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thanks for joining us for tonight's special. join us in october for another special that will, well, you will not soon forget. let's just leave it that way. we'll leave you this way. good night good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight i sit down with one of the most beautiful people in the world. charlize theron. >> that is a very good taco. >> do you know how many times i have dreamt of having a taco with you? >> from glamour girl, one of esquire's sexiest women alive, she's smart, sexy, and she can tell a dirty joke and drink you under a table. >> i was raised by a broad. some of that rubbed off. >> a girl who went from a farm
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in south africa and went to hollywood stardom, won an oscar, brutally honest role as a serial killer. tonight, the as you have probably not seen her before. [ speaking foreign language ] >> wow, i didn't even know you fancied me. that's amazing. and the unforgettable story behind a new movie. this is "piers morgan tonight." all right. let's start with the obvious question -- how do you actually pronounce your name? >> charlize theron. >> that's the american way. >> yes. yes. it's how -- it's what i thought would be easier for people. >> what is the correct south african, dare i say it, after ri khan -- afrikan's way of pronouncing this? >> charlize theron.
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>> sexier. say that again. >> shar leez theron. >> you obviously were raised south african and presumably came to l.a. with a broad south african accent. and then you quite consciously went and taught yourself how to speak in an american accent, right? >> yeah, i mean, look, it was kind of -- i was kind of pushed into a corner. i started going out on auditions. and the feedback was always, she's really great but can she do it in an american accent. my english was very poor. and i still, you'll hear, i make a lot of grammar mistakes. >> you can speak south african fluently? >> every day. my mother lives two miles away from me. >> let's have a burst. come on. i would love for you to speak south african to me. [ speaking foreign language ] >> wow, i didn't even know you fancied me. that's amazing. that is incredible. so you speak it completely fluently? >> oh, i think more fluently
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than i speak english, yeah, definitely. >> well, ms. theron, woody harrelson got me very excited about intervying you. >> woody? >> yes, because he told "w" magazine a couple of years ago, charlize is not like a delicate girl, but she is a classic broad in terms of being incredibly talented and beautiful and can also tell more vulgar jokes than you and drink you under the table. any truth to the charge? >> there is no truth to this whatsoever. >> clearly there is. i cannot imagine you being vulgar? you seem like a nice girl. >> i wouldn't say vulgar, but i was raised by a broad, anld som of that rubbed off. i'm grateful for that. one day will smith said to me, what i like about you, chuck, is like you are from the white mouse to to get the ghetto.
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i thought that was one of the best compliments. >> great phrase. >> yeah. i mean, you know -- >> he calls you chuck? >> yeah. >> it's getting evermore complicated. you're going to have to restate your name now. >> i know, seriously. >> you can't have americans calling you chuck. >> no. >> they'll call everybody chuck if you give them half a chance. >> look, i love working with woody and we actually did a film together that was a true story of this very important sexual class action -- class action sexual harassment case that took place in minnesota. it was really heavy material. >> all of your movies have heavy stuff, and that is why i like you. you can just play conventional pretty blond stuff until you're 108. but actually you choose -- >> actually you can't do that until 108. that's why i chose this career because i want to actually work until i'm 108. and i don't think you can have longevity if you just kind of fall back on one aspect of what you are. >> you were always choose these challenging roles. they're always quite edgy, the ones that i've seen.
