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markets in turmoil stock futures pointing to another day of losses as middle east tensions continue to surge. iran is threatening to back away from the 2015 nuclear deal and president trump ramping up his own rhetoric as well, threatening dozens of iranian military and cultural sites if that country takes any kind of revenge. major reaction in oil, gold and key global haven markets this morning. all of this as "worldwide exchange" begins right now
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good monday morning. welcome to the show. i'm dominic chu in for brian sullivan developing story as tensions between united states and iran reach new heights in the wake of that air strike that killed iranian general qasem soleimani. we have team coverage this morning. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington, d.c. also nbc's cal perry is live in doha, qatar. tracie, we'll begin with you. >> reporter: let's start with what's happening on capitol hill and what's expected to happen this week. remember, congress did not get a heads up about this military action against iran. we have learned overnight that democrats now want to push to give president trump a deadline to call it all off in a letter obtained overnight, house speaker nancy pelosi told democrats they'll vote this week to force president trump to end hostilities with iran in a month
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unless congress approves >> we're much closer to the edge of war. >> i'm concerned they don't have a strategy. >> reporter: congress did not get a heads up about the u.s. drone strike that killed qasem soleimani, iran's top military leader the administration insists there was an imminent threat >> there were, in fact, plots that he was working on that were aimed directly at significant harm to american interests we would have been negligent had we not taken this action. >> reporter: the president is warning 52 iranian sites will be hit very fast and hard, without hesitation, if iran retaliates on air force one overnight, he told reporters, those targets include cultural sites that even some republicans say should be off limits >> we shouldn't be attacking cultural sites. >> reporter: iran announced sunday it's abandoning promises made in the 2015 nuclear deal. as iraq voted to kick out 5,000 american troops. we are not leaving, the
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president said overnight, unless iraq pays the u.s. back for protecting their country against terrorists now, we heard a lot of lawmakers hear concerned about why the u.s. took this military action congress set to get a briefing this week on the intelligence behind that u.s. drone strike. dom? >> as we talk about this notion here that we could see some kind of electric legislative action to talk about what's happening with the war powers that president trump has, what exactly politically can we expect there how much support is there that house speaker nancy pelosi has with regard to getting this kind of a measure through the house of representatives >> reporter: that's a good question we haven't seen anything like a whip count yet to see what the support would look like, but the concern here seems to be not that there was not a threat coming from iran, but that congress was not consulted that's their wheelhouse. in other words, that the president did not follow the checks and balances in the
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constitution that seems to be their biggest concern with trying to push this war powers resolution this week. >> thank you very much, tracie potts, for that update live from washington, d.c. let's get over to nbc's cal perry live in doha, qatar, in the middle east. what are you hearing about the escalating tepe ining tensions t region right now given everything that's happening with iran and the united states >> reporter: listen, it's definitely a region on edge. and you have that really emanating from those comments by the u.s. president for the small gulf countries like qatar and kuwait and oman, it's about reaching out to the iranians, trying to ratchet down the tension and get them to limit whatever retaliatory strike they have planned those diplomatic efforts have been rebuffed by the iranians. they said they made a decision to strike back and that strike will be, quote, decisive what you have coming from washington and the u.s. president is unhelpful for a
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region that has for so many years seen civilian populations bear the brunt of these wars that's why the comments about hitting cultural sites were so badly taken in iran. that's why you have the huge crowds on the street today in tehran keep in mind, general soleimani was a war hero in iran he was seen not only as a war hero during the iran/iraq war but as a man who kept isis out of iran. that's why you see people rallying around that funeral and tensions are high. worth noting, when you look at the iran nuclear agreement and how it was dismajtntled by the americans, it withdrew and took out any possible communication between the united states and iran . >> let's talk about the support the united states would have with the smaller gulf nations. you're in qatar.
