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giuliani, 75%. now, those are two people who disagree on almost everything. okay? giuliani is as moderate as you can get in the republican party. sarah palin is as conservative as you can get. then you have romney, who's now ranking number one, ranking third in this. so you can see where the republican party is split here, between the economic conservatives and the social conservatives and the people who really just want to win. so this will make our debate really interesting. because republicans will be tuning in for the first time to see the differences among these candidates. because right now they're obviously very undecided, randi. >> oh, yeah. this is going to be an exciting one to watch, gloria. thank you so much. that will do it for me, everyone. cnn newsroom continues right now with brooke baldwin. >> thank you so much. hello to all of you. you know, i want to begin this
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hour with a story, it's clearly emerging. in fact, since we last met there has been this ominous turn of events. it's really shaken the middle east. you heard about this. over this past weekend the syria government raised the anteagainst the opposition. you have the president, bashar al assad. he unleashed his armed forces -- tanks, warplanes, mortars, came down hard on a town at the turkish border. it's considered a ghost town today according to humans rights activists. the thousands of people who live there have now fled across the border. they're filling up these tents, these refugee camps, just about as fast as the turkish government can get them set up. keep in mind, since the crisis in syria began in mid-march, we have had to rely on youtube, on cell phones, on blog posts, some reliable, some not, because the syrian government is barring journalists from entering the country. we've tried. we're denied again and again. now these refugees, the ones who
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have reached turkey, they are telling their stories. cnn's arwa damon is there for us on the turkish side of the border. arwa, what is it that these syrians are saying about the assad government's onslaught of this town, jisr al shughur. >> reporter: that is naturally the first question one does pose. most people's initial response is we can't quote what we saw, the horror of it all, into words. we've had numerous stories of people who have had -- claim security forces burnt their farmland, killed their livestock, destroyed their homes. amnesty international is now calling it a scorched earth policy that syria's implementing, trying to drive these refugees to turkey. others have told us horrific stories of how they were out at peaceful demonstrations or at funerals when they claim syrian security forces opened fire. they talk about people just falling to the ground around them, many of them fleeing with
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just the clothes on their backs. coming to turkey, but none of them have any idea, brooke, of when they're going to be able to go back home. >> it's the unknown. it's simply just getting away and getting into turkey. that's only one side of the story. the other side of the story as you well know, arwa, that's emerging today we're hearing these reports, these syrian soldiers either leaving that battlefield or simply defecting to the opposition. from talking, arwa, to some of these witnesses, some of these syrians, can you gauge the disaffection within the syrian armed forces? they must be frustrated. >> reporter: well, brooke, one does hear more and more stories about members of the syrian military defecting. but there are nowhere near the numbers that the opposition would need or would like to see in terms of this ongoing campaign to bring down the president. he still does have the support, whether it's because people are afraid to defect or because they are, in fact, loyal. but he, regardless, has enough
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support for the time being to be able to hold on to power. in fact, one activist i was speaking to earlier today was saying they really do need to try to win over the syrian military. what some of them have been doing during these demonstrations, we were hearing, is that they were directly on loud speakers reaching out to the military saying don't shoot at us. we're syrian. we're not terrorists like the government is saying we are. we're not carrying weapons. we are your brother and we are your countrymen. but at the same time, we do hear stories of these defections. i was watching a video that was a clip of a soldier who was holding up his id card. he was explaining how he was given orders to go out and he was told that he had to save his country from what his commanders were telling him were terrorists that were coming into syria from north africa, from the gulf. then he says he went out on to the streets and realized they were just civilians who were there. he refused to shoot. he was given orders to shoot. at that point he realized he had no choice but to get away. he now is camped out in this
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makeshift camp on the syrian side of the syrian/turkish border. >> let's say soldiers aside, you hear, and the best we can is hear these reports from people on the streets of syria. they hear these promises, right, from the assad government. it's been weeks and weeks and weeks of hearing these promises. has that message reached the streets? and now they unleash this full onslaught, as you've been reporting, on their own people. do you at all see some sort of tipping point or turning point here on the story in syria? >> reporter: at this stage it's very hard to say in terms of a turning point being in favor of the regime or against it. it seems like both sides are so heartened in their stance. yes, the president came out and promised all these reforms. yes, he invoked the emergency law. but at the same time, his security apparatus continued using the same policies that people wanted to see abolished. so in that sense there has been
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no change whatsoever. the opposition does not want regime -- does not want for the regime to promise reforms and implement reforms anymore. they want the regime to go. they're saying that's the only option right now and that there's no room for compromise. because they believe this is a regime that's going to do whatever it's going to take to crush these voices of dissent. as we have been seeing, it would seem that the syrian regime doesn't differentiate between a child and adult. >> it is a story you have reported on in other countries, arwa, the hardened stance on both sides, a stalemate thus far. arwa, thank you. speaking of, all these events over the weekend, in syria they're raising pressure on the white house to get in, to do something. exactly what that something is, is really unclear at this point. but a republican senator appears to be saying it is time to consider a military option. listen. >> it made sense to protect the libyan people against gadhafi and it did because they were going to get slaughtered, if we hadn't sent nato in when he was on the outskirts of benghazi, the question for the world, have
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we gotten to that point in syria? i think we may not be there yet but we're getting very close. if you really care about protecting the syrian people from slaughter, now is the time to let assad know all options are on the table. >> jill doherty standing by at the state department, what's the word on that, jill? i know you asked today in the briefing about maybe some of the allies taking some type of physical military action. what word are you getting? how far can the carnage in syria go before washington finally steps in and says enough is enough? >> we really went over that a lot at the state department in the briefing. the words are strong. listen to what the spokesman was saying. drum beat of abuses. abhorrent violence. alarming. when you come down to military action, they say they are not there yet. they say they're taking economic action. that means sanctions. they're also taking diplomatic action. let's listen first to what he
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said. >> is the u.s. pushing its allies to take some type of physical military action to stop what you're talking about, a drum beat of abuses over weeks? >> what we've been clear about is that our effort remains diplomatic and economic. we have brought pressure to bear on assad through these sanctions, both the eu and here in the united states. and the other aspect of this is that we are working through the u.n. human rights commission so that he and his government will be held accountable for their actions. but, you know, speculating about military action, we're just not there yet. >> jill, we hear him say we're not there yet. then we also heard from senator graham over the weekend saying look at what we did as libya is potentially what we need to do in syria. others who stepped in said that as well. isn't syria, when you compare the two countries here, syria
