bulger, formerly the powerful president of the massachusetts senate, once took the fifth for you we hung on till dark amendment and refused to testify regarding his brother's whereabouts only added to the intrigue and guessing. hour's dawn's overdue ♪ and while the saga of whitey bulger is far from over, his ♪ bring on tomorrow and show me capture marks a milestone that families of his alleged victims have been waiting 16 years for. the sun we'll live it together >> i'm in disbelief. 'cause you are the one ♪ tears come to my eyes. i'm elated. 'cause you are the one ♪ ♪ you know, i'm in disbelief, -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com shock. i'm just extremely happy. >> joining me now is drew a major arrest in one of griffin who's been hearing that america's most wanted criminals tv and tip explanation of how after a sting operation out of the movies. the fbi caught bulger could be a yet every single law enforcement source that we've spoken to cover story for something else. also cnn contributor and former outside the fbi, every one of them doubts it really went down fbi director tom fuentes and the way the fbi is now telling it. we're talking about the arrest dick layer who coauthored the the number two man on the fbi's most wanted list, second only to chronicle of "black mass". >> drewers let's start with you. osama bin laden. tonight he is in jail. if you listen to the fbi it was james whitey bulger. shown here with his girlfriend these tv shots. you've u been talking to a lot of law enforcement sources catherine gri,g. outside the fbi. legendary boston crime boss. they are casting doubt on that. >> it's important to say outside

inspiration for jack nichol the fbi. these sources are saying it was sohn's blood thirsty killer in too easy. look, 16 years on the run, the movie "the departed" and fbi thousands of tips have come in. there's been movies, tv shows, informant. degrees he ratted out his competition. some of them. newspaper reporting. others he allegedly murdered, and all of a sudden one day tortured, enemies, associates, after they air this psa in all anyone who crossed him. these tv markets, not los 19 in all according to angeles, they get a tip that authorities. and all the while, all the while leads to the arrest. while he was killing others his >> what do these people say? >> that maybe this was a smoke handler in the fbi turned a screen to protect the real blind eye to his blood luft. tipster and protect that person because that person's life may in fact it was this same fbi be in danger. agent who alerted bulger that he or perhaps bulger himself was was about to be indicted, turning himself in. sparking him to make a run for there's $2 million for him, it. that was in 1994. $100,000 reward for her. since then there have been they just don't believe it. bulger sightings all around the world. and they're elling us that, look but it was here in a rent controlled apartment on a modest at, watch whaps in the days street in santa monica ahead. we're going to get a different california where agents arrested story. >> tom, do you cast doubt on him last evening. what the fbi has been saying? 81-year-old bulger and his >> not really. 61-year-old girlfriend miss i've had friends of mine that were involved in this grieg were arraigned today in investigation and involved in federal court agreeing to catching fugitives over the extradition back to boston. years tell me that they ran the the fbi crediting his capture to a public service campaign, tv public service announcement and spots aimed at making grieg's the person that called in the tip did not see the direct face as well-known as her announcement but saw the media boyfriend's. >> on tuesday 21st just after coverage that fbi had done an announcement on one of the cable

8:p.m. pacific standard time a tip was received by the fbi's network channels and they wouldn't tell me which one. los angeles office. the tip was generated as a but that's what they're saying. and as far as the smoke screen direct result of the fbi's unique publicity campaign to protect the tipster or protect an informant, they could organized by fbi boston and fbi protect that informant in any event. headquarters this past monday. they could protect the tipster as part of that campaign, the no matter how that information fbi paid for a public service came in. so i don't see why the fbi -- announcement to run in 14 media and it would take a long time to markets across the country. prepare that public service those media markets were chosen announcement. because the fbi knew that bulger it cost money to air it. i just don't buy that part of and grieg had ties to those areas. it, either. the suspicion that they would >> keeping them honest tonight, numerous sources in law use that as a ruse to cover a enforcement tell us they had doubts that a public service tipster who they could cover in any event. campaign, one that didn't even >> right. dick, you've writ an lot about run in los angeles, could get this. and there's been a lot of anger results so quickly. towards the fbi in boston drew griffin and producer david because they more or less fitzpatrick have been talking to those sources. protected whitey bulger for so they say it stretches belief long. talk a little bit about what that government tv spots could get such a quick response. makes him so fascinating, the that's not all, they say. drew joins us shortly with history. our piece kind of got details that may support two interrupted there. alternative theorys of how >> yeah, sure. i mean, obviously the capture of bulger's 16-year run finally ended. someone from the ten most wanted first a quick look back a list who's connected to 19 timeline. >> the international manhunt for murders and possibly more, a one of america's most wanted men crime boss from boston who's ended here, in a nondescript been on the run for 16 years, that is a huge story and a huge apartment building just blocks

from the ocean in santa monica, development. but just as important -- and you california. federal authorities say the mentioned it -- is the affable couple known as charles corruption in the fbi boston and carroll gasko were in fact office for so many years. that watched his back and became infamous boston gangster whitey part of the bulger gang, a crew bulger and his long time companion catherine grieg. of corrupted agents. >> we have captured a man and they enabled whitey bulger notorious in boston and around the world. to carry on the way he did for >> bulger, wanted in connection with 19 murder, had been on the so many years. that makes people mad. run since a corrupt former fbi if you're in the city during the tipped him off in 1994 to an 70s and 80s when the dirty deal impending indictment. for more than 16 years, was really in play and you lost sightings of bulger were a family member to the bulger reported across the globe. gang or someone got shaken down or beat up and you came to from new york -- clearly having realize that the nation's elite law enforcement agency, the fbi, a problem with that piece. i apologize for that. was not the place to go to to joining me now is drew griffin try to get some justice, when who's been hearing that the tv that truth comes tumbling out as and tip explanation of how the fbi caught bulger could be a it did in horrific detail during the 1990s you get mad. cover story for something else. >> what made whitey bulger so cnn producer tom fuentes joins tough? i mean, was he just completely ruthless? >> yeah. he's a sociopath, sold-blooded us and dick blare at author of killer. come up with all the terms. "black mask". >> if you listen to the fbi it he's a guy who didn't think

was these tv spots. twice about blowing your brains you've been talking to a lot of out. law enforcement sources outside and there's been ample evidence the fbi. coming out. they are casting doubt about and the bodies they've dug up. that. >> these sources are saying it when they killed someone, this was too easy. 16 years on the run, thousands is pre-dna. of tips have come in. they pulled the teeth out, cut the fingers off, tried to make there's been movies, tv shows, it so the victims if they were newspaper reporting. and all of a sudden one day discovered from their graves after they air this psa and all couldn't be identified. there's just no bottom. these tv markets, not los it doesn't get much us letter angeles, they get a tip that leads to the arrest. than someone like whitey bulger. ? so what did these people say? >> tom, after he escaped and all >> that maybe this was a smoke screen to protect the real these problems with the fbi tipster and protect that person field office there were because that person's life may be in danger. revealed, were a lot of changes or perhaps bulger himself was turning himself in. made? >> yes. there were changes made. but i'd like to add something there's $2 million for him, that there have been thousands of agents working this program $100,000 reward for her. they just don't believe it. for the last three decades. and they're telling us that, you've had two rogue agents in look at, watch what happens in the days ahead. boston that did horrific damage we're going to get a different story. to the fbi, to the community, to >> tom, do you cast doubt on what the fbi has been saying? >> not really. the 19 victims and their i've had friend of mine that families. there's no question about that. were involved in this and it was a horrible tragedy. investigation. and involved in catching but i'd like to add that the fbi fugitives over the years. did conduct the investigation to tell me that they ran the public go after john connolly and service announcement. and the person that called in eventually convicted him.

