business school. that means that tweet is worth about $37,000. the school is reportedly doing this because it says the application essays were becoming unoriginal. the tweet has to answer this question, what makes you an exceptional full-time mba candidate and future mba hire. in case you're wondering, the university of iowa is not the first to do this. kentucky fried chicken offers a colonel's twitter scholarship. and another offers a short and tweet scholarship by asking students to sum up their college experience a tweet. so instead of an essay, they have to come up with a 140-character tweet. boy, have times changed since a plid to college all those years ago. i didn't have to sweat those essays. wouldn't that be great? >> essay, after essay, after essay. where were the tweets when we were coming along, randi kaye? hello to you. i'm brook baldwin. busy, busy day in news on this wednesday.

rupert murdoch under fire in britain and in the united states. two separate u.s. agencies calling for investigations into rupert murdoch. have you heard this story? an 8-year-old boy kidnapped, murdered, then mutilated. now new york place are scouring a stream of surveillance video for answers. more on that. first, i want to begin with this. let's just plunge right into the debt negotiations at this hour. daily talks at the white house resume in one hour, and by all accounts, they are becoming more tense, more heated, more testy, the closer we get to the deadline. you know the date by now, august 2nd. august 2nd, a potential default of the u.s. treasury if congress will not approve more borrowing. joining me now from the u.s. capitol building is congressman paul brown, republican of georgia. congressman brown, nice to see you. good to have you on.

>> it's nice to be with you. i don't believe the august 2nd deadline frankly, and we don't default even if we pass the august 2nd deadline, even if that's when we hit our debt ceiling. >> hang on, sir. let me begin with this. let me begin with something i know you heard the president zayesay yesterday, talking all those social security checks. i know tlts 70 million of them. now the president is saying he cannot guarantee the payment of those checks by the august 2nd deadline whether you believe the date or not. do you believe, sir, it's simply a tactic to come out and scare the american people? >> absolutely. there's no question about it. this is about scare tactics. we heard about during the t.a.r.p. as well as the stimulus bill promotion that the president did. it's nothing but scare tactics. trying to scare the senior citizens as well as everybody. we hear about it from the president on the ryan budget plan. it's just politics as usual. the american people deserve better than that. we've got to start dealing with this debt, this $14.3 trillion

debt that we have on the books now, if you even believe that number, which i'm not sure is factual. it's just unsustainable as a nation. we have to start paying down the debt. >> so far i'm hearing you say we're not so sure about the deadline although that is what tim geithner, the treasury secretary, has given august 2nd. we're not sure about that debt number. let me give you a hypothetical. let's talk about taxes. i want to throw out a hypothetical. it perhaps will resonate with our viewers. here it is. let's say mr. and mrs. smith or mr. and mrs. jones, they decide they're working too hard. they need a break. they need more time with the family. what do they do? they cut their hours. they do make less money, but they keep the two cars, they keep the mortgage, keep the kids in private school, keep taking the family vacations. so surprise surprise, they find themselves in debt. wouldn't you say, congressman brown, would you say to mr. and mrs. jones you need to get off your duffs, get back to work, ann more money, more revenue in order to pay their debts?

>> absolutely. in fact, that's what a business has to do. i introduced a bill, hr 2409, that would actually reduce the debt ceiling down to $13 trillion by october the 1st of this year. and the point of that is just to start focusing on we've got to pay down the debt. in fact, if a business gets overextended as the federal government already is, then what do they do? first thing they do is they lower their borrowing limit, then they start finding ways of paying off the debt. then the next thing that they do is look at the expenditures that they're going -- that they have and start cutting their expenses, which means cut all the outflow of their funds, and then they start looking at how to bring funds in. now, here in washington, the democrats say we need to bring if funds by increasing taxes, but that's actually a tax on jobs and would tax away jobs. we just need more taxpayers to bring in more funds. and then we need to look at the assets the federal government has that are not needed and start selling those.

>> jump in. you mentioned taxes. of course they need to cut expenses, as you mentioned, with the hypothetical and also talking about our nation, our debt. they also need to raise more money. how can we, i guess -- how can we do that without collecting more taxes? >> well, marco rubio said just a day or two ago that what we need to do is not raise taxes but raise more taxpayers. senator rubio is absolutely correct in that. we need to have more people going to work with good paying jobs so they pay more taxes. what we have to do is get the regulatory burden and tax burden off of business and industry, the job creators, so we can get this economy going again. raising taxes is going to hurt the economy and is going to actually tax away jobs, which is absolutely inverse. >> let's look at some numbers here. we prepared some numbers. ronald reagan took office with an annual deficit of $74 billion, cut taxes, and by the time he left office, the annual

budget deficit had doubled. fast forward, bill clinton took office with a deficit of $290 billion, raised taxes, turned it into a surplus of $236 billion. george w. bush inherited bill clinton's surplus, cut taxes, left office with a deficit of $458 billion. do you, sir -- do you not see a correlation between cutting taxes and thus driving up the nation's deficit? >> absolutely not. in fact, let me give you a good example. during the reagan administration, he did cut taxes. we had tremendous growth, but the size of the federal government doubled during that period of time, even if you take away his defense build-up to try to defeat the soviet union. it's all about spending. we're spending way beyond our means as a nation. we've just got to stop it. it's unsustainable. we're heading towards an economic cliff as a nation and just slowing the train down. and actually, the president

himself just a couple of days ago says he understands that raising taxes is not going to bring any more revenue. the way to bring in revenue is by lowering taxes on job creators so we can have more jobs out there, more people paying taxes into the federal government. that's what happened in the reagan administration. we had a marked increase in the revenue. the problem is under democratic control of congress during the reagan administration, they still spent more than they were bringing in. so we've got to do what businesses and families do. we've got to stop the spending. we've got to be financially responsible to stop the financial fiasco that's going on. >> when you talk to businesses and families, the one word that resonates no matter what side you're on is jobs. you and your party say raising taxes will kill jobs. >> it will. >> bill clinton raised taxes his eight years in office. the economy created 23 million jobs. that is a record. these numbers are from "the wall street journal" and the census bureau. george bush cut taxes eight

years in office, 3 million jobs. if raising taxes automatically, irrefutably kills jobs, as your side is saying, how did bill clinton raise taxes and create those 23 million jobs? >> brook, we had a good economic environment during the clinton administration. we do not have that today. what we have is we have a business community that's overtaxed and overregulated. we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. every single other country in the world are lowering their corporate tax rate. in fact, let me give you an example. i talked to a multinational corporation manager and asked him, if we lower the corporate tax rates down from 35%, the highest in the world, down to 25%, what would his response be as a businessman? he said, we would expand our plants here in the united states, and we would start hiring more people. and i said, what if we dropped him down to zero? which i had introduced a bill

