be over their destiniedestinies. they don't want to be another aid-dependant generation. "cnn newsroom" continues right now with randi kaye. tonight is the night. in a few hours, president obama will deliver a highly anticipated speech detailing withdrawals from afghanistan. let's take a look at the numbers for you. 30,000. that is the number of troops the president is expected to say will leave the region by the end of next year. 10,000 of those troops are expected to return home this year pulling 30,000 out would leave about 70,000 american troops in the region. if you are keeping track, this withdrawal plan is after the surge of 30,000 troops. and it follows a growing impatience with the war in

afghanistan which we have been fighting for ten years now. 74% of americans are in support of some sort of drawdown, and many are in full support, saving a little money on defense spending. when i say a little savings with the drawdown, i do mean just that. in the first year, the afghan withdrawal will save less than $10 billion. that sounds like a lot of money, but consider the cost of the war this year alone. and since the first american troops went into of a dpafghani you and i have spend $443 billion on the war effort. joining me now is general wesley clark. a former nato supreme allied commander. president obama's speech is not like a mission accomplished speech but a small victory

speech, if you want to call it that. do you see an end to the war? >> we have to create our own end game in this. if you go back to the beginning of this, we went there because of bin laden and because omar, the taliban leader would not turn him over. we have got osama bin laden, and taken down most of the leadership in al qaeda. the taliban was never our direct flight but about international terrorism, and the regime that was in afghanistan that repressed women and denied people rights, and so forth it was murderous and an intolerant regime. we have finished the fight. now we have to find the right way out that does not lead to larger bloodshed and greater instability in the region, and in effect, our other objectives and interests in the region. we have to create the end game.

it won't be given to us. it's a matter of using military pou wr, but not soley a function of military power. >> do you think the drawdown is the right move for right now? >> i do. because there are other national security challenges coming. we have got to face our responsibilities elsewhere in asia. we have got to look at our needs at home, and the president has a responsibility of balancing all of that. always the generals will need all the resources that they can foresee possibly required. it's hard when you are in there as a commander to say, no, no, take the troops i don't need them. but we have the best leadership in the world in our armed forces and tremendous support from our soldiers and their families. we'll find a way to cope with this as part of a larger u.s. grand strategy of redeploying some forces out of the region, and working the domestic side and working the other

international security responsibilities, and that's what we have to do. >> the public, general, seems to be all four the drawdown. but do you think that this might send a dangerous message to the taliban and al qaeda in afghanistan that we're leaving, and you guys can do whatever you want? >> they have always known we were leaving. we never brought our families over there. we never established an american city. we never said we will colonyize. we never really sunk our economic teeth into the country. there are trillions of dollars worth of natural resources in there. we have barely begun to consider exploding them, but the chinese and iranians are exploiting the resources under the protection of the deal, and so it was

always true we were leaving. >> we have spent $443 billion on the war in afghanistan, and part of that clearly has been spent on education and overall nation building there. do you think the country is well equipped to continue on the front, or have we set them up in a way to fail because we have built so much, can they even afford the upkeep on this? >> well, that remains in part to be determined. there are training programs under way that there is no doubt that they have made a real impact on the people who participated in them and in some of the provinces. on the other hand, there is deep-seeded hostility due to rationalism and region nullism inside afghanistan that will remain there no matter how much we spend. we will have to find our way through these issues. we will have to also look at the larger geostrategic region. and to the lesser extent, iran.

these are the major players in there. we will not be one of those players 30 or 40 years from now barring some other unexpected event. but what we did show and what the taliban can never forget, if you strike america, we will strike back, we will find justice, and you will not be uneffected by that. there's no sanctuary on the war on terror. we showed that to -- it may have taken ten years, but there is no osama bin laden left out there now. >> general, appreciate you coming on and your insight as always. thank you. cnn is staying on the afghanistan troop drawdown story throughout the day and right up to the president's address to the nation that is scheduled for 8:00 p.m. eastern, and that's 5:00 pacific. can you watch it live right here on cnn. a pilot dodges disaster at new york's jfk airport. a jumbo jet speeding for takeover had to come to a

screeching halt when a egypt plane turned on the run way. this near miss is today's sound affect. >> after a brief inspection at the gate, the flight continued on to germany and arrived safely. the faa is investigating thes s in incident. >> and then the u.s. senate confirmed pennetta in a rare 100-0 vote. the current cia director says he expects to be sworn into his new job sometime next week.

gripping new revelations in the casey anthony murder trial. prosecution says they are looking into the case of a woman that was jailed with caylee antho anthony. information was revealed during a discovery hearing after the jurors left the courtroom. today they heard testimony from a chemist who said he could not be sure a decomposing body was ever in casey anthony's trunk. and then power crews out in force in chicago today. 300,000 commonwealth edison customers were left in the dark. it could take days to fully restore the electricity. storms stranded passengers at chicago airports. 350 flights were cancelled at o'hare and more cancelled at midway with two-hour depar chur

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the president remains in saudi arabia where he is being treated for wounds. we are joined with much more on this. muhammad, what is the latest you have on the escape? all right. we lost muhammad there in abu dhabi. let's look at top stories we're following here in the news room. the four veteran astronauts that will man "atlantis" spoke at a news conference today at the space center in florida. the 30-year shuttle program will end following their flight set on launch on july 8th which you can watch live here on cnn. ferguson talked about his experience preparing for the mission. >> we have had a short training

period, nine months, and four people. the number of tasks aboard the shuttle have not changed because there are four people. we have been enormously business, and although we have tried to pause and think of good ways to reflect and remember those moments, i don't think the full magnitude of the moment will hit us until the wheels have stopped on the run way. fashion designer goes to trial today in paris. he is accused much making anti-semitic comments against three people. he said he cannot remember making comments, but he faces six months in jail and fined in convicted. the "uss carl vincent" is in talks to host the first ncaa

