i'll tell him that you sent loves and hugs and kisses. >> oh, my god. you've just made my skin crawl. daniel baldwin, thank you very much indeed. good saturday morning. we are following several developing stories for you this morning, including in norway. at least 91 people are dead in two attacks and police think that one man may have done them both. in one attack, a bomb blast in the capital targeting a complex. the other attack, the shooting at a youth camp. more than 80 people dead. many of them teenagers, gunned

down by a man dressed as a police officer. also developing today in washington d.c., we have now just over a week until the government won't be able to pay all of its bills and president obama says he has been left at the altar. yesterday was an extraordinary day in washington d.c. the president and the house speaker in the day by calling each other out in news conferences. also in washington d.c., congress failed to authorize funding for the federal aviation administration. you know the faa? the agency in charge of keeping you and me safe when we fly. thousands of people could now be out of work. officials say this will not threaten your safety if you fly. we will get into all of that from the cnn center. this is your cnn saturday morning for july 23rd. noon in oslo, norway.

we need to start with the breaking news out of norway. 91 people are dead at the hands of what may have been a lone gunman. look at the pictures. when i describe this, this may bring to mind memories of timothy mcveigh in oklahoma city. we are talking norway here. first off in the series of events, there was a massive explosion in oslo, the capital. those are the pictures from the blast. then an attack on a youth camp on an island 20 miles away from oslo. witnesses say this is the man responsible. his name is anders breitik. he gathered to hear more about the initial bombing. they say he fired into the crowd. he then fired into the water as people tried to swim to get away. listen to one survivor. >> he was yelling he was going

to kill all. we will all die. he pointed his gun at me. he did not pull the trigger. he left and returned a few hours later and a few hours gathered around me. then people started running around because they did not know where to run. he suddenly showed up and he shot almost everyone. >> all right. our diana magna is near utoya island. diana, how could one carry out this attack and plan both events? are police still sticking to the theory that one man carried out both of the an attacks? >> reporter: they are not ruling out the possibility, t.j., that he could have others helping

him. he is the only suspect in custody. he will be charged for the shootings on utoya and the bombing at the capital. the huge explosion in the center of oslo an at the time when people were leaving for the weekend. a huge path there gave him a decoy to come on to the island dressed as a police officer with heavy guns on him. saying that he wanted to come and do a security check on the island. that is how he managed to get the boat over without arousing suspicion. when he landed on the island, he fired. as we know from the eyewitness testimony as we just heard. he was shooting for a long time. he was on the island for longer than an hour before police got to him in that time shooting for

most of it. the eyewitness said there was a lull of 15 minutes. people running desperately to try to get away from him. swimming as fast as they could to get away and the gunman shooting into the water at him and screaming as he shot. it is impossible to imagine the horror. >> diana, it is important to remind the viewers this is a youth camp. the political organization has put this on for decades. a lot of young people there. diana, do we have any idea right now about a motive and how much do we know about this suspect and his background? >> reporter: we know that he is a 32-year-old ethnic norwegian he was spriebed by police. from his workings, we know he subscribed to a mainstream right

wing ideas. we know he owned a farm where he could have caused or accumulated a lot of fertilizers which he could have used to plant the explosives. there are still many questions as to what specific motive might have will led him to target the government so directly. first of all, by directing the government's offices and the buildings in central oslo. the youth camp. this is the summer camp of the youth. the prime minister in a press conference today always described it as having been his paradise. it had now been turned into a nightmare for the entire country. t.j. >> diana magnay, we appreciate

you as always. let's turn back to the u.s. you may not believe what was going on in washington d.c. last night. maybe you were out last night at the movies or out having dinner. doing something with the family. let me tell you what the leaders of the free world were doing. they were dueling it out on the debt ceiling. just a week before we actually have some problems and won't be able to pay our bills. you are looking at a live picture at the white house. it is another extraordinary day. the president has called congressional leaders back to the white house at 11:00 a.m. this morning to try to hammer out a deal or at least explain to him how they plan on raising the debt ceiling and keeping the country from defaulting. both sides keep saying they are confident they will get a deal done before august 2nd, but they seem to be waiting for the other

guy to blink. nobody is blinking right now. take a listen to both sides from last night. >> my expectation was that speaker boehner was going to be willing to go to his caucus and ask them to do the tough thing, but the right thing. i think it has proven difficult for speaker boehner to do that. i have been left at the altar now a couple of times. >> dealing with the white house is dealing with a bowl of jell-o. the white house moved the goal post. they refused to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices on entitlement reform. that is the bottom line. >> all right. i want to bring in our white house correspondent brian brianna keilor. i described it as an extraordinary day of events. some details about what was going down will blow your mind. including the fact that president obama says he could not get a call back from the