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and libya, very different ball games. >> you know, they're very different countries. and that's what you hear. when you say it sounds logical, you know, a country repressing its people, it's very serious, imminent situation, why not take military action. well, they are two enormously different countries. libya really is small and insignificant when you compare it to syria. big country, major country in the region. big economy. pretty strong military. and then also you have to pull together a coalition. the u.s. -- there's no way the u.s. is going to do this independently. at this point even the countries in the region are kind of fearful of taking action because if you touch this hornet's nest, what will happen next? let's say if assad goes, a lot of fear that the next thing that could happen in syria could be another iran. and so, you know, everybody's holding back and they say it's a terrible situation. but what you're going to see,
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you know, are you going to see some type of military action? it could take a while. >> it's one thing to hear these harsh words, the drum beat of abuse, and quite another to actually take action. jill doherty following the action out of syria in the state department. then there's this whole other story. this blog. it was the gay girl in damascus plog. so the trials and the tribulations of this lesbian writer turned out to be total fantasy. the words of a 40-year-old married american man who claims he just wanted a western audience to care about the story in syria. there is a reporter who had a hunch this whole thing was a hoax, didn't give up, cracked this story. that is npr's andy carbon. he's going to join me later to talk this through about why this seemed fishy to him and what's next. plus, did you hear about this little event we're hosting in new hampshire tonight? take a look at our time lapse video. this is inside the hall where tonight's gop presidential debate will be happening. jessica yellin will be here
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you know her. she's our national political correspondent. jessica, is it time? is this ready, set go for real now? 2012? >> reporter: you know, i just was over at the debate site. i have to tell you, brooke, it looked like it's election season all over again. it looked like the big time. i took a picture on my blackberry and i thought of tweeting it, but i'm really scared of twit pics these days so i'm not sending it. >> very funny. >> >> reporter: this is the beginning. >> obviously there's a lot of people who will be watching tonight. we're going to have to see if tim pawlenty goes after mitt romney and also romney considered really a front-runner. in fact, he is aiming his attacks, we heard him when he announced back in new hampshire, right, he's aiming his attacks directly to president obama. also, pawlenty seems to want to pgs himself as romney's top rival. so is that, jessica, is that what you'll be watching for, whether we see pawlenty going after romney? >> reporter: i think that'll be one of the key storylines that
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we'll watch for tonight. all of the candidates, no doubt, will be taking some aim at mitt romney because he is the nominal front-runner at this point. what tim pawlenty has said is he's pointed out that mitt romney passed this romney care, what they're terming romney care obamney care. >> you don't have to take my word for it. take president obama's word for it. president obama said he designed obama care aboutny care and basically made it obamneycare. >> reporter: why is this relevant? two big things, brooke. one is tim pawlenty is sort of considered by thought leaders, washington, republican operatives, the likely sort of favorite establishment republican if mitt romney should stumble and lose the front-runner status.
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so he would theoretically have the most to gain. and this is an opportunity to show that mitt romney endorsed in the pawlenty people's view a plan that embraces big government values, that in their view is very similar to the kind of big government values that president obama embraced that are so unpopular with the republican voters. so they're trying to point out that contrast without seeming like they're too critical of a fellow republican, which is a danger in itself. >> okay. so that is tim pawlenty, mitt romney. we're going to have five ore participants in new hampshire with you tonight. 15 seconds, jessica yellin. run through them. >> reporter: is there a click? >> newt gingrich, 15 seconds. go. >> gingrich just lost his whole staff. has to go up there, remind voters why they like him which is that he's got a lot of passion, he's got a lot of ideas. i also have to point out he can get things done. he can hire people and implement. that's the big challenge. >> ron paul. go. >> reporter: ron paul. favorite son. the entire republican universe
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has moved to embrace his views on debt, on spending. his big challenge will be is he still the main guy now that there are so many others espousing his views? herman cain and michele bachmann will also be sharing his sort of positions. so he'll have a little competition in that corridor. >> you mentioned herman cain. herman cain. go. >> reporter: herman cain. he is entertaining. he will come out of tonight with a lot of people who didn't know him talking about him. the rap on him is that he's a guy voters overwhelmingly think communicating effectively, says a message that makes sense, people tend to like him. i think that he will probably unless there's a big stumble have a lot of new fans tomorrow. >> two more. former u.s. senator rick santorum from the state of p.a. who is he? >> reporter: santorum, he was a former u.s. senator. and his main message is about social issues. he also talks about the fiscal issue. but his area of comfort and what makes him unique is his focus on issues like abortion, issues
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like gay marriage. to the extent he can draw the conversation to his comfort zone, he will stand out. >> finally, the soul woman, not declared as you well know, michele bachmann. what does chshe have to do? >> reporter: for her the challenge will be to show she can hold her own up there by staying off -- she's going to be off script and has to be on message. and talk about issues that aren't always her tea party message but mix it up on the economy, mix it up on some nonsocial issues. she's known for her social issues as well. but she has a very ardent following within a small narrow sector of conservative vote rs. she has to try to broaden her appeal. >> bravo, jessica yellin. >> reporter: did i get it in in time? >> i smell a new segment. free association with jessica yellin. >> reporter: do i get a prize? >> i'll think of something. don't forget to watch the debate. jessica ran down all these folks you'll be seeing from 8:00 eastern tonight only here on cnn.
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an outline in the shape of a heart found on the duct tape that covered 2-year-old caylee antho anthony's mouth. an fbi expert testified about this today as the prosecution is preparing to wrap up its murder case against caylee anthony's mother, casey anthony. we are waiting to see who prosecutors will call as their final witness. that, keep in mind, happens tomorrow. the defense could start its presentation this coming thursday. and the judge says the jury could get the case in less than two weeks. our favorite legal contributor sunny hostin, she's going to join us next with some of her insights. that'll be coming up next hour. 40 years to the day after daniel ellsberg leaped into "the new york times" the pentagon papers are fully declassified, opened to the public. they were a secret 7,000-page study of the vietnam war. they revealed that the government lied to congress and the american people about how the war was going and until today, only edited and redacted versions of the pentagon papers have been published. at the time the entire report is online. go to the national archives
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website. you can buy an extra souvenir on your summer vacation. gas prices, yes, they are down. they are expected to continue to fall. the lundberg survey finds the average price has dropped 17 cents in the last three weeks. it is now sitting at $3.74 a gallon and survey publisher trilby lundberg says three things that will keep pushing gas prices down, number one, an oversupply of gasoline. two, weak demand. and, three, an expected production increase by saudi arabia. coming up next, the roller coaster ride that is this huge arizona wildfire. look at that smoke. it still continues to burn. just 10% contained. they got a break for just a little while this weekend. homeowners were able to go back, check in on their houses. now the situation has taken a turn again. we're going to fill you in. then, why anthony weiner's sexting habits cannot be compared to those of a bored housewife. i didn't say that. wendy walsh did.
