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>> >> i have a fun time hosting the show. i'm a fan. >> fishing for that complement? >> i'm not fishing. >> i enjoy my time. i do. >> aem. >> gold, i love it. thanks for watching "fast money," it's been a pleasure to be with you guys. right now "mad money." my mission is simple, to make you money. i am here to level the playing field for all investors. there is always a bull market somewhere. i promise to help you find it. mad money starts now. hey, i'm jim cramer, welcome to mad money. my job is to teach you. we were due for today's modest pull back. the s&p have been up 8 straight
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days, 9 straight would of put us in rare territory. we have not had that since 2004. of course dow up 60 points but we got to wonder if the market still has the horses to go higher. today we got bad news and stocks went down during the bad news. you see, we had very odd pattern going on. it was a bit of gloss. when they report a good quarter, it is zoom! >> buy, buy, buy! >> the stock floored. >> we decided that was the last bad quarty because feds are about to cut rates. >> buy, buy, buy! no big deal. companies can do no wrong. not today. today we had a bit of a reckoning, a dose of reality thrown in our faces.
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let's start with lowes, the home improvement, quarterly perspective did not go up that much. they did not make their numbers, the ceoed people are not moving nearly as often as they typically do because current mortgage rates are higher than the existing rates. going on to say as a consequence hovering near the lowest level since the middle 1990s and a fluent customer persisted longer than expected. lowes talked about weakness in big ticket items, homeowners deferring their projects. they mentioned a great deal of uncertainty around interest rates and inflation. they locked in the rates before feds started tightening and don't want to take out a mortgage to say nothing of home equity loans which is is how you pay for the big ticket items, lows cut the forecast, almost as much as home depot
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did. mirror image of home depot, maybe better, the stock dropped 15 points. i took to x or twitter or whatever, you just had to buy it. rallying 40 straight points from there. only a week. but, lowes, lowes had a better quarter. the stock went down $3 and then, look, it roared higher. then it came right back. look, it was kind of, it took me a minute for home depot to go down, and bad news was bad news and took a lot of people by surprise. if we step back we have two companies, one business, one goes up huge and one got hit on a similar set of numbers. what does that tell us? home depot did well higher, feds, they will be there to save you. seven-days later, seven positive days we believe the stocks will get better. we are too high, back to
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business as usual where the good go up and the bad go down. the mark set not rich enough. we can not say to the bears head's win, tails, you lose. at these elevated levels there is rationality and everything can rally. does not expect them to go on friday where they venture west. that is a lot of potential sellers in things do not go their way. i got to tell you they will be friday, end of summer. lowes got hit where they need multiple rate cuts and there is no sign of that. and, they, they may not get enough to make it so the please be seated turns around. suddenly the market says forgive me. suddenly the market asks questions, boeing, bows discovered a structural problem in the x involving the engines connection to the plane.
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not optimal but they have been having problems but have not hit the stocks at all. boeing stocks are immune. airbus they make planes, not today, though, satan the news stuck and the stock dropped 4%. leaving us to wonder if aerospace left camelot. i think there is amazing they have been able to stay up so long. hey, if you are looking for aerospace go to rtx. let me give you another one. estee lauder, a horrendous forecast and their ceo is retiring, going to stick around for 10 months and whatever happens, stocks spent most of the day in positive most yesterday. we were going higher, we could not leave anyone's pay up for
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the stock. down 2%, the wave reaction just a different mind set. the market is only giving the companies the benefit of the doubt. especially estee lauder. let's go health care. one of the declines came, favorite but making blood sugar monitors for people with diabetes. the stock fell in one of the most brutally missed quarters. coming from it, going all of the way, step by step, $77 last night and then bam, releasing a 3-year study on the drug and we learn today can prevent 94% of at risk patients from developing type 2 diabetes. i don't want to take anything away from their achievement but the results were in line with every other window that the drugs have been measured against. there time, though, bexcom they
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went down 6%. today we cared about it. finally, one other thing, we had the wrong stocks go higher. a brood market, today, narrow. the stapes, proctor and gamble, they were on fire. now, some of it is because the dollar is weaker and these sell a great deal overseas, that is not the case for clorox. not good news for the fed and meant for a slow down, a bad slow down. the good news is, they are all subtle. no head bashing here, we are not having one of those roaring openings and it takes your breath away and causes people to run for the hills, get out now! i do not see it. but the bottom line, we are getting back to reality. where good is good, bad is bad and never do they meat. maybe that is the point. the eight days up they were the
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outliers. and macrodata and that are forgiveness, well, maybe they have to be tempered like today. before we can mount another rally. let's go to trey in texas. trey? >> jim i was halfway through a mexican pizza last night when i failed my diet plan but you taught me to look for opportunity in everything. so i developed an algorithm from which i seek to identify earnings beats for restaurants by tracking my weight daily throughout each quarter. needless to say q3 looks like a huge beef would you agree? >> well, i think you need to test your luck with pasta bowl that just came back. i think dart is better than yum. no mexico pizza at pizza hut, it has pizza that reminds me the pizza when pat doyle started at domino's, shirt cardboard.
