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how did she get to the top of the business world? >> i wanted to be a business person. i wanted to go all the way. i wanted to be on the cover of forbes magazine. >> tonight, bethenny frankel. how she made it big one skinny girl as a time. >> i feel if you take a sip of the margarita, you will -- you won't have any guilt. >> maybe we should go out on the town. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >> linda hogan knows all about the down side of marriage to a powerful man. she was married for 24 years to hulk hogan. she tells a story of that marriage in a new book. linda joins me now. it's a fascinating book. he's a fascinating character. my knowledge of the hulk is even in britain he was -- this guy was huge physically, on television, as a box office star. how would you sum up marriage to the hulk? >> well, we were married for 24 years, and, you know, it was

great. honestly, i never dreamed that we would end up having the lifestyle that we did. when i met him, he was in the "rocky 3" movie and i thought he was an actor playing a wrestler because in california back then wrestling wasn't even on tv, and i didn't know what it was. i was like you wrestle? like what is that? but, you know, soon after we started going out. we got married and i went on the road with him, and i learned. i realized what all was involved, and it was -- it's quite a job. i mean, especially working with the wwf. that was a huge empire that, you know, became even bigger, and it was rock and roll. it was like being married to a rock star. >> and, of course, as the book details, his behavior became pretty similar to that of most rock stars. i mean, let's be brutally frank. you had to go through the infidelity, the lying, control issues an all the rest of it. very similar to the kind of stuff you read about the average rock star. it's a very honest book you have written.

do you feel that the relationship basically floundered the moment you heard he had been unfaithful to you? >> yeah. i mean, honestly i put my heart and soul into the marriage. we started out with, you know, nothing really. i met him, i didn't know what he did. he really wasn't famous. he had been in the "rocky 3" movie, and i thought, wow, that's exciting, but i saw a good person in him in the beginning, and i still do today. i just think with the men in those positions as like you're seeing in the news how with the politicians and all these celebrities that it just happens to them so easily. it's just -- it's there, it's in their face. so the first time that he had an infidelity and admitted that to me, it was earth shattering to me. >> why did he tell you? >> well, in my opinion i think the reason that he had to tell me was because the woman that he was philandering with had filed a lawsuit against him, and it

was probably about to be public, and i think that if he had me on his side, that they could roll it out as extortion like a lot of these celebrities do. i knew differently. i knew that it wasn't, but i knew that he needed my support. we had two small children. we had just gotten done building our beautiful dream home in florida, and you think at that moment, you know, okay, maybe it wasn't all his fault. maybe a lot of it was her fault, and -- >> if you're honest when you had seen other famous people get caught up in a scandal like that and the woman stayed with the man, what was your view of women that did that before it happened to you? >> before, you know, i hadn't been in that position, so i just figured that publicly they were staying with their man because of usually politicians is what you heard. now it seems like it's so celebrity driven, but i really

feel that it was just something they would probably do because they were in the public eye until they could sort things out and come out with a public decision. >> how had you always been in your head if he had ever admitted cheating on you? can you thought i would leave him? >> well, you know, not normally. i think we talked about that in the very beginning and i told him, look, if marriage becomes a ball and chain thing let's agree to disagree we're going to go our different ways. it didn't happen that way, it was secretive and at that point you realize your husband has had an affair on you, whether it's one time, whether it's six times, whether it's one person or six people, the same process applies, and you feel duped. you feel your esteem is down, you don't know what to believe. you don't know how much of what he was telling you all these months and years up to this point that you found out, yes, you have had your suspicions, as i did, in prior years, but it

all becomes very real. you're like, wow, maybe my suspicions were right. although i don't actually have proof. >> how many other women do you think there probably were? >> you know, just a rough guess i think there might have been three or four, but, you know, that's just my guess. like they find out with sandra bullock and everybody that there's 30 and 40 behind the scenes, i think once a cheater, always a cheater. although i did think that, you know, because he was so good to me, he was a great father, i thought maybe this was just -- maybe he's going through the change or, you know, you tend to as a mom and a wife, you tend to want to keep this together. this was an empire we built together. >> yeah. >> i wasn't so willing to completely throw it down the toilet. i thought i love my husband. i want to make this work. i don't know what happened. maybe it's me. you start thinking maybe he found someone smarter or thinner or prettier or, you know, richer or younger, i don't know. you don't know, but everything -- you doubt everything about yourself, which is really unfair because -- >> did you have days when you wish you were still with him?

