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sell upside for it. >> and i think it is dorkable. i'm with guy he's talking tlt, i think the treasury yields are topping out soon. >> thank you for watching "fast money. enjoy halloween and be safe out there. we'll see you tomorrow at 5:00 with , but to teach you educate. there are three words that
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define this market. source of funds. the first time i heard this phrase, source of funds was at a meeting of the foundation wanting to put more money into treasuries. we have a list of stocks we like more than others but he said these stocks are sources of funds. right now hedge funds and every measure in the world are using tech stocks to buy stocks. so, while the dow fell 129 points today and yes, we lost 7.5%, the nasdaq which is tech heavy 1.3%. you need healthcare and robotics stocks to start. they have now and maybe a few months
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from now and then with the banks, no matter what because it makes them more profitable. to have much better risk because the balances americans are so great. can we pay for this? it's easy, from the sources of funds, that's where. the most obvious sources of funds are data, appa apple, tesla, microsoft and anything semi conductor. it's a two-step process. first they sell their sources of funds when the market is overbought. we are very overbought right now . closing last week at 8.5 which means you have to hold your nose and sell something because we are due for a pullback. the odds are so great of the
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pullback to occur, no matter it oscillated today. right now it is way too greedy which means money manager sell first and ask questions about what by later. there's just one problem, the source of funds. the source of funds themselves. some are worse than others and i want to walk you through the differences given that many of you still own some of them. let's face it, everybody owns some of them. we recognize the big tech names are going down and we have no illusions about it. we might have sentimental attachment but we need to be rational and know they are sources of funds for the other stocks i mentioned. the stocks will be sold with
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reckless abandon. we may need to figure out which ones should stop being sources of funds because after another bad days, they will have come down too much. in other words, the velocity of decline is so great that there may be opportunity, but not yet. there is one exception and that is the stock of apple. it could hurt iphone production but let me play devils advocate here. i don't believe there is a covid issue in china and they keep shutting down everything to protect their people even though all of this could be avoided was shots from moderna. i would say this about the president who is a man of conviction even though they are dead wrong. in a inclusive interview, the ceo told me they have so many buyers for everything that i don't even skip a beat with this
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closure. and there were worries about there being too many iphones and now there is a scarcity factor. i do think that apple is fine for now and that apple will be good for a long time. i want you to own it and not trade it but apple is a tech company and its stock trades like a tech stock. i see immense and no loyalty because it is tech stock. silicon valley with the best prices and eat those to delivering the best product and every customer is right. and there is another product they sell including the 900 million people with some kind of apple subscription. apple is a hard stock to sell. i would rather bide my time and this is one i would not let go. when it comes
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to the rest of tech, it's a black box and we don't know enough to make real judgments here. much is going well and horse the web services are buying. the cycle is getting long in the tooth. unfortunately the microsoft main product is still windows. we may have to wait until the company anniversary to see slow sales and that will be nine months before we see a bounce back. i think microsoft will be a major source of funds and too many worries about the cloud and pc. there could be a hedge fund or mutual fund that needs cash. apple looks like and easy source of funds because it does so much advertising, but there's a problem with that. the stock sells less than 20 times its earnings which is leading less than its compadre
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. i think they will have truth in advertising and now the ad business has gone up, they will scale back appropriately. it's too late to sell this one and i am tempted to buy if the market is not overbooked. amazon keeps me up at night because they need to fire and army of people. it's like the war ended and they need to send recruits hom . if they can pull off the layoffs, the stock goes up and if they cannot, it goes down. i believe the ceo will do it which makes amazon a bad sale but not a better sources of funds. they are neighbor to every bad end market and are all viewed as sources of funds. the semi's are defenseless. he is being
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clubbed over the head like a big seal and i think the semi's will remain funds until there is consolidation in the industry . until the president lifts the regulation on ship cells. watch tomorrow, it missed the estimates tonight. i would love to see it bounce on a miss but it hasn't happened yet. tesla is a cold stock and less likely to become a source of funds unless it becomes a source of funds for elon musk purchasing twitter. talk about throwing good money after bad, as long as he doesn't sell som , i wouldn't sell any either. then there is meta-which will be a source of funds until the come funds come home or until mass firings are announced. who knows when and where that
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will be. let's say that's why we downgraded for the trust. bottom line, now you know what portfolio managers are talking about and thinking when talking to clients. they are addressing the issue and you know why? the period of tech has been overthrown and nobody wants to go near these things. these are the sources of funds needed to buy them and if they go up, it could be a gift. joe in new jersey, joe. >> hello kramer and thank you for taking my call. >> of course. >> i want you to know the most i got out of watching your show is to stay diverse of wide. >> that's what i teach, thank you very much. many people bet it all on tech. how can i help? >> should i add to my existing position of pepsi?
