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fascination with the case. joining us will be a prosecutor, psychologist and a former fbi criminal profiler who worked on the case. it's a cnn newsroom special report, the casey anthony trial, tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. make sure you join us. i'm don lemon at cnn headquarters in atlanta. "murder abroad: the amanda knox story" will begin in a few minutes. we leave you with the aids memorial quilt. thanks for joining us. in italy a british exchange student raped and murdered in her room. >> it was horrible. the young lady bled to death. >> amanda knox, her american roommate is charged with the crime. >> my husband called me and said they have arrested amanda.
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>> a media frenzy with tales of cover-up and sex games turned deadly all centered around the beautiful young student dubbed foxy knoxy by the tabloids. now amanda knox sits in this italian prison convicted of murder abroad. amanda knox was going into her junior year of college. her mother eda calls amanda the fresh-faced 20-year-old intent on adventure. >> she was going to study abroad going into college somewhere. she didn't know where yet. >> amanda would decide on perusia, italy. her sister remembers when she moved into this house which she shared with three other girls, two italians and one british student named meredith kircher.
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>> why was she so set on that apartment? >> i think it's because of the people really. it was close to the college and her roommates are the sweetest people in the world. >> but after only six weeks in italy on the night of november 1st, 2007, amanda's overseas adventure would take a bizarre turn. amanda claims she slept over with her boyfriend rafael that night. according to her, they cooked dinner at his house, smoked hashish and made love. on that same night, meredith kircher returned home after watching a movie with friends. sometime between 11:00 p.m. and midnight a witness living in these apartments across the street claimed to hear a scream and multiple foot steps running away from the house in opposite directions. the next day knox says she returned home to shower and
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change clothes. then she noticed something was wrong. one roommate's room was turned upside down. a rock on the floor and a broken window. meredith kircher's door was locked, and she wasn't answering her cell phone. >> i got the phone calls about when she came to her house and amanda kept saying, i have gotten ahold of everything. i can't get ahold of moit. -- meredith. she's not answering her phone. her door is locked. there was lots of concern. i said, okay. you know, call the police, and she did, and, you know, the police came, and then they had actually one of the other roommates' boyfriends that broke down the door because the police wouldn't do it. >> behind meredith's bedroom door was her body covered by a blanket, blood everywhere. meredith had been sexually assaulted, stabbed, and slashed in the neck. a bloody handprint left on the wall. bloody footprints on the floor.
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as police began to process the crime scene, suspicion soon began to fall upon amanda. partly due to what police believed was a faked forced entry through the window. observers also thought amanda's behavior was odd. she and rafael stayed in the living room while the others broke into meredith's room. francesco mareska is an attorney hired by the victim's family. he says amanda's behavior was enough to make her a suspect. >> translator: the famous behavior of amanda knox cannot be justifiable if we compare it to the way normal people behave. >> reporter: in this video amanda and her boyfriend comfort each other outside the house. but at the police station witnesses say they laughed and made faces, heightening suspicions about them. for them, the police station
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would become all too familiar over the coming days. her father, curt, recalls the week after the grisly discovery. >> between the time that they actually found meredith and when amanda was arrested, there was roughly a 90 hour time frame. i'm ballparking the numbers there. during that time, amanda was in the police station for questioning for, i believe it was, 52 hours. >> as the days passed, the interrogations became longer and more intense. without a lawyer, amanda continued to talk to the police. a decision her mother regrets to this day. >> you know, would have, could have, should have. i should have insisted that she leave the country. i should have insisted that she not talk to anybody. i should have gotten her a lawyer immediately. >> meanwhile, media interests surrounding the crime began to surge. information was leaked to the press almost daily.
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reports stating the victim knew her killer, or even a woman committed the crime went viral. soon articles were reporting that meredith kercher was the victim of a sex game gone wrong. >> in italy you could make up a story or you could say you heard it from some guy that was laying in a ditch. you can write the story and then all of the sudden it goes viral. >> as the media circus grew, so did the pressure on police to solve the case. on the night of november 5th, the police interrogated amanda all night and into the next morning. it was during this session amanda confessed she was at the house that night. her boss patrick was there as well. at that point amanda knox officially ceased to be a witness. she became the suspect. the police held a press conference later that day
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announcing to the world they had solved the crime, case closed. according to police, meredith kercher had been killed because she would not take part in a sex game, a sex game orchestrated by amanda knox, her boyfriend, raffaele, and patrick lamumba. >> translator: i've always said that this is a crime that was born of succession. it was step by step. there was no planning. >> reporter: all three were arrested and charged with murder, but the tabloid press turned their attention to one of the accused in particular. amanda. when the papers hit newsstands the next day, foxy knoxy would be all over the front page. in the weeks and months that followed their arrests, new evidence would emerge. a knife found in raffaele's apartment. both amanda and meredith's dna on it. meredith's bra clasp tested positive for raffaele's dna.