house speaker yesterday. a lot was made of that point. a lot of these details, are we getting too much into the weeds? do we need to read something into that? maybe we have taken another turn in the wrong direction in the debt talks? >> reporter: should we read into the phone call is your question? i think president obama says he tried to call the speaker and it took several hours. the president was irked on this point because some of our sources say the speaker was actually talking to reporters or briefing reporters before he made the call to the president. we have seen here over the last couple of months see them play golf and get together in private meetings. some joked that the bro-mance is

over. the personalities here. there is a collapse here. i think what is important in the big picture is it was groundhog's day over the collapse although yesterday was a very dramatic day. that is tax increases. when you heard the speaker saying that the president had moved the goal post, he was talking about an insistence on $400 billion in tax increases that he said essentially the white house put there on the table at the last minute. then you heard from president obama yesterday, a very frustrated president obama, that he did not understand why the speaker was walking away from really what the white house sees as a sweet deal considering how much it has wrinkled the rank and file. you heard the president say he felt like he had been left at the altar by speaker boehner. let's listen to both sides. >> i just got a call about a

half hour ago from the speaker himself. can they say yes to anything? we have now put forward a package that would significantly cut deficits and debt. it would be the biggest debt reduction package we have seen in a long time. it is hard to understand why speaker boehner would walk away from this kind of deal. >> the discussions have broken down is for two reasons. first, we had an agreement on a revenue number. a number we thought we would reach based on a flatter tax code with lower rates and a broader base. secondly, they refused to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices that are facing our country on

entitlement reform. that is the bottom line. >> reporter: so where do things go from here? the speaker is essentially cutting these things out and walking away and will be looking for a solution with congress, t.j., the white house sidelined here as the speaker is working out something with congress. at the same time, we have a meeting at 11:00 a.m. where the president will press the importance as we get closer to the date without any sort of resolution to the situation. >> okay, for clarity here, brianna, he walked away. the whole story was boehner walked away from the talks. the president, like we are mentioning here, you get your tail back over to the white house today. what are they hoping to accomplish today? >> reporter: you know, i think more than anything, this is sort

of stressing the response of coming to an agreement and even though a lot of the details are going to be worked out by congress, i think the president is going to be certainly pushing them to do something and do something quickly. the sense is that something needs to be done over the weekend. so i think that is really -- the president has taken this role. it is no mistake. he has taken this role, t.j., showing himself as the compromiser and managing the kids who are having an argument. i would not be surprised if we see more of that today. >> brianna keilar, good to have you with us this morning. talk to you soon. 13 minutes past the hour. other big news out of washington d.c. is the faa is getting no money. congress left without re-authorizing funding for the federal aviation administration. the faa. what does this mean? it means, according to the

transportation secretary ray lahood, he says air safety will be fine because air traffic controllers will stay on the job, but another 400,000 airport workers will not have a job. >> one of the highest unemployments is in the construction trades. why do we want to layoff or suspend more construction workers and our 4,000 employees who do a lot of good work are also going to be suspended. they live on a paycheck. they have budgets to meet. we have the best aviation system in the world. this is not the way to run it. >> the problem? why departmeidn't they approve funding? the republicans want them to unionize. 14 minutes past the hour. reynolds wolf joins us. he tells us the story about the

weather. you said it is simple. heat. >> simple. one of the places where it is worse is out of washington d.c. the first couple of stories you talked about this morning dealt with d.c. it is warm there. it is not to do with politics, but the triple digit temperatures. it will feel like 100 to 120 degrees in places. there may be a little bit of cooler weather ahead. we will talk about that coming up. you are watching cnn saturday morning. stay cool. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. really? 25 grams of protein. what do we have?

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seaboard. we are talking about millions of people who have been dealing with the prolonged heat. that is a problem. it is not that it is warm, because it is warm in the summer. it is the lingering heat. >> we had several deaths associated with the heat. >> we may see more of the problem take place today. take a look at the numbers. some of these are the highs. hartford at 98 degrees. 100 in new york. you have to refocus and realize we are talking about the northeast. this is not southeast. it will be humid. atlantic city at 103. baltimore at 1104. 95 in cincinnati. 91 in cleveland. we have a bit of good news. the good news we have is that we do expect a few changes to take place in the forecast. the changes will come in terms of high pressure moving a little