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>> this is tough as pepsico is one of my all-time favorites. it did hidden all-time high and the market is overbought. there is no reason to buy the stock of pepsico and that from somebody who likes it very much. let's go to jacob. >> what's going on? >> i was going to ask you about this stock that doesn't look too good but i am bearish on it. it is closure to e-commerce and emerging markets but i am not sure how the election will come. i'm looking to take a chunk out of the market cap. >> i don't like the way politics are shaping up in latin america. they seem to have gone back to the days where the middle class gets in trouble. the upper class, no, but the
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middle class so i think, let's stay concerned and stay away. now let's go to todd in florid . >> and they just increase their dividend but the stock price is down and i wonder what your take is on that? >> i was looking at that today. i think the crown castle is a good stock. and tech has been overgrown and nobody wants to go near these things right now but remember the three words that define this market, source of funds. and cruising higher in the last couple of weeks, could this just be the beginning of a larger move? and then larry williams is charged for calling this like no one else. what can you expect from now to the end of
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the year? and could trash become treasure for your pork polio? i'm digging into a company that we haven't seen 14 years on the show, republic services. stay with kramer. >> follow jim cramer on and send questions to him at cnbc.com or give us a call at 800-743-tiki10. you can head to cnbc .com. >> wherever you get your older kal penn.
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new class of winners emerging this season. these stocks are trading very, very, very low and wall street figured they would never make the numbers. when wall street confessed and shave their numbers down, everybody rallied. it was a less-than-perfect quarter last thursday but the company managed to beat the earnings as intimate despite a short fall. it is really a shake down and it is somewhat disappointing. after initially opening down, the stock rallied finishing up more than 2%. why? the stock still traded at the ridiculous seven times earnings. the dollar disruptions caused by hurricane ian and it sounds a lot like a semi conductor. is it safe to shave this back now the numbers have come down?
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let's go to david who was the ceo on the show and you've heard them before. welcome. >> thank you, it's great to be here. >> it is tough and it may be toughest for you. you need to figure out to expand or not expand and there is so little inventory that you have no choice and other say, let's have the cash. >> we have a strategy but we exist for the long term and having a balance sheet allows us to do that and still be secure with the headwinds we are facing at the moment. it is 30% up earnings per share
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and we expect a fourth quarter to be strong as well. still 40% up even though we are lacking in acquisition. i would say we have a strong business with extremely strong cash flow and we are able to modulate expenses and advanced through the cycle for the long-term and make sure we exit this pullback in the markets very strongly. >> so we have current evidence, how is it going? >> it was in extremely strong show for us with good attendance and all of our products did well. one was up 30% revenue this year versus last year. mercury had 70% of all of the out board motors at
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the show. in extraordinary performance from our propulsion brand which you know is the biggest part of our enterprise. really good buyer wrecked to vitti and you wouldn't necessarily expect that but we have extreme strength in premium and overall fiberglass brand. as you mentioned, pipeline is very low. >> what you have lacks one par , can't you just go to whoever that is and say, you are destroying my quarter and i need that part now? does it work like that? >> to some extent, you have had those conversations and i've had my share of those but we have managed supply chain well this year and through last year.