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what can you do. eric in florida, eric? >> first time caller. thank you for having me on. >> we need new blood. a lot of the same people from illinois, you know, a lot of people, can you give me new blood like this fella, thank you? >> thank you, jim. i just spent so much money. so much money at disney over the past weekend. the stock is sat a 10 year low, is it a buy, what do you think? >> disney? yeah. i think it is. i wanted to buy some today, i wanted to buy some yesterday. jeff marks and i have been going hammer and tongs about it. he does not want to pull the trigger. reminds we are overbought. disney is not. it is horrendous. today's market did not fit. good news is good news and bad nows like we have been getting from disney is bad news. in short, maybe the market is getting rational again. you need to sustain a higher
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advance. then tonight,ip vestments help your portfolio? i am slicing and dicing in the company and i have mexican pizza. taking technicals this spring. no, you don't want to see it. it has to do also with the stock that is going to report income week that you may of heard of. but, that is some confusion. after putting a month ago the stock dropped 17% in a single day. getting potential turnaround. potential for the company's ceo. i want you to say with cramer
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. quick, what is the best restaurant stock? it is not brick international. it is not even cramer fav cava up 129% year to date. no. the best performing restaurant stock is sweetgreen. the salad chain. it nearly tripled. >> buy, buy, buy. >> that was easy! >> that is a shocking number. not just because it is tough for restaurants but not that longer they look like a total dud. right near the peak of that highest stocks, remember?
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at $28 a share, the stock doubled in first two days of trading. like so many ipos. the darn thing just collapsed. it is $6 and change last year. down 90% from the eyes. this is one of the goats of the game. >> i like sweetgreen the restaurant and a lot of people that go love it. i have been a hater of sweetgreen the stock. reminding you not to stick your neck out. trading in the single digits. never really circled back to the story. they found the bottom. that is why the rally this year, catching me by surprise. what did it change to make the stock a winner? it is generating earnings towards interest.
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they had positive important for the past few quarters, that is more forgiving network. company is moving in the right direction. second and more important. sales growth how we measure things around here is coming roaring back. putting up 25% on the sales growth in public 2021. not sustainable. slowed to 13% and then 4% last year. in the last four quarters, though r they reaccelerated. the company reported they were up 9% and that is projecting 5- 7% for the full year. that is fantastic. how does sweetgreen generate it? >> focus on healthier meals gave them a structural damage at the time the serve industry struggling with push back from pricing from lower income consumers and they made big improvements to their program and they had a strong digital ordering system. a lot of companies don't have that. mainly, sweetgreen stopped being hung up on the idea of
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being a salad place. and in the past they introduced different seasonal salads that drove in the traffic. last year this salad chain started selling other than salad. made big bets on protein in 2023 when they rolled out a chicken burrito bowl with 0 leafy greens. the change is last fall when they decided to tackle dinner with new protein dishes including a good glaze salmon plate. and garlic steak and cut bowl if you are a vegan and they recited it, it is these new nonsalad options brought in new customers, improving traffic during dinner hours and on weekends. makes sense. they sell meals now.