that would do that actually. and he said, the first thing we would do is we'd start moving the money from offshore onto shore, and we'd start building plants here in america, all over america. we are chasing jobs offshore with our regulatory burden, our tax burden on the job creators here in america. we've just got to stop that. we've got to stop bringing those dollars and jobs back to america. we do that by lowering taxes, by lowering the regulatory burden on business and industry, by getting rid of this huge debt that the federal government has. >> with all due respect, we have to talk about compromise, and where would your side be willing to compromise when it comes to taxes? >> well, the president's not willing to compromise at all. he's absolutely insistent on taxing job creators here in america. >> he's talking about cutting entitlements. he says some folks on the far left none too pleased with him there. you think what's the far right willing to compromise on? >> what he's saying, he reminds

me of the cartoon character wimpy. where wimpy said, i'll pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today. what he's saying is you raise taxes now, and we'll give you those cuts in the future. this is deja vu. it happened under the reagan administration. >> will your side compromise on taxes at all? >> i don't see that we can or will for the simple reason it's going to tax away jobs and it's going to hurt our economy. and it's absolutely adverse to the financial situation here in this country. we're in an economic emergency, brook. and in an economic emergency, you have to do emernlent procedures. i'm a medical doctor. i've worked in emergency rooms, and i know about those types of things. we've got to start paying down the debt. we've got to stop spending money we don't have today. we've got to look into every single corner of the federal expenditures, discretionary as

well as the nondiscretionary spending, and start cutting and stop spending money we just don't have. it hasn't worked in the past, and it never will work. >> congressman paul brown. we're still watching to see what sides do what by august 2nd. thank you so much, sir, for coming on. i appreciate you. >> thanks. appreciate it. thank you. >> now watch this. order! order! order! >> the british phone hacking scandal that's already taken down one tabloid could threaten prime minister gordon brown's career. he faces a furious -- you just heard -- furious british parliament wondering what he knew and when. plus this. it was therapy that would help me change from being homosexual to straight. >> that's how he described it? >> yes. >> pray the gay away. that's what one group is alleging a clinic run by michelle bachmann's husband wanted them to do. cnn investigates marcus

bachmann's controversial therapy practice in minnesota. [ bell chiming ]

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control the labor party, but then when they go out, they control the conservative party. so it's all about that, and that's bad for the world. it's certainly bad for america. and we have enough problems getting objective media. and here is what senator frank lautenberg wrote in the letter to attorney general eric holder. "accordingly, i am requesting that doj and the s.e.c. examine these circumstances and determine whether u.s. laws have been violated." in the uk, where the outcry is much, much -- very much so the loudest here, this morning murdoch dropped his bid for britain's bskyb television company. listen to how hot the discussion got in britain's house of commons. >> there is a firestorm, if you like, that is engulfing parts of the media, parts of the police,

and indeed our political system's ability to respond. and what we must do in the coming days and weeks is think about all of the victims like the downer family, who are watching this today, and make doubly sure we get to the bottom of what happened and prosecute those who are guilty. what has happened at this company is disgrateful, has got to be addressed at every level, and they should stop thinking about mergers when they've got to sort out the mess they've created. >> so with investigations being called into murdoch's u.s. practices, you may be wondering how much influence his media empire has right here. cnn's becky anderson looks at his u.s. holdings. >> reporter: news corp has plenty at stake in the united states, including the majority of its profits. its television sector earns the company $15 billion a year. that is largely thanks to the success of fox network. you'll know that. and hit shows like "american

idol," "24," and "the simpsons." also, newscorp owns fox sports and 27 television stations from new york to los angeles. in fact, when you look at the map across the country, each of these antennas actually represents a station that is under murdoch's control. and also, of course, fox news, fox business, and other cable networks, including fx and the national geographic channel. moving on from tv for you, murdoch's film division is also highly lucrative, bringing in more than $7 billion a year, largely thanks to the success of popular 20th century fox films such as "vanity fairavatar" and" holdings. also hugely popular in the u.s. are titles such as "the wall street journal" and new york post. they also own harper collins, with notable authors such as

j.r.r. tolkien and c.s. lewis under their belt. news flash, if you haven't put your big toe outside yet, folks, it's hot. when i say hot, i'm talking triple digits. live pictures, yeah, atlanta looks pretty, but take it from me, not so nice when you walk outside. in arkansas, for those of you there today, 108 degrees in parts of that state. there is some relief in sight. meteorologist chad myers is going to join me next with that. plus the youngest of the 12 jurors, juror number three, a nursing student, talking to cnn about her decision in the casey anthony case. >> what convinced you and the five others to switch your votes and vote for not guilty? >> i think everyone will tell you the same thing. >> you have to hear the rest of her answer. of these abandoneds in america today. automotive performance is gone. and all we have left are fallen leaves and broken dreams. oh. wait a second.

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cue that song. you know that hot, hot, hot song. people in the south are melting in some of these extreme temperatures. atlanta, little rock, arkansas, will be in the mid-90s today, and temperatures in dallas will shoot well above 100 through the weekend. things are cooling down a bit in the northeast and the midwest. that is some good news for some of you. some, he says, chad myers, some. talk to me about how hot it will get, sir. >> today heat index is -- heat indices is about 120 in some spots. which means you can't sweat and lose that heat. that's what the sweat does. it wants to evaporate and cool you down. if it can't evaporate, you don't cool down whatsoever. yesterday in owensboro, kentucky, hottest spot on the entire map, 126 degrees. >> what do you do? just don't go outside. some people don't have the choice. that's the thing. >> correct. when i lived in buffalo 30 years

ago, we didn't have air condition. i didn't know what it was. one person on the entire block had air condition, and they were the rich people. really, you have to make sure you have water, make sure the pets have water, a fan. if the fan is blowing 104 degree air on you, that's almost defeating the purpose, isn't it? >> absolutely. >> it's going the wrong way. it's even heating you back up. you need something, and typically it's a mall or maybe a movie that can help you out. right now the weather is bad. shreveport, jackson, little rock, even montgomery. 108 degrees is that feel like temperature because your body simply can't cool itself down when you get weather like that. one more thing that can pop up as well. >> thunderstorms, right? >> exactly. that is the belt way. washington, d.c., getting really pounded right now. look at that number. 1,304 lightning strikes from northern virginia into d.c. and now heading up the bw parkway to baltimore. and so the airplanes are very slow at this point in time. very few planes getting in and out of baltimore into d.c. or

even into iad. let me show you what it looks like here in atlanta. you saw that beautiful picture. let me show you what it looks like in washington, d.c. right now. that is haze and rain coming in. you could hardly even see the capital. that's only a couple of miles away. the haze and humidity is so thick right now. at least the rainfall, when you get a shower in the summer or springtime, it will cool you down. stay away from the lightning. 1,300 lightning strikes in one thunderstorm heading over the district of columbia ya. >> quite a lightning show, right, chad myers? thank you so much. now this. when detectives asked where the boy was, aaron nodded toward the kitchen, where detectives observed blood on the freezer handle of the refrigerator. >> kidnapped, killed, then mutilated. why? why would someone commit such an unthinkable crime against an 8-year-old boy? and what does the stream of surveillance videos actually say

about this particular crime? we're going to have a lot more on this developing story next. [ bird chirping ]

