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republic. he once smooth talked his way into the cockpit where he was photographed sitting at the controls. on friday when he took a stab at this again, a security officer asked him his rank and he couldn't come up with one. he also couldn't produce his military uniform. i want to begin this hour with breaking news out of kabul la, afghanistan. this is what we're learning. i'm telling you as i'm getting it. the intercontinental hotel in the city of kabul has been attacked. a group of suicide attackers have attacked the intercontinental and fighting is going on between afghan security forces and the suicide attacks.
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zabula, the taliban spokesman has taken responsible beability for this attack. they attacked the hotel while there were international and national guests at that hotel at 10:00 p.m. local time kabul. as soon as we get more information on the breaking news, we'll bring it to you. i want to bring you up to speed on a couple other stories. america's most dangerous nukes. it is los alamos national lab in new mexico, and folks it is under attack right now by a ferocious fast moving wildfire. one other one i want to pass along, this is the scene in athens, greece. we're talking rock throwing, tear glass throwing. they're furious at their
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government for a desperate measure to save their country from failing. bulger wants taxpayers to pick up the tab for his lawyer. remember, the feds found and confiscated more than $800,000 in cash in bulger's santa monica apartment. most of it was stashed inside a wall and prosecutors say bulger has admitted to stashing more cash with people he trusts. but he won't name names. the feds are also detailing his 16 years on the lamb in court. these court papers that were filed yesterday, bulger claims he was bent to boston several times in disguise, and i'm quoting, armed to the teeth to take care of some unfinished business. bulger also told agents about going to vegas to play the slots. and he is saying he also went to tijuana mexico to buy some
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medicine. lucky for bulger he did not run into his old associates during those armed trips to boston. i spoke to a man who used to be an enforcer, used to run cocaine for whitey bulger back in the day. it's clear there is no love lost. watch what he told me. >> i have this dream that i have occasionally, it's a dream of me seeing him in the streets of new york, just bumping into him. and grabbing ahold of him and pulling him in to a building, and asking him why. why did he become an informant against basically myself and betrayed the code of silence? >> what do you do in that dream? >> in that dream i snap his
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neck. >> mike bellow, perhaps you've talked to red in your past covering the story, you're deputy editor of "the boston globe." you've been covering whitey bulger since the '80s. now we learn he wasn't exactly laying low on the lam. we want to talk about his court appearance here. he wants the government to pick up the tab in the form of a court appointed attorney. why does he want that? >> he claims he has no money to defend himself, because that $800,000 was taken from him, he has no money to hire a lawyer, so he thinks the federal government should foot the bill, there was a 15 minute hearing in federal court today where shelly murphy and maria kramer, it was a somber bulger that showed up. no outbursts in the courtroom, no talking to the judge. no decisions made on whether the feds will pay for his lawyer, two lawyers stood up, kevin -- a
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number of max stern and howard cooper's stood up and said they would represent bulger before the court, but the judge has to rule whether he is indigent. they put off a hearing until thursday to make some possible ruling. there was no -- so that was the big thing that happened today. and there was -- also some talk about leaks. the judge wants to crack down on leaks regarding the case from the federal investigators. and the judge asked federal investigators to make sure there are no leaks regarding bulger's statements and information. >> let me ask you about this other news item that's come down. the federal prosecutors are dropping the '94 case that led to the racketeering indictment. they're focusing on the charges alleging he was involved in 19 murders. are you surprised by that? >> no, i'm not. the 1994 case focusing more on
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racketeering, that appears to be small potatoes, compared to him involving or executing people orrding the executions of people this they want to have the victims have their chance for justice. they think that's the big case, and they want to focus on that. >> let's talk about the little bits and pieces we're learning about his time in hiding, where i guess he wasn't so much in hiding. according to these court documents, he went to tijuana, vegas, and he went to boston at least twice, at least in that first year on the run in disguise. do we know how he was disguised and what kind of unfinished business he was referring to? >> no. that wasn't revealed in any of the documents. he did make several trips to boston. we know he made two trips within the first year or so after he took off, there was a man named steven rakes who claimed to have seen bulger at the l street bath house in 1995. there was no verification of that. right now we don't knee why he
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came back to boston, we know he was heavily disguised. these were some of the bold statements he made to investigators on his way back to boston. no other information has been released on that. he said he went to las vegas and played the slots and gambled. >> and won a lot. so -- and he was going to tijuana to get heart medication, some type of medication he could get down there without a prescription. apparently he had a fake i.d., went down there, was able to walk across the border and get this medication in tijuana and then come back. >> he was getting some meds, winning the slots. final question, do we know in the days he's been in custody, has he been talking at all? talking to the feds? >> no, i don't think it's -- it's interesting, because his appearance today appeared to be totally different from the court hearing on friday, and the one on thursday. very somber, looking down as he left the courtroom. the situation is, he's encarcerated in plymouth, house of correction, where he's basically in solitary for 23
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hours a day. he gets an hour to come out and walk around and stretch. other than that, he's alone. it's not a very happy existence. and for the first ten days i don't think he can have very many visitors, although he's communicating with his lawyers. >> we'll be following this right along with you. what a case, whitey bulger, a very different bulger this afternoon in court. i want to remind everyone, we're paying close attention to the attacks in the capital of afghanistan, attacks on the intercontinental hotel. the taliban already claiming responsibility for the attacks and say they attacked this hotel while there were international and national guests at the hotel in the evening hours. more on that coming up. also this, the flames are high, the danger is close. and clearly it's too close for comfort. i'm talking about the los alamos national lab in new mexico. a fast moving wildfire is inching closer and closer, and is now within three miles of where several metric tons of
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plutonium and hazardous materials are stored. so what happens then? also, this -- >> the tough as things can get sometimes and as unfair as you think things might be, you keep doing the best you can. >> not a bad attitude for someone who was just convicted of corruption. rod blagojevich responding to his guilty verdict times 17 and the prospect of federal prison time. when an investment lacks discipline, it's never this obvious. introducing investment discipline etfs from russell. visit russelletfs.com r a prospectus, containing the investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and other information. read and consider it carefully before investing.