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people are happy to eat salad right now. they crushed it. it sounds less enticing, at the same time they embraced efficienty to bolster it. they made investment this ordering it allows them to prepare food with fewer people. you can watch them at work. this technology has been rolled out on a couple occasions. the restaurant margin is 10% points higher than average. that is gigantic. this year, it is open 24-26 locations, 7 of which the kitchen technology and the other two or three locations will get retrofitted. during the dark days when the stock was getting killed, imagine they dialed back their store growth ambitions and focuses on proper. i say here is your half.
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what is your worry. don't let the door hit you on the way out if you are putting up stores for empty calories, they are ready to expand again. when the company reported two weeks ago. jonathan neman said it is to go back. 234 locations they will have 35 new ones it is a manageable pace, people. since they figured out how to generate more traffic adding more stores is a better business proposition, now the million dollar question, is sweetgreen, the stock, worth buying even though it is triple year to date. some say no. stock 37-33 and change over the past few days, that happens to be the reason i am willing to endorse it. when i am looking at piper sandler downgrade i did not see much to worry about.
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this is part of a fast casual dining space. in fact, if you look at the report it reads more positive than negative before the analysts concludes with quote we think the risk/reward is more balanced end quote, and quote we would not be surprised if share price upside was a bit hardtory come by over the balance of this year, end quote. hardly a vicious take down, right? given the stocks pull back from last week's highs. i would be tempted to build it. however, considering that we are headed in a seasonal chopper period for stocks i would not be surprise if it gets knocked around a bit. maybe you get a little bit in now. i think you should pounce. this is no longer the salad chain of three years ago t. slaughtered the cow of being a pure salad chain and now it is serving that cow for dinner.
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>> house of pleasure. >> you have my blessing of pick of the stock. as it is something that the rotationed in of the restaurant group is as vicious as they come. mad money is back after the break . coming up, arthe charts of a cramer favorite getting softness. he chews on the dog days of summer, next
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♪ as i said at the top of the show, this could be a truly confusing moment for the market. not one but two cross currents. one hand, business cycle. we know the economy is slowing, not surprising while inflation is cooling down. that is why wall street is expecting the federal reserve to cut rates at the next meeting. that is in september. it should be fantastic for the economy and the stock market. we will hear more from fed chief powell later this week. but for now, we don't have a lot of clarity about how aggressively they will cut. the economy is proving to be resilient. on the other hand 2-1/2 months away from the extremely polarizing presidential election it makes it harder to vote on trump stocks or harris stocks, the odds are not that good and wall street loves to focus on the negatives leading up to the election. the focus on what harris mean
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when she talks about gouging and going after the gougers or former president trump will be able to have 10% tariff. you can argue about the policies but from wall street's perspective they are not helping the stock market. in short things are looking up, it is a tricky moment, full of uncertainty. you know what i like to do. i like to consult the charts and history to remove our judgment on the equation and focus on something other impericle. for now, we will talk to larry williams. we use a lot of his opinions on the show. he called the covid bottom when everyone else thought the sky was falling, predicted the pull back if tech stocks in spring when it began and ended. how does larry do it? he analyzes cycles. he looks over history, spots
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patterns that seem to repeat themselves and projects them forward into the future that is why i like his approach. we find it. and often the patterns repeat themselves for no reason. the market is full of tricky changes. it does not depend on what you think about the feds next move or who wins the election those are irrelevant. some say reading the charts is like astrology. if you find one that is as good as larry i will put him on air. now, with that in mind take a look at this daily chart of the s&p500 with his forecast in red and longer in blue. these are based on analyzing data from different periods of time. when you look at his long-term cycle for the s&p, expect real sale pressuring until the cycle turns positive again in mid-
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october. as for the short term cycle, it is saying something similar. weakness from the beginning of september, okay. we are coming into that. okay. you can see short term is red. and into mid-october. the cycle forecast is how he tries to predict the future without knowing what is coming. in his view if you want to know why a turn happens you have to wait until after the turn plays out that is not useful, is it? shorter tomorrow forecast says the ral sepretty much, and he used this word to me, kaput. that jives with the short term. now, like i told you last night, we are overbought and when you are overbought you need cash. it will run out of steam at the end of the month before giving us a brief bounce in september and hitting us with a nancy leg lower in the middle of october. you see both cycles indicate that. he would not suspect a sustainable rally for two months from now.