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a homeless man claims to have seen the couple near the house on the night of the murder. >> we kept thinking, oh, this is a big mistake. it will get cleared up, and then it just got really weird with the trial and it just kept going and going and going. >> the world was captivated. two attractive young women. one accused of killing the other. so what really did happen to meredith kercher? and is amanda knox guilty of murder? for the next hour forget everything you know. where do you go to find a super business?
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problems that have happened with my sister have come from the media. the whole angel face with cold eyes. the whole foxy knoxy thing. >> reporter: to know the real foxy knoxy, you have to go back to amanda's hometown. seattle, washington. >> amanda was born here in seattle in the summer of 1986 the day before i turned 25. our birthdays are one day apart. >> reporter: born into a middle class family, her mother a schoolteacher, her father an accountant, divorced when amanda and her sister were still very young. >> so growing up it was i spent the majority of my time with my mom. it was every other weekend that me and amanda went to our dad's. >> reporter: always active, amanda earned her nickname foxy knoxy at a young age and not from where you might have thought. >> and soccer is where she earned that nickname that --
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>> oh, yeah. >> that's come back to haunt her. >> at the age of 8. you know, the 8-year-olds who don't know anything but call each other all kinds of funny nicknames called her foxy knoxy. >> reporter: she was not a typical teenager. amanda was driven and focused, unlike most eighth graders. she wanted an academic challenge. for high school she chose seattle prep. a prestigious private school that her parents could not afford. amanda was scholarshiped out to seattle prep, so it's not like she was given a silver spoon or anything by any means. chris johnson, an english teacher at seattle prep recalls a girl who was different from her classmates. >> she was so diligent that she signed up for an extra english class at a time when she could have had a free period. she took an extra class so she stood out. >> reporter: as for boys, did she have many serious boyfriends before? >> no. she was definitely a very late bloomer.
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i don't even remember a boyfriend until college. >> reporter: she knew very early on that she wanted to see the world. >> i think amanda started talking even in middle school about wanting to travel and to see different places. >> narrator: amanda would take her love of adventure to the university of washington where she would major in linguistics. her friend andrew describes a woman open to the world. >> i think it was her just open personality to, you know, see the good things in people and have always a positive attitude about everybody and everything in the world. ♪ >> narrator: in college, amanda knew she wanted to spend a year abroad, but to do that she would have to raise money that her parents did not have. how did she do it? >> she had to save $10,000. she lived extremely frugally and spent no money on anything, and then worked several jobs at a time. numerous jobs at a time.