>> oh, yeah. i mean up even until i filed the divorce. i was scared to file for divorce. he's an icon. he's loved by millions of people and has been and still is. he's -- you know, he's done a lot of good things for the kids and been a role model for a lot of people. he's a great father. he was a great husband. i don't know what caused him to make the decision to go elsewhere, but he did. that's a decision that he's going to have to deal with. >> does he regret it do you think? >> i think he does. i do. >> has he tried to win you back? >> you know, because we were going through so much stuff with the divorce and then, of course, my son had that tragic accident, and there was just a lot on our plate to sort out, and i think that he had already moved on to a new girlfriend by the time i had filed for divorce. i realized he had already had a girlfriend, so i thought, well, there's no room for me anymore, and i begged him though even so, i said it was christmas and i said, please, you know, for the

kids' sake for just -- 24 years, you know, please put your ring on and please come home. i'm willing to forget everything if you are, and he said i need more time. so the next morning i asked him again, i said, terry, i love you. i don't want to throw this away. i'm sorry for everything. whatever i have done to contribute to this, you know. cheaters usually do blame their spouses for their actions. >> of course. >> and i said i didn't even care, and he said again that he needed more time. and i realized at that point that his i don't knows meant no, and i said, well, then i guess i know what i have to do. so -- >> even as you're telling that i can see you're sad about it. >> yeah. >> you wished maybe in that moment when you were prepared to forgive him -- >> the door was closed, and it was kind of sad but i mean, you know, yeah, you think like, wow, my marriage of 24 years is just -- it's gone, and i

remember driving down the street looking at my hand on the steering wheel and i didn't have my ring on and i remember thinking to myself, it's just been so a part of me, you know, being a mom and a wife and just a house and we have parties and things. not seeing the ring there i felt like a loser. i was like loser, you know. i just felt like, wow, i can't even keep my marriage together, what's wrong with me? >> is it ten times worse when it has to be conducted in the public eye because you're with a famous guy? >> it really is. i never had a public platform. i was always happy being behind the scenes. i was just the wind beneath his wings. he was just so confident and so terrific at what he did that, you know -- but there's a lot of cleanup behind the scenes that, you know, just being married to such a famous guy, my god, just to go to an awards show, the schedule, and then you have two teenagers, you know, and then a reality show, although it was fun doing the show. it was just a lot of work on my

behalf to keep everything glued together, make sure they got the right clothes, who is watching the dogs, who is going to take care of the house? >> now that you don't have that circus, i can tell probably part of you misses the circus. it's one of those things, isn't it, it's fun and exciting and all part of being with someone like hulk hogan. there aren't many of him, are there? >> it was phenomenal being married to him. i never realized that would happen to us. but we had the american dream. i was the wife, we had the beautiful children. they were successful. we had a tv show, we had money, we had the house, we had boats, cars. it was just everything you could dream of, and then, you know, when the marriage went out and the divorce started proceeding along and then my son's accident and he went to jail and my daughter lived in miami, and i remember we took my son to court and that day they took him into custody, which was just so crazy because my dad is a policeman -- >> hold your thought there

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to my guest linda hogan. in the middle of this terrible stuff with terry you had a hammer blow. i want to go over the facts. it was the evening of august 26th, 2007. nick was traveling to a steakhouse in terry's yellow toyota supra and he crashed into a tree in downtown clearwater in florida. the passenger, a friend of his, was ejected from the car, and the injuries he sustained are expected to leave him in a nursing home for the rest of his

life. so a very serious incident. you were in california when this happened. the pictures there really awful pictures. nick was driving on a suspended license reported to have been drinking, and in the book you detail getting back to florida and trying to piece together really exactly what had happened here, and you rang terry. tell me about that conversation. obviously, this is an awful moment for both of you. >> yes. i mean, it was just shocking. i was in california when i got the news, and my husband called me from the crash site and said that nick had been in an accident and his friend was in the car and i said, is he okay? he said, i don't know, they hit a tree. i just know from every other situation when that happens that it's not good. and i said, is he okay? and he said, i don't know. i said, is he dead or is he alive? and he said, i don't know. and at that moment i just fell to the floor. i was home alone and it was a couple days after my birthday, and i just -- i mean, i was just