game on the aircraft carrier. the plan calls for the spaurtens to play the university of carolina on veteran's day, november 11th. espn will televise the game if it pans out. and then the evacuation of 12,000 people because of expected flooding, and so stay tuned for severe weather and flooding updates, of course. and now let's take you back to abu dhabi. what is the latest that you have on the escape? >> randi, we heard from a senior security official in yemen that this prison escape happened around 8:00 a.m. this morning. the dozens of al qaeda -- suspected al qaeda militants escaped from the prison. we just heard a few minutes ago that three of the escaped

prisoners have been killed by the security forces and two of them have been arrested. >> what do we know exactly, if anything at all, about the escaped al qaeda members? >> randi, not a lot at this point. we know there is two prisons in this town. this prison where it happened was the central security prison. the political security prison is in another part of the city and that's where more of the high-level al qaeda members would have been kept if there were high-level al qaeda prisoners. still a lot of questions to be asked. this news hit quite quickly this morning and there was a lot of concern in the town. whenever there is news in yemen that there has been a prison escape, there is asuspicions arise if al qaeda is linked to it. it raised the level of concern in that country.

>> there has been a lot of talk about the visit to yemen by the secretary of middle eastern affairs secretary. what is the purpose behind the visit? >> to meet with officials. yemen is experiencing severe turmoil right now, and chaos. you have an anti-government protest movement going on. the president of the country was injured in an assassination attempt a few weeks ago, and there is a power vacuum going on in yemen, strife and clashes and lots of different types of fighting in different parts of the country. the official is there to meet with the vice president and the foreign minister to see what the u.s. can do to help the transition process in the country because it's okay yachtic there, and there is no much about yemen becoming a failed state because al qaeda uses it as a base, even though it comprises of 700 members by

most estimates, they have been able to launch spectacular attacks against the west and the u.s. in the past few years. it's a very sophisticated operation run from yemen, and if there is political turmoil going on there, will al qaeda be able to exploit it. the u.s. trying to make sure that that country -- that things come together and the government starts to function once more. >> thank you, muhammad. you may have heard about the financial crisis in greece, and be honest, you may not think it's important, right? wrong. in two minutes, we break down what it's doing to your money. as a manager, my team counts on me to stay focused.

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greece may be a country of timeless charm, but they are struggling to find a way to repay its huge debts. the sector is heavily unionized. they are leasing valuable ports and roads to other countries and there is still the real possibility that greece will default on its debt. for more on greece's problems and what it means for us, the one and only richard quest joins me from london. we can catch you anchoring on cnn international, but we're glad you are with us today. if you would break down what is happening in greece and why it matters for all of us. >> let's start with exactedly what is happening in grease and the shear amount of debt that that country currently has.

it's vast. greece has more than 100% of what we call debt to gdp, more than $300 billion worth of debt. and quite simply has not been able to pay its bills. the european have come to the rescue. but, and this has been the crux of the problem in many cases, greece has not managed to turn around its economy and will need more bailout. look at the numbers. it will show you clearly. greek unemployment is somewhere around 16%. that is the official figure. but talk to anybody in greece and they will say they expect to be higher. 40% rise. 20% unemployment. and 10% of the jobs in the public sector already gone. 20% will go over the next three years. and now show you why greece matters, because this is really the core of the problem. a new government, a vote of

confidence and moral measures, randi, this is why greece matters. it's the second bailout for greece. factor that in, and you have a beautiful country with wonderful history, and a terrible economy. >> well, i think all of what you said is enough to send schiffers down the spine of anybody in america. >> i suppose i was being apocalyptic, let's look at the difference between the u.s. and greece. the u.s. economy, the largest in the world as a debt to gdp ratio at about 75%, and it may be higher if you take everything in

total. and greece's economy is 27th, with a gdp to debt at 125%. it issues debt in its own greenback dollars. it's still the favorite place to vest in the world, america, because of the trillions and trillions of dollars worth of the size of the economy. even being ma chiefious, though, along to raise the debt ceiling along with the budget deficit of 9% and a trillion dollars, that should give american policy makers more than enough ind indigestion when they look at greece. >> who is buying this stuff? what kind of privatization --

>> most countries now have flubbed up airports in some form. they need to raise up to $50 billion in privatization funds. greece now embarked on a massive privatization plan. >> you explained it like nobody else can. thank you and great to see you. a deadly risk to young athletes. next, what can happen when a teen with a head injury returns to the game too soon?

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welcome back. we have been hearing a lot lately about concussions and pro athletes. but now a new study that says athletes can suffer death if they return too soon. dr. sanjay gupta has more on the risks. >> it's a tragedy to think about the young athletes dying when playing sports. the numbers have not changed much despite an increase in the

awareness of concussions. while the first concussion could be bad, it second concussion could be worst. the brain as a fluid medium within the skull bouncing back and forth. you can develop swelling and that is what is ending in death. somebody having a concussion is a vague notion for a lot of people. you don't have to be knocked out to have a concussion. the symptoms could be vague. nausea and vomited, and balance and vision and confusion problems. they may ask a football player, do you know who you played? what was the score in did you win or lose? if they cannot answer these types of questions or if there is doubt the player needs to sit it out. protective gear. an area of big concern.

people talked about better helmets to help protect against these injuries. mouth guards could decrease the transition of force from the face to the brain. they talked about genetic testing who find out who is most at risk for developing a concussion. so this year you will see a lot of changes, especially at the professional level. sideline exams to make sure those that have a concussion are able to sit out, and the most dangerous aspects of the game moving the kickoff line further forward. that's what is happening in youth sports, but the culture coming from professional sports. back to you. >> thank you, sanjay. tom hanks visited the set of a spanish network. you have to stick around to see what he did. that is next. what is that? it's you! it's me?