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saved every penny. >> reporter: amanda chose to study in perugia, italy, a small town in the center of the country. in the late summer of 2007, amanda and her sister, deana, traveled there to get her settled. on the very first day in town, deana found amanda a place to live. >> we were walking around, and the first thing amanda did, of course, was go down to her university. we walk down there, and she went inside, and i sat outside. this girl came up and was posting something on the fence right next to where i was sitting. i looked over, and it said all i could read because i don't speak italian was apartmento. >> and that was the apartment? >> that was it. >> narrator: once settled in perugia, amanda seemed to be living her dream. >> the first set of pictures she ever sent me were of the little house that she had found, and i was kind of looking at her going you have that kind of a view out of your backyard? it was really, you know -- i was
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very happy for her. >> reporter: and just eight days before meredith's murder, amanda met a boy. an italian student named rafaelle sollecito. was she falling in love? did she sound like a girl who was in love? >> she sounded like a girl who was infatuated with this young man who was showing her around. they went over to assissi. there was definitely a big infatuation there. i don't think they had time to fall in love by the time they were arrested. >> reporter: amanda knox, devoted daughter, student, lover? according to this man, murderer. is amanda knox evil? man: be kind to your eyes with transitions lenses. transitions adapt to changing light so you see your whole day comfortably and conveniently
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almost immediately after police say she confessed to her crime, amanda knox recants. she tells her parents she broke under stress. in court she would tell jurors how a police officer struck her from behind, how she was denied water, food, a translator and how she says under pressure by
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police she was asked repeatedly to dream up, imagine scenarios for how it could have happened. in a rare interview the prosecutor of amanda knox giuliano mignini agrees to sit down for an extensive on-camera discussion of the evidence. it was an interview he later appeared to regret. >> nobody hit her? >> no one. >> translator: no, absolutely not. >> was she asked to imagine scenarios? so she's living lying? >> translator: absolutely. you either see the person or not. i can't ask a person what he or she imagines. this question would make no sense. >> narrator: that's not all that wouldn't make sense because it turns out virtually everything amanda knox told her interrogators the night of her so-called confession was a lie. amanda knox in this statement
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told police she was in the house the night of the murder and saw her boss, nightclub owner, patrick lumumba and meredith kercher go into meredith's room and she heard screams. her statement adds i am very confused, i imagine what could have happened. police apparently didn't bother to check the facts about lumumba. they immediately arrested amanda knox, rafaelle sollecito and patrick lumumba for the murder of meredith kercher. police announcing to the public, case solved. mignini admitted to us, even without any evidence, he knew almost the moment he arrived and laid eyes on amanda knox and raffaele sollecito, they were involved in the murder. >> prior to the forensic investigation, prior to everything really, your intuition or your detective knowledge led you to amanda knox and rafaelle sollecito?
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>> translator: after the first few weeks we were convinced because of the behavior of the two people and especially amanda that they were both involved in a crime. >> reporter: but almost immediately after the arrests, mignini had a problem. the third suspect patrick lumumba had an airtight alibi. he was in his crowded bar that night. he could not have been involved. then the actual forensic tests came back. >> when i looked at it, i was horrified. >> greg hampinkini is a forensic investigator and director of idaho's innocence project. he also was working with the knox defense team. he says italian investors did a good job processing the crime scene, collected excellent evidence, but clung to shakier evidence that proved their theory. a classic error.
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a prosecutor who trusted his gut feeling instead of the science that at that time was pointing to another suspect. >> they didn't like the way amanda behaved, whatever that means, and so they wanted to investigate her and rafaelle and her boss. when the dna is finally processed, it's not any of their suspects. what do you do? what would you do? you let them go. >> narrator: as patrick lumumba was being released from jail, investigators analyzing the bloody evidence left at the crime scene found an entirely new suspect. his name? rude guede, a known petty criminal from the ivory coast who fled to germany shortly after the murder. it turns out guede's handprint, made in meredith kercher's own blood was found in the victim's room.
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guede's dna found inside the victim's body in her vagina. his dna, on her clothing, on her purse, his feces even found on used toilet paper left near an unflushed toilet down the hall. and then something else. guede didn't even know raffaele and had only met amanda a few times with neighbors. >> knowing all of that and when he got extradited back to italy, we thought thank god this is over. >> narrator: it wasn't. prosecutor mignini simply swapped suspects. amanda knox, raffaele sollecito and now rude guede had come to meredith kercher hoping to include her in an orgy. when kercher refused, they pulled out knives and killed her. guilianio would stick to his
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instincts despite the forensic evidence. >> reporter: you were fixated, according to the defense, on amanda knox and rafaelle sollecito and kept imagining new century owes that made these two people guilty. >> translator: no, absolutely not. i did what i did because i was convinced given the evidence that had been gathered that they were responsible. i am absolutely convinced. >> reporter: rudy guede, the african drifter was quickly convicted and sent to prison, implicating amanda and rafaelle, after which his sentence was reduced. in 2009, mignini would bring his case against amanda knox and her boyfriend to trial. so benny, i'm proud of you. welcome to the 21st century.
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the man often described as al qaeda's military brain is dead. that's the word from a militant group inside pakistan. ilyas kashmiri was killed by a drone air strike but the u.s. and pakistani governments haven't been able to confirm the reports. he was described as one of the most dangerous men in the world. as violence and protests engulf yemen a source tells cnn the country's president is in neighboring saudi arabia.