the tip did not see the direct and he earned a 10-year prison announcement but saw the media sentence from that. so the investigation that went coverage that fbi had done it an on to try to uncover what announcement on one of the cable happened within the fbi office network channels. and what happened with those two they wouldn't tell me which one. but that's what they're saying. agents was extensive. and as far as a smoke screen to and i was involved personally in protect the tipster or protect many of the meeting that an informant, they could protect discussed it. that informant in any event. i was not involved in the investigation because i was they could protect the tipster recused from it being involved no matter how that information in the organized crime program came in. over almost all of my career of so i don't see why the fbi -- nearly 30 years. and it would take a long time to and i ran the organized crime prepare that public service program for five. so i'll admit, i'm not going to announcement. it cost money to air it. be the most objective person i just don't buy that part of here. but what i'd like to say is, it, either. the suspicion that they would thousands of agents have worked use that as a ruse to cover a in this program. and along with prosecutors from tipster who they could cover in the department of justice strike any event. >> dick, you've written a lot force have dismembered and about this. and there's been a lot of anger towards the fbi in boston dismantled much of la cos because they more or less cosa nostra prevented chinese, protected whitey bulger for so long. talk a little bit about i mean russian, albanian, german, other organized crime groups from what makes him so fascinating, getting the kind of foothold in the history. our piece kind of got interrupted there. the united states that some of >> yeah, sure. i mean, obviously the capture of these other organized crime groups had. so thousands of people did tremendous work. someone from the 10 most wanted but unfortunately in the situation you have two rogue list who's connected to 19

agents that did horrible damage. murder and possibly more, a there's no question about that. crime boss from boston who's and the fbi in boston has paid been on the run for 16 years, that is a huge story and a huge for this damage within the law development. enforcement community for decades. but just as important, and you >> right. drew, what do we know about this mentioned it, is the corruption in the fbi boston office for so girlfriend? >> yeah. many years. catherine grieg. that watched his back and became 21 years whitey's junior. part of the bulger gang. a crew of corrupted agents. i think tom might agree with me, she may be the achilles heel. and they enabled whitey bulger they focused on her in the psa, to carry on the way he did for so many years. that he was with this woman. and that makes people mad. he was with her from the start of his run. if you're in the city during the wanted for harboring a fugitive. 70s and 80s when the dirty deal not a major penalty there. five years would be the maximum. was really in play, and you lost but they're possibly looking at more charges for her. a family member to the bulger gang or someone got shaken down >> dick, i was reading today or beat up and you came to some bostonians were remembering realize that the nation's elite law enforcement agency, the fbi, whitey fondly. a robin hood figure. was not the place to go to to that's certainly not the reality. try to get some justice, when most people sort of changed their mind on that over the that truth comes tumbling out as years, right? >> yeah. that's a throwback. it did in horrific detail during this story has been around for the 1990s, you get mad. so long. i mean, the bulger story you have to break it down into >> what made whitey bulger so chapters or acts. tough? i mean, was he just completely and the first act was this notion of whitey bulger being a

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like to see someday. and i'm not sure wei going to get it. >> tom, why do you think it was so hard to catch these two? i mean, how tough is -- how easy is it to disappear in the united states? i mean, i can imagine if he was in brazil or some foreign country. but living in the united states, in this day and age it's amazing that somebody can just kind of disappear. >> well, normally in a major fugitive case you track them down if they use credit cards you can track them down electronically where the card was used. and at some point if they were it looks like this could be planning to be fugitives they one way or another for a bill to run out of cash. and either run home to their parents or brother, sister, legalize same-sex marriage in other family members or new york state. sources say if republican associates. in this case, it was pretty lawmakers who control the new york senate decide to bring it clear from the beginning that he to the floor, a vote on the bill had planned for the possibility would likely happen very late of being a fugitive. tonight or very early tomorrow he had safe deposit boxes in morning. if. as it stands the senate is said other countries around the to be almost evenly split, 31 in world. he had millions of dollars in favor, 29 opposed and two cash. undecided according to a tally and he just put it in many different places so that he done by cnn affiliate new york could access it later and not one. president obama who does not have to go back. support gay marriage was at a and of course, at this apartment that he had in santa monica he's gay and lesbian fundraiser been paying for it in cash for tonight in manhattan touting his

nearly 10 years. record. >> that's why we're going to so that prevents an electronic keep on fighting until the law trail to track back to them and no longer treats committed makes it much more hard for partners who have been together fugitive investigators to get for decades like they're him. >> andrew, they found a lot of cash in his apartment, right? strangers. >> the l.a. times is reporting that's why i have long believed that so-called defense of $800,000 in cash. >> dick. sorry. marriage act ought to be go ahead. >> sure. repealed. to add to what tom was saying, it was wrong. it was unfair. [ cheers and applause ] >> in a 1996 questionnaire, another important point is that whitey bulger was an experienced mr. obama said he supported traveler as a crime boss. marriage rights. his position changed as he got there are a lot of gangsters, into national politician. urban gangsters who if they now he says his position is leigh the neighborhood they're evolving. that is certainly true for a lost at sea. pair of gop lawmakers in albany that wasn't the case with whitey. as part of his plans for the who changed their minds and are now supporting a marriage rights possibility that he'd someday bill. but everything is moving very have to flee, he got comfortable slowly there as mary snow has being on the road and traveling been finding out. she joins us from albany. around the world and making mary, will this bill come up for these cash deposits so that a vote tonight or early in the they'd be there in the event that he needed the money. >> if i could add to that, morning tomorrow? >> reporter: we're being told during my last 4 1/2 years in that a decision on whether to the bureau i ran the bring this bill up for a vote international program. will likely now come after and there were times when we had midnight. and if it will be brought up for sightings of him simultaneously a vote, that it would come on different continents in south probably hours after that. america and europe and other there have been intense places.