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contained for a number of days. at least we have a ten now. still, red flag. >> yeah. still concerns out there for today. the 10% is huge. this is huge progress compared to what we were dealing with last week. but today those winds have kicked up a little bit and they're gusting around 30 miles per hour along with that low humidity. conditions are still critical. the biggest concern about today is that more of that spotting could occur. new fires as embers get blown by those winds. they've been finding and have been building these fire containment lines. there you can see firefighters have been out there, they've been cutting down some of this brush. they're doing a lot of mop up now which means they get those hot spots that are still kind of burning and still very hot in those areas. the good news is that some people have been allowed to return home now in springerville as well as in eager. they're warning people, if you go home it's still really dangerous because the air quality is so poor. they're also a little bit concerned about the quality of the water. you might want to be boiling that if you are going home. they're saying only do it if you absolutely have to. we want to mention this is the
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second largest wildfire, like you said, brooke. but it's very close now to becoming the third. one another thing i want to point out, i want to show how successful the firefighters have been in saving homes. look at this red area. that's the outline of the 700 square miles which have burned now. that's the equivalent of los angeles and chicago combined, completely burned down. look at this. there you can see alpine, doing okay. they really have done a great job protecting some of these cities. hopefully they'll continue to make progress. wind conditions improving by tomorrow. >> thank goodness. at least we have the 10% and it will gradually, gradually go up and up. jacqui jeras, keep us posted on that. now to a story, i tell you what. i was in d.c. over the weekend. everyone was talking about this. even president obama joining in today has something to say about anthony weiner and this whole sexting scandal. we heard from the white house today who said the president thinks this whole thing is a distraction and that weiner's
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behavior was inappropriate. in fact, many top democrats in congress are now flatout saying he's got to go. and they said that, by the way, before these latest pictures surfaced publicly. have you seen these? these are from tmz.com. they appear to show weiner in the house gym. so is this just, you know, quintessential narcissism? i'm going to speak with a psychologist, human behavior expert, wendy walsh in just a moment. i do want to get the latest reporting and the news out of this today. dana bash, i know as you and i have been corresponding via e-mail you're getting information on calls to reare sign from both parties. also interesting details, color about weiner's emotional state. >> reporter: that's right. obviously the big news over the weekend was the fact that democratic leaders in a coordinated hit effectively said publicly that anthony weiner should resign. i spoke to somebody, democratic source who spoke to anthony weiner after that broke who said he was still at that point on the fence.
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quote, on the fence about whether he was going to step down. even though the hammer had been dropped on him big time. because he's saying privately he had still believed that he didn't do anything to break house rules. on his emotional state, very interesting and obviously very sad. because i am told by sources who've talked to him, they describe him as in a state of, quote, despair, emotional despair, and also turbulent. i've spoken to several people who have been in touch with him at least until he went to this treatment center who said that they really couldn't get through a conversation with him without him breaking down several times. that he is in a very, very bad place as you can imagine. >> so that is where he is emotionally. but we've got to get back to politics here. we know as you mentioned some top democrats were already saying, you mentioned through the weekend, in fact yesterday morning he has to go. is there really more they can do? let's listen here. debbie wasserman schultz, chair of the democratic party. this is what she said yesterday morning. >> at the end of the day a
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member of congress makes their own decision. that's certainly going to be up to an hoeny weiner. but we have made clear that he needs to resign. he needs to focus on getting his own personal issues in order. focus on his family and do the right thing. >> so now what, dana? >> reporter: now what, they're still waiting in the democratic leadership. the number two democrat steny hoyer told our ous today they'r waiting to see what he decides. there are two options. one to strip him of his committee assignments. another is to kick him out of the democratic caucus. neither of these, we're told, are actively being discussed yet because they're kind of still waiting a couple of days. but the question is, what is he going to decide? you know, brooke, we had talked about last week about the fact that i'd heard that he was
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telling his colleagues that he wanted to wait until his wife, huma, returned to make the final decision. the source i talked to who spoke to weiner told me that specifically he said that he wants to be able to, quote, look her in the eye and discuss whether or not this is the right thing to do. because he has hurt her so much. he was telling his colleagues that she was saying that she wanted him to stay. whether that is a delaying tactic or whether that is real really remains to be seen. >> that would be a very, very difficult conversation. dana bash, do me a favor and stay right there. we also want to continue this conversation. got to get a break in. also standing by, psychologist wendy walsh. we're bringing her back, wanting to ask her two things. is weiner a helpless narcissist and why don't we ever hear about the ladies, female lawmakers involved in these kind of scandals. be to breathe be to breathe and what that feels like. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms... by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours.