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if you look overall avatar engine production versus plan and boat production versus pla , they will be on or close to plan. even with the ebbs and flows of supply chain and certainly q3 was a challenge. on annual basis, we have worked it out. >> there were times where there were too many boats and inventory and it did pay to sell your stock. i want to be sure that is definitely not the case right now. >> it is definite lee not the case right now. in fact if you look at the u.s. market, our biggest presence, inventory is down 45% from 2019 which was the last pre-covid benchmark. if you look at fiberglass boat inventories, they are down 60%
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from where we are in 2019. we are working hard to fulfill demand and to refill significantly depleted pipelines. >> the business has created a new class of buyers or is it a good standalone business? >> it is fantastic and i just heard we passed 370 mobile locations and we are just about to open a new location in puerto rico and we opened one in scotland. it is global now with more than 80,000 members. so it is going from strength to strength and a much bigger part of our portfolio now and incredible synergy with the rest of the business. there are brunswick boats and parts and accessories and utilization through freedom and
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it's a powerful and growing part of the business that we are excited about. >> i think your stock would go up if the world was ending. it's great to have you as always. >> it is a pleasure, jim, thank you for having me. coming up, there's nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. don't be spooked with the halloween edition of off the charts, next.
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with this terrific october event. did you know who called it? larry williams who is been the number one expert in this space since i was a kid. he has written books and created his own proprietary indicators and his website is called i really trade.calm. i say all the time it is off the charts with larry and it is important to remember that he is the one and only guy who called the bottom and april 2020 when the world was worried about covid and covid lockdowns and he did the opposite and said business would be back to usual within a month and that was one of the best calls i have seen until recent lee. at the beginning of this month, larry explained that the bear market did everybody thought we were in the midst of was toast. who else did that, especially in laid-off tovar.
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>> sure enough, stocks have had and amazing move in the last few weeks and nobody called it but this man. patterns reliably repeat themselves and when you find them, they can help steer you in the right direction. when he told us the seasonal patterns were about to turn bullish on the market would head to hibernation, that is a market contrarian call. everyone was afraid it was worse the bed to increase rates aggressively and of course the stock market and there wasn't evidence it was making progress. williams looked at the patterns and predicted the market would catch fire anyway, whether there was progress or not by the fed. since then might be moderate which may give the fed a reason to be not as ruthless. i listen to larry and you can't
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bet against this man. what are we seeing now? if the bear market is toast, he is saying now we are looking at toast with jam. you remember larry's true seasonal pattern in blue? here is and up dated version and what he pronounced with the bear market dead on arrival and recommended buying stocks on any tip, which is what you had to do. that seasonal pattern is basically historical and at any given point in the year, he predicted a monster run through november. can you imagine? check out this next chart which shows the action into last week along with larry's long-term cycle con contest in red. the red line shows you what he considers the dominant long-term cycle in the
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dow. nice. for williams, this confirms the powerful rally from mid-november with another link higher toward the end of the year. how reliable is the forecast? okay, going back to 1900, williams finds the dow has rallied 62% of the time when we are in the wave of the cycle, the one that gave us this october advance. about 5050 but not exactly what we want. if you look at the third wave of this long-term cycle that is kicking in december 9th and that rallies in astonishing 82% of the time. if you find a vet that wins 82% of the time in this business, grab it and never let it go
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because those are tremendously bullish odds. even if there is speculation that may ease up a bit with a hike, what if the economy is in better shape? williams has a theory of the u.s. gross to medic domestic product. larry wants to use it for forecasting purposes. for those of you who have never taken in economics class and don't remember the velocity of money, it is going to tell you how fast dollars are circulating and it is a great indicator. williams of found that if you use the velocity of money to forecast gdp growth, it is accurate. what does this mean for us right now? it is correlated and now look at
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this from 2011 to the present moment. with larry's velocity of money forecast extending from 2025, this tells us that next year should have solid economic growth. next year and it sounds crazy but it is possible, why not? and my wilson who everybody worships just put out a bullish call last night. as it falls faster than people expect, that gives the fed the reason to ease up. here is the bottom line, they were able to call this incredible october rally, the only person to call it and i shared it from day one. now he says it's more upside until the end of the year. i know it is tough to be optimistic after the horrific bear market but i would not bet