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they're always a little bit dangerous. you know, you take risks. i like that about you as an actress. it's never the safe route, is it? >> i don't think human beings are -- i think we're pretty complicated. i do think there's a lack of -- a lack of interest and willingness to explore the kind of not so attractive side of what it is to be a woman. and the fact that we don't want to necessarily as a society celebrate the fact that we are complex and that we are, you know, we're flawed. not all of us are perfect mothers and not all of us are perfect wives. we're complex. i felt that when "monster" came to me, the thing that was very clear to me is that it really read like something that de niro would get or some great guy would get to play this very conflicted character. and very few times in my career have i been given that opportunity to kind of tackle some -- a female that represents the conflict that i think is
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really very evident in who we are. >> what flaws do you have? if you don't mind me saying, too obvious. >> not me. i'm speaking of other women. no, i'm not talking about myself. i'm perfect. >> come on, let's get on the therapist couch here. >> oh, dear, god, what is this -- an hour show? >> yeah. we have plenty of time. seriously. >> i think we need another few hours. look, i am just as flawed as the woman next to me. i really am. i think that the great thing about aging has been the acknowledgement of my flaws. and i think it's kind of -- it's given me a sense of peace. and so, so far i'm really loving the aging process because that kind of wisdom of like really kind of understanding why you sometimes do the crap that you do or behave the way you do. >> do you really love the aging process? >> so far, i said. i said so far. >> is that because it is obviously treating you quite
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well? >> look, i'm only 35. my god! we're talking about this like i'm in my -- >> i didn't mention the aging process. >> no, i'm only 35, so i consider that pretty young. >> you haven't actually spelled out any flaws yet. >> okay. well, if you have to, if you really want to cover this. >> you raised it. >> i suffer from a bit of ocd. >> i know about this. closets have to be perfect. >> yeah. i'm a bit compulsive, yeah. >> you actually -- you stay awake at night worrying that someone's closet is -- >> i have a thing about things that are hidden. yeah, i have a hard time, especially when i'm like renting a house, if i'm working on a film and i don't know what's in all the -- i have to know what's in all the closets. this is so pathetic. i cannot believe we're talking about this. >> you're sounding really weird. this is great. you get to these random houses and what do you you do? >> the first thing i do is i inspect every closet and drawer. >> fantastic. >> and then i have to -- i have a -- like a -- it's just my organization.
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i don't say that this is just kind of how my head works. things that i -- like i have to put things where i think they belong in a room or how you kind of have that access to them. it's really pathetic. this is so bad. seriously. this is -- let's stop talking about it. i'm single. i need to find a man. >> this is not going to help. >> this is not going to help. guys all over america are going, who is this weirdo? >> exactly. >> let's move on. let's go back to the devil's advocate, which is the movie that kind of springboarded you into the a-list. let's have a little clip and watch this. >> you know, you buy a couple of new suits and you are fine. >> it is little more than that, mary. >> i have this whole place to fill and i know we've got all this money and it's supposed to be fun but it's not. it's like a test. the whole thing is like one big test.
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>> fascinating watching you because i know you don't like watching yourself, do you? >> i'm -- i have gotten a lot better. since i've been producing i've gotten a lot better with it. i hate my voice. i hate the way i sound. i think that was always -- >> it's not your real voice, that's the problem. >> maybe because it sounds very foreign. but since i've become a producer and i've had to sit in editing rooms for hours and watch footage be cut together, i think -- i think i've gotten better to kind of take myself out of it and really look at it as making a film and you kind of take all that weight off just yourself, which has been really great for me as an actor. >> you bring incredible intensity to this stuff. scared the life out of me. i'm just watching you from a monitor. you're like a raging volcano in some of these parts. >> a raging volcano who likes to clean. >> yes. the most weird type of raging volcano. >> look, that film, taylor hackford, the director of that
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film, cast me after several screen tests and auditions. and the studio didn't want me. the studio thought that i was too pretty. and taylor really fought for me. he really fought for me. and he's very much an actor's director and i really kind of -- i have to thank him because every moment on that set i never felt like i was treated like, you know, a new actor and didn't know anything. he really kind of gave me a stage where i could be a raging maniac. >> do you know how much money you've taken at the box office, in movies you've been in? >> god no. >> $800 million. >> wow. >> from 26 movies. >> wow. >> that's not bad, is it? >> that sounds good. >> nearly a billion dollars, you're the billion dollar woman. >> no, i don't -- i don't pay that much attention to that. >> you don't care how much they make with these films? >> i care. i want people to go and see my movies. i'm definitely not one of
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those -- >> if i could offer you a choice now, you can be a lead actress in a movie that's going to make $800 million in the next two months but it would be critically hammered, everyone is going to hate you in it, but the -- >> that wouldn't be the reason that i would choose it. >> no, you can have one or two scenarios o i could put you in a movie that is incredibly critically acclaimed in which you win awards for your acting, but it completely bombs at the box office. which one would you prefer at this stage in your career? >> i guess i would take the one that makes the billion dollars, but the critics don't care for because then i can go make seven of the ones that i love. >> that's fascinating answer. that's not what i thought you would say. but that's an honest answer. >> that's the business side of me. i understand how this industry works. what i will say in all honesty is that even though i understand how this machine is driven and how it works, i -- even in