so he basically became the elvis negotiations going on throughout the day. of gangsters. and inside the capitol there but it was a constant matter of have been demonstrators both for chasing down sightings of him. and against this bill growing in and to the point that since he volume. became a fugitive, the fbi and i was talking to a veteran political reporter who's been tracked over 12,000 leads in here more than 20 years. connection with him. and then when they ran this and he has said that he has not public service announcement, seen anything this intense in received several hundred tips the time that he's been here. just from that. so it's been difficult sorting but exactly what is causing this out good lead from bad leads in delay at this point unclear. the case. >> right. well, i can't wait to get more these lawmakers still have other details as the days progress. legislation that they need to drew griffin appreciate it. vote on. rent regulation and property tax dick layer and tom fuentes. caps. >> late tonight, though, gop follow me on twitter @ anderson state senator, mary, named greg cooper lawmakers are working late ball officially announced he would vote no on the same-sex into the night tonight in new york possibly getting ready to marriage bill. is that a bad omen for the vote on a same-sex marriage bill's passing? bill. we've got a live update with >> no. because it's not a big surprise time run out later a true shocker in the that he is saying that she's going to oppose it. casey anthony trial. what her mom said on the stand the democrats were not really expecting him to change his about googling the word mind. there are a handful of "chloroform" and howed could help establish reasonable doubt. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now. republicans who are in play. one of them is andrew lanzo. and he has been negotiating. he's one of three republicans who have been negotiating with governor cuomo on the language

of the bill. there's been concerns among some republicans about protections for religious organizations. he says he considers himself a no, but listening we caught up with him a few hours ago. here's what he had to say. >> i think at the end of date it's about treating each other the way we want to be treated. where i am stuck is with the notion that we can do all that without changing the definition of the word "marriage". >> reporter: and anderson, in his words he told us that there was great progress being made on two of the most important are energy security that language. we can tell you that people have and economic growth. been lining up here since this north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. morning to get a seat in the senate chamber. and they've been sitting now a large part of that is oil sands. waiting for hours to see -- this resource has the ability to create witness this potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs. historic vote. >> mary, appreciate the update. at our kearl project in canada, with me now is evan wolfson we'll be able to produce these oil sands executive director for of with the same emissions as many other oils freedom to marry.org and senior and that's a huge breakthrough. that's good for our country's energy security analyst jeffrey toobin. and our economy.

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person you're building a life with. >> jeff, the albany politics are kind of a mystery to me. i've read a lot about it. i still don't understand how it all works. explain what is the hold up on actually just voting one way or another? >> well, democracy is not something that is a big part of how albany works. you would think a bill before the state senate gets voted on. well, that's not necessarily the case. the way the new york state senate work is that the majority lead, dean skelos, he gets to decide whether this vote comes to the floor. he doesn't have to bring it to the floor even if he thinks it's going to pass. it looks like this could be because it is entirely up to one way or another for a bill to legalize same-sex marriage in him. that is -- that's why we don't new york state. sources say that if republican know whether there will be a lawmakers who control the senate vote tonight or ever. decide to bring it to the floor, another thing people may wonder a vote on the bill would likely is, what's this business about happen very late tonight or why is it going to be voted on early tomorrow morning. if. as it stands the senate is said at midnight or 2:00 in the to be almost evenly split. morning. well, there's a long history in

31 in favor, 29 opposed and two albany of doing things in the undecided according to a tally middle of the night because people aren't there, and done by cnn affiliate new york newspaper deadlines will be one. president obama who does not missed. so that news will really sort of support gay marriage was at a gay and lesbian fundraiser in dribble out, even in the internet era. that's how these politicians manhattan tonight touting his record. >> that's why we're going to think. it has very little to do with keep on fighting until the law no longer treats committed democracy or the public trust. >> jeff, have you been kidnapped partners who have been together and are you being held in a cave for decades like they're strangers. somewhere? that's why i have long believed your just blank. in the so-called defense of >> i'm in west virginia. this is skype. marriage act ought to be and you know, it's a work in repealed. it was wrong. progress. it was unfair. >> it looks a little ominous. [ applause ] >> in a 1996 questionnaire >> believe me. there's no hostage situation. mr. obama said he supported marriage rights. his position changed as he got >> all right. all right. what are you hearing, evan, in into national politics. terms of the actual vote. now he says his position is >> well again, we're very, very evolving. that is certainly true for a hopeful that they are going to pair of gop lawmakers in albany bring it to a vote. certainly new yorkers are who changed their minds and are clamoring for a vote. now supporting a marriage rights thousands and thousands of people have talked to their bill. but everything is moving very slowly there as mary snow has legislators, called their legislators. been finding out. >> evan wolfson, appreciate it. she joins us now from albany. jeff toobin as well. still ahead the lawyer for casey mary, what is the latest that you're hearing? will this bill come up for a anthony's parents speaking out. vote tonight or early in the he told gary tuchman they don't morning tomorrow? believe their daughter is >> reporter: we're being told,

innocent in the death of their anderson, that a decision on granddaughter caylee. whether to bring this bill up for a vote will likely now come my interview with him is next after midnight. and if it will be brought up for and all that happened stand a vote that it would come today. detail of the dangerous flooding probably hours after that. there have been intense negotiations going on throughout the day. and inside the capitol there in minot, north caroli north da. have been demonstrators both for and against this bill growing in specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... volume. and i was talking to a veteran and my hands were full. political reporter who's been here more than 20 years. i couldn't sort through it all. and he has said that he has not with unitedhealthcare, it's different. seen anything this intense in we have access to great specialists, the time that he's been here. and our pediatrician gets all the information. but exactly what is causing this everyone works as a team. delay at this point, unclear. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. these lawmakers still have other we're more than 78,000 people legislation that they need to looking out for 70 million americans. vote on. that's health in numbers. rent regulation and property tax unitedhealthcare. caps. >> late tonight, though, gop state senator named greg ball carol. fiber makes me sad. officially announced he would vote no on the same-sex marriage bill. oh common. is that a bad omen for the and how can you talk to me about fiber bill's passing? while you are eating a candy bar? >> no. because you know it's not a big you enjoy that. i am. surprise that he is saying that he is going to oppose it. [ male announcer ] fiber beyond recognition. the democrats were not really fiber one. expecting him to change his

mind. there are a handful of republicans who are in play. one of them is andrew lanzo. he has been negotiating. he's one of three republicans who have been negotiating with governor cuomo on the language of the bill. there's been concerns among some republicans about protections for religious organizations. he says he considers himself a no, but listening we caught up with him a few hours ago. here's what he had to say. >> i think at the end of the day it's about treating each other the way we want to be treated. where i am stuck is on the -- is with the notion that we can do all that without changing the definition of the word "marriage". >> reporter: and anderson, in his words he told us that there was great progress being made on that language. we can tell you that people have been lining up here since this morning to get a seat in the senate chamber. and they've been sitting now waiting for hours to see -- witness this potentially historic vote.