bit more to the southeast. you weill see the reason for th heat. the heat dome or the high pressure which is causing problems for the atmosphere. in terms of a front to transform the atmosphere in that area, it will not happen unless the high pressure system moves. we are forecasting that over the next several hours and the next day or so. we expect that hot mass of air to drift to the south. when that occurs, that will allow the frontal boundary to drift a bit to the southeast. sunday looks like it is cooler for boston and washington. i have to tell you, t.j., with all of the heat as you imagine, many people are trying to deal with the massive heat in the northeast. they are doing so in creative ways. >> here we go. you have to like that. a fire hydrant cools people

down. it has been so hot in columbus, ohio, southbound lanes of 23 closed down when parts of the roadway buckled. in new york, the situation is bad there, too. health advisories are in effect for four beaches. they had to stay away because of waste water contamination. the advisories will last through monday on those beaches. with the heat soaring past the triple digits, cooling centers are being opened to help people deal with it. we often think about people. we have to think about animals. this is a horse that was sent in from ontario, canada. this is a horse who is smart enough to stand in the sprinkler. animals like people have to deal with the heat. >> that is old school with the fire hydrant. that is old school. is that legal?

can you tamper with a fire hydrant? >> i am not going to say anything. >> are you supposed to mess with it? >> it does depend on the jurisdictions. i think in some places, the heat is oppressive and you live in an area where people don't have air conditioning. >> i was curious. >> pinning the man down. >> i'm sorry. thank you, reynolds. can you imagine your state making millions and millions of dollars by selling your personal information? you want to make a fuss about it? there is nothing wrong with it. also, police in los angeles make new arrests in the beating of a san francisco giants fan. and a man already behind bars turns out he did not do it. stay here. the details coming up on this cnn saturday morning. [ carrie ] i remember my very first year as a teacher,

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22 minutes past the hour now. police in los angeles have arrested three new san peduspec the beating of the man outside dodgers stadium. the suspect, it turns out originally, was not. brian stow was nearly beaten to death in march. in may, police nabbed this man and blamed him. they made new arrests. 29-year-old luis sanchez and

marvin norwood. listen to l.a. officials as they gave an update about the case. >> we come here to answer to the public and be transparent in everything we do both as we did initially and now. let me be absolutely clear that we said then that the investigation was ongoing. >> this is about character. this is about the character of the police department and our ability when it reflects badly on us to do the right thing. that is what we did in this case. >> brian stow, the victim, is still in the hospital in san francisco. he has extensive brain damage. 91 people, including many teenagers, massacred in norway. police say one man may have been responsible. we are taking another look at what norway's prime minister is calling the worst violence his country has seen since the

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we have the morning passport. you bring us stuff we can smile about, but not today. the attacks in norway. and he attacked a youth camp. why would someone go after a youth camp? >> the labor party is the ruling par party. the majority is labor. actually utoya island is owned by the youth league. you ask if we something like this in the united states. the boys and girls clubs of america and the boy and girl scouts. they train with the philosophy and clearly that became a target. as young as 13. it is interesting to note in norway, there is military

service for young men after school and it is between 6 and 12 months. not women, but men. south africa used to be like that. there was military service. one assumes that is where he learned to be a proficient shooter. >> they say this has happened on the island for decades. you are talking about 80 plus people killed at a youth camp. is it fair to assume, as early as 13, but all of these are teenagers. the victims. >> the teenagers. we just heard from a member of parliament to talk about the fact he escaped. you talk about the youth camp where people from the labor party will be talking. we don't know the exact description. yes, all parents who are watching today, imagine sending your child away to summer camp

in a safe place. utoya island. nothing has happened like this since world war ii. a young man walks in and they are not as suspicious as we are in america. there isn't that sense of security because nothing like this has ever happened before. a man walks in and wreaks havoc. >> the man actually was trying to gather people around. people were trying to get an update about the bombing that had just taken place in oslo. they thought he was a safe guy and gathered people around. he was there for a while. shooting up to an hour on the island. >> that is what they say. nobody else appears in the region to be armed. if you think about it here when we had the horrific incident with the congresswoman being shot. this remains an unfolding story. >> nadia, thank you.

we will see you throughout the morning. coming up at the bottom of the hour. this back and forth in washington d.c. we see it a lot in washington. it is hard to surprise you about what happens in d.c., yesterday will surprise you. john boehner likening the white house to the bowl of jell-o. the president saying he could not get a call back from the house speaker. we are hearing from both sides. today is another extraordinary day in d.c. a meeting coming up in a few hours. stay with us. rapid wrinkle repair.® its retinol formula smoothes wrinkles in just one week. why wait if you don't have to. neutrogena®. with less chronic low back pain. imagine living your life with less chronic osteoarthritis pain.