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then cut his body into pieces. >> reporter: the child's body was found inside a suitcase, wrapped in a plastic bag, and dumped in a dumpster on 20th street near fourth avenue. other remains were recovered from a refrigerator in the suspect's apartment in kensington. detectives identified him as 35-year-old levi aron. the motive was not immediately clear. >> there was no indication at this time the victim was known to the suspect previously. it was just happenstance and a terrible fate for this young boy. >> reporter: little leibby kletzky had been missing since he left his orthodox day camp on monday afternoon. this morning the boy's rabbi left the apartment with nypd detectives moments after the parents learned of the child's fate. >> i got a call from police to come down because we're going to make notification. >> reporter: the child's

disappearance gripped ro eped bs tight knit orthodox community for 36 hours. leibby is last seen asking directions from a bearded man on his way home. police tracked the suspect who was seen on another surveillance camera leaving a nearby dentist's office. the dentist confirmed the identity, and the detectives made the arrest in the middle of the night. >> when detectives asked where the boy was, aron nodded toward the kitchen, where detectives observed blood on the freezer handle of the refrigerator. >> now, no charges have been filed yet bens levi aron. police say the medical examiner is yet to find out how exactly the boy was killed. parents, in some sliver of a way you can relate because your child asks you, can i walk home alone? when is it okay? i talked to a former detective about that. more on this gruesome, gruesome case next hour. coming up next, michelle bachmann on the campaign trail,

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republican presidential hopeful michelle bachmann and other lawmakers are trying to make sure troops' paychecks aren't hurt over this debate on the debt ceiling. today, the minnesota congresswoman backed legislation which would prioritize paying members of the armed forces even if the u.s. hits its debt limit. >> under no circumstances should the brave men and women in uniform who are fighting to protect the liberties of this nation while the united states is engaged in various conflicts, should they have for a moment their military pay be somehow in abeyance or suspended. the families of the military deserve far better than that. gay rights advocates want to call michelle bachmann on the carpet because of this christian

counseling center she and her husband own. hidden camera video indicates the clinic uses a bible based psychotherapy to try to convert gays to being straight. here's jim acosta. >> hi, everybody. >> reporter: in her campaign for president, michelle bachmann touts her background as a small business owner. >> as a mom of five, a foster parent, and a former tax lawyer and now a small business job creator -- >> reporter: that business is bachmann and associates, a christian counseling service outside minneapolis, run by her husband marcus. they're both pictured on the clinic's website. in recent years the clinic has faced accusations it encourages gay and lesbian patients to change their sexual orientation, a practice that is frowned upon by mental health experts. back in 2004, andrew ramirez, at the urge of his mother, turned to bachmann and associates to talk about his own homosexuality. the then 17-year-old says he was immediately skeptical of what one of the clinic's counselors

told him. >> it was therapy that would help me change from being homosexual to straight. >> reporter: that's how he described it? >> yes. >> reporter: he basically said, if you do this, what? you wouldn't be gay anymore? >> if i did this and worked his therapy program, god could perform a miracle, and i could no longer be gay. >> reporter: ramirez says he was assigned a therapy program consisting of prayer and reading bible passages. he also says he was told he would be mentored by an ex-lesbian minister, and if none of that worked, ramirez said the counselor had another idea. he suggested to you what? >> not acting out on my same-sex attractions and living a life of celibacy. >> reporter: that was an alternative to being gay? >> right. >> reporter: after the second session, ramirez told his mother he wanted to stop. >> and i could just hear his voice quiver, and i just said, you know, andy, if you're good with being gay, then i am too.

>> reporter: the american psychological association is sharply critical of what's known in the mental health community as repairative therapy, saying there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation. but in a talk radio interview last year, marcus bachmann compared gay teenagers to barbarians who must be disciplined. >> what do you say when your teenager says she's gay? what do you say to christian parents who come up with this? >> well, i think you clearly say what is the understanding of god's word on homosexuality? and i think that this is no mystery that a child or preadolescent, particularly adolescents, will question and wonder. certainly, there's that curiosity, but, again, we -- like, you know, it is as if we have to understand barbarians need to be educated.

they need to be disciplined, and just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean we're supposed to go down that road. >> reporter: back in 2006, bachmann denied his practice engaged in reparative therapy, telling a minneapolis newspaper that's a false statement and went on to say, "if someone's interested in talking to us about their homosexuality, we are open to talking about that. but if someone comes in a homosexual and they want to stay a homosexual, i don't have a problem with that." >> what would you suggest to me like a treatment plan type of thing? >> you definitely pray. >> reporter: this week a gay rights group, truth wins out, released its own hidden camera video recorded by one of its activists who posed as a patient at bachmann and associates. >> you can actually leave homosexuality and completely and become heterosexual?

>> oh, yeah, definitely. i believe all about that. it's happened. it really has. >> reporter: in the full five sessions of footage captured by truth wins out, while the counselor at times suggests homosexuality can be treated at the clinic, he also concedes he's not an expert on the subject. michelle bachmann has a long history of controversial views on homosexuality. she recently signed a pledge to defend marriage that compared same-sex couples to polygamists. that's a comparison bachmann made in 2004 when she called amendments to block gay marriages in other states to happen in minnesota. >> if they agree to this, polygamy and other things far worse may not be far behind. >> reporter: bachmann's campaign released a statement to cnn saying, "the bachmanns are in no position ethically, legally, or morally to discuss specific courses of treatment concerning the clinic's patients." when bachmann was asked whether

her clinic engages in this therapy, she dodged the question. >> is this something that is conducteded at that center? >> well, i'm running for the presidency of the united states, and i'm here today to talk about job creation and also the fact that we do have a business that deals with job creation. we're very proud of the business that we've created. >> reporter: the latest polls show michelle bachmann has a serious shot at winning the iowa caucuses, where social conservatives will be a decisive factor and who just might consider the bachmann christian counseling center a potent political asset. jim acosta, cnn, washington. coming up next, juror number three in the casey anthony trial is now speaking out. >> you come home, and everyone's mad at you, and the media is outside hounding you and making it clear they're not leaving. >> she tells cnn what her life has been like since the verdict. as you can tell, it's not been so good. cnn's gary tuchman talked to

