managed by nature, a gregarious animal, and people like to be with each other. i certainly get phone calls from people about how frustrated and depressed they are that they cannot get together with friends to talk about the market, the economy, life in general, so that is there. but i think because this was so widespread, bob, that the sense of relief, the opening sense of relief, has shown a bit of a more aggressive rebound than certainly i thought and i think several others will it turn too a v-shaped rebound i'm not entirely sure, but it certainly was stronger and more emotional than i and many of us thought. >> art, it's carl. to bob's question about the disconnect between the markets and the social unrest, i'm not trying to date you, but i think

in 1964 you were already a member of the nyse and i wonder either in '64 or '68, did that disconnect feel as profound as it feels right now >> it did. thank you for remembering. yes, i was there in swadling clothes, but certainly in '64 to some degree and '68 was a terrible era in which the demonstrations, again, turned partially economic with looting and other things and that resulted in major city riots, some of what we're hearing about today, the national guard coming in, and that then did morph into a bit of an economic setback as the economy struggled. it didn't plunge the stock market, but it set the economy

back and major cities like detroit and newark and others actually have not come back from the response they had to the social unrest in '68 and so on let us hope that it is nowhere near that, yes, i've been around long enough to have that memory, and that's why i can tell you for now, it looks a little bit less spontaneous and more structural in that certain interest groups seem to be involved should that change, then i think it would have a major impact on the economy. i think what we've got to look at here, the stock market probably in an area where the averages are due for a bit of a rest if that rest turns into a pullback then things are turning differently. you're right to remember the '60s were a dreadful time

social logically and it did have an impact on the market. >> art, thanks as always, good to talk to you hopefully in person soon. bob, we'll talk to you later as well bob pisani >> thank you both. good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk alley." i'm carl quintanilla with morgan brennan and jon fortt. watching the markets on day again as we've been saying with art in the past few moments not really taking in the pictures and national trauma of the past 72 hours, jon, although some of the weakness in the nasdaq here with a 60-point decline, names like facebook and zoom, not doing well, that's raising some eyebrows. >> it is though both of those names have been doing quite well at a time when that doesn't necessarily reflect the national mood with protests in the street, racial strife, economic suffering kind of reminding everybody what the market does and doesn't measure, carl. i guess that's where we begin.

facebook's ceo mark zuckerberg hosted a video call with civil rights leaders to discuss ongoing issues around his company's policies related to race and other topics. our next guest was on that call, the executive director of color of change, which is an -- >> thanks for having me. >> i'm looking through and see among the things color of change is advocating for is specific changes to police policies and accountability calling for the officers who killed george floyd to be charged with murder. calling for the officers who killed breonna taylor to be fired and charged and the president to be removed from twitter, not just his tweets flagged by the way so kicking off there, if i've got that right, what is it exactly you want facebook to change >> well, the -- our issues with facebook have been years in the making you know, a number of years ago

we first started our advocacy and engagement with facebook when they started to have these relationships with law enforcement where in a warrantless way they would turn off facebook live during interactions a young woman in baltimore was killed after her facebook live was turned off and we had no sort of video. we've had a lot of issues with people being harassed and stalked by law enforcement and others, people kind of hate groups showing up to people's homes because of facebook interactions and facebook not doing anything about it. a couple of years ago, it was revealed in "the new york times" that actually facebook hired this pr firm called definers to launch a sort of anti-semitic smear campaign against my organization and our donors as sort of a kind of retaliation for some of the advocacy while at the same time we have been at the table face to face for years i've been meeting with mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg and other leaders at facebook and have pushed

policies there are current civil rights audit as a result of demands we have made and we have participated in that audit and we've worked with them to actually get policies in place the challenge is, is getting a company to put policies in place that they then don't enforce. >> okay. >> one of the problems has been both in terms of their policies around the census and voting, the four corners of their policy which sort of speak to disinformation and misinformation, when donald trump tweets out direct things that are lies about vote by mail and facebook leaves those things up, it violates those policies and why have the policies in the first place? >> so is it more a matter you're saying, rashad, of wanting them to follow good policies that they already have in place versus having new policies and what about your call to remove the president from twitter, jack dorsey and twitter have flagged his tweets when there's controversy over let's

