sprouts. the expiration dates from between june 22nd and july 13th. three people have been hospitalized, but no deaths have been reported. i will be back at the top of the hour with more live news for you. here on cnn saturday morning. first, are violent video games violent for young people? we look at the argument. it is time for the good doctor. >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta. as a dad, i was curious. would you let your kids play something that looks like this? i wanted to show you something you may have never seen before. death rates. a nearly 48-hour endurance challenge. it is very extreme. i'll show it to you. we know the rock band kiss, but paul stanley was actually born deaf in one ear. we will hear his story.

we begin with an interesting turn in the case of jared loughner. in jail, he has been receiving anti-psychotic medication. he doesn't want to take it. his lawyers asked the judge to force him to stop taking it. it is a fascinating situation. we have jeffery tubin with us. we have been talking about this in the past. the judge says this is in the hands of his doctors, primarily. how does it work? can prison doctors hold loughner down and force this medication into him? >> the defense has one goal. to keep him from getting executed. that is the only goal. at the moment, he has been found not fit to stand trial. as long as you are not fit to

stand trial, you are not getting executed. the status quo is pretty satisfactory to the defense. the problem here is that the medical authorities are trying to get loughner better. they are giving him drugs. they are treating him the way any severely mentally ill patient would be treated. that may get him sane enough for trial and thus, excuse. the defense is trying to keep the status quo and not get him cured so he doesn't get executed. >> jeff, thank you. for the psychological aspect of the story, we turn to jeff gardier. he has been following the story. jeff, let me start with your expertise on this. what is wrong with loughner? what medication is he taking? >> specifically, dr. gupta, what we do know is he was examined by

two psychologists. he has schizophrenia. a total break from reality. i'm not sure what medication they may be giving him. it is an anti-psychotic medication. i'm not sure if it is an oral medication or injectable. >> you have done work with the bureau of prisons. people have been talking about this idea of forcibly medicating him. what does that entail? is that literally strapping him down and forcing him to swallow something or injecting him? >> normally what they do is that they will try to convince him to take oral medications. if he does take it, they will ensure he swallows the medications. if he refuses the oral

medications, they will give him the injectable. they will use a minimum amount of force in order to hold him down so that he is not a danger to himself or others as he is being injected with this anti-psychotic medication. >> jeff, a lot of people in the health care field have been asking me and talking about this issue. it is a dual-loyalty issue. you are treating him to make him better, but he will stand trial and may get the death penalty as a result. is this a conflict, do you think, for these doctors who are treating him? >> i think the doctors that are treating him in springfield, missouri, at the federal facility there, they are not thinking at this point about trying to get him well to stand trial. what they are doing is just making sure now that he has been deemed to be a danger to himself because he did have

administrative hearing back in june and began medicating him around june 21st. they want him to be more stable and less of a danger to himself and a danger to others. he is homicidal. >> it is a fascinating case. there have been precedence for this thing. obviously a lot of people following along. jeff, great to have you on. an fda update for avastin. >> i never thought in the united states i would have to beg for a drug that is keeping me and many others alive. please approve avastin for the treatment of the disease? what if i was your wife or friend or sister? >> you know. it is such emotional testimony. the panel gave avastin a thumb's

down. they say the benefits are not worth the side effects. the final decision lies with the fda commissioner. avastin is approved to treat other cancers. that will not be effected whatever the commissioner decides. i want you to look at the graphic video games. would you ever let your kid play something that looked like this? would you even know if they were? there are permanent effects of video games on your child's brain? ♪ ♪ look at that car, well, it goes fast ♪ ♪ givin' my dad a heart attack ♪ [ friend ] that is so awesome. ♪ i love my car [ engine revving ] [ male announcer ] that first chevy, yea, it gets under your skin. ♪ really? 25 grams of protein. what do we have? all four of us, together? 24.