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making the choices that i have on the bigger studio films, i feel really, really lucky that -- and i'm grateful that i have never really truly felt like i've done myself any -- i haven't compromised to the place where i feel uncomfortable. i've chosen those big movies with still a belief that there's something creative there that i like and the story telling or whatever it was. so -- it's not a complete sellout. >> no, i accept that. we'll take a short break. when we come back i want to talk to you about south africa where you grew up and about your mother who has been this heroic constant figure in your life. >> the broad. >> the broad. the other broad. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver
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i would like to welcome the cnn viewers and this is much of the country has tthat has rivete country, and the mother who was acquitted earlier this month in the murder of her daughter caylee anthony. we are live to florida seeing pictures that are the release of casey anthony, whether she is in the car or not, we do not know, but there has been quite a scene around the orange county courthouse where she has been expected to be released tonight. a crowd of people protesting her release, and many, many members of the media, as you can well imagine, and this coming about two weeks after she was acquitted of the murder of her daughter caylee anthony. a trial that went on for some time and riveted many people in the country. we are going to find out if she is in that car, and if she has definitely been released from
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prison, and we have a reporter standing by in orlando, florida, and we will get the answers to what the developments are there in orlando, florida, right after this.
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can i just give it to you straight -- we hear are the casey anthony may be freed at any moment, and we are told now that she is being released. this was a short time ago in orlando, florida, and there you see her walking out with guards in the pink shirt, and she has her attorney with her, and so that makes it certain that the car that we have been seeing driving away does have casey anthony inside. we have heard that may may have already released her, but they didn't want any media coverage whatsoever, because of threats made against casey anthony, and all of the attention toward her
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for her safety, but this is her walking out of prison a short while ago where she has been for some time during this long drawn-out trial, but now casey anthony is a free woman and she is headed to an undisclosed location somewhere in orlando, florida. the scene around the jail we are told has been people heckling her, yelling things about her release, protesting her release, of course, these situations always bring out the bizarre, and some people yelling things in favor of her, and those being in the minority, but again, we do not know where casey anthony is headed. her father has reportedly said that she is not welcome home.
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but we will continue to follow these developments as casey anthony is freed there in orlando, florida, this evening, and we will continue to follow developments and bring you more as we get them. >> what was the reality of life in south africa for you? pretty tough from everything i've read and heard from you. >> tough, but look, i had an incredible childhood in south africa. i grew up in a country with a lot of turmoil. and, look, i went through -- i lived in a country that went through probably one of the biggest historical changes in this, in my lifetime. now, with everything that's happening in north africa and in the middle east, like, it's probably the equivalent to that, but when apartheid was in 1991, and in '94 with the first free election and the first democratic election, that was
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like, that was a really huge thing. and i think it was when i was around 19, 20 that i truly understood. before that i didn't know anything different. but from traveling and understanding where i came from, i understood how what we had gone through as a country, and as a nation, but living when i was raised in south africa, i was raised somewhat isolated in a rural farm community. my parents had a road construction company, and they built a lot of the roads in south africa. and the farm was really just used for us to survive on, like food-wise, we grew and ate everything off of the land, but it was to hold the machinery for the road construction company, and also everybody who worked within the company lived with s us. i was an only child, i was raised with zulus and others and their children. >> an amazing experience. >> it really was. and i was only aware of what was going on in south africa through the fact that my parents were
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very much outspoken about politics. and that was kind of an every night event. having dinner and having my mom and my dad talk about the situation in south africa and politics, and also really witnessing racism through some of my friends and that knowledge of apartheid was very evident. so i think i was blessed to have the childhood that i -- you know, you have to kind of look at the glass half empty or half full. i grew up in a beautiful country with a lot of problems. i was raised by two great parents, a great mother who made me very much aware of having a political awareness of where you come from and also of the world. that i feel like a lot of my friends in america don't necessarily have because they were raised in a country that's been very fortunate. >> when i went to south africa last summer and went around the soweta township which is an
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incredible thing to do and it is millions of people living, and you would imagine, because they are living in such poverty that their spirit would be really low and depressed. but it couldn't have been more different. the joy i saw amongst these people who had really nothing, and it was really from hope, that hay hthey had been given hy nelson mandela and if ever a man should have complained about what had happened to him, certainly it is nelson mandela. yet he came out of prison and said we're not going to exact revenge, we're not going to have a bloody war. we're going to forgive and move on and we're going to be a country that unites. and that's exactly what's happened. >> and a lot of politicians can say that, but it will have no effect. and he actually has -- his cause and effect was brilliant. >> have you met him? >> yes, yes. >> when did you meet him?