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a lot of us keep asking the same question about this story. what is it that drives someone so successful in his professional life to make such bad choices in his personal life? i have wendy walsh standing by to help us figure this one out. psychologist, human behavior expert. wenty, thank you for coming back. also dana bash stand big on capitol hill to join the conversation here as well. wendy, let me start with you. i want to begin with the fact that congressman anthony weiner is going to rehab. we don't have a lot of details about what specifically that is. let me ask you this. is it a real effort, he's going, taking this leave, going to rehab? is this a real effort to deal with this problem or is it just sort of a quick band-aid solution, saving face? >> i'm a big believer, of
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course, that all therapy is good therapy. it can be helpful. we all need some time of personal growth. so if this is the impetus that gets him there, great. let's see if he can do some work there. it's also a way to save face. let's face it. this guy wants to change his image. but the problem is, and the reason why he's sticking to his guns about not resigning is that sexting or sending frisky e-mails is just so common and so popular. and he knows that enough people are going to support him because he didn't break any laws. >> what we're hearing as dana bash has been reporting, people from his own party and now we're hearing even from the white house today saying, look, this is a distraction, the fact that he is not yet resigning. let's talk about the "n" word which is narcissism. is this just the perfect case of quintessential narcissism here? >> you're asking me or dana? >> you, wendy walsh. >> okay. well, i think to some degree it is but i think the internet provides people this illusion of privacy. it provides them with a lot of
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opportunity to have these text relationships with people. and this weird illusion that it's just a private relationship. people forget that it is set in stone forever. and while of course you have to have a good degree of mars schi narcissism just to get the job he's in, maybe that's a piece of it. >> dana bash, i want you to respond first. we hear of all this high profile men in politics, scandals. hardly any female lawmaker. there was a recent article "new york times" in the. they talk about how women have different reasons for running. quote, women run for office to do something. men run for office to be somebody. dana bash, what has the reaction been among female -- among congresswoman with regard to this scandal that's erupted? >> reporter: well, it's very interesting. first of all, i will tell you that somebody asked me over the weekend, brooke, about the fact that two leading women, nancy
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pelosi and debbie wasserman schultz, the fact that they came down and said anthony weiner should resign, should we take anything from that, i said we should take from that that women are in the highest positions possible at least in the democratic party. that's interesting. what are they saying? as you can imagine, brooke, nobody would say this even close to on the record or at all, but private conversations with some female lawmakers, some eye rolling, some shrugging of the shoulders saying what is it with these guys? why is it that guy after guy after guy gets in situations like this? you know, women are certainly walking around here with a lot of powerful positions and it's not happening to them. >> look, wendy, i'll give you the last word. i don't want to take men to task here. women are guilty as well. perhaps not necessarily in the same capacity on capitol hill, but we flirt with breaking the rules and we break the rules as well. why is it that we keep seeing man after man after man publicly? >> two reasons. of course, we're all e-mails and
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sending frisky e-mails to each other. there's a world of difference between a public figure and a bored housewife who's sending pervy e-mails to her high school sweetheart. that is that he's a public figure and he's voted in. there is a gender divide for sure in this. men believe sexting is not cheating because they have an ability to compartmentalize and keep sex as a separate thing. women, of course, know that that's a relationship. that there's another person at the other end of that keyboard. i would bet my bottom dollar on the fact that a bunch of those women pictured themselves the future first lady of new york city. trust me, women go into this to find relationships. men go into it to find sex. >> ladies, i wish we could keep going, but we can't. wendy walsh and dana bash, i appreciate you both. fascinating conversation. moving on, it turns out it was all a hoax. turns out there is no gay girl in damascus after all. did you read the blog? in fact, there's no girl at all. you know the blogger who got so much attention when she reportedly disappeared in syria last week? it turns out she is actually a
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masters, here he is in this broad band interview. me made up a whole identity. he purported to be a gay syrian woman. the world was enraptured by this blog. he called it a gay girl in damascus. his faith identity, he called himself or i should say herself amina inspired readers who followed along as she joined these protests against syria's leaders and took personal risks like having romances with women and it all turned out to be a big lie or if you check the -- if you check the blog today a big hoax. people are furious now. all kinds of fallout today. some in the gay community say tom mcmaster risked their own safety and harmed their own cause. and the journalist who really helped uncover this whole thing is this guy, andy carbon. he is a senior strategist over at npr. andy, it is a pleasure to have you on. we've been following your twitter. we've got to get this guy on. so many journalists chased this
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story down the rabbit hole. not you, andy. when did you start smelling something fishy? >> it was a crazy week. i was never really a full-time reader of the blog, though i certainly knew of it. there aren't many high-profile bloggers coming out of syria let alone doing it in english. she drew a lot of attention. just the name alone, a gay girl in damascus is going to be a compelling read. as it turns out she was a good writer as well. but not too long after word got out on monday that supposedly she had been kidnapped, i began hearing from sources of mine in the syrian community including some gay syrians. and not only were they skeptical of her stories, they weren't totally convinced she existed either. so i just started asking questions on twitter and facebook. have any of you met her in person? do you know her at all? the more i asked, the less i learned. because no one had met her. not even the reporters who had supposedly interviewed her in person. they hadn't done that either. it was all done through text relationships only. >> alas, she is a he.
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tom mcmaster. 40-year-old american. posting under this amina since 2006. seems to me reading his apology today, you know, he's a fiction writer, a wannabe fiction writer perhaps with a pension for middle eastern issue. what have you learned about him? by the way, what have you also learned about the photo? who is this woman? who is she? >> well, let's start with that. as the story began to unravel early last week, "the wall street journal" and other news organizations started reporting that there was this woman in london, a croatian woman whose ex-husband saw the photo on a website after amina had been quote, unquote, kidnapped. he alerted amina and she started contacting news organizations saying take my face off of websites. that's me. >> zero connection to this whole story. >> zero connection. possibly -- from what we can
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tell, tom mcmaster is originally from the atlanta area. he's currently studying at the university of edinburgh. over the last five years he was interested in doing this online experiment, trying to push the boundaries between truth and fiction. it just grew and grew and grew. now we have amina essentially fooling everyone who had followed her up to this point. >> i know you have dissected this guy sort of inside out. his execution was poor and his intentions were good. i listened to the interview. i also read part of the mea culpa on the blog. my intentions were good. i got carried away. i owe apologies to those i hurt and will do all in my power to make things right. i only wanted to set forth real information through the use of artfully crafted fiction. i was too successful and too caught up in what i was doing. i ignored the consequences of my action. here's my question to you. his intentions really were to imli
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illuminate the story of the syrians for a western audience. do you think at all he missed the point given the fact that syria, let's be honest, not always above the fold? >> i think that is an important point. news organizations around the world are struggling to get quality information out of syria. this seemed to have started as an experiment. in some ways he just ended up in a very lucky situation, from his point of view, at least, that syria suddenly found itself in the middle of a rebellion. he upped the anteand created a blog around the character. it certainly brought attention to syria. but it also brought a lot of people at risk. because there are protesters all over the country, especially members of the local gay community, who spent the last week very, very scared that this was some form of intelligence op or something else that could have gotten them killed. >> andy carvin, fascinating article on your website, npr. you can follow andy at @acarvin to read through the
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deconstruction of this blog. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. coming up next, they're calling them the dirty dozen. the 12 fruits and vegetables with the most pesticides. can you guess which one tops the list? i had one of these just yesterday. here are a couple of choices. you have spinach, grapes, apples and celery. we'll have the answer for you after the break. plus, we have a music monday treat for you.