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strong winds on the way. here is the kicker. the fire has marched to the edge of the united states government's nuclear weapons plant right up to the edge. that's what they just told us. this is a place where we make nuclear weapons. this is the very place where they put together the first nuclear bomb. here's the deal, we're getting conflicting stories as to whether this fire poses a nuclear danger. you see is the smoke in this ireport? obviously, that is worrying a lot of folks that that may be contaminated somehow. authorities are saying, hang on, it's not contaminated, they're just taking readings to make sure. they're saying all this toxic material stored at the site is protected. certain watchdogs are saying that is not true. they say plutonium waste stored at the lab waste exposed to plutonium is just sitting around in barrels like these. tens of thousands of barrels. also these watchdogs are saying,
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the barrels could catch fire, split open, spew plutonium into the atmosphere. a lab spokesman is saying, no, these barrels are locked away in fire resistant vaults. we towned this very photo you're staring at on the website of a group called nukewatch.org, it shows these barrels right out in the open at the lab's disposal area, they call it area g. we're going to get to the bottom of this story, i will be speaking with tom udall from new mexico. he is right there in the thick of things. he's out there getting a briefing right now. he'll join me live next hour. we'll get some of this stuff cleared up. now this. this is the scene today in greece. all out fury over what the government is about to do, as in tomorrow. we'll take you live to athens coming up. and have you heard, sarah palin's got a big movie. how she is celebrating straight
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here's some of your top stories, first up, the jury heard from key witnesses today in the casey anthony trial, including george anthony and roy kronk, the man who found little caylee anthony's remains. and george anthony, father of casey, still denying any affair with a volunteer searcher. he denied ever saying that caylee's death was an accident and it snowballed out of control. meanwhile, and again, live pictures here. here he is testifying, this is kronk on the stand testifying earlier he attempted to alert police to an object he saw in the woods back in august of '08.
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according to the defense, kronk discovered the remains and hid them for monetary gain and claims he found her body months later. kronk denies those allegations. also, the board of the international monetary fund electing a new director. she is french finance minister, christine la guarde. she will be the first female director of the global lender. lagarde will be replacing dominique strauss-kahn who resigned last month. sarah palin is all the buzz today. it's over her movie, the pro-palin documentary, the undefeated will premiere tonight in iowa. the former alaskan governor will be there. what's the movie about, you ask? what does this say about a possible sarah palin presidential run? well, stick around.
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because joe johns is in pella and he'll give us those details next hour frms a glimmer of good news for those of you thinking about selling your house. prices are up slightly. this is is the first time prices have gone up in nine months. this spring buying season bumped up the numbers for april, the biggest gains in the 20 city survey were seen in washington, san francisco and atlanta. overseas to athens, greece. have you seen these pictures? i want to show you the center of the city. it is a mess today. look at this. you have furious protesters on one side, hurling rocks at riot police, you see all the gas, the tear gas. fires burning around the city too. it's chaos today in athens. thousands of people on strike showing their anger. why? they're angry over this government plan to raise taxes to cut spending, to raise the
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retirement age. and basically, it affects nearly all aspects of life in greece. from college tuition to taxes on cigarettes and gasoline. i want to show you what happened a short time ago. one of our reporters and cameramen were caught in the fighting between these two sides. watch this. >> as you can see, there's quite a lot of fighting now going on between protesters and -- we're being forced out of the way because it's really kicking off around that corner. the fire burning in the build i ing. >> obviously joe the cameraman going down there, diana magnate. before we talk about this story, are you and joe okay? a bit of a tense moment for you.
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>> it was kind of tense, and thank you very much. we are -- joe had to bandage up his knee, he's doing fine. i was here this time last year, when the first round of austerity measures were pushed through. at that point the crowds weren't as opposed to it as they are this time. we really have been targeted, not just with words, but a lot of camera crews having their cameras targeted this time around, because the protesters feel that over the last year they've been painted in a bad light by the international press. that's why i think we got the treatment that we did. >> you mentioned the austerity plan. let's talk about the protesters, they're rallying around parliament where tomorrow they focus on this five-year package of tax increase and spending cuts. what do you make of these protesters? are they more rabble rousers or
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is it a more unified voice there on the streets? >> it's a fairly unified voice across the whole of greece. but this new round of austerity measures, pension cuts, further wage cuts. further cuts to jobs in the public sector. 10% of jobs have already gone in the public sector. this new round of cuts is going to take another 20%. that's pushing the unemployment rate up to 16%. there is a real feeling in this country that the greek citizens are hurting under all this austerity, under all these cuts. they're going to have taxes hiked again, and they're going to have to look at a round of privatization. where the government wants to raise $70 billion, that means a lot of these public sector workers are going to see their jobs go if those state assets are sold off. everyone is feeling this. the mood on the streets is, we've already been put through enough. just because the european union and the iy back entirely.
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why do we have to go through this pain? that's pretty much the mood on the street. they don't have any answers, they don't know what to do about greece's debt burden but they don't want to go through any further cuts. >> diana, we'll check back in with you tomorrow. the day of this massive vote of the austerity plan. nearly seven months after a man shot her in the head, gabrielle giffords making her first public appearance, we will tell you what the ehaven'ts and the special person who brought her out. stay here. we're the wassman family from skagway, alaska. livin' so far out and not havin' a bank within 90 miles... i was runnin' into dead ends. happened to come across quicken loans online. [ chris ] walked over to the computer... i was able to see all the paperwork. while i was on the phone, i was able to go through the checklist.