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president obama will deliver a nationally televised speech tonight on u.s. troop withdrawals in afghanistan. he is expected to outline his plan to bring 10,000 troops home this year, and then 100,000 are now serving. top brass pushed for smaller drawdown numbers. and then gates suggested support troops and not combat troops. we will bring you president obama's speech at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. and then air samples showed

the presence of chloroform. that's the testimony the jury heard this morning. the chemist did go on to say that the components indicated a decomposing body was in the trunk. casey anthony pleaded not guilty of killing her 2-year-old daughter, caylee, in 2008. it was an emotional first day at wimbledon for tennis sensation, serena williams. after having a life-threatening blood clot on her lung, she returned with big serves that got her a victory. she was overcome with emotion. you can see it there. she continued to cry. she left the court, but in championship fashion she waved to all of her supporting fans. tom hanks went way off script when he appeared on univision to pitch his comedy.

he made his visit by helping them deliver the weather, with flare, let's say. yeah, i don't know if they practiced that one, but maybe there was a little bunny hop going on. but the moves are interesting. oh, yeah, you go, tom. go! he may have a future of "dancing with the stars." he visited the cnn set this morning and you can catch his interview on cnn.com. talk about taking a wrong turn. a penguin make as rare journey of a lifetime swimming to the shores of a new seasoned base. they will not transport the visitor back home. they fear that it could spread warm water diseases to the penguin's back home.

he is mistaking the wet sand for snow. however, it appears healthy and well fed. the first penguin sighting there in 44 years. and then a distinction on the level of dinosaurs. we are to blame. we'll explain next.

leading marine experts have a warning. one that will transform our oceans and as a result our lives forever. that's the finding of 27 leading marine researchers. what is more frightening, scientists say we are on track for the worst case scenario. we're talking about mass extension of marine life we have never seen before in human history. a perfect storm of our oceans becoming warmer and over wishing and pollution is causing a disturbing rapid decline like oysters polar bears, and penguins and sharks and other fish. and we have our guest to give us a better understand of this. we talked about some of the findings of the study. you were not part of it. what would you say is most

disturbing to you about it? >> already, as you know, a lot of my life is spent in exploration of the oceans, and i returned from the arctic with cnn two months ago looking at some of these issues. what i find most striking about the report is that for many of us in the ocean conservation community, it's actually not really news. we have been hearing about ocean afit fau indication and warming water temperatures, and collapsing ecosystems, and fisheries collapsing, and 90% of the ocean fish species being gone. for several years we have heard about this. this report is a reminder and urgent call for us to take action. >> if we don't take ak hundred and this continues, what will our oceans look like? >> that's the scary part. we're already seeing this. i know that a lot of folks, they spend summer times down on the

beaches of florida and new england, and ten or 20 years ago the amounts of red tide and animal blooms were jellyfish, and there are a lot more jellyfish taking over. you will see a decline in whales and fish and coral reefs and all the things we see at seaworld and programs like finding nemo. >> what does this say? >> one is caused by the aub soeshtion of co2 into the oceans. the oceans absorbed more asittic, and all the animals that make shelves can no longer do so. it talks about a decline in fisheries and warming oceans as well as pollution. all of these problems are very

severe. that's the bad news. the good news is that we know what the solutions are. fisheries are reformed and looking at the reduction of carbon and how we can reduce solution loads into the ocean, and -- >> this is all part of what makes it aacidic. >> from agriculture pollution. and over fishing. >> so what can we do? >> well, that's the thing. we know what the problems are and we know what the solutions are and that's the good news. the report calls for park systems in the united states. we already have some, but the enhancement of those, and marine parks around the world. refisheries reform and reduction of carbon. if we are going to avert a total

whole scale collapse of ocean systems, and the ocean is the life support system of the world. we cannot survive without them. >> and we are talking about the penguin that took a wrong turn. he is adorable. how concerned should we be? this guy ended up on a beach in new zealand. they have not seen a guy like this in 44 years? >> animals don't have gps. >> they need it. >> clearly they do. people get confused and lost, and it can happen to marine mammals as well. a year ago there was a humpback wha whale swimming up a river in california. i hope it works out. >> i thought it was built in nature they know where they are going? >> yeah, it is. in the ocean that surrounds the

continent, there are complex currents and temperatures and different food, you know, and if you are hungry, and you have not eaten it's easy to get confused. and we are concerned with the changing currents from what is happening in the poles, so it's possible the currents are shifting and confusing animals from their routes to maybe get sent off into the wrong direction. >> is that disturbing. i know you are not a penguin expert, but could they find his way back? >> it's unlikely. a very long way away. a few thousand miles. he's in a completely unfamiliar environment, and he's eating wet sand. it's probably unlikely he will find his way back to antarctica. >> can we send you there to rescue him? >> new zealand is a fabulous place, and i would love to go but i don't know what we can do

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45 minutes past the hour. first lady, michelle obama, paid tribute to victims after a visit to south africa. she spoke to young women that played a key role in the church. she drew parallels with the u.s. civil rights movement saying both should inspire african women to overcome the problems of today. arizona sheriff blaming mexican smug lurz for starting two wildfires that is burning across the state. the monument fire was man caused. he says the so-called monument fire started in an area near the mexican border. arizona senator, john mccain, drew criticism for suggesting fires were started by illegal immigrants. police in northern ireland are warning rioting in belfast