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>> the first time i met him, i had just won the academy award. that was the first time i met him. >> what does he say to you? >> the nicest things that any icon or hero could possibly say to you. things that i'm so not deserving of. >> like what? >> just, you know, giving me credit for being a south african and putting south africa on the map, which i didn't, but i'll take that any day from nelson mandela. >> but it was a big deal for a south african to win an oscar. not many south africans have won oscars in that category over the years. >> none in that category. >> any other? >> yes. >> women? >> yeah. >> who else? >> i don't know about woman. >> quite something. >> it's pretty special. pretty special. yeah. for this farm girl, it's pretty special. >> pretty extraordinary. and i want to come after the next break to what i was going to get to but we got sidetracked, your mother, who is also, i think, probably you would say pretty special. >> mm-hmm. yeah. >> one of the reasons you're here. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing
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back now with charlize theron. charlize, there was this cataclysmic thing that happened to you. and i don't want to rake over the coals. i know that you've moved on from this and you've come to terms with it, but you talked fondly there of both of your parents and then one day you are 15 years old and you've come back home and this awful scene erupts where your father comes back
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with his younger brother, and they are both drunk and aggressive and your father has a gun, which most people in south africa did, and he actually starts shooting into a room where you and your mother are, and your mother gets a gun and shoots him dead. i cannot imagine a more dramatic, appalling thing to happen to parents that i would love in the way that you did. i don't want to go over the detal details, but in terms of the impact that it had in your life, how would you describe what happened afterwards? how much of it is down to what happened, if anything? >> look, i don't know. it's a great -- it was the great tragedy of my life. but i think that what follows is, i think, what normally follows when you go through something like a great loss or a shock. i'm not the first person and i won't be the last person on this earth to experience something like that.
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unfortunately a lot of people experience that kind of violence. is that you have to kind of find where you want yourself to be and how you want people to see you in this world. and i was blessed to have a parent that kind of guided me towards very healthy time period of mourning, of going through the confusion, going through the shock, going through the anger, going through all of the emotional things that you do when something like this happens to you. but really kind of guided me towards not being a victim and not going through my life feeling victimized. you know, i'm incredibly saddened by that night and saddened by the event. >> do you get nightmares from it? do you still have nightmares, flashbacks? does it haunt you? >> no, it doesn't haunt me. no, it doesn't haunt me at all. i'm completely at peace. >> your mother did an extraordinary thing. she sent you off with her
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blessing. she said get away from here. whatever happens to me, i don't want you part of this. i want you to get away and have a career, and you did. >> my mother is amazing. and i know all daughters or children will say this, that sounds very biased, but my mother is a very -- she's very unique. >> she saved your life when you were 2 years old. >> mm-hmm. >> you fell into a swimming pool, i think, and she dived in fully clothed. >> yeah. >> and pulled you out. and she saved your life again when you were 15. >> she saved my life many other times too. >> tell me about her. >> she -- you know what's incredible, she hates this. you know, my mom is a very, very private person, so she hates when i talk about her. but i will do this just to -- because, you know, we always just tend to talk about that night. and i think it is good for people to understand that my mother has this incredible
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ability to -- she has a resilience about her that i've never come across in any other human being. she has this incredible ability to truly understand and appreciate the value of life. and i'm not just saying it because of that experience, she had it before when i was growing up. not just because she went through an event where, you know, you kind of have to look at every single day, that it could be your last because these things do happen, but i'm not saying it in that sense. i'm saying from the time that i was a little girl, my mother had this appreciation, she celebrates life. and the interesting thing is, that she -- i don't understand where she got the tools to be the mother that she is, because she did not have a mother who was good to her. and so i'm -- i am -- i want to just -- i always feel like i
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want to praise her and kind of like sing her praises in some way, because i feel that it's wrong that that's the only kind of event that people always talk about. >> i mean the most remarkable thing that you can probably show people is your mother's strength in that time of terrible crisis for both of you and for the family. look where you are now. >> i think in my oscar speech i tried to say this, and i think i kind of lost it by then. but i tried to say that there were no words to describe how grateful -- how much i love her, but how grateful i am because of the things that she sacrificed for me in order to do all of this. she was completely alone. she was living on a farm by herself, which is one of the most dangerous things that you can do in south africa. and that went on for years, you know. but she encouraged me to go and chase a better life for myself. and i think, you know, another parent could have very easily have said no. >> obviously the strength of character you get from your mother, the independence and the talent no doubt. but there must have been things you got from your father.