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the astronauts on the international space station had to shelter in place for a short time today in the soyuz capsule due to a dangerous approach of space debris, this space trash got about as two football fields away from the iss. they are still investigating exactly what that space debris was. let me take you back here on earth, this is exciting. it's bittersweet for this group, this crew of four. the last flight readiness review of a u.s. space shuttle. it's all part of a series of checks they have to go through before the big launch of space shuttle "atlantis" next friday, july 8th. another batch of tests going on. if you can't tell, i'm kind of excited about this. i am a bona fide space geek, i
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was honored to have chris ferguson on this show. imagine how excited i'm going to be next week when i join my colleagues, anderson cooper and john zarrella live from kennedy space center for the launch. it's 11:26 a.m. next friday eastern time on july 8th, and our coverage begins friday morning 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. i'll see you there. also, semirelated space news here, gabrielle giffords, the wounded arizona congresswoman attended a nasa function last night in houston, and she appeared alongside her astronaut husband as he received a space flight metal. the congresswoman spokesman says it shows how clear giffords' physical strength is improving. she was released from the hospital two weeks ago. an update now on the man accused of shooting her and 19 others back in january. officials at the federal prison
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where jared laugher in is being held they're having to explain their decision to forcibly medicate this man. he's taking mood altering drugs against his will, and they're challenging the reasoning behind it. loughner was assessed as dangerous after several outbursts and attacks in prison. loughner in his current mental state is not competent to stand trial. one day after he was found guilty of corruption, former illinois governor rod blagojevich is speaking out. >> due to adversity and hardship can come good things. that's how i'm approaching this. >> he'll be hoping for good things, but prison time looking likely. up next, we'll speak with the only male juror in this case and ask him what it was that convinced him that blagojevich was guilty. you don't want to miss this interview. also, a remind he, we're monitoring the breaking news out of afghanistan where the
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convicted on 17 different counts of corruption, former illinois governor rod blagojevich now facing the possibility of many, many years behind bars. ted rowlands has been covering the trial for us at cnn. you were inside the courtroom,
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you gave us that excellent color after the verdict came down. we're here 24 hours later after the dust was settled. you caught up with blago this morning? >> i didn't. but some reporters that were camped outside his house did. he was leaving to take his daughter to algebra, he said. take a listen to what the former governor said the day after he was found guilty on 17 counts. take a listen. >> a lot of what life is is how you deal with your adversities, it's a true test of who you are, and an example to your children how you deal with the tough times. one of the things that motivates me and has motivated me and continues to motivate me and patti, is to show our kids as tough as things can get, sometimes, as unfair as you think things might be, you just keep doing the best you can, and dealing with the adversity, and through that adversity and hardship can come good things,
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and that's kind of how i'm approaching this, and we better get to school because she's got algebra for three hours. >> reporter: one of the things people will be watching is how blagojevich conducts himself if he addresses the court during sentencing, will he show remorse or continue to have this stance that he can't believe that this jury came to this decision? it could go a long way in terms of the sentencing he goes to the judge and says, i'm sorry, i admit it, it will give the judge an out to give him a lower sentence. right now if you do the math, he's looking at some 300 years, he's not going to come anywhere close to that. probably looking at between 6 and 20 years, depending on how this judge treats him. a lot of people are going to be watching mr. blagojevich when he approaches the judge during that sentencing hearing no, date has been set, he's free on bond until the sentencing hearing set later this fall. >> no date set yet. ted, thank you.
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want to tear away from chicago, we will be talking to the sole male juror on the jury. but right now i want to get back to kabul. there's been some sort of suicide attack in afghanistan at the intercontinental hotel. erin, bring me up to speed. what do you know. what happened? >> reporter: well, actually, what we're hearing right now is that there were three taliban fighters that were able to penetrate the hotel. one detonated on the second floor. right now there are several snipers on the roof who are firing at afghan security forces. backup has been coming pretty steadily since i got here a half hour ago. just about five minutes ago there were rpg's launched from the roof of the hotel toward the
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area of the vice president's house, the first vice president. and everyone is -- there are a lot of people fleeing the scene. i'm about 500 meters from the door of the hotel. but afghan security forces won't allow us to go any further. we're continuing to hear small arms fire right now. >> this is still an ongoing situation. i hear you, you're not too far from the front door of this intercontinental hotel? can you just -- bigger picture, how long ago did this attack happen? >> it probably started about an hour and a half ago, that's when people started first hearing the gunfire, reports were trickling in, and then about an hour ago it became clear that there were a number of suicide bombers that had entered the intercontinental and a battle was going on with afghan security forces. >> according to, and this is
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what i have here at cnn. according to this spokesperson, they've already come forward claiming responsibility for this attack, and they're answering a little bit of the why, i want you to add on to this. these attackers specifically targeted the intercontinental because there were prominent guests at the hotel. do you know anything more about who was staying there? who was at that hotel? >> reporter: actually, right now i don't. we're hearing reports that up to ten people have been killed. i don't know if they're internationals or afghans. however, the hotel is popular with both, frequented by foreigners who come to kabul as well as -- >> i think we just lost her, erin cunningham. you just heard her, that was incredibly significant. that's the first we're learning again, according to erin cunningham on the scene for us. saying ten deaths after this suicide attack in which the
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taliban has claimed responsibility at the intercontinental hotel in kabul. we'll work on getting more on that story. again, other story, chicago, blagojevich's retrial, we learned around this time yesterday, the verdict was handed down guilty on 17 of those 20 counts, and this retrial, the first one ended in a hung jury. you remember on all those charges except one. we have one of those jurors on the phone. we'll take to him on other side of the break. i'll ask him what was that one piece of evidence that to you said guilty. (screams) when an investment lacks discipline, it's never this obvious. introducing investment discipline etfs from russell. visit russelletfs.com r a prospectus, containing the investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and other information. read and consider it carefully before investing.
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let's go back to chicago, this was blagojevich's retrial, the first one ended in a hung jury and all the charges except one. what did this second jury here that perhaps the first jury did not? john mcparland was the only male jury, he was sitting with 11 women. he's now online with me now. john, so yunique to get to talk to you. 17 out of 20 counts guilty. did you try to make eye contact with blagojevich at all? what was his reaction? >> i was trying not to -- trying not to look at anybody. i kept looking straight at the judge. it's hard for me to study the people and everything.