numb. i just felt the floor -- i couldn't even think straight, the thought of that. i didn't know who the passenger was at that time. john was like a second son to me. we've known him for seven or eight years. he's just a good friend of nick's, just a little car buddy. they like to work on crank bolts and stu on the cars in the garage over at the house. they'd have sleepovers and whatnot, a nice kid. it was just an accident. a terrible accident. it was raining very hard. he had not taken that car out ever before to my knowledge and -- >> do you blame terry for the fact that he took the car out? >> you know, i'm sure terry trusted nick, but he should have maybe thought a little bit more about the conditions, the fact that the boys were jet skiing all day and they were out in the hot sun. it was hot in august. it was, you know, sweltering heat, and i don't know if he really thought about the fact that it was raining. you know, nick on a suspended license wasn't supposed to drive

past dark and at the hour they left it would have been dark when he was driving home. so i still question that, but the fact that they hit the puddle, the car had very wide tires, and i think in my opinion of what happened is nick was an excellent driver. he would do nothing to jeopardize his position with drifting and dodge. >> but he shouldn't have been drying. >> but he should not have been given the keys and allowed to drive himself. >> he wasn't legally allowed to drive. >> you shouldn't have taken the car out at that time so he's responsible and -- my husband is responsible and if there was something i could have done, if i could have been there to change that, absolutely. >> nick was charged with multiple violations. he pleaded no contest, he got eight months in jail. for any mother that's an awful moment when you son goes to jail. how did you deal with that? >> it was actually shocking. i mean, i don't really know too many people that have been in jail. i don't think there's too much you can say about it when your son actually gets incarcerated and we're in the courtroom and i

see them put cuffs on him and i'm thinking, oh, my god, he's a good boy, why is this happening. i wish people could know nick better and know the real nick. i wish they realized what good friends he and john were and that it was not a street racing accident and it wasn't a reckless or negligent situation. >> what is john's condition now, do you know? >> john, i believe, is now out of the hospital and he's home. his mom takes care of him, and i don't really know what his actual condition is, but i know that he's not able to speak or walk, and i live with that every day. nick lives with that every day, and -- >> do you have any contact with his family? >> i don't. there was a situation where the media was just so blown up. we lived in clearwater. it's a very small town and the situation like this with a celebrity was big news there, and we couldn't even go to the hospital. we couldn't go anywhere, to court.

it was just a circus side show for the pr, and i think they got tired of having that there. they just wanted to be private and stay to themselves and i don't blame them. >> an awful situation though. >> yeah. they didn't really like it when we came to the hospital and stuff. it was just too much of a side show, unfortunately. >> and again the circus of fame. you can't turn it off. >> exactly. >> once you're in there, nothing you could do. you wanted to be respectful but you just couldn't do it in a normal way. >> right. it was just impossible. so, you know, with that, you know, i mean we live with that every day. nick is trying to rebuild his life. >> how is he getting on? obviously an awful thing for him. >> it's hard because he's obviously lost his good friend. we've moved. he was in jail when he was 17, and when he came out six months or seven months later with the divorce going on at the same time, you know, i had moved out of the house and his dad wasn't there. his dad had a girlfriend, and, you know, i was barely at the house. i was kind of tossing around

between houses that we had figuring out where we were going to be, and, you know, he had no home. he came home and it was just -- everything was just in an upheaval. he was sort of displaced. i just remember the day, and i talk about this in my book, when we left the courtroom that i was leaving without my son and that he was in there and that brooke got in a car and drove back to miami where she lived. she was filming her show with vh1. i had my mom with me. she was heading to the airport and i saw terry get in the car with his girlfriend and they left. and i got in my car and i drove myself home, and i was crying so inconsolably on the way home just the shock of that and i walked in the back door and it was dark and it was quiet, and i got to the kitchen and i saw the chair that terry used to sit in and have his coffee in the morning and i saw a house that was a happy household that had

love and animals and life that at that moment i realized it was never going to be that way again. that nick was never going to come home and brooke wasn't coming home and terry wasn't coming home and my mom wasn't there and my dog had just been run over in the driveway a few months prior, and it was just too much emotion to bear at the moment, and i remember i couldn't even make it up to my bedroom. i left -- i had my court clothes on. i got in my car and i was crying so hard i was making a weird sound almost like some kind of an animal and wailing sound. it was just such an inconsolable grief that i was suffering. i just couldn't go home, and i remember just driving south. i got to this bridge that's near our home, and i thought, my god, i don't want to kill myself but the thought did occur. i thought about my two kids, and i realized that at that point i didn't want to kill myself but i didn't know how to live either. you know, i didn't know how to handle all this. god gives you a lot, he takes away a lot, but i was like all at once? it was just too much to bear, and, you know, i got a phone

call, and it kind of shook me out of my trance or my sadness that i was in and thank god. i was able to go home and try to get a handle on things, but, yes, it really was difficult to get through. >> let's take another break. when we come back i want to talk to you about how you did manage to get back on your feet in a surprising manner.

