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>> 20 seconds, joe. >> 20 seconds now. sam, thank you thank you for keeping it clean today. as far as everyone knows as far as people at home know. >> thank you, guys, for restraining me appreciate it. >> that was a restrain -- we'll all be back again tomorrow i have no idea what kind of show it is going to be tomorrow we can only guess. make sure you join us. "squawk on the street" is next ♪ ♪ yes, so crazy right now most incredibly your girl b ♪ ♪ your boy >> good wednesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." futures bounce, dow looks to open up 200 as hong kong withdraws that extradition bill. that prompted months of protests tons of corporate news from starbucks to wework, american eagle, alphabet. europe up about a percent. bunds selling off. ten year below 15. we get six fed speakers today
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and a beige book road map begins with hong kong, brexit and slew of international trade data stocks set for a sharp rebound at the open. >> recession risks with global economic uncertainty rising, we'll get the latest tea leafs from the fed later today. >> and the nfl blockbuster, the dallas cowboys agreeing to a mon monster contract extension with ezek yell ezekiel elliott. >> investor sentiment, a lift on news from across the pacific carrie lam making it official she has withdrawn the controversial extradition bill that sparked months of protests and impacted the economic climate. some protest leaderes say demonstrations will continue, though, unless other demands are met, including calls for greater democracy, some of the protesters are asking for a complete review of police behavior, no indication she's going to give them that as well. >> i would say finally to this, right? they have been protesting now for 13 weeks this was one of the core issues that set it off. they have other demands, but a
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lot of people in the market, the notes this morning are looking at it as china blinked and that's kind of the theme today. we're sort of walking off the edge, the british pound is higher as boris johnson, the in prime minister's enemies go after him against the no deal brexit and so that's providing a little relief to the market as well risk remains, including the fact that there could be a new election there likely and the fact that global manufacturing is slowing down. we're reeling and reading the notes that showed it under 50 and what that tells. is it an indication that something worse is coming for the economy or just a slowdown in manufacturing, which was also confirmed in the trade numbers today. >> in china, the market pmi highest since may. that's making the headlines, of course, over there there are a lot of people who predicted that the impact of the trade war would meet the u.s. with a delay and if you look at the two
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lines, essentially what has happened in terms of survey data we'll see how the hard data comes in the ism number first contraction in three years as sara said had gotten people's attention yesterday. >> new orders, particularly weak, 47.2 new export orders, 43.3 worse since the recession then we have new data on the trade deficit this is what happens when you start a trade war. you do see the trade gap decreasing 2.7% for the overall gap our imports fell and imports from china were down 2% in july from june. exports down 2.7%. that's the biggest trading partner, that's what happens when you put up walls like tariffs. >> right and canada our biggest trading partners, one of our largest always worth remembering, we talk about 300 billion in additional tariffs that number is coming down perhaps not as quickly as president trump would like, he does seem to also like the revenue that is coming into the treasury from those
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tariffs/taxes. >> and you get a tale two of economies in these numbers because our overall imports in the u.s. fell, but there was a much bigger decline in imports of capital goods, computers, machinery, and that sort of thing. the imports for the consumer goods rose, which speaks to the strength of the u.s. consumer which continues to be sort of this dichotomy in the market and the economy. >> hong kong is where the news is happening this morning. let's get to chris in hong kong with more on developments we got overnight surrounding that extradition bill chris? >> good morning. a major shift for carrie lam, the embattled leader of hong kong who just a short moment ago announced that she would withdraw this extremely controversial extradition bill that sparked this protest movement, already three months ago, that's driven hundreds of thousands, sometimes more than a million protesters out to the streets because they have been terrified that this would give
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china license to pluck them and take suspects of crimes to the mainland for trial where the judicial system is much more opaque however, it is really too soon to tell what impact this is going to have on the protest movement overall investors may be thinking this is the time to see the end of this protest movement, need to keep in mind that they have got other demands, they want carrie lam to resign, they want amnesty for the 1,000 protesters arrested over the past three months they want an independent investigation into alleged police brutality there is still a lot of factors floating around here when you go to the chat rooms, that these protesters use to organize, it is leaderless movement, they cast their vote anytime a major decision needs to be made. right now the consensus among the chat rooms is this is not enough it is all or nothing we want all of our demands or we're going to keep turning out to the streets this is too little too late.
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back to you guys. >> thank you very much, reporting from hong kong joining us now with a closer look at how well this impacts the markets, fidelity investment director of global macro yourian timer and jim lowell the characterization of the global hot spots cooling off a little bit today, and maybe better data coming from the likes of china as carl mentioned, how much is this good for in the markets >> the markets are caught in a cross current. look at the markets from a glass half full perspective. all the negative headlines, trade, global slowdown, everything, the market is only a few% below the highs all you need is for something to go right and the market could rocket to new highs. that's the optimist view the glass half empty, the market
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is in denial, like october of '07, where the market kept going up despite all the negative trends going around us my sense is somewhere in between the fed needs to step up here, feed the market if you will with what the market needs, which is more liquidity, lower rates. and it is likely to deliver on that in september. as you mentioned earlier, pmi is below 50 and, you know, and the yield curve is inverted. so the fed needs to act here and step up. and i think as long as the fed does that, and we see any kind of moderate improvement in some of the fundamentals, i think the market stays in decent shape but for now, you know, third quarter earnings season is coming up in about a month and we're probably going to see a few more downgrades before earnings season starts so at this point, i don't think the market is going to be able to get out of it, late cycle purgatory if you will.
