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nasdaq another record high. >> home depot was almost all of the dow decline, 80 points of dow decline. >> the record close for the nasdaq, not dow and s&p as we just noted were a little low but still close to the record all-time closing highs that does it for "closing bell." >> "fast money" begins right now. >> with david faber no less. >> enjoy. >> you wanted to get that in life from the nasdaq market site over looking new york city time square imdavid faber tim seymour with us. karen finerman dan nathan and guy adami tonight on fastest another bruising for boeing. in after regulators called for a redesign of the 737 jet. the engines will the company overcome the hit >> plus qualcomm ceo big plans for 5g we wrap up the chip jnt analyst day and find out what's next for the stock. check out the mystery chart.
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shares dropping as much as 6%. what made this company take a turn for the worse the traders are here to break down theout look for in name and a lot of others. we're starting with retailers. that was the story certainly this morning when we were on squawk on the street at the beginning of the trading day, the etf tomahawk tracking the space falling nearly 2%. the worst day in more than a month as retail earnings kick into high gear tonight we bring you good, bad and ugly today. >> wow. >> sound effects and everything. >> retail wreck. let's start with the gold. >> tj maxx bucking the trend closing in the green after a beat on both on the bottom line. but then there was the bad that's home depot. it did get hammered this amp missing revenue expect rations cut the 2019 sales forecast but the ugly, that is reserved for kohls, the shares down 19% posting the worst day in more than two years
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we shall also note we just got results from urban outfitters. you can see it the stock down as much as 14% in the after hurs. after reporting a miss in the top and bottom lines so of course the question today is retail paying company, or telling us something about the consumer as we head into the christmas season guy? >> david, no, no, no that's not how it works if we make it to january and i say if because in tv as you know anything can happen. >> yes. >> but if we make it it's 13 years. in the 13 years this is your maiden voyage -- maiden voyage on "fast money." >> they never asked knee. >> it's incredible. >> i wanted to do is so badly. >> you're the mt. rushmore you are the god. of course joe would be the ugly. the eli wallet i don't think it says anybody about the consumer i think it's company specific. on the other side of the coin you look at nike on fire lulu lemon higher.
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tjx made the all-time high 21 times forward earnings i don't think that's ridiculously expensive home depot blame strategic initiatives. but comps missed and revenue missed looking like it wants to trade back down to the august low. although i'd love to say an indictment of the consumer i don't think it is. >> if you think about home depot, this is a company at 22 times next year. and rallied significantly into this print the comps actually i don't think were as bad as people want to make them out tp to be ultimately they finish act around a 5% comp expected for the entire quarter at 4.6 far from a disaster. get to the place where you think about things driving home improve appear refie and heloc and all the things coming out of the low interest rate environment. the same wind at the back of home depot you just have to question how much you want to pay. >> if you look at forward estimates for 2020, the current quarter in home depot.
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i see the down year over year earning and sales print. the first time in home depot in years. maybe five years so maybe the guidance was a bit sand bagged. maybe analyst moved the estimates low. but if they were to print the first down eps and sales quarter year over year that would be a seminole for retail especially in in lag. especially when you consider how much heavy lifting the big cap -- large cap -- big box i guys have done when we think about it wal-mart, target, costco and home depot like my maga complex in tek. >> you might want to tell david about that. >> if you are going to be. >> it's not what you think. >> the microsoft, apple, google and amazon partner on the squuk on the treat as a phang thing. >> he has wac the tc.h. >> you don't watcher that.
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>> i do of course. but i think it's important when we think about retail we know the megacap big bock are doing heavy lifting. >> i think there are some winners. you talk about nike, obviously big. but ralph lauren doing well. to me the kohls was the most interesting. i mean, home depot was priced for perfection or near perfection so it was only -- it's off 5% and restate the multiple as well as the earnings beat a little light. kohls priced for me yokerty and missed by a fair margin and hard to get excited about some of the things they say they are excited about tp and now trades at under 10 times earnings. and it doesn't -- it's cheap but it should be cheap and i -- it's unclear. >> seems a bit of the credibility problem. ance willing to the call talking about the promotional environment, pricely particularly in womens and what it means trying to establish momentum any did the up quarter at least -- a fractionally.