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focus on long-term and short term cycle projects. having a nice run. you will take this, won't you? i will. keep in mind that his forecasts are more likely when they will change course than the scale. it is the dance on the floor. according to this chart. as much as we care about the averages, lair seadamant that this market it is, i feel like you can guess it, right? it is nvidia. it is the king and the rest f the market is its pawns, marched to the beat of their drum. this morning, i said look, it is too important, too much pressure. can it sustain it? i don't want it to be sampleson. look at this chart going back to february. he is the one, larry told you to sell nvidia before the peak. and predicted stock will take off in late may. larry's calls guided by the
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short term cycle in red that you see has followed the price closely. really good. that is unfortunate. look at what the short term cycle says, projects it will lead to a drop next month. remember, they report next week. long-term cycle calls for the bottom at the same time. given that larry sees it, makes sense the cycle forecast that the stocks will take a turn for the worst and then bottom along the same trajectory that you expect from s&p500t. is that powerful. i keep telling you that. next week, the charts are saying we are likely set for pain. it will continue from middle to late october. it pays to take it seriously. my money there is a good chance he could be right particularly if they give you an outlook
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that is not that strong. let's go to henry in north carolina. henry? >> its henry. tell me what is happening. >> jim, how is your day? >> my day is awesome, how about you young lad. i am great. >> fantastic t. is still hot out here i am about to start my hockey season. >> oh, good for you. we are starting the football season. reminds me of that. let's make money together, what do you have in mind? >> i was wondering about. >> are you old enough to drive? rivian long-term? >> that is neither here or there. i think it is good. they actually have what i would describe as being a big backer. so, therefore they are not going to run out of money. short term, rocky. they have a lot of things they need to do to ramp up. so, i am not going to go jump on the short term, i will do, because, henry you got your whole life ahead of you.
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it might be a good one for you. joe? >> hello mr. cramer thank you for having me on the slow and all of your great advice. >> thank you, you are very, very kind, thank you. how can i help you? >> okay. with company layoffs and a recent earnings beat should i still hold on to ciscoe? >> okay. go ahead. all right, let me tell you how i feel about the system. i thought it was a very, very good quarter. but, then, they did not give you a lot of follow-through to the quarter. so, it felt like to me that you should not chase it here over 50. but, i do like what they are doing. i like it, and chuck, chuck robbins, looks like a good price. things are better, inventory is clean. i will not tell you that you should buy all you can, that will not work for me. let's go to mike in illinois.
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we have good callers in illinois. mike? >> how are you? >> i am good. how are you? >> doing just fine. i am down 15%, it is vistra. should i buy, sell or hold? >> it is just, you know, to me it is too much of a dice roll. too much of, i wish i had a chart i would show you that this one has been straight up and then down. i don't want to touch it. it is too crazy for me. it is two that i find. "unfigure outable"? not a good term. i hope he is wrong. he has been right so often. much more mad money ahead. including a confluent conflict. getting a read on what is next
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and lilly hit a high. what could it mean for the future of the stock? the new high is important. i am dpigging deeper. all of your calls tonight. lightning round, stay with cramer
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♪ you know i am worried about the enterprise category. a tough year for them. take confluent. when i reported it at the end of july. 17% of the value in a single
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day. why? the results were better than expected. back in march they were up 50% year to date. now it is in the red. the stock seems tempting but we need more clarity. let's go to the ceo of confluent to see where he thinks hads company is going. >> jim, thank you for having me. >> i have to tell you, in a vacuum i went over the conference call, i went over what you have accomplished and i came back and i said you know what, it was a good quarter. and the people who did not like the quarter did not understand you are building long-term value here. they are jumping from one contract to another even though you had a tremendous number of contracts that came on. why are people missing about your story that -- i think it is better than what the stock indicates. >> it was, it was a solid quarter. grew 27%. we had, really, a record number
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of new logo ads. you know, as you said earlier, i think people would have liked to see raising guidance. we did see a little bit of pressure in the digital native segment, the tech companies. when you zoom out a little bit and look at what the trend is in the space. what is happening with data and infrastructure and streaming, i think it is a very positive picture that you would hear directly from customers and see in long-term trends are around ai and the use of data. and tell people how they would need them to do what they need to do if you were not there.