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against this man. i would not bet against larry williams. even if you are only as good as your last call, as cynics would say, i want to take a call starting with john in florida. >> i am a cnbc member since back in 2005 that i've been watching your show . >> thank you so much for being a member of the club. what's up? >> excellent. how about shopify? >> shopify had a good third quarter and i love them so muc . some parts of internet commerce are being consolidated and they are a winner. if stocks come down too much, it's a buy for me and i've been negative for some time. >> hey jim, i appreciate your
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work and it is informative. >> paolo alto near berks, panw, is the winter . very williams called this incredible october rally and no one else did. get this, now, now he is ready to say the market will be more upside through the end of the year. it is tough to be optimistic right now and you've heard all day the move we just had is over and i'm going with larry. and a very hot stock over public services and the third quarter earnings with the ceo. we just close down the best third quarter since 19/76. why is her talk of how dangerous it is to be in this market. i give you my take and it's the honest
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environmental services business. last thursday republic reported a strong quarter. they didn't race the four year forecast and delayed the release of next year's outlook. at this point it is down but not all that bad. the stock could set a new record high and that's impressive. let's go to the president and ceo of republic services. welcome to mad money. >> thank you for having me and it's great to be with you. >> it has been 14 years since republic has been on mad money, a long time and perhaps the company is very different now. can you explain the environmental services foot print that you have now and the things you have been doing since you were here last? >> we have assets in 47 states
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and we worked throughout the u.s. and canada. we serve customers 5 million times every day with recite lien and solid waste and a broad set of environmental services that we handle off the ground and in and environmentally sound way. >> i invested with my hedge fund a long time ago because i always hope that nuclear energy would come back. tell us about this u.s. ecology acquisition. it used be something everybody likes, but hazardous. >> people think about hazard as being challenging and complex and it is. we don't produce that but we handle it in and environmentally responsible way. they take about 30% of the hazardous waste across north america to one of their five hazardous ways landfills. it allows us to serve in a bigger and broader way. they
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asked us to handle their needs from stem to stern and this allows us to serve those customers more completely. >> let's talk about recycling and there was a report recently that said you need to be careful because the price of recycling is coming down. i look at this differently and i think recycling is a great long- term business about environmental services. and what you are doing with not just paper and not just plasti , but how about glass which, to me, seems that easiest to recycle. >> we are bullish on recycling in a world of scarcity. customers want to do the right thing to recycle and are willing to pay for it. there is volatility in the commodities we know but we see
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that as a short-term pullback. in the long-term, we think that cardboard, paper, plastic, aluminum, and even glass have a future because society needs the resources. >> do we do what they do in germany and fine people if they do it wrong? like the old amazon boxes that you throw out or people toss because it says renewable. people are tossing the wrong thing, do we have to make a system and so that americans recycle correctly? >> we think carrots and sticks are both important in that. we have new ai technology that scans the load when we tippet into the hopper and we can tell customers how much their stream is clean versus contaminated. yes, we will charge them, over time, if they continue to put
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the wrong thing in the wrong been. however, people want to know and will change if incentive to do the right thing. >> many people feel that businesses run too hot and others feel they are cool. we are at a decent place that is a less inflationary was still some growth? >> we still see a strong outlook. not only is the fourth quarter strong, but we haven't outside year from a growth standpoint. the economically sensitive portions of our business our special waste which is remediation type jobs and temp rolloff which is construction related. we see a strong pop pipeline not only to the fourth quarter but into next year. over time, with housing, i expect pullback with modulation
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of growth but we are still high single digit growth for the next year and for businesses with low growth overall, it's in exciting time for us. >> i'm so glad you came back which is in industry i've always liked. next week we will talk about renewable castes. thank you so much john for your company returning to mad money. it's good to see you. >> thank you for having me, take care. coming up, cramer takes your calls and the sky is the limit. it is the best buyer lightning round, next.