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let's talk about bahrain, uae. is there a sense that the united states would have some support from those nations if the escalation and tensions with iran continues on its current trajectory >> reporter: certainly these are places where the u.s. has its assets laid out. here in qatar you have the air base, largest american military base in the region 10,000 u.s. personnel on that base in bahrain you have the 5th fleet based there. the question you're asking is how will the qataris react if tensions turns into war? how would this small country with big ambitions react if they are caught up in the middle? they are giving the americans their support by allowing these bases to operate but they're going to come under more and more domestic pressure it's hard to imagine if the iranians would strike back, these countries wouldn't be in
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the middle geographically they're in the middle, politically they're in the middle you saw that first flurry of activity coming from here, qatar. >> cal perry from doha major reaction across the global market. stocks pointing to another day of losses after friday's broad selloff. the dow industrials down by 188 points that's an improvement over the course of the past hour. earlier we were down by 250 points, at least implied on the open the s&p off by 21 points the nasdaq down by 70 as well. let's talk about the movement in bonds and yields specifically. they are moving lower. check out the actions on the ten-year over the course of the past week. the ten-year note, 1.78% the two-year note. look at this week. you can see almost 1.95% over the course of the past week and we've been moving lower steadily
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throughout the course of the last five to seven days in the ten-year note. we're also seeing an uptick in gold a nice move higher over the course of the last week. right now 1578.50 thelast trad there. we're up 1.7% today. again, take a look at the move people flying to that safety of gold investors also seeking safety in the japanese yen now at a three-month high. they're currently 108 even that figure, $1 is worth 108 yen. the dollar has been weakening and the yen has been gaining strength over the course of the of this past week oil is also continuing to extend its gains this morning up 1.5%. now 1% a move tempered a little over the last hour. $63.80 the last trade for u.s. benchmark crude prices selling pressure being seen around the world as well in asia, you can see the nikkei in japan off by 2% the hang sang off 0.75% and
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shanghaicomposite flat on the day. let's spin that around to european trading we're seeing red across the board. not a speck of green across the european continent the cac in france and german dax off by nearly 2% at this stage for more on the markets, i'm joined by jim iuorio, a cnbc contributor. jim, thank you for joining us. let's talk about this sentiment carrying through the markets we're still hovering near record highs. but there seems to be a turn given what we've seen developmentally in iraq, iran and the u.s. >> well, i think we have to keep it in perspective, dom these types of headlines don't have to be that market negative. there's -- war is not necessarily that bad for stocks. the reality is we were sitting on top of a 30% gain over the
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year even the time of year it was, the first day of the year it happened, is a time where money managers and even down to individuals, you know, reflect on risk that they have and everybody had a lot of stock. so, this is a perfect reminder that stocks don't just go one way. that being said, you know, 3200 on the s&p seems to be a line in the sand we went down 3,205 on friday if we go wloe thbelow that -- af people look at technical analysis and say it's voodoo it's not the psychology in my mind, everyone will be, oh, gosh, i have too much risk on, it's time to reposition things and that could turn that into a more distinct correction. >> tech natural analysis is not voodoo but based on history and statistics at this stage as a trait trader, you look at history and statistics is this an environment where we could see the beginnings of a
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deeper pb haullback? >> without a doubt i think we'll know it relatively quickly today. i came in and i bought some -- bought back some hedges i had on that made some money in this move because we're staying above the 3,200. i'm not sure that's going to continue like i said, if it goes below it, then i think it's going to be the beginning of a correction that will be 7% to 8%. i think it could go down to 3,025 in the s&p i think we'll know relatively quickly. i took some profits today on my hedges i have some trades in that it will make me more short if we go below those levels. >> it sounds like you're cautious, and rightfully so. we have developmental headlines in the middle east there are also opportunities that can happen. this isn't to say we're profiteering at all. are there places you believe there could be opportunities to get into given the fact we have this cloud of uncertainty around
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the middle east right now? >> there's no doubt about it remember, i want to stress more, i think this is a hugely negative headline for the world. but as far as markets go, it doesn't have to be i'm not trying to belittle it at all. i have been looking at gold. gold started to move higher before this happened when it came above 1515 i thought it was a buy i still think it is. if it can settle above 1575, 1580 level i think the immediate yam could trade up to 1700 i'm planning at looking at that. crude, i'm less positive on crude. i think it could trade up to the beginning of november highs, between 72 and 75. that's fine. the big fundamental change in crude and mideast headline isn't as important as it was years ago because we produce and export as much as we import. so it's not quite as big a deal. i'll look add gold a little more closely. if this was a year ago, year and a half ago we would talk about bitcoin. bitcoin has been too wildly
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volatile to take it as a currency proxy or risk-off asset. i think that's in his own separate thing now. >> great to get a trader's perspective. jim, thank you. when we come back on the show, much more on this developing story out of the middle east and how it will impact the markets and your money. plus, could the rising tensions between the united states and iran throw a wrench in the fed's 2020 playbook former dallas fed president richard fisher joins us. a very busy hour still ahead when "worldwide exchange" tus. i can. the two words whispered at the start of every race. every new job. and attempt to parallel park. (electrical current buzzing) each new draft of every novel. (typing clicks) the finishing touch on every masterpiece. (newborn cries) it is humanity's official two-word war cry.
