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or scrap it on boxing day and maybe spord atcally throughout the year maybe you think the same, mel. ont a monster has been black ste. look my mission is simple to make you money. i am board to level the plain field for all investors there is always a bull market some where and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now hey, i am cramer, welcome to "mad money," i want to make friends and trying to make you some money my job not only to entertain but to educate and teach and put in context, call me, 1-800-743-cnbc or tweet me @jim cramer. we used to call it the santa market rally when the whole market roars
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this is not your typical santa claus moves. the market did not see the ghost of christmas futures i am not saying santa is not real or we are getting alum lumf coal in our portfolio this year. we have bets being made from all different directions contradictory bet that is are sticky it don't make any sense when you put it all together. sooner or later someone has to be wrong for the momentthough, christma joy abounds and wall street gamblers moving up their favorite stock with their buyers you know what is it like it is almost like horse race ready to roll. so which ones are getting the biggest money down the odds are changing every
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single minute. there is so much money being bet on different stocks. first, we have vaccines. yes, people are betting on vaccines, those believe that moderna will join pfizer with the vaccines and we have more vaccines on the way. i think vaccines take the race if j&j is the jockey if we can get pfizer and moderna and j&j's vaccines, we can have the only person in america who believes we can have a glut in this country and with the vaccine glut we can start to live without fear again even if not everyone takes the darn thing if vaccine wins, the horse race, everyone does better when the world goes back to normal. all those stocks were bought today. you can see the pattern. it never stops
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b i would say the vaccine is four to one shot. pfizer does not have enough doses to do the job. if j & j runs in second position, lockdown. people are betting on lockdown in new york city with the restaurants, right they see the virus is out of control and shutting down part of their economy either way is a recipe for a recession. nobody wants that. this is throwing money at the people a lockdown with no federal assistance is devastating. remember there are some winner lockdowns. we should call lockdown by its nickname, faang.
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third pony no lockdown. case loads and we got heavy money coming in on no lockdown you can tell because all the non-essential retailers are flying some investors sold garden variety tax stocks how about the trickiest bets some people are betting that congress may pass another stimulus package then there is no stimulus which is disaster when paired with lockdown now let's step away from the ponies let's talk about a complete another -- let's ditch the metaphor entirely, i can do that because i had the show for 15 years. there is a ton of money on the sidelines with investors who can't wait to get in we hear the cast levels are low
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and mutual funds i don't care about that. what matt eers is the carbon ts sideline $5 trillion, make it so you possibly can retire? you think it is a good bet that money is time, it is time for that money to move people want to get some returns. if you want returns, yes, i hate that only game in town thing you can't make up new stuff every night. i talk to a lot of investors and the overwhelming sentiment right now is enough already. i want to owe more stocks. there are a ton of professionals out there who tells you these buyers are too late and amateurs and all over these websites. i want to educate. i got to get these new people in i say it depends, if we get a vaccine, you are going to have a gloomy economy and the market will roar. that's a big "if." opportunities is really working and let me tell you how we know
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this apple. the most important stock of this market is not tesla or amazon or something that's seeking alpha no, it is apple. this thing has been treading water for ages we heard apple boosting iphone orders some 30%s to a year ago i am sure the bear is going to shoot it tomorrow. if this is the case, everything and everyone in the iphone food chain can beat expectations. that's a ton of stocks if the story is true, you can buy anything that's what people did today apple is that important. it roared. this thing was up 5% you know what i think? how about own apple, don't trade it no one talked about this i love it. maybe people are afraid. mitch mcconnell finally did
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unthinkable. he congratulated president-elect biden. yesterday the electoral college, if there is any doubt of who would be the next occupant of the white house is now over. wall street hates uncertainty. we didn't know if republican leadership will accept the results and you don't know if the court will agree with the guy. why does it matter when you take the presidential election off the picture, get it out of the equation. maybe congress can pass the stimulus package to protect people with small businesses we are finally getting to the point. this is something -- it is starting to bug me we'll have at-home covid testing. it is not run by doctors or these testing companies or any of that nonsense we have all these difficult ways
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to stop the pandemic masks and physical distancing and stay-at-home we are failing because the american way is to give me convenience or death today this convenient at-home test got approved. every morning you stick a q-tip up your nose and find out if you are sick or not. you know the number of case loads are plummeting australia and poland is going in the same direction and america, think about it. we have ridiculous approach of testing, once a week or maybe when you don't feel well and you fie find the results a couple days later. by that time, you infected everyone at work or school you are the midwest distributor.
