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that led to his criminal conviction. his request to get out of prison early? denied. martin shkreli is scheduled for release in september 2023. captions by vitac -- it is 5:30 eastern time on a friday right here on cnbc, and that can only mean one thing, it is time for "options action" here's what's coming up on the show. >> banking on a breakout, the financials were on fire this week, and tony zang is the one name you can play to cash in. plus, if you think the market has come too far too fast, mike ko has a way to take some protection on the cheap. and do the dog days of summer have you feeling tired, run down, and listless well, you're not alone
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the chart master is drilling down on the one sector running low on energy. how you can play it for a jolt it's time to risk less and make more "options action" starts right now. hopefully the dog days haven't gotten you down too much it is friday, why not, 2:30 on the west week. it was a record week on wall street that should give you energy. the nasdaq and s&p 500 hitting fresh all time highs and the dow turning positive for the year. all this after the fed made a major policy shift saying they're going to allow inflation to run hotter than normal to help the american economy. jobs over inflation headline that was big in the bond market. the ten-year yield hitting its highest level since june, and the yield curve sharply. tony zang says there's only one
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stock that can be a big winner, at least one stock that could, tony, who is it? take it away. >> i wanted to take a look at morgan stanley because of this pickup in rates, that's going to provide support for a rally in financials if we take a look at the chart of morgan stanley, it's one of the strongest from a relative strength perspective easily outperforming the sector since the beginning of march if you couple that with the top 53 and the triangle formation we have, i think the stock is prime for the breakout above the $53 level. if you look at morgan stanley's business, they have built a well diversified business around their wealth management, and with the strong capital ratios they have, the only head wind they have is interest rates. by looking at the rate curve, the recent uptick in terms of inflation expectations we have seen and the fed policy this week, that has driven the long end of the curve substantially
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higher while the fed policy is keeping the short end of the curve near 0 when you have the steepening of the curve, that's going to reduce the head winds. the trade set up is a structure that number one is trying to capture this potential breakout above 53 and taking into account the fact that the applied volatility percentile sits at 15%, so relatively lower out to october, i'm buying a 52 1/2, 57 1/2 vertical spread paying about $2.75 for the 52 1/2 collecting about 95 cents for the 57 1/2 i'm paying about 1.75 debit for this $5 wide debit spread which is only about 3% of the underlying stock price betting for the breakout higher on the steepening ate curve >> good stuff there on morgan stanley. mike, he laid out a lot of
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reasons, technical, fundamental, why he looked morgan stanley what is your take on tony's trade? >> from the fundamental standpoint, there's not a lot of places you can buy companies at one times tangible book, trading at less than 11 times full year estimated earnings because their wealth management business is a big part of their strategy and they have a fairly strong balance sheet, as asset prices increase, one can assume the fees they're going to earn on the assets they manage are also going to increase i do like morgan stanley the one thing i like about the afraid and like at money calls, the higher the probability of profit on a rise, i would probably hold off on selling personally the higher strike call the market is obviously running exceptionally hot. if you start to see a big move, you can roll the position you have or sell calls against it. fundamentally, i like morgan stanley a lot.
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i like the set up, so i think this is a good opportunity. >> let me flip it with this, mike, fundamentally, do you like what the federal reserve did and what the federal reserve said? >> well, what the federal reserve said is pretty interesting, right we basically have been dealing with fed speak since allen green span and we have to interpret. what they were talking about is restraining themselves from taking their foot off the accelerator pedal. it's not just financials, but essentially they are encourage youg ing you to buy all risk assets i don't feel the fed or any central bank has much of a choice when they're talking about policy what they're suggesting is they have a lot of options and they're trying to choose the best course. i don't think they have much of a course, and we're all going to have to live with the consequences of that, but i'm not surprised by the language
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they're using to describe what they're up to. >> yeah, good stuff there. carter, your take on either the fed, tony's trade, the financials, the yield curve or all of the above. >> all of the above. mike was talking about what is their plan there is no difference between 62 basis points on the ten-year, 48, 98, rates are basically at 0, and there has been a steepening the key thing is morgan stanley is a better operator in the market tony laid out the technical perspective. it is a coiled spring. compare to goldman sachs year to date goldman down 9.7 it's the only really important broker dealer or bank that's up on the year. out other financials that are up are things like black rock, or insurance companies or rating
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agencies like moody's of the 66 stocks in the s&p 500, a financial sector, only 15 are up, and morgan stanley being the only real bank, if you will. the technicals look great. it is a lot of tension importantly here, though, this is a stock, even if it breaks out and gets back to its january high at 57.50, the all time high is long ago. there's much work to be done for financials in general. >> yeah, i mean, we didn't even mention the fact that wells fargo, maybe for a different show is down 54% in a year, maybe the most important stock out there. a good discussion on morgan stanley. bullish comments there and also the fed. the fed of course is a big piece of the puzzle but it's still just a piece of the puzzle by the way, we're also just 66 days, 6 hours, 22 minutes and 20 seconds away from the presidential election. and the options market is pricing in to potential major volatility, heading into november mike has a way to navigate that