say the truthfulness of the content, is that along the lines of what you're looking for from facebook as well or looking for a total removal of voices like that >> well, here's the thing. if regular citizens can get removed from social media sites for inciting violence from harassment, then the most -- we have to actually have a standard for the most powerful person in the world whose harassment and attacks can lead to the type of deep levels of violence that we sort of know to the sort of issue the question around whether or not it's new policies or enforcement it's both. we have advocated for a certain set of policies and, you know, in some places have been rebuffed, but when facebook has moved to actually put policies in place and then they don't actually deal with those policies, don't enforce those policies, that becomes a deeper issue. we have sat at the table and we

have been trying to push, trying to engage back and forth flights back when we were flying to molino park, long phone calls, memos back and forth, working with other civil rights leaders on this. i've had dinner at mark's house. i think it's important for those who are watching to know this is not some is knee jerk reaction in the middle of a crisis. this is a representation of work we thought we had done together and then when the crisis hits, some of the things that we had achieved, some of the policies that we had moved, have been thrown out the window. mark zuckerberg talked to donald trump right before they decided not to actually remove the content from facebook platforms that donald trump had put out around shooting protesters he isn't call civil rights leaders on the other side and talk about the civil rights implications when we've had conversations about voting rights and -- what

becomes clear is that mark zuckerberg probably knows as much about civil rights and about voter suppression as i know about sort of -- the sort of deep intricacies of coding and building the sort of technological back end of a social media platform. this is a company that is sort of the largest public square that we have in the country, in the world to that extent, and it's controlled by a private person he has 60% of the shares i spoke at the last facebook shareholders meeting, one of the few outside speakers at that meeting, and one of the things i spoke to was the lack of diversity, lack of civil rights expertise on their board they've had folks like ken chennault and others leave the board and meanwhile we know the impact that facebook had on the last election when russian outsiders used the platform to

stoke racial fears and racial sort of animus among communities. part of the challenge -- >> yeah. >> part of the challenge here is a platform that has 2.3 billion users, more followers than christianity, and really has no rules that it's playing by and that creates a challenge for all of nous a democracy and in an economy where we need big companies. >> yeah. >> big institutions to have rules of the road. >> yeah. and certainly those are key points when you're talking about one person being a controlling stake holder, and there are billions of users. i wonder is this the company you're most focused on right now in erms it of your efforts or are you engaged in conversations with other businesses as well and what do those look like? >> absolutely. we've spent a lot -- especially just from the -- in an ongoing way, color of change is one of the signatures of our work is a level of corporate accountability we spend a lot of time

recognizing not just the role of government but the role of corporate america in dictating the rules of society part of the sort of work of mobilizing our millions of members is, is to make sure that government and corporations are more responsive. that requires us to work on the inside and outside it requires us to have a level of researches capacity and the ability to monitor these things. we've worked with twitter and pushed twitter on their policies we've pushed them on policies around disinformation and misinformation on their platform and both facebook and twitter during the coronavirus crisis have responded by removing a lot of disinformation and misinformation from their platform, things like black people couldn't really get the virus which was spreading quickly in the early days of the virus and now we know how dangerous something like that was, things like lupus drugs could cure coronavirus, when we know that black women are more likely to have lupus and we saw

lupus drugs flying off the shelves and for people who needed those drugs not being able to get access to them >> rashad, i want to get the other -- i want to get another question to you and it's around i believe you've raised concerns about the heritage foundation being part of facebook's kind of internal policing around political bias and my question is about first amendment and social media platforms you've talked about facebook as the biggest public forum, not just in the country but in the world. given that, even a voice that you disagree with from the other side of the political spectrum, why shouldn't they be included not in necessarily controlling what gets posted but having their voice heard with concerns in what gets posted. >> we've never asked for heritage foundation to be removed from facebook. it's just not -- we have though

pushed back. >> not from facebook but on their sitting on a policing board having oversight over political posts? >> yeah. i mean i think we have to question what are -- who are the folks that get to police content. we're not asking to be on that board either to be clear, so if we were asked we would decline we actually think that there are -- that part of this is the way in which facebook is really trying to avoid government regulation by placating itself to certain government conservative forces, by refusing to actually be sort of a kind of arbiter. this is the problem when private companies are -- and private companies that control far too much of the public's space get to dictate the terms the fact of the matter is, is that at the end of the day, regardless of what facebook does or doesn't do with its policies -- and this is not just about heritage foundation,

