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tv   Sanjay Gupta MD  CNN  July 3, 2011 4:30am-5:00am PDT

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person in front of you. that's something a lot of people mistakenly do. >> that drives me crazy. nicholas, last thing, i have to let you go. we teased this. what if the person next to you is chadty, they want to talk? >> give them nonverbal signals. put one of your ear buds back in to show you'd rather be watching cnn on in-flight. pick up your book or magazine. it shows you'd rather be doing anything. i'm back with you at the top of the hour. the good doctor starts right now. coming up on today's program, the supreme court weighed in on violent video games this week. but as a dad i was curious, would you let your kids play something that looks like this? i want to talk to xpertz.
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i also wanted to show you something you may have never seen before. it's a 48-hour endurance challenge like no other. it's extreme. we all know the rock band kiss but did you know paul stanley was actually born deaf in one ear. we begin with an interesting turn in the case against jared loughner. the young man charged with shooting arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords along with nearly two dozen others. he's been receiving antipsychotic medication in jail and he doesn't want him to take it. his lawyers have asked for them to stop forcing him to take it. jeffrey toobin joins me. the judge seemed to say this is in the hands of his doctors primarily. how does it work? can prison doctors hold loughner
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down and force this medication into home? >> the important thing to recognize is the background here. the defense has one goal. it's to keep jared loughner from getting executed. that's their only goal here. at the moment he's been found not fit to stand trial. the status quo is actually pretty satisfactory to the defense. the problem here, is that the medical authorities are trying to get loughner better. >> right. >> they are giving him drugs, treating him the way any severely mentally patient would be treated and that might get him sane enough for trial, thus execution. >> the defense is trying to keep the status quo,.
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>> thank you so much. we turned to jeff gardere, also in new york. what is wrong specifically with loughner and what medication do you think he's taking? will it make him competent do you think to stand trial? >> specifically, dr. gupta, what we do know is he was examined by two psychologists and a psychiatrist in may. he found he had schizophrenia. in other words, hallucinations, delusions, a total break from reality. i'm not quite sure what medication they may be giving him. it is some sort of antipsychotic medication. i'm not sure it's an oral mcor an injectable psychotropic type of medicine. >> people have been talking about this idea, forcefully medicating him.
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>> yes. >> what does that entail? forcing him down to swallow something or injecting him? >> normally what they do, they will try to convince him to take oral medications. that will be the first step. if he does take them, they'll make sure he swallowed the medications. if he refuses to take the oral medications they will give him the injectable antipsychotic medications. they will use a minimal amount of force in order to hold him down so he is not a danger to himself or others as he's being injected with this antipsychotic medication. >> a lot of people in the health care field about been talking to me and talking about this issue. it is a dual loyalty issue. you're treating him to make him bet r better. is this a conflict do you think for these doctors who are treating him?
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>> i think the doctors that are treating him in springfield, missouri, at the federal facility, medical facility there, they're not thinking at this point to get him well to stand trial. what they are doing is making sure, no that he's didn't deemed to be a danger to himself, because he had an mrtative hearing back in june, june 14th, i believe, and began force medicating him around june 21st. they warrant him to be much more stable and less of a danger to himself and others, because is he homicidhomicidal. >> always great to have you on. we have an update on the food and drug administration about avastin. this say drug for advanced breast cancer. >> i never thought in the united states i would have to beg for a drug that's keeping me and many
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others alive. please approve avastins is a treatment for my disease. what if i were your wife, your mother, your sister, your friend? and what if i was your grammy? >> such emotional testimony that was heard there. despite all that, the advisory panel gave avastin a thumbs down. studies show it does not make women live longer. this vote isn't binding. the final decision lays with the fda commissioner. avastin is also used to treat other cancers. that won't ab effected. take a look at these graphic video games. would you let your kid play something that looked like this? we'll talk about it. but nothing's helped me beat my back pain. then i tried this.
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we're back. this week, the supreme court struck down a california law banning the sale of violent video games to children. this is a case that balances free speech rights with consumer protection. lots of questions about this.