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in his call to action. mike >> so, you know, it's interesting, i mean, we were just talking about financials, and usually when we talk about the market, we talk albout the s&p, we're talking about stocks, talking about the biggest constituents of the year's best performing index and that's the nasdaq 100 you take a look at the top stocks, we're talking about apple, amazon, microsoft, tesla, n netflix, these represent essentially 50% of the index, the best performing stocks, and here we are trading at all time highs, and valuations are trading maybe 32 times forward earnings that's considerably higher than the 22% averaged over the last ten years or so. when you look at that situation, but you combine it with the fact if you sell your stocks right now, you're selling the biggest winners in the economy you will be selling against the
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feds wishes, encouraging us to be long risk assets and we've got the election coming up it's true exactly what you said, when we take a look at the implied volatility in the indices, what we can see is the options market is basically predicting a pretty big spike in volatility around the election in fact, we are seeing some indications that there might be some prolonged volatility into the end of december. what do you do if you can't sell your stocks, you have big gains in your stocks, you know volatility could be coming that is the perfect opportunity to hedge i was taking a look at the qqqs, that's the etf that remits the nasdaq, if you own stocks or the nasdaq itself, this is a good instrument to use as a proxy to hedge. i'm not saying that the market's just going to roll over here what i wanted to have was some protection against a bigger downside move if newscast what we get, so i was looking out to november so i could also capture
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that election. i was looking at the 275, 250 put spread when i was looking at that earlier today, you could buy the 275 puts for a little over $12 sell the 250s against it kne net you're going to end up spending about $6.60, if you held the qs that's probably what they're up the last three days sacrificing the most recent gains to buy protection in the event of increased volatility come to pass. >> a lot of complicated stuff there, tony, the one thing i like about it is mike just said basically you're playing with free money if you have been in the market for three days, you're playing with free money. overall, what do you think of the trade? >> during market tops, buy puts are relatively claeheap
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you could have put on any type of hedge like this starting the beginning of june and you would have lost that premium it's hard to fight the bullish trend. when you see these types of stretch valuations and warning signs of markets being exhausted and leadership continuing to nai narrow i think it's difficult not to seek this protection you're giving up roughly three days of gains to pay for it. the only thing i would add, you can potentially, if you own q's, look out to october, and sell some upside calls. i was looking out to october selling the 310 calls would give you another 6 1/2% upside over the next 50 days we'll collect $5 in premium, which will pay for the put spread that mike has laid out he here that's another way that you can offset some of the premium here for that. for everything "options action" check out our web site
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optionsaction.cnbc.com you may have heard about this news letter. sign up for it meantime, we're not done here's what's coming up next. it's a major sign of the times. after nearly 100 years in the dow, exxon is getting the boot and the chart master isn't surprise, why carter says big oil could be in big trouble. calling all actions fans, reach into your pocket, grab your phone, and tweet us your question @optionsaction. if it's nice, we'll answer it on air when "options action" returns. ♪ ♪ ♪
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action" big changes are coming to the big board after a hundred years on the dow exxon mobil is getting the boot. the change will take place on monday morning, and carter says that could be the big start for bin big pain for big energy. it's pretty much been a decade with no gains. what do the charts show? >> not the start of the pain the pain has been long standing, there's more to come nothing to do with starting. let's look at a few charts and tables the first, this is a comparative chart of the xle, the s&p 500 energy sector versus crude oil, and you can see they're fairly correlated they both plunge in march with all equities, and they bot recover, but energy, the commodity has continued to recover while energy stocks are not. you can see the divergence there. look at the second comparative chart.
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it's a four-year chart look how well these two instruments track, which makes sense. the energy stocks do well when the commodity is up versus down, and then the divergence, and so this is the issue. how rare is this circumstance. take a look at the next slide. we have a three-month spread between the commodity and the energy sector that's greater than 35% that has only happened 13 times on any rolling three-month period going back to 1990. that's an incident rate of 0.16%. this is exceedingly rare take a look at what happens to the next slide one would think if the commodity is going up, the energy stocks will play catch up actually, it's the opposite. this shows you the performance of the energy sector, one, three, six and 12 months later you can see the statistics, they're very clear on the
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screen it does not imply good things for energy next chart, this is simply the xle, the vehicle to use if one wants to buy and sell energy as a theme. no drawings or annotations by me, and finally xle chart with drawings and lines we have worked ourselves into a well defined wedge and we are breaking down, so a couple of things energy is not really a sector anymore, it's almost like teleco, there was at&t and verizon. exxon and chevron are half the weight of the sector, and all of the other stocks only add up to 3% of the s&p. either way, dwoewe don't like i >> that's amazing, just all of those stats, including three times in 30 some years on that divergence mike, your comment, very well researched and executed of course, detailed information there, do you see any trade in energy at all? >> well, not on the long side.