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recertify the plane until february "the wall street journal" reporting the faa is considering mandatory flight simulator training before pilots can fly the 737 max again. the agency had previously rejected the idea, which would add to cost and delays for airlines a formal decision is not expected until next month or later. meantime, we know boeing says it will halt production of the max this month the crisis has cost the company $9 billion so far and hit both suppliers and customers. boeing shares are lower today, as we can see. they're also down about 12% since the max was grounded last month. for boeing's part they say it's too soon to know whether this will cause any design changes but they say if this did require a fix, if, they said it would be a one to two-hour fix per plane. they say this is a simple fix. >> it doesn't change the fact there are a lot of ifs at play. >> and the company doesn't need that. as we head to break, here are some other stories we're watching this morning, including
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mcdonald's new chief executive officer looking at a culture shakeup at the fast food giant according to "the wall street journal," he is looking for a top human resources executive to change the professional environment away from one of late night parties and executive socializing preferred, perhaps, by his predecessor samsung saying it will introduce new devices at its event on february 11th it's widely expected they'll unveil a new foldable phone. france is warning the united states it will face retaliation from the eu if it tries to impose new trade tariffs in response to its new digital tax on companies like amazon and google >> announcer: today's big number 21 million barrels that's how much crude oil moves through the straits of hormuz every day.
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welcome back to "worldwide exchange." i'm francis rivera with your news headlines we start with three americans killed in a terror attack in kenya after al shabab militants ambushed an airfield near nairobi. u.s. and kenyan forces were able to kill five attackers this is the group's first attack against u.s. forces in the
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country. we know one of the victims in this attack, u.s. army specialist henry mayfield jr. was from a chicago suburb. he was 23 years old and joined the army in 2018 a massive evacuation is under way in australia the smoke has gotten so bad, it's blocked out the sun, turning the skies blood orange some call it apocalyptic with one official calling it an atomic bomb. 2,000 homes destroyed and more than 12 million acres charred. meanwhile, on the front lines of wildlife rescue are bindi and robert irwin, saving over 90,000 animals through their wildlife hospital and the australia zoo, which they own. disney's "frozen 2" has raked in $1.35 billion worldwide making it the biggest gross animated movie ever. still on my list my kids have been bugging me, dom, to go see that one.
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too late now >> my daughter won't even watch the first "frozen" so i'm waiting to see how this pans out for me thank you for that news update. still ahead on the show, crude prices continue to climb amid the growing fall outbetween united states and iran we're breaking down whether oil can and will build on some gains. former dallas fed pressure richard fisher weighs in on whether these middle east tensions will curtail positive expectations for the marks in 2020 montckn de exchange" is ba i a me memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. you should be mad your neighbor always wants to hang out. and you should be mad your smart fridge is unnecessarily complicated. make ice. making ice.
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markets are set for another day of steep losses amid mounting geopolitical issues president trump promising new sanctions as that country pulls out of its 2015 nuclear deal with everybody else over this death. the increasing tensions further fueling oil prices as you can see there, surging yet again this morning the second half of "worldwide exchange" begins right now good morning and welcome back to the show i'm dominic chu in for brian sullivan we continue to watch and monitor the growing fallout over the u.s.'s deadly drone strike in u.s. that killed a top iranian general. president trump is threatening to slap sanctions on iraq after leaders there called for the government to expel foreign troops from the country in the wake of that strike.