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this is crazy. if you can take an at home test every morning, you will catch the virus before you are infectious and then you stay home you know what happens then you stop the pandemic. and i think we are closer to beating this thing, assuming that you buy that rosie scenario like i do, you need to owe some techs and industrials and travels. at-home testing and possible stimulus deal. i worry about being too bearish or not being bullish enough. >> let's go to valentino in illinois >> booyah, jim >> booyah! >> how is your day going i am seeing all these marijuana
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pops i don't like cannabis, go ahead. >> i want to know what is your thought on work force, do you think is a good buy right now? >> you know i am a show hor horse -- workhorse easy money is cool in a couple of days. people can't revissist ev. i need brad if tennessee, please >> booyah, booyah, jimmy >> what's going on >> happy holidays. i bought some fitbit stock right around the acquisition by google at $6.13 cents per share i want to get your take and what's the future? >> i think we move on. i would be moving on >> all right, guys the market
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action is telling us all this is happening. now, you merceday disagree withy bit of it. i worry about not being bullish enough and you got the election over and the electoral college, who knew that was important? on "mad money" tonight, is it under the radar way to play out of covid-19. is it time to consider avantar and i'm siting down with the ceo of lululemon ring in the new year with profits? yeah, i am going to sit down with flad, the ceo stay with cramer don't miss a second of "mad money. follow @jim cramer on twitter. have a question? tweet cramer, #madtweets send jim an e-mail to madmoney.cnbc.com, or give us a call at 1-800-743-cnbc
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when the pandemic first hit, what did i tell you to do? buy the arms what happens you get protection from covid-19 these companies are to the entire industry and not just the approval process take avanta. half their businesses is by
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pharma how censored are these guys? when you look at the top 20 drugs -- avantor became public in may of last year. since the ipo, the stock is 96%. can it keep climbing let's take a closer look with the president and ceo of avantor. mr. doublefield, welcome to "mad money. >> thanks for having me, nice to be with you again. >> you have been at the heart of all of these, why are these vaccines so different cuicult t? we need a billion. what can we do to speed up the process and typically the
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therapeutic which is really difficult to make. can you walk us through because you are key to everything? >> i think you got the story right, jim we are excited of the role that we play here and bringing the end to the pandemic. we are helping with the development of technologies that we are all familiar with things like mrna, there is never been any approved therapy, they're using that technology. we are on the cutting edge of science here and the value of science have been on display these technologies have been incubated in the lab for quite some time but never been scaled to the types o f numbers and doses that we'll need to produce here to bring this pandemic to an end the other thing is the types of materials that you need and the purities that are required, these are really sophisticated technologies it takes companies like avantor and others to produce these
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ultrahigh impurity materials at scale. we could not be more excited of how things are evolving. >> let's go back to 11 months, we have big thinkers came on our show and says it takes four years. minimum of four years. what happens that it did not take four years. it is a miracle chen ywhen you k about it >> it has moved a bit and companies like us and our customers and everybody is working around the clock to be able to bring these technologies to market. but, you think about mrna, the technology, you know pfizer vaccine was approved last week and we were thrilled to see the truckloading out of their factory and moderna's technology is getting approved later this
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week but, that technology really got a jump start when genetic code of the virus dna is published earlier in the year, with that as a starting point, scientists been able to accelerate the development and the real challenge with that technology is the scale-up. and nobody has ever been able to produce the pipes of quality that we are talking about here we see the number of players we had to put in place in order to produce the number of doses that we are getting at here this is sophisticated technology moving out >> i thought in your presentation, you said "i have never seen an order book that looks like what we have today. business is very strong in that particular part of operation >> our order book in our bio production business, the platform that serves all the
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various therapies. as you suggest in your introduction, we'll be relevant across all therapeutics and across cardio vascular or diagnostic our order books have more than doubled. the piece is anticipation of ramping in producing these vaccines more than half of it or close to 75% of comes in our core body business, just to support the base therapies that drive our business on a precovid basis >> you did drop the word al alzheimer's in the evercore and maybe having some success, sir >> they are. one of the neat things of these novel technologies that's being developed, it is enabling to treat diseases and indications that we never had solutions for. that's the power of these
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biological solutions you see it comes to bear here and even on the vaccine for example. 95% of efficacy of the vaccine, if you compare that to other vaccines like the flu using older technology, that vaccine is 50% or 60% effective at best. and so these new novel technologies that are personalized in nature certainly really enabling and cures on a lot of diseases. >> you did say at one point companies may be a little aggressive given where they are in terms of the numbers of vaccines i think if j&j works or moderna, we can have a vaccine glut by april. bring it in a little >> when you look at when this is publicly announced, moderna