>> mary, appreciate the update. with me now is evan wolfson executive director of freedom to mary.org and senior analyst jeffrey toobin. evan, as a supporter of same-sex marriage, answer what that state senator was saying about why change -- he's stuck on the word. he's stuck on changing the definition of the word "marriage". >> the first thing i would say is that marriage is not defined by who's denied it. when gay people are able to share in the freedom to marry because they are in love, because they have made a commitment in life and they want a commitment in law, that doesn't change marriage. it doesn't take anything away from anyone else. it doesn't use up marriage. marriage is there for all of us to share. those of us who have made a commitment. and what gay people want is to be able to participate in that legal commitment. and the other thing i would say is that some states have tried to come up with alternative parallel other mechanisms. and started earning loads of points. civil union partnership. and right across the river in you got a weather balloon with points? new jersey where they have civil yes i did. union, the official state [ man ] points i could use for just about anything. commission that was appointed by the legislature and the governor ♪

to study how is civil union working reported that it isn't ♪ working. it doesn't fully protect family. it does make a difference when there it is. you're able to say, i'm married [ man ] so i used mine to get a whole new perspective. and have everyone understand who ♪ you are in relationship to the primary person you're building a life with. [ male announcer ] the new citi thankyou premier card gives you more ways to earn points. >> jeff, the albany politics are a kind of a mystery to me. what's your story? citi can help you write it. i've read a lot about it. i still don't understand how it all works. explain what is the hold up on actually just voting one way or another? >> well, democracy is not something that is a big part of how albany works. you would think a bill before the state senate gets voted on. well, that's not necessarily the case. the way the new york state senate work is is that majority leader, dean skellos, he gets to decide whether this vote comes to the floor. he doesn't have to bring it to the floor even if he thinks it's going to pass. because it is entirely up to him. that is -- that's why we don't

know whether there will be a vote tonight or ever. another thing people may wonder just ahead tonight's is, what's this business about dramatic developments in the casey anthony trial. why is it going to be voted on cindy anthony casey' mom taking at midnight or 2:00 in the morning? well, there's a long history in the witness stand again today. this time she was called by the albany of doing things in the defense. what she said clearly did not please the prosecution and could middle of the night because be a game changer. people aren't there, and we'll take you inside the courtroom. newspaper ted lines will be first a 360 followup. missed so that news will really questions were raised today over a report we brought you last sort of dribble out even in the night, a report that we stand internet era. by. yesterday mark lippman, the that's how these politicians lawyer for casey anthony's think. it has very little to do with parents and brother talked on the record to gary tuchman and democracy or the public trust. told him cindy and george >> jeff, have you been kidnapped anthony do not think their and are you being held in a cave daughter is innocent. at the same time do not want her to receive the death penalty. somewhere? that's what we reported last you are just blank. >> i'm in west virginia. night. a lot of other news outlets picked up our reporting. this is skype. and you know, it's a work in today mr. lippman put out a progress. statement kbair had taken the >> it looks a little ominous. >> believe me. statements out of context. i talked to him earlier. there's no hostage situation. >> all right. all right. what are you hearing, evan, in >> mr. lippman, i know in an terms of the actual vote? interview you did with gary tuchman yesterday has caused a >> well again we're very, very lot of drama. hopeful that they are going to i want to just clear up because bring it to a vote. certainly new yorkers are you put out several statements about it. i just want to clear up what we clamoring for a vote. thousands of thousands of people have talked to their aired and what issue you may have with it.

legislators, called their i want to play what gary said on legislators. senator skellos, the majority our program last night. leader has repeatedly said he >> mark lippman has told me believes there should be a vote. this. i asked him a very specific >> if they decide not to vote on question. i said, do your clients, george it at all, can they do that? and cindy anthony, think that decide not to vote and go home? she is not guilty? >> they can do that. and his answer was, they do not the governor also has the power to call them back. think that. and governor cuomo has said he's he said, they want to see justice done. cautiously optimistic that there they want to see the truth come is going to be a vote. out. and then he added to me, he and he is very hopeful like me said, they do not believe she is that the senate is going to do the right thing, what new innocent. yorkers want. >> this could be at 4:00 a.m. that being said, okay? this is very important. >> it could be a long night. he wanted me to stress this and it's important that i do stress >> there's no limit on when it this. they love her, they support her, could be. >> there is no limit on when it and they do not want her to get could be. and the sooner the better. the death penalty. they will do all they can to >> anderson, let's be clear avoid her getting the death here. governor cuomo can call the penalty in this case. senate back into session. >> so in all the statements that but he cannot make them vote on i've seen put out today, it doesn't seem like you are this bill. he cannot make them call up the denying anything specifically that gary actually said in that. bill. this is entirely up to one >> no. i'm going to clarify what i was person, the majority leader. i mean, it is astonishing. talking to gary about. first and foremost, the banner and it's not my place to say ads and the teasers on the show that they should vote for it or yesterday indicated that my vote against it. but the idea that they wouldn't vote at all is really a scandal clients believe that their daughter is guilty. in the make. and by inference that would mean

>> i just want to play briefly that she would be guilty of some of what president obama first degree murder, which is said tonight at a fundraiser for gay and lesbian americans. premeditated. let's watch. >> but i've looked at the >> i believe that discrimination transcript. we never said that they think because of somebody's sexual she's guilty or they think -- we orientation or gender identity just said not innocent. ran counter to who we are as a >> right. not innocent -- well, and again, people. and it's a violation of the i'm a black and white person. basic tenets on which this i don't need to have anybody nation was founded. speculating. i believe that gay couples therefore i'm trying to clarify. the evidence that's been deserve the same legal rights as presented especially with the every other couple in this opening statement suggests that george anthony had something to country. >> it's interesting. if you listen to that you would do with either molesting his think he is in support of gay daughter and/or something to do marriage but publicly he is not. >> that's right. with the removal of caylee marie what the president said was great. gay people should have the same anthony's body after she was rights, gay couples should have found dead. and none of those things are the same protections, the same freedoms as any other couples. true. >> so the bottom line, though, what he didn't say is what left just so we are all clear, you kind of a gap in the room. did say to gary tuchman because he didn't come out right yesterday in a conversation that and say one of those same rights that people enjoy when they've was on the record -- in fact you made a commitment to one another had two conversations yesterday. is the freedom to marry and to be denied that freedom to marry in the first conversation you is to be denied something very, said that they do not believe very important. but i think it's also important she is innocent. to understand that president >> based on the evidence that's

obama, while he has not yet forth rightly come out and said been presented by the defense so he supports the freedom to marry has talked about being on a far in their opening and the evidence that's been presented journey in support, about by the state, you can see in listening to people, thinking it through. court their statements. i'm certainly not going to discuss their personal feelings and he has also opposed a or anything that we have attacks on the freedom to marry. he lauded tonight the fact that discussed. >> so again, i don't want to harp on this and this will be new york is debating ending the the last time. excollusion for marriage. but just for the record, you are not denying that you told gary so the real gap there is, everything the president says tuchman yesterday they do not and does points in the direction believe that casey is innocent. where the majority of americans have already gone. in support of the freedom to >> again, the totality of the conversation it's based on the marry. >> could we also talk about -- president obama is someone who evidence. and i'm clarifying and making prides himself on his candor, sure it's specific that my his honesty, his intellectual clients never, ever suggested nature. is there one person in the world that their daughter is guilty of who thinks that he's really murder. they do not know what happened, and that is the only reason they opposed to same-sex marriage? want to sit in court to get the no. he's trying to figure out a truth of what happened. politically acceptable way to get to where obviously he >> and just for the record, we already is. i mean, i think this sort of -- last night never said that you >> and where he was back in 1996 had told us that they believe when he filled out that form. their daughter is guilty. we just simply said not innocent >> and this is one of the which is the words you used to arguments i would make to the us yesterday. president. and if that was misconstrued by freedom to marry doesn't endorse