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meanwhile, iran announced yesterday that it will end its commitment to limit enrichment of uranium that came as people flooded the streets, as you can see here, in iran and iraq over the weekend to pay tribute to general qasem soleimani ahead of his funeral there is major reaction across the board this morning in global markets. stock futures pointing to some losses after friday's broad-based selloff. you can see the dow jones opening down by 180 points the s&p by 20. the s&p down by 68 it adds onto last week's losses and it does, by the way, just to put it in context, improve this morning. we were down 250-plus points implied earlier this morning we're down 180 right now a flight to safety under way in bonds. interest rates are moving lower. an uptick in gold, as you can see here the prices moving to the upside. gold prices just about,1578.80
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investors seeking safety in the japanese yen now at a three-month high for that currency. dollar weakening, yen strengthening. 107.98 the last trade there. oil extending its gains as well. u.s. benchmark prices, wti crude, $63.75. that's 1% to the upside. by the way, it's up 3.5% over the last week. now, selling pressure has also been seen around the world let's seat what's happening as asian markets close. the nikkei in japan closed down 2% flat for the shanghai composite nearly 1% drops for the hang seng in hong kong. let's flip that globe around that red theme continues not a green speck to be seen there. the cac in france by 1.25% the german dax down by 1.5% as well we have team coverage around the globe. cnbc's eamon javers in washington, d.c., and hadley
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gamble is in abu dhabi eamon, we'll start with you first. let's talk about the setup in washington, d.c., for the new developments in iran are we going to see any kind of a political movement there given be what we've seen out of the house of representatives >> yeah, dom, good morning a lot of moving pieces over the weekend to bring you up to speed on, including the administration out over the weekend making the case that this killing of soleimani, the iranian general you just mentioned in the leadup, that that was the right thing to do. mike pompeo, the secretary of state, was on "meet the press" over the weekend here's what he said. >> 100% certainty that america is safer. >> why did we put out that warning -- we do expect retaliation against american citizens, correct? >> you're focused on the second and the moment preserving and protecting and defending america is the mission we have. it may be there's noise in the
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interim that iranians chose to respond. i hope they don't. president trump has made clear that our response will be decisive and clear >> for his part, the president took to twitter over the weekend. here's what he said. a warning, in effect, to the rye yan y iranians that the united states will respond should iran strike any u.s. person or target, the united states will quickly and fully strike back, perhaps in a disproportionate manner. such legal notice is not required, the president argues, but is given, nonetheless. nbc news is report willing in the region a high-stakes meeting. the prime minister is expected to tell the united states to
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leave after that parliamentary vote over the weekend. the iraqis frustrated that the u.s. side took this action for his part, the president responding to that on air force one yesterday, flying back from mar-a-lago telling reporters in an interview in air force one that if the iraqis expel the united states, then the united states will send them a bill, in effect, for military bases in that country and also if it's not done in a way he agrees with, the president suggesting he'll slap sanctions on iraq. a lot going on here. >> let's talk about the inner workings of what's happening in d.c., at the capitol building, at the white house what's the likelihood we could find any kind of real bipartisan effort to move against iran? we already know house speaker nancy pelosi wants to look to curtail the war powers that president trump would have is there any common ground that could be found between republicans and democrats with
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regard to any future iran actions? >> look, i think you have some real uncertainty on the part of democrats who are saying, on the one hand, soleimani was a really bad guy. on the other hand, we're not sure this was the right move at the right time we want to know what the consequences of this are going to be. we want to know what the plan is for the fallout from it. republicans, by and large, have fallen behind the president saying he made the right call here the president has a lot of unilateral power here. the presidency is a powerful entity over the years it's gotten more powerful as the congress has ceded a lot of responsibility to the president in wartime the president argues he can do a lot of it himself whether congress likes it or not. >> a big development there eamon javers live in washington, d.c. thank you. let's turn to hadley gamble in abu dhabi let's talk about the reaction on the ground from some of the other gulf states. what is the sentiment like, what is the feeling is there any kind of support at all for the u.s. action?