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and called each other out last night on the debt ceiling. it resulted in boehner walking away from the debt talks. that was really what got this whole thing going. he said he did not want to negotiate with the white house anymore. he will turn to capitol hill. president obama called him right back to the white house with other congressional leaders today. that meeting will take place at the white house here in just a few hours. let me now let you listen to the back and forth. the tit-for-tat that you missed last night. >> that is what the american people are looking for. is some compromise. >> they refuse to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices that are facing our country on entitlement reform. listen, that is the bottom line. >> the only bottom line that i have is that we have to extend this debt ceiling through the next election. into 2013. >> i just want to tell you what

i said several weeks ago. dealing with the white house is like dealing with a bowl of jell-o. >> it is hard to understand why speaker boehner would walk away from this kind of deal. >> when you get into the negotiations, sometimes it is good to back away from the tree and take a look at the forest. >> i think that one of the questions that the republican party will have to ask itself is, can they say yes to anything? >> i think we can work together here on capitol hill to forge an agreement. i'm hopeful that the president will work with us on that agreement. >> so, here is what we will do. we have now run out of time. i told speaker boehner. i have told democratic leader nancy pelosi. i have told harry reid and i have told mitch mcconnell that i want them here at 11:00 tomorrow. we have run out of time. they will have to explain to me

how it is we will avoid default. >> all right. you heard the president say it. after the two men called each other out in the press conferences, still, the president says get back over here to the white house today at 11:00 a.m. that is what is happening today. the house speaker, john boehner, says he will, in fact, be there. let me bring in brianna keilar. it sounded like the president was giving them a homework assignment. you come here and explain it and break it down to me. is that what he wants to see? >> reporter: it struck me. i would go with the school analogy. this is the principal saying you get your butt in here in a way. right? this is an emergency meeting after these talks have collapsed. you heard president obama there is a i want these leaders to come and say how we will not default on august 2nd. when house speaker boehner decided that he wasn't going to

pursue the discussions anymore with the white house, he said he will be pursuing discussions with the congress and the congressional leaders in the senate. he will work toward an agreement with them. certainly, president obama is not just going to abdicate all responsibility for that. and say go work that out. t.j., we are 11 days out. we saw a frustrated president obama last night. i would not be surprised if we hear about that again today in the back door meetings. >> it is strange, brianna, in john boehner saying, you step out of it, we got it. it is strange to kick the president out of the negotiations. at the same time, maybe all of the talking should have been going on on capitol hill in the first place where the deal making needs to get done. >> reporter: i think they were trying to work towards something bigger, obviously the house

speaker and the president and ultimately, were not able to do that. i think you sensed the frustration. john boehner said working with the white house is like dealing with a bowl of jell-o. he is saying they changed the goal post. they came to an agreement on tax cuts which is a huge issue. at the last minute, the president said we need $400 billion more in tax increases. that is difficult for rank and file republicans in the house that john boehner has to corral. you know, he had a sense there is no way they will accept that. on the other hand, you have president obama saying that he has been left at the altar. you have seen the speaker walk away from meetings twice now. walk away from the negotiations twice now. we saw the number two republican in the house, eric cantor. he walked away from the biden talks. there is a lot of frustration on both sides. >> a lot of walking away being done. everybody going back to the white house. we will see you plenty

throughout the morning. we will try to get into it more, brianna. the $400 billion. that is a small amount, relatively speaking, to keep a deal from happening and prevent the u.s. from defaulting. brianna, good to see you. >> reporter: thank you. 38 minutes past the hour. let's turn now to the story of norway. the breaking story for us this morning where many people still in shock after yesterday's horrible attacks. there were two of them. you are looking at the first one here. this is the aftermath here in the capital of oslo. a bomb exploded. several people killed there. at least 70. 90 more were injured. that was the beginning. the horror then turned to teenagers. police believe this man you are seeing, anders breivik, went to

utoya island where a youth camp was going on there. witnesses say he just opened fire on the people at the camp. listen to one survivor. >> people approached him as he was actually shooting because they thought maybe this was a drill or this was a test or maybe something. nobody expected this to be for real because how can this happen in a summer camp in norway? he was yelling out to these people. i was maybe five or seven meters away from him as he was yelling he was going to kill all and we all should die. >> 84 people were killed on that island. some had tried to swim away, but the gunman was actually shooting into the water at them. now the suspect will be charged in both attacks.