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president saleh is being treated for injuries suffered when his palace was shelled on friday. the source says warring sides in the capitol have tentatively agreed to a cease-fire. multiple wildfires have burned more than 250,000 acres across the state of arizona. the largest is in the east central part of the state. more than 1,000 people are battling from blaze, but so far no containment. 2,500 people have been evacuated. smoke and ash are reaching albuquerque. lawrence eagleburger has died. the only career foreign service officer to rise to the post of secretary of state. he served american presidents from nixon to george h.w. bush who called eagleburger a tireless patriot. those are the headlines this hour. we return tow you're to "murder abroad: the amanda knox story" right now.
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one of italy's most notorious murder trials. the case was getting underway, basing his case mainly on circumstantial evidence. the prosecutor guilianio mignini would present witnesses, one who claims to have seen the couple near the home the night of the murder. two others would come forward, one saying they heard a scream. another one also hearing footsteps running in different directions, but magnini would also present scientific evidence, he said, that proves amanda and rafaelle's gift. rafaelle's skin cells on
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meredith's bra clasp collected 46 days after police first showed up at the murder. and what one expert called an inconclusive sample of what could have been meredith's dna found on a knife collected at rafaelle's apartment. on the handle of the knife, amanda's dna. according to prosecutor magnini, because the victim had never been to rafaelle's apartment, the knife must be the murder weapon. tests for blood on the knife turned up negative. prosecutors explained it's because the knife had been wiped clean. forensic expert greg hampikian says finding dna but no blood makes it highly unlikely the knife was used in a bloody murder. he also says it's surprising the prosecutor was even allowed to admit such a small, unexplainable sample as evidence. >> would this have made it into a u.s. court? i don't think this would have
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made it on to a u.s. lab report. >> reporter: what also made it into court was amanda's so-called confession. in a quirk of italian law the confession was thrown out of the criminal case against knox, but jurors heard it anyway as part of a civil case being tried simultaneously. in court, jurors heard mignini's evidence of guilt. then when they went home each night, they heard the news from a tabloid press gone wild. sensational headlines about the murder suspect dubbed foxy knoxy were rampant. completely fabricated stories of how amanda knox engaged in sexual orgies, satanic rituals, how she bought bleach to clean up the crime scene. all of it according to the prosecutor himself lies. with no conclusive evidence their daughter was guilty, the knox family would enter the courtroom just after midnight on saturday, december 5th, 2009 believing prosecutors had simply
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not proved their case. the jury had deliberated for 13 hours. in a moment that haunts him to this day, curt knox heard the verdict in italian. guilty. >> these two kids were innocent, and to have them say guilty, it was just devastating. it was literally devastating. you know, i mean, literally the people that were in the courtroom just kind of went -- [ gasps ] >> reporter: dust preston is a best-selling author that dreams up chilling murder plots in his writing shack on the cold coast of maine. 11 years ago he had an idea to write a chilling tale, but in a warmer location. >> i moved to italy to write a novel, and we rented a house in the tuscan hills just outside of florence. >> reporter: his research began
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with trying to learn about the italian justice system. teaming up with an old italian crime reporter named mario spezzi, he soon was intrigued about a serial killer italy had yet to catch. the monster of florence who killed eight couples from 1968 to 1985. then vanished. >> when you are a novelist, you are just making things up. this was real. >> preston would quickly abandon his work of fiction for the real thing and began to learn how the monster targeted young lovers engaging in sex, mostly in cars in the hills above florence, killing first the man and then dragging the woman out of the car, mutilating and removing her genitals. for 17 years always using the same gun, the same knife, killing again and again as police failed to solve the case. >> yes, again and again the police arrested innocent people,
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interrogated them brutally, thought that they had extracted all kinds of really important confessions from them. >> reporter: preston says with the suspects in custody, the monster would kill again. police chased wild theories of a satanic cult. preston and spezzi began to write of a lone killer and terrible police work. >> the book really criticized their investigation very thoroughly, and it wasn't just criticism. it presented irrefutable evidence that the police were on the wrong track. >> before the book could even be released, police focused their attention on the authors. mario spezi's villa was raided, his notes confiscated and the journalist placed under arrest, though later released without charges. police surmised he knew so much about the killer, he just might be the killer. then preston's phone range. >> i thought it was a joke. then they said, no, mr. preston, this is not a joke. we are coming to get you.