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>> good morning, dom what we've seen over the last 48 hours from countries like saudi arabia, here in the uae, kuwait, bahrain, there's a lot of muted response, caution issuing statements that would urge caution and planning and preparedness for any potential continuation or retaliation on part of iran or the united states remember, of course, these gulf arab countries have been pushing the united states for years to be tougher on iran they were not fans of the jcpoa. we have heard from the iranians they will not comply any longer with the 2015 nuclear agreement. over the last few years there have been constant movements by the europeans and those in tehran trying to resurrect the nuclear deal that's something the president said was out the window pretty much from day one of his administration the iranians say they will no longer abide by that 2015 resolution in terms of what will happen
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next, i think it will be interesting to think about the potential fallout from that meeting between the u.s. ambassador, who is expected to meet with his iraqi counterpart hours from now yesterday overnight the iraqi parliament passed a nonbinding resolution to essentially reject or expel u.s. troops from iraq if that were to actually happen, what kind of vacuum that might create in that country in the sense that you have to remember the shia militias backed by iran, many times at the actual personal direction of qasem soleimani. we're the first ones in when we saw the rise of the islamic state, of daesh several years ago. what this country could actually look like as a result of that. all eyes will be on what happens next over the next 24 hours, frankly. not just in iraq but also in iran do am. >> there's a complex web of relations in the middle east, and that's putting it mildly let's talk about saudi arabia's role in this whole thing speaking of countries that have
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had an antagonistic relationship with iran, saudi arabia is one of them. saudi aramco facilities were bombed by iran and oil markets were in turmoil because of it. how about saudi aramco what is the status of that state-owned oil prize entity and what exactly is the reaction from them going to be if the further iran tensions lead to spikes in prices >> this is going to be a fascinating conversation as we move through the nextfew weeks what we've seen, of course, is the stock has shed something like 11% of its value off its high when they ipo'd initially i think the high was on wednesday following that listing. to date aramco has shed over 200 billion in value since its peak december 16th. now today they're off by 0.5%. looking at that as a bellwether, if you will, for the sentiment in this region, when i sat down
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with his royal highness a few weeks ago at the opec oil meeting, i asked him specifically about the security of aramco. nbc found intelligence and confirmed intelligence suggesting short-range ballistic missiles were placed in iraq by iran and those had range well within reach of aramco facilities without saudi arabia. he tells me he still feels they're security, but you have to wonder what this kind of instability is going to mean for this stock as we go through the coming weeks >> hadley gamble live in abu dhabi, thank you for that update. let's talk about the broader market risk that could result due to rising tensions between the united states and iran joining me, david sheppard, energy editor at the financial times and david tannenbaum at oliver wyman we'll start, dan, first with you. this idea -- you heard hadley talking about the sentiment on the ground what can we expect overall in
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terms of a u.s. response and will it be something that really drags us, perhaps, into a further military conflict in iran >> i think there's hope that there's less of a u.s. response, especially with all the rhetoric over the weekend i mean, i think if you go back at where this skirmish began, it began with the u.s. pulling out of the iran deal two years ago the air strike on qasem soleimani certainly was a terrible person, however, it's clearly created quite a bit of nationalist pride in iran. if you see the millions that have turned out for his funeral today in tehran. certainly this is not helping the u.s.'s case in the middle east at all. and all this does is create greater uncertainty, particularly for the allies in the eu and uk who have struggled to back some of the actions the u.s. has taken with respect to iran this is creating a bit of a further unilateral situation with the way the u.s. is treating iran where i think
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you're seeing a lot of allies cautiously watch and hope this de-escalates quickly and there are no more moves. >> david, an interesting point brought up by dan and hadley in the last segment this idea there could be a power vacuum developing inside of iraq the u.s. has taken painstaking efforts to stabilize the region. does this mean energy markets are in a new paradigm for higher prices for longer? >> i think it's too early to say if we're in new paradigm we've seen oil tick above $80 a barrel but have come off a bit i think it's worth bearing in mind there's a huge amount of uncertainty. that's going to scare the shorts out of the market and see prices, you know, generally tick higher on average. we've come up 5% in the last few days in terms of saying we're moving to in new range that we'regoin to be above 70 because of heightened risk the rest of the year, i don't think many people yet are making that bet. if you look at the oil forward
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curve, looking prices are six months, 12 months down the line, they have not responded as dramatically yet people still seem to be betting, look, if you come with $70 crude oil there's going to be a reaction on the supply side. we've already had saudi arabia and the united arab emirates indicate they could step in to help, you know, switching from cutting production to increasing production if they need to or potentially at the request of the united states, who they are clearly closely allied with. at the same time, if you have $70 crude oil this could throw a life line to the u.s. shell industry which appears to have slowed down which is causing some problems and why oil prices were already rising in part prior to these tensions picking up in the last few days. but if you have $70 crude oil that is going to prove a help. it might not cure all the ails of the u.s. shell industry which is looking like rapid production growth was going to slow down, but it will help and if with higher prices come
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higher supply from the u.s i don't think anyone is getting, right, this is it, we're going to $100. it doesn't feel that way if we see another event like we did in september with the attacks on saudi arabia, all bets might be off. for now, i don't think it's enough to say we're moving into a new range. >> got ya. dan, let's talk about the corporate implications the direct impact could be on oil companies for sure how do other countries and companiesnavigate this environment where sanctions could be further against iran and now against iraq >> who among us isn't cranky when we come back from winter vacation to threaten sanctions on iraq when there's uncertainty of what could happen next with the u.s. being expelled is one thing. there's a glimmer of hope with iran they didn't actually say they're going to no longer comply with the iran deal. they said they're going to abandon enrichment restrictions.