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>> it is kind of the debate on the fed, jim what he characterized, he said the market needs a rate cut. yield curve is inverted. the market is craving more liquidity. that's the bullard view versus the roesengren view where do you fall? >> i fall in the latter camp, i don't think the fed needed to cut rates when they did. i don't think the fundamentals would drive them there yet i think our fed may be clipping more towards trying to be proactive rather than reactive i think that's dangerous, they need to remain data dependent. i think it is more reminiscent of 1999. the diververgence between larged small cap performance, growth and value stocks, between the international markets and u.s. is about as wide as i think it has been since then. and back then, don't forget, as we went into a fairly mild recession, what we saw was the large cap market sell-off dramatically and what is
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currently overlooked, small cap value names came to the -- delivered positive returns i think the investors need to definitely make sure that their income needs are being met, investment goals are well aligned, the portfolios aren't chasing this relentless momentum into large cap growth stocks there are better values to be had. and they will serve you better when this market does in fact take a downturn. >> you mentioned income, both utilities and real estate sectors in the s&p closed at record highs yesterday is that still the place to go despite the kind of valuations >> in a well diversified portfolio, they can play a role. you need to be very selective. we certainly think short-term bonds, cash, we know that some investors are reaching out to gold, we don't view gold as an investment, more a tactical trading opportunity. but we think the best investment you can make in gold is that buy and put it around the neck of someone you love
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in terms of the overall market place, we think that this is a time where active management comes to the fore. we definitely think that just buying whole markets in terms of index funds is a risk mistake that we don't want our clients or any investor to make. >> what is your strategy here for navigating through this choppy market? >> well, as jim mentioned here, diversified portfolio remains paramount. you take a simple 60/40 portfolio, and over the past couple of years since the s&p made its initial valuation peak in january of 2018, that simple 60/40 portfolio delivered all the upside of the s&p, but only half the downside. and so to me, a 60/40 or some variation there of remains a fairly bullard proof strategy
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because if things get better, the s&p or the stock side of the portfolio will deliver and if they don't, the bond side will deliver and so that's been a very winning strategy. and i do think that combination of some of the bond proxies or stocks that have quality and dividends combined with maybe some of the secular growers will continue to be a good sort of barbell strategy and, you know, as downtrodden as em is, especially with all of the trade tensions, em, i think, looks interesting here, just from a contrarian point of view. and if the fed does ease more, which i do think is likely, that will put some -- that will take some of the pressure off of the u.s. dollar and that will allow the dollar to weaken a bit and bring em to life as well that would be my recommendation. >> it did happen the last time the fed cut. thank you very much. jim lowell, good to see you as
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well >> getting some breaking news this morning, involving google's youtube business ylan mui has the details good morning. >> reporter: good morning, guys. google will be paying regulators $170 million to settle accusations that youtube repeatedly violated the law that protects the privacy of children online now, under this agreement, google will pay $136 million to the ftc and $34 million to the new york state attorney general's office in addition, youtube must set up a system for content creators to designate their videos as designed for kids. the ftc said this is the first time any platform has been required to do that. and it will conduct sweeps of youtube in order to ensure compliance now, the law does ban sites from tracking kids and then targeting them with behavioral advertisin without the explicit consent of their parents. in the complaint, they said hasbro and mattel were some of
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the chief offenders on youtube's platform in a statement, ftc chairman joseph simon said the agreement will force youtube to change the business model and that, quote, there is no excuse for youtube's violations of the law. however, the two democratic commissioner at the ftc have dissented from this agreement, they voted against it. they said the dollar amount was too low, should have been in the billions, not the millions but it doesn't go far enough in changing youtube's business practices and there is no good way for the ftc to ensure that google is indeed complying with the law. still, guys, the ftc did note this $170 million penalty against google is the largest it has ever collected under this privacy law. back to you. >> interesting google faces so many different investigations, you got an antitrust probe from a lot of state ags, not clear how many, and it may be unveiled fairly soon you got the senate holding a subcommittee hearing on the
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24th, examining concerns late to acquisitions of nascent digital competitors. it goes on and on. the irish government is examining whether or not they fed personal data toed aer ha e advertisers. it is not going to end for this company anytime soon in terms of, a, the investigations and perhaps the fines that follow. >> reporter: that's right. this is really happening on a number of fronts across a number of issues involving google i think it was also interesting that in her dissent democratic commissioner slaughter said that she hopes that state ags will continue to fight on this particular issue, children's privacy, calling on the state ags to perhaps file their own complaints, launch their own investigations into google over this issue and perhaps receive an even bigger fine. there is widespread concern among consumer advocates that this fine basically amounts to a slap on the wrist for youtube and for google, considering the amount of advertising revenue
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that kids content does bring in. one of most popular sites on the web for kids does the punishment match the crime in this case that's hotly debated but now we know what the structure of the settlement actually is. >> we'll look for some details later this morning, thank you for helping us break that. ylan mui in washington when we,bac come back, we'l talk football with jerry jones at post nine as his team agrees to that reported $90 million contract extension for star running back ezekiel elliott the highest paid rb in the league take another look at the premarket, average move for the dow, 239 points. and that's much like what we'll get at the open when we're back in a minute. introducing the first of its kind lexus ux and ux f sport. also available in hybrid all wheel drive. lease the 2019 ux 200 for $329 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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we'll get some relief for stocks ahead of the open what about bonds let's head to the bond pits. rick santelli in chicago rick >> good morning. if you look at a two day of 10s, we moved up a bit. consider this, first of all, yesterday we settle at 146, a fresh low yield close going back to the summer of 2016, a little over three years and the other key issue is the next chart this is a two-day of bunds
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even though we're up three basis points from that new low close for the cycle, bunds are up five basis points from the minus 72 low close. they settled around minus 70 they're up five basis points they did have pmis improve i think that's part of it. but it is very interesting to see some buoyancy in the eurozone rates, especially with the notion that on september 12th, we're promised at least the whisper promise is for mario draghi that he's going big of course, this comes before he turns over the reins to christine lagarde, which in many respects brings more politics into the central banking situation in europe between the countries that are involved in that group in the eu and, of course, brussels tens minus twos, a spread with more attention in the last couple of months, maybe than it should that will be left not future to write the history on whether
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that becomes a sentinel signal or not it is worth noting we have seen some steepening. one week chart of tens to twos we're flirting with three basis points at this point some of the word levels were down minus five, minus six intraday finally, the dollar index, here we sit, around $99 9860 the high back to may of 2017 was right around 98 1/2. even though today is a big giveback, a third of a cent at this point, it is still holding what was other than last week the highs going back almost two plus years carl, back to you. >> all right, rick, thank you very much. rick santelli. new york fed president john williams speaking in new york on a day where we're going to get a ton of fed speak steve liesman is watching that >> that thanks very much he is prepared to, quote, act as appropriate. they're phrasing it, to support
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growth of the economy, job growth, inflation coming in at the fed's goal of 2% he said the economy is in a favorable place, talking with the dilemma that the fed has been concerned about risks and uncertainty in the economy among those risks, global growth, trade uncertainty, brexit, hong kong, argentina, debt crisis, all of them the economy's momentum is already somewhat less robust pause of a downgrade to gdp and the downgrade of the level of employment by 500,000. low inflation, he says, repeating some of the -- is the problem of the era the number one goal is keeping the expansion on track but he says they must maintain a dependent -- data dependent approach we had this before, everybody agrees the economic data not too bad. however, all the risks out there and where the fed guys differ is in what they want to do about it bullard talked about cutting 50, rosengren yesterday from boston talked about holding the line.
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williams kind of in the middle, but seems maybe more inclined to also cut and just so you know for your information there, we got 100% chance of september cut. but a 14% chance by one measure and 7% chance by another of a 50 basis point cut. that still seems to be a very minority stance that is out there in the market, carl. >> steve, not just rosengren, bullard, not just williams now but this op-ed doubling down on the fed to not enable the president's trade tariffs. >> that's out there too. i think the fed is -- i guess cringing is probably a good word they don't really want to be in this political fight you know, it is funny, carl, if the fed wanted to say something politically, they might have said it. instead, what they did is come out with a strong statement, kind of disavowing dudley when it first happened. so it is pretty interesting that that's going on.