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this is obligatory. you tell us where you are. that will save everyone a lot of trouble. preston would find himself at the door of the prosecutor's office here in perugia where he thought he would spend a few minutes answering just a few questions. >> i had never understood how brutal -- psychologically brutal an interrogation is. you feel absolutely helpless. >> and the chief interrogator was and is? >> giuliano mignini, this prosecutor. let me tell you something, he knows exactly what he is doing. guilianio mignini was the prosecutor for both the monster and the amanda knox cases. just like amanda's interrogation, preston also says he was asked to imagine scenarios of how the crime could have occurred. >> i was terrified. i thought these people have the power to put me in jail for the
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rest of my life. >> preston says he was questioned for two hours. he left the meeting and wrote everything down, including the time he went in and the time he left. that's why guilianio mignini's recollection of that meeting with preston is so puzzling. >> translator: it lasted about 20 minutes. no more than that. it was the first time i had met preston. around 20 minutes. >> i interviewed doug preston, and that is just not true according to him. he said the interrogation lasted two hours. >> translator: i don't remember now how long he was interviewed for. i believe it was about 20 minutes. perhaps half an hour. perhaps who knows? about an hour. i would have to look at the statement. however, what is certain is that when you make a statement, that person must tell the truth, and i challenge some of the things he said. >> let me read to you what he said about it.
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i began to sweat. the public minister began repeating the same questions over and over and over again. >> so i said, wait a minute. i said, are you -- are you -- do you think i've committed a crime? that's when mignini said yes. we don't think it. we know it. we know you have committed a crime. we have the proof. you are going to confess to it. >> it sounds very similar to what amanda knox described. >> translator: it is completely different. because i interrogated preston, amanda was interrogated by the police. preston wasn't arrested. amanda was arrested. the two things are completely different. they have absolutely nothing in common apart from the fact that i was the public prosecutor in both cases. >> narrator: amanda knox describes to her lawyers the very same techniques. aggressive questioning, asking to speculate, confronted with
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>> for decades now italian prosecutors have tried and have failed to catch the monster of florence who shot and mutilated eight couples in the tuscan hills. prosecutor guilianio mignini's investigation would also end in failure. his case against journalist mario spezi was completely thrown out, and his theory of a satanic cult and massive coverup in the monster case was being ridiculed by other italian justices, and mignini's tactics, including the wiretapping of offices, became part of a new case.
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mignini himself was accused, convicted, and sentenced to a 16-month suspended sentence for abusing his office. mignini, who is appealing the conviction, explained to us it's nothing. >> translator: i have seen this many times. when they say convicted of abuse of office, it does not mean abuse of power. abuse of office is a minor crime in italy. i mean, it wasn't corruption, just to be clear. >> reporter: but for this proud judicial official of perugia, the public humiliation was humbling. it was during this very time when guilianio mignini was facing embarrassing charges of abusing his office he arrived at the crime scene of meredith kercher's murder. his investigation into her death would not wait for the forensic evidence to be processed. he already had his suspicions. within days he announced the horrific crime was solved.
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dr. mignini, is it possible that a prosecutor who was facing his own troubles perhaps rushed to judgment to solve a sensational crime? >> translator: i did not take any opportunity because that day i just happened to be on duty. a tour of duty of a week. i did not take an opportunity. >> reporter: the morning after our interview with guilianio mignini the prosecutor spots our camera, walks towards me, and off camera asks what i thought of the interview the night before, if i thought he was being truthful. clearly, mignini is now concerned. his case against amanda knox appears to be falling apart. the tabloid press still enamored with foxy knoxy is
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beginning to tell a different story. amanda and rafaelle have appealed their convictions. the appeal process is now underway, and a new judge and new jury have been seated. knox, rarely smiles now. raffaele sollecito has shaved his head. they have both been imprisoned for more than three years. knox's family says the couple who had met just eight days before the murder haven't communicated since their arrests. before the judge enters knox's mouths to raffaele, are you okay? it is a tender moment in what would be a strange hearing. this morning amanda knox's attorneys are to cross-examine an old witness. he is the homeless man who lived in this park and originally told the court he saw amanda and rafaelle near the crime scene the night of the murder. before testimony begins, cameras are ushered out of the court, and police bring in a star
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prosecution witness that the jury would find laughable. the homeless heroin addict could no longer remember the exact night he saw the couple. he was confused. it could have been halloween. actually, the night before the murder. then the star witness dropped a bombshell, admitting he was urn investigation by mignini's office for heroin possession at the time that he became mignini's star witness. in our interview the night before, mignini has no doubt, the tramp, as he calls him, was telling the truth. >> translator: if he says he saw them, and states it under oath, then we have to believe him, unless given reason not to. it's not as if the crime was filmed. i wish it had been. >> reporter: was he offering his testimony in hopes of getting favor in court? >> translator: no, he didn't get any favor at all. the witness presented himself and gave a statement. that's all.