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they're very much allowing inspectors in. you could argue the meat of the substance of the deal is dead but there's still a glimmer of hope they may come back to the table and discuss. for foreign companies, for global companies, they've been iced out of the iranian market for years anyway the iran deal was supposed to bring about nuclear relief or nuclear prohibitions in exchange for certain relief and business that would be enabled. that never happened. global banks were terrified of moving into the market mostly because they've been penalized by u.s. regulators over the years a lot of large industrial deals never necessarily took off like they were announced. there's not a lot of companies that are in that are really impacted outside of oil at this point. i think there's still concern of what this could mean next. the net impact to the market outside of oil is it doesn't make a big difference because most companies had already abandoned iran for fear of u.s. regulatory retaliation. >> it's a fascinating discussion
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more more i'm joined by andy critchlow. thank you for joining us let's talk about those oil prices it seems like any time there's geopolitical tensions, oil prices do rise, especially in the middle east. the last time we saw bombing of saudi oil facilities, prices corrected to the downcited what happens this time >> i think you have to look into the past i think everyone was in agreement. the increase in prices wasn't as severe as some had feared. if you go back kind of 15 years to opec, you talk to oil ministers and they talk about a $25 a barrel risk premium in the oil price. this was a time around 2005, 2006, a much more secure era in the oil market in the region we're not seeing that now. we've gone up about $5 from $65 a barrel trading today to around
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$70. they believe the price will come back down below $70 unless we get more uncertainty out of the region, more attacks that could only be brief i think one of your guests earlier did say that's just going to stoke demand if you have oil prices above $70 a barrel i think the question is around opec what does opec do next opec meets in march. they agreed on deeper cuts at the last meeting i think it will be difficult to lock people into cuts. if you're an african nation, you have higher production cost and you look at $70 a barrel, let's pump every bit we can. >> let's talk about whether or not iran will actually use oil as a weapon in this case here. is it to their benefit to crank the spigots off?
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>> the people i've spoken to say no the people i spoke to in the region, experts around iran who have been looking at this situation for, in some cases, around 40 years, believe that's not the case i spoke to former energy minister and former opec minister over the weekend. he thinks oil won't be targeted. he thinks oil supply from the region will continue he went to his first opec meeting in 1972. he said in his career, very rarely has oil for a long period of time been disrupted out of the region he could only name a couple of occasions and these were huge flash points, major wars all indications fromi irania recommend eej seem to be the targets aamerican installations. will they want to international this conflict, escalate it to a global scale in that that's a very big bet to make.