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you do not hear the fed guys saying that, except to say, look, this is a very bad card that we have been dealt that we're going to deal with, with the question being that count on the trade war to go on and to cut preemptively for the potential of impact on the economy or do they wait until those impacts show up. we haven't heard a lot about how yesterday's ism manufacturing decline is affecting their thinking, but i think it has to be working in there, the idea you have the first decline in three years, and that the export numbers really fell through the floor. i don't know if you saw this, we talked about them yesterday, the lowest export index in the ism since the financial crisis, which is a number and a record you do not want to aspire to. >> yeah. we're glad we have you with us, steve, to make sense of it all, especially days like today steve liesman, we'll see you in a bit. when we come back, stay tuned for our interview with dallas cowboys owner jerry jones here at post nine to discuss the
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business of football, the extension for ezekiel and the nfl's 100th season, take another look at the premarket as futures are up on this hong kong withdrawal of the extradition bill we're back in a minute
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looking at what some are calling a humanitarian crisis in the bahamas today. in terms of corporate news, starbucks, goldman conference, guiding 2020 eps quote below the ongoing growth model of 10% plus they're not going to give us official guidance until october 30th you have to believe, david, this reflects at least some pairing of expectations in china we'll see. >> that's the way it is being taken by the market. they are at a conference this morning as you said. they did come in, not with their official guidance, but with a number to your point that is below what is typically promised by the company initially the sell-off was actually more. we'll see how the stock performs once we get the open but when it was met, it was met with some selling prior, of course, to the open. the volume not that low. >> maybe we should mention that the stock is up 80% in the last 12 months. a moon shot really so far this year delivering higher same store sales numbers under kevin
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johnson. largely it has been a story of exceeding expectations, right, for the year. >> very well received given the numbers they put up in terms of comp store sales and growth in china as well, which there had been some fear about >> retailers in focus, got a number of results, american eagle, 39 cents beats 32 comps a little disappointing up two. looking for up three but they do see the current quarter below estimates, 47 to 49 street at 53 that stock is going to get hit at the open as well. >> the ceo and the release blamed a delayed back to school season, overall american eagle has also been one of the strongest retail performers at least if you look at the comps did you see the numbers for aeri, the lingerie more friendly to today's consumer kind of bras and underwear, comping 16% the overall comp at 2%, less
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than expected. and the stock is coming off on a -- those missed expectations what are you watching? the defensive sectors will be the biggest thing to watch that led the charge yesterday, down day, we'll see if we get more of a cyclical folk us that's who is beat up in august. that's who the bulls are looking to for confirmation, the transports for instance, which underperformed yesterday, the russell which had been sort of a serial underperformer in august, to see whether there is some sort of light at the end of the tunnel to the volatility that we saw in august and the, what, 200 plus point moves that we have seen every single day in the dow over the last few weeks. >> yeah. you know when is going to surprise to the upside is michaels, another retailer, which beats by a nickel at 19, revenue also ahead expectations for comps, a drop of one managed to eek out .3. with that michaels is going to open up better than 20%.
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just gives you a sense of how dampened expectations have been for retailers with at least some exposure to china. let's get the opening bell here, the s&p 500 at the cnbc real time exchange. big board, comp stock resources. and you see dallas cowboys owner jerry jones, talking to him in a minute, at the nasdaq, investment fund sutter rock capital. keep an eye on the corporate stories we covered so far. also, watch tesla, porsche is out with what some are dubbing the tesla killer called the take hand $90,000. four door sedan. they reports suggest it will be profitable at launch and they have 30,000 deposits so far. i think zero to 62 in less than three seconds. we'll see how much this does to get volkswagen's hopes of becoming the largest ev seller in the world. >> looking at the opening gate
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here, we have every sector in the s&p 500 higher so it is one of those continued days where i remember mike santoli last week did a chart about how everything is moving in unison in lockstep. you have all of them higher today. and we have seen this pattern, all lower, all higher, macro news is dominating, you mentioned hong kong, you mentioned the sort of fed speak in the air i think after that ism number, especially what we saw in the bond market, which was steepening of the yield curve on hopes that the fed was going to be pushed into more stimulus, a research note at renaissance macro saying they should cut 50 basis points, market is not expecting it, let them surprise the market, we have more ammunition to do so. we have the lower manufacturing numbers and inflation is barely budging and global slowdown story is still there. >> i don't know. financial conditions, i mean, have they gotten that tight? a few points from all time highs in the markets with the big week for corporate debt issuance and
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spreads. we had a big deal out of disney in many parts, deere, i think apple comes this week as well. if you were truly seeing recessionary indicators -- >> you see it in the credit market that's the counterargument >> apple has been particularly good through the years timing the market. i can remember previous lows where they issued enormous amounts of debt. they are returning a good amount of cash to shareholders as we know through buybacks that continue as well it is interesting to see their treasurer, whoever it is, good feel for the debt markets in terms of getting the paper out there at the right time. >> every dow member is higher. want to quickly check on walmart and kroger, adjusting their gun policies in the wake of the mass shootings that we have seen. kroger following walmart, saying asking its customers not to have weapons, basically, in the store to carry weapons
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walmart taking it a step further, kroger had already done this last year, stopping ammunition sales for assault style rifles and handguns. two deadly shootings at its stores in last month have prompted some action here. kroger trading up a percent. people are still continuing, especially for walmart who says the moves will reduce its market share of ammunition to about 6 to 9% down from 20% currently. there is the kroger statement, asking customers to no longer openly carry firearms into our stores other than authorize law enforcement officers we're joining those encouraging our elected officials to pass laws that will strengthen background checks and remove weapons from those who have been found to pose a risk to violence companies are stepping it up. >> very interesting. interesting time to see sort of companies making choices in terms of what they think are best serving their stake holders, which is a word i think we're going to hear more often mcmillan saying there were a lot
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of people walking into test the open carry laws and that was concerning to some customers at walmart when they made the decision to ask people to refrain from doing so. >> it is a delicate balance. i think it is why we have seen walmart act on this issue. they have taken steps before, but clearly this is going to be seen as one of the bigger ones >> i want to get to -- i want to mention tyson foods also down -- not too much they did lower -- they lowered the guidance i think what they called short-term challenges. >> one time issues, like, i don't know, commoditiy ies derivatives trading and that sort of thing coming out yesterday after the bell they didn't really say anything long-term about demapndemand, a for me >> look at the stock, it has been a very, very strong performer. >> one name not as strong a performer as many had
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anticipated, a deal announced a month ago, i wasn't here to cover it at the time, important one for pfizer and mylan, the transaction somewhat complex, that combined the off patent branded and generic established medicines business called upjohn, remember the old upjohn at pfizer, with mylan, reverse morris trust so the effect it would be mylan shareholders would own 47%, and pfizer 53% pfizer shareholders know what happened there the stock declined rather dramatically in fact since that deal was announced. it is low multiple business, exiting what is higher multiple, so it didn't have that effect of creating value in the sense of you're moving out a lower multiple business. the hope, of course, is that the
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combination itself will set both pfizer's business and mylan's business on a new course the reason i mention it this morning is because mylan is now going to become more aggressive in terms of communicating the benefits they see from the deal that they feel perhaps in this first month of trading since it was announced had been missed by their investor base. that is being led by its executive chairman robert cory, a man who built mylan over the last 17 or so years, as well, in terms of starting to address shareholders about what they feel are some of the perhaps things that are being misinterpreted by the market what are they going to be pushing? the idea that the combination itself is really a new company for a new age. and, in fact, is not necessarily a generic competitor has only 25% of its overall sales in the u.s. and of that only 15% is actually in the generics market. worldwide sales, and in china, they're talking about having the scale they really need there to compete as well, given the combination of the two
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businesses they assumed an 8 multiple going in, that's how they negotiated the transaction, got the exchange ratio or the 43/57 split. that seems to be something of a frustration at this point. these are early days, of course. got to go about creating a shareholder base for the new company. it is worth noting that at the present time you're talking about mylan trading at about 6, 6.4 or so times 2020 estimated ebitda based on total enterprise value versus the likes of teva, a debilitating company, trading at a higher multiple or sun or perego or hickma the idea is let's try to explain to investors why this multiple is in our opinion depressed. what is most interesting is the idea that they're moving from the netherlands. remember, the shadow of mr.
