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u just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪ welcome back i'm melissa lee. this is "power lunch." stocks wiping out early results. the dow turning positive for the month of july up about 300 points netflix hitting an all time high as goldman sachs gives it the higher price target on the street can tech continue to dominate? power player, charles barkley is here as the nba is restarting
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its season in orlando despite record coronavirus outbreaks in that state "power lunch" starts right now thanks the banks and the energy are out performing today as tech takes a breather the nasdaq still up 5% in two weeks. bob has more on today's market >> we're at the highs for the day. we're close to a bit of a break out. monday's close, which was the high was 31.79 we're five or six points away from that. why would it be significant if we get over that that's highest level since the june highs we had. we're looking for a modest little break it's a good way the close the week out if we can do that banks are out performing haven't heard that in a long time, have you it's not going to reverse the down trend for the banks but it's nice to see a bit of out performance today. citigroup, jpmorgan and wells
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fargo reporting on tuesday it's not going to reverse the trends that's good reason for the bank woes out there we've been talking about them a lot in the last couple of weeks. we had capital conconstraints. none of that is good news for the banks. we do get positive growth. i want to show you viveisa verss the s&p 500. this will reflect a slow down in spending as people go out. that reopening story again, much tougher than it was a couple of weeks ago looking a lot more like a w in terms of stock market than any kind of v. back to you. >> thank you our next guest says tech is your best bet amid rising coronavirus cases and as we get closer to
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what's shaping up to be an uncertain election is this the winningsector no matter what the scenario if we do have a v shaped bounce or if we do have sort of a pull back lower. te >> i think tech could do well if the market pulls back. y i think the one scenario where tech would start to under perform would be the best case for the overall economy where you have a vaccine or some other breakthrough that leads people to be much more optimistic about the economy. unfortunately, that's not our base case which means we still
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think in either grinds higher or in a pull back tech is likely to out perform the broader market >> ron, there are a lot of potential head winds in the coming weeks we have earning season we'll be awaiting companies guidance if they have any clarity for the back half of the year we're awaiting whether or not congress will pass more stimulus by the end of the month before they go to recess and looks like a widening chasm between republicans and democrats that could make it for difficult for something to be passed >> i think they get some motivation for what we're seeing as a pull back in the economy and reopenings of states around the country whether it's california, florida, texas, arizona, big states, big economy states you've got that. i would disagree a bit with russ on the market. the s&p and the unweighted s&p which would adjust for those really big names that have driven the s&p 500 higher is as
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wide a gap as we have seen in history. the disparity between the nasdaq 1400 and the s&p is extraordinarily large in terms of performance this year 22 percentage points i've even more worried this week than in the last three this market is well over due for a pull back. i think will be not only the disappointing earnings and lack of guidance but this extremely jagged recovery and concerns about whether or not it will be a consensus on stimulus. >> why can't that condition persist in this environment? >> i mean i guess it can it's hard to use valuations and kind of these historic cal relations as a timing tool for when the market is due for some sort of pull back. i see a lot of excess in the market it's true they are earning money and have free cash flow. i think this market is extraordinarily stretched even with rates low
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even if the economy should show some signs of resurrection which it's not doing >> i'm wondering how you value the market and whether or not anyvaluation of this matter really matters in that the earnings estimates, i don't know, i think they are probably baloney in terms of what analysts can see what ceos and companies can see and forecast for the rest of this year or next year, for that matter >> i think that's fair you have less visibility than any point in our lifetime. i think there's a couple of things we can rely on. it's not that valuation doesn't matter it matters a great deal. it doesn't matter in the near term even in a normal recession, when you look at p/e ratios at the
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bottom or close to the bottom, they will always look inflated you need to use a more robust valuation metric we have been looking at long term cash flows going out 30 years. i don't think the market is as overvalued as it appears on normal metrics going back this question about tech when you do those measures on tech it does not look that stretched. the rate environment favors long duration assets like technology. there's this question of quality and earnings consistency will be people value most in the environment of uncertainty they will value a strong balance sheet that gets you to the other side and value earnings consistency.