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anticipation, and getting their approval this week they said they can produce 500 million those and pfizer saying they're can produce 1.2 billion dosing or something like that. the next round of approval is going to need to come from j&j and astrazeneca. obviously to bring this pandemic to an end, we need to produce north of 5 million some of these therapies are going to be apart of these doses. moderna and pfizer, both requires a couple of doses that's still a billion and a half patients that gets treated. >> well, look, still plenty of hope i will take a billion. how about that
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let's talk lululemon the king of leisure put up some high numbers we are talking about 94%
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direct consumer countdowns 43% of lulu's business the company is doing so well that they rolled out a new $500 million buy back. who the heck buy back stocks the company is doing incredibly well what happens if the stock goes down it is still down $13 the reason management is still not providing further. i think there is a sense of business may deteriorate once everyone is vaccinated the last time lululemon reported great quarter was in september is h i sistory is repeating itsf don't take it from me, take it from calvin mcdonald, the ceo of lululemon. >> excited to be here, jim >> you have done a few things. these seem to be the trail record for lululemon
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>> well, they definitely, the area we are focused on in terms of innovation across organization with the goals to double our mens and individualal and quadruple or international business we are early endings across our growth, we are excited of the future >> now, let's attack it head on. lulu's business will be hurt by the vaccine returning to normalcy i can't believe you think that's going to occur why don't you give us why you are not worried of a vaccine >> um, well, absolutely we are not. we don't see any dramatic impact in the production of the momentum of the business let's start with the momentum we had coming into 2020, coming off of 2019 was an incredible year for us we know there are a lot of drivers of growth within the
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marketplace and the pandemic happened and there is some reflection points across, they become more digital and they're living more active lives and the role that's versatile apparel in expectations of what they wear those are all drivers moving forward post pandemic. you combine those and early stages of our growth and innovation i don't see any real material impacts slowing our business down and we are committed to our analyst days, goals of 2023. i am excited for the next few years and beyond >> sounds like you think the crisis can validate. maybe actually country - i love your company, country or maybe rural. what towards lulu likes and what
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lulu wants >> we play a unique role in the category our vision is to be an experimental brand and ignite the community for people to live the sweat life we are excited where we are in the journey and creating that vision we know we have a lot of opportunity and growth in product and innovation, we have been bringing it we have the pipeline full for the years to come. the army guest experience were early endings creating that both digital and physical there is not a market we are in today that we are not seeing incredible growth both in our physical and digital these are early markets and only a few years in showing great potential and growth it really is an exciting business and brand with a lot of growth ahead of us >> with the chinese handling the pandemic in a sense that let's
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say of great maturity. if i went to tier one or two store, would there be a line or is it hard to get into is it jammed >> our business in china has been for a few years foeperformg incredibly well. we had 15 stores, we'll end this year close to 45 our physical presence is growing and our online business is doing well we are building the community with local ambassadors and studios. so all the right key drivers are fuelling the momentum in the business and our store basis split now between tier one and tier two city. we are seeing continual growth and success and we are really excited with the way that the brand is resonating with the guests and sweat life. every time i go to china and unfortunately i got there early last year and i have not been able to get back, it is
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inspiring with the energy of the adoption of the sweat life in the community we serve we are huge growth ahead in china as in many other international markets. >> our company digital operating markets, 40% plus, they are the leader in ecommerce. can that continue? is it sustainable? >> we view our margins mixed through an army lens our store is incredible even if q-3 with the lower productivity number, we saw margin mark in 22% above. as you negative our ecommerce, our margins are 17 points above of that. we have two healthy and productive channels. we manage the business through mix of margins and we'll continue to do so and remain committed to the margin forecast we share at our analyst day and
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excited about how guest adoption and what we see dthrough the pandemic and it is only going to enhance our ability to keep growing our relationship that we have and engage in conversations with them which helps adding and derivedi driving the sales of business. >> someone on air took a shot at one of my favorite products. they say mirrors are not doing that well. i have no evidence that it is not doing incredibly well. so let's set the record straight are you happy with it? >> the business is only two years old and this is its third holiday. we express earnings call that we'll do an accept of $150 million revenue at only second year. we are just at the beginning stages at mirror the plan is to roll it out to hundreds next year there is not another at-home