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cory's resistance to teva's potential takeover of mylan a number of years ago continues to hang over the stock price and perhaps over his own reputation. that and a number of other things and -- but perhaps no longer deserved we'll see. they are now talking about shareholders and being a shareholder focused company, given that they are now reincorporating with new directors, in delaware, new governance, new ceo, pfizer's gentleman coming over to do that but worth noting, mylan shares up a little bit this morning as they sort of try to explain the story. we'll have a lot more on it, perhaps one day more cory join us carl, over to you. >> all right, david, thanks. to seema mody. >> good morning, carl. the u.s. market on track to erase yesterday's losses in response to some pretty good global data and that news that the extradition bill in hong kong will be withdrawn the dow leaders, coke, pfizer,
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united tech, and goldman sachs all the names traded lower yesterday and our high with the exception of pfizer down half a percent. look at the hang seng, the hong kong stock market, back in positive territory for the year. but still down about 8% from its june high. the dollar weaker now, which is helping oil move to the upside let's get to the data, august pmi from around the world have come in relatively better than expected, with the exception of the uk and the hong kong the average manufacturing pmi reading rose 0.2 points. italy, france, germany, spain and the eurozone as a whole beating and improving versus july coming off a low base, china services improved. so that's the story. overseas, specific earnings names to watch today, arts and crafts store operator michaels beating estimates by 5 cents on the bottom line, a jump in comp sales and shares up 20%. its market cap still below $1 billion. also keeping a close eye on
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shares of box, starboard, value disclosing a 7.5% stake in the cloud service provider calling shares under valued, shares of box down 35% in the past one year. back to you. >> seema, thank you. when we come back, dallas cowboys owner jerry jones will join us here at post nine and interview you do not want to miss, given the news about ezekiel elliott today. dow futures suggested a slightly bigger open. we're up 200 points. back in a moment - did you know that americans that bought gold in 2005
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the nfl's 100th season set to kick off in just one day. who better it talk about that than nfl hall of famer dallas cowboys owner jerry jones, who is with us here at post nine, after ringing the opening bell at the nyse. thank you for coming by. great to see you. >> well, it is great to be here on the floor of the stock exchange i feel like i'm having breakfast with george washington and right down the street from many of the great names of our history. >> we were talking off camera, today is the day with news with
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your two loves, which is football, and exploration and production let's do what comp stocks is buying here. >> first of all, the way i bought the cowboys was my career and the money that i earned from being involved in oil and gas exploration. particularly gas and comp stock has one of the best positions of leases relative to the cheapest place i would say in the world to get gas to the market. i'm a big believer in what natural gas is and i've always believed that the time to get involved is when things are low that's the way i bought the cowboys. cowboys were losing a million a month. and i bought 15% of the cowboys from the fdic. a lot of people don't realize that before that, i had had gone in the oil and gas business when it was low and geologists were
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going to work selling shoes. i've always been a little contrarian in my approach to things so this is the time to do it in the natural gas business and i've spent roughly a billion and a half dollars over the last probably 36 months investing in oil and gas. >> what do you think it is going to take to turn sentiment around on exploration and production? >> i want to -- through comp stock, i would say look at what we have been doing, look at what i've been doing. i understand some frustration with investors that's not what's been happening to me. i've taken millions of dollars and invested it since 2017 and i've turned that into two and three times my money and we're doing the same thing with comp stock and they have done a great job with covey park and acquiring a lot of leases. these leases are right in the pathway to the great markets of the gulf as far as natural gas
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is concerned and so that -- whether it is a ball team, or whether it is a piece of land in north dallas in this particular case, natural gas, that gets my attention. >> we want to make it clear, you put a lot of money in here over a billion at this -- >> i have. as far as over the last 40 months, i invested over a billion and a half in gas, gas prospects, drilling, producing wells, and continuing that kind of aggressiveness, in my mind this is the time to do it. it is very important that you keep the cash, keep up with the drilling or -- >> how much is dependent on the price of the actual commodity starting to trend upwards, even if we stay where we are, you believe -- >> any commodity, any commodity has market sensitivity on the other hand, natural gas for energy is our cleanest fuel, plus we have opened up since
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2016, we have opened up the markets of the world to natural gas. that's why i'm here. someone asked me are you looking at the waiver wire so we can make sure we have our roster put together yeah, and at the same time, i'm looking out the other corner of my oil to find a good place to drill oil. >> speaking of rosters, what is signing zeek mean? what does this extension mean for the team, for the season, for getting past the division, all of that? >> i just turned my pockets out upstairs it means i'm $100 million lighter as of this morning but, seriously, zeke has been arguably our best player, i'm not trying to be unfair to anybody else, but he's an incremental part to our success. we're glad to get him booked in. glad to have him on the team he plays a position that has some pretty interesting dynamics to it. because running backs are short
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lived. although we had what i considered to be one of the top five greatest ones in emmitt smith. and emmitt ran the ball for 13 years. so you don't have to have a four or five-year career to be a running back on the other hand, zeke allows us to create such problems for the defense that then we can open it up to our passing, open it up for dak prescott, have to have guys on defense to get those guys the ball. >> can we say that zeke is better than emmitt ever was? >> no, i don't want to say that. zeke wouldn't want me to say that but i will say this, they both have a lion heart. and believe it or not, bill parcells used to give lectures on just how lion hearted a running back has to be their continually taking the pounding they continually have to gather it up and go some more who could forget against the new york giants emmitt smith running
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with a knock down shoulder to win that game when we had to win it, to go to the playoffs, that ultimately led us to a super bowl zeke has a big heart now, he's got a thick pocketbook too. >> this is the firstnine figur contract for running back. >> and -- >> what do you say to those who tell you you're overpaying. >> first of all, i would say that anybody whether you're talking about that kind of money, we're all overpaid. if you really wanted to look at it that way. for what he has done, how he's worked, how he's utilized his skills, then he's in the marketplace of where we are and pro sports and pro football. >> what do you think it will take to get a streaming nfl deal for games that are ten-pole games, like sunday night on youtube, amazon, something -- beyond what we have seen already so far >> i think that we're in such a
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world of change, if you will, on how we present our games you know, when i first got involved in the nfl, content to me was what is in a popcorn box? it was popcorn the word content, what is that well, content, is as it turns out, is about what goes on that television you know, the nfl's interest culminates in the fourth quarter of the year. no other sport has its hot time. that's christmas and thanksgiving that's when you want those decision makers in front of that tv set then we have natural breaks. they're called huddles they're called stoppages they are not intrusive, so that we can put many messages up there at the same time then more importantly than anything, the nfl, and i'm talking about content, on or off the feed, in season or out, there is a soap opera going on every day.