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>> and then the lightning round is over. are you ready? the lightning round is coming up with chris in arizona. chris. >> i am chris from arizona, how are you doing? >> happy halloween, what's going on? >> no matter what those bozos on twitter say about you, you have got it from me. >> my friends and family will no longer be in my life and so they are done and i'm done with them. thank you very much. >> if they are hating on you, it's only because they are watching you. and i want to talk about a
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company am a little upside down in. should i keep or get rid of it? it is plcr . >> when they appear on tv, makes me feel like a big joke and i'm not in on it. let's go to the gym. >> it is halloween, what's going on. >> it's a beautiful thing and my question is about southwestern energy after a big blowout in earnings. >> i will tell you right now, we will take a hard look at it. let's go to greg in new jersey. >> a big halloween boo ya to
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your show. >> join the club, we do well together, what's happening. i was wondering if you could please tell me your thoughts on match group. >> it is too cheap and i don't get it, honestly. i know it has missed a couple of quarters, but 33, really? let's go to eddie in georgia, what's up. >> by the way, it is dead when. >> i'm sorry, edwin. >> a long time listener and first-time caller , i just want your opinion. how do you feel about that? >> i'm not recommending any
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>> why are some of the world pope's most wealthy people so week 22 grade the stock market? i didn't hear a single rich person come on cnbc and say to just go buy stocks . instead i heard how dangerous it is and you got to sell everything until the money is taken away by the fed, which is now. now that we are nearly a year into the war on inflation, let me give you a couple of insights a bar why so few money managers want to stick their necks out to help you. other than the bush warren buffett, i can't think of a single superrich that will encourage
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you to buy stocks. they are money managers and tasked with finding stocks on the s&p 500. or one who trades his own family living for money. i can't wait to hear from him on squawk box tomorrow morning. and these billionaires who come on and actively discourage you from exposure to the stock market and warn you that picking stocks is a full's darren. even as they have made their careers buying stocks at her redness times for stocks that turned out to be great. there is zero accountability for these guys. the anchors criticize them on air and they will never show their faces again. what billionaire needs to be held responsible for their public statements? they have double immunity and
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because they don't have anything to promote, there's no incentive to come back on the air if they don't want to and so the industry has to be gentle with them and boy is it ever. i'm not declaring and investor class were on the richest of the rich, not by any means and i think they should make as much money as they want, as long as they pay taxes. they are not deliberately trying to mislead you either. they have different priorities and they've already made their money. they don't want to keep you in their chains. if i had $1 billion, i would never own the stock again either and not mutual funds either. people tend to make the most money when they go against the grain after a long move. i would've killed for one billionaire to come on the air at the beginning of the year that said eli lilly has a new drug that could be just
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fantastic. or just because we go into recession, caterpillar is a changed company and you have all the that federal of the structure money. the only question is, how can caterpillar hand the demand? it reminds me of my own trajector . i didn't have any money i was living in my car and doing everything wrong. i started out learning and discovering and being diligent about this stuf . it's not like betting a bunch of horses which is i what i used to do. there was big pharma in the 80s and i would like to see who had the best drug pipeline. sometimes it was obvious and then i will hold them until the stories came to fruition. i made a lot of money off of a little money. a lot off a little an eye learned. investor funds are great but they will
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not let you rack up gains. the reason i do my job now is to teach you to become a better investor. it's just about teaching, darn it. maybe you don't know how to be disciplined or do the homework or maybe the whole thing is bewildering and that's when the investing comes about. the one thing i will never do is tell you there is no opportunity. those who are worried deserve to be chastised for lazy thinking. a lot of the guys are so wealthy that they don't want to or need to take the time to look it up and they should say that rather than warning you away from the whole asset class and missing this move. even if they want to be negative, they should pick out areas that they hate the most. hey, i hate big debt and that would've helped us too rather than market wide act to vitti.
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