tv Squawk on the Street CNBC October 27, 2020 9:00am-11:00am EDT
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never knew him, but great company. thank you. thank you, dom chu final check on the markets, dow now up just 8 points what happened? anyway, good durable goods but it is a long ay. we'll see by 4:00 after that session yesterday, i like your -- i like cocoa the cat, cocoa the kitten i hear you make sure you join us tomorrow "squawk on the street" is next good tuesday morning welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with jim cramer and david faber futures are trying to get back some of yesterday's sell-off the worst day for the dow since september 3rd. earnings out in force. pre-election stimulus all but dead as the senate adjourned until after election day some blockbuster m&a as amd buys xilinx lisa su is going to join us in a few moments.
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and your comments a moment ago to andrew, just sort of crystallize, not just what a job she's done, but how companies are placing their bets on looking through cycles, even though we're a week away from an election and in the middle of a pandemic. >> you have somebody the quality of lease why isa su, best ceo i country, nonpromotional, re competitive thought this was maxed out. you're in the personal computer and data center, it is not good enough she saw what happened to intel i don't say that with any prejudice. just that she left intel behind. she is in the data center, who is she -- who are her clients? azure, google, and, of course, amazon but it is time she feels it is time to branch out into auto, time to branch out into defense into telco when you look at xilinx, what you're seeing is a mosaic where there is some overlap in data
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center, but the rest is an attempt to say, you know what, we need a bigger total addressable market we have to outgrow our markets right now. and i think it is a very forward looking -- >> they're talking about total adjustable market, 110 billion i want to make sure i remember that i looked through the slides. she's going to get -- she's got lots of room to her shareholders to do what she wants without people questioning her given the performance of the company by the way, you don't want to overlook the earnings from amd. >> that's what moved the stock the stock was at 77. >> they are reflective of the fact she has a deep well of support from her shareholder base here, jim and these numbers are blowout from amd, helping the stock price, it is an all stock deal, perhaps a bit higher than some anticipated. they were waiting for earnings too to get the negotiations finished and get to the finish line, jim, for that 1.7234 ratio and, yes, the stock looks like
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it may not be down very much >> you hit it on the -- right. right the nail with the hammer 41 cents for earnings, they were looking for 35 you have revenues that are dramatically better than expected, when you have accelerated revenue growth for a company that is not a spring chicken, than what you would have this is $9500 stock in a few days i think this is brilliant from the point of view of very forward thinking, because she did not want to be in -- >> clearly that is -- you do wonder as you watch the company grow alteras has not been a great deal for them. that's a concern, that's been a concern in the weeks leading up to this deal where we originally got a report on it but it seemed as though there was some questions i know even you sort of have been questioning some of the logic behind it. >> when i talked with her, i didn't want that -- her to do a
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dual deal. it is an accretive deal, accretive from day one i often find when you second guess lisa su, david, how do you say it moron, idiot i find myself when i'm out with this genius, this engineer, by the way, not a bean counter, not a person who never designed a chip, i discover all sorts of things, like greatness and who is only in her camp is jensen. >> you did say greatest ceo, i was wondering what that meant for -- >> they're rivals and friends and cousins. >> yes keep an eye on amd stock given how much stock they will be issuing for this, there may be some pressure from those who are setting it up and arbitrage level so you could see some -- a bit of weakness. i think it is getting a sense here given the numbers jim, they need a shareholder vote of their own, shareholders,
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xilinx, and they need antitrust it is going to take a while. this thing is not closing until the end of next year. >> i hope they don't lose focus. 4% of the combined company will be theirs. i think when you look at the pastiche of xilinx, you're talking about wired and wireless, you're talking about automotive broadcast consumer and talking about the way 5g, which she did not have exposure in, and huawei, which was a very important client for xilinx. it has been absorbed you speak about lisa su, what you speak about is why we own stocks this is a stock that she took over i remember i spent some time when the stock was 5 and i was still idolizing intel and she told me without calling me a fool because she is what i regard as being very mannerly, explained to me the world. i remember her saying, you're
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schooling me and she said, yes. i liked that >> yeah. jim, i always like how ceos either call you a dollar sign, posing as a human, or some kind of apparition or in this case just a fool. it is nice to be talked down sometimes. >> she and daniel her husband are a delight. and when you get together with them, you realize you're in another orb and you do your best to try to keep up and hopefully she diverts the conversation to something about how she grew up about ten blocks from my wife, which i like, but if you talk about -- you're going to talk about some of the chips, like the epic chip that is so important to the data center and to her italian name, chips, you find yourself immediately over your head. and not because she attempts to do that, but that's the language she speaks because she's a genius. >> talking about 300 million in synergies, not a huge number, but saying again, to your point, it will be accretive before
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synergies and we'll talk to lisa su in the time we have, jim, want to get your take day after a significant sell-off overall we have seen a tone -- a beat of m&a, a company using what has been an extraordinarily well performing stock price to do a deal in all stock, but overall, as we take a look at how we ended yesterday and what happened, just give me your take as we come into today. >> i think a lot of people feel there will be a lockdown at certain point. we had dr. faust on midday, who i regard as the foremost viewer of the situation, up at harvard, saying, listen, we're closing the wrong places, we're closing schools, we should be closing bars bars and restaurants, where it is transmitted, indoors, you go indoors. also, there is a company sap and sap was considered to be the gold standard when bill mcdermott is there it is integral to much of technology it reported a quarter that was
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horrible and who did it blame not itself this is one of those -- the fault was not in the stars fault was in sap but, no, would they bother to say it was sap no no no they said it is the environment. the environment has sped up everybody who is involved with digitization and clout and left sap behind but, no, not them and not their dysfunctional ceo situation where i had the ceo, the co-ceo on "mad money" and three weeks later, bye. >> yes, the lady you're talking about who left the company soon after you talked to her. >> yeah. i just spoke truth, which is the province of novels in place. but i didn't like that the way -- the only other person who deflected and suggested that perhaps it was the environment was robert swan from intel
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here is the environment. lisa su pantsed you. >> that's a great point. intel, those numbers did concern a few shareholders of amd wondering if there was a broader slowdown in some way and then again just back to the amd numbers this morning, the answer is no. >> exactly what was important is when you listen to intel, you felt that data center was slowing down, which, of course, it is accelerated. you felt maybe the pc was weak, you felt that maybe the whole complex was weak not unlike what you felt yesterday with sap when they do this, and then you get an amd, you start questioning well maybe it is intel, and sap themselves. and not the stars, not the firmament which was explained in the conference call and the data the idea of these two companies getting together makes it so that you would no longer say that amd is just limited to the personal computer in the data center i think it is an important move to be linked to automotive and
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to 5g and that's what's going on right now. >> yeah. it is a huge story, jim. one we're going to talk about with lisa su after a break don't go away. i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time. that's why td ameritrade designed a first-of-its-kind, personalized education center. oh. their award-winning content is tailored to fit your investing goals and interests. and it learns with you, so as you become smarter, so do its recommendations. so it's like my streaming service. well except now you're binge learning. see how you can become a smarter investor with a personalized education from td ameritrade. visit tdameritrade.com/learn ♪
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gigantic morning gigantic morning for amd the chipmaker reported better than expected quarterly results. i think that's very much an understatement but now dealing with xilinx. they do work together, but they can be competitive that will be no more than $35 billion deal and joining us now, exclusively, amd president and ceo lisa su. always fabulous to see you >> hey, good morning, jim. great to be here with you this morning. >> first, we got to talk about your amd reports before we go into xilinx. it is rare i see record revenue growth 56%, rare i see accelerated revenue growth for a