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>> fraction. >> not enough. >> i don't know what the amazon arrangement does for them. >> not much in terms of traffic getting in. >> they talk about they are getting traffic and different customer than the normal demographic. that's probably good but i didn't get the sense it was adding to the bottom line. >> well, you know, david you asked -- the question posed is there some something wrong with the consumer if you look at kohls and wal-mart and the a answer is absolutely in the think about the housing numbers this morning reinforcing we know where the job market and wages are. opinion with kohls you get back to the big box store ridiculously competitive wal-mart is finally going back to beating everybody on price. there is no margin the only place they get growth in terms of the grocery business that's not a way to get excited pl kohl'ses was the looser of the bunch until it started to outperform and i think you're going back to relevant till performance appear
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value. kohls state stays behind those two. >> at certain point valuations do matter. one thing i say all the time david i don't know if you agree. but never underestimate the consumer want to spend not to be confused with health to pend. i think the consumer is as strapped as they've been in last ten years. and if you get thedown turn in the market they will stop spending on the time like we saw last october, november when we went down 20%. but in the valuations matter carter braxton worth you might be familiar with him he is on the par thenen. >> into earnings in december, kiosko at 32 times forward numbers. that's getting way ahead of its skis >> let's sfrat what the consumer might or might not do in the
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holiday season and what the stocks are doing and last night gary cohen the former economic adviser to trump asked on this program, will trump blink if we don't have progress on the trade dale on the tariffs on december 15th that's important let me tell you, you mentioned discounting. we might have an inventory issue if we saw a punch of retailers pul forward a lot of product for the christmas season and then if we get to december 15th deadline and don't have resolution appear the tafrgs g in the tox are going down tp i'll tell you look at the xrt, up 0 ferps from a 52-week low made in august when did it happen after trump mentioned the potential for these consumer tariffs. the xrt will be going lower if the tariffs come back. >> i would agree with that in fact the xrt trel active to the s&p it's underperformed by almost 20% the last couple years. 15% since the lows in august of
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2018 how you measure the consumer in retail, though, ienl not sure it's through the xrt but the xrt hasn't been gauging some of these things outperforming. look at big cap tech and amazon, that's wal-mart. >> i noticed macy's and nordstrom, the mall-based retailers in particular are the ones they take it out on neither one reported a number. i think we hear from macy's soon but they were down 6% today. you look at the mall, look at kohl's macy's has to be near the new low. >> macy's is over 10% yield kind of extraordinary considering -- i mean 10% yield and the debt doesn't trade like it's in distress at all. there is some giant discounting. >> did you see terrie lund green the former ceo of nordstroms when he left there he was loaded up long macy's he but he bought wal-mart, costco and target. >> he said he did have enough
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macy. >> >> speaking of wrrmt and sticking with retail we heard from one of the world's biggest retailers. wal-mart ceo doug mcmillon is a said not everything is moving 00% online check out what he told the panel at the evolve event. >> i'm really confident they want stores because we see the evidence of that but a few years ago there were a lot of voices inside the company questioning everything and so we didn't go into it saying our purpose in life to prove that stores part of the future we didn't. we started with how do customers want to be served. it turns out the stores enup playing an important role in the process especially with fresh and perishable foods and things buying in big baskets all the time. >> made in the point karen in the past he had time to fix things at wal-mart because he has the family in there as the large shareholder. he doesn't have to worry about anybody else coming in and pressuring him they have done a lot there in terms of online obviously. the jet acquisition and moving from there
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and in the stores as well. >> i was skeptical of the jet acquisition when they did it and the whole push bay everything was it binobo. >> cart 2 whatever that means. >> buying willy nily with you he has done an extraordinary job. and he had a lot of money to be able to do it. i mean, they're competing head to head. and i mean, they seem to have the great momentum process the stock a little bit expensive. i own target hopefully on the same trajectory but a little more fair priced >> the best thing that happened to the stock is they threw the hat in a big way into online and they had to. but they're almost getting some bit of an amazon multiple. they're not even close i'm saying to get the benefit of hey, we're in a growth part of the business and relative to the core business this is showing 30% growth, that's is something the stock has been rewarded on i would repeat that wal-mart's growth in groceries, a losing business for them, it's getting people in the stores and that's great but in terms of comps it's not