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those characteristics are founded in technology and health care this is part of the reason you're seeing that resilient strength even though a lot of these lines look off the charts. >> russ and ron, thank you >> thank you let's go to the bond market now. rick tractioning the action out for us in chicago. what do you see? >> if you look at the 24-hour chart you see a bit. about 5:00 in the morning, they were at 10 basis points. they are down about five on the week i would like to draw your attention to the fact that even though two year, five-year, 7-year were all in position to make new all time low yield closes, only one maturity did that the others are still in play but rates have firmed. bob was talking about the yield curve. there's a lot of ways banks can make money the yield curve may be one of those isolated by this dynamic
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of the variance between short and long term rate to that end, this chart is hovering near two month lows meaning at 47 basis points, yesterday's 46 close was the lowest close since the first week in may. melissa lee, back to you >> thank you check out some of the tech names hitting record highs amazon, nvidia, netflix, zoom video. plus charles barkley has his doubts about the nba restarting its season amid a surge in virus cases as practices gets under way in orlando l ins ghafr isth quick break. 300 miles an hour,
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welcome back we're just a few weeks away from seeing our favorite babble players go head to head for the 2020 championship. worries remain on how they will keep the virus out of the hot spot in that state it comes as the bigten announc it will go to a conference only season for all of its fall sports, potentially a huge hit coming up to talk to us more about all of these sports trends, charles barkley, he's join me and lia ghafr messrit te this stay with us this is decision tech.
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welcome back this weekend is the american century championship out in lake tahoe. one of the stars is none other than mr. charles barkley, the former nba mvp and who joins us to talk about the tournament, about the status of sports in this country and so much more. it's great to have you here. welcome. >> thank you for having me >> i know your tee time is literally a couple of minutes away so we'll take it right up until you have to run. what will happen with the nba bubble is this a disaster in the
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making >> i'm hopeful and optimistic but i think you have to be realistic. the chance that we can go three months without having an out break in the hottest spot in the country right now, i think you'll have to be foolish to think we can go the whole three months without any positive tests. then they'll have to make a decision whether to cancel the season or put the see on hiatus. we're all flying in the dark i don't think anybody knows what will happen. >> it's impossible to tell let me ask you something if you were one of these players, would you have any qualms about participating >> well, i think you have to look at the big picture if you're player. number one, if the season is cancelled, they're going to lose $2 billion the next couple of years. that's a lot of money for these players. that's their money and could put it back in their communities i think that's the main reason they have to play if it's possible >> yeah. there's a lot on the line. listen, the whole public, people
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would love to have these games return to get some sense of normalcy it's a difficult time. what is your -- i'm curious about the college sports too there's so much at stake i know you're a huge fan down south. the football seasons and what's going to happen there. what to you think? should they go ahead an give it a try and see if they can make it through or should we be showing more caution >> i think football has a huge advantage. they will get to the chance to see major league baseball, nba and hockey whether we'll have a great result or crash and burn football, college and pros have a couple more months before they have to make a decision. our teams are in florida now i know the hockey teams are starting soon. baseball starts next week. those football players, their organization have a huge advantage. they'll see how things go for us
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the next month before they have to make a decision we'll be like guinea pigs. >> you absolutely are. one of the other things that's happening with the seasons is the social justice messages. is there too much politics in sports >> what's happening now, we turn it into a circus we spend time worried about who is kneeling and who is not what's being said on buses i think we're missing the point. we need police reform. we need prison reform and we need -- those are number one and two things we need to focus on we need to good cops out there policing the bad cops.