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joining me are two women with different opinions on the ruling in san francisco. we have jane mcgill who is the author of "reality is broken." why games make us better. and in los angeles is wendy walsh. dfr psychology. she has been on the show before. works a lot with children. thanks for joining us. let me start with you, wendy. i know you disagree with the ruling. you say video games can be harmful. how can we protect our kids? >> in some ways, video games can be catharsis. for teens and the developing brain, think about it. how do we shape behavior? through repetition and role playing. now these children and the studies are showing that the average number of hours that an adolescent boy place games is 13 hours a week, a girl about 5
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hours a week. those kids tend to have more conflicts with their teachers, more aggression at school and lower grades. we're actually training aggression through these games with the developing brain. >> there are so many studies on this, the supreme court cited a lot of these studies as well. jane, you have a different take. do you think these games can be harmful? >> well, i do think the research shows if kids are playing games more than 20 hours a week, there can be negative impacts. the most important thing for parents to understand is fewer than 20 hours or week or less than 3 hours a day has been shown to have a host of positive impacts on problem solving abilities an confidence, and improving the relationship if they're playing games with parents. >> does a type of game seem to matter, wendy? some of these games, we've been
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throwing some images, they're violent. does it make a difference? >> of course it makes a difference. this is about the gaming industry looking for a younger market. the average age of a gauger, a is 37 now. giving mature content to teens gets them adiktd early. right now in america a 13-year-old boy cannot legally purchase a picture of a topless woman. oh, but he can become a character who kidnaps her, gags her, tortures her and murders her as long as she's not topless. does this make sense to you as a father? >> well, it's funny. i have three young children. i'm thinking about this more than ever before. what do you say about that, jane, in terms of the type of game? >> the type does matter but what i would encourage wenty and parents to look at is recent research sew showing the benefits plafing scary or
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violent games, not the gory ones or the really extreme ones. but halo or call of duty. the benefits seem to be a lot of relief of stress, depression and hostile mood. >> but these games have always been available. >> right. >> what the supreme court decided to do is let mature content be available to minors. that's a whole different ballpark. >> mature content -- no, mature content has always been available if parents choose to allow that in their home. what i would like -- if you'd like me to finish about the positive benefits. i think it's important that parents understand the importance of allowing young people to have safe spaces to learn how to master and deal with feelings like anxiety and anger, which through a study at texas a & m showed. there's a great study that came
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out of a university. they are saying there can be positive impacts with scary themes or violence. it allows them to become masters of thee emotions. young people have extreme emotions. it's better to have them dealing with them and learning how 0 cope with them in a game than out in the real world having reckless behavior, trying drugs. video games is a safe space to become a master of those emotions. >> stay turined. jane, wendy, thanks so much for joining us. from virtual violence to real life pain and suffering by choice. this say fascinating thing. i've been interested in this extreme challenge of physical and mental stamina. we'll take you to the death race.
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training for the new york city triathlon next month. it's part of our fit nation challenge. i started doing this when i turned 0 last year. then i heard about the death race challenge. as a starting point for this extreme obstacle course they say your time doesn't even matter. you simply have to make it to the finish line. bruce allen tuck is a land escape contractor in clarksburg, maryland. but he's not putting these logs in anyone's yard. bruce is 46, an accomplished try athlete and now he's training for something called the death race. >> when i started out i was carrying a log through the woods for as long as i could, sometimes six hours, six miles, whatever, carried truck tires through creeks, packs of sand 30, 40, 50 pounds of sand. >> just pay attention to the way you're using the river. >> reporter: one weekend every
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summer, this man and andy weinberg transform the countryside into a true test of will power. >> a lot of people dream, they think they could have been navy s.e.a.l.s, they could have been in the tour de france or this or that. here's your chance. >> reporter: you have to think quick on your feet. in past races competitors learned greek phases, split wood and climbed under barbed wire. year to year it's never the same. >> there it is, my man. >> do you understand there's serious risk of possible death associated with this possible sports event. >> i do. >> understanding these risks do you still want to participate in this event in the. >> yes, do i. >> with those words and whatever he can fit in his pack, the first task of the race begins. >> basically every person has to lift each rock 150 times. >> task one is lift 100,000
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pounds. they're individually lifting rocks, rotating to the left. >> half hour in -- >> you're talking 14 -- 15 loops an hour. >> that's ten hours. >> that's ten hours. >> seven hours in, only one person has dropped. 144 men and ten women are still lifting rocks in the middle of the night. but after 75 loops, bruce isn't sure how much longer he can go on. >> honestly, i'm not sure i'm going to get through the other half. i didn't count on all this repetitive lifting. it is not my strength. these rocks are over half my weight. >> we are all meeting right where i am after you clean up your pile, put it around your
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pipe and your hay bail and we're headed out. >> there's a raging river and we had to walk upstream. it was complete dark. there was no moon that night. it rained pretty much from the beginning of the race. >> reporter: almost three hours later, bruce reappears. >> and when i saw what was next, i knew that pretty much right away that my day was done. i would have trouble with that next challenge. i'm done. the task was to pull yourself across on a rope, still carrying your pack, come out of the pond, go up a 50-degree slope, muddy at this point. >> reporter: for the next two days through rain and sun, the stronger persevered. ultimately 45 hours after it all began, 35 athletes were left standing. by then, bruce was already back home in maryland, but he doesn't see defeat.