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it's constantly on the forefront of attention and interest. >> and those contracts have greatly added to the value of your franchise and to the value overall of the nfl i'm curious how you view the next one coming up cbs is a couple of years away. do you think there is going to be a lot of competition from players we haven't typically seen in terms of securing those rights >> well, i think this. that we have a history of a collective bargained agreement that means the players and the clubs agree on how much dollars, what percentage of dollars are going to be there. for almost the last ten weeks, about every monday or tuesday i have been in chicago or parts nearby negotiating with the players association about our future labor agreement we all know it would be better to get something done now than two years from now when you could possibly have work stoppages because this would allow us to have a great
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platform of continuity, an agreement for years that we can go to the networks and address this streaming address what our game is going to look like on that tube. that's why we're doing it. that's why the players are doing it we're all working hard to get a deal done. >> still nfl ratings have been a little soft in recent seasons. i mean, do you think that you can grow broadcast television ratings in the u.s.? >> it's such a misnomer that our ratings are soft they are the hardest thing there is, a in all of television view. in general, all television has depreciated. the viewership if you will, it has gone to the handheld, it's been to other areas. of course, the nfl wants to be a very substantive part of the alternatives to the traditional television screen. but on the other hand, a funny
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thing happened the more the percentage of fans or the percentage of viewers watch all programming, the more valuable the nfl has gotten because we are where you can get the guaranteed highest percentage of the decision makers in this country so just the opposite the idea of where we are with our viewership is so much stronger than when i got in the nfl in 1989 or when fox came in in the early '90s. we're really in a very strong position and time. >> do you think we're past the kneeling controversiy and would you have done anything differentably looking back >> i think we all recognize the social issues. i would have never dreamed when i got involved with the cowboys that i would be dressing bullying or addressing the social issues. but then i stop and think about
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it if we are going to get up and ask everybody to look at us, when you turn away, wait, wait, get back over here, look at us if we are going to ask this country to look at us, then along with that comes the responsibility when we get it done, we have all those eyeballs, when the country says help us out a little bit on social issues, use those platforms to help us as a society. so i have a different view, let's say, than i had 20, 30 years ago when i first got involved where i think that we are is that we are evolving in our understanding. we have always, the cowboys are where we are everybody knows where we stand but, on the other hand, what i want to be sure that everybody understand is how interested we are in helping that first responder be safe. how interested we are when we have unjust, if you will, unjust
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circumstances that really are unfortunate. we want to have the nfl be a part of making sure that we're doing everything we can to help those areas. now, if you could solve all these problems, you'd be god you can't do that. but what you can do is try we have a lot of visibility. we have huge numbers of fans we want to use all of that to help these social issues where we can. >> there are also health issues. andrew luck retired last week at 29 he cited pain and injury how worried are you that people start walking away because of health concerns? >> i just want to be sure that we talk about the whole story. i had a long career through college. i played for five years in college. so i am very aware of the kinds of health issues that after you
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have done that, then when you are 77, which i am, how you feel how you walk how you think. one of the most concussed players that have ever put on a helmet in the nfl is roger staubach he is my age together we are building one of the greatest real estate developments right now you can have my point is there are a lot of examples where those lives that played this game have actually, as they have gotten older and older and older, there are a lot of examples of people who didn't play tgame, men and women, who have limitations just the balanced story. the facts are, as far as health is concerned, nfl football players are the healthiest group on the planet. nfl football players we are talking cardio. we're talking they air condition makes sense. they have kept themselves in competitive condition all that time but as a group, the healthiest
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group on the planet. >> jerry, please come back congratulations. stocks responded to some of our comments as well. >> thanks, guys. well, let's ring the bell and buy some. >> jerry jones, here at post 9 when we come back we will continue to watch the market deu dow's up 153. we'll check in with rmfoer fed chair greenspan when "squawk on the street" comes back
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♪ that good wednesday morning. welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with sara eisen and david faber. markets responding to some relief regarding hong kong as they withdraw this extradition bill the dow gains 167. >> our roadmap for the hour, hong kong, brexit, international trade data, stocks rebounding. we will break down what's behind today's rally. >> former fed chair alan greenspan will give us his thoughts on the market volatility and fed. and porsche announcing the first fully electric vehicle
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we will have the details next. stocks rallying with carrie lam announcing withdrawal of a controversial extradition bill that led to months of protests and impacted the economic climate there. some protest leaders say demonstrations will continue unless other demands are met, including calls for greater democracy. the reaction was very strongly positive for the henning ang se hong kong stock market, carrying into overseas. i guess the hope is between the capitulation from hong kong, ie china on the extradition bill which set off these protests 13 weeks ago along with back to school, things will clear down the market was eying the sayings, situation, a negative between the u.s. and china and the global economic slowdown story what's it going to mean for the u.s. and the u.s. economic data? the sensitive manufacturing sector, we saw the first contraction yesterday. next up we'll look for the
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services number on thursday and see if it's impacting the bigger part of the economy. in other words, that uncertainty about trade. we saw it in trade data today in terms of lower imports of capital machinery and lower exports to places like china. >> we know what's happened to consumer sentiment morgan stanley's point this week is all that is standing between us and a recession is a weaker consumer if they belie what we have seen out of u michigan and conference board, we will see retail sales have been holding in there we know that. >> seems to be very few signs of a weak consumer. is there anything you can point to >> mixed signals lately. we have to watch the numbers because we have seen a dip we can also see that very sensitive to the stock market and we saw august as a very turbulent month. so we'll look for that i think the other thing standing between us and a potential recession would be stimulus, which is coming from all sides
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of the world right now the ecb expected to do more. boj members talking about preemptive action. fed membetalking about surprisie market with a cut. how much can monetary policy step in to prevent a slowdown on trade? i don't think anyone, including federal chair jay powell, knows. >> the big q for investors this month is going to be action from global central banks, including the fed's interest rate decision of course, not the only game in town around the world. take a look at some of the others joining us is the long-time former fed chair alan greenspan. alan, good morning. >> thank you pleasure to be back. >> where should we start i guess since we are in the month of another fed meeting and getting a ton of speakers today, maybe you can throw your two cents in and tell us what you think the fed should do. >> i tell the fed in private what i think they ought to do,
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and that's the last i hear of it >> what about this notion of the economy weakening potentially recession risks picking up how do you see the u.s. outlook for the rest of the year >> strangely enough, it's going to depend in large part on the stock market because we underestimate the wealth effect on the economy in this type of volatile stock market moves, it has an impact which i don't think we've fully understood nor measure correctly. overall, the economy seems to be sagging. longer term, of course, i have made the point that with the entitlement surge as we age in the population, we're draining
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gross domestic savings from the economy dollar for dollar, the data show, and that implies that it's undercutting capital investment from which is heavily financed by domestic savings the problem at this stage is that it's not clear where the markets are going, but let's not rule out the fact that they are in and of themselves critical factors. eco mcrick analysis says a 10% rise in the s&p 500 has a 1% effect on overall gdp. that is not a small number >> no, it's not. what about the trade war and the tariffs and the fact that we are starting to see it more prominently feature in ism