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do you remember earl y this month the government replaced the old food pyramid with a dinner plate. it said you're supposed to fill half of that plate with servings of fruits and vegetables. but here's the thing. many of those fruits and veggies are loaded with pesticides. the group said the biggest offender they found this year was apples. it replaced celery, which topped last year's list, the study found that 92% of apples contain two pesticides. we're going to talk with elizabeth cohen. she'll walk me through which fruits and vegetables are the cleanest and what you can do to minimize your exposure.
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that's coming up in half an hour from now. what happens when you bring together 100,000 people for four days in the scorching heat in tennessee to watch more than 120 bands rock out. one word -- bonnaroo. the folks you see there, just as eclectic as the music. it is trending on this music monday. >> hi. i'll bill bailey. i'm a comedian from london. this is my first bonnaroo. it's awesome. a freakazoid bonanza of love and good vibes. >> bonnoo to me is a city on whooels. it's a place where everybody can, you know, pull in and all of a sudden become a part of
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♪ >> how fun is that? quick special shoutout and my sincerest thanks to our photojournalist who spent the weekend -- tough gig, guys -- in manchest manchester, tennessee, to bring us that piece. i just interviewed mumford and sons last nigh. coming up next, wolf blitzer. he's in new hampshire getting ready for tonight's gop debate. what topics does he think will cause the most fireworks tonight. and then testimony at the casey anthony murder trial focuses on the shape of a heart found underneath duct tape on little caylee's mouth. be right back. (rambling phone conversation)
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>> et will's go to wolf blitzer live in new hampshire. wolf, we know it's six men, one woman. what should we be looking for? >> one of the things i'm going to be looking for. i know all of them are going to be pouncing, going after president obama. that goes without saying. i'm going to see how tough they are on the front-runner here in new hampshire. that would clearly be the former massachusetts governor mitt romney who's basically a native son now in new hampshire. he lives here now. he's very popular here. i want to see how tough they are in going after him. another thing i'm going to be
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looking sfr newt gingrich, how does he come out of the disast erk the -- disaster, almost all of his senior staff quitting on him after coming back from that cruise to the mediterranean. those two points right there, how tough everyone is on mitt romney and how newt gingrich gets out of this political mess he's in. can he make a comeback? i'll be watching those two points with keen interest. >> as these republican hopefuls square off, do we know where president obama will be tonight? will he still be in florida? >> yes, he's raising a ton of money right now. even though he has no democratic opposition right now, unlike four years ago when he was challenged not only by hillary clinton, but a lot of other democrats and he had almost 50 primaries and caucus states and contests that he had to fight through. he raised about $700 million last time around. this time he wants to raise $1 billion, that according to his
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campaign advisers. even though he doesn't have any primary challenges, any caucus challengers. he's very busy going to all these fundraisers, raising money from rich men and women. to his campaign thinks he'll need $1 billion. let's see how he does. >> it's the top of the hour. we're four hours away from that debate. we'll get another political update for you in half an hour. the best political team on cnn is working in overdrive, ready to produce you to the public men and woman who want your vote in 2012. we'll take you live to new
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hampshire. i'm brooke baldwin. >> beaner, bonner, boner. thank goodness i'm not weiner. >> there is a lawmaker who allegedly got caught with his pants down literally. they call it dinner time, they call before your alarm clock goes off. they call to demand the money you owe. >> this is an attempt to collect a debt. now debt collectors go on a charm offensive. secret papers shared with cnn. they appear to reveal gadhafi's battle plans and confidential code words like tomato? cnn examines the documents as we wait for the libyan leader's next move. welcome back, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. the bigamistry today in the
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casey anthony murder trial is who will prosecutors call as their last witness? prosecutors could wrap up their case as early as tomorrow afternoon. and just this morning a print analyst testified that she saw the outline of a heart on a piece of duct tape apparently put over caylee anthony's mouth. >> if you were to wear a bandaid for an extended period of time and remove the band-aid, a glue surface vournding that band-aid. the heart resembled the band-aid that you had been wearing for a period of time. but it was in the shape of a heart. >> let's talk about the prosecution, it could wrap up its case.
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is it ahead of schedule? >> it's going more quickly than any of us thought. we are on day 17 of this trial. remember, the o.j. simpson, which was the longest trial in california history lasted 37 weeks. so we're talking about two weeks only, and he's saying that the prosecution is likely to rest either tomorrow or the next morning. >> okay. let's talk about this heart outline, as we just heard in testimony. it was this heart outline on the duct tape that covered caylee anthony's mouth. how could that get there? >> well, you know, the prosecution hasn't really answered that question. i think they're going to leave it up to the jury to figure it out, but they did introduce evidence, brooke, that these heart-shaped stickers were found inside of the casey home, casey anthony home when it was checked. and so i think the prosecution wants the jury to infer that casey anthony placed that
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heart-shaped sticker on the duct tape that was found on caylee anthony's mouth. that's probably the only logical inference one can make. >> potentially there would have been some sort of heart sticker underbeneath this duct tape? >> on top. on top of the duct tape. some people are thinking well, that's the sign of a conflicted killer, right? if you believe that casey anthony did kill her daughter, caylee anthony, she sealed it with a kiss, the heart-shaped sticker. >> wow. okay. we have seen testimony about chloroform, we saw that last week. flies in this -- the smell of death, the smell of a body in casey anthony's car trunk. have prosecutors made the case that caylee's body was in that trunk? >> you know, i think they have. when you look at it, you look at so many witnesses, talking about the smell of death, then you have a forensic scientist that also talks about death and the
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smell and how he measured that. you're talking also about evidence of flies that can only be found with decomposing bodies. cadaver dogs that alert at the trunk. the hair that was found that is consistent, that it came from a decomposing body. all of that together is pretty significant and compelling evidence, i think, that a body, caylee anthony's body was in the trunk of that car. >> have they conclusively made the case that casey anthony killed her little 2-year-old. because one thing we were talking about earlier is we really haven't seen a clear motive. shouldn't they be providing one? >> there you have it. that's the problem that i think the jury may have with the prosecution's case. the prosecution doesn't have to prove motive, brooke. it's not an element of the crime. but it's the question that most jurors have and it's a question a very good prosecutor makes sure he or she has answered before that jury goes into the jury room.