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that's how i was even when i first walked into the courtroom for the first time. it was just -- i mean -- >> you were nervous? >> the counts called off. >> we know that the entire time mr. blagojevich maintained his innocence. when he took the stand, he's been on tv, radio, he wrote a book. how did that not taint your perception of him as a juror in this trial? >> i never really followed much of him. i'm not really into politics, itself. so i was just sticking to the facts of what i was hearing and what i was reading and -- >> so you were the perfect kind of juror that they wanted. what was john, the one piece of evidence that said to you, this guy's guilty? >> well, it's just, the
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wiretapping, when you're hearing things like, you know, this is fing golding and this is my type of thing -- >> referring to the vacant senate seat vacated by barack obama. that's what you're referring to? >> yes. it sounds like he should be getting something for all this. i mean, it's -- if they want this, give me that. and it's just the talking, the way i keep hearing the talking on the wiretaps. >> it's not hard to believe that it's supposed to be the opposite of what he really meant. >> they were arguing that it was nothing nefarious at all, and he was brainstorming for a possible next senator. i want to play you some sound, john. i don't know if you heard this. this was blagojevich after he
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left the courtroom yesterday. his reaction to the verdict and talking about how his family would react. listen to me. >> patti and i are very disappointed in the outcome. i frankly am stunned. there's not much left to say. i'm sure we'll be seeing you guys again. >> so he talks, john, about his school-aged daughters. did you or any of the ear jurors, the other women sitting around deliberating think, this guy's a father, has kids? maybe we should go easy on this guy? >> well, no, we were considering that. we felt sorry for his children especially, but we just kept our eyes on him only. on the governor, you know. he's the one being charged. and we had to throw all that aside and not even think about that. >> how long should he be sent away? >> i'm not really good at
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estimating that. but there should be some jail time definitely, years? you were the judge, what would you -- >> he wouldn't say 25, but -- i mean, i -- probably no more than five, but. >> you had a unique role here as a member of this jury. you were the only man out of what, 11 women with you? you were the only man, what was that like and what kind of role did you play there? >> well, i was more or less -- i sat in the back most of the time, because i'm a quiet guy. the ladies themselves, they were great, they were very thorough on everything. they took notes galore, like anything.
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they gave -- everything matched. i mean, everything was good, i mean, i was great -- >> are you happy it's over? ten days you're done? is it a huge relief for you? >> could you say that again? >> huge relief for you, sir? >> i am sort of glad it is over, though. i will sort of miss going downtown and everything, but i'm sort of glad it's over. >> thank you so much for hopping on the line and talking about your experience here. the only male juror, blagojevich, 17 counts guilty, thank you. >> you're welcome. coming up next, the hack job done for revenge. the hacker group gained access into arizona's department of public safety, exposing highly classified information, personal information about police officers, even their wives. now arrival group is hacking gechb.
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first, some free money advice from cnn's help desk. >> we get answers to your financial questions. joining me this hour, greg mcbribe and lynnette cox. she's the founder of the financial advice blog. holly in chester field, missouri says, my husband and i max out our 401(k) each year, we cannot contribute to a roth ira due to income limitations. should we invest in an ira or perhaps just a mutual fund? >> you can't invest directly in a roth ira because of your income limit. you can invest in a traditional ira, you won't get a tax deduction, but immediately convert that a roth ira. you'll have a minimal tax obligation and your future growth will be on a tax free basis. where it does get complicated if you have assets on a traditional
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basis. >> gino says i'm 70 years old and i'm retired, what's the best way to invest my ira with minimum withdrawals each year. i do not need the money to make my budge sunset. >> one thing i think people need to think about is a percentages of money you're going to withdraw on an annual basis. a lot of financial planners say a 3% to a 4% withdrawal rate is about right. so just as a guideline, they should look at -- within that range. the other thing, though, to think about, how much money you'll actually need. this person is probably in a good position, said, i don't need the money in order to make my budget. that means they have other cash set aside. that opens up a wealth of possibilities to you. maybe you can be more aggressive with this money and not be so conservative as folks would be when they're 70 plus. >> have a question you want answered. send us an e-mail any time. hey can i play with the toys ?
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we're going in depth, talking about the end of privacy this week. this is how computer hackers earned the anger of an entire
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state police department. members of a group got their hands on a pile of sensitive personal information about officers at the arizona department of public safety. and then posted that sensitive information on the internet for all to see. now, the arizona law enforcemenm with what has happened here. i want to go straight to phoenix and talk to the president of the arizona highway patrol association. this is jimmy chavez. thank you for coming on. sorry about the circumstances here. and i think i know the answer to this, but i just want to ask, was your personal information hacked or no? >> my personal information, some of that information was hacked and that was part of a bigger file that had a lot of other information on it as well. >> okay. i know this was a serious breach, probably some of the people you work with would say that's an understatement. without divulging anything, what kind of personal information was hacked and put out on the
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internet? >> well, obviously when you're talking about that information, it deals with password information into the e-mail system, officers, residents locations, phone number, that kind of information. >> also pictures? i think i read pictures of wives even, right? i mean, that -- >> yeah, and i have not reviewed or seen all the information that was released by this group, but i do dop understand -- and the agency is sifting through the information. they have the investigation ongoing right now. but i understand via some of the information, or some of the sources that i talked to that that did include some photographs. how detailed those photographs are, i couldn't tell you for sure. >> i understand one of the officers whose home address was leaked, he left his house. the point i'm trying to make is
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this is seriously personal, seriously sensitive information. it i want to get to the how and the why. we have an idea why. according to these hackers they did it because they're targeting dps because they're against racial profiling, anti-immigrant police state that is arizona. soo that is part of the why. but what about the how? do you even know yet? >> i don't know. as i said, the agency has asked for some computer forensic help from fbi and they're working diligently to try to determined to find out how they were able to hack into the e-mail system. unfortunately, it was only -- fortunately it was only to the e-mail system. there are other secure files that were not breached, fortunately, but still they were able to get some sensitive information out there and release it to the public.
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>> this has to be some kind of wake-up call. it's one thing for my personal computer to be hacked. it's quite another for, you know, a government department of public safety to be breached. what is the agency doing? you mentioned the fbi stepping in. what are you doing so this never happens again? >> we want to prevent this from happening again. we work very hard in the law enforcement community statewide over the last several years to try to add some protections for information, sfr information relating to law enforcement personnel. that includes some law changes that we've made over the last several years to help protect our identities a little bit more. trying to redact a lot of our information from public access. >> quickly here, what do you want to see to happen to these hackers?
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we know there was a whole other group. they called themselves the a-team. what should happen to these guys? >> well, obviously if their identities can be discovered, we've got some support from law enforcement community statewide, we would like to see these folks prosecuted. we do have some statutes in arizona they can be prosecuted for, for getting into the system as well as releasing personal information that belongs to law enforcement personnel. >> coming up next, wolf blitzer has your personal ticker. be right back. it's salonpas. this is the relief i've been looking for. salonpas has 2 powerful pain fighting ingredients that work for up to 12 hours. and my pharmacist told me it's the only otc pain patch approved for sale using the same rigorous clinical testing that's required for prescription pain medications.