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back with linda hogan. linda, it's been at rough ride talking to you so far. the book does then take more surprising turns. first of all, another rough hit i think is when your daughter, brooke, calls you at 4:00 a.m., she's crying, and she tells you that one of her friends, christiane, is now going out with terry, your recently departed husband. how did that make you feel? >> well, that was a blow. that was definitely a surprise. you know, although the last year that we had been in miami we had

brought -- we brought the vh1 show to miami for kind of a fresh change. they'll do that. and the whole year that we were down there, we were there really primarily to do the show and brooke had a music deal down there. so one of the girls that worked at the music place was her kind of right-hand girl, would travel with her sometimes when i couldn't go and her name was christiane. she would come over and spend the night even though she was 33 at that time or 32, a little older than brooke. but she got along great. she would spend the night and i would bring them hot chocolate and tell stories with them. i'd give her a kiss good night, give brooke a kiss good night. you know, i did have a weird sense that maybe something might be going on, and i asked brooke and she said, mom, no, don't be crazy. are you kidding? we're a good friend, no way. okay. took it out of my head. i must be crazy.

brooke called me and said, mom, you're never going to believe this, you were right, you were right, and i said what, what? she said are you sitting down? i was like, oh, god, what's wrong with you? and she just said dad was having an affair with christiane, you were right. and i said how do you know that? she said, i found out through one of my friends and it's true. she gave me a letter. she talks all about how she's sorry and this love affair they had couldn't be denied and blah, blah, blah, and i was like are you kidding me? >> that was like a final kick in the teeth. >> well, it was just -- you know, i had been through it once already, and, you know, once that i knew about. there were times that i had already thought maybe it was going on, but i wasn't a stranger to that. but the worst thing was dealing with poor brooke because it was her friend, and to think that her dad could be -- >> yeah. >> -- doing that behind her back where she's confiding in the friend and the friend is telling her dad everything. it was just almost like --

>> double betrayal. >> you don't know what to believe anymore. so brooke was very upset, and, you know, but the point is that she had a contract with vh1 as well as did her dad and they had to try to make amends and make things work. so in her way maybe it was just easier to go, look, mom, can't deal with you right now. i have to deal with dad and do my show. we really didn't have a lot of communication that first year and i let her go. i let her find her space because i felt that she has to get through this her way and as far as mine, it was almost kind of like i knew it. it was kind of like, okay, i knew i wasn't that crazy. >> this might be wrong of me but the bit in the book -- it's a bit like one of those rocky films where you're just willing you to get off the ropes and do a better punching and i cannot think of a better way really -- i know this might be wrong of me to think this -- that you begin dating a 19-year-old lad called charlie. yes.

part of me was thinking exactly that, checkmate, right? >> you know, girls do all different kind of things when their man wrongs them. they'll throw eggs at their house or tp their house or whatever. >> he's like a young hulk, isn't he? >> yeah, he is. actually, we started out being friends. i was -- it was the weekend before they took nick into jail and i was just walking on the beach with nick and saw this guy, and i said, god, that guy is hot. it's been nine months since i filed for divorce. i have been pretty alone, and maybe he'd just be kind of fun to have over and have for some tea or diet coke. >> did you fight being called a cougar in the tabloids or did you quite like it? >> charlie was really smooth, too. he told me he was 23, okay? so i was -- >> well, that's already. >> when i found out he was 19 i'm like as long as your 19, not 17, we're good. you're legal. >> how does terry deal with charlie? >> he doesn't really like the idea. >> of course.