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option that has the ability to have that sort of footprint to create awareness and you tap into our ambassadors and our community of instructors that are on mirror, we are very excited of how it plays into our strategy of community and connecting to the guests and living the sweat life. we had a very good holiday and i am super excited with that business moving forward. >> i want to thank you for coming on "mad money." you know we have been friends for many, many years calvin mcdonald, ceo of lululemon. great to see you sir >> thanks, jim >> this is a second opportunity again. just like last time, you are getting another, i can't believe it "mad money" is back after the break. this holiday at t-mobile, get an iphone 12 with 5g on us
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what do we do with the covid during the winter time it brings down double year to date and it got a gorgeous chart. i am a big believer in this business you know that. we are not just going back to where we were before this. and many newly remote jobs will stay that way even when we reach herd immunity. we met this team when the stock was in the 60s it is now at $353, at an all time high. the stock obviously is lefty
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level. last week ring central had a big new deal tonight we learn they are launching big. team messaging and file share. let's take a closer look with the ceo of ring central. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim thank you so much for having me. >> all right this product seems like it has the best of every single one of them at the same time, how does ring central crack into a team's client or zoom >> we got pretty good reputation as well for our sales force. we do have a unique set of
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partnership. we have at&t and etcetera and etcetera, we do have direct pass we added another 35 million users opportunity. we are doing pretty well look, is not about competing with microsoft or cisco or anyone else. it is about offering the best and most complete and most sensible product for today's time what we know the world is changing it changed last year with covid
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and it is changing again the world is going from work at home to work hybrid. what is hybrid some are at home some are traveling people still need to work as a team cohesively and with our new introduction today, what we do is we do hundreds and hundreds of features of high value features that others are charging for we made it available for free. our organization of any type can immediately leverage this new technology >> yeah, you have 200 million users in the partnership everyone takes it, it is free. >> well, there are things that are free, there are things that are not free so, what is free
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video and messaging and seam lessly integrated and it is available for free when we say free, we don't skip on features. 24 hours consecutive region. it is still free, okay we offer professional level features already included. we don't limit the number of team members we don't limit accounts like some other companies do. >> so how much did the pandemic increase your business and i want to go back to that term you use hybrid how much is there going to be in grained and do you think people will still have a lot of business travel, are they going
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to say ring central makes it so i can save money for my company. what do you think of business travel until the future and ring central in the future? >> yeah. i do feel it is hybrid it is universal. some people will be in at home some of the time and some people will be in the office and many people will go back and forth. before or the last few months this year, it was okay to just have this joint meeting, you dial in and you do your conversation and you are done. what the world, what our customers are telling us is they need a persuasive experience what we are able to achieve is we are able to provide pre,
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during and post meeting experience because of this introduction of team messaging, people can post their documents and files into the comment group. before the meeting and during the meeting as they can also engage in private conversations. this conversation does not die when the meeting is finished they can look at their notes that's the differentiated feature. everything is enable with ai we have closed captioning and we have transcriptions. you can go back after the meeting and review what was said and you can share comments and assign tasks and be productive >> sounds like the better mouse trap to me i like all these products. the world has changed very much. the chairman and ceo of ring
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>> booyah, jimmy >> yo! >> it is the chilled man this stock has been trading the same range in five years and broke to a new highs last week they're set to deliver the first heavy electric trucks for a private program to customers in l.a. and long beach and they claim they'll be the first company bringing the prototype being introduced to 2021 >> what's the stock? toyota >> huh >> oh, toyota. i happen to think the japanese mark market is gigantic i really like that call. you want your own show, i will put you on reddit. toyota is a great stock to own
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for all the reasons you just point out. let's go to anthony in new york. >> booyah, jim. >> i am calling about uber technology >> yeah, i actually liked their division, i went out there and saw that with a volvo. i like uber eats very much let the stock cool off a little bit. do a little bit of a roll over it is 51 how about 46 use 46 as a benchmark that you can get it i want to go to jackson in alabama. >> booyah, jimmy >> what do you think is now the time to double down and buy some more home depot. >> let me put it this way? >> i think the world of home depot is fabulous. i got to tell you, my money right now is on lowe's >> people right now don't
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understand that they are making a huge amount on home depot. i am involved with the idea that lowe's is going to triumph in terms of getting its act together home depot keeps on getting a's. >> mike in virginia. >> jim, how are you doing? >> i am doing okay, thank you for asking >> go birds! >> you never know an act division >> it is unbelievable. go ahead >> the satellite, what's the upside >> oh, sirius satellite. >> oh, i like it very much i think it is terrific i am not going to back away. let's go to karen in wisconsin >> hey, jim. finally. >> yo! >> how are you cramer? >> i am not bad, thank you for asking, how about you?