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futures pointing to another down day this morning as investors digest the latest news in the u.s./iranian tension situation. there's a broad flight to safety right now. as you can see there gold prices on the rise. ten-year note yields are falling as prices for government bonds go up as well. big questions are now lingering on investors' minds. what does this latest middle east tension and flareup mean for jay powell and the fed
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let's talk about this with richard fisher thank you for joining us this morning. does this at all scare you i mean, this idea here that geopolitical tensions are rising and will the fed need to respond in some way, shape or form >> i don't think it has any impact on the fed directly and i do think it's important the fed just be the responsible adult in the room, keep a steady hand, stay on course reaffirm the fact that the economy is doing relatively well still expanding. driven by consumer spending. the manufacturing is sector comes and goes reach pmis were much stronger than people expected but the other source of pmi measurement was not quite as strong. i think it's important the fed keep a steady hand i dope don't think this impacts them directly. rates have come down in a sensitive part of the yield curve, which is the ten-year all in all, i think what this
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entire event does is underscore the relative safety and attractiveness of the u.s. economy. i mean, look around the world. if you look at the energy complex, we benefit in the united states from this because we have the permian basin. as was pointed out in the earlier interviews you just had, this encourages people to produce a little more here west texas is up brent is up. we're still an island of stability in the global economy. if you look around the rest of the world, obviously the middle east is in tension, latin america is a mess, australia is on fire, europe is beset by a weak manufacturing sector. i think what this ultimately does is underscore the fact that the u.s. economy and the u.s. markets are the best place to be and that's a good thing for the central bank. >> i want to hit on that point with you i want you to take a listen to something that current sitting
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dallas fed president robert kaplan told our steve liesman, the idea that the u.s. is in a very different situation with regard to its energy profile >> i think you would have gotten a different reaction ten years ago. certainly 20 years ago and i thinking it's indicative of the united states now producing 12 million barrels a day where we rival russia and saudi arabia in terms of energy production, we're much more energy self-sufficient >> dallas fed presidents are always keenly aware of the energy markets, as you are and have been in your past does the u.s. economy get threatened at all by any kind of geopolitical tension or is it just this island of safety, like you said >> well, you always have to be on guard we always have to be alert we could be attacked again the fact is that we -- everybody else -- remember, money is relative it goes to the most attractive spot relative to the rest of the world, we're in the prime position here in the united states, separated by oceans,
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having the permian basin, having an entrepreneurial culture, consumer, full employment, still positive economic growth i agree with my friend, rob. he's a great successor to me, and as you know the dallas has the most unique and important insights of anybody in the entire system. i'm kidding. but i still think it's a good point he made. the whole energy complex has changed and relatively speaking, we are energy independent. that makes us a unique place in the world. >> take us behind the boardroom doors at the fed right now, richard. what are the things that jay powell and the team at the fed going to be talking about the most in the coming months given the recent slate of events that have unfolded in the past few weeks? >> again, they've been working on trying to come up with a new framework of expression, provide the right forward guidance they paused here which is very
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important. it gives them time to breathe. they have a period here where they signaled they're unlikely to do anything allow themselves to go back and examine themselves what kind of forward guidance should we give how is the economy doing what are we missing here how do we really talk the market into finding us less sgedepende on us and more dependent on the fundamentals of the economy. i think we have a nice period of calm from the central bank they have a meeting coming up fairly soon. that will be the new voting structure for on the committee, but i do think overall jay powell has managed to pull everybody together here, made it clear, it's time to be calm. it's time to just think and reflect. and figure out how we're going to express ourselves going forward without being too disruptive and never disruptive to the real economy even though the markets may become volatile depending on what we say and do. i would love to be at the table
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right now because less panic mode and more of a settling in and just being calm and reassuring >> we appreciate it. a trade we're watching the oil markets and the dallas fed. richard fisher squawk box" begins right now. president trump threatening dozens of military and cultural sites if iran takes revenge. oil is higher. stock futures are falling again this morning new details on carlos ghosn's escape from tokyo. japanese officials breaking their silence overnight. plus, netflix falling short at last night's golden globes, winning in just two categories after a whopping 17 nominations. it's monday, january 6, 2020 and "squawk box" begins right now.
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good morning, everybody. welcome back to "squawk box" on cnbc we are live from the nasdaq market site in times square. let's take a look at the u.s. equity futures at this hour. as joe mentioned, we are looking at red arrows once again the dow futures indicated down by 180 points. s&p futures are down by almost 20 the nasdaq off by 66 this comes after the markets saw their worst day in a month on friday again, concerns about the potential retaliation for what we saw happen last week in iraq. that is what has people on edge this morning let's take a look at what's happening happening at the treasury markets at this point it looks like yields are continuing to come under pressure right now the ten-year is at 1.75%. the
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