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innovation. well, today's big i is about an app harnessing america's vast army of iphone users. enlisting them to complete various gigs when they're out and about to earn extra cash. cnn money's loaurie segal reports. gigwalk is a service designed to connect job seekers with gigs. usually simple texts you need to be physically present to complete. in any given area there are a number of gigs anyone with an iphone can compete to earn a couple dollars. they range from checking out a restaurant or testing out an app. for example, take a photo of his restaurant, answer a couple questions and earn 4 bucks. it's the brain child of three x ex-yahoo! employees. tom bohan is a director at menu

pages.com, a gigwalk client. >> the restaurant menu can get stale. menus change. a part of the problem we identified from the get-go was how do we keep our menu content as up to date as possible. >> reporter: enter gigwalk. >> we figured this might be a good opportunity for us to test out, let's see if we can use gigwalk to go out and gelt updated menu content for us. >> reporter: in the past the company hired manual collectors to gather updated restaurant information. recently the site started posting opportunities on gigwalk, allowing anyone with an iphone and account to complete the tasks. >> once we started to utilize gigwalk it was like tapping into an instant mobile workforce. it's been performed at a much quicker rate than the way we were doing it previously with the manual collectors. and not that much more expensive of a cost to us. >> reporter: payouts for gigs range from $3 to $90. 40,000 users have signed up in nine cities where gigwalks are live. plans are to roll it out in 30

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time now for cnn political update. cnn's joe johns joins me from the political desk in washington. hi there, joe. speaker boehner says american people are, quote, a bit weary about the war in afghanistan. what more do you have on that? >> hearing a lot of that, randi. president obama is hearing it from all sides too in advance of his big speech on afghanistan. we've already heard from a lot of democrats who say they want a big reduction of the boots on the ground. now on the other side of the aisle the republican speaker of the house, john boehner of ohio, weighing in too, urging the president to listen to his commanders and warning that the white house needs to avoid what you might call a dramatic reduction in forces. listen. >> clearly the success that general petraeus outlined is, in fact, a success. we're getting there. but we've got an awful lot invested here.

and i'm concerned about any precipitous withdrawal of our troops that would jeopardyize the success that we've made. >> meanwhile, randi, a former house speaker and current republican presidential candidate newt gingrich is telling reporters in atlanta that reports of the demise of his campaign are greatly exaggerated. he cites some pretty good evidence, pointing out that in the last presidential cycle around this time everybody thought hillary clinton was going to be the nominee on the democratic side. on the republican side, john mccain was out of money. essentially had been written off by the press. two top fundraisers for gingrich just quit the campaign, adding their names to a bunch of others who recently went out the door. gingrich dismisses the folks who quit as consultants. newly announced presidential candidate jon huntsman is moving quickly to try to get some face time with potential republican donors in the all-important

primary state of south carolina. he's scheduled a closed-door meeting with some of the money people there, a couple of them, as we get closer and closer to that june 30th fundraising deadline for the campaigns. huntsman actually made an early trip to south carolina in may right after he stepped down as president obama's ambassador to china. randi? >> all right, joe, thank you very much. your next update from the best political team on television is just an hour away. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight is the night. in just a few hours, president obama will deliver a highly anticipated speech detailing troop withdrawals from afghanistan. how many are we talking about? well, take a look at the numbers here. 30,000 troops. that's the number of troops the president is expected to say will leave the region by the end of next year. 10,000 of those troops are expected to return home this year, pulling 30,000 out would leave about 70,000 american troops in the region. now, if you're keeping track,

this withdrawal plan comes 18 months after the president announced a troop surge in afghanistan of 30,000 troops. it also follows a growing impatience with the war in afghanistan, which we have been fighting for ten years now. our cnn polling shows 74% of americans are in support of some sort of drawdown. and i'll venture to guess that many are also in full support of saving a little money on defense spending. but when i say a little savings with that drawdown, i do mean exactly that. in the first year the afghan withdrawal will save less than $10 billion. that sounds like a lot of money, i'm sure. but consider the costs of the war. this year alone we're talking about $118 billion. and since the first american troops went into afghanistan, you and i, american taxpayers, have spent about $443 billion on the war effort. let me say that again. $443 billion on the war effort. cnn's senior political analyst gloria borger joins me now from

washington. glo gloria, you wrote a fantastic column on cnn.com about this. president obama's speech tonight, as you said, is not going to be a mission accomplished type speech but more of a small victory speech. but is it really possible, gloria, for obama to claim success in afghanistan? >> well, if you talk to senior white house advisers, as i've done, the answer is yes. they point back to the speech he gave at west point in december 2009. when he announced the surge of 30,000 troops. and at that point he said, we have a few goals. one is to diminish al qaeda. okay. we all know that osama bin laden is dead. the second is to reverse the momentum of the taliban. they believe that they have done that. and the third is to build up the afghan security forces, which they believe they have done. so while they're not going to hang out that banner, they are going to say the surge has achieved what it set out to do. and that's why you can begin withdrawing troops. i think the question remains

about what you do with those other 70,000 troops. and i'm told that they say as in the west point speech, they're going to be withdrawn by 2014. but they are going to say, this is a steady president who, ironically, randi, has become the national security president. which nobody expected when republicans were campaigning against him as the community organizer, right? >> but if president obama is the national security president, what does that make the gop? >> right. well, this is what's -- this is what's interesting. i'm not sure whether this shift in politics is seismic or not yet. but if you watched our republican debate, you saw a lot of those republican candidates sounding a lot more like ron paul, who is clearly an isolationist. people want to get out of afghanistan. there's a little bit of an unsettled quality to republicans on foreign policy right now. and inside the white house, they

say, okay, contrast that unsettled feeling among republican presidential candidates right now, as well as republicans in the congress, with, again, they call the steady hand of barack obama who says this is what he wants to do, and then he does it. so, you know, it's interesting because democrats have always been called soft on national security. and in this instance, it's a democratic president who had a buildup and, of course, took on his own party. and took on some republicans who are very, very conscious of the extreme costs of this war as you just pointed out a moment ago. >> so how much of this afghanistan decision do you think, though, is really about money? >> well, a lot of it. a lot of it is about money. this is a president who understands very clearly that he's up for re-election. he's got unemployment over 9%. he's got a debt of, you know,