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it's the why question. i haven't seen motive. typically there's a history of mental illness, child abuse. child protective services are often called in situations like this before the murder occurs. none of that is present here. the prosecutor said in opening statements, you know, this is about casey anthony wanting to live the good life. well, i haven't seen evidence of that motive yet. perhaps we'll hear about it in the prosecution rebuttal case, but if we don't hear about it tomorrow, i don't think we've heard it yet. >> so we haven't specifically heard a motive. we're about to hear from the defense potentially thursday if, you know, our timing and guessing is correct, the jury could get the case in about two weeks. what's your prediction? we talked about this before. casey anthony, she has to testify, doesn't she? >> she has to testify, and i've said it over and over again. i've said it since opening statements. jose baez i thought did a wonderful job in opening statements. but the theory relies on someone getting on the witness stand
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saying caylee anthony wasn't murdered. she died by dying in the family pool. the only person who can get on the witness stand and tell that story is casey ant in i. i think we're going to see here either the end of this week or perhaps next week. >> that's. >> the day so many people are watching for. we'll bring you back tomorrow and continue watching this case right with you. sunny, thank you. coming up next, it seems everyone out there has some sort of opinion about congressman anthony weiner. now the president of the united states is weighing in as well. we're going to tell you what he said. and then, listen to this -- >> this is an attempt to collect a debt. >> ever gotten those phone calls? the move by debt collectors to try to revamp their image.
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>> well, it was looking good this morning. a little bit of a rally on wall street. the dow ended down again. what happened? >> standard & poor's lored its rate on greek debt. vf corp said it was buying timberland. arbie's is being sold to a group. it showed confidence in the marketplace. but that didn't last.
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yes, we ended up down only one point. >> here's one job i would not like to have, being a debt collector. they're known to call at all hours of the day. they want your money. why are they trying to make nice now? >> they're sick and tired of getting no respect. they want some love. one thing that really set in my mind was saying that their colleague was threatened with having their arms and legs cut off for trying to collect money. they've got a job to do, they want respect. so this trade organization that represents them, they want to show that they're really good people. so they're pushing for changing in washington. they want these collectors to be able to contact delinquent consumers on e-mail and cell phones. right now, all they can do is contact you on your land line and mail. but that means they're going to hound you day and night on every
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single phone you have. i don't know how they're going to make amends there. they want some clear rules on how to talk to you, what kind of voice mail they can leave. but good luck with that. if you think about what the ftc said, they said they got more complaints about debt collectors than any other industry in 2010. their top complaint, you know, these calls. they were repeatedly coming, they were being harassed. that's using profane language, calling before 8:00 a.m., after 9:00 a.m. threatening to use violence if they didn't pay. >> what do you mean by they're going to the to work on how they talk to you. is that what you mean? no cursing, please? >> yeah. exactly. they want to know exactly what the rules are so they're not harassed. the debt collectors say we're the ones that's harassed.
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coming up, new pictures and details in the anthony weiner scandal. the president weighing in saying the congressman's behavior is inappropriate. one aide says he's in a state of despair and his state is turbulent. clarence clemons has reportedly suffered a stroke over the weekend. he was initially paralyzed on his left side. known by his nickname the big man, he most recently appeared with lady gaga on "american idol." new zealand, christchurch hit with a pair of earthquakes today within 90 minutes of one another.
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some damage, some minor injuries have been reported, but remember, the city has been recovering ever since this past february when it was hit with a 6.3 magnitude quake that killed some 180 people. to minnesota, where a home improvement project turned into an extreme home makeover. watch. >> yikes! crews trying to install a fiber gas pool in with the backyard. the crane, you saw in the video came crashing down on the garage. the crane company promises to pay for the damage. and if you are one of the more than 100 million monthly bait torrent users. you might want to think twice before your next down load. more than 50,000 users are being
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sued for down loading "the hurt locker" or "the expendables." subpoenas have been issued to several internet service providers for the identities of those users. to miami where dirk nowitzki and the dallas mavericks are the nba world champs. they beat lebron james 105-95 last night. the victory gives the mavericks and owner mark cuban their first nba title in franchise history. fans of hometown hero dirk nowitzki were watching the game in germany. all the fans watching the game in dallas, look at the crowds, the team returned to dallas today, trophy in hand. a victory parade set for june 20. finally, everyone likes a nice relaxing game of chess, right? check mate. well, you can add libyan leader moammar gadhafi to that list. here's video over the weekend showing gadhafi.
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playing chess with the president of the world chess federation who reportedly was invited to libya by gadhafi and presented the lead we are a chess set. libyan state television says the meeting was held sunday but it's not clear from the video where it took place. >> and while gadhafi was playing chess, cnn was given secret papers that apparently reveal the battle plans and it confidential code words like tomato. we'll tell you what else next. with honey nut cheerios cereal. kissed with real honey. and the 100% natural whole grain oats can help lower your cholesterol. you are so sweet to me. bee happy. bee healthy.
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u.s. secretary hillary clinton has had to cut her visit short to africa because of a volcano. she urged them to kick out diplomats who represent gadhafi's regime. the uae says the credentials for the current libyan ambassador will run out in 72 hours but in libya, cnn now obtained documents from some of the rebels they say outline the government's battle plans for taking back the city of misrata. >> rebels they say got a hold of the enemy's battle plan to take hold of the city. >> it was very beneficial. we were able to find out about
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the bring gads' movements, the direction they planned their attack, the number of soldier, the type of artillery used and the in um ber of military vehicles. >> reporter: rebels gave us this document they say is a copy of the top secret military strategy. they say they got it from a high-ranking ka daf fwi officer captured in late may. they say they fully believe this is an authentic military document. it is 15 pages long and comes complete with a government stamp and top secret written on nearly every page. the document says it is a battle plan to cleanse the city of misrata from militant gangs, and to destroy mercenary elements and deceived youth. but the vast majority of the rebels we have met on misrata's frontlines say they are just citizens, fiercely loyal to misrata and intent on protecting their families under attack. the alleged military document also contains secret codes. for example, the regime's code for nato is flies.
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tomato is code for sniper ammunition. and beast is code for grad missile. a long distance weapon the gadhafi military used again and again on this city. it also says there are more than 11,000 forces loyal to gadhafi surrounding misrata. >> i think the number of troops mentioned in this document are definitely exaggerated. also our intelligence on the ground indicated that gadhafi forces have a lot less people than what this document said. >> the spokesman says is the document was only useful for a short period of time before the gadhafi forces became aware and changed their tactics. the government has not responded to our request for a comment on the authenticity to the document. b at a news conference, a government official said it's only the continuous and constant bombardment from the sea and air
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preventing us from claiming total victory. but in recent week, nato has not been active in misrata. the rebels say this reveals that the gadhafi regime is so desperate they're even lying to their own troops about their capabilities on the battle front. >> let the countdown begin. we are 3 1/2 hours away from tonight's gop debate. jessica yellin is going to talk to me live next about these republicans, stheez several republicans, including one woman who will be on that stage. we'll be right back. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.