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>> it is incredible. walmart is a great idea. products that they have and inventory and stock and driving it in the business realtime. having a much more dynamic view and looking at it quickly. they are exciting and just coming out and it will be a great tail wind for them. my feeling about it with walmart. they would not be doing as well against amazon. and up-to-the-minute inventory that amazon has that i don't know about walmart, they are great, i don't know if they would be able to do it without you. >> i think that is common in our space. when you look at our customer
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base. and then, traditional enterprises towards it. you don't want to there. and it drives both parts of the business for us. >> they talk about the german company and $18 billion and they are doing something. they may offer a deal and gets people going and they talk on the call center. everybody gets angry. we all had to deal with this. every one of them. deciding what to do. going back, never calling them again. you have been able to find a way to make it where the companies are not overwhelmed. even though they would not be able to do it without you. a great set of cases, particularly around the use of ai and not that customer and that business and what they have done and bought and what the intersections have been. and the realtime, and bringing it to bear in the moment to be
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able to answer questions and serve them better. are a bunch of variations on that. a common pattern for it. right now, i want to understand that you said they, they gave it, yes, it is true the forecast is temped. 320 counts that is double the previous quarter. why would you not raise the forecast. it is incredible statistics. obviously the current year in our space there has been cross currents. one hand, really exciting growth and projects happening. on the other hand there is a lot more growth that customers have. and, so you, you have on one hand things set and growth and another set, cannibalizing some of the growth. each quarter we are posting results that are a combination of the few factors and it makes it choppier than it would otherwise publish.
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we want to be cautious when we are. >> people need help, i know by the way, you have big, what i regard as being the great consultants that you turn to. when you don't know how to do it. they are turning to you. this is something that will be with us a long time. >> i think that is exactly right. when you think about the balance of forces here. this kind of optimization is short term force. you are going to try to save 10% by optimizing this pattern or that. when you zoom out and look at the longer trajectory i think the enthusiasm of the space and streaming in realtime data, what is happening, what is happening with ai. it is a powerful tail wind for us and other companies. >> i agree with you. it would be a tougher call, down here i don't think it is. i want to thank the ceo thank
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you for explaining things. >> thanks for the time, jim. >> absolutely. back after the break . coming up, hit us with your best shot. electrified fast firelightning round is next tony, its gone. no. how am i going to do this? welcome to the mdy mid-cap cup, presented by state street global advisors. today's challenge is to play 9 holes without the middle of your bag. how does that sound? that sounds terrible. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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share onin minnesota. share on? >> jim, it is share on. i am a member of your club and i really appreciate it. >> thank you very much, i wanted to ask about what is between flutter. >> we are seeing a lot of fantasy betting and betting on every quarter it could be a good for the quarter. i would buy the stock. >> let's go to mario in virginia. mario? >> i would like to talk on t- mobile. the stock is going up and up and up and . >> what, what, let's ring the register on that one. honestly, that is the kind of thing that i do not like. that worries me. ast. that does not continue, let's go to howell in wyoming.
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hi, jim. i am howell from wyoming. the stock price has improved greatly can you tell me what or why the price i tell you why, the techs are back in style and they are a very good manager and that is what is driving us. its let's go to lou nice new york. lewis? >> yes -- lewis in new york. lewis? >> yes. this is cramer. okay, first of all, let me give you a little tip. you left some money out by the state controller t. is under cramer company from 2002. >> really? >> yes. how much? is it a lot? >> it t does not tell you have to look it up. i will go and look it up. let's check on that. yes. thank you, make some calls. all right, good, good. >> okay.
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>> okay. my question is, is lqda with united therapeutic filing a lawsuit against the fda and the fda ruling in united's favor against their own rules. >> man, i tell you, that is a dice roll. going down, down, down. the only one that covers it, a lot of, this one it is too much of what i would say a black box. i would check into my returns maybe that is the kind of thing that can make it so i can retire. highly unlikely. let's go to aj in colorado. aj? >> i love it out there in colorado. >> i want to thank you for giving me the education and most of the all the confidence to make my own stock decisions. >> it is about confidence.