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caylee. listen to this one juror. >> just because for six weeks we had minimal freedoms and then the welcoming committee -- i'm being sarcastic, but you come home, and everyone's mad at you. the media's outside hounding you and making it clear they're not leaving. it's just very stressful. you know, get anonymous letters from people that are hateful and nasty. >> that is just one piece of the interview. there he is, gary tuchman. he scored this interview with juror jennifer ford. gary, i know you're one of the nicest guys i know, but how in the world did you get her to talk to you? she's already talking about getting hate mail. don't you think she'll now get even more? >> reporter: brooke, first of all, thank you for saying that. i do appreciate that. she didn't think i was a very nice guy when we showed up at her home, and i explained to her, though, we didn't want to just hear what happened in the jury room. we wanted to talk to her about the humanity of the situation and what's happened in the days

since and get that story out there because we feel very strongly -- we know this is an unpopular verdict. polls showed that. we feel very strongly that no matter what the verdict, you can't take your anger out on jurors because, if anger is taken out on jurors, and there's notes and death threats and retribution, who will ever want to serve on a jury? we talked to her about that, spent a few hours with her, and that's when we conducted our interview. >> so let's take a look at the longer piece of this interview. how she explains to you how -- what was it, 11 hours of deliberation, how they came to this not guilty verdict so quickly. let's take a look. >> reporter: right. can i say one thing? >> absolutely. go ahead. >> reporter: i need to set this up properly. so i apologize for thachlt tt. the setup we need to show is initially when they went into the jury room, the vote was 10-2 to acquit her of the most serious murder charge. that quickly went unanimous. but it was 6-6 split on the

manslaughter charge, and at that point, this juror, jennifer ford, thought the verdict could go either way. listen. tell me the original vote for the aggravated manslaughter was 6-6. >> correct. >> reporter: and which side of the six were you on? >> the manslaughter. >> reporter: so originally you thought that she was guilty of manslaughter or could be guilty? >> could be, and i wanted to investigate it further to see if it fit based on the evidence that we were given. >> reporter: so what convinced you and the five others to switch your votes and vote for not guilty? >> i think everyone will tell you the same thing, it's just lack of hard evidence. like i said, the duct tape and the chloroform and things like that, you could -- if you took a good hard look at it, you could kind of -- there was a lot of doubt surrounding all of those certain things. there's not enough to make anything stick. >> reporter: so you don't necessarily think she's innocent, but you feel you don't have enough proof to find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? >> right. i don't know either way. obviously, it's not been proven that she's innocent, but it

certainly hasn't been proven that she's guilty. >> reporter: the defense in their opening statement said that casey anthony's father molested her repeatedly when she was young, and that's the reason why she kept the drowning of her child secret. do you believe that she could have been molested? was there evidence she could have been molested by her father? >> there was no evidence, none at all, and that had no bearing on any verdict that was made. i mean, that was irrelevant. it was thrown out there but never substantiated. it had no bearing. >> reporter: did it bother you it wasn't substantiated later in the trial? the judge said you cannot bring it up in your closing arguments, defense, because you didn't present any evidence about it. >> i really wish he didn't bring it up. it's a disturbing image. he painted a very graphic and disgusting picture. if you're going to do it, at least back it up. if you can't back it up, don't put that picture in people's minds. >> reporter: and in the drowning, the only pictures presented were caylee climbing in the pool with her grandmother standing near a screen door, a door which her grandmother

testified she couldn't open. it was pretty flimsy evidence at best. i'm wondering if you think there was a possibility that she could have drowned. was there any evidence that convinced you of that? >> there's no evidence that convinced me of that. >> reporter: so you don't think she drowned. you don't think she was molested. so the casual viewer of this trial might say, okay, how come she's not guilty of murder? >> it's not what the defense presents. it's on the prosecution to prove. they brought charges. they have to prove with their evidence that those charges are -- they can validate, bring those charges, and the crime was committed. >> reporter: so you didn't believe the central points of what the defense told you, but you just felt the prosecution didn't have enough evidence to convict? >> like i said, they had good strong circumstantial evidence. at the end of the day, it was circumstantial, and there wasn't one strong piece of evidence that said something definitively. every piece of evidence could have gone this way or that. there were many different ways you could have gone with each piece of evidence. >> reporter: jennifer ford tells me it makes her sick to her stomach knowing that there is a

possibility that they will not have been responsible for releasing a murderer, but they did not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she was legally guilty of murder or manslaughter. also, brooke, what was fascinating is she told me what shocked all the jurors -- and we certainly didn't know this watching the trial -- but what shocked all the jurors was, when the prosecution rested its case, the jurors discussed in the deliberation room, what do you mean you're resting case? we haven't even heard the best evidence yet. they presumed there was more evidence, and there wasn't. that was interesting hearing her tell me that. >> that's what it was, it was that lack of evidence that led them to their ultimate decision. gary tuckman fascinating hearing from her finally, the youngest, 32 years of age. gary, appreciate it. a big star, her big house, and an even bigger security scare. what drove a man to come back to halle berry's house again and again? we're talking about this frightening intruder in the hollywood hills, much more on that and what possesses someone to stalk. also, we're live in washington

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have you heard about this man accuse of stocking halle berry. this man tried get into her house. 27-year-old richard franco is to be arraigned today. at one point he was standing ten feet away from her on the other side of her kitchen door. barry went upstairs, picked up the phone and dialled 911. apparently he was gone by the time police arrived but alas he

came back and that time offduty police officers caught him and they arrested him monday night. alan duke is standing by covering the story for us in los angeles. and alkaline call psychologist jeff gardere. hal hallehalle berry is there screaming, there's a guy in my yard! >> it happened on three occasions she had this encounter. saturday and sunday. the guy kept coming back according to police. and it was a situation that, of course, scared her then so she hired extra security people. offduty los angeles police officers were near her home on monday night when he allegedly came back. a neighbor saw him and they used

a walkie talkie to tell her run for cover, find a safe place. they nabbed him and now he's in court to face charges of felony stalking. >> i want to bring dr. jeff in. what posesses a person to stalk? >> well, fwh this particular case, it seems like this guy, he is a convicted felon, so maybe some sort of sociopath. but he has a delusional system where halle berry is in love with him or he can convince her to fall in love with him. but i see him in being sadistic. he is controlling her by fear. he knows sha she's afraid, so therefore he's going to keep presenting himself in a way that is very threatening. a very dangerous individual. >> how does one become so