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>> he was a fun guy. you know, he was a fun guy. you know, he liked to laugh. i remember him laughing a lot. god, yeah, i mean, look, i'm sure i'm -- i'm positive i'm from both of them, but i'm very -- i feel very similar to my mother. very, very similar to my mother. >> we're going to take another break. we're going to come back and talk about what you've given back to south africa now since you've been here, which has been an extraordinary thing that you've achieved, i think. [ diane lane ] is your anti-wrinkle cream gone...
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back with charlize theron, the charlize theron outreach project in south africa to reduce aids and violence in south africa where you have come from, and 12 years you have been doing this and you have had real success and achievement and tell me about this. >> well, we launched this program in 2007, but i started to work with the anti-rape, and the rape crisis center in south africa 12 years ago.
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when somebody told me, but at that time we were the rape capital of the world. rape is still a big issue in south africa. and when you talk about rape, you realize you are dealing with a country that is highly infected with hiv/aids. south africa, and the epidemic in south africa is the worst of any other country in the world. the number and premature deaths caused by hiv/aids has increased in the last decade from 39% to 75%. we are only one percent of the population, but 17% of people living with hiv/aids in the world. so when you start to hear things like that, for me, obviously, i'm south african, so it made sense for me, but i think that if i weren't a south african and i heard those numbers i would -- >> what is the main reason that you believe it is so bad in
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south africa, and what can be done to tackle it properly do you think? >> i think it is a lack of education. i really do. i believe it. and this program has made me aware of that. i think that we take for granted people knowing how to prevent hiv/aids. there is a lot of time and resources and money being poured into immediate care for people who are already positive and i think that is very important, but there's, we have a real problem with governments and donators not understanding the importance of prevention care. i think that to end this vicious cycle, we have to seriously start looking at prevention care, and it is all about education. i mean, when we launched this program in 2007, we started when we started the sex educational part of it, you know, culturally it is not accepted to talk about
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these things. it is taboo. and to start some kind of conversation with teenagers about sex was impossible. we would get these real amazing beautiful african mamas who would represent a mother figure to them who made it okay to talk about sex and condoms and prevention. and also, explore, you know, kind of to broaden the horizons of just making it about hiv and aids and finding the things that are integrated to that which is how you behave with a woman, and how you value a woman in your community, and what is sex and what is love and hygiene and all of these things? we started realizing that once they realized it was okay, they didn't know anything. they didn't have the tools or the knowledge. >> these t-shirts i have here, lively little numbers. tell me about these. >> well, they are amazing. this great group of people at give and take partnered up with us, and incredible people and i'm so grateful to them, and 50% of the proceeds of the t-shirts go to african outreach. >> how do you get them?