candidates. but if they were taking my others which it seems to have advice, what i would say is this been to indicate they believe president really has nothing to she's guilty of something specific, that would be lose and a lot to gain from being forth right in support of incorrect. but that's not our mistake, that's other people's the freedom to marry which the majority of americans support. interpretations of it. >> it started from here so i wanted to end it here. he's already done so much that and just to make sure that to attack discrimination, to challenge discrimination, to clarification is there that one, speak for equality, that he's this is not anything that they already lost those who are opposed. there's no one in america who certainly have said directly to he's going to lose if he says anyone, nor can they give a press conference. they're under the rule of the words" yes, i support the freedom to marry just like my other fellow americans". sequestration. but as their attorney i can say the majority. that evidence that's been >> are you going to be up all presented specifically against night waiting for this thing? george is just a total lie. >> i'm going to do my best. >> mark lippman, i appreciate still ahead the parents for your time tonight. thank you. casey anthony speaking out. >> thanks very much. >> well, as i said, we stand they don't believe their daughter is innocent in the gary's reporting. mr. lippman didn't deny what death or their daughter caylee. gary reported on air tonight. also late-breaking details of i talked to gary a short time ago. the historic and dangerous >> what did you make of what mark lippman said to me? flooding in minot, north carolina. beyond all the press releases we'll be right back. in here, the planned combination and the press conferences that that he had today and the kind of at&t and t-mobile would deliver of the backtracking he's done our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, publicly, bottom line, he didn't

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just ahead in tonight's dramatic developments in the casey anthony trial. cindy anthony, casey's mom taking the witness stand again today. this time she was called by the defense. and what she said clearly did not please the prosecution and could be a game changer. we'll take you inside the courtroom. first a 360 followup. questions were raised today over a report we brought you last night, a report that we stand by. yesterday mark lipman, the lawyer for the anthony's talked on the record to gary tuck man and told him george and cindy anthony do not think their daughter is innocent but don't i used to not travel very much, want her to southeast death but then i discovered hotwire. penalty. a lot of other news outlets now, i use all my vacation days.

picked up our reporting. i can afford to visit my folks for the holidays. today mr. lippman put out a statement gary had taken the and reconnect with my girlfriends in vegas. statements out of context. i talked to him earlier. because i get ridiculously low prices on all my trips. >> mr. lippman, i know in an you see, when hotels have unsold rooms, they use hotwire to fill them, so i get 4-star hotels for up to half off. interview you did with gary tuchman yesterday has cause add lot of drama. now i can afford a romantic trip you put out several statements to new orleans. about it. i want to clear up what we aired hi honey! and what issue you may have with ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪ hotwire.com it. i want to play what gary said on our program last night. >> mark lippman has told me this. i asked him a very specific question. i said do your clients george and cindy anthony think that she is not guilty? and his answer was, they do not think that. he said they want to see justice done. they want to see the truth come out. and then he added to me, he said, they do not believe she is innocent. that being said, okay, this is very important and he wanted me to stress this and it's important that i do stress. this they love her, they support her and they do not want her to get the death penalty. they will do all they can to avoid her getting the death penalty in this case. >> so in all the statements that

i've seen put out today, it doesn't seem like you are denying anything specifically that gary actually said in that. >> no. i'm going to clarify what i was talking to gary about. first and foremost, the banner ads and the teasers on the show yesterday indicated that my clients believe that their daughter is guilty. and by inference that would mean that she would be guilty of first degree murder which is premeditated. >> i've looked at the transcript. we never said that they think she's guilty or they think -- that we just said not innocent. >> right. not innocent. well, and again, i'm a black and white person. i don't need to have anybody speculating. therefore i'm trying to clarify. the evidence that's been presented especially with the opening statement suggests that george anthony had something to do with either molesting his daughter and/or something to do with the removal of caylee marie anthony's body after she was

found dead. crime and punishment, and none of those things are jaw-dropping testimony today in true. >> so the bottom line, though, the casey anthony crime just so we are all clear, you especially for the prosecution. called to the witness stand by did say to gary tuchman the defense, cindy anthony was yesterday in a conversation that asked about computer searches was on the record, in fact you that investigators retrieved had two conversations yesterday, from the hard drive of the anthony's family computer. the prosecution's case as you in the first conversation you know rests heavily on some of said that they do not believe those search terms that were recovered including the word she is innocent. "chloroform". >> based on the evidence that's keep in mind just yesterday mark lip man, cindy and george been presented by the defense so anthony's lawyer told gary far in their opening and this tuchman the couple do not believe their daughter is evidence that's been presented by the state, you can see in innocent in the death of 2-year-old caylee. but they said they will do court their statements. i'm certainly not going to everything they can to save discuss their personal feelings casey from a death sentence if or anything that we have discussed. convicted. >> so again, i mean, i don't here's gary's report. want to harp on this and this will be the last time. but just for the record you are >> reporter: casey anthony's not denying you told gary mother was a dramatic witness for the prosecution in the tuchman yesterday they do not beginning of the trial. believe that casey is innocent. and today she remains a dramatic witness, in a different way. >> again, in the toe stallity of the conversation it's based on this time for the defense. the evidence. the prosecution says alleged and i'm clarifying and making murderer casey anthony searched for the word "chloroform" on the sure it's specific that my home computer, and that she clients never, ever suggested that their daughter is guilty of ultimately poisoned her daughter

murder. they do not know what happened caylee with it and then suffocated her. but listen to her mom. and that is the only reason they >> in march of 2008, you doing want to sit in court to get the any types of searches for any truth of what happened. >> and just for the record, we last night never said that you items that might include had told us that they believe their daughter is guilty. chloroform? >> yes. >> reporter: it's a huge twist in the case. we just simply said not innocent cindy anthony said she was the which is the words you used to us yesterday. chloroform computer searcher. and if that was misconstrued by she claims one of her dogs was others, which it seems to have getting tired. and even though records say she been to indicate they believe was at work, she thinks she was she's guilty of something home on the computer, looking up specific, that would be incorrect. but that's not our mistake, chemicals that might be causing the problem. >> so i started looking up that's other people's interpretations of it. >> it started from here so i sources from the backyard that wanted to end it here. could potentially cause her to and just make sure that be more sleepy than it would clarification is there. affect the larger dog. that one, this is not anything and i started looking up that they certainly have said chloroform -- i mean chlorophyll directly to anyone nor can they give a press conference. and chloroform. they are under the rule of >> reporter: the prosecutor clearly angry at what she believes untrue testimony from sequestration. cindy anthony reminds her what but as their attorney i can say the evidence that's been she said in a deposition in presented specifically against george is just a total lie. 2008. >> do you recall denying you >> mark lippman, appreciate your made any searches for how to