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jim cramer said energy was uninvestable, and i'm inclined to agree with him. when looking at options to trade, one of the things we're looking at is this is a relatively volatile sector now, a lot of balance sheets become increasingly leveraged the integrated oils less so than some of the e and p companies. it is a very distressed industry and of course the very low cost of capital that many businesses have aren't necessarily going to be enjoyed by some of the peripheral companies here. we're going to focus on companies at the top of it that he's talking about, the integrated oil companies, seeing options premiums relatively el va -- elevated the october puts were $1.65 when i was looking at those today and 30 strike puts were 30 cents, that's more than 1% the value of
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the etf right there, and of course those 30-strike puts are considerably out of the money. i think this is a way we can spend about 1 pn$1.25 to make tt bearish spread, and really what we have is a situation, it's hard to short stocks that have been so distressed you really can only use options if you're trying to press a bearish bet here. >> pressing that bet tony, what's your take on the trade? >> so i agreed with carter's charts here, the main theme is the under performance of xle, not just the short-term but over the last few years, that's the theme here i don't particularly have a strong view in terms of the directional view of crude prices the historical volatility is trading at a 1% in the last two weeks. oil is particularly low. if you get a pickup in volatility, i like mike's trade, he's only risking 3 1/2% of the
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etf's value to take a bearish bet. >> tony, thank you very much interesting trailed there on xle. up next, nailed it, one of those guys, laid out a very bullish home improvement trade last weekend and the stock rallied to all time highs what was the trade, what's he doing now? we're going to find out and of course take some of your tweets, send your questions to @optionsaction on the twitter. we'll back right after this. i have an idea for a trade. oh yeah, you going to place it? not until i'm sure. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. voila! maybe a couple throw pillows would help.
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♪ . welcome back to "options action," it's time to look back at some of our open trades last week, tony zhang said shares of home depot were about to break out. >> earnings knocked down from the 20-day moving average a much better entry point for a long position in home depot, the october 2nd, weekly options, selling the 277 1/2, 262 1/2 put vertical here collecting about $5.90 for this 15-dollar wide credit spread. >> well, tony, you nailed it home depot is surging to new all time highs what are you doing with that trade now? >> so as i said, the pull back to the 20-day moving average,
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the stock has moved nicely off of that. however, this is a trade that's still in play. this is going out to the october 2nd expiration i'm holding on to this trade, looking for home depot to continue to rise over the next few weeks. >> let's move on congrats on that mike laid out a retail play heading into those earnings. >> the relative outperformance period, every time we have gotten to the trend line he has failed you can see the arrows i have drawn there. the bet is it's going to fail as a relative outperformer and start to falter. >> i was looking to the october 2nd weekly, 50 strike puts, those were trading for 1 pn$1.5, trying to carry through labor day, september, sometimes an up tick in volatility >> the first part of the video, i thought mike, how you have
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changed. the xle retail bouncing higher since that trade, so mike, and then we'll get to carter, what now? >> first of all, i will say that we do often see an up tick in volatility in december, and all of the reasons i was highlighting with the qqq put spread, i'm inclined to stay with we didn't risk a great deal. they were quite cheap at the time, and they are cheaper now, so i'm going to stay in them. >> what about you, carter? he's staying. >> for sure. i mean, we've had big moves out of big names like walmart and target and still xrt is hunch over the past week we don't think there's any ammo to go higher. >> good stuff on the xrt, watching retail, up next, your tweets and final call. stick around i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time.
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you're talking about a hundred dollar stock that plunged to 20, and then key is it's made this move from 20 to the mid 30s and that often is the foreshadowing of more to come. if your options trade is expired or run out of time or roll it out, i would leave that to my team may mike khouw, but i would buy time and expect very good things to come. >> yeah, it's bounced off the lows pretty nicely but still have a long way to go, long way back to one hundred. our next viewer asked this, i bought a march 21st, 500 call on apple, up 75%, i'm bullish in general, how long before a call expiration so far into the future, should i exit before time decay, mike, starts to hurt him? >> you don't have to worry just yet on this one, but what you can do is sell some out of the money upside calls of shorter expiration to offset some of the
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