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pushing them over the edge. >> real quick, 67% earnings growth doesn't make sense. you say for the last $20 into stock. and you've been wrng as a certain point it matters. target might be tomorrow. >> how can you have the conversation and not mention that amazon is down 13% from the highs over the summer when you think of the maga complex trading at all time highs this week alone. >> for what. >> for the rest of retail. because amazon was the darling, the ones forcing the change over at wal-mart and target to your point before as wet aws becomes a smaller percentage of sales they rely on just what they can do, how they can flex in retail. we know one-day shipping has been a tax. >> they're in an investment cycle gwen which investors sort of -- >> yeah. >> the multiple diversion, guy interesting in retail pl kohl's at 10 piems pops costco oh 32
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times. >> target self what are you supposed to do the higher multiple stocks are the ones you want to own. >> until you don't you know how fast -- remember under armour everyone wanted it at a certain multiple when multiples matter get out of the way. because things go further down than people give them credit for in my opinion. >> all right we'll hear more from the wal-mart ceo doug mcmillon tomorrow on squawk box. no kidding see what you learn here 7:30 a.m. eastern. >> you'll be watching that closely. >> i will. >> morehead nds for boeing federal regulators calling for big changes to the company's planes full details ahead and later, hanging up on at&t. we're take you inside one analyst call that did send the stock you see down 4% today. live from times square it is in new york city i'm told ne rhthee is a lot more "fast moy"ig aad
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all things that move anything that moves phil it tells us what's going on hi, phil. >> hey, david, in the headline risk area for boeing right now and any time you see headlines saying the 737 needs to be redesigned that's why you see the stock sell off sharply after the headline today here is what this is about the ntsb issued the final report involving an incident where there was an uncontrolled engine failure on a southwest airlines flight back in april of 2018 you may remember a banker partially sucked out of a wend who later died when they came down and landed safely they inspected engine what they discovered is the engines should be redesigned the inlet should be redesigned, the goal, to prevent uncontrolled engine failure in the future boeing issued a statement after the ntsb report saying boeing is committed to working closely with the f.a. chl a, engine manufacturers and industry stake hoerlds to implement
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enhancements addressing the ntsb's safety recommendations. by the way, this is a recommendation the ntsb is not a regulatory agency it's not like they have teeth they can put behind the recommendations but ultimately the f.a.a. will work with boeing about 7,000, 737 ng that's those built prior to the max that's how impacted by the recommendations. bit, any expect to have modifications put in place over time that will address the concerns as you look at g.e. making the engines as part of a joint venture with saffron out of france and southwest there was a recommendation in the report for southwest -- not a lot of movement on those stocks, david. but the bottom line is these planes are not being brought down any will continue to fly and the recommendations will be implemented over the course of let's say six months to a year, year and a half. ultimately the fixes go in on the engines to minimize the
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inlet there. >> phil, if it were not for the 737 max would we be paying attention to a story like this >> well, because it was an incident in which a passenger died, yes it would get attention. do i think there would be a. o selloff if not the 737, no when the stock went down early today as i immediately called people in washington and boeing appear g.e. who was clear. you hate to say a standard ntsb report any looked at it and said these are the recommendations these planes will continue to play it's not that they've unsafe you hit on the point if it's not the 737 does it get as much attention? probably not. >> phil, thank you phil lebeau joining us this evening. >> you bet. >> of course in l.a. a bit earlier. let's talk boeing and trade boeing what are your thoughts on this. >> i'm long boeing as we pointed out i won't repeat the news i think this is significant news for a company in the cross
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hairs. but the most important for the company is what they announced a woke ago which is their time line until whoever sings, it's not back online. but early 2020 is what the market now expects from this company. and if you think about that dynamic it allows them to get back to a production schedule which could have them at 80 planes by the end of the year which i think leaving aside all other noise is what the stock is following. >> i think there is too much headline risk. 375 is a revel back in march stock went from 440 to 375 pretty much in a straight line that's where we traded up to seemingly failed again i think it goes lower. i mean, they'll start grounding boeing planes if there is not enough johnny walk are barak in the little cart parts that they bring down the aisle because that's the type of microep scope i think they're under. any agency. >> have you been serve upon an airplane. >> i don't drink on planes and you've flown with me before. >> sounds like. >> my point is tlch there is too much headline risk and agencies getting saying something
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negative i think you avoid the stock i think it goes lower. >> let me push back a little it seems the stock absorbs bad news better and better each time we seed about news i don't think this qualifies as overly bad news. but it seems to have weathered a number of terribles hearings >> this is the worst years for a corporation you could have imagine and assistant still up 14%. >> somewhat impevuous. >> the benefit of a duopoly. >> two things can happen that a the schedule gets pushed up and b maybe lose the ceo those are two things. >> that may not be seen as negative at this point. >> unless that theys just promote somebody internally who has been there 25 years or something. i guess that it's -- you know, like to david's point, the stock up 14% 346 people died in two crashes in the last 18 months on their planes you know there was a headline about the f.a. chl a chief thinking about taking a holist