time tonight. thank you. >> thanks very much. >> as i said, we stand by gary's make chloroform? >> i didn't look up how to make reporting. you just sought for your solve chloroform, i looked up mr. lipman didn't deny what we prosecution. >> reporter: the prosecution has reported on air last night. presented evidence casey anthony >> gary, what did you make of typed these exact words, how to make chloroform, into a google what mark lippman said to me? search bar. beyond all the press releases >> did you type in to the search and the press conference that he had today and the kind of the bar on google, how to make backtracking he's done publicly, chloroform? did you type those words into bottom line, he didn't disagree the search bar on going elgin that he said what you said he baylor? >> i don't recall typing in how said, that casey -- that george to make chloroform. >> reporter: and the prosecution and cindy anthony do not believe claims chloroform was looked up their daughter is innocent. 84 times on one web site. >> i didn't do 84 searches of >> reporter: it was kind of interesting today at a press anything. but i don't know what my computer does while it's conference to refute what i said. but you're right, he did not running. >> reporter: the allegation is that casey also looked up disagree with it. violent terms on the computer as he was very am big white house. she plotted hurting her i think he purposely wanted to daughter. at the same time she was looking be ambiguous about this. up chloroform. >> do you recall whether or not he did not deny the quotes, he you did a search for the word did not say he was misquoted and "shovel"? >> no, i wouldn't need to look up the word "shovel". he was off the record. >> do you recall denying that it was on the record. basically he doesn't disagree with what we said he said on tv. you searched for self-defense? >> right. >> yes. it seems like basic this this i did not search for

got a lot of pick up. self-defense. some people were saying george >> household weapons? >> i did not search for and cindy anthony believe their household weapons. daughter is guilty. >> neck breaking. we never said that on this >> i did not search for neck program. you never reported that. other people may have breaking. >> alcohol? interpreted it that way. >> yes. >> peroxide? and it seems like the attorney >> yes. >> reporter: what was on that today, mr. lippman, was computer could be evidence of premeditation. basically having a kind of cover but if the jury believes cindy was on it, that evidence is himself for criticism. and that's basically what neutralized. however, could the grieving grandmother be lying for casey? happened. >> reporter: there's no question that is likely to be one of the about it. some people might watch our newscast and say, okay, they subjects in the prosecution think she's guilty of murder. closing argument. we didn't say that. gary tuchman, cnn, orlando, what we said was he believes that george and cindy are saying their daughter is not innocent. florida. coming up after months of being bard, cnn journalists innocent it not a legal term. guilty and not guilty are legal aloud inside syria today. what they're finding is the true terms. what is she not innocent of? he wouldn't tell me that. we said what the news is, that syria, the pro assad syria and they feel she's not innocent. the violence that is still out we also said something very there. i'll talk with arwa damon in important to him which he did not complain about, that is his damascus next. 6 clients' number one priority is she do not get the death penalty. they want to do all they can to avoid that. we reported that, too. >> any idea what george and cindy said to him about his comments to you? >> reporter: i'm wondering

allot. 100% sure that's why i didn't ask him this. i think if i asked him he would have told me i'm not telling you. that's attorney-client privilege. >> gary tuchman, appreciate it. thanks. gary is back in the courtroom today. his report is just ahead. what a day in the courtroom today. we may have seen what casey anthony's mom wild do to save her daughter from a possible death sentence. or perhaps she was just telling the truth. she took the witness stand and dropped a bombshell remember those love sick newlyweds we told you about a couple days ago? he's 51, she's 16? we kind of were mocking them, right? but anyway, somebody didn't quite get the joke and they land on our ridiculist tonight. call her. twenty-five thousand mornings, give or take, is all we humans get. we spend them on treadmills. we spend them in traffic. and if we get lucky, really lucky, it dawns on us to go spend them in a world where a simple sunrise can still be magic. twenty-five thousand mornings.

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very close watch. in just a moment i'll speak with our reporter inside syria and damascus for the first time since the uprising began, the uprising that the syrian government is still trying to crush with violence. in crime and punishment, jaw-dropping testimony today in the casey anthony trial, especially for the prosecution. called to the witness stand by the defense, cindy anthony, >> every day activists post new casey's mom, was asked about computer searches that videoses on line. investigators retrieved from the this one taken on tuesday hard drive of the anthony's family computer, computer that appearing to show security everyone in the household could forces beating and then detaining a man. we can't independently confirm access. the prosecution's case as you the details. know rests heavily on some of the search terms that were roofrd including the world "chloroform". yesterday mark lippman told the couple do not believe their daughter is innocent in the death of 2-year-old caylee. [ gunfire ] he also said they will do >> this video said to be shot at everything they can to save casey from a death sentence if holmes. security forces opening fire on convicted. protesters killing four people. today we may have seen cindy anthony making good on that promise. here's gary's report. >> reporter: casey anthony's mother was a dramatic witness and this one said to show for the prosecution in the security forces firing in the beginning of the trial. and today she remains a dramatic direction of protesters near a witness.

in a different way. mosque. human rights activists say more than 1100 people have died, this time for the defense. thousands jailed in the three the prosecution says alleged months of protests for murderer casey anthony searched government reform. for the word "chloroform" on the about 10,000 refugees interest home computer and that she now fled to the turkish side of the border. inside the country there seem to be at least two very different ultimately poisoned her daughter caylee with it and then suffocated her. sir yeas. arwa damon joins us now live listen to her mom. >> in march of 2008, you doing from a damascus. any types of searches for any are wa, this is your first time in damascus since the uprising items that might include began. what's it like? >> reporter: well, anderson, it chloroform? >> yes. >> reporter: it's a huge twist was quite surreal to be coming in the case. cindy anthony says she was the here, especially because we spent so much time covering the chloroform computer searcher. she claimed one of her dogs was story of the refugees along the getting tired. and even though records say she syria-turkey border just hearing was at work, she thinks she was about how they had to flee with the clothes on their back out of home on the computer, looking up chemicals that might be causing the problem. >> so i started looking up fear of the military, believing they would have been killed or sources from the backyard that detained had they stayed behind. all of a sudden we're in da mass could potentially cause her to be more sleepy than it would cass, in the capital. affect the larger dog. we went to the center of the and i started looking up city, next to the old city. this i not an area that has been chloroform -- i mean clear row the scene of any significant fill. and then that prompted me to demonstrations in the past. and while we were there, we were look up chloroform. >> reporter: the prosecutor hearing music blaring from this clearly angry at what she