right, they have breitbart, they have used, you know -- allowed platforms to monitor what is media and not and that are platforms that have stoked misinformation and kind of violent rhetoric that has attacked various communities, part of this is them actually having a standard for all of this, but part of this is that tech companies don't have a set of modern rules. the rules that tech companies are following right now are rules that were written before we actually had social media platforms. i remember a couple of years ago when we engaged facebook around their sponsorship of the republican convention as donald trump was rising and he was saying things like if he didn't win the nomination there was going to be violence on the floor. we were asking facebook what did they think about that and facebook said to us they were a media platform and so they had to be at the convention just the same way that, you know, cnbc and msnbc and cnn had to be

there for equal time and we thought okay, great. you are a media platform and then a couple years later mark zuckerberg goes to the capitol hill and testifies and says oh, no, we are not a media platform we should not be regulated like a media platform. >> that is an inconsistency like you're saying that we're seeing from facebook and a number of these other platforms as in certain situations they want to be media platforms and in others they don't that's part of the section 230 conversation for sure. yours is a perspective that people need to hear, especially in these times thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. meantime nasa astronauts bob ben kan and doug hurley and xhis kris cassidy becoming the first people ever to ring the nasdaq opening bell from space this morning. just before the bell, nasdaq's ceo asked the astronauts about spacex and the ongoing private

space race take a listen. >> you are the first people to fly crew dragon. the idea is that spaceships like this will enable people to become private astronauts, to make space flight more common. what are your thoughts about making space flight common and accessible to private citizens and the role you're playing in that development >> we think that the more people that get to fly to space the better off we'll be as a species and the better off individuals will be going forward. it's really transformational when you examine income into sp look at our planet and see how fragile it is and it does change you to the better. the more we expose to this the better off we'll be as a species. >> we'll have more sound from the iss from my own exclusive interview with the astronauts coming up later in the show. carl >> all right morgan, that was fantastic this

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preparing to launch into space what's called the overview effect that astronauts typically achieve when they accomplish their first space flight and look back at the earth and realize there are no boundaries or borders really observable from space for the most part you see that it's a single planet with a shared atmosphere, our shared place in this universe an so i think that perspective as we go through things like the pandemic or we see the challenges across our nation or across the world and recognize that we all face them together >> that was bob behnken joined by chris cassidy joined us from the international space station on "squawk on the street" exclusively to talk about their special you could call it literally view of the world right now as we here on earth go

through some of these different challenges that we are talking about and covering and facing on a daily basis and, of course, coming on the heels of that historic launch via a spacex rocket and spacecraft this weekend from kennedy space center, sending those -- two of those three nasa astronauts from lower earth orbit to the space station for the first time from u.s. soil in nine years. we covered a lot of ground and that included, of course, how the actual ride was and how that compared to the space shuttle that both behnken and hurley have taken to space before in the past we also talked about the commercialization of space and how quickly that could come, what that could look like, space tourism and what it will mean for non-professionals who haven't been training their whole lives to be able to pull g force and go into space and come back and then, of course, what it was like to work so closely

with spacex and specifically with elon musk who they told us basically would give the green light on design ideas or suggest isions that they made to crude dragon as it was developed for this very mission. >> i wonder what you think the future is for a space flight, commercial and otherwise, given the tensions, the fighting that we see among factions here in the u.s. because on the one hand, part of the impetus for the space program was the cold war and competition with the soviets on the other it was this force that was supposed to pull the nation together, give that overview effect, like the astronauts talked about perhaps and right now that sort of unity seems to be lacking. >> yeah. and i think that was very much

what not only the trump administration but also nasa and spacex and everyone else that was involved in these efforts last week were hoping for, that this would be despite all the chaos and turmoil we're seeing play out in different ways across this country right now, this would be a unifying moment. i do hope and believe just as we heard from those astronauts this morning, that that will continue to be the case where the space program is concerned and, of course, the role not only the public sector but the private sector is now playing in all of these efforts to go to space, i think is going to make a very big difference and, of course, from an investor standpoint you are seeing it play out in the space names publicly traded this week as well carl >> yeah. it's going to be private money that's going to have to deliver a lot of that because of the public money thig address a bunch of other issues. >> absolutely. >> speaking of which, when we come back on later this morning, we're going to talk to actor and activist sean penn over ten years ago he co-founded

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welcome back, everyone i'm sue herrera. here's your cnbc news update at this hour. after another night of violent protests and property damage, new york city is now extending its 8:00 p.m. to 5:00

a.m. curfew through sunday the national guard says it now has 18,000 troops helping police in 29 states and while the u.s. military has increased protection around the pentagon and u.s. bases in washington, a senior defense official tells reuters no active duty troops have been deployed in the nation's capital they are on standby outside the city. democratic presidential candidate joe biden says the protests over george floyd's death are a wake-up call for america. >> i can't breathe i can't breathe. george floyd's last words, but they didn't die with him, are still being heard, echoing all across this nation it's a wake-up call for all of us >> that's the update this hour jon, i'll send it back to you. thank you. two big interviews to come