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he can approach to the approvals rather than letting the airline makers do the -- i think that yes the stock is resilient yes a lot of people are thinking about the loss of earnings this year you get back up to the production level of the max in 2020, get that back and the cash flow going and then it's a cheap stock in that regard. but i think there are a couple of headlines. >> really quickly there is a capacity issue for airlines to think about. people are not estimating that the capacity growth that you have seen in airlines over the years that people are so concerned for this sector, this really helping them. you have a may have a bad line coming up next year. >> you can read more about the boeing on the website. cnbc.com and more on "fast money" as well here's what's coming up next. >> announcer: time to take cover. why one top wall street analyst says the record really could be come to an end and later it's our call of the day. we'll tell you what sent shares of at&t tumbling arndk ou
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well back to "fast money." it was a mixed bag for the markets today. the nasdaq set a new all-time high with you the s&p fell short of a record of its own. and the dow down triple digits the next guest says the record run on wall street running out of steam let's bring in chris harvey. last on "fast money" in september and he said then that equities were headed higher. and he was right the s&p up 4% since that call. of course the question is, where do we go from here welcome back, chris nice to have. >> you good to be back. >> why are we running out of steam. >> we're running out of steam a couple of reasons. we talk about the wall of worry.
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now we see the top of the wall of worry but most more importantly you are playing for limitinged upside and growing downside our price target is 30.88. about 1% away from that. once he get there we're not saying we're out but what we want to see is people more optimistic and bullish. see the bears cap it lit other than dan we have seen that in spades. so now what we're looking for is we're doing it piecemeal in early september upgraded banks. now what with he say is if you haven't gotten in banks you want to wait. because he expect underperformance in the short term wove been all over the semi trade a few months now we are getting less enthusiastic at this point in time lastly looking at trade and tariff, trump has a history of when the market is high things good for him to press bets a little bit and i don't think that's priced into the market just yet. >> that's the wall of worry are those the main ones or something else you missed. >> no, no, that that pretty much covering everything at this
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point in time. >> chris, there is to me all the dahm where the stealth easing the fed is has there is $2807 more op the balance sheet than six weeks, eight weeks ago. how much of is that is a sugar high or stays with us? i don't think they can unwoind that any time soon backup but that to me has been an equity bonanza. >> right you had the fed cutting rates and flooding the market with liquidity. and you had bank earnings better than expected. rurite it's going to be with us some period of time which is why the market grinds higher but you can't bet longer term. looking to 2020, 2011, 2022 what you should expect from the capital markets are pedestrian-like returns and single digit returns but right now we're talking about the meltup, bears capitulating more upside. but the risk reward doesn't look attract disbelieve talking about the risk-reward if you think there is a china deal and is it
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already priced anything left for that. >> we think most if not all is priced in at this point in time. this is different than tax reform with tax reform once you got that you could say eps numbers go x% higher and then price that in here what with with we talk about is some ag being done. as we go down the road we've been talking about ip and market access the problem is that chinese have a built in excuse. we're investigating big tech at this point in time the chinese excuse is you guys don't trust big tech why should we trust it? why would open the market to you? in the short-term i think we got something on the table much priced in. but longer term it's more difficult to get material amount of trading tariff goods on the table. >> and what if we don't. >> what if december 15th comes, the tariffs actually go up and new ones go on, and there is no deal >> it's not a pretty story which is why we say take money off the
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table and conservativively position the look for opportunities to derisk the portfolio at this point. >> where are you on yields obviously earlier in the year with the 10-year treasure treasury going back to one year lows let eye of traders like there. but we had the bounce to 1.95. here we are at 1.78. if they go back down what does that mean for equities. >> it's more of a risk-on environment. we should see equities be a bit more challenged. multiples should be compressed and start to see more of your low vol trades work out. start to see the high growth workout and start to see value rollover but more importantly the market will rollover. >> chris, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> guy, what do you make of the market right now in terms of where it stands to the china pinpoint, the china trade deal i find it surprising perhaps that we haven't given up more with the headlines lately.