>> and to this day terry still won't speak to me. we can only talk to each other through our lawyers and i don't know why. i'm sure that one of the reasons is that he doesn't want to have to be where we get chummy-chummy and i'm like, so tell me why did you really go with christiane. how was that? i'm not going to do that to him. at this point i'm over it, i have moved on, and i have a great life now. i knew i wasn't happy before, and i think that's one of the messages that i bring out to the book is that richer, poorer, that he is so many women out there that just -- that have this same scenario as i do, that have kids, that have been married a long time, that have to stop and realize the carpet has been pulled out from under their life and they're 50 and they have to start over. >> i think good on you. after all you've been through, you're entitled to a bit of happiness and if it comes in the form of charlie hill -- how old is he now? >> he's going to be 23. >> people label me a cougar, but

i don't see myself as that. >> and the kids are okay with it? >> my kids love him. >> it ended happily. linda, i'm pleased for you. >> thank you. >> i enjoyed meeting you. >> we reached out to hulk hogan about claims regarding the car accident and multiple infidelities. he declined to comment. in his book he said, linda's suspicion, scratch that, her belief that i was cheating was like a hole way down in the hull of a ship. no matter what i did or said to try to patch that hole, the water would keep breaking through. as far as i am concerned, until our marriage was almost completely over, i never cheated on linda. coming up, how bethenny frankel went from tv star to the top of the business world. my sit down with the $100 million woman who created the skinny girl empire. at bayer, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief.

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tonight a woman who is redefining having it all. bethenny frankel is on stoppable. the one-time real housewives of new york star has her own reality show now, bethany ever after.

she's a businesswoman with her own skinny girl brand and she has a new book "a place of yes: ten rules for getting what you want out of life" and bethenny joins me now. we met before. >> we did, on the "today" show. >> you came on and you were just showing me these cocktails you had come up with. i was like whatever. these cocktails then became this, the cover of forbes magazine, $100 million deal from the skinny whatever -- what was it? >> it was the skinny girl margarita originally. now it's a full line of cocktails -- >> unbelievable. >> it is unbelievable. >> when you see that, what do you think? >> i think it's legitimate, it's validating. i have always been a business person. i went onto reality tv as a business decision. i already had a platform and this is where i wanted to end up. i used to say i want to be on the cover of forbes magazine. >> if i saw my head there i wouldn't think all that. do you know what i'd think? >> what? >> back of the net. a soccer phrase.

it's an amazing achievement. i don't want to be patronizing about this but a few years ago you were a chef and you were doing a bit of this and a bit of that. you may have dreamed of this but a lot of people dream of this. to have some so fast to where you've got to is truly remarkable. >> it is. it's remarkable, and it really is about -- it is about coming from a place of yes. i have had so many people tell me no. so many people in business tell me it isn't going to happen. it even happens now, saying no. you have to believe in your ideas. you're alone in your ideas because you're the only one who knows what's possible. i went all the way. i worked really, really hard. i make good decisions. you make all the right moves. you don't come into the store and grab everything you can. you just make smart decisions and you stand for something. >> the book is call "a place of yes." it has ten rules and i want to quickly go through these because i'm fascinated by this. number one break the chain. what do you mean by that? >> what means is i don't have to be the type of parents that my parents were. i don't have to do what someone

else told me i was supposed to do. it's more for other people also. women and -- women have parents who think they should marry young or live their life a certain way. break the chain is living your own life. you have to decide the life that you want and not what people say you're supposed to want. >> you couldn't have come from a much worse upbringing in terms of the parenting you received. >> i could have come from a worse upbringing there. i'm working right now with the children's health fund about children who can't get proper health care and clorox is donating money for, you know, children to be able to get proper health care and i think about my child and if she weren't able to have proper health care. i mean, there are -- it could have been much worse. >> it wasn't easy though, was it? >> it wasn't easy. >> in terms of this rule, break the chain, what is the key thing you need to do to break that cycle? because i often see people on this show who have suffered some kind of neglect or lack of love or some form of abuse and it definitely affects them. it's very, very hard to break that chain. how do you do it?