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>> i am really well, thank you i have been calling for five days i have telecom industry. >> you got a winner. they had one bad quarter, people overlooked it. they're really terrific. i am going to buy it here even though it had that dip i think it is okay let's go to jim sm-- who is that i like to know who the heck that is i am going to violate the sanctity control to track that fella down or woman. let's go to jim in new york. >> hey, i was following you the other day. i got a similar one, glsi. >> i am not going to be a buyer on that one. i am not sure how good it is i am going to tell you what i would do i am going to go to ka-ching when it come to that one >> let's go to maria
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>> long time listener here >> trit. this is a trade finance. it came public by a month ago. >> why not just buy bitcoin? bitcoin is really interesting. i think you go with bitcoin. i have been a big fan of bitcoin, everybody knows it if you follow me on twitter and that, ladies and gentlemen, that's the conclusion of "the lightning round. "the lightning round" is sponsored by t.d. ameritrade
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once people are vaccinated, the world can go back to normal. that's when we'll find out which of our pandemic behaviors are temporary and which are permanent. big guessing game on wall street right now. we developed a lot of new habits the past few months. we have fallen in love with tdc.
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i think there is no going back when you see lululemon got 43% from ecommerce and those ecommerce margins are much higher than brick and mortar ones you know it is the future. why would they try to sell you something in the store when they cancel it can canc can sell it to you directly on the internet the brand is so great that people don't mind. when you see william sonoma getting 70% of ecommerce business you know people like cook ware going to the doors when nike reports on friday, i bet something similar. we all know our shoes size and we are happy to get our sneakers without going to the store
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some of this is the virus but there is more to it. what else is driving the direct consumer story first, it is taking so much time and time is precious a company like stitch fix has been successful because the ceo knows that their clients don't have time to shop but they still want to be dressed you never have to leave the comfort of your home second is convenient buying something from your computer or your phone is simpler than buying it in person when you already know your size and knows exactly what you need. why bother going to the store? let alone the covid infested mall third is automation, amazon figured this out first, why go to the store for simple things when you can buy them online and get them delivered forever sure, you can hit up the drugs store when you run out of soap, oh, i got to get some soap but
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you can set up automatic delivery so you never go out of soap again my daughter recently went to buy a washer machine, she never went to the store until she knew who had it and what's the cheapest how long when you press the button before it shows up in your house amazon is a big winner here. because they have been leading the directive consumer chart the latest target is my favorite way to play this. they bought shipt. hey, get me a belt, oh, shipt will bring it. we time it and see how fast they can bring it oh, shipt is here. it is exciting for us. most of us don't even have cars though look, i know people are supposed to like going to the mall,
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shopping was once america's national past times, times have changed. thanks to the pandemic, we all learn learned it is easier to get stuff directly i would like to say there is always a bull i'm shepard smith on cnbc, and this is the news >> the efficacy, of course, is strong at 95%. >> another dose of hope. the moderna vaccine proves highly effective now the fda signals we could see a second vaccine approved within days >> i want to congratulate president-elect joe biden. >> moving forward. with 36 days until inauguration, top republicans finally accept reality. >> i called him to thank him for the congratulations. >> down to the wire. bills piling up, ren

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