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company your size, a company that has its own destiny, multiyear destiny. how are you capable of coming up with something that no other chipmakers do it >> well, look, jim, first of all, we are very, very excited today. lots of excitement we had a very strong third quarter. i think the results speak for themselves i think we saw a significant growth on the top line, we saw a beat on the bottom line. when you look across the markets, these are the most exciting markets, so strong pcs, strong gaming, strong data center, and, you know, we see that extending into the fourth quarter and that's why we're able to raise our full year guidance for the years, now growing over 40% on year over year basis i think it is really the culmination of all of the things that we have been doing in the strategy around building great products, working deeply with the most important customers out there. and being in the right market segment. so very happy with how the
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company is performing and most importantly, you know, the strength of our products. >> this begs the question, lisa, i tell you i saw the results, my first reaction was 90 to 100 that's where the stock would be if it weren't for xilinx how do we defend the xilinx deal by -- is it something immediately accretive, something that expands your total addressable market otherwise shareholders would have been bountyfully rewarded by the numbers >> you know i'm in it for the long-term. we built our foundation, our base amd business on just thinking very carefully about what is going to happen in the industry over the next five years. so that's how we decided to lean into data centers, that's the strength of the pc market, strength of the gaming market. what xilinx brings is really very additive to the amd model it is immediately accretive upon closing. it brings significant market
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expansion as well as profitability and free cash flow generation but more importantly than that, we really believe that together we can define the future of high performance computing. and, you know, i'm a very ambitious person it is all about what we can do to transform the industry, as well as participate in driving sort of the next phase of computing. and that's what xilinx is all about. it is a fabulous company, i would say it is one of the best companies in the industry. it is a very unique capabilities and we are so complementary. you see that when we think about the product portfolios, the market segments we're in and culturely very aligned as well so it is a very, very good day for amd and we're very excited about what we can do together. >> i know you're quite familiar with mr. peng who runs xilinx when he was on "mad money" recently he talked about data center, but
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obviously industrial and i'm wondering how these fit in with the company that i think has made great advancement in data center and owns the pc market at this point are these markets ones that you want to be in? do you want to be in automotive? >> yes, so, absolutely when you look, our base amd market opportunity is about 80 billion. great markets, big markets, they move quickly and well. when you add xilinx, what you add is, first of all, we're both still very focused on the data center that's number one priority of the company. but they bring a great communications, 5g capability, they also bring, you know, automotive, that's a market we haven't been in, that market needs our technology as well so just in the telecom space, you know, we think there is an
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additional $5 billion of cpu opportunity for us that is largely untapped and so combined we'll have $110 billion which is a lot of opportunity to go after, and the key is, you know, both companies are operating extremely well xilinx is the market leader, they have been growing market share. we have a very strong portfolio and we have been growing market share and you put two winning teams together, and you really have one of the best teams in the industry >> lisa, it is david sometimes you put two teams together, you end up with not as good a team. history would show that there are plenty of well intentioned ceos who want to transition their companies, but look back on a deal a large deal like the one you're undertaking here and regret it. i just wonder, given the success you had, so much success, why are you willing to take this risk there is risk here there is integration risk. there is distraction risk. and any number of others why are you willing to take it for the opportunity you see?
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>> great question. let me start with hopefully you guys got to know me a little bit. i'm all about focus and execution. what we set out these plans for amd over the last five or six years and it was about building a leadership road map across our chosen market segments and so that's not going to change i am always going to be focused on execution but we're also very ambition, right? semiconductors is a place where scale matters. it is helpful, frankly to have 13,000 engineers who can work on the most important problems. and, you know what we also have is, you know, my thoughts, i actually haven't been very inquisitive. we haven't talked about m&a a lot as a company because i have been so focused. but this is such a unique opportunity. if you look at the fit between amd and xilinx and how we see the world shaping, i think scale
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matters, you know, technology, understanding matters, what we're bringing together is two teams who have very similar philosophies and, you know, frankly, victor is one of the best in the industry and so excited that he's going to be joining amd as a part of this transaction so we're bringing an incredibly strong and talented team to add to our already talented team so on the distraction factor, the main thing i would say is we did well and we'll continue to execute well and this is really about what is the next five years about. and in this business, you have to take some bold moves and i feel like this is the perfect time, frankly, as our business is so strong from a base foundational standpoint to add to the next leg in our journey and really focus on leadership. >> and this next year, listen, you know, year from now, you may
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not have closed this transaction, according to your press release and late 2021. regulatory approvals, shareholder approvals, you're confident you'll stay focused during that period and i assume you have a road map you outlined or will outline in terms of getting things done as the integration moves forward? >> absolutely. i think we're very focused on bringing the best of both businesses and, you know, we will have to go through the customary regulatory approvals and so on and so forth but we feel very good about that process. >> press release dated five years ago, it is about intel acquisition of altera, the acquisition, leading edge products and manufacturing process with the leading field, products, internet of things, data center. this sounds like your deal the intel altera deal was a failure. how do you know this one won't
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be >> well, jim, it is a very different time and it is a very different company. and very different people. so what i would say is that xilinx is the market leader. they have -- they're the market leader and they have been growing in market share over the past number of years i think when you look at our vision, it is just very aligned. we believe in high performance computing, we believe in adaptive computing, we have a very synergistic technology strategy it is not like any -- any one of us has to change how we think about technology we think about technology the same way and furthermore, i think the fact that we're bringing on victor and the leadership team also adds to all of that so we thought about this very, very carefully i am very much on -- meeting and skeeti i exceeding commitments here i think this is great for our
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shareholders, great for our employees, it is great for our customers. and we just have to keep executing like we have been. >> that's a terrific list. i'll say something antithetical to your nature, you're a heroine to a lot of people in the world. you've done a remarkable job how were you able to take a company with a terrible balance sheet, a low single digit stock and turn it into the powerhouse of your industry >> you're too kind, jim. all i can tell you is we love what we're doing it is so exciting to be in this business right now to see the success that we had with our products. and, you know, our teams are executing really, really well and i have to be thankful for the teams we have around us. the key is, i've always told you, jim, we're in the early innings of the story and i'm still going to tell you that the future of computing is tremendous and you're going to hear a lot in amd and amd and xilinx, you know, in the coming years.
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>> lisa, your competitiveness, your legacy, what you have done and mean to women and men all over the world is fantastic. i want to thank you for coming on "squawk on the street" and telling us about your amazing deal with xilinx >> thank you for having me this morning. take care. >> you too >> all right, guys great stuff. when we come back, we'll get to the 3q earnings rolling in this morning. cat, lilly, pfizer, merck, harley, raytheon, a lot more futures have lost so omef their overnight highs. we're back in a minute at calvert, we know responsible investing is hard.