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cities being torn apart again, markets floating around 25,500 s&p 3050 to 3060 with some energy names, caterpillar, american express and dow leading the industrials. we're back after aho bak srtre it's hard to eat a whole pizza.

but a slice is just right. that's why fidelity offers dollar-based trading. buy what you want based upon how much you want to spend, even if it's just a slice of a share. welcome back business leaders increasingly responding to the protests and violence that have rocked the nation on sunday the ceo of servicenow bill mcdermott tweeted as president kennedy said in 1963, let's realize that violence only bre breeds more violence and goodwill and good faith are most important now. bill mcdermott of servicenow joins us now bill, good to see you. >> nice to see you, jon. thank you for having me on. >> great to have you

i want to start with your message as ceo of servicenow you've been talking recently, writing about the importance of communicating, over communicating internally to employees at a time like this, but what is servicenow's either responsibility or opportunity in communicating externally about this are there lines that you want to be careful not to cross? >> i thank you very much for the question, jon. first of all i would like to i say my heart as well as the hearts of all servicenow colleagues go out to the families of briann no taylor, ahmaud ar berry and george floyd. we ache for them and mourn their passing and it is a sad situation. i believe that it's not time to

be silent. i believe it's time to have a voice and it's time to do something. i think we have to accept the situation for what it is, but we have to now care for people, not just listen to people, but actually hear what people are saying and obviously take steps to change this situation in america and business can play a key role in that and servicenow intends to >> and i wonder from a product perspective, part of what servicenow does is get information from the workforce, from the customer base and figure out where there are problems, how to fix them and let people know that they've been fixed it's great for that kind of analysis, i suppose. how has this covid-19 crisis and perhaps even the challenges of managing a company in this fractured society, how have those influenced your product direction right now?

>> jon, as you know the workforce today is different than three, five, or ten months ago. we're now in the midst of a work flow revolution. we had to react crickly to covid-19 on an emergency response basis that was only march. now we're in a situation where people have to have the opportunity to come back to the office there's a lot of families out there with dual income earners, children, elderly care issues, there are a lot of issues that have resulted from covid and we have to deal with those. servicenow has taken an active role to introduce four applications that will be game changers for businesses all over the world. the first is do we have a wor r workforce that's ready to come back have we asked the people all the things they need to come back? do we have testing in place to

keep people safe have we configured the offices to allow for social distancing and the w.h.o. and cdc protocols for cleanliness in these offices so people are safe do we also have ppe inventory management if you think about offices, floors, departments, ships, you have to have the visibility on a sheet of glass for how you're managing through bringing folks back to the office i tell people, this is not only an opportunity to do good and get people back to work, which is critical to solving some of the world's problems, but it's going to be a major liability issue if you don't provide safety and wellness opportunities for your people. that's where we're at. what's different about servicenow, jon, and everybody else out there, we're actually delivering these already at mass scale. we had 6,000 companies running

on the emergency response. we already have 1,000 plus that have downloaded the new return to workplace application we really feel that work flow is the new frontier in enterprise computing. >> bill, it's great to have you on i really appreciate the kennedy quote as well in part because when i graduated college i wrote a 65 page thesis as an anthropology major focused on living in a conflict zone and the role that violence was playing to overshadow and take away from critical an key and important and justified issues playing out in that specific society and i see what's happening now and worry we're on a similar precipes as the ceo of a major company how do you find a voice and strike that balance, especially given the fact that we are talking about topics and

challenges that are incendiary, getting politicized, and could threaten i guess some of the dialog with not only workforce but with customers >> anything worth communicating, morgan, is always under communicated at a time like this you have to over communicate and be honest and open with your company and the public servants that can straighten things out. we spent quite a bit of time on that right now we have a position paper together at the national, state and local level for some of the things we at servicenow would like to do, which is to really focus on diversity in all ways and how we can recruit, train and certify from some of the schools that have been under represented, for example, information technology, a lot of wealth has been created in