>> you're right, first of all, it is difficult and it affects me and my life and my relationships now. it has come with me the whole life, the childhood i had, the lack of parenting, it has. but i fight to intervene in my own life. it's my nature to run from relationships because i have never seen a good one. so instead i intervene and i stay in relationships and i work on my relationship with my husband and i go to therapy. so breaking the chain is just deciding the life you want to have. it's about going forward. it is about coming from a place of yes. i can have my life be whatever i want it to be. >> number two is find your truth. what do you mean by that? >> find your truth is about what you really want. i used to think that i really wanted a man to take care of me because it seemed like the easiest road. i could just marry someone and it would be easy. but the actual truth was i really didn't want that. i wanted to be a business person. i wanted to go all the way. i wanted to be on the cover of forbes magazine and i wanted all this and it was hard because i was in my 30s and i was crying and i didn't have a man, i didn't have any money, i didn't know where i was going to end up and i didn't know the end of the story. i didn't know i'd be talking to

piers morgan on tv. >> act on it. >> it's go for yours. with skinny girl margarita everyone -- every liquor -- >> do you like margaritas? >> it's a number one cocktail in the country for a reason. every woman wants to drink it. >> when you ordered one in a bar is it huge pressure on the barman? >> it is. usually the bars now carry the bottle of skinny girl margarita so i don't have to worry about it. acting on it is going for it. when i came up with that idea everyone said no and i decided to keep going. all the liquor companies said no, they weren't marketing to women. i said i'm a woman. it solves a problem and i'm going to act on it. i'm going to make it happen myself. you have to make things happen on your own. >> is dealing with rejection a key part of becoming successful in the sense of how you deal with it? >> dealing with rejection and i'm going to be totally honest, it's a key part because you have to plow through it and it also

makes the success so much sweeter because you remember the people that said no. you do. and you get that little, you know what? if i had listened to you i would never be here. it's just -- you never assume anyone is smarter than you. they could have a better job, be more wealthy. it could be your travel agent, could be your doctor. >> separate from the pack. i like this one, too. >> well, to be perfectly honest this came into my head when i was in the housewives. bravo is a network about affluent. i was not affluent. people were buying diamonds and getting facials, and that's what we were supposed to do together. instead i said, no, i'm single, i'm alone, i can't even pay my rent. this is who i am. so i separated from the pack. i just -- i had to be who i was, and that's how i developed my relationship with my fans. instead of pretending i had a house that was going to be foreclosed on. >> we'll take a short break. when we come back we have three more of these rules i want to discuss with you, then i want to get stuck in you about this whole skinny business. >> okay. [ slap! ]

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let's get back into these rules, bethenny. number eight, own it. >> own it. >> is that as simple as if you have a great idea like you had, own the idea, make sure it's yours? >> no, it's stand for something. it's stand for something. i can tell you exactly what my entire brand, what i'm doing with my life in one sentence. >> go on. what is it? >> it's practical solutions for women. it's solving problems, and everything that i do adheres to that line, and that's what i stand for. and i'm not going to go do something that doesn't, you know, coincide with that. >> come together. >> come together is about being in work or being in relationships and being in a situation that isn't normally comfortable for you. i'm with my husband who comes from a very traditional background. the family is very close. i don't have family, but we come together and the sum is greater than its parts.

doing things together, me being hope to his parents and his way and him being open to my way. same thing at work. working with people you don't want to work with. you just have to sort of come together and the sum is greater than its parts. >> the final one celebrate which a lot of people forget to do. >> i have to do more of it. i get invited to all these fancy parties. it's not about that. it's about taking a bath with my baby and husband, a bubble bath on my birthday. it's about we dress up for pandas on halloween. it's just about making the most out of the little things. >> let's get to skinniness. the whole concept. >> skinny girlness. >> you're selling this multimillion dollar fortune on skinny. you want every woman to go i want to be skinny. >> i want people -- >> bethenny frankel is a woman to get me to where i want to get to. >> i want people to feel good about their bodies and to be fit and to realize you don't have to diet, you don't have to obsess. >> you went through all that, didn't you? >> i went through all that and i was 25 pounds heavier and i wouldn't allow myself to eat anything. i'm giving women a way to allow themselves to indulge, to eat,

to drink, to be merry and still fulfill their goals. >> why not call it vibrant girl. the vibrant girl margarita? >> i'm not loving it. >> you don't think it will make as much money. but i prefer it as a message, don't you? i don't want to be overcritical. >> i can take it. >> you're a ballsy lady and i admire you. to get where you got to is incredible. i just have a slight issue on a brand based around a word that you yourself slightly recoil from. >> and i understand that, which is why it is skinny girl and people say it as one word now and don't really even think -- i have never really had people say to me that you're promoting skinny because it's all shapes and sizes, and if you look at my fan base, if you come to one of my tours, this isn't a bunch of like robot size zero women. there are women size 12, across the board. it's more of a lifestyle. seriously maybe you should take a sip and you'll start to feel like it.