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for the v-shaped any and not the 14 million people about to be laid off when we realize that you can't have a bar or a restaurant without possible exposure to covid. but there are companies like the sherwin williams of the world, the housing, the housing remake is in a different category it impacts so many companies and that is by far the strongest area so far that i've seen >> yeah. jim, as we say there is the opening bell here, a little more even split of advancers and decliner than we saw this time yesterday, jim sherwin williams good example, you point out revenue ahead, a beat, hog, third best net income since 2015 and i know you love polaris as they guide above, the consumer does have some discretionary income to spend on their home and their toys even as some of it came in the form of stimulus. >> when you take a harley-davidson, it takes many things to turn around the
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company, fabulous new leadership, complete blowout no promotions, no promotional activity also, it takes a pandemic because what could be more fun than riding around on a harley in a time where if you're in a building, you're fearful this is a way of travel. like brunswick, another stock i like, which is redefining america as a place that wants to be outdoored in safety harley-davidson and polaris have both of those. >> jim, i mean, there is an avalanche of earnings this morning and also transactions whether it be aig, potentially splitting the company or dte which i'll get to in a moment. i want to hit as we look at the market here, see how we open after yesterday's significant downtrend over 2%. >> you want to talk about exact sizes, don't you >> i don't you want to talk about exact size >> 13 and buying a liquid biopsy
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company. >> talk about it it is a private company, but talk about it. >> a lot of people feel the holy grail is to get blood and then able to detect cancer. we don't know,000 how to detect cancer well now. this gets them beyond colorectal cancer if you can do this, can you imagine how many people you would be able to diagnose early for cancers that otherwise are very difficult to get in the late game. >> that would be a huge undertaking. it is 1.7 billion, could be as much as over 2 billion and when certain milestones are met in terms of what they're paying for the company. >> stock is up 13. it no longer is a company where you have to do an unpleasant task to be able to find out whether you have colorectal cancer >> which is great. >> yeah. >> what was the deal you were going to mention >> so many different things. by the way, that was thrive earlier detection is the name of the company we're talking about in terms of exact sciences acquiring it to what jim was explaining i want to stay in healthcare and
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talk merck talk covid i want your take on the merck numbers. stock not doing much of anything i wanted to reference, we had on ridge back, back in the early days of the pandemic, it is their oral antiviral, jim, that roger perlmutter who is retiring fairly soon, but was discussing on the conference call talking about in phase two studies right now, and, again, it is a five-day, it would be a five-day oral course that would suggestly reduce the viral load. it is likely it will be superior to remdesivir based on p preclinical studies. there has been mixed reviews on it, w.h.o. report, not sure why you would want to reference that i think -- we did reference --
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>> what didn't you reference >> taking two regeneron and going back on the campaign trail. >> infused monoclonal antibody this is different. i just come back to it, when we talk about all the different treatments that would be out there, this is important, based on many mechanism of action, he said they're hopeful the new therapy, which is administered orally in capsule form will reduce morbidity and mortality along with the progress and clinical development let's keep a close eye on it they're in phase two, three at merck, five-day course, oral antiviral. >> a pill. >> correct >> not an infusion. >> no. >> david, we would be doing things if we could get this pill. >> yes and -- >> eli lilly we wouldn't be doing things >> no, give me your take on lilly. we see merck not doing much this morning on the earnings themselves great deal of it, keytruda sales
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were incredible. >> drug of all time. >> 3.7 billion for the quarter. >> this is an anti-cancer drug eli lilly, there are other uses for that drug. and they had success with mobile vans going to nursing homes to be able to administer. but when you get such a staunch, hey, no go, from the fda, it is daunting david ricks doing a good job i do find people don't understand the power of merck. if they can get this to work >> i know. it is funny, just under the radar and maybe for a reason maybe there is a sense that, 2700 people right now in phase two, three, in terms of 2700 patients you know, they're looking at, that they're doing the trials on safety, but efficacy is the key here both hospitalized, nonhospitalized, no trouble finding covid patients these days that was an issue six -- not six, maybe this summer you may
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have had a harder time, 23,000 cases a day, not anymore. >> not anymore my mom died very young of kidney cancer and i -- there were a lot of false hopes. a lot of people said there was this, there was that and you went through a tremendous agony because you believed ken frazier has never let anyone believe that keytruda is going to be a magic bullet his humility in the face of recognizing false hope is what i think is creating the disconnect between how effective his course might be and why we don't think of merck as being the company that is going to solve this for us. >> right, i know it is interesting. maybe we were right as the stock ticks higher so many things not earnings related but transaction related. here is a company i don't talk about too often. dte energy i'm sure jim knows it. i did not know it.
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$24 billion market cap this morning they announced their plans to spin off their midstream business we're talking about the nonutility natural gas pipeline storage and gathering business of dte you see the stock is reacting positively and it would make it a pure play regulated electric and natural gas utility, jim this is not dissimilar from what duke did with its pipeline business, nysor with its pipeline business. and both did quite well in terms of creating value it would seem after the transaction. they're going to spin it off, it will be a tax free spin to shareholders don't have a lot more details at this point fairly long press release. they had a gerood earnings, jim. >> there are a lot of people, the man who a lot of people -- the father of exports from natural gas saying we could see $5 natural gas i think he's a little too bullish. i do think that the way that
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you're creating wealth in pipelines and utility is to follow an elliott management game plan. elliott management was integral in the detroit edison. >> right these are incredible stocks. i had american electric power on last night does anyone think it is an interesting stock? interesting is not important what matters is income a lot of our viewers love income, we spent a lot of time talking about high flyers and i happen to love twilio. tremendous numbers together. the stock is down but it will be up in a couple of days a lot of people don't want twilio they want income dominion doing things that is income next tara. i think this is a remarkable place, overlooked by us. a lot of the companies are interested in solar. not because of biden or trump, but because they told me last night it is the right thing to do new way to approach business. >> interesting
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>> yeah. yeah right about twilio q4, 8 to 11 cent loss. i wanted to ask you about what is going on with some of the industrial names unp not a bright spot last week. 3m, cat, weighing on things this morning. cat, no guidance out of cat, customers delaying some purchases. if it weren't for china, i'm not sure where the stock would be. china a bright spot according to the cfo. >> caterpillar has been one of the companies that is a proxy for worldwide growth and for a belief that biden will come in and will end the trade war with china. also had some -- but rally levered to oil union pacific, you mentioned, talk about disappointed, i suggested last night they buy kansas city southern, they're really in the need to do something. precision railroad has run out 3m is a quandary i think mike roman is doing a lot of good things he had a bunch of product lines
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that were very strong. but once again, tripped up by a belief, i think, that they don't have the growth that people want now, is mike coming up >> he is, in the 10:00 >> that will be good i think he's turning around the company. i don't think he's getting the respect he deserves at this point. this was -- he inherited a company that maybe wasn't as good are you doing the questioning? >> i'm going to be conducting some of the questions, sure. >> without giving away too much -- >> i'm not going to -- >> i think that's important to show me up and make me look stupid carl, back to you. >> i would never do that i want your take on ing in a second. >> that soeceo, the guy that let he created a lot of value. >> had him on all the time, through the exchange they are separating out their life and retirement business or announcing their intent to separate you can see shares are up 4% i had not realized the stock was