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we need police reform an prison reform the media, we all got a job to do they will spend all their time on what's on somebody's jersey and what's on the buses and who is kneeling and whose not kneeling that's going to defeat the purpose. my concern is turning this thing into a circus instead of trying to do some good stuff. >> even if the media didn't focus on it, the players are choosing to have messages on their jerseys or not choosing. do you think in acountry in which things are so divisive now that maybe sports should be the one island where you can go and people can feel united because there isn't any controversy? >> i think it's a great question i really don't know the answer to that because, obviously, we are in a divided country and sports used to be a place where fans could get away from reality. now it's such a mixture. i think it's going to be
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fascinating watching what happens with the fans. the fans are going through the pandemic and they don't want to see a bunch of rich people talking about stuff all the time i think it's -- i don't think there's a right or wrong answer but these people all have lost their jobs they are struggling financially. they won't get their jobs back the last thing they want to do is turn on the television and hear arguments about stuff all the the time it's going to be interesting to see how the public reacts. >> what do you think, you mentioned how people need to get their jobs back. that's the number one thing for the whole economy. a lot of it has to do with their kids being able to go back to school how to you balance those risks what are your thauoughts on if it's safe enough for the kids to be back in the classroom i'm talking kids of all ages from college age right on down
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to kindergarten. >> you'll have to be a fool to think your kid will be safe at school now i don't think there's any way to start school i really don't i don't think it's fair to put those kids in that situation before we have a vaccine or know a lot more about covid also i think the one thing that is scary is we have a great disparity in this country between the rich and the poor. the one thing virus will do will mag nify it. some of the kids are talking about having 10, 12, 15 schoin school and the rest at home. a lot of kids don't have computers at home. that will make the gap explode more it's a crucial time in our country. i hope we get some adults that know what they are doing and stop screwing around and dividing the country
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>> don't hit patrick mahomes with your club >> i've been told he's the most valuable person here today i'll be careful. >> we'll be tuning in. >> thank you for having me have great day >> charles barkley let's get to seema mody. >> ceo arnold donald said nearly 60% of 2021 bookings are in first three weeks of june. it can break even at a reduced occupancy to accommodate social distancing on board. let's bring in the trading nation team here to discuss. mark, best performing stock on the s&p today but still down about 70% from its recent high
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>> carnival still looks like a gamble we don't know a whole lot. there's two charts to put this into perspective one is a daily it shows the stock down about 30% since june 8th the market has been down about 11%. you can make a good case for its risk reward and maybe the worst is behind us and the market is f forward looking. when you look at a weekly chart and monthly chart and put this into perspective and the stock is down over 75% in two and a half years it's a lot of uncertainty to want to own the stock long term.
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>> we have seen an improvement in the economic data is that bullish for the consumer and therefore the cruise lines as well? >> it may be slightly bullish for the consumer but when it comes to these types of companies they have a huge amount of debt on their balance sheet. they are lower quality companies. you want to look at the three rules of engagement. look at companies that are consistently growing, profitable, high quality companies that don't have a lot of debt on their balance sheet look at company like union pacific, for example or merck. those are value companies that haven't participated in the upswing. >> that's a good point thanks for joining us today. don't miss cnbc interview with arnold donald on closing bell. head to our website or follow us on twitter back to you. ahead on power lunch, colby
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college is planning to spend around 5 million dollar on covid testing in order to bring students and faculty back to campus the school's president joining us next. a ton of names hitting new highs. mark mahaney is listing his top plays. he'll share those names when power lunch returns.
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switch and save hundreds. xfinity mobile. welcome back here is your cnbc news update. tropical storm faye is nearing the coast. it's expected to drop two to four inches of rain from delaware to southern new england with maybe up to seven inches in
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some places. louisiana confirming 2600 new cases of covid-19 since yesterday. that's the second highest daily total since the pandemic began hospitalizations also rose and they are now above the level they were when the state began its reopening back in may. the american academy of pediatrics, two national teachers unions are pushing back from pressure against the white house to reopen schools. health experts should make recommendations based on evidence, not politics you're up to date. that's the news update this hour back do you. i don't know, faye seems to be right outside our window >> thank you
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shares of walmart are up 9% for the week kelly. pediatricians and teachers are pushing back against the president's plan to reopen schools. let's get to ylan with more on this story >> they are joining with teachers and school administrators to warn president trump against defunding education. in laa letter they wrote with holding funding for schools that do not open full-time would be a misguided approach putting almost financially strapped schools in an impossible position that could threaten the le health of students and teachers. they clarified that schools in covid hot spots should not be forced to open we know that president trump is no fan of virtual learning
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rerailed against it today on twitter and he wrote that schools must be open in the fall if not, why would the federal government give funding. it won't republicans and democrats have pointed to schools as being a critical component of the next coronavirus relief package what you're hearing from doctors today is it could cost more money, require a bigger federal investment to reopen schools safely back over to you >> it's complicated. i mean especially because are we supposed to have the science settled before we make this decision it has to be made now especially if schools are looking at expanding capacity and adding teachers and doing all these different programs >> that's exactly right. it's really a very difficult situation for parents and educators. >> thank you colleges nation wide are
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faced with challenge of reopening as the coronavirus cases rise in some cases colby college plans to have 2,000 students back on campus. the college is spending $10 million with more than half of that to cover 85,000 covid-19 tests in first semester alone. here to tell us more about it and to look at the path forward for education is daifrvid green, the president of colby college great to speak with you again. >> thank you >> you're saying that parents feel better sending their kids to colby than keeping them at home can you tell us about your testing regimen? >> you bet i live on campus as well and my son is a student here. i know how important it is to keep everybody safe every single day. we'll be doing a really multilayered plan for colby. testing is a central component of it but not the only component of it. we'll be testing everybody prior
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to their arrival we'll be testing them three times a week when they get here and two times a week every time tlo there after. the idea is to be able to identify people who might be infected before they are contagious that allows us to then quarantine those people, to contact trace and to isolate other individuals as we need to and that's going to really make a difference in terms of being able to ensure that when we have the virus on campus because we're sure we'll have it at times. it won't be spreading. >> have you looked at what's going on when it comes to students returning to campus for college sportss. i'm thinking about college football.