delusional? how does this happen? >> yublly a person at risk for other psychological issues. 2/3 of victims are women and normally the stalkers, most of these stalkers have been in a relationship with that person. usually a man who is stalking a woman. and we see it the other way around. but they just can't seem to let go of that individual or the love or the rejection. and when they're rejected, they become angry and they start becoming delusional where they can't accept the fact that they are being rejected, therefore they build this world where they say, this person really loves me, but they really don't know it. >> alan duke what do we know about this guy? the fact that he's 27. what else? >> he's from commerce, california, 27. the most we know is from that affidavit that halle berry filed

with the court yesterday. she said police told her he had a history of violence, theft, and drug use. he was carrying a book police told her contained nonsensical rambles, writings, including her name written in his hand. we don't know if he had a weapon, though. >> a book. drchl je dr. jeff, you get the last word. writing her name over and over? >> absolutely. it really sounds like there's some some ocd, obsessive compulsive disorder. he might have some real psychosis going on and perhaps show been treated and that makes the situation even that the much worse. >> thank goodness they' got him in custody. thanks to you both. frightening. coming up, he says he is a reformed terrorist.

now he travels america lecturing churches and police about the dangers of radical islam. and by the way, he makes a lot of money doing this. but is he telling the truth? it's a cnn investigation you don't want to miss. we'll be right back. (screams) when an investment lacks discipline, it's never this obvious. introducing investment discipline etfs from russell. visit russelletfs.com r a prospectus, containing the investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and other information. read and consider it carefully before investing.

>> let's go to wolf blitzer for the latest news.

president obama raised pretty good money. >> yeah. over the past three months, april, may and june, the numbers are now out. it's official. between what he raised for his own campaign and what he raised for the democratic national committee at various events, $86 million, $47 million he raised for his relex campaign. another $39 million for the democratic national committee. it's a lot more money than all of the republican candidates combined raised. and certainly a lot more money than george w. bush raised when he was beginning his re-election campaign. back in eight years ago, i guess we should say right now. so the president of the united states very, very effective still in raising lots of money. there's been some suggestion that some of his re-election campaign official that he wants to raise $1 billion between now and november of next year. we'll see how much of that goal he manages to achieve.

he doesn't even have, as you know, any democratic opponents running for the democratic presidential nomination, but he's raising money looking ahead to the general lex after the republicans name their nominee. some other political news we're watching, senator rockefeller among other democrats in the senate right now, calling on the justice department to open an investigation into rupert murdoch's news corporations holdings here in the united states. so wondering if some of the allegations that have occurred in britain are also happening here in the united states. rockefeller saying my bet is we'll find some criminal stuff. this is going to be a huge issue. he didn't release any evidence of why he says that, but other senators including bob mendez, democrat of new jersey who will be in the situation room, they're agreeing with him. senator boxer of california, a bunch of democratic senators now calling for a full scale investigation of news corporation here in the united states. finally, one additional event with a little note i want to

point out. newt gingrich, as you know, he's running for president of the united states as well. he was asked in his campaign, as you know, brooke, in a lot of trouble. he was asked who his second favorite republican would be if he didn't manage to get that nomination and he mentioned the texas governor rick perry who's not even an official candidate. but a lot of us think rick perry eventually after his prayer and fast event early august in texas that he's organizing he's going to announce he's running for president of the united states. another texan running for the white house. we'll see how that unfolds. >> yeah, that's a safe bet. you throw out a guy's name that's not even in the race yet. as we're at the top of the hour, debt talks at the white house are due to start again. right now. you know the deal. we've been talking about this reach and every day. a potential default of the united states treasury if congress will not approve more borrowing by that deadline of august 2. congressional republicans are

asking for equal spending cuts of any dollar amount they would leetth let the government borrow. the white house is saying that would hurt the poor and the middle class and wouldn't cost the wealthy a dime. so the democrats are saying yes, we'll cut spending, but let's raise some tacks, too. jessica yellin, is there any give at all on either side's position here? >> both sides seem pretty locked down and increasingly so, brooke. for today's 4:00 p.m. meeting, staff on all sides were dispatched to come up with a list of detailed spending cuts that could help everybody get to the $1.5 trillion to $1.7 trillion that has been the working goal for the total spending cuts. there's been taxes and entitlement changes. treasury secretary tim geithner gave the group a warning about

the catastrophic consequences of a default and we got varying accounts of the mood in there. yesterday, some said it was weary. some said they were tired of hearing each other's talking points. at times it's testy, but everyone says it's very professional. the problem is, no one is reporting any major progress towards a deal and the clock is ticking. >> jay newton-small is saying it's more the number two republican cantor doing the talking not so much john boehner. what is boehner's response to this white house charge that he and his republicans absolutely will not put taxes on the table. they just won't even go there. >> well, the speaker had a meeting with a small group of reporters in his office this morning. and when we met with him, he said first of all that the tax increase proposal is a nonstarter. it's not going to go anywhere. there's not going to be votes for it under this midway deal they' been talking about.

he continues to say that big deal option is a great idea, would have worked, could work if there were more time, other ways. he did say that the president, what he is asking us to do just won't pass. that would be that midway deal. >> the $2.4 trillion or the $4.0? >> 2.4. and everyone warns us against uses those absolute numbers. but the midway deal. >> okay. >> but the general sense that one gets by talking to everybody is that everyone agrees that something has to pass. and something will pass. the question is how do you get there. the clock is ticking, there's not a lot of trust. what's going to get done so what other options are out there. >> that's a great question. jessica yellin, let us know you'll hear anything. they're all supposed to be back at the white house talking about this potential deal. they all want to get a deal done. just how is the question.

thank you, ma'am. i appreciate it. i talked a short time ago with republican paul brown of georgia and i asked him about the republican party's position that any tax increase against anyone would kill job creation. watch this. >> you talk to families, you know, the one word that resonates know matter what side you're on is jobs. and you and your party say raising taxes will kill jobs. but bill clinton raised taxes his eight years in office, the economy raised 27 million jobs. these numbers from "the wall street journal" and the census bureau. george bush cut taxes, eight years in office, 3 million job ps. so if raising taxes automatically ir refutably kills jobs as your side is saying, how did bill clinton raise taxes and create those 23 million jobs? >> brooke, we had a good economic environment during the clinton administration. we do not have that today. what we have is a business community that's overtaxed and overregulated. we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world.