if you take a sip of sceny girl marguerite that you won't have any guilt. >> maybe we should go out on the town. >> i'm game. >> have a few skinny marguerite thats. >> and being able to promote women living a lifestyle where they don't feel guilty. >> can a man order a skinny girl? >> a lot of men do. >> pretty embarrassing, right? woo hu. can i have a skinny girl marguerita? >> if you're comfortable with your sexuality you will be comfortable ordering a skinny girl marguerita. you clearly are the no. >> certain bars in new york if you put your hand up and order it you get thrown out. >> a lot of men drink it. selling the company is allowing me to give back, give to the children's health fund and clear rocks give to children who can't get healthcare. i couldn't pay my rent and now i can donate to charity. and now i can nourish children who we don't want to be skinny.

>> very laudable. let's have another break. when we come back i want to talk to you about two relationship periods in your life. one when you were young with your parents which was pretty dysfunctional and the one you have now with your child and husband which seems pretty functional. >> okay. i'm ready. >> would you say so? you name it.

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>> i would say i bethenny frankel. you just smiled. so far i've had this severe businesswoman. >> really? >> running through this machinelike way you've developed into the forbes cover girl. i like the lighter side of bethenny frankel. >> thank you. there's a big light side, yeah. >> on the darker side, pulling you out of this abyss of laughter, it cement seems when

you study your story i suspect one of the reasons you have this ferocious drive was the odd upbringing you have. you talked about it frankly. your your mother was pretty disfungal. had eating disorders and alcohol chol problems. your father disappeared. you went to l.a. with him and that was it and that was the end of your father-daughter relationship. what kind of a fate if you're honest with yourself do you think it still has on you that you have to go through that? what do you fight? what are the demons that come with such an upbringing? >> >> i have a difficult time trusting people. and mother so -- actually i'm very trusting, i just don't like to let a lot of people in. i have walls up that -- i don't like to let that many people in close. and if someone does kind of do something distrustful, i really kind of cut them off. it's -- that's the way i've been. i think i've had to really, really work to be in a

successful relationship. i mean, business is really easy for me. being in a successful relationship takes work. i want to be a good partner. i want to take care of my husband and make sure that he's getting everything he needs because he chose someone like me. >> does it cause any difficulty in a strange way with your husband when you see him showering love on your daughter? that you never had that? do you ever have that feeling? >> >> i just love how much my husband loves my daughter. it doesn't. i don't connect the two. i don't connect the past to the present. i did from my stepfather john i did get love. i think when i was younger to the time i was four my real father did give me love. the story goes that my mother wouldn't stay with him and took me away and that's why he resented the whole situation. there are a million different stories. >> once you're a businesswoman and you've got the cover of forbes magazine, then what do you do? >> you give back. >> what's bigger than this? >> what's bigger than that? maybe having your own talk show, being able to have a conversation with women that exceeds 140 characters on

twitter. i like a bunch of women in the audience to talk about their issues, money issues, marriage issues, sex issues. >> is there anything you can't do if you put your mind to it? >> no, there's not. i don't think i could keep quiet for five minutes. >> that i can believe. and who do you most admire out there? >> who do i most admire? that's a great question. >> what's the nearest thing to a role model in the business world perhaps that you've watched? >> i admire people like warren buffett that are donating so much money to charity, that they're being selfless about their money and the whole fund that he's created. >> would you donate 95% of all your money? >> i haven't thought percentages. i have a certain amount of money that i've decided that i'm putting aside every year and i think that that will grow. and that's the goal. >> tens of millions? >> yeah. i want to give back a lot. but also i've given money before.

i want to give in time, too. i want to get invested in something. i really do. now i have a baby. and when she cries, she is the best life and i realize she doesn't even have a reason to crime. there are babies that are crying for real reasons. and really that is why i got involved. that is why i got involve the in the children's health fund with clorox. it's children that can't get healthcare and it speaks to me. i used to think i wanted to do healthier food in children's schools. now i want to do more with babies. >> well i've got huge admiration for you. it's an amazing thing you've achieved. bethenny, nice to see you again. >> nice to see you. >> tomorrow night i sit down with one of the most beautiful women in the world. charlize theron. you know she's smart, you know she's talented. here's something you may not know. connection to the royal family. >> tell me about you and princ harry. >> he does great work in africa. we're going to try to do something together. that's really what that was. it was unbelievable how that introduction turned into some