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we are back. this week, the supreme court struck down a california law banning the sale of violent video games to children. this is a case that balances free speech rights with consumer protection. lots of questions about this. joining me are two women with different opinions on the ruling in san francisco. we have jane mcgill who is the author of "reality is broken." why games make us better. and in los angeles is wendy walsh. she has been on the show before. works a lot with children. thanks for joining us. let me start with you, wendy. i know you disagree with the ruling. you say video games, violent

games, can be harmful. >> in some ways, video games can be catharsis. for teens and the developing brain, think about it. how do we shape behavior? repetition and role playing. now these children and the studies are showing that the average number of hours that a teen boy or girl is 13 hours a week. they tend to have more aggression at school and lower grades. we are training aggression through these games. >> there are so many studies. jane, you have a different take. simply starting, do you think these games can be harmful? >> i do think the research shows that if kids are playing games more than 20 hours a week, there

could be negative impacts. the most important thing for parents to understand is fewer than 20 hours a week or less than 3 hours idea has been shown to have a host of impacts of confidence and problem-solve abilities and if they are playing games with parents, improving relationships. they are happier. >> does the type of game seem to matter, wendy? we have been showing images throughout the show that are violent. does it make a difference? >> of course it makes a difference. this is really about the gaming industry looking for a younger market. the average age of a gamer is getting up in years. the average age is 37 now. giving mature content to teens is dangerous. a 13-year-old boy cannot legally purchase a picture of a topless woman. he can become a character who gags or tortures her and murders

her as long as she is topless. does that make sense as a father? >> i know. what do you say about that, jane, about the type of game? it could have benefits. does the type matter? >> the type does matter, but what i would encourage, wendy and parents to look at, is research showing the benefits for young people playing scary or violent games. not games that are rated "m" for mature. violent games like "halo" or "call of duty." the benefits seem to be a lot of release of stress and depression and hostile moods. >> these games have always been available. >> right. >> what the supreme court decided to do is let mature content be available to minors. that is a different ball park. >> mature content has always

been available if parents choose to allow that in their home. if you allow me to finish about the positive benefits because parents need to understand the importance of allowing young people to have safe spaces to master and dealing with feeling like anxiety and anger. there is a great stud friday massachusetts general hospital where more than 1,200 young people playing games. there is significant positive impacts to playing scary themes because of the violence because it allows young people a chance to become masters of the emotions. we know that young people have extreme emotions. it is better to have them dealing with them and learning how to cope with them in a game rather than the real world trying drugs. this is a safe space to become masters of their emotions.

>> stay tuned. we will talk more about this in the future. thank you for joining us. from virtual violence to real life pain and suffering. this is fascinating. the extreme challenge of physical and psychological stamina. you will put yourself to the test.

as you may know, i'm trying for the new york triathon. i started doing this when i turned 40 last year. i heard about the death race challenge. as a starting point for the obstacle course, they say your time doesn't matter. you simply have to make it to the finish line. bruce allentuck is a contractor in clarksburg, maryland. he is not putting these logs in

anyone's yard. he is 46 and an accomplished triatlete. >> i carried truck tires through creeks and packs of sand. 30 or 40 pounds of sand. >> they say pay attention to the river. >> joe created the death race. for one weekend every summer, he and andy turned the countryside into a test of will power. >> a lot of people thought they could have been a navy s.e.a.l. or in the tour de france. >> it is an extreme test and can last 30 hours or more. you have to think quick on your feet. and in past races, competitors learned greek phrases and split

wood and crawled under barbed wire. from year to year, it is never the same. >> there is a serious risk of death in the event. >> i understand. >> with those words, and whatever bruce can fit in his pack, including the mandatory axe, the first leg of the race begins. >> every person has to lift each rock 150 times. >> the task is to lift 100,000 pounds. they are each individually lifting rocks and rotating to the left. >> a half hour? . >> 14 or 15 loops an hour. >> that is ten hours. >> they going a little slow. >> seven hours in and only one person has dropped. 144 men and ten women are still lifting rocks in the middle of

the night. after 75 loops, bruce is not sure how much longer he can go on. >> honestly, i'm not sure i will get through the other half. i did not count on all of this repetitive lifting. it is not my strength. these rocks are over half >> we are all meeting right where i am after you clean up jur pile, put it around your pipe and your hay bail and we're headed out. >> there's a raging river and we had to walk upstream. it was complete dark. there was no moon that night. it rained pretty much from the beginning of the race. >> reporter: almost three hours later, bruce reappears. >> and when i saw what was next, i knew that pretty much right away that my day was done. i would have trouble with that