every single other country in the world are lowering their corporate tax rate. >> will your side compromise on taxes at all? >> well, i don't see that we can or will for the simple reason that it's going to tax away jobs. and it's going to hurt our economy. and it's absolutely adverse to the financial situation here in this country. we're in an economic emergency, brooke. and in an economic emergency, you have to do emergency procedures. i'm a doctor and i worked in an emergency room and i know those kinds of things. we have to start paying down the debt and stop spending many unwe don't have today. we've got to look in every single corner of the expenditures and start cutting and stop spending many unwe just don't have. it hasn't worked in the past and it never will work. >> congressman paul brown of georgia, republican, says no

compromise. now if it's interesting, it's happening right now, beginning in india, three separate bomb blasts hit the evening rush hour in mumbai. 21 people are dead, dozens more are injuried. but those numbers are expected to go way up. president obama now weighing in as well, saying in a statement that he has seen the strength and resilience of the indian people firsthand and has no doubt india will overcome what he terms, quote, unquote, these deplorable terrorist attacks. >> order! order! order! >> furor inform britain's house of commons over the tabloid phone hacking controversy. today, the widening scandal forced news corp to pull out of its bid to take over bskyb. this amaid allegations that murdoch's papers illegally eavesdropped and bribed police. emotional burial today for the

half brother of afghanistan's president, hamid karzai. climbed into the grave. you can see him going in there now where his brother, his half brother, ahmed wali karzai being laid to rest. a long trusted security guard pulled a pistol on ahmad w karzai on monday and was shot by other guards standing around. >> whitey bull ler and his girlfriend were armed to the teeth according to new photographs released by prosecutors. look at this. they show weapons, cash, even a grenade from the california apartment where bulger was caught last month after 16 years on the lam. and do you remember this? this was back in december when the metrodome just caveded in in minneapolis. huge, huge mess. today, the dome officially rises again under blue skies. it took seven months to finish, butflated the roof just

this morning. good news for the gophers football team. the nfl will have to wait, though, to hear about the lockout, though. >> and how this man describes his near fall during monday's home run derby. he fell trying to go after a fly ball but was a caught by his brother and several other fans. he spoke on good morning today and admithood eused some poor judgment. >> thanks, you know, for my brother, friends being there when they were. using bad judgment on my part. i stepped up on the ladder there and tumbled overboard before i even realized it had happened. >> you use netflix? who doesn't these days, right? this might perturb you. the company announced the prices are going up. here's the bottom line. folks who want both options will

have to pay for each separately instead of the one big package. total price hike, 60%. thousands have already vented on facebook page. the ur gent waurgent warning co from ben bernanke. also this -- >> when detectives asked where the boy was, aaron nodded toward the kitchen where detectives observed blood on the freezer handle of the refrigerator. >> this is horrendous. what they found in that freezer is quite frankly unbelievable. a little boy, 8 years of age begs his parents to let him walk home alone, just this one day from day camp and now he is dead. and a suspect is in custody. there's also surveillance video now showing what may have happened in the boy's final moments. that story is unfolding right now. you don't want to miss this. it's a tough one. it's next.

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see the two of them passing by. the suspect apparently stopped to pay a bill and the staff in the dental office actually helped police locate this suspect's address. listen to how the body was found. >> nay found the door to the third floor apartment ajar with aaron inside. when detectives asked where the boy was, aaron nodded towards the kitchen where they found blood on the handle of the refrigerator. inside the refrigerator was a cutting board with three carving nooifs with blood on them. some of the remains were in the freezer and others in the dumpster 2 1/2 miles away. >> a former new york police detective joins us now. he's talking about aaron levy, the suspect here. he's not been charged anything, pending the medical examiner

coming forward with a specific cause of death. but i know you've seen some of that surveillance video, and i just want to loop it again. because you see this boy trailing along behind this man, this suspect, and it doesn't look like he's forcing him to go somewhere. he's not pulling him along anywhere. so just -- that little detail, what does that tell you? >> my condolences out to the family. in the video, he looks obviously out of place. in the hisidic community, this is a closed community. so this was someone information that i recently received, he was known to the family. he was guided by him and we see the longer that a young child stays within the close confines of a predator under his direction, the worse that it can be. >> did i hear you, you may be breaking news for us, you're telling me that you've been

talking to folks and he knew his family? >> yes. according to a source close to the hasidic community, i've been told the perpetrator and the family are known to each other. >> do we know how they knew each other? >> i don't know that. i don't know that, brooke. but to my information from someone close to the community is that they were known to the family. that aaron was known to the family. >> it was -- i was listening to the news conference this morning and taking notes. nypd commissioner ray kelly saying look, you know, characterizing this as happenstan happenstance, this is likely random. he said this morning, although perhaps new details coming forward indicating otherwise saying he didn't think that levy had contact with this 8-year-old boy. but let's just say, you know, in your years in law enforcement, is it typically the case to have a random killing, this kind of brutal random killing, or would somehow, you know, the

perpetrator would know his or her victim? >> according to a study, brook, less than 1/2 of 1% are your stereotypical stranger abductions. so for the most part, the vast majority, almost all of them are known entities in some way, shape or form to that child to the family. he has a tie back to that individual in some way, shape or form. and in this case, as the investigation unfolds and developments, i think we're going to find that's just the case. >> what is it that possesses someone to kill this way? i mean, from the details i've heard, they're gruesome, gruesome. feet were found in a freezer. other pieces of this little boy's body were found in garbage bags in a red suitcase some two miles away in a dumpster. why? why that extreme? >> it -- this individual is likely a psychopath with mental illness. i mean, to do this, it's likely not the first time he's done something like this. i know that he has roots in

memphis. he spent some time there. i'm sure the memphis authorities are going to be consulting with the nypd. commissioner kelly said it exactly as gruesome as it could be what occurred to this poor child. this is a sick man, a sick individual. he is a predator and this is a heinous crime. >> sick indeed. i appreciate you coming on. coming up next, an explosive cnn investigation. there's a guy, he's out traveling across the country, telling people islam and terror are inseparable. he says he knows this because he used to be a terrorist. problem is, there are some major, major holes in his story and he could be using your money. drew griffin has the staggering investigation. you have to hear this next. [ male announcer ] you don't make the world's best chicken