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down 40%. >> one of the worst investments. remember aig, high flyer, for 2007, 2008, they insured everything that blew in from the window. >> never saw a loss like that, $100 billion in the quarter. >> everyone tried to nail goldman for the reason why aig lost and not their own incompeten incompetence >> that was quite a time i want to hit tiffany as well i've been following it closely of course as we get closer to potential trial date in delaware where tiffany is going to say, hey, you have to buy us. they got eu approval yesterday not a surprise they got all the approvals there. the question is, is now the time, if you want to actually see if there is a way to get this thing done and get the trial or i should say get your problems behind you, is there a way to settle? and what i can tell you is there is at least what i'm hearing indirect conversations the judge here has been encouraging both sides to try to
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do something when we say indirect conversations, you know, the old back channel, you don't want to have the principles talking to each other but there are ways to communicate and see if there is something that can be done what would that be well, maybe you slightly reduce the macron takes back the letter, the meaning of the word should or could, you take that letter back, which has become less of an issue anyhow and move to a tender which can get the deal done very quickly and have the effect of closing the deal before the next dividend payment, which we know those dividend payments drove bernard arnault crazy. but we'll see. i want to keep a close eye on this if you were going to come to some point where you were going to be able to forge a new transaction and slightly lower price, get the uncertainty out of the way, not go to trial, now is the time to try to get that
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done carl, back to you. >> all right, guys so much to process as david says let's get to bob pisani, see what's moving, hey, bob. >> happy tuesday no announcements to throw us off, though europe is still down 1% take a look at the sectors, similar pattern to yesterday, now, the semis are holding up all right. xilinx is up 10% or so consumer staples again, outperforming. defensive sectors looking better but the cyclicals, like yesterday, industrials, energy, banks, down for a second day in a row. banks had a great time last week not so good this week as yields have been moving back down what is moving as well, these thematic tech etfs, these investors love buying, lithium and gain, cloud computing etfs, 3-d printing etfs, every day they move up on decent volume, a lot of investor interest in buying tech in this particular
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manner the thing is guidance. what i see is the lack of it big companies, not really providing any kind of explicit guidance again, this is a problem for the analyst, caterpillar, 3m, xerox, stanley black and decker, harl harley-davids harley-davidson, raytheon, look at corning didn't provide any explicit guidance, labcorp analysts are trying to figure out what is going on first and third quarter. you see earnings come out and very wide disparities between what the analysts are thinking generally, they're beating, the analysts, without any guidance are being very, very conservative here f you see t if you see the numbers, 83% are beating way above. it is still 20% beating. the average beat is 20%. that's huge with the third of the s&p reporting already. i keep pointing out, they'll beat by 3%, 4%, 5% 20%, third reporting, that's an amazing beat what we're seeing here is not a
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lot of movement on the stock prices and that's a little bit disconcerting. i want to show you what's going on here with cummins, huge beat, 40% above the median price estimate was and no analyst got close to the number they reported this is historic high for cummins. they do engines and engine parts. the company i think highlighted exactly what the problem is with earnings season. the ceo, we're encouraged by the recovery in demand, across our markets in the third quarter visibility on future order remains low and the impact of the virus on economies around the world remains difficult to predict. that is exactly the problem we are having a problem with the fourth quarter estimates because we're hostage to what is going on earnings trends we're seeing here, guys, strong beat so far companies are beating, but not seeing a lot of price gains overall. is the good earnings news priced in maybe. it is more likely the macro
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factors are overlays are really making it difficult to figure out what the prices are and those are the stimulus, the vaccine and the elections overall. carl, back to you. >> all right, bob, thanks so much bob pisani ten-year yield easing back into that familiar range this morning. let's get to rick. good morning, rick >> yes, we're definitely losing some upward horsepower to interest rates that we really started to see after retail sales a week ago friday. if you look at a two-day of 10s, couple of things, first of all, yesterday's low yields, our low yields before our time zone, about the same the minute we violated that, you can see what happened. what is also interesting is that occurred 20 minutes before very good durable goods orders. didn't slow it down. rates kept slicing right through. one of the reasons, look at the s&ps, they were going hand and hand and the weakness in the equities is one of the reasons we seem to be losing ground on the selling pressure as there was nervousness that rates may
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have to go higher to a better economy. the yield curve, we can tell it is all long end, it is flattening short end, glued to the wall as far as what is going on with the dollar index and foreign exchange, the best thing to look at there is the euro versus the dollar if you look at it over the last week or so, you can see it is definitely consolidating around 118. the dollar index also cons consolida consolidating, lower level carl, jim, david, back to you. >> all right, rick, talk to you later. rick santelli. look at 3m today the worst performing dow component, close it a one-month low here, despite a beat on the top and bottom line. we'll talk to mike roman about medical equipment sales and what may be driving the shares lower later this morning on "squawk on the street." don't go anywhere.
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the market as well as as well as profitability and free cash flow generation, but more importantly than that, we really believe that together we can define the future of high-performance computing >> that's lisa su with us earlier in the hour. the shares are down about almost 4% >> but there's a read-through carl microsoft reports tonight. the move by lisa su is in some ways a double down xlinx has a good mosaic business she's drawn to the data center and david's arbitrager lock in a gain 35 billion. if data center is as strong as lisa su says maybe azure is strong, big client of hers and the read-through is that you should buy microsoft maybe even going into a sell between say 1:00 and 2:00 today because microsoft might have a very good quarter, based on what she's
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saying david, your ash tranl rbitragere coming in wrecking this. >> they're not wrecking it a number of weeks ago a deal was seemingly very, very close and then you had a cinareinterregnu- >> whey what >> interregnum period of time don't be a misanthrope >> you guys are too fancy. the industrials and energy weighing on the dow at least rfme 3m, boeing, chevron, worst peorrsthe s&p is hanging on to e point.
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we put our masks on, right, and you can't see it because the wonders of the makeup people, but i have the ring of fire that comes from my mask so what do you do? you're supposed to use skin cleaner by estee lauder. we know them as makeup but they also have skin care and been in the decline, now it's in advance because of zoom and with zoom, i got to tell you, the ring of fire stands out. i'm tired of paying homage to johnny cash. i'm going to use estee lauder when i get home. come on, we all know what are you going to do do you think this area right here, you can clean this area. this is brand new! i destroy my face daily! i can't even shave >> yeah, jim, it's what we're living with right now. >> yes >> we're learning to live with it >> everyone's got an answer. tonight, centene, and talking about politics and what managed
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care looks like under maybe a different president or this one, and then i have raytheon, and a lot of people feel wait a second, are you levered to an industry that people are very worried about, aerospace i know i'd be worried with it if i was in it's row space business when you have a caseload of 08,000 people and fly to countries and there's five people on the plane and ten stewards, so we got to talk about that >> nice when we had greg hayes on this show once, but good for you, jim >> thank you, david. >> you're welcome. >> thank you for keeping the questions hidden what do you think he's like -- >> no hidden questions >> you can runbut you can't hide you'll fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee uh-oh, breaking news >> i'm sure the ceos love being fought over, jim we'll see you tonight. >> you bet >> "mad money" 6:00 p.m. eastern time good tuesday morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with david faber and sara eisen markets pretty tight range here as we watch earnings and covid levels and lack of stimulus, and mega m&a out of amd and xlinx.