next challenge. i'm done. the task was to pull yourself across on a rope, still carrying your pack, come out of the pond, go up a 50-degree slope, muddy at this point. >> reporter: for the next two days through rain and sun, the stronger persevered. ultimately 45 hours after it all began, 35 athletes were left standing. by then, bruce was already back home in maryland, but he doesn't see defeat. >> i would love to have gone further, i would have loved to have finished. but i was proud of where i got to, i was proud of getting to the race and being there. >> reporter: he lives to race again. now bruce says he would like to head back to vermont next year and give it another go. would you do that? yikes. good luck, bruce. take a look at this guy over here. recognize him without the makeup? that's paul stanley, born deaf in one year, but also part of

the one of the most successful bands on the planet, kiss. how did he do it and what do kids think of him nowadays? ♪

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bee happy. bee healthy. sound like the ultimate oxymoron, a musician, famous one, who can't hear at least out of one of his ears. that's the reality for rock star paul stanley since the day he was born. the kiss frontman was inspired to overcome his own disability in part by helping others. >> come on and clap your hands! >> reporter: to rock and roll all night. and party every day. that's always been paul stanley's dream. >> if somebody had told me at 58, 59, i would be running

around on stage without a shirt, you know, and tights and high heels, i would have said what drug are you taking? >> come on and love me! >> reporter: but the road to rock stardom as the front man for kiss was difficult. few people know it, but stanley was born with a condition that should have steered him away from music. >> i had a physical deformity called a microshia. >> reporter: one of his inner ears that convey sound to the brain never developed. figuring out the direction of sound was particularly challenging and he was also born with an underdeveloped outer ear. did you get teased a lot? >> it was horrible. i have to say that childhood was not fun. >> you decided to grow your hair out. that's become such a signature look of you and the band. was that in part because of wanting to hide your ears? >> absolutely. >> you grew your hair out to do that? >> absolutely. >> reporter: strength, and a bit of defiance, got stanley through

the taunting. >> something told me inside that i could do music and, interestingly, being deaf in one ear, was not something that i saw as a hardship or something that was a hinderance at all. >> reporter: but eventually off stage, hearing loss did become a hindrance so stanley had surgery. >> you take a power drill and aim into the head. >> reporter: surgtsry was successful, but it does not equal self-acceptance. that, stanley learned over time, and by working with kids. >> you talk to kids who have micro shah, so right now they're like mr. stanley, i'm the one getting teased on the playground, i'm not the rock star. >> how cool it is for them to hear somebody say, i was there and look what i did. you can get through this and you'll find out how much something means to you by how hard you're willing to work to overcome it. joaquin became a part of our

fit nation six-pack he wanted to get back to the basics, change his life, become fit and his inspiration was his son and three young daughters. they inspired him to kick his habit of soda and fast food and do something big, start training for the naughty ka new york city triathlon. he's leaner, faster and healthier than he's ever been before and joins us from outside his home in orlando. good to see you again. you look great. we've had a chance to catch up a few times. knowing how close you are to your kids it's amazing that one of the biggest breakthroughs you experienced in this challenge happened on father's day. tell us what happened, specifically. >> yeah. on father's day weekend, i entered a dueath lon, for viewers that don't know what that is, it's kind of like a triathlon except limited to two sports, a run, a bike and a run at the end. and it was an amazing experience because it was the first time i

got to really test myself with all the training i had done and i learned a lot. >> one of the things i've talked about and talked about with you and others, when i decided to do a triathlon it changed my life in ways i could not have imagined not just in terms of fitness and health but in other ways as well. what has all this training and commitment done for you? >> i mean, that's a tough question to answer right now in this limited time. it's done so much for me. i would have to say, the major -- one of the major things it's done is really to make me feel good about the example i'm setting for my kids because they take a big interest in what i'm doing. they ask me about my training and really, it's helped me feel positive about all aspects of life from work to home to, you know, just really helps mentally a lot. >> joaquin, i'm proud of you. you're doing a good job.