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hampshire who met with all of the republican candidates and he made the case that newt gingrich's best effort would be -- his best move would be to make the case that he's going to do what another favorite candidate did here in the state before, something john mccain did. listen to this. >> in july 2007, staft from scratch, live off the land and rebuild the campaign from the grassroots. i'm going to work with the people in new hampshire and start building my campaign here. >> so it's sort of a novel approach, spinning a negative into a positive. let them leave, i'm going to be a man of the people and work with the people i trust most without operatives and make my case to you. let's see if going gipg going actually chooses to make that case. we know he's a great talker, very energetic, but we'll see if
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he's persuasive on this point. >> as he talks about potentially returning to his roots, grassroots there. >>'s a new cnn poll on what the gop agrees on. what does that indicate? >> so this poll shows that 75% of republican voters nationwide want a candidate more than anything who can beat president obama. no shocker there. of course, they want a candidate who can beat president obama, but compare that to only 24% say it's a top priority who shares their values. so what that tells sus that voters radio gt now, republican voters are determined to find -- are willing to compromise, pick a candidate who might not agree with them on everything. if they can find someone they think is a formidable candidate against president obama in the nomination. all of the candidates will see a
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all 7,000 pages of the pentagon papers are released, and a new list now names which fruits and vegetables have the most pesticides. time to play reporter roulette. talk to me about some of these new rules at the fbi, what are you learning. >> the civil liberties group sees it as an expansion of the powers that could lead to abuse. at issue is a manual which guides fbi agents searching for indicators of terrorist or criminal activity. a revision of the manual is going to give agents some leeway when they're looking into people, but they don't have any firm evidence against them. specifically they'll be able to pursue information in existing databases, which was previously restricteded. there will be limitations on searching people's trash. they're going to be relaxed. and rules covering the use of surveillance teams will change. right now, a team can only be used once during an assessment.
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the american civil liberties union had a sharp reaction to all of this. the policy council who is a former fbi agent says the fbi is claiming authority to investigate people without opening an investigation or assessment. they are expected sometime soon. . >> has the fbi reacted to that statement that responds from mr. german? >> absolutely. the fbi general council says each change has been carefully looked at and considered against the backdrop of the fool tools. this is fine tuning and not any major change, she says.
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just a number of contentious issues. >> thank you so much. next on "reporter roulette" the complete pentagon papers are declassified and made public. chris lawrence. let's go to you live at the pentagon. does this mean anyone can go to the national archives and read these things? >> yeah, and anyone with a computer can just get on line and read them on line. not expecting a whole lot of anything new in these papers. but now you're going to get the complete account online. anybody can go on there and read them. in this age of wikileaks. it's interesting to sort of look back, you know, it's sort of the grandfather of wikileaks. the pentagon papers. which basically was a report that showed the government was saying one thing about seat national.
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well in all actuality, they were. in july, 1965 when president lyndon johnson already had sent troupes combat troops to vietnam but then a few days later, pretends to consult with his allies and advisers about doing so. >> so you compare it to sort of wikileaks. is there any lesson to be learned from these papers today? >> the primary leaker, one of he took away from it, his biggest regret was that he didn't come forward sooner. and he says to any future whistleblowers out there, he said don't wait until the bombs start falling. that was his message. and it sort of has some sort of parallels with, you know, private bradley manning and the whole wikileaks situation in that ellsburg himself was a service member who served in vietnam. he was considered very brilliant. and now you look today at
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private bradley manning, you know, the government says has caused incalculable damage to relation u.s. relations around the world. and other people say he put out and laid bare a lot of what the u.s. was really doing afbive around the world. >> and now anyone can hop online and read them now. next, do you remember the food plate icon we showed you not too long ago the government unveiled earlier this month. you're supposed to fill half of your plate with fruits and vegetables. now a new report says many of these foods are loaded with pesticides. cue elizabeth cohen here with a lovely array of fruits and veggies. let's go through what we have and who are the worst offenders. by the way, i ate an apple yesterday, am i okay? >> you're fine. you look good, you look good. people have the notion somehow
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there aren't pesticides on what we eat. there are. if you're not buying organic, there's likely pesticides on it. some have more than others, though. the worst offenders are near you. i didn't do that on purpose. >> thanks so much. of the five top offenders in reverse order, we have spinach, peaches, strawberries, celery and apples. they found with apples that 92% of them had two pesticides or more on them. this is according to government data. >> you say unless we're eating organic, what kind of harm comes in pesticides. >> this is where the controversy is. the environmental working group says studies show that pesticides are linked to cancer and they're worried about people. and the government says all these pesticides are well below the limits we set. they're safe and the people who make this produce say it's a ridiculous report, that it's irresponsible. so it's a matter of dosage basically.