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let's get consumer confidence with rick santelli >> hi, carl. october consumer confidence number expected around 102 we have a miss on this one, 100.9, so a bit under 101, definitely we're backtracking a bit. last month 101.8, and if you look at the low water mark, it was right around april at 85.70, a six-year low so a bit disappointing on that, and if we go through present situation, 104.6 versus 98.9, so that's definitely a nice improvement, and finally, expectations, what may lie ahead, that is 98.4, and that is a huge miss following 104.0, that was downwardly revised 102.9. here is a pleasant surprise, for october read on richmond fed, it moved to 29. 29 is the highest read ever for the series of data going back to 1993 carl, back to you.
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>> all right, rick, thank you. rick santelli helping us fold those numbers into this already busy q3 earnings season. vi binky chadha is with us and david bayland, chief investment officer at citi private bank good morning guys, good to see you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> binky, looking overd "no bane beat" beat ratios on top of the bottom line better than we've seen in a decade but market not responding why is that >> i think the important thing to keep in mind is when we went into the previous earnings season, we were just coming out basically of the bottom in terms of the equity markets, and so if you look at equity positioning, our measure was sort of at 25-year lows we were sort of in the third or fourth percentile by the time
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earnings season rolled around. when you got a big beat, you know, the market basically covered. the market typically rallies in earnings season but it's typically alittle bit less than % we rallied in the last season closer to 11%. you fast forward the tape to this earnings season, you look at our measure of equity positioning, we are right in the middle of the historical range, so we're getting a big beat. i would say those beats are bachkcal basically well in the price and positioning is basically neutral, so i think in terms of the equity market, it's sort of already happened is the way that i would put it >> yes, i'm looking at some charts also out of deutsche that say this could be just the fifth time, david, in the last 16 quarters, where the s&p is down during earnings season is there anything that the company has yet to print to change the mood? >> i don't think it's about the companies. i think it's much more about the environment that we're in right
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now. we have the election straight in front of us. vice president biden were going to come into office is it a significant tax change the market is concerned about that more than anything, and then right after that, in november and december, we fully expect there's going to be several vaccine announcements that are going to be very significant. and that should be followed in january regardless of who is president with some fiscal stimulus so we're really in a quarter right now where the news on corporate earnings is good as we heard and continue to hear but people will be dealing with a great deal of uncertainty and enormous amount of coronavirus in the west in the u.s. and in europe and faced with that, we're going to have a difficult fourth quarter we're actually going to have our economy slow down a little bit it certainly didn't have to do that, had there been stimulus, but it will, and as a result of that, people are going to be a bit wary when we look at 2021, we see the exact opposite, which is we're going to have a relief moment in the market, when they realize the pandemic will be abated by the release of several vaccines. there will be certainty about
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who is president there will be fiscal stimulus coming out of some kind or other, a large one if it's the democrats or a medium sized one if it's a mixed government, and so there's a lot to look forward to and we're dealing with a quarter of uncertainty, that's really what we're going to see not only what happened on last couple of days but we're going to have other days like this over the course of the next several months >> i think a lot of people, david, would relate to that view, that things will look better in 2021 how do you want to be positioned therefore in the markets, short term bumpiness and uncertainty and headwinds potentially longer term growth setup? >> that's right, and that really is the big challenge right now everyone is sitting there especially ultrahigh net worth clients with too much cash so we're saying to them, ask the question how much cash do you want to hold for the next five years and then look at rotating, away from the companies that have done so extraordinarily well, the ones that have carried us over the chasm and those were our technology companies the large
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ones and begin rotating into value stocks and financials, begin rotating into emerging markets, begin rotating into health care, which is suffering from a lot of uncertainty associated with a potential democratic president, think about changing your portfolio to reflect now what might be taking place in 2021, but do not start to sell, and try to market time, because i think that's a fool's game especially when markets are moving as quickly. you heard rick's data for today, which is quite positive, if you consider the context of that we're in a pandemic to have that level of consumer confidence and those kinds of prints. those are pretty good in the middle of having 85,000 cases of coronavirus a day. so we want our clients to stay invested but want them to rotate into these areas of the market that could be very valuable over the next 18 to 24 months >> yes, durable goods, too, very strong it's sort of already happened, binky, if you look at the best performing groups and industries in the month of october, it is groups like small caps,
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financials, industrials, the cyclical groups that have lagged behind for most of the year that would be positioned for a better economic backdrop. is that where you want to be, too? >> that's exactly where we are positioned i think the one other aspect of things that you didn't mention right now is the potential for a vaccine, and positive results, and you know, i think if you look at the s&p 500 from the index point of view, you know, we basically are not from new highs well above where we were pre-covid but if you look at the composition of the rally, it's really been led by beneficiaries of the pandemic, the rega cap growth stocks and defensives have basically done well so from a logical point of view, from a positioning point of view, i would argue you want to be long basically, you want to have a cyclical tilt and long in the reopening stocks >> david, one last thing, i'd love for you to dig into the
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market's potential worry about increasing tax rates, because we have heard that a scenario spun from a biden white house, but it's also been tempered by the idea that markets would eventually shake it off after a bout of selling t would be offset by fewer tariffs, more fiscal spending. net-net, how negative is it for the market >> i think you hit upon a good point. first of all, everyone is presuming the first thing a democratic president would do is work on taxes and that's probably crazy what's going to happen is fiscal stimulus coming out first and potentially some infrastructure activity you're going to have an abatement of trade concerns and those are significant, right we've been suffering for the last two years under a lot of trade uncertainty, and you have a pipeline that's largely not full there's not enough inventory and not enough goods being shipped across the world so there's a good backdrop, macro economically therefore, will there be changes in taxes absolutely what might they look like? that's a question, will they be as radical as put forth? our view is there will be a
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moderate change in tax policy. we want to advise clients not presume the worst case scenario. in terms of this year, you're asking a separate question which is this year, people are going to think about whether or not to take gains and so you could have a bout here of selling across different parts of the market, in two different ways. one is your highest gainers, and a lot of tech stocks could come under pressure from people who want to take profits and pay less tax to do so, again, anticipating a change and the second are areas that have already lost money, use energy as an example, where taking losses there could offset the games may be prevalent you could see in the sort of late november/december time frame a bout of tax selling that would present some interesting market opportunities as an entry point opportunistically. >> yes, really good clarity from both of you guys, as the markets facing a lot of binary outcomes in the short term. binky, david, thanks talk to you soon >> thank you let's get to our meg tirrell
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with earnings from pfizer, merck, eli lilly and meg, of course, all pursuing various things in terms of covid as well, whether it's vaccine, monoclonal antibodies or oral anti-virals. >> yes, all of the above, david. we're getting updates on all of those this morning that investors are watching as closely as the earnings which were a mixed bag for all of these companies, only merck up there as it did beat let's start with pfizer and that company having a bit of a mixed quarter, and tightening its 2020 guidance range, but of course, all eyes for pfizer are on an update for its covid-19 phase three vaccine trial potentially expected this week some were disappointed we did not see it this morning. one piece of news also out that pfizer has not connected an interim analysis of those data, which people in the biotech world are watching closely because they think that might have implications for how well the vaccine protects against covid-19, but guys, it could also just mean we haven't seen
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that many infections in the trial yet, and the pfizer call just started at 10:00 so we'll be listening for a lot more about that on to eli lilly, this company missed expectations on the top and bottom lines in the quarter. noted that they're facing pricing pressure for some drugs particularly in diabetes the focus there in covid is their antibody drug. we learned the trial from the nih that had been paused as they look into some effects there is going to be stopped completely, because it just didn't look like that antibody drug was helpful for patients who are hospitalized with covid-19 companies saying they are confident that the drug could have benefit for patients earlier in the course of the disease. finally, over to merck, they stopped expectations for the quarter, strengthened keytruda their big cancer drug. they've been quieter about their efforts in covid-19 but they have the anti-viral drug they licensed from ridgeback, saying they expect to have results within a couple months on that drug, in phase two/three trials
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developing one has started human trials, the other should start soon they say and they expect the first results by the end of the year guys >> meg, i spoke about the oral anti-viral earlier on "squawk box" as well, because i've been following it closely, whereas you follow all of these things but i'd love to divert for a moment to oncology, because maybe we don't talk about it enough it's saving lives, too, and in fact there's been such a revolution really over the last decade, keytruda, those sales numbers were extraordinary and new indications all the time >> that is a drug that has sailed from success to success and really is sort of a capstone on the career of roger perlmutter, merck's head of research who is actually going to retire in a few months, sort of a bittersweet good-bye on the call today after the news announced a couple of weeks ago. so that drug really beat expectations in the quarter.