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let's go to wolf blitzer with the latest now. talking a lot about iowa today. >> well, we should. the president of the united states is in iowa. of course, that was his great victory in the iowa caucus, really put him on the map as far as the race to the white house is concerned. as you remember, he was facing all sorts of democratic opposition to run for that nomination. he's back in iowa today. gave a speech on the economy. he's not the only politician, though, in iowa. sarah palin is in iowa. that's perhaps significant. she's there for the premier of this new movie about her called "undefeated." we'll see how that works. michelle bachmann was in iowa
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yesterday. today she was in new hampshire. iowa, almost the center of the political universe because as all of our viewers know, it's the home of the first caucuses in the race for the white house. democrats and republicans four years ago now are, just the republicans running for the nomination. doesn't look like the president is going to have any serious opposition for the democratic presidential nomination. one other note. ron paul, money presidential candidate gave a radio interview, did a radio interview and he was asked about bankruptcy, because there's all this concern that greece could go bankrupt, what could that mean. spillover effect here. he was specifically asked about that. he says, if bankruptcy is the cure for greece, is it also the cure for the united states? and he's very concerned about what's going on with the deficit. he said absolutely. it's causing a bit of a stir.
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ron paul is libertarian. he has his own views on what's going on. that exchange caused a little bit of a stir. brooke, ask me where i'm going to be tomorrow and thursday. >> i already know the answer. >> ask me, wolf, where are you going to be tomorrow and thursday? >> where are you going to be tomorrow and thursday, wolf blitzer? the world wants to know. >> i'm going to be in chicago. ask me why. >> why are you going to chicago? >> i'm going to interview the new mayor and on thursday i'll interview the former president of the united states, bill clinton in chicago, the cgi global initiative conference issic thatting place in chicago. it's the first time the cgi is looking at strictly a domestic economic issues here in the united states. i have an issue with rahm
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emanuel tomorrow, bill clinton on thursday and then eventually back here in washington. >> big week for you. have fun. >> thank you. >> we'll be looking for you. thanks very much. moving along, let me bring you back to speed. at the top of the hour, breaking news here out of kabul, afghanistan. more on that in just a moment. but watch this. right now, out of control flames are creeping faster and closer to one of america's most important nuclear labs. coming up, i'll speak live with tom udall about these urgent warnings and worse case scenario. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. he may have been one of america's most wanted, but he did not spend you would these years in hiding. find out what he did in vegas, mexico, and one trip he took is perhaps the most shocking of
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all. greece is on fire. >> a lot of fighting going on now between protesters. >> rocks, tear gas, molotov cocktails, even our own cnn kpru g -- crew gets roughed up. now there appears this fight over money could start a domino effect around the world. enemies or allies? which republican is stealing the thunder? joe johns is live in iowa. >> welcome back. we have two stories. one out of the afghanistan, one out of new mexico. we want to begin in kabul. the intercon nennal hotel in the capital city has been attacked. from what we're told, it is still you should attack. we want to go to a journalist on the scene in kabul.
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she's on the phone with me. and just bring me up to speed. tell me where you are, what you see and how many people have died. >> yes, right now i'm in the same place, a couple hundred meters from the door of the hotel. there were three very large explosions in the last ten minutes. there were two that were successive and then the third one that was the biggest. we're unsure what exactly it was. the security forces that were in contact with right now also don't know. the blast was so large that it almost knocked myself and my colleague off of our feet. there are reports that there are two car bombs driving around the city, and they are waiting to drive into the entrance of the intercontinental hotel and detonate as well. >> hang on. so you're saying somewhere on the streets of afghanistan,
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there are two car bombs. what is being done to stop them? >> right now, the afghan security forces are extremely tense. they are stops and searching almost every car. they are pointing their guns at the drivers. i'm not sure how effective all of this is, but it's extremely tense. and they're keeping vigilance over every vehicle that goes by. >> erin, are you safe? >> at the moment, no. no, i'm not. and actually, i will be leaving the scene in just a couple of minutes. >> hopefully you can seek out a safer shelter and still report with us. as you said earlier, multiple
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fatalities there. this is still a developing story. she mentioned two car bombs essentially with the mission of drive into this hotel. also according to cnn, we learned a taliban spokesperson claimed responsibility for the attack. this because there were national and international guests at the hotel. we're still working this story for you. i want erin to be safe so i want to move on. we said we would do the very best to get to the bottom of a potentially troubling story. and that is the potential nuclear sdanger at the loss alamos national lap. officials reported the fire has marched right up to the lab's southern border. they also say it's very close to the western border as well.
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the smoke, is it contaminated? we're talking about nuclear contamination. authorities say no, it's not contaminated and they say they're taking regular readings. here's the other concern here. waste exposed to plutonium. this is stored at the site in some of these barrels. a lab spokesman says the barrels are stowed away in vaults, but this picture you're looking at, these are barrels found sitting out in the open. we've also read that the barrels are stored in canvas tents, some folks are warning the barrels could ignite, split open and emit plutonium into the atmosphere. as promised, we are now joined by senator tom udall. he has been at the forefront of things really since the fire broke out on sunday. he is there at the scene. he, in fact, has been briefed over and over here. senator udall is on the phone. i really appreciate you joining me. but i want to just cut to the chase here. we know that these barrels
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containing plutonium waste, are they sitting out in the open? are they in these tents? or are they safe and stored away in some of these steel and concrete vaults as we heard a lab person say this afternoon? >> well, i think all of the statements that have been made are correct. but there is radioactive waste. it's waste that's been packaged over the last 11 years. the waste has been moved from this particular site to a site almost half a mile underground in salt beds down near carlsbad, new mexico. so the hazard has been going down over time. the thing you have to understand this is an area where they don't believe a fire could get to number one. the fire, as you heard the fire chief today in the press conference said we do not me
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believe a running fire could get to this site. even if it could, the county fire people are prepared, and the chief said this at the press conference, to immediately surround the site and cover it completely with foam. so you would have a protection from a foam encasing all of that. but they don't believe number one the fire could get there. number two, they're prepared to cover all of the waste with foam so that it wouldn't be able to escape or catch on fire. >> so clearly, they have plans a, b and c. you know this area very well. i was looking closely at some of the maps earlier today. and there's in area called area g. it's the place where most of the waste is apparently being stored. it's about five miles from the lab.