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we took his statement because the evidence was relevant. >> so, you believe the testimony of a homeless heroin dealer? >> translator: i don't want to comment on the judicial proceedings regarding this individual. because he was tried for another matter, something completely different that had nothing to do with this trial, and so for this trial, he is a witness. >> translator: with mignini's main witness being challenged, it leaves only the scant dna evidence. and that, too, is about to be challenged.
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>> narrator: with the prosecution's main witness again being challenged on appeal, the case against amanda knox and raffaele sollecito seems to be hanging on two very small pieces of dna evidence. cnn has learned a court-ordered retesting of the forensic evidence will find no evidence of human blood anywhere on the knife found in rafaelle's
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apartment. a forensic expert telling cnn it's highly unlikely it could have been used in meredith kercher's bloody murder. the blood is so small it's not only inconclusive, there's nothing left to retest. as for rafaelle's dna found on one spot on meredith's bra clasp, prosecutor mignini told us no additional dna could be retested because the clasp was ruined in police storage. >> translator: the material from the hook had, i believe, deteriorated due to the presence of rust. and rust cannot be avoided because if you use some antirust product, you destroy any genetic material that is left. i don't want to go into this. but the material that was taken 3 1/2 years ago was definitive.
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>> narrator: dna expert greg hampikian says even in the dna was preserved, it doesn't explain how a single sample of raffaele's dna is all that was found in a bloody and violent crime scene. >> if that's all there is, and from what i've seen, that's all there is, then it's a very weak piece of evidence and inconsistent with every other piece of evidence in the case. >> reporter: twice a week, amanda's stepfather, chris, makes the drive to the prison where his 23-year-old stepdaughter is being held. he works in computer software and was able to move to italy. so, amanda would always have at least one member of the family here. >> it's about a half hour outside of perugia. >> reporter: he is hoping this summer he and amanda will move back home to seattle, but despite the evidence, or lack of evidence being presented in the appeal, neither one appears to be hopeful. how is she holding up?
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i heard you saying she doesn't want to be too hopeful, but -- >> no, she doesn't want to be too hopeful because it's difficult. things have gone our way in the past and we have been completely kicked in the teeth, so you don't want to -- you don't want to get hopeful. >> reporter: amanda knox is not allowed to talk to the press. her stepfather says she has no idea just how big this case has become. mignini knows all too well. the prosecutor who repeatedly told us he has nothing to be nervous about is again on the defensive. already found guilty of abuse of his office in the monster of florence case, he is now being accused of harassing journalists who criticize his investigation against amanda knox. last month, the international committee to protect journalists sent a scathing letter to the president of italy complaining about mignini's tactics saying in part, it is unacceptable
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journalists, bloggers, writers on both sides of the atlantic should sense censor themselves by staying away from subjects of public interest such as the meredith kercher case and the monster of florence killing because of prosecutor migninin's inability to tolerate the scrutiny that comes with public office. >> reporter: do you have any doubt, any doubt in your mind that you convicted the wrong people, that amanda knox and raffaele sollecito may, indeed, be innocent? >> translator: listen, i am very sincere so if i made certain requests it's because i was absolutely sure they were responsible, otherwise if i had had any doubt, i would have asked for an acquittal for lack of evidence. >> reporter: mignini is clearly under the gun and needs to make sure his convictions of amanda
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knox and raffaele sollecito are upheld on appeal -- exactly why knox's family is cautious. >> sometimes i'm just filled with hope and i know for sure that this is going away. but i was like that during the first trial because there was no evidence. >> reporter: for the knox family, their entire lives have been put on hold. curt knox and his ex-wife have mortgaged everything they own to pay for their daughter's defense. curt has two young daughters of his own, amanda's step sisters who have grown up watching their father travel back and forth to italy. he hopes very soon the trips will end and his entire family will be back together. >> you know, family events and stuff like that, there's always a chair open. >> reporter: really? >> yeah. the three girls had their picture taken.

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