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what happens when there's a spike on campus if you have everybody back, how do you quarantine those students properly and what sort of precautions do you have in taking care of those students? >> you bet it's a great question. testing is not the only part of it we'll have people wearing facial coverings. we have social distancing in place. we're changing the way we're doing our dining we changed the way we're cleaning our campus. it's one part of an overall come prehenceprehensive here. if students are infected, they will be in the hotel we'll give them food, medical attention and allow them to take courses remotely during that time until they can test negatively on multiple occasions. we have plan in place that really is designed to be able to ramp up any kind of restriction that is important depending on what we see in terms of the
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virus on campus. we're restricting visitor, travel we're really locking down for the 3,000 members of our community, we are looking it down as much as possible >> how much more is this all costing you and are you going to be breaking even for the year this school year >> it's about $10 million investment overall but half of that is going into the testing if we do, we'll see. breaking even is not the most important thing. >> i get that you want to keep the students safe but the question goes to if you keep running the school at a loss, eventually providing the students with the best education possible will get more and more difficult if there's a budget shortfall. >> the good news on this is we have been hearing from all of our students and their families and they are coming back the vast, vast, majority of our students, we'll have students enrolled on campus
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we're not seeing a situation where enrollments are dwindling and people are not deciding to show up. we had about 30 students who said they are taking a levave. everybody else is planning on enrolling. >> what would your thought process be for high schools and younger kids and any sports at those levels who are trying to figure out what to do and maybe don't have your resources at hand >> it's very hard. this is where the u.s. government needs to step in and not say open or else they really need to think about how do we support you in all of this how can we help you have the testing that you need. how can we put the safety protocols in place how can we use the best science and best practices to allow you to carry out education because we do not want to see a generation that is left behind that seems like the single most important thing. sports are great but that's not the most important thing the education is what really matters for these students
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this is where the government needs to step up and help out. >> the last time we spoke to you was the end of may we have seen joblessness gone up >> when families have their need changed -- >> have you seen an increase in requests for financial aid >> we have we have seen it but it's been more marginal. we're seeing such a di vvide in the country and lower income wage earners are being affected the most for those families coming to
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colby, they are already getting a full financial aid program where they are paying very little, zero often for family contribution to be here. >> david, great to speak with you. thank you. >> thank you the oil market is closing for the day. let's check in >> oil prices climbing today with brent finishing the week in positive territory and wti just shy about flat on the week once again topping the big $40 level. the revised picture comes despite a record number of new coronavirus cases in the u.s. with the iea saying the oil market has made progress but noting the pandemic is not under control. while demand could continue to improve, supply is still saturated as the u.s. rig count falls the a record low for its tenth straight week. back to you. >> thank you here's what's ahead.
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we end with the stock benefitting from the spak craze. spartan rising for the second straight day after routers reported it's in talks coronavirus out breaks have caused shutdowns at meat packing plants throughout this process let's explain how some people are getting their steaks instead. >> well, kids, if you don't eat meat, don't watch. you'll about to find out how the sausage is made. most americans are eating meat they are turning to private butchers after buying the animals directly from the ranch. find out the whos, how and how much ♪ ♪ ♪
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with problems at meat packing companies, some are skipping the middleman and going to the butcher themselves. >> reporter: you know, they're very busy here now some folks have been buying their meat a long time this way. as supplies have run short and covid is shut down packing plants, more americans are going strictly to private butchers to get their meat you buy a whole or part of an animal from a rancher and a private butcher processes it for you. it's not mandatory to have a usda meat inspector here one does come. new businesses from new customers is way up. >> the slowest part of the year that i have every year is from march 1st until memorial day
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that's our slowest part of the year you could say it went up 100% with the covid >> reporter: i put on social media, who is doing this for the first time the response was incredible. a heard from a lot of people including james brown in north carolina who started doing this because he was concerned about the supply and the safety. >> we'll just be buying from this local producer from here o out. i have no intention of going back to the grocery store. >> reporter: the cost can be comparable because you're cutting out of a lot of the is up supply chain. a whole cow would range about 7 to $12 a pound. that's everything from filet to hamburger. >> say family of four, two growing boys, two adults how long will this cow last? i'm asking for a friend named sandy.