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it's still growing throughout covid, success in lung cancer and other kinds of cancers so that's been a real driver for merck. of course, some people question is the company too dependent on keytruda there's always going to be both sides. >> for now as you said, meg, quick question on the antibody drug from lilly no longer being used because it was deemed ineffective on hospitalized patients does it mean anything for the other very promising monoclonal antibody treatments out there, including regeneron's? >> not necessarily, sara and doesn't mean this drug should be counted out. lilly has applied for emergency use authorization in people who more recently have been diagnosed with covid-19. they expect that because of the way this virus works the antibodies might be helpful earlier in the course of the disease. regeneron, you know, they are still testing their drugs, waiting for results in hospitalized setting as well, in
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addition to being used earlier for which they've applied for emergency use authorization, so we'll have to wait to see the regeneron results, see if all antibodies work the same, if there are differences in the way they run the trials but still a lot of hope for antibody vaccines in covid. >> there are different antibodies and regeneron is using a cocktail and not exactly the same meg, thank you, meg tirrell. after the break rick caruso on why he's feeling optimistic going into the holiday shopping season we have a big show ahead here on "squawk on the street. nasdaq is up 0.5%. the s&p 500 up a little more than 0.1%. dow is still negative bouncing back from yesterday's big losses (upbeat music)
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at the retail sector, as it tries to claw back after two quarters of covid restrictions, a new gallup poll finds americans plan to spend much less this holiday season, just $805 per person, down from $942 last year. what does it mean for mall operators? the own are of properties like the grove in los angeles and the commons in calabasas caruso properties founder and ceo rick caruso. good to have you on the show again. >> thank you, good morning >> the gallup numbers don't bode well for the holiday shopping season but you're feeling
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optimistic why? >> i think there's hope for the holidays i'm not a real fan of these gallium polls or any kind of polls that take a look at a national level, because the reality is the country is very different geographically we'll go into different weather patterns and different types of properties and different types of stores. now, let me tell you what we're seeing on our properties, growth week over week, month over month and seeing a very high conversion guest, meaning the people coming onto the property are spending more, they're converting to greater sales and the convention, the spend is about 40% higher, so we're down on our properties across our portfolio about 10% to 12%, which given the fact that there's less people shows there's really a committed shopper who is looking forward to getting out, having an experience, and is actually buying, but you know, that's our experience we are blessed here in l.a., with good weather, and sunshine, and we have all outdoor
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properties, and we also have, you know, incredible retailers that are best in class >> there's also, though, probably, rick, a ton of pent up demand from being locked down for so long, and there's the impact of the stimulus, and the higher savings rates, which we know are starting to get drawn down i think the question is, how sustainable is the kind of boost that you're seeing >> well, i think it's a fair question, but remember, september was the first month we didn't have stimulus, and we still had growth in sales. in fact, nationally we had growth in sales, almost 2% on retail sales so that does bode well so i think what you're going to see is there may be a tale of two cities as the east coast, the midwest is getting colder, the west coast stays warmer, to see how things play out, but i think your point is a really good point there's pent up demand there is definitely fatigue over covid. people want to get out of their houses they want to have an experience. they want to be with their family and friends
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doing it in a safe way, and i really think people want to celebrate the holidays we sent out 130,000 emails as a survey to customers. 85% reported back that they're going to be on our properties to celebrate the holidays and the number one thing was to have festive decor and the number two was to shop. so i'm feeling good about it, and i think there is going to be a really, really high demand for people to get out of their homes. >> yes, amen to that i think a lot of people feel that way, rick, but at the same time, none of us know how this virus is going to keep moving. unfortunately we're hitting new high case counts you can't predict that either but you seemed fairly confident, if we still continue to go up, are things going to change, i mean go up in terms of new cases every day? >> well, it's a good question. i don't know consumer behavior, we're a little bit more tolerant i think people are more comfortable with safety. i think people now also realize if you wear a mask, and we
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require that on our properties, and you have social distancing, you can be in a much safer environment, so people are out, and i think we all have to learn how to manage this we've learned a lot from it, but there's also, you're right, that fear factor that if it really spikes, more people may stay in. again, i think a lot of it is going to depend on age, demographics, that are going to impact how people really work through the holiday season, if there's a spike in covid >> i see here, rick, that you have been increasing security on your properties, in advance of the election >> yes >> what exactly are you planning for? >> well, listen, obviously we're hoping for the best. we're planning for the worst we have to be careful. we have to protect our guests, and we will. we have to protect our properties if there's going to be protests, which certainly people have the right to do, and we support that, and celebrate that, that's great. if for some reason there's
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people that i would consider to be knuckleheads that want to do things that are destroying property, at our properties or around us, we're going to make sure we're protected so listen, i hope it's going to be peaceful. i don't think we should tolerate, frankly, in this country, anything other than peaceful protests, and i'm hoping that's where everybody decides to do, and to do it in the right way and express their opinions and their voices. >> um-hum. amen to that as well just a question about your tenants and the future of retail we've seen a lot of struggles with mall-based retailers. what would you say distinguishes the winners from the losers right now, and to that question, how many of your tenants are actually back to fully paying rent and good financial shape? >> we're close to 90% of paying rent so we're in good shape. the 10% really reflects smaller retailers that we've been supporting, smaller restaurateurs to get back. we think that's important to be
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supporting small business, because small business in this country just has gotten hit hard, and l.a. very, very hard, about 15,000 businesses have closed so we're doing well. we're happy with that. you're going to have to be innovative as i've said before on this show, the thing that is the risk to retail the most is its current version, and retailers that aren't innovating, that aren't changing, that aren't exciting to walk into their stores, that don't have great omni channel, that doesn't have a really engaging brick and mortar presence and the right locations, they're going to suffer, and i think what you see gap doing, announcing they're going to close the majority of their in-mall stores, 80% of their stores are going to be outside of indoor malls, that's the right thing to be doing because they're following the customer the customer wants to be outdoors they want to be on the streets they want to be in an interesting environment, and it's just covid is the great
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accelerator, and if run a trajectory and not being relevant, you're really not relevant now so great retailers are doing well look at lululemon, look at nike, incredible performance but their stores are engaging and e-commerce is engaging >> you own shopping malls and you're applauding gap for closing stores >> i own indoor malls. thank god, what they said is they will not be in indoor malls. i applaud them for closing stores because what retailers have done over the last decade is built too many stores for the sake of growth, and the reality is, those stores became unproductive, and then they became tdisengaged so what retailers need to do, i think, and you see the good retailers doing it, less stores. they're going to be smaller, i think they're going to be more curated and more local and you're going to see stores shifting out of major metropolitan areas, more into
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neighborhoods. you're going to see our consumers, which you do see, gravitating to the suburban areas. retailers are going to follow them there and they're going to be a smaller format and more productive >> big changes rick caruso, always good to hear from you thank you for joining us >> yes, thank you. all right, let's have our etf spotlight and look at the industrials, ticker xli, some big names in that group reporting earnings including caterpillar, which is under some pressure today, after reporting a 54% drop in earnings for the third quarter. sales did decline across all regions and sectors. you can see it's down about 3% and you also have 3m that did top profit expectations. it was up by strong demand for its health care products amid the pandemic the stock is still down for the year you can see it is off a bit today. as well. we'll take a closer look at results when the ce, off 3m, mike roman joins us.