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follow the line diagonally to the bottom right. that's area g. there are other waste area sites there. perhaps one of them underground. are you aware of any other sites. are they also storing plutonium, and are they vulnerable to this fire? >> well, the area g is the one i'm most familiar with. that's the waste that's been packaged to be shipped to the waste isolation pilot project and to be put down in the ground, buried half a mile in salt beds that are 100 million years old and haven't showed any evidence of moving. in fact, when you put the waste down, it encloses it. the lab is in a position right now to continue after this fire is out, to continue shipping this waste down to the whip site and putting it under ground, as i said already.
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2/3 of it have been put out and they're going to continue on their schedule. but area g is an area that's been cleared. >> it is cleared so it's totally clear of any waste? >> we're not talking about area g where a fire would move through it. you're -- a forest fire needs trees in order to move. this is a cleared aer yeah where you have struck clurs, some of them are on canvas, as you have noted. they will foam and capture all of the canisters or however this material is packaged and cover it with foam. >> i understand. >> a very good solid firefighter group here. you will hear -- >> i heard from chief tucker. >> yeah, every day chief tucker is going to be at a press
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conference at noon. there's going to be a regular flow of information. nobody is hiding anything here. and i've asked that the epa move in. they're going to have a plane that is basically a flying air pollution monitoring lab and it's going to be flying over all of this area to see if there's anything being released that we don't know about. the state of new mexico, martinez is going to be doing independent testing. the environmental agency oversees the testing at the los alamos national labs. and the labs have a very capable testing unit themselves. >> i heard your briefing along
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with the governor, along with chief tucker. and speaking of the firefighters, i always think of the firefighters in instances like these when we see these massive flames here, wildfires. i just want to ask about these men and women having to fight this thing as it's encroaching upon this lab. how trained are they to defend these barrels that macon taken any of these wastes. even though the area is cleared, it still exists, it's still there. chief tucker is the one that's responsible for this area. chief tucker is a very experienced fire chief, he saw and learned what happened in 2000 and the previous fires. and they have modelled these things and are sdoing everything they can to be prepared if there's some kind of emergency
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situation where a fire might get anywhere near this. one of the things that can happen with a crown fire is go out and throw embers out, even in an area where there's not trees. if an ember landed on the top of one of these canvas tents, it would just burn a hole. it wouldn't start the entire canvas tent on fire, anything like that. they' done research on what kind of foam to to encase it, even if a fire was there. >> well, senator, this is your home state. i know you have stuck it out and stayed out there to be with those folks. i may want to call you up a little later this week if you're
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still around to catch up and check back in and see how the status is. deal? >> i would be happy to do that. happy to do that. and you all should feel free to attend the press conferences every day where the top officials have most of the knowledge here are going to give it out to you. >> you got it. we'll give chief tucker a call there as well. yeomans work there. >> thank you. you take care. >> now this. >> a lot of life is how you deal with adversities. it's a true test of who you are. and it's an example to your children. >> rob blagojevich speaking out hours after realizing he could spend years behind bars. but up next, you're going to hear from another juror who decided his fate. i'll talk to a woman who sat with the jury box. find out what she thinks of what blagojevich did. don't miss this.
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personal pricing now on brakes. tell us what you want to pay. we do our best to make that work. deal! my money. my choice. my meineke. rod blagojevich was convicted on 17 counts. we spoke to him just earlier today. >> it's a true test of who you are and it's an example of your children and how you deal with the tough times. so one of the things that motivates me and has motivated me and continues to motivate me and patty is to try to show our kids that as tough as things can get sometimes and as unfair as you think things might be, you just keep doing the best you can
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and dealing with the adversity and through that adversity and hardship can come good things. and that's kind of how i'm approaching this. we have to get to school because she has algebra for flee hours. >> the first trial ended up with a hung jury on 23 out of 24 different counts. >> i talked to your fellow juror a little while ago. i asked him a similar question. you were quoted as saying blagojevich is a pretty likable guy, but what was it that you saw or heard in that courtroom that said guilty? >> i think we did a really diligent job looking through all the facts, all the evidence. we looked at each count separately. for each count, we went back through the jury instructions, back through the legal terms through the notes we had taken.
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the tape recordings, testimony and really focused on just the facts even the evidence. we started out with a presumption of innocence and if the facts led us to a guilty verdict, that's how we found it. >> so john told me it was the wiretaps that said guilty to him. was there one piece of evidence that did it for you? >> i can't say one piece of evidence because i really think we made a concerted effort to not have it be just one thing. another piece of testimony, something that backed that up. >> take me inside the courtroom yesterday.
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he john said they just looked straight at the judge. what was the moment like for you? >> very nerve wracking. it's a heavyweight. you know your decisions are going to dramatically affect somebody's life. we try to not have our emotions play into that. so i know that i and many other jurors did not even want to look at rod or patti to see the emotions that might be exhibited. i wanted to kind of separate myself from that. i didn't really see any of the reactions. i've heard about it since then, but i would agree with john that my eyes were pretty steadfastly fixed on the judge. >> this was a quote from the secret recordings. he told jurors in his federal
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corruption trial that his definition of leaping golden was good things for illinois. what did that say to you? is. >> i'm a teacher and as i said earlier, i love the english language. i love written language, i love word crafting and i thought that was very masterful. i didn't believe it, but i thought that was a pretty masterful reworking of the original intent of that phrase. >> masterful as in manipulative, karen? >> yes. i don't think that's really what he meant. and i say that because we looked at all the evidence that supported that's not what he meant. and, you know, they had two years to think about how they would reframe certain phrases. and that was a good one.
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>> was there any moment during deliberations. did anything happen? did you think anything would break down? or did you come together pretty well? >> i'm really proud of what we did. we were a good team. we worked collaborate tifly with each other. there was never one moment of uncomfortable dissension in that room. there was disagreement, but we all laid the ground work at the beginning that all voices would be heard and listened to and then there was disagreement, we rested just on the facts. both sides of the decision would present what evidence and supporting facts that supported their point of view. and if at some point agreement could not be the made, the question was put forth, is there anything we could say or do to present to you that will change your point and the answer was no. we respected that. we worked really well together.