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yesterday eunice yuan reporting that chinese officials are saying we may stand back and see z what happens yet we are going higher. >> i'm shocked i thought if you told me that news the night before i would say the s&p down 35, 40 handles. and then gary cohen talks about the president will not flirj on december 15th. which i agree. i don't think we're closing to a deal than back in march. but the market doesn't seem to care i'm shocked the vix has a 13 handle and the s&p at all-time high quickly though, the russell measured which iwm that topped in august 203. the russell telling a dinner than pan the broad are market. the 160 level in the iwm i think it turns lower i think -- what there is a bull market appear bubble in is absolutely in complacency in my opinion. >> i'll mention, that i'm the last bull to capitulate there,
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harvey when he mentioned. >> did you call yourself a bull. >> whatever. the upshot is, at late 17 after we had the tax cut we saw the market explode it seemed like everyone throwing caution to the wind. we spent nine months after that in milling around here not making any progress. then they went become and made a new high and dropped 20% in late 2018 so, you know, at the end of the day i think the complacent markets guy mentioned vix at 13, people not pricing any risk to a non-deal happening, sets up when you are at all-time highs for the corrections. i think a lot of bullish strategists are suggesting that we might see that bullback to 2,800 in q1. >> still ahead here big biotech breakout making this stock the best performing initial public offering of the year we'll tell you the name. that's straight ahead. plus at&t down over 4% on the
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therapeutics up more than 34% today the that's not the big move -- is that right in 650% in the last week. >> yeah. >> sometimes the moves man in these are incredible why? successful trial results for a schizophrenia drug backup they went public in june. it's the expect performing ipo of the year. guy, you flagged this stock good for you. >> good -- if i flagged it a week ago good for me but we talked about the last couple days just put going in perspective, this is not a small company. i mean the market cap now north about $1.5 billion maybe closing on two priced three now priced a secondary yesterday a $2.1 million share secondary after the close. stock closed at 96 tip typically would have been detrimental up next today another $30 i'm not telling you to run out and boy it because that's not what he here for. but i think it points out there
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is still opportunity and opportunity in biotech you look at a company like am again equitily making all-time high was a reasonable valuation. i think people have gotten scared of the space because of all the political rhetoric but you see the name like this and other names getting the mojo back, this space is still viable. >> let's say you owned it going into the last week, karuna. >> as he said this -- -- you got to take the money and run. >> steve miller band. >> that's a miserable tong. >> big cap pek tech -- big cap biotech. you are they are running out and buying the ibb boy again, am again, enco, gilead, a massive underperform he were a long time is up 17% in the last 35 sessions thap that which has valuations great balance sheets and maybe catalyst peek are looking at. >> you did have that really important news from biogen when they revisited the trial results that certainly helped.