giant microphone that had been believes is untrue testimony set up. i had never seen this in this from cindy anthony, remind her part of the city before. of what she said in a deposition in 2008. we were told that it was just put up, pro-government lyrics, >> do you recall denying that you made any searches for how to chant songs about how the president was the protecter and make chloroform? >> i didn't look up how to make savior of the nation. chloroform. i looked up clear row form. people peddling pro >> reporter: the prosecution has governmentwares, anything from presented evidence indicating party hats to key chains to casey anthony typed these exact t-shirts with the president's photo on them, and people saying words. how to make chloroform into a that they support the president and they believe that government google search bar. is simply targeting these ammed >> did you type in to the search gangs. and a lot of anti-western, bar on google "how to make anti-american anger, anderson. a number of people coming up to chloroform"? us saying that it was none of did you type those words into the search bar on google? america, none of the west's business, that they need to stop >> i don't recall typing in how meddling with syria's internal to make chloroform. affairs, this was an issue that >> reporter: and the prosecution government was going to handle, claims chloroform was looked up that they believe the government 84 times on one web site. was going to handle best. >> obviously the government of >> i didn't do 84 searches of syria, the regime there is anything. but i don't know what my computer does while it's titlely controlling your running. >> reporter: the allegation is that casey also looked up mobility. can you go to the areas where violent terms on the computer as the protests are? can you go to these cities? she plotted hurting her can you go to homs elsewhere and daughter. at the same time she was looking up chloroform. >> to recover whether or not you dara? >> well, anderson, we've asked.

did a search for the word and we've also asked to go up to "shovel"? >> no. i wouldn't need to look up the word shovel. the northwest to the other areas >> do you recall denying that where the crackdown is still you searched for self-defense? ongoing in some cases. >> yes. and we also asked specifically i did not search for self-defense. >> household weapons? on friday to be allowed to go to >> i did not search for the areas where the post-friday household weapons. >> neck breaking? >> i did not search for neck prayers demonstrations are taking place. breaking. >> alcohol? because we said we wanted to see >> yes. >> peroxide? for ourselves exactly what was >> yes. >> reporter: what was on that computer could be evidence of unfolding inside the country. premeditation. we were told that that would be but if the jury believes cindy looked into and that we would be was on it, that evidence is able to go. we have to wait and see if in neutralized. however, could the grieving fact they are going to allow us grandma be lying for casey? and take us to these areas. that is likely to be one of the the interesting thing, anderson, is in speaking to the government subjects in the prosecution closing argument. officials they are incredibly gary tuchman, cnn, orlando, angry and frustrated at the florida. >> i talked earlier to sonny coverage. they feel as if the hoss ten and jean casarez international media is deliberately trying to skew what covering the trial for in is happening inside syria. a number of government officials session on true tv. >> the prosecution had built a have been asking me and also the large part of its case on the foreign minister appeared on television a few days ago saying the exact same thing. belief it was casey not her parents who searched the internet for chloroform. but basically asking and wondering why is it that world's is cindy anthony's testimony a

game changer? making such a big deal about >> in my view it is. it's very clear the 10,000 syrians who were forced to flee to turkey when they give prosecution's premeditation theory is based on the fact the example that 1 million casey anthony conducted these iraqis have been forced to flee chloroform searches in march. their own country since the 2003 they believe that she conducted the searches and then used u.s.-led invasion. so that gives you a bit of an chloroform to drug her daughter and then placed duct tape over idea of where the psyche of the government is right now. her nose and mouth, suffocating >> in terms of what is happening her. that is the theory. now you have cindy anthony elsewhere in the country where getting on the witness stand and the violence is actually really poking a hole in that happening, what are we hearing? theory and saying, i'm the person who did the chloroform what's the latest? searches. what's really fascinating to me, >> reporter: well, again anderson, is that what most concentrating in the people don't understand it only northwestern part of the country. takes one juror to believe cindy and we have been increasingly hearing that syrian military was anthony. prosecutors need all 12 jurors to believe that theory. inching closer and closer to the the game has completely changed with cindy anthony's testimony turkish border. then we heard in the early hours of the morning from eyewitnesses today. >> jean, do you agree with that? and activists they did enter and did it seem to you the prosecution was blind-sided by this one small village called cindy's testimony? >> no. i think they knew it was probably going to come. hudvitajus. but i think the headline is big. this is significant because it was the village that's right cindy anthony says she did the behind a hilltop. chloroform searches. in front of this hilltop is the but i think when you look at the evidence, i don't think it's big at all. and i'll tell you why. syria-turkish border that these searches were just about makeshift camp that a number of

us have been reporting from, 12 minutes each on march 17th have been referring. to the fact that they came this and march 21st. and you need to not only look at close sent not only hundreds of people streaming across the the searches for chloroform and border into turkey but forced how to make chloroform but the those who had been left behind searches that were minutes away, to seek shelter in the olive seconds away from those groves. this was pretty much everyone's searches. and they were facebook, myspace, worst-case scenario. and photo bucket. in fact, in video that we were and cindy has testified that she able to see it appears that from didn't know how to do myspace the turkish side of the border what we were just reporting from until after caylee went missing you could in fact see the syrian in july and somebody taught her how to get on myspace to try to military's movements. find caylee. >> arwa, thanks. that shows that the person was stay safe up next, perry's principals. not cindy that did those how major league baseball searches. >> it's interesting because also players are teaming up with high on the stand cindy was asked school students to try to about what browser she was transform communities in need. using. and she had no idea what the person was talking about. >> that's right. she didn't know the browser. and you know what else? >> she didn't even know what a browser was. >> she didn't. she didn't. and you know what? she was not asked, anderson, do you realize that those searches were actually affirmatively deleted on the computer? other things were not but those searches were. did cindy delete those?

why would she do that and everything else is kept up? she wasn't asked that question. but i think it's a good one. >> jean, can't they just go and see if she was working at the time that those searches were done? because wasn't she supposedly at work then? >> and that's one way to do that. she said that her work records said she was there. but she said that she had taken days and she didn't write them down. i think they definitely could go and try to find things that she e-mailed out, maybe things that are in files that are still there, times associated with the e-mails. because they can be on e-mails to show that she was at the office and not on the computer. >> sonny, another interesting moment today came when casey seemed to mouth the word "wow "while listening to her mom talk about her memory and using different medications. >> it was really interesting. i kept on thinking was the wow because she couldn't believe that her mother was lying for her? was the wow because she couldn't believe that her mother was telling the truth? what did she mean by "wow"? i will tell you statistically jurors watch everything that's happening in a courtroom. if one of those jurors saw that,

what is the take away for the jury? i'm not so sure. >> so jean, does the prosecution now -- i mean, they'll obviously have a rebuttal chance again with cindy anthony. but i mean do they start to go after her? do they treat her as a hostile witness? how do they start to poke holes in her story? >> that's a really good question. i think their investigator is definitely looking at some things just like you were saying. but you got to remember, she's a star witness for the prosecution. she's the witness that testified day-by-day by day. everything casey told her that were alis, the people were fantasies. she's very important to the prosecution. so if they absolutely go at her, they're destroying maybe the testimony she already gave. >> what's coming up tomorrow, jean? >> well, the defense isn't saying what's coming up. but i think we're getting into the personal witnesses. the meter reader who in opening statements by the defense said actually took the body and moved it. he will be coming up. and george anthony is going to be a witness. and of course, what everyone is

waiting for, will casey take the stand. we're getting closer and closer to that question and that answer. >> jean ca zaur ez, sonny hoss tens thanks. coming up, a joy ride turns into a high-speed car cheese with local legislatorsment. turns out a 7-year-old boy was behind the wheel. detail in this ahead and we're breaking out the dictionary for tonight's ridiculist to look up the definition of sat fire. find out why a news web site may need a refrencher in what it means. it can come along anywhere, anytime. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment's right even if it's not every day. tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. [ man ] do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis.