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>> he is a favorite on the security talk circuit. he's been born again as a christian and he has a story for sale. but this self-proclaimed ex-terrorist may be selling more story than fact. let's bring in cnn's drew griffin. you've been looking into walid shabat and his story may not be entirely true. >> walid shoebat says he's the perfect person to warn americans about terrorisms. his story is a little too perfect. >> no historian can deny that islamists basically invaded christiandom. >> walid shoebat has an advertised pedigree that makes

him an expert. islamic terrorist turned ultraconservative christian. a u.s. citizen because his mother is american, he is a darling on the terror circuit, the church and university circuits and yes, he believes the war on terror is a holy war. he portrays himself as a man converted and on a mission. once a jew-hating, bomb-throwing terrorist, now a devout christian convert, warning the world, islam is out to destroy you. that's how you recite the koran. i know the koran inside and out. if you believe the unbelievers, then smite off their necks. what part of smite off their necks do your americans don't understand? >> reporter: his message before a larnlly positive crowd of cops

and emergency responders at this security conference, trust no muslim, especially those who organize. >> know your enemy. know your enemy. all islamist organizations in america should be the number one enemy. all of them. the islamist organizations. you've got that on camera? yes, please. >> he is being paid $5,000 plus expenses to speak here with your tax dollars. he was also given a rapid city police guard during his time in the city. a nice day's work. judging by his website where he highlights more than three dozen speaking engagements, shoebat gets a lot of work. >> as we were talking through the piece, we have a jerusalem bureau. so you were able to get some answers. i mean, what did you find. what kind of holes are in his story.

>> we know he lived for a time in bethlehem. we know that his father was apparently a muslim and his mother was a christian and we know he moved here when he was about 18 years old. everything else he told us, and we went pain stakingly through with him, each detail, we really couldn't find much fact about him. begging the question, why south dakota's homeland security didn't do the check we did. why is he getting department of homeland security funds to speak to cops about terrorism and islam? and why he is allowed to stay what he' saying. >> i think i watched your bigger piece today. i just want everyone to know you will be on "ac 360" tonight asking a lot of question, as you seem to be doing well. thanks very much. let's take a live look at the white house. remind you the president and congressional leaders are negotiating on whether or not to extend america's credit line. remember that deadline august 2 according to treasury secretary

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new york came in at number 23. not too cheap to live in washington, d.c., either. let'ses go there for your cnn equals politics update. we know that, you know, this day currently, they should be talking inside the white house. and what are you hearing? you know, you talked to sources all the time. what are you hearing in terms of progress in these meetings. is this ground hog day? same issueded? >> yeah, it is. i guess the question of the day is how many ways can you count to $1 trillion or $2 trillion without raising tacks or cutting entitleme entitlements. the answer is, it's not easy. that's exactly what they're going to be doing in that room today. and it's very clear at this point that they're kind of at an impas impasse. republicans don't want to raise their taxes. democrats say they're not going to be touch entitlements unless republicans give. wh ch is why you had the senate

leader mitch mcconnell throw that little paraphernalia chute in there and come up with this little ingenious plan which would essentially pass the debt limit without republicans having to vote on it. that sounds good unless you're a conservative republican. because they think it's abdication. so i tell you what, we're at the same place and the question is, when do you go from negotiating to political positioning. we may be there. >> well, with political positioning, we all keep in mind that this is happening with the backdrop of the presidential campaign, right? and the gop candidates are in a bit of an odd position here. >> you're right. it's interesting to me. they're almost irrelevant to this. you' got michele bachmann saying no debt limit, no way. tim pawlenty saying he hopes and prays you don't raise the debt limit. mitt romney is kind of mia on this. ron paul is opposed to it. but if you go back to the 2008 race, you had all these senators

running for president and they were very involved in the thick of all the budget notes and the final issues of the banks of bailing out the banks. this time you have a lot of governors running, for example. they're not so much creatures of washington. so it's like you have two different parallel universes going out there. the presidential candidate saying no, don't raise the debt ceiling, easily political move if you're a conservative republican, and the leaders of the republicans and the congress saying you know what, we have to figure out a way to do this. >> then you look at the two parties, you see the splits. none too pleased. you mentioned, senator mcconnell's ingenious plan here, and then you have progressive groups threatening to not help

president obama's re-election campaign if he does entitlement cuts. >> this is what happens when you play base politics in the country. at some point compromise really can't be a dirty word. at some point, people do have a figure out a way to give and actually get this debt ceiling passed. at some point, people have to understand that this is important to the country and now we sort of start seeing people actually starting to explain it to the country. they want to explain it but they don't want to panic the country because they actually do want to get it done. >> so wake me when it's over,

okay? >> gloria, thank you so much. >> yep, see you tomorrow. >> coming up, it's being called a national health crisis. hospitals running out of drugs. every patient could be at risk. also, ben bernanke has just issued an urgent warning saying we could face another financial crisis with catastrophic consequences. we're live at the stock exchange, plus, have you ever heard of this couch surfing. "reporter roulette" next. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪

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stifling large parts of the country. time to play reporter roulette. elizabeth cohen, i want top begin with you. more than 150 medications that patients need at the hospital may not be available? >> it's scary. >> why? >> you go to the hospital, you think that's where they keep the drugs, right? there's a shortage of a bunch of them. it's a perfect storm of two things. one is these are cheap drugs. a lot of pharmaceutical companies say we don't want to make these anymore. and the companies that still do make them had some quality control issues and they had to stop making them and sort of redo their factories. >> is this just certain hospitals or is it pretty widespre widespread? >> it turns out that over 80% of hospitals and health care systems say they are experiencing shortages. that's a lot. >> how can we be empowered before we go to the hospital? >> look at those three drugs

right there. they're used for various things in the hospital. before you go in the hospital, you can ask, do you think i'll need any of these first of all. >> if you're in a state where you can think about asking those questions. >> but a lot of hospital admissions are planned. you can ask beforehand before you go in for your knee surgery. you can ask the doctor, do you think i will need any of these. that way in the hospital, you can ask them, am i getting a substitute? there are sbupts for these drugs but they don't necessarily work quite as well as these do. go to cnn.com/empoweredpatient and we have a link to a lot of information about this shortage and how you can find out more. >> excellent. thanks. >> alison kosik is in new york. what is ben bernanke saying? >> the fed chief is not always the most correct guy but today

he was direct. he reiterated a dire warning. if the debt ceiling isn't waved, it would throw shock waves through the entire system. failing to raise the debt limit would lead to a national default. now, it is worth noting, brooke, that the debate over the debt kreeling is not about authorizing more money to be spent. it's about paying for what we already spent. it's like the government went on a big shopping spree and now it's time to pay the bills, time to pay up. time for washington to get its act together. brooke? >> a lot of people i'm tweeting with know exactly what this is. could you te couch sur .ing. please explain. >> it has 2 million members across many countries. it helps you find a local host and you get to stay with them for free.