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weakness and manufacturing weakness in this country how much do you think that is slowing the global economy and how much do you think it's a headwind for the u.s.? >> well, i think it's, first of all, it's a major global issue i don't think this thing is caving in, so to speak, but that it's eroding and it's weak i think is unquestionable. i think it's important to recognize that if we get major stock market adjustments, we are going to feel it in the economy with a very short lag. >> so, i mean, do you think the prospect of -- i mean, i saw a headline that you were talking about the idea of negative interest rates potential wily happening in this country. do you think that's something possible if so, what would it signify >> well, first of all, what it signifies is really that the
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world population is aging and that people are recognizing that they are dying off at a much later date than they originally contemplated when they started to save. as a result of that, there has been an endeavor to pick up fairly quickly -- the u.s. treasury 30-year yield is terrifically useful, i would say, offset to the other things that are going on in the market. it's a real-time asset and the reason, one of the reasons the gold price is rising as fast as it is, you know, $1,500, that's telling us essentially that people are looking for hard -- basically
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resources which they know are going to have a value 20 years from now or 30 years from now as they age and they want to make sure that they have the resources to keep themselves in place. that that is a clearly fundamental force that's driving this, but we don't know how far it will go >> how far, chairman greenspan, do you think it could go to sara's question and others have pointed this out as well given negative rates around the globe on 16 trillion in assets. do you think it could visit our shores as well >> well, it's hardly likely that it's been -- for example, take a look at japan. you can see quite visually as the population goes down you see it pretty much throughout the world it's just a matter of time before it's more in the united
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states and i think the issue sheer is watch the 30-year u.s. treasury yield. that's going to tell you what's happening. >> although you said in recent days that it's just another number, doesn't necessarily mean it's something symbolic other than it's below zero can you expand on that >> yeah. in other words, basically, we are so used to the fact that we don't have negative interest rates, but if you get a significant change in the attitude of the population, they can take -- they look for coupons. as a result of that, there is a tendency to disregard the fact that that has an effect on the net interest rate that they receive. the buyer is a 30-year treasurys now looking for that 30-year
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guarantee, they are paying for it upfront other parts of the valuation process. >> chairman greenspan, i would like to come back for a second to this idea that you introduced of the wealth effect of the stock market and how important it is in terms of gaging where rates should be. do you think the fed is appropriately sort of measuring the volatility of the market and/or the wealth effect or lack thereof at this point in its deliberations about future policy >> i would assume so they know what's going on much better than the rest of the world, frankly so i find it very difficult to believe that they are not on this with some degree of analysis. >> what do you mean they know what's going better than the rest of the world? >> sorry try that again >> what do you mean they know what's going on better than
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everybody else that is a question right now about who knows best for the fed. is it the president who is calling for easing is it the market that is pricing in more aggressive easing? is it the fed itself >> it's the fed itself let me say this. once a fed governor gets appointed by the president of the united states, whomever that may be, and then gets essentially voted positively by the senate, it is very difficult short of major malfeasance to get that person out of that office there has never been anybody in the history riff of t the history of the fed ho has basically been essentially taken out of office for malfeasance.
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i don't think there ever will be >> so you think the chances of the president somehow replacing fed chair powell are nil >> yes. >> i assume you have read dudley's op-ed from a week or two ago. he has another one out today he reiterates the fed should not enable the white house's trade tariff policy. is he over his skis? could you imagine yourself ever riding something like that >> sorry who are you referring to >> former new york fed president bill dudley. >> well, no, he is a very good economist. you have to understand that people have differing views within the fed but what makes the fed a very effective organization is it comes together, it has an
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extraordinary sense of where the economy is going having been there for almost 20 years, it doesn't matter who is chairman it doesn't matter who is in particular positions but the overall effect of the research operations within the federal reserve is nothing short of impressive. >> chairman greenspan, do you think central banks, especially those in europe and japan right now, have the ammunition and the tools to fight another slowdown and potential recession? >> think they are going to have difficulties largely because i think equity prices are going to adjust more than we have had over the past. remember, we have had, in this -- we have had a very sharp change in the attitude towards
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the 30-year treasury the 30-year treasury we thought was going to stay up in the 3% yield area, and it's come down quite unexpectedly because there has been a change in the attitude, the time preference, so to speak, of the population towards seeing that they are going to live longer lives and they are going to need to finance those longer lives well in advance, like now >> sounds like you are saying the idea of ultra long paper, which has been floated in the past couple of weeks, could actually happen? >> sorry ultra what >> ultra long paper. 5100-year-old debt. >> no, i never heard of it but this is going in a direction. in fact, if i thought about it,
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i would say it's inevitable that one of those -- someplace in the marketplace, which will try to hedge on something that's extended beyond what we see now. t it sounds awfully bizarre, but so did the 30-year treasury under 3% >> and finally, chairman greenspan, come back to equity markets, which you mentioned a number of times, are you concerned? are you forecasting in some way some sort of a correction in equity markets >> well, remember that we are now in a period where, if you were a -- you are probably getting a little nervous the way the market is behaving these markets are now so sophisticated that it's -- other than the general view that there is a bias towards always being
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invested in common stock or other forms of equity, i won't get into the reasons, but it's a well known phenomenon. i think aside interest that, it's an economic or financial policy and i find it very difficult to get -- to pick something out of the market that it does not already know >> a lot of people, chairman greenspan, would take issue with your assertion that the fed knows best considering, you know, the fed missed the housing market crisis. i mean, the fed has missed recessions in various periods of time and even this federal reserve chairman has really pivoted to easing in a quick way following the markets. so how would you respond to some of that criticism? >> i would basically say
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remember that there is nobody who calls the market correctly all the time but having watched the way the fed functions, of course i said almost 20 years, as an organization, it's the best i have ever seen and i have been around for quite a long while >> this we know. dr. greenspan, good to see you alan greenspan joining us to talk about the markets and the fed. see you next time. interesting to get a sense of where his radar is truly focused. the 30-year, change in sentiment there. and stock prices as you said, glowing things to say about this tick fed. >> a strong defense there of the fed's independence, of its credibility, which is important at a time right now where people are saying that the fed is politicized. even bill dudley, hayes clarification of his controversial op-ed today said there will be questions at the september meeting if they cut rates about whether they are
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trying to ac wquiesce to a president or the market >> how many years have we passed national exuberance? 23 years. >> it's interesting the market will determine how we head into recession or how the economy does because there is a clear economic link in how the stock market does -- >> yeah, interesting how often he came back to that that's why i mentioned rational exuberance a little early. when we return, watch out tesla. porsche announcing its first fully electric car the details next as we head to break the top performing stocks on the dow quk t see wleading the way. "sawonhetrt"ill be right back ntelligence gives you the power to see every corner of your growing business. from finding out what's selling best... to managing your fleet...