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let's move from biotech to big technology qualcomm dropping 3% the company held the analyst day first one in a number of years our own john fortt sat down exclusive with qualcomm ceo steve malen coumalen cost. >> getting away from regulatory issues, getting away from the lawsuits, the scuffle with apple, really they want to talk about 5g and i asked him the trajectory what's it like when are investors really feeling the bulk of the benefits here is what he said >> you really have to see it the next two quarters. if you look at the last earnings call we gave a restraining guide for the licensing business,
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which it sits as a pros proxy for the christmas season selling. then we gave a soft indication of what we thought the march quarter would be, which essentially said you are seeing fiefrg compacting the product business at that time. and it will come in two phases during the calendar year >> then after that you see things like the industrial internet of things you see flexible factories that's not coming for a couple of years once the cycle has worked out they have standards locked in place. knew versions of 5g. sul ee factories getting 5g to be able to move equipment around qualcomm tried later in the program to nail down numbers one interesting one has to do with how much of the revenue is coming from the phone side of the business and how much is coming from other platforms like automotive, like iot they broke out $3.4 billion in other platforms, $11.3 billion in the phone making the argument the other part of the business, other
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platforms is a real important growth area going forward. if you looking at qualcomm as a stock i think there are four things to question yourself about. what do you think happens with huawei long-term right now huawei is not paying they are a kpet her. what happens with the ftc issue cropping up early 2020 apple has intel mod embusiness you have to imagine they want to build their own 5g but qualcomm is argoing they do better than apple and apple has to buy us from eventually. and then how fast can qualcomm move to autos. and will the automotivive industry adopt the technology? because that's a big part of the business they argue processor for for growth. >> and expedia was going to be a big art. >> a nxp moving up quite a bit but qualcomm saying we don't need them. look at the size of our automotivive business on our own
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we're at scale $3.4 billion they're going to be at the electronics show telling what they can do or thin own. >> as they diversify away from smartphones, and see a better margin business? that's a high are margin business for them. >> therapy not put going that way. in fact they argue that in 5g because they have more i.p. in the phone they are doing better in phones because of 5g. but they are saying the other businesses are phone-like in the technology that they are building into them people aren't necessarily buying new cars every two, two and a half years with smartphones in their heyday but when you look at autos and iot. they're not trying to not make a big deal ou the of the devices like a superiorities pro x which has the qualcomm chip. but they say as we move to the cloud and the intelligence edge as we work with the cloud is working to our advantage and displace the p.c. stahl warts a
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little bit >> entertain of things they keep talking about is a big opportunity. it's interesting, the stock ended down today i'm not sure what the expectations were going into. >> stock. >> stock was trading at 19-year highs heading into this. when you think about it, you mentioned about the nxpi deal david. if you think about the semi conductor stock on the planet what did they engage in? m. and ap that's how they diversified how did intel into mobile they bought mobilite and iot alterrap they've been messing around with regulatory issues and all this stuff. and you know, over the last five years their sales went from $26 billion to 19.5. and next year is the first year to show growth that's one of the reasons investors might be excited but john laid out a host of 2020 issues they might have with the stock again at 19-year highs
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>> including the competitive landscape -- how long will huawei be sidelined? a as they talk about the portfolio having end to end components that seems to be what they want to talk about, that's the area of differentiation and competitive advantage. >> they do pan in way the wireless story is like the story apple try to tell in devices >> they put. the slide at analysts showing intel's 4 g. mod emand theirs how much small are and compact it is. the 5g, theirhuawei 5g they are saying that makes a difference in cars for example even though it's big you can't afford to throw off heat in the car. we are winning that deal they argue. >> they argue even in apple's devices they win the chip business if the chip is better if you believe that maybe you got with qualcomm. i've talked of them as being the tom brady of the legal issues. just when you think he is down
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he figures out a way to come back. >> how are we getting flate gate into this. >> people argued that equal kwom is trying to tie chips to licenses that's the squishy football some would argue. >> china remains an important part of theirs their zblies yes, very important. >> up next investors pulling the plug on at&t you can see the stock down over 4% this is after one influential analyst warned that the telecom giant stock has gone too far too fast we will discuss that plus target stepping up to report earnings before the bell tomorrow the options market implies interesting moves for that retailer, particularly after we heard from a bunch this morning. don't go anywhere we have a lot more "fast money" coming right at you after the break robinhood believes now is the time to do money.