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some tell you it's high and might harm you, others may say don't worry about it. >> i rinse off my apple. am i fine? >> it's a good thing to do. there's plenty of things you can do. there's better things. use a lot of water. and throw the outer leaves of a head of lettuce or cabbage. >> so ideally if you can afford it, buy organic. >> if you can, and you want to avoid pesticides, do it 37 but it's expense withive. one thing you can do, one strategy is just buy organic for these five here that are particularly high and not worry about the other ones. so organic and you're kind of fine on this end. is that what you get on your end of the table? >> wasn't that nice of me? these five have the least amount
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>> that's my favorite vegetable. love asparagus. avenue vad does, corn and pineapples. go to cnn.com slash the chart and we have a wonderful blog with all the details. >> deal. dinner. what about the gay girl in damascus blog? the world has been following this, the trials the tribulations? well, we have learned that this lesbian writer turned out to be a total hoax as it says there today. on the blog. this is a 40-year-old married american man who claimhood ejust wanted people to claim what was happening in syria. my conversation with npr's andy carvin is next. as we go to break, let's see what you spent your money on at
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>> beat the heat at the movies this weekend, it looked like you needed some laughs. the top five included pirates, a panda, a cigarette smoking nonkey from "the hangover." but the op two were for the young at heart. "x men" and "super 8" topped them all with $37 million in its debut. there you go, top five. a former transit cop who shot an unarmed man in the back will is out of prison in the middle of the night. johannes mehserle shot a man,
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look what happened next. >> let him go! [ gun firing ] >> did you hear that? it was a single shot from officer mehserle's gun. mehserle said he thought he was firing his taser. he was sentenced to two years in prison. he served nine months due to time served before his trial and time off for good behavior. who's really sharing their thoughts when the conversation is happen on the internet. i've got a story that will have you thinking about that one. an american writer, 40-year-old here, you see him in a broadband interview makes up this whole new identity. he becomes a gay syrian american woman. and people loved his blog. he called it a fake girl in
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damasc damascus. she inspired readers who followed along as she joined these protests against syrian leaders and took personal risks. but it all turned out to be a big lie, but people are furious. i asked what exactly do we know about tom mcmaster. here's what he told me? >> from what we can tell. he's originally from the atlanta area, and he's currently stu studying in scotland, focussing on tybyzantine studies. he was pushing the boundaries between truth and fiction and it just grew and grew and grew. >> you have dissected this guy inside and out. his execution was poor. he said his intentions were
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good. i read part of the may yeea cul the blog. he says i owe apologies for those i hurt and will do all in my power to make it right. i was too successful and caught up in what i was doing. i ignored the consequences of my actions. his intentions really were to ill luol nate the stories of the syrians for a western audience. do you think at all he makes a point, given the fact that syria, let's be honest, not always above the fold. >> well, i think that is an important point. news organizations around the world are struggling to get quality information out of syria. and this seemed to have started as an experiment. and in some ways he ended up in a very lucky situation, from his point of view that syria suddenly found itself in the middle of the rebellion. so he upped the anteand created
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the blog around this character. it brought a lot of people at risk, because there are protesters all over the country, especially members of the local gay community who spent the last week very, very scared that this was some sort of intelligence op that could have gotten them killed. >> another reason people were so upset about this story, they were worried about amina because it said she had been arrested by security agents. let's play "jeopardy." i'll take things you'll never find in the daly plain. and the case of a lawmaker caught in a compromising position. we'll leave it there for now. wait until you hear about the proverbial scene of the crime.
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the friendly mammals are gray when they're born and gradually become pink as they mature. according to scientist, the rare pink dolphin is under threat in hong kong's busy waters. there are only about 2,500 of them left. pink. huh. well, as if miami heat fans weren't down in the dumps enough today, take a look at this ad. you see that? congratulations miami. not so much. a macy's ad congratulated the heat for winning the finals last night. but here's the rub, if you are following the nba games. the heat did not win. and it was right under a headline that says dallas wins best of the seven series 4-2. ""miami herald"" couch. wolf blitz we are a little tease
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of what's coming up. you are in new hampshire because we're now officially three hours away from the big debate. >> going to be a major debate. how did they screw up like that? how could anybody have predicted that miami -- >> right under where it says with the mavs wins. i don't know. that would never be a mistake you would make or i would make, of course. let's move on. >> we've all make mistakes. that's a blunder. >> anyway, the debate. >> the republican debate, seven candidates will take the stage and we'll see what happens. i'm expecting some fireworks. there's going to be substance obviously issue number one. the economy, jobs, jobs, jobs. no doubt, medicare, there will be some national security issues as well. i'm curious to see how hard these other republicans go on mitt romney who's the front-runner for this republican nomination. we'll see what they say about him. i know all of them are going to be very tough on the president
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of the united states who's not here, but guess what? guess who is here? manchester, new hampshire and will be my guest in the situation room. do you want to guess? >> i don't know. i have no guess for you. politically? >> robert gibbs, the former white house press secretary. he'll be here. h he's coming to represent the obama administration. i'm going to ask him who he fears the most. also very interesting, some of the potential candidates who aren't here, like sarah palin, for example. rick perry, the governor of texas, he thinks there's a 95% chance that rick perry will eventually throw his hat into the ring. we'll see if he does or doesn't. fwu it could get exciting in the weeks and months to come. and what we'll do is cover every step of the way as we always do. >> did you see that -- i think
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it was last week, robert gibbs, the auburn tigers, you had little gibbs was trying to put cam newton's hat on, wouldn't quite fit him. did you see that video? >> it was adorable. he went to auburn. he's an alum. he's not objective when it comes to that issue. >> just curious if his son would be there. we'll look for you in a couple of minutes. the big debate tonight on cnn. for today's installment of political pop, i want to remind just a couple of weeks. >> i do the weiner jokes around here, guys. and really, who is boehner fooling. who am i? i'm serious, brother, just embrace it. >> it's the sounds of tables turning when john boehner got his chance to fire back on the new york congressman with the funny name. don't miss this if you haven't seen it. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.
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luck. this is one of the longer running jokes in washington. it kind of got out in the open. the congressional correspondent dinner, it was the end of march. congressman anthony weiner made some jokes about the way house speaker john boehner pronounces his name. take a listen. >> i do the weiner jokes around here, guys. and really who is boehner fooling? am i anthony waner? i'm serious, brother. just embrace it. >> look at everyone laughing. >> there's andrea mitchell. a bunch of people. you were there, i was there. >> no, i was at the white house. >> you were at the white house, okay. so over the weekend -- and now, the shoe goes on the other foot. commencement speech in ohio, speaker boehner, sort of gets the last laugh. listen to this. >> you know, my name looks like beaner, bonner, boner.
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thank god it's not weiner. >> kind of funny. >> right. that is the horse shoe there, the ohio state university. so it looks like the end of that joke goes to john boehner, pronounced properly. >> boehner 1, weiner 0. so story number two, this massachusetts lawmaker found in a bit of a compromising position at the state legislature's chamber. do describe. >> well, it is just a little bit embarrassing if you think about it. >> just a little bit. >> this happened back in april. it was the house chamber in massachusetts. and the original report was that there was somebody who was caught around 4:00 in the morning engaging in some type of inappropriate behavior, that was a lawmaker, we were told, engaging in inappropriate behavior with a female staffer
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and then all we knew was apparently they had some of their clothes on, or they had clothes and the house speaker launched an investigation. and so the big question was all right, who sit? and this is information that came out later. it was a guy named mark kusak under investigation now, a one-term legislature. >> he looks so young. how old is he? >> 26 years old. no more known about that. i've called him, i have e-mailed him and so on, but it's pretty clear, it started pretty early, 4:00 in the morning, 26 years old. been in the house of representatives there, a little less than six months. >> at least there was no twit pics involved. and as my mother says, nothing good happens at 4:00 in the morning. as i hand things off to wolf bl
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