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>> thank you. and now this. >> as you can see, there's quite a lot of fighting now going on between protesters. we're being forced out of the way. because it's really kicking off around that corner. >> look at that. cnn's very own crew. protesters are battling police on the streets there of athens greece. the fight, all about the economy. coming up, why this chaos could spark a domino effect, one that americans could feel right here at home. we're going to go live to athens for that. plus, wait till you hear what greece is trying to sell in what many are calling an epic yard sale. that's next.
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>> in athens, greece, today, riot police tried desperately to keep protesters away from government buildings and it did get rough at times. i want you to look at this scene. utter chaos. angry people by the thousands throwing rocks, dodging tear gas canters, but let me just boil it down for you. here's the issue. the grief government is voting tomorrow to tighten the economic belt even more than it has already. higher taxes, higher tuition, higher retirement age, fewer government benefits. and people on the street, they say they can't take any more cuts. they don't want anymore tax hikes. i know it's nighttime and i'm still looking at pictures. i don't know if these are live or not, but it still appears that people are still in the streets.
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>> hi, fwrook. yes, these are live. you can see these fires dotted around the square. people are very, very angry. basically the parliament is debating whether to push through another round of austerity cuts. pension cuts, tax hikes. and the people as you can see are very, very angry about it. they've already gone through a year of austerity. they say they cannot take it anymore, that this government is basically being blackmailed by the european union and the imf who have told the greek prime minister that unless we get this new package of austerity measures through the parliament, they aren't going to give him any more money and greece will then go bankrupt. and greece has some maturing debt to pay back in the middle of next month.
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if it doesn't get the money to pay that back from the eu and imf, then the possibility of a greek default is very, very real. but you can see that the people on the street don't care about that. you know, when i spoke to them earlier, they say essentially, we feel bankrupt anyway, what can this do to us? the eu and imf are not our bosses. they don't have faith in their politicians either. and this scene you see in front of you is really the signs of a people who are fed up. they don't have solutions as to which way greece should go, but they say further austerity isn't the answer. >> i don't know if joe is behind the camera, but it was that shot, that wide shot, and what is plumes of smoke. you know, i initially thought it was concrete. people are running. what is going on down there? what's going on? what kind of explosion is that? >> exactly.
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>> first of all, the big bangs are normally stun grenades thrown by the police. basically they're very, very loud explosions to stun the protesters, to slightly blind them for five seconds or so, then they fire tear gas canisters into the crowd. many, many people out on the streets come prepared. the greeks are known for their riots. they happen quite regularly here. and certainly over the past year. so many of these protesters have come equipped with gas masks, with all sorts of -- they painted their face white to try and sort of counteract the effects of the tear gas. this is the first day of general strikes. you can expect thousands of more people in this square tomorrow when the government does actually vote on whether to push through that austerity program.
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i don't want to bet necessarily on these thing, but i would imagine we'll be seeing similar scenes tomorrow. >> yes, i would agree with your betting that the scene will only multiblie as that vote, as you mentioned, happens tomorrow. we'll check back in with you. look at that. with they are out there protesting. if greece is this mired in debt, how are they planning to take some of the pressure off? a kind of yard sale here. you saw the pictures. this is serious, serious stuff out of athens greece. what kind of yard sale are we talking? >> this is kind of a yard sale of a different type. greece is selling the farm. four air bus jets. the state lotto system. a national post office. thousands of acres of land, all in attempt to try to raise some cash, because what's happening
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is as diana said, the euro zone, the imf, they're offering this second round of bailout money if greece approves these tough austerity measures, but whatever money greece winds up raising it's less money the rescuers would have to pony up. the problem is these things have been up for sale for a while and so far no takers. but greece really has little choice but to keep trying because it has so much debt. >> i want you to explain how this could create a domino effect. you mentioned some rescuers having to pay up. how does that affect, you know, us here in the u.s.? >> yeah, if if greece defaults, you know, the biggest weight on the market would really be the fear of the unknown. it could trigger a trickle down
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effect. the reality is greek is not a huge economy when you think about it, but you could really cause a ripple effect around the world. >> i have this dream that i have occasionally. and it's a dream of me seeing him in the streets of new york, just bumping in to him. in that dream, i snap his neck. >> what is one of whitey bulger's former mobsters. after years on the run, living as america's most wanted yuj tif, he has just appeared in court and he's asking us for a
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>> you know the deal, if it's interesting and happening right now, you're about to see it. take a look at this motorcade that carried alleged boston mobster james whitey bulger back to court just a coup of hours ago. bulger says he doesn't have any money and wants you, the taxpayer, to pick up the tab for his lawyers. i spoke to mike bellow earlier today about what happened during the 15-minute hearing. >> it was a somber bulger that
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showed up. no outbursts, no decisions on whether the feds will pay for his lawyer. >> the judge warned -- the judge is cracking down on loose lips. he says he doesn't want anyone to leak any information they get from bulger. iran's military says it successfully test fired 14 missiles today as part of the so-called great prophet six war games. iran has also built its first ballistic silos capable of launching long distance missiles. back here to the u.s., the dream act. the legislation, if approved would give legal status to children of undocumented immigrants if they intend college or serve in the military. the obama administration is pushing for the passage of dream act. republicans said they want more
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border security in exchange for their support. this is the second time here, the second shot at the dream act. look at this closely. a massachusetts teenager falling 20 feet after tumbling over the land rail of an escalator. he admits he had been drinking. listen. >> i was drinking before the concert. and then i obviously got too drunk and way too irresponsible. >> amazingly, he's okay. but he will be wearing a cast on his elbow all summer long. nearly five pounds of cocaine stuffed into the soul soles of several pairs of shoes. they were found in some abandoned luggage last week. they were looking for the owner. the bag arrived from the dominican republic and the drugs
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had a street value of more than $100,000. in shoes. down but not out. homeless people taking to twitter and other social media websites to connect with their community. one woman became homeless last year and she says she understands the value of networking on social media. >> of. >> it is the way people are finding housing. it is the way people are finding food banks. >> many homeless are reaching out for work, connecting with friends and family. and sometimes just trying to find a place to sleep. >> police on alert across the country as concerns grow of a possible terror attack right here in the u.s. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function,
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>> all right, developing right now, a new warning about a possible terror attack inside the united states. the sfeds telling police across the country to remain individual genten co-certained terrorists may try to hit the u.s. this summ summer. we're told there's no specific intelligence, but the feds are reminding authorities that al qaeda is interested in attacking u.s. tarts on symbolic dates like the fourth of july. homeland security warning, the death of osama bin laden may also inspire a lone wolf to attack.