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>> reporter: i'm telling you, there is -- here is the short ribs here. there's so much meat on one animal, you will only have to buy one a year >> a year. >> reporter: i've learned a lot. having been in here, i've learned a lot. >> a year. no way >> i'm going to buy a cow if that's the case? >> reporter: can one cow per family of four, how long will it last >> at least a year >> you put it in flereezer, you get freezer burn. >> reporter: freezers are in short supply because people have been doing this. they are buying whatever meat they can >> how much does a cow cost? >> reporter: well, you're talking about 7 to 12 -- to buy a whole cow, 7 to $12 a pound. grain fed.
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how much does a whole cow cost you in. >> cost you about $7.98 a thing. >> the whole thing >> the animal and our truck. >> how much pounds off a cow >> about 480 >> about 00 ti500 times 7. >> about 3500 bucks. >> divided by 12 months, you're spending a little less than 300 bucks. >> i'm putting in amy order >> looks delicious >> you'll have a surge of interest from new jersey a whole year holy cow we're seeing a reversal of the recent trends. it's the dow leading the way the nasdaq is trailing behind technology one of the weaker sectors. top tech analyst will give us his best picks for the post-covid world next. you can watch or listen us to live on the go on the cnbc app we'll be rig bk. htac [squeaky shopping cart]
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welcome back we have a market flash onned video games hitting new highs today josh lipton has more for us josh >> so, kelly, check out the big video game publishers hitting new 52-week highs in today's trade. ac activision and blizzard. same goes for electronic arts. trading at levels we have not seen since the summer of 2018. and take two is actually trading here at all time high levels since the ipo. that was back in 1997. of course, investors bid up the stocks all year long betting as people stay home, look for in home entertainment due to the pandemic back to you. >> josh, thank you >> cloud company rack space filing for a new ipo second time entering the public market leslie picker has more on this
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>> hi. that's right in case you heard that story before, it's the second time apollo backed rack space disclosed the ipo pro inspectous today. they provide cloud services and post $2 billion in annualized reoccurring revenue. the first time they went public was in 2008. it was then acquired by apollo today's filing did not diz close the sides of the deal. reports indicate it could val unite company upward of $10 billion including debt so they're talking about the markets now. it's one of those things where we've seen a huge slew of ipo news this week we've seen news, of course, from rack space, another filing confidentially for their ipo and we heard from the parent of quicken loan that's is expected to have a multibillion dollar ipo as well. rack space does plan to list on the nasdaq with the ticker symbol rxt
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goldman sachs citigroup and jp morgan are managing this deal. guys >> all right leslie, thank you very much. leslie picker with the latest ipo filing this week now tech has been an unstoppable force lately the nasdaq is at record highs. now up nearly 18% this year. it is crushing the returns of the broader market amazon, nvidia, netflix all hitting record highs today and they have huge gains we're laying out which tech names are best positioned now and post pandemic. he joins us now. mark, welcome. >> hello. >> what is the main difference twenty name you like now and the names that you think will work post pandemic? >> i like netflix and amazon, so does everybody else. what i looking for are names that fundamentally that have not recovered. those are travel names they haven't so booking.com is one of our three top picks. and then the ride sharing names haven't recovered either
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they're still showing 75% year over year declines unless they are structurally flawed and we just are not going to uber like we have in the past, i think we will, if that happens, there is a recovery there. there is removal of overhangs. i think can you see a material rerating in uber like we've seen in some of the other stocks like spotify and then the one we also like in terms of the top three picks is facebook. i think people underappreciate how much of a v shape recovery opportunity there is in the internet ad space. >> so online travel, ride sharing, facebook, these are names you think should work for the remainder of the pandemic. what about that fact whenever we get there, we pray it's sooner than later what kind of investments you would recommend? >> i'm sorry, so let me try this those are what i would call recovery stocks. so i think the market already sort of anticipating what will work post the pandemic and sometimes will be pandemic on and off in the market.