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porsche unveiling the first fully electric car, the taycan phil lebeau with a special guest. >> as back drops go for a new car reveal, doesn't get much better than this with niagara falls behind me. this is the eye candy today. this is the new porsche taycan goes on sale later this year that's when deliveries begin a member of the porsche board of directors. first off with the vehicle, why do you believe this is right time for an all-electric porsche? >> i think we work very, very hard, four years of development with a lot of complex issues
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i believe even more complex as we initially expected because main challenge was not just to make an ev, another ev, but to make out of this car a true porsche. able to transfer the soul of a 911, a 718, a cayenne, into this car. we are very proud. >> i had a chance for a test ride at your facility in atlanta. 0 to 60 in 2.6 seconds the handling, the feeling, the acceleration of a porsche. some people look at the price tag that you announced this morning. $150,000 that's the base model of this. they will say, wow, that's pretty rich. is there demand at that price point? >> it's a good value. >> a good value at $150,000? >> we are starting top down. we are showing the top models. we will bring more affordable models in the future we wanted to show what we can
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do that sustainability doesn't mean sacrifice. this car has a typical porsche performance. we can have excacceleration we can have the power output in a constant wait. we wanted the driving dynamics driving with all of the features you know from the 911. the rear axis steering and all that. >> how much did you benchmark tesla and the model s or any of the tesla models in saying we know that they are successful when it comes to electric vehicles we have to make here is that we have at least what they have and then snom. >> frankly, we are getting this question very often. here in this case we really focused on our sales we have clear goals. this was just bring all the tradition into the future. all the racing spiare it's, the racing in le mans in this car. when you drive it, you can say i
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feel it, i smell it. it drives like a porsche tesla i think deserves a lot of respect. they have created a lot of attention on the ev market i think the ev market is getting to a turning point for us it was more important to concentrate on what we wanted to achieve and make it a real high-performance sports car. >> do you expect most of your buyers to be previous porsche owners or take away some tesla owners >> we are very excited about the first -- without insuring the car, we reduced to 20,000 people worldwide being interested in the top models i think it will continue as soon as we have revealed this car and interestingly, we have seen that 50% of this interest are people not known at the porsche brand. >> do you know how many are tesla owners >> i don't know. we will see. we welcome them. >> from your perspective, last question here, and i think sara has a question for you
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sara, do you have a question well, i thought she did. let me cask you, why do you believe the time is right for electric vehicles to take off not just here in the u.s., but around the world >> i think if you look at everything happening at the moment in north america, in europe, you are seeing a turning point for customers who want to drive, to be able to understand what sustainability can mean to change the world, to contribute to that. infrastructure has made a lot of improvements so not to be concerned in having this fear, not to find a charging point this has changed this is changing very rapidly in north america. >> you think it's accelerating >> yes, absolutely so the turning point has changed. the train has left the station it's coming. >> board member for porsche on a very big day, guys it starts at 150,000, but they believe it's going to be very successful not just here in the u.s., but around the world
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good morning everyone. i'm sue herera here is your cnbc update at this hour aerial footage shows seasons of utter devastation in tarts parte bahamas in the wake of hurricane dorian seven deaths have been reported. dorian setting its sights on the u.s. east coast. wcau meteorologist crystal cli has the forecast for us. >> dorian is moving at 105-mile-per-hour winds moving at eight miles an hour to the northwest. you see the latest track, keeping it at a category 2 strength storm and driving through the rest of today northward. it will then make a hook to the right overnight and on into parts of friday where the biggest concern will be from savannah all the way up to cape hatteras storm surge possibly up to eight
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feet and rain totals possibly up to 15 inches that's the latest. >> thanks. meantime, the dallas cowboys and ezekiel elliott have agreed on a $90 million six-year contract extension that will make him the nfl's highest paid running back $50 million of that will be guaranteed cowboys owner jerry jones commented on the signing on "squawk on the street" earlier today. >> i just turned my pockets out upstairs it means i'm $100 million lighter as of this morning seriously, zeke has been arguably our best player we're glad to get him booked in. we're glad to have hum on the team. >> what's not to be happy about? that's the news update this hour guys, i will send it back downtown to you. >> oh, yes, we are all over it thanks. goldman sachs holding the annual retail conference today with executives dealing with ongoing trade tensions and tariffs.
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courtney reagan joins us live from the conference with highlights courtney >> reporter: hi, sara. there is a lot to talk about the ceos of course being asked at the goldman sachs conference about their best tariff mitigation strategies, their expectations for the second half, what inventories will look like, as well as even store bases over the next two years. as you could imagine, the health of the consumer is front and center today starbucks ceo patrick breeze merced he does believe that the u.s. consumer is healthy and the greater macro environment is helping his business here domestically, even though the company set its profit forecast for the year below analysts' estimates. tapestry's ceos is new this is the parent company for coach and kate spade i had an opportunity to speak to him very briefly he also believes that the consumer environment is healthy in this country and he believes that that's going to help propel
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their multi-brand strategy forward in the come years. tariffs a big point of uncertainty for many retailers, particularly if a number of companies end of passing along the higher costs in the form of higher prices. that depresses overall consumer discretionary spending that. is a big concern, especially if you are an apparel company, for instance, because apparel has been very deflationary over the last several years as volume has grown. they are going to have a really hard time pushing forward those higher prices. sarah, back to you. >> thank you. elsewhere in consumer news, the carlyle group announcing a plan to partner with former dozier ceo patrick doyle as they icon summer retail companies pushing into technology. patrick doyle joins us here at post 9 his first interview after stepping down from dozier. it's been a year since you demd
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down from dominoes. >> i am excited. i took a little bit of time off and was out hiking in montana and enjoying things and thinking about what was going to make sense for me to do next. really ultimately decided that there is this opportunity to buy great businesses with great brands and cash flow that may need help figuring out how to transform with technology. i spoke to a few groups, and carlyle is fantastic i mean, carlyle with their global reach, the scale that they have, the expertise really a terrific team that is focused on growth as the way to create value. it just is a perfect partnership. so we're going to look for some businesses that are existing businesses that can use technology to transform them frankly, a lot like how we ran the play at dominoes. >> tell us more. size of business, public, private, what exactly are you looking for? >> public or private probably up to $10 billion in
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enterprise value real scale businesses, which is ultimately i think important if you are going to bring technology if and create competitive advantage by doing it inside, you need the resources to invest in into the technology and analytics to make that work. so scale businesses, existing businesses could be private or public, and we'll see. >> what sort of technology do you look for without the pressure of the quarterly earnings that you dealt with at domino's, when you think five, ten years out about where consumer companies need to be >> that's the key in terms of doing this through private equity is having the timeframe to do it i mean, it took some time to build that at domino's and so really to me, you know, it could be retail, it could be restaurants, it could be hospitality, health care everything where you have the direct relationship with the customer that's the key because you are creating the data. you know what they are doing, what they are buying, how much they are spending. you can get far more efficient with media spends.
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so really to me that's the key, is that they have got the direct relationship with the customer so they are creating that opportunity for using that data and kind of using the analytics that you can drive efficiency. >> in retail does mall exposure make you nervous >> you know, honestly, there are great retailers doing incredibly well i am the lead director at best buy. they are doing incredibly well so it really is, it comes down to how they are executing. best buy has been putting on a clinic they have been doing incredibly well they are using technology. they sell technology but you think it's less about where they are located and how they have adapted to this new world. there are those that are struggling with it and there are those who are doing incredibly well. >> you mentioned a number of different industries in terms of what you might be looking at what is going to be the signal this is the right one? clearly, things have to be available for sell
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do you see yourself rolling up in a particular industry or doing one large acquisition? >> over time it will hopefully be more than one acquisition the goal is to find the first one that has the right fit that we are excited about that ability to transform if it's private, it may well be a family trying to figure out how to do this they have got a great business they are proud of. they want someone who can come in and really help them drive that forward but over time i'll go very deep on the first one, help figure it out, make sure we have the right team in place, that we got the right strategy then we go on and work on the next one it could wind up being two or three over time. >> a question i have when people talking about investing in technology at fast food companies and restaurants is the supply chain and whether the eventual goal is to replace the labor force with technology. what do you think about that >> it's interesting. we look to obviously have a lot of things at domino's.