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♪ good morning, everybody. i'm sue herera here is your cnbc news update at this hour. amy coney barrett is the supreme court's newest justice, sworn in last night shortly after the senate confirmed her nomination. her first votes could include topics including the man who appointed her including a plea from president trump to keep his tax returns from a new york city prosecutor in california, evacuation orders have been issued for more than 100,000 people. southern california edison says its equipment may have sparked the blaze. red flag warnings are set around that state as dry conditions and fierce winds are expected to continue today east of los angeles, the winds have been strong enough to flip tractor trailers onto their sides.
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gusts of more than 65 miles an hour rolled over at least five trucks in philadelphia, violent protests in the wake of a deadly police shooting, 27-year-old walter wallace approached officers with a knife, and ignored orders to drop the weapon the police then opened fire, at least four officers have been hospitalized after reportedly being hit by bricks. you are up to date that is the news update this hour sara, i'll send it back to you >> sue, thank you. sue herera a las vegas sands without vegas? contessa brewer looks at the casino giant's entertaining an offer for its vegas property contessa >> sara, the casino giant confirms very early discussions are taking place over selling its las vegas property nothing has been finalized the venetian pa laz zoe and sands and expo conference center are among the most valuable strip properties, they have some 7,000 rooms but makes up less than 10% of sands erlgz.
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sheldon addelson is focused on asia business and opportunities for growth in macau and singapore. analyst thomas allen points out an offer of $6 billion would be neutral for the share price but china pays a royalty to las vegas of $2 billion. if sands retains the royalty payment allen estimates a $3 boost per share. i asked a company spokesman who is participating in the discussions on the other side of the table. he would not say if there's a for sale sign on the properties. we would not say i just wrapped up an interview with competitor derek stevens who owns the d las vegas and golden gate and launching opening this brand new casino downtown tomorrow. he told me this news is all anybody's talking about in vegas today. >> we were all a little bit surprised about this at this point, but obviously their model is a little bit different as well in las vegas.
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it's convention orientated and going to take a little while for that segment to come back. >> he remains bullish on the future of las vegas, on the return of group business he thinks, and he said so on the third quarter earnings calls that's going to happen sooner than later carl >> yes, it's fascinating, contessa b of a has a note asking who can afford to write a $6 billion check these days it's a great story we know you're on top of it. coming up later, we'll talk about the casino face with jim murren on "squawk alley. amb is finalizing its deal or xilinx we'll be right back. don't go away. >> we really believe that together, we can define the future of high performance computing, and you know i'm a very ambitious person. it's all about what we can do to
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election day is one week from now and cnbc has an all-america economic survey, which candidate would be best for the stock market steve liesman's got that hey, steve >> good morning, carl. it may not be the most important issue in this election but more americans think donald trump would be better for the stock market than former vice president joe biden.
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45% of americans say the stock market will go up in the year if president trump is elected, just 32% say so for biden 25% think it go down if trump is elected, 38% for biden and more biden supporters think the market's going to go up under trump than trump supporters think it will go up under biden. the overall investment numbers we've been chronicling for years, 41 think it's a good time to invest, 35% not it's a little pessimistic relative to the '16 and 2017 but we've recovered a bunch, if you look on the right side of your screen of that pessimism that camealong with the onset of th pandemic when it came to the stock market and the stock market's performance has borne that out one concern of the public, very much like the concern of the stock market is what will happen with stimulus. looking at the right side of your screen there, 49% think the biggest, their biggest worry is the government will spend too little on relief, 39% say too
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much, and that's a reverse you can see of the 2009 crisis, when there was more concern about the government spending too much or concerned about deficits in the public so a lot of support for the stimulus, and finally our top resources rorm former vice president joe biden leading president trump by 11 points in our overall survey of 800 americans with a margin of error 3.5% and that lead has grown from five points to nine points and now it's 11 points david, a lot of ways for the race to still tighten up, but it's a commanding lead for the former vice president. >> nationally, as we know. of course given our electoral college system, it's those battleground states that really matter, steve. but thank you. >> that's why we have our states of place survey, david, come out next week, we do the national with this and then we also have the states that play but looking closely at the battleground states >> i assume coming out before the election >> the day of actually i checked this morning >> the day of, okay. steve, thank you
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as we came into q3 the question of what's happening in the channel around that, we see the distribution partners that we work with in each of these channels, they're cautious as they look into the uncertainty of what's going to be the impact of covid, and they are not driving a big restock. we did see some restocking in health care. i would say medical solutions and oral care for us, we saw restocking through really the first couple of months of the quarter, and then it's been, i say cautious as we move into q4. >> right, but i mean i guess, and you said this as well, your inventory levels, you said count on us to make sure our inventory levels from a velocity perspective keep improving, but i guess it's very difficult as the pandemic continues to go on here to figure out how, where your production levels should
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be, isn't it >> yes, there's a lot of uncertainty out there. we still have our guidance suspend suspended, so we are cautious as we move ahead. we expect some of the trends in the markets to continue. we did high light on the call that we saw electedtening as we september into october we're managing our inventory around the demand that we're seeing, and we've got almost half of our businesses are down seeing declines in their end markets year over year so we're managing businesses that are down significantly at the same time, we're managing businesses like our personal safety business that's got big uptick in demand, so we're managing our production levels around that, we're managing our supply chains around that, and our inventory we did make good progress in q3. we saw strong demand driving and i think we reacted effectively to it. one of the things i highlighted is how we've become much better at reacting quickly to the changes that we're seeing in the market, that's been something our teams have focused on and
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really a strength as we go forward. so we do expect to be able to manage through those, that uncertainty and be able to continue to improve our velocity on our internal inventory, and then we're also watching closely what's happening in the channels that we work with. >> i'm sure something else you're watching closely is simply sort of how the virus is progressing, unfortunately, through the population, both here and around the world. i mean, i know you have multiple scenarios, i would assume you're gaming out in terms of some of the things we talked about, mike, but what are your best guesses in terms of what it means on the positive side for some of your businesses and on the negative for others? >> well, it really is the big factor out there as covid goes, so go the economies. we aren't even putting guidance in for q4, because the uncertainty we see we see trends in the early parts of october, as we've come through to date. the trends that are similar to what we saw in september, so we're seeing strong demand, as you would expect, in our