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you can go to our website at charli charlizeafricaoutreach.org and you can buy them there. >> and directly help? >> yes, and directly -- look, here is the thing. when i started this, you kind of go in very naively thinking that you can do a lot with little, but you need good access to donors and money, and i feel like people especially in this country want to help and do with the help so much. it is a question of kind of letting them know how to reach out. >> and what is the single biggest problem of the young in south africa just don't really want to use condoms or know much about them, is that the problem? >> it is knowledge. i think they want to use them, and we have a survey that we did on our program and 70% of all of our children who have access to condoms use them. again, i feel that -- i feel that we forget the importance of
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knowledge, of just purely, when we started the program i had a 16-year-old boy tell me that he was not going to be hiv positive. i said, good. why? and he said, because i have a condom and i wash it and use it. so it is little things like that that you wonder how many lives you can save if you tell, how many children you tell teenagers who are sexually active that you cannot reuse a condom and something as small as that. we have great data on what anti-retroviral drugs have done in africa, but we don't have great data on what prevention care has done. and can do. you know, it is something that is going to take maybe a whole generation to figure out. i think that is why we have a problem with donors and government supporting these kinds of program, because prevention care just kind of doesn't feel as necessary or as important as somebody who already is infected. and in saying all of this, i'm not taking away the importance of that, but i do feel that we
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can't just focus on one and negligent the other. and it is proven when you look at the statistics. >> it has been a pleasure to meet you. >> it is nice to meet you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, a hollywood mogul on the shocking new hollywood filmp. [ male announcer ] you have dreams for your children. don't let times like these stand in the way of them. protect your family with the gift of financial security. backed by the highest possible ratings for financial strength. new york life. the company you keep.
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the new movie "sarah's key" is a shocking story. joining me now the man behind the movie, harvey weinstein, the author of the book that inspired the film. tatiana, let me start with you, it is an extraordinary book, and it is an extraordinary film, and it exposes as i said there one of the dark secrets of the war, and particularly one of france's darkest secrets. tell me the genesis for how you came up with this? because i hear that it was incredibly difficult to even get the book published? >> yes, that is true. it took me two years to get the book published and rejected 20 times. this is the story of an american journalist married to a frenchman in france and she is going to be investigating for her magazine which is one of the darkest symbols. and while she is doing that, she will be unveiling a terrible family secret which links her french in-laws to a little girl
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called sarah, and the two stories come together with this family secret and that is how i wrote it. >> in a nut shell, the scandal is that a lot of parisians were collaborating with the nazis in the early '40s and basically shopping jews to the nazis. >> the scandal or the taboo rather is the fact that the french police collaborated so heavily with the nazis and it was hidden for such a long time if my country. proof of this is i was not taught about this in school growing up in france in the late '70s and early '80s it is now taught in school to young students. but for so long, it was a silence shrouding this event. >> it was in france and now came to america which is a smash hit. you've sold over 5 million copies of this book worldwide. even though it's a taboo subject, the fascination is huge. harvey, if i could bring you in here. what was it about the story here that grabbed your attention? >> i loved tatiana's book and
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this is a story that is particularly relevant to me. i had lost relatives and it's a story that i never get tired of hearing about. there are always new facets to it. it's done as journalist investigating almost a detective story, almost a thriller. and it always gets me rowed up when we'll say, oh, another one of those movies, you know. well, why not? this is something that's so fascinating and something that we should never forget. >> i want to show a clip now from the movie, and then we'll discuss this afterwards. >> in july 1942. >> 16th and 17th of july '42 they arrested 13,000 jews. mostly women and children. they took 8,000 of them, put help in the village in inhuman conditions. >> imagine the superdome in new orleans, only a million times worse. >> a million times worse, and then they send them to the c
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camps. >> i mean, tatiana, harvey is right. there is always a sniping that comes up when there is another holocaust movie, but certainly, from my point of view, how can there ever be enough movies about that atrocity, and what do you hope that the movie will achieve? the book has had a huge impact, but the movie makes it to a new level i would think. >> well, the movie is very faithful to my book. the young director did a wonderful job sticking to my book. and i was so relieved that i didn't find that my sarah and my julia had not changed. secondly, i want to say that i think the movie of that importance is another way to be able to tell young generations about what happened. using the vehicle of emotions, this is a very emotional movie. as it was and it is an emotional book but it's also sticking to fact. this is exactly how it happened. people can learn from it. as harvey said, we need to remember this and we need to explain to younger generations what happened so it doesn't happen again. >> how has it gone down in france? i would imagine there's a split view, people who are very
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pleased that you've exposed this and others are so ashamed and embarrassed by it. they wish you had never opened up your mouth. >> well, it has done very well in france as well. the movie came out in october last year and it was a big success there, too. and this book is the still selling very well and it is taught and actually read in schools now by young students and i often meet them and go with the survivors to the schools to talk to the students. that is very important the be doing that. >> harvey, you made a lot of important movies in your time, but what does this rank for you personally? >> well, it ranks strongly with me, because the subject matter is so personal, but again, i hate the critics who keep saying stuff like that, and it is like haven't we had enough superhero movies? i can think of haven't we had enough dumb raunchy comedies and a lot more horrendous categories they would like to see not on celluloid, and they are a waste as far as i'm concerned.