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people want their food handmade. i honestly think that replacing the people making the food is probably the least interesting but clearly, you know, how they are ordering and how you are getting the food to them and, you know, and how you are marketing to them, all of those things i think are huge -- >> who is doing a good job at this. >> domino's. >> their sales growth is slowing down, facing delivery pressure from yum and papa johns. >> domino's team is exceptional. i have no doubt they will continue to grow the business. they are fantastic but i always have said if you look at the restaurant industry, domino's has done a great job with off premise starbucks is probably the best on premise with what they have done with technology but domino's is in a great place. >> you put starbucks above, say, chipotle >> today, yes. i think they are investing and
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they are working to get caught up on that but i think up until now, i'd give starbucks the edge on that. >> i guess do distressed situations interest you? because the thinking is you can either invest in tech or manage your balance sheet obligations. >> right probably not a distressed business we are looking for good businesses that have strong cash flow where there is this opportunity to transform how they operate, how they go to market, to bring the technology into that. that's what we are looking for. >> we have been datalking about this with mcdonald's how do you get traffic up? it's one thing to have promotional pricing and new menu offerings. to get people in the door has been challenging. >> yeah, businesses executing well get it done honestly, the restaurant industry is not going to grow fast i mean, it's probably a o1 to 2 order count grower so it is largely a share game. these people executing
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incredibly well will take share. it's going to be an expense to those not adapting quickly enough. >> the stocks are add record high some stocks have done so well this year i wonder if you think that's a reflection of the truong consumer we talk about, the fact that the u.s. is not in recession and not heading there because it's on the consumer's back, or just the business models, the asset light models, the fact that bond yields are low, that sort of thing? >> it's an example of what we will be looking for at carlyle, is businesses that are generating the cash, that have the right model. that's where y i think they are attractive and what we will be looking for. >> when you saw the chicken sandwich popeye's story which involved social media, involved an inability to get what their customers wanted, what were your thoughts >> it's interesting. they generated an awful lot of news around the popeye's brand it's a terrific brand. you know, i don't know how much
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was on purpose or not to run out, but they generated an awful lot of discussion around it. >> i thought you were going to ask about alt meat, alternative meat is that here to stay >> sure it is. absolutely i don't know how big it's going to be, but there are consumers demanding things that's how you get on strand. >> patrick doyle, good to have you back. >> thank you, sara appreciate it. >> now joining carlyle group it's me? >> that's you. >> sorry, i was texting. when we return - >> you get one tease per hour. make it good. >> thank you, sara when we come back, stocks are continuing to rally. we asked that age-old question sk it going to a the playbook on volatility when we come back l? the playbook on volatility when we come back as the playbook on volatility when we come back t? the playbook on volatility when we come back
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easing hong kong tensions and a slew of global trade data helping fuel today's broad rally. you see the major rinks.
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joining us now wells fargo asset management marggy patel and cio of quantitative equities, olivia angle. is now a good time to buy and people are making a mistake if they are underweight equities? why? >> yes, i think so i think one of the reasons we had this correction macro uncertainties also reflects the fact the fed was too tight last year and they have changed that. they are tastarting to ease with a lag, say, six months from now, i think we will see committee growth pick up, stocks will follow. we have had a 5% correction in a lot of sectors. >> olivia, you tend to think, i believe, that there is not that much cheap in this market. is that true >> that's correct. i think this is the time we want to be focusing on defensive quality but not overpaying for it there is a lot of things that
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are cheap in the market, but i think they are cheap for a reason so we're finding, we're trying to find, and it's a challenging job to find the names in the segments of the market that are reasonably valued but providing some cushion against this late cycle macro driven volatile market. >> all right cheap for a reason is what macro driven and sort of what sectors, cycle sectors >> yeah, possibly banks and autos in that category given the interest rate cycle, given the trade wars it's too early to be piling in there. i think where we can find better value in names that are going to be more stable, we think that there are names in the traditionally not so defensive parts of the market like in the consumer discretionary part. the restaurant sector. we actually think when you are looking for characteristics of sustainable growth as your previous guest was saying, the
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restaurant sector really shines in that category also, in the tech services segment, it's not so exciting as the high-flying really expensive tech categories, but a much more defensive play and you can find reasonable value there >> you know, i'm curious what you are seeing within wells fargo itself i assume you have a view on that in terms of people staying out of equities or being perhaps reluctant to make the allocation that their advisor might advise? >> well, we see investment advisors very positive about the markets. actual actually their clients are, too. a lot of the advisors walk their clients back from the ledge whether we had that crash in december, when the market bounced back a lot of the advisors got a lot of credibility. people missed that so people are much more optimistic, i think, than in previous slowdowns that we have seen >> olivia, how do you think about the strength of the u.s. consumer and how much staying power that
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has to keep us from turning lower in the economy >> i think it would be dangerous to be betting everything on the u.s. consumer being super robust i think it's better to have offsetting position that is are resilient. i am not saying we are in an imminent recession, but the market is going to react as though there is one going to happen from time to time, and so we don't want to have that volatility in equity portfolios. that's why we are looking at su sustainable growth. >> a lot of people say let's avoid the volatility in equities and find value in either corporate debt or fixed income to what degree are you trying to play around stocks in particular >> we are not worried about short-term volatility as investors are really looking for long-term wealth creation stocks that have sustainable growth within fixed income we think
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that the high yield market in the u.s. looks very attractive for the fixed income investor. yields of, say, 4 to 6.5%. huge premium other treasurys and defaults under 2%. we think that that will have modest returns, less than stock, but for the fixed-income oriented investor we think that is an attractive place to be right now. >> and again i guess to end here, you see the risk being overstated in terms of the equity market broadly speaking >> yes, i do i think it's a little bit of wishful thinking to hope we have a recession to pile in and buy stocks down 20%. this looks pretty much like the kind of corrections we have had over the last few years. 5 to 8%. the economy is too strong and too sustainable to have a recession and a big stock market crash, we think. >> well, thank you both. as we go to break, take a look at box.
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welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm dominic chu. stocks are rallying on the string of gop political headlines. the s&p 500 has nearly wiped out yesterday's losses cyclical sectors like tech and industrials are bucking that trend, that recent down trend that they've seen along with energy stocks as well. now, that's in large part due to a big rally in crude oil prices, which are now trading in the green over the course of the past month as well that's lifting energy names like devon energy, hess, apache,
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conocophilli conocophillips, they're all up about 2% or more today we'll see if that holds up throughout the course of the day. geopolitics and supplies and demand all playing out i will send it back downtown to you guys, david at the new york stock exchange >> thank you, dom. time to turn to sarah so we can find out what's coming up on the big show at 3:00 today. >> of course we'll see whether we can sustain this rally. it's lost a bit of steam we've got some of the defensive groups under pressure like utilities and health care. we're going to speak with sarah bloom raskin about today's fed speakers, and the buzz si op-ed about politicizing the central bank slack will be reporting quarterly results for the first time as a public company that stock down double-digits since its june ipo, getting a nice pop today we'll see you then. a lot more on today's rally as the dow's up 158.
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