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>> yes. you and nvidia has done it. now, i can not promise you anything. more on that. i will tell you this, we can keep working together because of the comments you just gave me, i want to inspire confidence when it is based on homework. based on homework that is where the trade comes, how can i help? >> okay. small portion of the stock a few years back. i thought it would be a great play it is bouncing all over the place. should i buy more, hold or sell? >> i am not a fan. we made it. i am glad we sold it and never looked back it is just not enough, not enough well-run management there. good yield, we need more than that >> let's go to virginia. >> hi, there is jim. how are you? >> i am good. how about you? great. harish. i am watching your show a long
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time. my question is tesla. >> i have been saying it is an up stock. what happens this man is now the master. he is going to tell us how it is a technology company, it is no longer a car company, people will laugh it up, that is what they do. lap up every word he says, can not show rationality. not thinking about maybe it can not happen with the self- driving cars if he said it, it must be right. we all wish we had that. let's go to karen in ohio. care snen. >> mr. cramer. >> hi snoorks thank you. first let me thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience and making me happy. >> thank you. i had an advisor that put me in a sizeable pow snigs fasit.
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. the most successful people have the strongest principals and clearly you have that. there is the best solution i have ever seen. >> i am going to make you an offer. you have a deal. it is the end of the age of diet and exercise. nelson and novel weight loss and diabetes drug can reduce the risk of developing type 2 diet bees, that is not among the -- diabetes that is people who are prone to getting it. the drug's ability to lose weight people simply don't care as much or worry about diet and
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exercise. and, whatever they are doing, it is not working as well as lilly. people don't have the willpower and they can not maintain a workout. hens why americans are prone to diabetes. we have been hearing about there's drugs for some time. there was always skepticism about how well they performed long-term, long-term, today we got the results of 176 week trial on lilly. it a game changer for fighting diabetes and average% losing 23% of their body weight. the fd alikely will clear the drug. because there is no turn, i don't see how the companies can avoid paying for it on the wonder drugs, so many are worried. i feel better about this. as they told us this morning, the drug will save the system a
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lot of money. >> i think the question two years ago was, do these drugs, does the duel acting inhibitor actually not only keep you thinner but healthier? and we are beginning to learn that it keeps you healthier. the federal government does not pay for these, many employees don't, they should. there is going to save money for the country in the long- term and keep people living a healthier, longer life. >> i have been a huge supporter of lilly for ages, and major position for trust. i know this kind of news will bring in new believers so will insurance on working on every formulation, you are hearing the competitors, oh, pill form, once a month shot, they are working all of these. lilly spending millions, competitors might have something up their sleeve but the winner right now is lilly.
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the rest, well, let's say they are stuck in the fda approval process that will take years for it to play out. lilly start today in 2016. the others are not close. there say gross misunderstanding what will happen for this drug. not just for weight loss and diabetes, heart failure, hypertension, killers, it will be the biggest drug of all- time. i am not just talking about the life-saving uses it cuts back on your craver for liquor, it is so bad for you. it can be a legitimate treatment for alcoholism, works for sleep apnea, other illnesses that it will likely solve that is why it would not shock me if they are currently worth $902 billion is the first nontech company to join the trillion dollar club. everybody is always searching for the company that can knock lilly off. people should be aware that lilly will protect it. i knew the stock was not able
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to close above the highs today, a double pop and a failure. i urge you to think bigger. we will look at the people freed from the tyranny of a diet and exercise regiment. it is all thanks to eli lilly: i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow with the cost of living. i'm not an engineer, but i am a creative technologist. [ laughing ] what? what would that do? you shouldn't be overly concerned with debt. you're a profitable company. the way i look at it -- i haven't finished, kevin. he's trying to gouge you. can you come back to me? no gouging. it's a reasonable offer. there's nobody here that can market better than me. oh, that's -- [ laughs ] you can laugh all you want. i'm laughing. you should have been much nicer to me. you wouldn't have this dilemma. he hates that. i don't even like kevin. oh, wow! ♪♪ narrator: first into the tank is a stylish trend in accommodation. ♪♪

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