$13 trillion plus that the american public is sick of this war as our polls show. they want to spend money at home. they don't want to spend money abroad. so i think you'd be foolish to say that a lot of this isn't driven by economics. however, the white house will also tell you that it's driven by the fact that some of the goals have been achieved. and, again, you know, you can't sort of overstate the achievements. because that would be wrong and that would be untrue as was the mission accomplished banner. but they believe that they can now say that they did what they set out to do and they can start -- they can start leaving without claiming victory, but claiming some degree of success. >> right. that they did something right. all right. gloria borger, thank you. >> exactly. >> thank you. as i mentioned, gloria wrote a great column on president obama. you can check it out on cnn.com/opinion. cnn is staying on the afghanistan troop drawdown story

throughout the day and right up to the president's address to the nation. it is scheduled for 8:00 p.m. eastern, 5:00 pacific. you can watch it live right here on cnn. a pilot dodges disaster at new york's jfk airport. it left tons of jumbo jets speeding for takeoff had to come to a screeching halt when an egypt air flight turned right on to the runway. at takeoff speeds, the pilot would have had just seconds to react. this near miss is today's sound effect. >> american 158 heavy. you are ready to go? >> whoa, whoa. >> egypt air 680 heavy. >> cancel takeoff. cancel takeoff plane. >> all traffic is stopped right now. >> after a brief inspection at the gate the lufthansa flight continued. the faa is investigating.

thousands of residents of minot, north dakota, are racing for higher fwround today. they are being told to evacuate from record flooding from the already swollen river. a river flows straight through the city and officials fear it will breakthrough levees. fire is the story in other parts of the u.s. crews are battling a stubborn blaze. the so-called wallow fire is one of 53 wildfires burning in 12 states from alaska to florida. the blaze has scorched 1.4 million acres. a daring, bloody prison escape unfolded for several hours in southern yemen today. dozens of suspected al qaeda terrorists were among those who were freed when armed militants attacked the prison. they are linked to plots to kill americans over the past two years. yemen tv says three escapees were killed. it is the latest example that al qaeda may be trying to fill yemen's political vacuum created by months of political unrest. the state department says it has

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chloroform gasoline, casey's shoes and caylee's hair. the defense for casey anthony honed in on those key things today that could help or hurt their case. a chemistry professor found traces of chloroform, gasoline and other chemicals in anthony's car trunk. some of those chemicals are linked to a decomposing body. but the chemist said the levels were low and he could not determine whether caylee's body was inside her mother's trunk. so let's bring in richard herman, who is a criminal defense attorney and knows about all this stuff. he's been following this trial closely, and he joins me now. richard, this chemist was the one who took the air samples from casey anthony's trunk. the prosecution's expert used those same air samples, but testified earlier in the trial that there were shockingly high levels of chloroform. those were his words. so how do you think the jurors will make sense of all this?

>> you know, randi, the defense is trying any which way they can to discredit the prosecution forensics experts. this gentleman gave testimony completely contrary to one of his mentors and associates, dr. vass. therefore, a jury is left with, who do i believe? the prosecution put on one expert with outstanding credentials. the defense put on another expert with outstanding credentials. who do i go with? who am i persuaded by? the judge will instruct these jurors, randi, they do not have to believe any expert testimony. they can base it on their own analysis of the case. experts are not definitive. i don't know where it's going to go. for the prosecution, you know, you're going to find one way. the defense, another way. that's what these cases come down to. >> it feels like information overload for those jurors. but the defense also called an fbi geologist who found that the soil on casey anthony's shoes and trunk did not match the soil

where the little girl's body was found. but then she said this. listen. >> you can walk across the scene and not have any soil transferred on to the shoes. in which case when we do an examination, i won't see any soil and will not be able to connect you to the scene. you can also walk through the scene and have soil transfer, which then later falls off. >> richard, it seems to me that the defense's own expert is hurting their case a bit here. what do you think? >> well, randi, you know, it's all about preparation. in law, like in life, preparation is the key to success. and here it really shows that baez is deficient in preparing these experts to testify. you've got to sit with them. you've got to rehearse with them. you have to give them sample direct and sample cross-examination questions so they're prepared. there really does not appear to be preparation here in the examination of these defense experts. >> another forensic expert, richard, today testified about caylee's hair. what was the defense trying to

prove there? >> the whole defense is, look, she was never in the car. and all the findings of a decomposing body in the car are false. remember, there was one strand of hair among all the strands of hair found in the trunk and inside the car, that had some sort of decomposition death ring around it. there are other explanations for that death ring. i think the defense has done a credible job on debunking that theory. but, again, that's the theory of the defense. that body was never in the trunk decomposing. yet, despite the smell that overwhelmingly was testified by many prosecution witnesses. >> there is a great debate over whether or not casey anthony should take the stand. at this point in the trial, what do you think? would it help or hurt? >> randi, i've been saying this so early on and i keep saying it. there is no way she can -- look, he can't prepare his experts to testify. he doesn't know where they're going. if he puts her on the stand, i

guarantee you this jury, any juror that is hanging, maybe not sure, maybe want to hang the jury on the forensics and on the first-degree murder, they will be persuaded to convict her. because she will not be believable. she will antagonize this jury. she will infur rate the jury. and they will come back and convict her of murder and they will convict her and give her the death penalty. it is so overwhelming that she cannot and must not testify. the best the defense can do here is a hung jury, two or three jurors may be holding out. there's no way they can get an acquittal on the first-degree murder. this will ruin her chances of a hung jury if she gets on that stand. >> all right. i think we're pretty clear on where you stand on that, richard. i will not ask you again. i promise. all right. >> you can ask me. >> thanks for coming on. we'll see you again tomorrow. four sterilization in a bid to improve society. we're not talking about nazi germany. it was widespread right here in