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a 7-year-old michigan boy led police on a high-speed chase after he stole his stepdad's car. the boy had trouble pulling over but he finally did after traveling about 20 miles. police were alerted to the situation after 911 dispatchers got several calls about what appeared to be a young child driving a car. the boy told police he just wanted to go see his real dad. you know his heart was in the right placers anderson. >> oh, wow. all right, joe, thanks. time now for the ridiculist. though i work hard to avoid media feud tonight i got to add a news web site called our daily caller to the ridiculist. for the record i read the daily caller, like huffington post. but i was surprised this morning to wake up and discover the daily caller was attacking for me for something i said in the ridiculist on tuesday about the marriage of a 51-year-old character actor to a 16-year-old girl named courtney who like most wholesome 16-year-olds has a music video in which she appears, well, not innocent. >> ♪ don't put it on me girl, no

don't put it on me girl don't. >> a lot of people are suggesting that someone should have told courtney don't marry that guy. he's too old for you. you have your driver's test coming up. someone like her parents maybe. but guess what, romance haters. her parnts gave their permission. they're not those uptight parents that don't let their teenage daughter stay out past 11:00 or make music videos on boats or marry someone three times her age. they're cool parents. so on the daily caller this morning, a headline stated anderson cooper not a big deal for 16-year-old courtney stodden to 51-year-old doug hitch is sohn. "unlike much of the population, cnn an thor anderson cooper isn't repulsed by the las vegas nuptials or 16-year-old courtney stodden and 51ed doug hutch is sohn. maybe i was being too subtle on tuesday's ridiculist. let's check the tape again. >> i don't see what the big deal is.

the wedding was on may 20th according to my calendar. that was a friday. so she probably only had to miss one day of high school. what was she going to miss in 11th grade anyway? algebra? >> let's try algrebra for kicks. if x equals tongue and y equals cheek then x plus y equals -- at the daily caller it equals this "cooper justified the marriage because it apparently took place at the end of the week". yeah. that's how i justified the marriage. i bet at the daily caller if someone tells a knock knock joke everyone runs to the door and waits to see who comes in. a number of viewers e-mailed the daily caller explaining my defense of the marriage was satirical, whatever that word means. and then the woman who wrote the article wrote this on twitter. "i knew it was sar as tick. i said in my story that he took sarcastic jabs. guess i could have been clearer. could have been clearer? clearer than a completely misleading headline followed by a completely misleading story? come on, laura. don't be so hard on yourself. by the way they've now changed the headline. anderson cooper jokes, not a big

deal et cetera et cetera blah blah blah. there's a footnote says it was updated to clearly explain that segment was sarcastic. so who is the writer, this laura donovan? i did a little digging and by digging i mean low impact googling. somebody else did that. here's the bio on her web site "a new resident for the washington, d.c. air c donovan writes for the daily caller. her ultimate goal is to public non-fiction books and become the next david sedaris". laura, laura, come here. come here, laura. a little closer. come on. come on. laura -- and i think sense you've incorrectly attack me online and tried to cover your tracks i think i can call you laura. laura, it would be very, very easy for me right now to make some sort of snarky comment. but i'm not going to do that. you're only 22 years old. you wrote for your college newspaper and you have a blog about guys who hit on you or something. i couldn't really get into it. i know when you're starting out in today's snide internet culture you want to make a name

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good evening, everyone. breaking news tonight. a major arrest in one of america's most wanted criminals after a sting operation straight out of the movies. yet every single law enforcement source that we've spoken to outside the fbi -- and we've spoken to plenty today -- every one of them doubts it really went down the way the fbi is now telling it. we're talking about the arrest the number two man on the fbi's most wanted list, second only to osama bin laden. tonight he is in jail. james white cri bulger shown here with his girlfriend catherine grieg. legendary boston crime boss.

inspiration for jack nicholson's blood thirsty killer in "the departed". for years he ratted out his competition, others he murdered, tortured, allegedly. 19 in all according to authorities. and all the while, all the while while he was killing others his handler in the fbi turned a blind eye to his blood lust. in fact it was this same fbi agent who alerted bulger that he was about to be indicted, make sparking him to make a run for it in 1994. since then there have been bulger sightings all around the world. here in a rent-controlled apartment in a modest street in santa monica, california where agents arrested him last evening. he and his girlfriend were arraign today in l.a. federal court, agreeing to extradition back to boston. the fbi crediting his capture to a public service campaign, tv spots aimed at making grieg's face as well-known as her boyfriend's. >> on tuesday, june 21nd, just after 8:p.m. pacific standard time, a tip was received by the

fbi's los angeles office. the tip was generated as a direct result of the fbi's unique publicity campaign organized by fbi boston and fbi headquarters this past monday. as part of that campaign, the fbi paid for a public service announcement to run in 14 media markets across the country. those media markets were chosen because the fbi now knew that bulger grieg's had ties to those areas. >> numerous sources in legislatorsments tell us they have doubts that a public service campaign that didn't even run in los angeles could get results so quickly. drew griffin and producer david fitzpatrick have been talking to those sources. they say it stretches belief that government tv spots could get such a quick response. that's not all they say. drew joins us shortly with the details that may support two alternative theories of how bulger's 16716-year run finally ended. >> the international manhunt for one of america's most wanted men ended here in a non-descript apartment building just blocks from the ocean in santa monica,

california. federal authorities say the affable couple known as charles and carol gasko were in fact infamous boston gangster james whitey bulger and his long time companion catherine grieg's. >> we have -- >> bulger wanted in connection with 19 murders had been on the run since a corrupt former fbi agent tipped him off in 1994 to aim depending indictment. for more than 16 years, sightings of bulger were reported across the globe, from new york to oklahoma, florida to california. and in london where authorities say there was a confirmed sighting in 2002. whether or not bulger actually made the risky move of looefding the country and then returning remains unclear. local media reports indicate he and his con pan on have been living in the rent controlled santa monica two bedroom since the late 990s. officials say it was filled with hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash and weapons. the largest capture ever for

domestic fugitive, bulger was never a household name nation-wide. but in boston, whitey was a larger than life legend. foreuse the now 81-year-old irish mobster was a secret fbi informant, providing the federal government with details about the italian mafia, at the same time allegedly continuing his own murderous reign of organized crime. the question of where's whitey was one that many above theians thought would never be answered. some wounded just how badly authorities wanted to capture bulger given what had been described by some boston reporters as his unholy alliance with the liam