silicon valley, but it hasn't been equally distributed we would like to do something about that a company like ours has a large ecosystem. we have 11,400 jobs in our company, but our ecosystem is ten times that size. what can we do in partnership with other companies and how can we be a catalyst in the public and private partnership to really do good and really drive results. it is a time for results one of the real hallmarks of servicenow is our hungry and humble culturend at purpose of making the world work better for people and to make the world work better for people it has to be available to all people and we have to create opportunities for everybody. yesterday i had reggie jackson join my management meeting and reggie is a great friend of mine and he was talking about coming up in the minors in the '50s and '60s and when he played pro ball and what it was like fighting racism and how we

overcame that. he told a story which i thought was moving, talked about playing for the new york yankees and he said, you know, what does it take to be reggie jackson in the summer when you've already got 100 games behind you and it's 100 degrees outside and he said, you know, my neck hurts, i'm hot, my wrist is really sore and thurmond munson catcher of the yankees yeah mine too, my back hurts as well and ron gidry was pitching that day and said i can barely stand but we're in this thing together it shows you we're in this thing together and we have to really work together and it's possible. >> bill, finally, i recently talked to peat gel singer here a cnbc and said tech will do better than gdp here, software will do better than tech i wonder if you agree with that and what lasting changes for the likes of servicenow you expect to come out of this difficult

period for the overall global economy. >> you know, jon, as you remember from the crisis itself at that time ceos were trying to protect their revenue, they obviously wanted to protect their people and their jobs an the crisis was a pretty scary thing because they really couldn't see around the corner to where the crisis would be next now there's a little bit more visibility and what ceos want is speed. everything is about a need for speed. they've got to drive innovation very quickly, they've got to provide exceptional experiences for their people, and they obviously have to provide great experiences for their customers. you know, one of the companies that i'm featuring in my keynote tomorrow is disney if you think about a great company like disney getting hit with covid, theme park, cinemas, other than michael jordan and

"the last dance" there wasn't a lot going on on espn but they opened up disney plus and have 55 million users which they did on servicenow, customer service management. >> right. >> in five had months. and what's interesting, jon, is virtual agents now on a direct to consumer level of taking care of those customers so the humans get involved when they have to just think about how much faster they are. >> that is powerful. >> think about that speed and productivity. >> that is powerful, indeed. >> jon, work flow, jon, is the big idea it's the new frontier and servicenow is the leader in work flow and that's what companies want, fast roi and they really want to rewire the complexity in these companies for action >> looking forward to have you back on to talk more about that. thank you, bill mcdermott. >> any time, jon thank you, sir we're going to take a quick commercial break stay with us it's hard to eat a whole pizza. but a slice is just right.

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our next guest's efforts to offer free covid testing in cities like los angeles was halted by security concerns, of course, with the riots and protests over the past couple days leds to this tweet questioning why we still have not done away with racism in this country. oscar winning actor sean penn co-founder of the community organized relief effort. sean, welcome to the program and it's good to see you thanks for the time today. >> thank you very much good to be here. >> i want you to talk about some of the efforts you were doing

with covid relief, how they've been interrupted and are you seeing any signs that the spike in cases that we sort of expected as these lockdowns were lifted have come or not come >> well, what we know watching these tracking -- this tracking slow down there's been no slow down of the virus transmission in terms of its natural course other than that that has been put back by the wearing of masks and distancing i think the big story and what we have to remember is the whole term flattening the curve really had to do with surge capacity at hospitals and that we didn't want to overwhelm the health system that is not the same as the transmissibility of the disease being abated so we are on a continued path, probably for most americans to get covid-19 if we don't make some quick changes as far as the test sites we took

a brief pause yesterday and today on several of the sites. in los angeles we continue at dodger stadium to test about 3800 people yesterday. the volunteers are chomping at the bit to get back on-site. i think we will do that all sites tomorrow that's not just in los angeles, but across california and throughout our sites in the united states at large >> prior to the -- sean, i hope you'll stay with us for just a moment here. the president is making an appearance at the shrine of pope john paul ii, of course, after his detour outside of the white house following that rose garden appearance -- >> yeah. after breaking up the protesters that were peaceful, yes. >> yeah. tear gas in lafayette square it's been well documented by now, sean. i mean to what degree are you looking to national leaders, not just the president, for