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severe weather expert chad myers is joining me now. chad, what's going on with the flooding in north dakota and why are 12,000 people being forced from their homes? >> in fact, what's going on right now, the sirens, the tornado sirens, are being sounded in minot, not for a tornado, but because that means the people that are in

evacuation zones that were supposed to be out by 6:00 tonight, have to be out now. let me take you to minot, north dakota. we'll take you right to the saurus river. it comes through the middle of town through here, coming in from the west and going down toward the south and east. everywhere that is blue is the evacuation zone. 12,000 people live inside that zone. levees are not going to hold. this river is going to be way above its banks. this river is going to be in places that it hasn't seen since 1881. you have to realize the difference in the population between where we are right now and what was happening in 1881. this is a significantly bigger event for minot, north dakota. in fact, the record stage was here. they don't even know how much higher it's going to go than the record. the line is still going up. that's five days from now. i want to do something else. you have to understand these people, if you're out there, you have to take care of your pets as well. make sure the elderly can get out. you don't think about that. if the elderly can't leave

because they didn't plan on it, this could be a big situation for people. can't leave anyone behind. can't leave their pets behind, either. now to a story that evokes memories of nazi, germany. the forced sterilization of people in a bid to rid society of undesirable characteristic. it may come as a surprise, but a sterilization policy known as eugenics existed in this country for years. 33 states had a eugenics program in the 1900s. most ended after world war ii. north carolina's program ran until 1974. about 7,600 people in north carolina were sterilized. many of them forcefully. of those, about 3,000 are alive today. north carolina is now trying to determine how to make amends for its sterilization program at a hearing today in raleigh where victims had a chance to tell their stories. joining us now from raleigh, delores marks whose mother was a

victim of the sterilization program. darren, let me begin with you. why this hearing today and what are the chances that north carolina will make amends? >> well, the state has been looking at compensating the nearly 3,000 living victims for a while now. and the state is getting serious about it. unfortunately, north carolina is one of the rare states that actually increased the number of forced sterilizations after world war ii. so where other states kind of stopped sterilizing people and learned the lessons from nazi germany, north carolina didn't. 77% of those sterilized occurred after world war ii. with so many living victims, it's about time that we compensated those people. >> these were people, just so i understand, daren, these were people who the state deemed, what, mentally unfit? >> the state deemed unfit, unworthy to reproduce. and what they would do is they would categorize them in a

category called feebleminded. that was just a catch-all phrase, a way to make sure that some people didn't reproduce. a way to ensure that we reduced welfare rolls. basically it was a way to kind of get people that they didn't want to have reproduce not in the general population anymore. >> delores, i'd like to bring you in here to the conversation. i know that you're waiting and hoping for amends related to your mother's sterilization. your mother's case. can you tell me what this would mean to you if the state did try and make this right? >> well, it has gone on entirely too long. and my sisters and i, we've been working on this. and for the living victims, it would mean quite a bit of not only health care, but help for them. for us, it would make us feel much better. it would amend something that

was done to my mother years ago. even though she's not alive today. but it would help us to go on. because we had to put our lives on hold to take care of what cherry hospital sent back home to us. >> what were the circumstances, just very briefly, delores, of what happened to your mom? why was she sterilized? >> after having my brother, she had post partum syndrome. that's what it's called today. she was sent to ghostboro hospital. and she was put on very strong medications. she was kept there for 12 years. she worked in that hospital. we are assuming that the medicine was -- you know, they would free up the medicine in order for her to work. then in 1965 she was almost 40 years old. they put her on one medication, sterilized her and sent her

home. and she did well. >> daren, this sounds like nazi germany, does it not? >> it comes from the same place. the concept of negative eugenics. nazi germany certainly took it further than north carolina did. north carolina is not necessarily unique. many other states as you mentioned before did sterilize many people. it just so happens that we have a lot of living vikt ctimvictim. it's also important to remember this is not so long ago history. this program lasted until the '70s, at least. so there's many living victims as a result of the fact that we were sterilizing people for a long time. it wasn't that long ago when this happened. >> so do you think we've learned anything from this, daren? what lessons are to be learned from something so horrific in our own country's history, forced sterilization?

>> that's the million dollar question. certainly, we learned don't forcibly sterilize people. i think most importantly we want to learn the lesson that the idea of pushing the greater good at the expense of fundamental rights is not a good idea. we have to be very careful. and what happened here was the state, through the use of force, physically invaded the bodies of innocent people and took away their most basic fundamental right. and that never should happen. never should happen again. >> delores, i know you said your mother is no longer alive today. but what would she think of this now that the state is trying to hopefully make this right? >> i think she would be happy about what the state is doing. but i think she would be very upset as to what they did to her. >> and can you ever forgive what's happened here to so many people in north carolina and across the country, delores? >> of course. i can forgive.

you know, because i believe there's a god. and i can forgive. what will make my family feel better is that we continue to help with the fight. my mother's gone, but she still lives through us. and we will continue to fight this to see that justice is done not only for our family, but for all of the families, all -- over 7,000 or more. >> delores marks and daren bakst, thank you so much both of you for coming on this show today and helping us shed some light on what's happened to so many of our own people here in this country all those years ago. we wish you the best of luck with getting some compensation. first lady michelle obama in south africa today. why she's talking about u.s. civil rights, next.