you set up a page like facebook. you don't necessarily have to stay on a couch. you could stay in a room, but i tell you what, it's staying with a stranger. you're basically knocking on a door saying hey, i'm ehere, i'm ready to stay. >> i've heard about house swapping. that's a deal with a perfect stranger, right? you swap homes with them. but walk into a perfect stranger's house and, you know, catching some z's on the sofa. i don't know about that. what's the police saying? >> they're concerned about safety. what if this person shows up at your house, brooke, and it's not the person that's been advertised. what if they steal something. can you report it as theft since you invited them into your home? and, you know, forget about the safety. what about the bed bugs? how do you know what their house is like? >> couch bugs. >> and what if they take out a knife in the middle of the night. you don't know these people. to me, i think it's ridiculous, absolutely bizarre to do this. >> i think we know how you feel about it.

like you said, i checked out the website, 3 million people are doing it. ask smart questions before you borrow someone's sofa. thank you so much. and finally here on "reporter roulette." chad myers is in the studio talking about the heat. triple digits in a number of places. who's got it worse, chad? >> i think augusta, georgia to charleston. the lwhole country of south carolina is in it today. but owensboro, kentucky was not the place to be when the heat index got to 126. i'm not even sure what that means. >> what does that feel like? i never want to know. >> i was in the desert with 114 it didn't feel so bad. but in the muggies and 126? i don't even want to think about that. a little bit of a cool front came through. it's also nice into places like cleveland and buffalo and detroit because a cool front did come down. i 15i6 cool.

when you take away the humidity, yesterday we had 23 states with heat advisories or warnings tod today. there is a cold front. it is kicking off, though, a couple of showers. one significant thunderstorm moved through baltimore into d.c. and now down into parts of central, virginia, and eventually towards the -- i would even call the delmarva of virginia. we're going to see showers and thunderstorms all the way up and down. anytime you get this type of heat and humidity in one place, thunderstorms are going to pop-up. if you're in a pool staying cool and you can hear the thunder, the lightning can get to you. get out of the pool. >> thank you so much. that's your reporter roulette on this wednesday. now this. >> okay, why is thf dois door unlocked?

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and this door right here. >> that's where we sleep. >> turn on the light on. >> so we see them, sunny, going, opening the doors, going room by room. but now we know the officers never went into the backyard where he kept jaycee and her two kids. who is at fault there? is that a breech of someone who should be checking in or more thorough? >> well, he did certainly, this officer did search the entire home. and, you know, hindsight is 20/20, but i wonder if anyone imagined that he had this backyard tent home that, you know, where he had jayce jaycee dugard. the district attorney released these attorneys because because he wanted to highlight the gravity and the mistakes that were made. i think we can all agree that perhaps mistakes, grave mistakes

were made. but at least we see that someone was visiting the home. apparently there were approximately 60 home visits over a ten-year period. were they doing their jobs? they were doing what they needed to do, but just not enough. >> not enough. >> we're hearing from jaycee dugard for the very first time. she was held captive by this monster who forced himself on her. she had two children. let's talk to jaycee about what life was like. >> he would dress me up for hours because he was taking methamphetamines and speed. he would get focused on one thing for long periods of time. and then it usually went to him

with his little books that he would cut out for hours. little girls from magazines and porno magazines. it didn't take sense to me at all. but that's what he did. >> it is sick. but it helps us. she's brave and speaking out. what can people learn about her story and what happened going forward? >> you know, i think we will learn a lot. on august 3, there's going to be a public hearing, and open hearing in sacramento and we're going to go over what went wrong and what we can learn. we mentioned, there were home visits but they missed it. she was 11 years old when this happened. and we now know that phillip garrido had four other victims

before this. so what did we learn from jaycee dugard's story? i think we're going to learn how to do this better. how to prevent other children from being subjected to these monsters, as you called him. and so august 3, something to look out for, it's going to be a sacramento public hearing and my hope is that some reform will come from that hearing. >> okay, august 3. let's talk about that then. at least we know as you and i have talked about before, phillip and nancy garrido in prison for a long, long time. thank you. now this. >> oh, my god! oh, my god! oh, my god! >> okay, that's not me squealing, although i may have a similar video when i got to see this in person. but one person shared the launch. dozens of women, grandmas in their 70s, taking it all off. their photo is about to go public. why? find out next. s are back and better than ever!

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and now, "the situation room" there's no segue here so isle just continue reading. wolf blitzer coming up at the top of the hour. >> did you have a nice birthday yesterday? >> i had a wonderful birthday. i went to dinner and i'm going off the grid for a couple of days on vaca. >> belatedly happy birthday. i did say happy birthday to you yesterday. >> and on twitter. >> i did tweet that to my followers. a lot of people love you. you have a huge following. >> thank. >> let's talk about what's coming up on "the situation room." all of our viewers are going to want to watch grover norquist. here in washington, everyone knows who he is. some say he's one of the most powerful guys in washington when it comes to taxes and other issues. we've got an interview lisa sylvester has a little background piece on him.

we're going to be speaking with him about the debt ceiling, tax reform, all of those issues. if you don't know who grover r norquist is, you're going to want to watch it. and the other one we have is bob mendez of new jersey is coming in. he wants the justice department, the attorney general of the united states to federal bureau of investigation to investigate the rupert murdoch's company to see if they were engaged in illegal activities, specifically whether they hacked into phones, voice mail from survivors and victims of the 9/11 disaster. so you'll be interested in what he has to say. >> good deal. thank you so much. >> there's a bit of a new feud brewing in politic ps and it involves the usually even tempered tim pawlenty. he's in a twitter war with one comedian and he's not holding

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>> normally when you talk about a candidate having an image problem, you're talking about somebody who's hypocrite call or somebody who, you know, lies too much or whatever. but this thing tim pawlenty has is completely different. his image problem people say is that he's dull. he puts people to sleep or he's boring or whatever. and, you know, it's kind of a tough position for him right now. but maybe what we're seeing is him trying to fix that problem. tweeting with conan can't hurt. conan tweeting this. is it too early to predict that pawlenty won't be a common halloween costume? pawlenty said wait until i unveil my team coco wig. it might even deliver iowa for me. back in conan.

if it hem heps you win iowa it's probably because iowans think it's corn silk. so there you go. he does have a sense of humor, but for the record, he's actually said he doesn't care people call him dull. he's been quoted as saying, if people want an entertainer in chief, they should vote for someone else. >> let's talk about peas. i want to hear the sound. >> if you haven't heard it, let's listen. >> it's not going to get easier, it's going to get harder. so we might as well do it now. pull off the band-aid. eat our peas. >> okay now, you get the meaning. but that statement prompted all kinds of political reactions including from the "l.a. times" which called on the president to give peas a chance. and then we got this comment from the