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>> we sarah palin is going to be out and about today at the screening of the documentary called "the undefeated." palin is going to join a couple hundred folks to watch the film there. talk to me about the hustle and bustle and how people feel about palin coming to town. >> get a load of crowd here. people are very excited. it's exciting, i guess you have to say. there's a lot of buzz speculating about sarah palin's future. we've got a clip to show you. >> the first 90 days of the
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palin administration were insane. >> unlike other states, the governor of alaska is the ceo for the state. >> so one of the questions obviously is about this movie and whether it's so complimentary to the fact that it's pretty much almost a press release for pair ra palin and her political aspirations. i talked to the producer of the movie about it and here's what he said. >> we're not going to have $25 million of print and ad money. we have to get earned media. the place to do that is in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina, where all this media is focused and there's really no story to tell. we're going to give them a story. >> he's using it as a vehicle to
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try to sell the movie, which is his business, and certainly his right in this environment. and we'll see what sarah palin says. she's seen a rough cut of the movie, we're told and not the final version and this will be her opportunity. >> i just want to make sure i'm hearing that correctly. she's going to announce she's running in iowa. >> well, we don't know if she's going to run. you remember her bus tour not very long ago, this is, i guess, the next it ration of that. talked to some of the people out here in the crowd and why don't we just listen to what they had to say about the possibility of sarah palin running. >> i know a lot about her.
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>> do you think shi cease going to run. >> i definitely believe so. >> do you want her to run? >> absolutely. she's a woman of confidence and she has her head on straight, definitely. >> would you like to see sarah run? >> absolutely. i think she's got knowledge that she could run this country. she wrote the book about american -- knowing america. the second book. and i think she knows america. so the voters here in iowa are very smart. it's the first in the nation's caucus state and that's sort of after reflection of the things you get on sarah palin. she's got a lot of negatives and also a lot of people who support her and some people who don't know. >> so as you were watching out for the arrival of sarah palin, i can't help but ask you about another female republican. sarah bachmann officially announcing.
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but again, she's catching some flak for misspeaking again. this time it's about john wayne versus john wayne gacy. please explain. >> she's born in iowa. she knows john wayne was born in her home state of iowa. and rather than going into all of it at first, let's just listen to what she had to say and i'll talk about it on the back end. >> i want them to know that john wayne was from waterloo, iowa. that's the kind of spirit i have, too. >> turns out, john wayne the movie star was born in winterset, iowa. and the thing that's embarrassing for michelle bachmann is that another john wayne, john wayne gacy who is best known as a serial killer was best knoorn in waterloo.
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because she's made so many embarrassing gaffes, it's the kind of thing that people remember. >> well, she's been getting a lot of high grades lately. when you do well, the scrutiny just is amped up. so there you go. >> right. people like her. >> yeah, yeah, people do. joe johns enjoy pella, iowa. the intercontinental hotel has been attacked in kabul. we're now just getting our first images of the chaotic scene. we 50e8 share that after this quick break.
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>> we are getting new information on a breaking story, a still smoldering hotel in the capital city of afghanistan. twl's been multiple attackers. i want to go to barbara starr. just tell me what you know. do we know yet how many suicide attackers we're talking about here? >> every we have spoken to, they say these are the initial reports they're getting from the field. things could change for the coming hours. they blooe the intercontinental was attacked by multiple suicide bombers wearing suicide explosionive vests.
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they don't know how many at this point and they can't really say. i think we're seeing some of the first images before the bombing. they tell us the first indications are, tlerp ten people killed at the hotel. they do not think there were any official americans. they don't think there were any u.s. military personnel or u.s. diplomatic personnel. they've started a nose count tonight in afghanistan. they want to make sure all their personnel are accounted for. right now they're making sure. there are a small number we're told on the scene at this hour giving some assistance. that's pretty interesting, brook.
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afghan security forces are supposed to be able to handle whatever comes. they're supposed to be charge. you rarely see support forces in kabul. if they're on scene, this may kb even more serious than the first indications are. we expect information to unfold all night long, brook. >> ten fatalities, multiple suicide attackers, barbara. please continue working your sources. and i just want to remind you, we are literally getting tape as i speak feeding into us here. some of the images of the intercontinental hotel. we've got people working quickly on doing that. we'll bring them to you live. now this, a family affair in the casey anthony murder trial. her father, mother, brother, all taking the stand today in orlando. and the questions get personal. but perhaps the most significant witness today, the man who found little caylee's remains.
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bundling and saving made easy. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >> the man who found kay caylee anthony remains got hammered on the stand. roy cronk testifying about finding what looked like a skulg skull in the woods near the anthony home. sunny is on the case. we know in his opening statement, the lead attorney made it clear the defense was going after roy cronk, calling him a morally bankrupt person who took caylee's body and hid it. let's watch this together. >> you will not be able to trust a thing having to do with mr. cronk because he had control of caylee's remains for obviously several months.
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where he found her, we do not know. nor will we ever know. >> so sunny, jose baez, defense attorney there trying to make cronk look like a bad guy. was he successful at doing that? >> i don't know if he was successful. they really neededed a home run. i think they got more of a base hit basically. they got him to say some interesting things because his story is a bit curious. he called 911 three times in august and no one responded and he calls again in december, december 11 of 2008 and he does find her remains. everyone else was searching in the act same place. his story was curious. they pointed it out. did they make him look like a morally bankrupt individual?
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i don't think they can say that. >> first here, let's listen to cindy anthony. >> prior to december 2008, did you tell your son lee anthony that ed sent dominic casey and/or jim hoover to look for casey with a video camera? >> i never told anybody that i sent those guys there because i never sent those guys there. >> okay, now here is lee anthony. let's listen. >> did you go to our parents' home? >> yes, i did. and then you got there did your mother tell you anything about sending dominic with a video camera to suburban drive. >> objection, hearsay. >>

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