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president obama will deliver a nationally televised speech tonight on u.s. troop withdrawals in afghanistan. he's expected to outline his plan to bring home 10,000 troops this year, another 20,000 in 2012. about 100,000 in all are now serving. initial recommendations from top brass pushed for smaller drawdown numbers and defense secretary robert gates suggested a withdrawal of support troops only, not combat troops. cnn will cover the president's speech live at 8:00 p.m. eastern. countdown is under way in cape canaveral, florida, as the "atlantis" crew prepares for the final launch in july. the crew rehearsed practice landings in morning for the 12-day mission where they'll deliver vital supplies to the international space station. reflecting on the significance of this final space mission, commander chris ferguson had this to say. >> i don't think that the full magnitude of the moment will really hit us until the wheels have stopped on the runway. i'm not sure words will really be able to capture for the crew

and for the entire shuttle workforce, you know, just how much the shuttle program has meant to us for the last 30 years. >> the "atlantis" crew of four, three men and one woman, will continue their training and preparations for the final space flight. launch is set for july 8th. audio recording capture add close call at jfk airport where a lufthansa jumbo jet nearly collided with an egypt air flight when it veered into its runway. listen to this. >> american 158 heavy. you are ready to go. >> whoa, whoa. hold up. >> e kwipt air 986 heavy. >> cancel takeoff. cancel takeoff plans. >> lufthansa 411 heavy is rejecting takeoff. >> all traffic is stopped right now. >> the faa now investigating that incident. former vice president al gore taking a shot at president obama for not defending the science of global warming. gore wrote in a "rolling stone" article that president obama has

not made use of the bully pulpit to make the case on climate change. gore did acknowledge the political difficulty on the issue and says obama can expect a tough re-election. we've got some incredible video of a fan in fenway park who catches a foul ball with his beer cup. yes, that is right. with his beer cup. take a look here. nick hunley hit a foul ball in the top of the sixth. there it is. as the ball came barreling toward the crowd it leaps up and landed right in that guy's cup. man standing, saluting as you see there. takes a drink from the beer while the ball is still in the cup. here it is one more time. oh, yeah. we recently learned the fan is actually a former professional hockey player. nice catch. all right. now a daring prison break in gemmen. alleged al qaeda members linked to plots to kill americans. we'll have details for you on this right after the break.

another blow to yemen. dozens of suspected al qaeda militants escaped today from prison. here to talk to us is the only and only michael holmes. >> good to see you. >> good to see you as well. >> in glasses. >> i can see you better in my glasses. >> i told you to wear them. >> i know you have. contacts weren't working for me today. let's get back to the yemen

story. >> government officials are tells us there's no actual official confirmation yet. we're told that dozens of al qaeda militants got out of this jail in a place called mukalla in the south of the country. it really does show, yet again, that lawless part of yemen where we said there is no government control, really. that al qaeda is more and more emboldened to do such things. these guys apparently jumped the guards, took their weapons, got out through a tunnel. at the same time as that happened there was an external attack launched as well with rpgs and small arms fire. a few people hurt. a sort of brazen thing. >> what does this say about the whole power vacuum in al qaeda there? sfwl it says al qaeda, as we always feared with this, when ail abdullah saleh, yemen is the center for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. speaking of power vacuum, the

government is saying that saleh will return. he's in saudi arabia for burns treatment recovery from the bomb blast. they're saying he's going to come back on friday. the opposition doesn't buy it. we'll see if he's got the nerve. >> even if he does come back, we'll see if anything changes. >> the government saying he'll have a warm reception. i'm not so sure. the world food crisis now appears to be the key focus of the g-20. >> yeah. g-20 agriculture ministers are meeting in france discussing this. it's a very serious thing. the president of the world bank, in fact, says that volatile food prices is in his words the single greatest threat that developing nations are facing. the world bank says that last year rising food prices led to an estimated 44 more people in the world living in poverty because of the cost of food. there's already a billion people around the world said to go to bed hungry ever night. there's also been warnings by the french agriculture minister that if they don't work something out at the g-22 to try

to curb these rising food prass you could see food riots again which we have seen in other parts of the world. >> is this just a bunch of really smart people, they all come into this room and try to figure out how they're going to solve the world's food crisis? >> a lot of people say that about the g-20. you get a lot of people talking. a lot of sense of urgency there. they're saying there needs to be tighter regulation of the commodity market to stop these food spikes. wheat is up 50% over the last year. corn has doubled. that's a lot when you're talking about places that can't afford it. >> the story that i can't stop talking about today is this wayward penguin. >> the march -- the swim of the penguin, shall we call it. >> a really long swim, right? this emperer penguin. >> emperor penguin, they don't normally get to where you see there on the map. took a wrong turn in the ice

fl floes and ended up in new zealand, which is very attractive but not normally the home. there he is. three foot tall, by the way. they're not tiny. they can get to be four feet tall. >> he's all by himself. sfl yeah. >> he might be confused because of something that's happening with the currents. >> i missed that. the experts down there are saying he probably just took a wrong turn. people are saying, get him back. let's take him home to antarctica, to the very -- to the communities that they have down there. and the experts say, actually, no. they're just going to let nature take its course. he got here on his own. if he wants to go back, that's fine. they don't want to take him back. one of the reasons, on his journey through the warmer waters he might have picked up a bug or two and take that back to the colonies. they're going to let nature take its course. >> i feel bad for him. he's eating wet sand. he's confused.

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welcome back. greece may be a country of timeless charm. but they are struggling to find a way to repay its huge debts. the state sector is heavily unionized. companies face tax hike. their leasing valuable ports and roads to other countries. and there is still the real possibility that greece will default on its debt. so why does greece matter to the rest of us? let's start with exactly what's happening and the sheer amount of debt the country has. it is vast. they are more than 100% of what is called debt to gdp. this is more than $300 billion worth of debt which is a lot for a small country. and, simply, they've been unable to pay their bills or turn around their economy. why does it matter, you ask? well, it's causing uncertainty in the euro zone and concern over the euro. it's led to two bailouts for greece since 2010. some fear what's happening there could happen here. earlier today i asked richard quest, anchor of "quest means

business" if it ever could. >> i suppose if i was being mischee vous and apock litic, the answer is yes. but the reality is no. let's look at the differences between the u.s. and greece, for example. the u.s. economy, the largest in the world, has a debt to gdp ratio of about 75%. it might be a bit higher than that. may be up to 90% of the economy if you take everything in total. greece's economy is 27th with a debt to gdp of 125%. but the u.s. is the world's reserve currency. it issues debt in its own greenback dollars. it is still the favorite place to invest in the world because of the trillions and trillions of dollars worth of size of the economy. if i'm being mischee vees you, though, i would say the failure to raise the debt ceiling along