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analyst in question. i read the report. it was interesting he is looking at 6% of the business is direct tv, the warner media assets, talking about the fact that they put on the the 1% growth rate overall saying 40% is the wireless can be, can it grow fast enough to offset what he believes are continued declines not just as direct but also warner media he doesn't think so coming up with the 8% growth rate needed at wireless to do so. >> these guys move markets congrats on the impact of the report the challenge things i think people knew were out there the 60% of the business pointing out you have mid-single digits decline in the businesses. and the numbers don't add pup it means the wire line business has to grow ten times what it's going to and the numbers don't make sense if you invest in at&t for a div you lost it today. we always talk about on the show that's not why you should invest i am long the stock. i do think that elliott's role
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here is going to force change that will allow people potentially to realize this sum of the parts i do think the media business, streaming business hypothesis helps you to get to a different multiple but there is a lot to be prove >> stock went from 30 to 40. that's a huge move for a name like at&t over the course of the last few months. good for them to for doing theeft it's a level make it makes sense for the downgrade. and earlier to your point they move markets i can understand why you would be skeptical but in terms of the balance sheet they're no where there as poor as they were for six to nine months ago. >> zero rate environment for very good for this company. >> we talk about disney vertically here. and comcast has done the same thing, buying content that has president distribution at&t was rewardrded for the making acquisition outperforming verizon. oom of people called in question verizon the last couple years,
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the acquisition acquisitions they made and wrote down to nothing. at&t got that benefit. i know the fmoffts guys were all over this. but even in the zero rate environment nef tons of doet, every acquisition they made. sooner or later when the wireless business is declining the way it is. you have to think out how to manage the debt load. >> that's a key question if they hit rough road in terms of expectations not coming -- or numbers not coming in as expected particularly for the entertainment assets they bleed subscribers but they did kait that was going to be the last quarter in terms of subscriber losses >> up next will target hit the mark. >> they report earnings before the bell tomorrow. why the stock could stee a swing on the results we are riff at the nasdaq in , chor"ft remu me as money" still ahead it is nice.
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are. r.h. just ask r.h. ceo, a lot of letters now about the big stake berkshire hathaway revealed in -- but they revels in it. >> here is what the r.h. ceo had to say. >> like berkshire hathaway, you know, we're building a business that's capital efficient generates significant cash flow. enjoys a low cost to capital and generating industry leading returns. somehow we showed up on the radar and just proud >> stock was a bit under pressure given the route in retail joefrl. but still up 51% this year karen give me your take on the stock. >> i -- i mean, it's got a giant short interest, right? so that's sort of interesting to me that tends to push the stock when good news happens as in forced covering.
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i don't know, it seems expensive. i would not be short it. >> you wouldn't. >> let oaf people are though, for sure. >> and they are, why what's the main. >> it's too expensive. the product is too expensive they're not continuing to grow like this. they are spending a huge amount of money on stores, rirltly on the stores themselves, i don't know if you've been one to one. >> i've within to one downtown with the restaurant. >> it's really nice. really expense of to build and the product. >> great new name though, r.h. >> genius. >> how did they come up with that. >> who would have thought. >> jim has a lot of big interviews coming up at the top of the hour on "mad money. mark ben i don't have from salesforce a big one from nvidia. tomorrow morning, brian coronell that's an exclusive. and it's post earnings from the big retailer target will be looking to kick start a turn around after perhaps ray retail wreck today
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options traders betting target he at the least see a size lk move reporting before the bell dan nathan got up and walked to the plays that he brakes it down. >> there you go, dachd, the implied moved in the options market for just tomorrow is about 7% that's in either direction that is versus the 11% on average the stock has moved over the last four quarters today options activity was brisk. i thinko a lot had to do with the sentiment i think in retail. total options volume is 2.5 times average daily vol. it's important to remember will target be the imprison us to move things tarring is up 67% op the year here it's important to go to the chart and look how it got here if you go back to august look at the gap that it had when it reported the q2 earnings better than expected comps, better than expected online sales. the stock broke out to new highs. what's interesting is the last three months the stock held the gap really nicely. that's a very nice base there. but it's kind of up there in the
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middle of no where i think it's important to go back five years and let's just see, this stock had been basing in in levels in the 807, $90 range then you had the gap i suspect that area is a significant point of technical support for the time being that being said, when you are looking at some of these stocks, you know, this is up, you know, 67% on the yaoer, trading 18 times. that doesn't seem expense toef wal-mart at 24 or costco at 35 times. it's expense to have hagerty's history. the slightest bit of downgrade to the outlook they raised in august, i think the stock moves back towards about 100 here, filling in not the gap but filling in at least a bit of the move that we have seen since late august. one last thing, david faber, you know the restaurants on rh that's the port charles prime rib that's the burger you like so well. >> no it's not it's a big restaurant. >> it's in the same family. >> the same chef. >> he knows all the action including the "options action.
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