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personal safety products, personal protective equipment. home improvement continues to see strong demand. we see strong demand in digital firsts kinds of impact like our data centers we see strong demands on biopharma filtration at the same time we see softness in areas like office products and hospitality, boil and gas, all areas that we see continuous -- so the trends have continued early. october, the uncertainty says we've got to be ready for, as you said, multiple scenarios, so we are managing daily rhythm really as we execute it's really i think part of what i compliment our team on, executing well in q3 was managing that daily rhythm around our operations. >> yes, mike, it's a great point and something that's come up repeatedly this quarter with companies who saw sharp spikes in demand back in the spring, whether it's consumer products or in this case medical equipment. i wonder, i mean, generally the point has been no one was in position to account for such a
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rapid rise in demand over the course of just a couple of weeks back then. now it's a much different story than is that generally true? is it generally true that the shortages like we saw in the spring would be virtually impossible now >> well, the changes we saw in the spring and our markets, carl, they were significant, and we did incredible job i think of responding to the outbreak of the pandemic in areas where we saw big uptick in demand, personal protective equipment. we followed through on our commitments to double our production in the early weeks of the pandemic and add capacity through our own investments and partnership with the department of defense we've now followed through on that and added that capacity to be stepping into what we saw as a potential for a second wave of covid cases, and we followed through on the commitment to bring over 200 million respirators in from production overseas into the u.s. because of the demand here, and so we have found ways to react and
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react to those changes the uncertainty says we are going to see more change, as we move ahead i think the magnitude of some of these areas won't be as big a step up partly because we're better prepared. we are bringing capacity on. we're making more n-95 respirators than ever and continue to add capacity into the end of the year into next year i think we're better prepared is part of the answer, carl, of why we will be ready to react and smooth out some of those big, big changes that we might see. >> mike, it's sara that's certainly good to hear, as we see these record case numbers, and we look to our hospitalizations, which are higher again, but i asked you this a few months ago. we're now in month eight why still do we not have enough n95s that consumers, like you and i, can go out to the store and buy them to better protect ourselves for this virus >> yes, there's a strong consumer demand out there for
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n95s they have a strong reputation and they're recommended for the best protection. we've been, as you know, sara, focused on prioritizing health care workers and first responders and that's been the case as we ramped up our production and delivered now on track to deliver 2 billion n 95 respirators, still globally in the u.s. it's focused on the first responders and health care workers on the front lines and to a degree, we've been supporting the reopening of the economies and some of the critical industries out there, also supporting the fight with the pandemic, so we have had three priorities as we've gone through the pandemic as a company, protect our employees, fight the pandemic from every angle and deliver for our customers and shareholders and focus on the execution that we need to do around those. that fighting the pandemic is still front and center, and so what we are doing with our n-95 production is helping to get that to the front lines of those health care workers, first responders and working in
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partnership with organizations like health and human services to make sure we're focused on the hot spots. that still is the priority we'll continue to look for ways to support consumers, and our consumer teams are looking at innovative, new mask kinds of solutions, in addition to the n95 respirators, so we'll work to respond to that as well >> interesting new math solutions essentially. where does that stand? what is the likelihood of it receiving some sort of emergency approval and being on the market and when would that be >> we have great partners as you know we have low cost saliva based, paper based test that give you rapid response to covid-19 testing. we are -- we completed our laboratory testing we're now working with an independent lab to validate against live samples, blind
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testing. looking at confirming the level of detection, sensitivity. so work is we're in the middle of now that is still development work from there, we would -- if everything went well, we would be looking at working with the fda on a emergency use authorization which would be first half of next year kind of time frame so this is a, you know, i would say we're in that evaluation, validation and development phase with our partners. >> mike, always appreciate you joining us and giving us an update on the business and the efforts being made to combat the virus. thank you. >> thank you, david. >> mike roman, ceo of 3m. >> quick break, later on "closing bell," we'll have big guests lined up for the hour including twilio jeff lawson, robin hayes and a lot more all starts at 3:00 p.m. eastern time today
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yesterday's big selloff. industrials, though, as you can see here among the worst performing sectors so far. and that includes the airline stocks that move lower comes on the heels of a nearly $400 million loss from non-s&p 500 component jetblue. they expect an uptick in bookings for day season. we continue to see a rise in coronavirus case as cross the u.s. i know sara eisen, the "closing bell" is always a packed show. but you'll be talking about the airlines very specifically i'm looking forward to the interviews that you got coming up, sara >> thank you very much for that shoutout yes, we have the jetblue ceo on to talk about that and a whole lot more on "closing bell. let's talk amazon now. gearing up for a busy holiday season we have more on the big hiring plans. frank? >> good morning, sara. amazon announcing they will hire 100,000 seasonal employees to help handle a holiday peak that
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is expected to see historic volumes. this is actually a 50% decline from last year's seasonal hiring more than half of these workers will work at the fulfillment centers or sorting packages. it follows the 100,000 full time employees last no and more than 300,000 total since march to meet this elevated demand. amazon self delivery spiked 44% higher year over year in september. during this spike, amazon signature two day prime service saw the on time delivery fall from 96% to below 89% this september. the company adding more than 100 operational buildings in 2020 to help increase delivery speed amazon says california, texas, maryland, georgia, and new jersey are the top five states where they wire. >> we have identified the areas of strategic points that allow us to meet customer demand >> and, of course, safety during this recent spike in covid-19 really a key concern amazon recently disclosed 20,000
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of their employees have tested positive the company showing us thermal scanners that check employee temperatures on arrival as well as scanner called a distant assistant that noitifies employees when they're within six feet of each other safety measures are in place of all the sites. how will the holiday hires help with safety and employees staying socially distant or will they allow employees to take more breaks? the company said they couldn't answer that question carl, back to you. >> all right frank, obviously one of the stories we usually love to cover, this year more than most because of the seasonal hire coming up on "squawk alley," we're going to have more on amd finalizing that $35 billion deal for xilinx we're just off session lows in the s&p 500 sitting right at 3400 dot ay.n'gowa
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