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florida governor rick scott signed an executive order in march that would require random drug testing of many current state employees as well as those applying for government jobs. the order would make current employees and agencies that answer to the governor subject to random screening at least quarterly. the aclu of florida filed a federal suit seeking to block the order, arguing that at least part of the order is unconstitutional. while the case is pending, governor scott has directed his staff to suspend imp lemation, allowing testing to move ahead only in the department of corrections. now testing federal employees is not a new issue. it started under president reagan, actually, whose executive order required that federal employees be drug free whether or not they're on the job. in 1988 congress passed the drug free workplace act. and since then, states have increasingly been adopting

similar requirements for employee drug testing. scott said he plans to move forward with implementing the order once the lawsuit has been resolved. our question today for the stream team is this. should state workers be drug tested? lisa blum is with us today with attorney and author of "think: straight talk for women to stay smart in a dumbed down world." mark di bernardo and will cain. mark, i'd like to start with you. if you were advising the state of florida, would you recommend that they try to randomly test employees? >> no. i think while i concur with governor scott's policy and his intentions, i understand what he's trying to get at, i think that's a tactical retreat that's entirely appropriate. fourth amendment is applicable. supreme court decisions which have upheld drug testing in the public sector were limited to testing of employees in safety

sensitive positions. now, i will say testing on a preemployment basis, that's a different issue. i would like to see in the public sector preemployment drug testing and for florida to go forward on that. >> lisa, the constitution does not prohibit drug testing. so can governor scott legally drug test all of the agencies that answer to him? >> the constitution does protect against unreasonable searches and seizures. and the courts have held repeatedly if there's no nexus, no connection between the drug testing and the job, then it is a violation of the fourth amendment. we can understand drug testing for air traffic controllers or firefighters or even prison guards. but simply requiring a blanket drug test of all state workers is, in my mind, not only a slap in the face to workers but unconstitutional. hey, why not just drug test all americans while we're at it? there has to be a place where we draw the line and we protect individuals' right of privacy. >> will, i want to bring you in. money is tight. should florida use its resources

do you think to be drug testing current and potential state employees all across the state? >> yeah. we're not talking about that much money here. it's not like we're creating a new entitlement or something. i want to respond to something lisa said. the line being drawn here is the the line of employment. to correlate this with testing every person in the united states is completely off base. we trade constitutional rights all day long for the privilege of employment. i can't assemble in the break room for five hours. i don't have the free speech to talk trash about my boss. if the boss in this case the taxpayers want to test their employees to see if they're on crank, that seems pretty reasonable. >> lisa, you want to respond to this? >> it seems reasonable -- >> actually, public employees don't forfeit their constitutional rights. they do still have some shreds of constitutional rights left, although they're constantly being frittered away. we're talking about not only testing for serious drugs, but testing for things like marijuana that stays in your bloodstream for 30 days. i'm surprised at a time of

fiscal austerity anybody would introduce a measure like this that would cost a significant amount of money. we're talking about testing a large number of people, at a minimum four times a year. for what? without reasonable suspicion. are we to say to all state employees we think you're drug addicts? i think that's offensive. >> the governor has said he owes that to the people there of florida. mark, i want to give you a word in here. >> yeah, the cost issue is a red herring. the cost of drug testing is not very much. the cost of not doing drug testing is very expensive. according to health and human services, those who engage in illicit drugs are one-third less productive. according to hhs, the federal government, 11% of those who are 18 and older working outside of the home are current illicit drug users. in the private sector, we're addressing that and addressing it very effectively. why shouldn't the public sector be able to address it as well? that's why i applaud governor scott's sentiment.

you do have the fourth amendment applicability. i would rather and advise him to limit this to preemployment testing, not post employment testing. >> we'll give you the final word here, will. >> i just want to say, this isn't some big intrusion on public employees' constitutional rights. they still have them. what they won't have if they fail a drug test or they won't want to submit to it is their job. they still have their rights. >> all right. all of you, great discussion. certainly a hot topic. glad we had you all here to talk about it with us. thank you. bristol palin will talk about politics and her pregnancy. mark preston will have all the details. the whole scoop for us, next. yet an instant classic." with sports car styling and power, plus the refinement and space of a luxury sedan, the jaguar xf is a timeless blend of performance and craftsmanship. see how jaguar outperforms the competition at jaguarperforms.com or visit your local jaguar dealer.

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time for a cnn political update. mark preston joins me from washington. hi there, mark. texas governor rick perry staying in the news for sure. >> he certainly is, randi. yesterday we talked about how rick perry who was seriously considering running for president is going to appear at a conference down in south carolina that's being hosted by a red state. now we find out today that rick perry is going to be going to another very important early voting state in the republican presidential primary process, new hampshire. he's going up there for a fundraiser for the cornerstone group. it is a conservative organization in new hampshire. so as rick perry continues to mull in whether or not he's going to run for president, it seems like he's taking steps that appears that he will. we'll hopefully find out by next

month whether the texas governor, in fact, will seek the republican presidential nomination. you know, randi, one person who a lot of people have left for dead, even though he is running for president, is newt gingrich. today in atlanta where you are, he came out during his speech and he continued to vow to run for president even though he's had all these problems with his staff shake-up, a lot of staffers have left him. just yesterday it was announced that two of his top fundraisers were leaving the campaign. but today during the speech down in atlanta, newt gingrich talked about how at this time during the 2007 presidential election, hillary clinton was the favorite to win the democratic nomination, john mccain was out of money and rudy giuliani was expected to win the republican n nomination. we all know how that worked out. barack obama won democratic nomination, won the white house and john mccain went on to win the republican nomination. newt gingrich vowing to motor on despite all the problems facing his campaign. how about this? bristol palin, randy, she's coming out with a