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>> i would love to have gone further, i would have loved to have finished. but i was proud of where i got to, i was proud of getting to the race and being there. >> reporter: he lives to race again. now bruce says he would like to head back to vermont next year and give it another go. would you do that? yikes. good luck, bruce. take a look at this guy over here. recognize him without the makeup? that's paul stanley, born deaf in one ear, but also part of the one of the most successful bands on the planet, kiss. how did he do it and what do kids think of him nowadays? what do we have? all four of us, together? 24. he's low fat, too, and has 5 grams of sugars. i'll believe it when i--- [ both ] oooooh... what's shakin'? [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important part of staying active and strong. new ensure high protein... fifty percent of your daily value of protein. low fat and five grams of sugars. see? he's a good egg. [ major nutrition ] new ensure high protein. ensure! nutrition in charge!
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to you it may sound like the ultimate oxymoron, a musician, famous one, who can't hear at least out of one of his ears. that's the reality for rock star paul stanley since the day he was born. the kiss frontman was inspired to overcome his own disability in part by helping others. >> come on and clap your hands! >> reporter: to rock and roll all night. and party every day. that's always been paul stanley's dream. >> if somebody had told me at 58, 59, i would be running around on stage without a shirt, you know, and tights and high
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heels, i would have said what drug are you taking? >> come on and love me! >> reporter: but the road to rock stardom as the front man for kiss was difficult. few people know it, but stanley was born with a condition that should have steered him away from music. >> i had a physical deformity called a microshia. >> reporter: one of his inner ears that convey sound to the brain never developed. figuring out the direction of sound was particularly challenging and he was also born with an underdeveloped outer ear. did you get teased a lot? >> it was horrible. i have to say that childhood was not fun. >> you decided to grow your hair out. that's become such a signature look of you and the band. was that in part because of wanting to hide your ears? >> absolutely. >> you grew your hair out to do that? >> absolutely. >> reporter: strength, and a bit of defiance, got stanley through the taunting.
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>> something told me inside that i could do music and, interestingly, being deaf in one ear, was not something that i saw as a hardship or something that was a hinderance at all. >> reporter: but eventually off stage, hearing loss did become a hindrance so stanley had surgery. >> you take a power drill and aim into the head. >> reporter: the surgery was successful, but it does not equal self-acceptance. that, stanley learned over time, and by working with kids. >> you talk to kids who have microshah, so right now they're like mr. stanley, i'm the one getting teased on the playground, i'm not the rock star. >> how cool it is for them to hear somebody say, i was there and look what i did. you can get through this and you'll find out how much something means to you by how hard you're willing to work to overcome it. joaquin became a part of our fit nation six-pack he wanted to
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get back to the basics, change his life, become fit and his inspiration was his son and three young daughters. they inspired him to kick his habit of soda and fast food and do something big, start training for the not not akau new york city triathlon. he's leaner, faster and healthier than he's ever been before and joins us from outside his home in orlando. good to see you again. you look great. we've had a chance to catch up a few times. knowing how close you are to your kids it's amazing that one of the biggest breakthroughs you experienced in this challenge happened on father's day. tell us what happened, specifically. >> yeah. on father's day weekend, i entered a race, and for
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viewers that don't know what that is, it's kind of like a triathlon except limited to two sports, a run, a bike and a run at the end. and it was an amazing experience because it was the first time i got to really test myself with all the training i had done and i learned a lot. >> one of the things i've talked about and talked about with you and others, when i decided to do a triathlon it changed my life in ways i could not have imagined not just in terms of fitness and health but in other ways as well. what has all this training and commitment done for you? >> i mean, that's a tough question to answer right now in this limited time. it's done so much for me. i would have to say, the major -- one of the major things it's done is really to make me feel good about the example i'm setting for my kids because they take a big interest in what i'm doing. they ask me about my training and really, it's helped me feel positive about all aspects of life from work to home to, you know, just really helps mentally a lot. >> joaquin, i'm proud of you. you're doing a good job. can't wait to cross that finish line with you coming up pretty quickly. thanks so much. >> ts.

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