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the best defensive stocks if we're going to continue and shelter in home, they go back to that in the future, those stocks are the ones that they figured out. there are streaming names like spotify and amazon online retail is the clear structural win look, we all have to keep shopping we're going to have to force to do it from home. and then all the other entertainment spend, all that is going into our online retail pocketbooks and wallets. so i think that's -- on line retail, the longer we stay in a pandemic, the stronger the retail will be and that will continue to lift names like amazon. >> mark, i want to ask you specifically about amazon. walmart announced it would be offering a subscription based service. and we saw shares of walmart climb 9% on the week on optimism surrounding that offering. and the potential business that would bring to walmart do you see that as a negative in any way to amazon or even just proof that there could be competitors out there that had not existed before
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>> yeah, melissa, that's a fair question i don't want to sound complaisant. i think it's too late. we did our annual survey work. we've done it for ten years now on amazon. and we're seeing an inflection up in prime subscribers. will amazon at the beginning of the year announced 150 million global prime subscribers we think they're going to end up close to 200 million about it end of this year it's maybe not too surprising that a lot of people on the cusp p buy from amazon but should i sign up for prime, you go through covid-19 where all the purchases shoot up, you sign up for prime. i think walmart trying to dent the prime program at this point is just too late they should have done this five to ten years ago >> and i also want to ask you about the impact the fallout from tiktok. we pinterest and snap rise is there a benefit if tiktok got band in the u.s. >> i think there would be. i don't think it will get banned that is out miff league.
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so, look, in terms of the demographic overlap, you know, it is very strong between tiktok, young people, gen z and snap chat. the overlap really is with things like youtube and instagram. and so either way, you shut down tiktok and it's been phenomenally popular based on work we've done, i think you'll have a lot of people looking for that functionality and flip over to the other sites i think it will be a positive for snap, facebook, and for google youtube i don't think it will happen that's how it would play out if it did >> mark, let me flip back to the ride sharing play. you mentioned uber you trimmed your price target on lyft why do you think uber will have the upper hand here? >> looctik, we like both assets the question is which stock do you prefer he always had had a preference for uber they have 70% market share in the history of tech, they
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made more money buying the market share leader than the lagger secondly, uber has strong leadership position and global markets:total adjustable market is bigger than lyft's. then we think that there is -- this are real synergies between ride sharing and eats. if that is true, uber has those potential synergies, lyft doesn't. >> all right mark, thank you so much, sir we appreciate it >> thank you, kelly. >> rbc's mark mohaney. >> quick check of the markets. the real standout in today's session, the dow up by 1.2%. s&p 500 is up by .8% banks leading the way. we had a big show. we had -- we talked beef w we talked barclay's. >> i'm ordering a cow -- >> you are ordering a cow? it's a lot of meat. >> i know. >> it's a big command. >> the idea of having stuff for a year, i mean that, is pretty compelling one other topic today, melissa i
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thought was interesting. tesla n idea about whether or not it should join the s&p 500 it is now the 16th largest stock in america you have more and more of these companies creating the market caps outside of the s&p 500. you're kind of darned if you do and darned if you don't. if you add it in, you have the entire tail wind behind it a jaw dropping move in the stock. if you don't, then, i'm not sure what it is suppose to be emblematic of. >> $4.5 trillion indexed to the s&p 500. so that will be, you know, how much money we would have to chase tesla at this point. a lot of people are saying the recommendation is to buy tesla ahead of the inclusion of the s&p 500 at which point many investors have to get in just because of their mandates. the thing to keep in mind that, will be a big benefit for tesla shares quet the question is will it dampen the wild volatility in the long run and could it dampen the upside if it gets included in the s&p 500 and much more pinned
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to market activity overall >> yeah. the question is can anything dampen the up side at this point? it's up 7% anyway, that does it for us on "power lunch." "closing bell" starts right now. thank you. welcome, everyone, to "closing bell." i'm sara eisen here with wilfred frost. stocks ending the week on a high note storming higher in today's session. let's take a look at what is driving the action reopening trades are gaining ground carnival and airlines higher as gilead says the anti-viral treatment reduces mortality risk from covid-19. more optimism for big tech netflix is up a few percent today. 16% for the week one high profile investor is raising a red flag on the name and president trump says the u.s.-china relationship is severely damaged and a phase two trade deal is not a priority it is not having much of an impact on sentiment. 59 minutes left of

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