solutions not just to the pandemic, but now the racial unrest that we're witnessing in this country >> yeah. you know, there's an incredible interview with cornell west last night with brian williams on msnbc and i would direct everyone to it this is one of the great poetic heart souls the world has known and he was crying out for leadership i look to leadership where i see it i see it in young people, i see it in the is volunteers on our test site and the peaceful protesters but we need -- but those strong, clear voices and the focus on the real protests and the true protesters and not on those fringe groups that are, you know, doing these ridiculous things and criminal things, is what i think the media has a great responsibility to. but i don't know that we're going to get to -- i'm waiting for these young leaders to start to tell us that, you know, older people, who are we going to

boycott? are we going to boycott mount santo, boycott facebook, your previous guest talked about what a great company disney is. last i checked disney paid a minuscule settlement after an alligator ate a baby at the theme park this has got to be a brand new sense of corporate responsibility it's time that country make a radical shift, have the courage to make a radical shift. we see extraordinary people like jack dorsey with twitter where, you know, managing a board and all the difficult things any kind of major corporation gives up a third of his own equity to start moving into a direction that changes the way that we think about things and i think, you know, that companies have to make an equity investment. we see the business as usual is all that's being boasted let's use our company as it is to profit our company to save the world, i'm skeptical and

cynical about that look where it's gotten us. i think that this is an extraordinary moment to see, you know, who's at play can make this world more equitable to give what politics should be defined give what politics should be defined as an offering and support of quality of life no matter what color or creed, religion you are. >> yeah. sean, as we're talking here and watching the president do this photo op we should remind people that the archdiocese says that i find any catholic facility would be so misused and ma miplated in fashion that violates our religious principles which call us to defend the rights of all people even those with whom we might disagree i want to get that on the record as we look at those photos sean, you mentioned facebook and

other companies that are focussed more on their balance sheets and stock buy backs than their content. we do have nikes of the world, starbucks, bank of america is investing a billion dollars in the next four years on economic opportunity. how do you encourage those companies to not just issue a statement over the weekend but put money behind it and stick with it over years >> i think one of the things they also have to do and, yes, we're praises is due, we should praise they need to group representatives on the street to communicate what it is exactly they are offering to support those who will take that in and to allow themselves dignity to move forward in this country that we share. it's really about getting clear word to the common man that's really what it's about.

that doesn't mean the uneducated it means there is so much noise. there's so much disruption, so much d di devisiveness if corporations are going to partner with these kids on the street, black, white, brown, whatever, they're going to have to clearly message what they're doing. when we look at something like facebook that is clearly sending a message, as i said in a tweet, that when we get through all of this, they are going to facilitate the freedom of speech the scream fire in a movie theater filled with your children and mine. this is a blatant, cynical business move. if we continue to consume this stuff and participate in it, then as cornell west said, we'll

just leave it to the cockroac s cockroaches. >> sean, good morning. it's john fort i wonder if you think that this crisis that we're going through right now, the pandemic that we're trying to recover from, the civil strife as well, is that going to change hollywood in any lasting way and should it >> i think you can look at hollywood as a microcosm,as th whole thing. we see commentary on it. hollywood is easily over celebrated and just as easily dismissable. i can't speak for hollywood. what i can say is historically when we have gone through these kinds of difficult times, it has led to more expressive cinema, less razzle-dazzle if there's an importance in talking about films impact, it's

that it -- it happens with other things going on at the same time other good movements and direction. the poetry we need to offer politics isn't restricted to the movie heater it's every single individuals responsibility to participate. we got to get very focused on what we will do to get to the ballot box or make sure that mail inballots are acceptable and not contested. this is the vote of anyone's lifetime before or since this is really where we make or break. >> thank you for your time, of your efforts, for the covid relief that core continues to deliver wp we hope to talk to you again. >> thanks very much.

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leersd and leading figures in the solidarity movement who told polish labor leaders who were rebelling against their communist government that they should not be afraid that message taken to heart by the solidarity movement and taken to heart by polish figures across the country in their fight against communism. now john paul ii name being invoked in a very different political context and stoking some political and religious controversy of its own we'll see whether the president has anything to say to the cameras when he emerges from the facility we're told not to expect any remarks in the present back over to you >> interesting trudeau in canada says the canadians are watching with horror and consternation with what's happening in the u.s. also some comments about russia's participation in the

g-8 or g-7 he says the chair, the u.s. can inviets guests to a summit but cannot change membership or format on a permanent basis. we'll continue to watch the movements of the president welcome to the halftime report the markets and your money as america finds itself at a cross roads. from social unrest to the ongoing pandemic and the abilities of stocks to keep looking forward. our question though for how long let's do as we always do to start our show show you where the markets are trading. it's a mixed picture