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this is a good epic story and a story that educates, but entertains at the same time. it is a thrilling movie, and a movie that one of the movies that i'm most proud. >> and kristen scott thomas plays the star of the film the american writer living in paris and why go for her, harvey? >> well, kristen scott thomas who i first worked with on "the english patient" is one of the smartest and best ak tresctressd we have done four or five movies together, and she brings the truth to the movie, and the validity as well. she has lived in paris as well and when you see her, you see the truth and feel the pain and the suffering and also the humanity and optimism that she brings to the movie. it is a very optimistic movie. >> i am sure that harvey will
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agree with me, that the young girl who plays sarah is an amazing actress. this is a big role for her and she is 10 years old and when i met her on the first time at the set and she came up to me and said, i'm your sarah. she was. this is all of the sudden there in front of me the little girl i had imagine and brought to life in my book, and there she was. she is, you will see, a wonderful actress and so poignant. >> it is not often that writers are that enthusiastic about the movie version, because hollywood gets a grip, and ruins it. >> well, i have a special message for my readers and i have 3 million readers in america, and i want to say, if you love this book, go see it, and don't be afraid, because if i, the author, have come from paris, france, to tell you to believe it, go see this movie and you will love it. >> it is a powerful story and had to be exposed and i congratulate you for doing that. >> merci. >> and when does the film get
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that has hat has got to go, and the pearls. but the main thing is your voice. it is too high and it has no authority. >> i may be persuaded to surrender the hat, but the pearls, however, are absolutely nonnegotiable. that's the tone if we want to strike. >> it's the first exclusive clip from harvey weinstein's fourthcoming movie about margaret thatcher "the iron lady." harvey, another fascinating movie project which is the first project about the first lady margaret thatcher called "the iron lady," her nickname for so
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many years. so tell me about the film. >> i think that plays margaret thatcher is not the word. conjures margaret thatcher, transforms margaret thatcher. it's truly, you know, i'm blessed this year to have meryl streep as margaret thatcher and michelle williams as marilyn monroe and you will see a surprise performance by this woman andrea rice borough as wallace simpson in madonna's movie she directed. but margaret thatcher would probably be the last subject matter that i thought i would be involved with, and yet, it was incredibly fascinating journey of margaret that mucher. >> did you ever meet margaret thatcher? >> i never did, but as a liberal democrat, i certainly spent many years detesting her. >> i met her a few times. i was not too far removed from that, and i met her a few times. she used to take her bony fingers and they were quite long and bony and actually poke them hard into my chest. i mean she really was the real deal. it was like meeting a sort of female mike tyson. >> well, you know, piers, when you look back at some of the
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decisions, she had some of the toughest in british history and you might not have agreed with the diplomacy, shall we say, but my god, when you look back in retrospect, those decisions turnede some of the best decisions ever made for the benefit of england. >> the great thing about margaret thatcher, whichever side you were on, and she's now in her 80s and sadly is pretty frail these days so we don't get to hear from her very often. i was always a huge fan of her personally as a leader. whatever you thought of your decision making she took decisions and she stuck to them. and that i think is often the greatest characteristic of any leader, isn't it. >> she put her principles first. you see the this quite clearly in this movie. you know, it's really fun to watch meryl do margaret thatcher transform into margaret thatcher and to play it across, you know, 30, 40 years of her history. it's spectacular. some of this is just, you know, spectacular. >> how are your liberal friends