right now, police are saying he is responsible for both, but they are not ruling out the possibility that he did have help. listen to this story. we are getting out of washington state. a seven-term congressman is now being accused of an unwanted sexual encounter. we are talking about that man. 56-year-old congressman david wu. according to the state newspaper there, "the oregonian." he is accused by a recent high school graduate. this alleged incident reportedly happened at thanksgiving and involved a daughter of a long-time donor. wu has been ducking questions about the accusations for days. late last night, a spokesman issued this response for the congress member. "this is a very serious situation and i have no desire

to bring unwanted publicity, attention or stress to a young woman and her family." that was all to the statement. not a lot of questions, necessarily, answered in that statement. probably raised a few more questions. 42 minutes past the hour. one state is making a lot of money by selling your personal information. the state we are talking about is the good folks of florida. $63 million last year selling names and addresses. also for sale? dates of birth and what kind of car you drive. no social security numbers, they say. here is who can buy access. car companies for recalls. government agencies, private investigators. some can opt out. listen to this. >> depending on who you are, there are some professioning that you have the opportunity to opt out. when they decide to do that, the

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we are quarter to the top of the morning. good morning to you folks in new york city. just about every friend and colleague i have in new york has complained, reynolds, to me this week about the heat in new york. it looks like they have good reason to do so. >> it has been crazy. it is more than just an inconvenience. it is dangerous. we are at that point where the heat and humidity and combination can take a toll on people. if you have to get outside and exercise, you are dedicated in running, get out in the early morning hours. when the sun goes down, it seems it will be cooler. if you happen to live in the city, the steel will trap the heat after the sun goes down. the highs of the day are 93 in minneapolis. 100 in kansas city. 101 in dallas. in new york city, the high is expected to be 100. 103 in boston. 103 in washington, rather.

98 in boston. that doesn't factor in the high humidity. changes may be on the horizon. here is the reason why. we have the big dome of high pressure. see how well it works? sometimes it gets so warm, it cannot make it expand. let's wrap this up. this is what we are expecting as the area of high pressure is dropping to the south. when it does, it will allow cooler air to move in. for the nation's capital, temperatures cooling from the 100s and back into the 90s and 80s on monday and tuesday. speaking of washington d.c., the potomac, they have the manassas junction. if you are a civil war fan, bull run. the 150th anniversary took place recently. when the battle first took place, it was 80 degrees. you have people wearing the wool

uniforms that were typical for both sides. these guys are dedicated. they are going out and dealing with the extreme heat. just brutal conditions out there. make sure we are in the right position with plenty of water and taking it easy. it could be a fun time if you are going out as a spectator. same rules apply. take it easy out there. >> wow. what is the temperature in d.c.? >> it will be about 100 degrees. where they are it is about 102. you have the high humidity and you are wearing wool. 100% wool. >> they did not synthetic stuff. >> robert e. lee was not a fan. >> reynolds, i appreciate it. he will keep you updated throughout the morning. i appreciate you. thank you. we are getting close to the top of the hour. nfl owners have approved a deal to get the league up and running

again. that is great news. players say hold on. we have been hood winked. they have not voted yet. so now what?

ten minutes to the top of the hour here on this cnn morning. it looked like we had good movement with the nfl and the players after the nfl owners signed off on a collective bargaining agreement. the players have not voted to approve it yet. what do we do now, joe carter? >> reporter: t.j., nfl fans

hoped to hear something on friday. no one will take a vote and no one will know the next step because the players association has decided not to speak on friday out of respect to the myron kraft kaim. players leadership is discussing the most written proposal for addressing recertiserecertifica. mrs. kraft is the wife of patriots owner robert kraft. she passed away earlier this week. many attended her funeral on friday. this means it will be a very busy and critical weekend for the players. the owners have set out a specific time line. agree to the new collective bargaining proposal by tuesday and recertify by tuesday and the football season will start on time.

if they don't agree to it and recertify as a union, you could see more games canceled in addition to the pro football hall of fame game which is canceled on august 7th. t.j. >> we will talk about the lockout and possible vote from the players with a falcons player. you will want to stick around. it is a story that we are maybe not talking enough about but, you need to hear it. somalia is suffering once again from a devastating famine. people are starving and now some of the groups in that country that rule that country are keeping some international aid groups out. saying the help can't come to the people who desperately need it. i'll talk to an international aid worker.

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declared. somalia's president is begging for help. >> translator: the situation is severe and the conditions are harsh. we are requesting that the international community assist the somalias. we request help. >> how oftundreds of thousands starving people are on the move. some to refugee camps to ethiopia. a group linked controls large areas of sudan by al qaeda. they say they will block famine aid. this is a complicated and risky job for international agencies. joining me now from kenya is kelly. she is from the international aid community. thank you for being with us. tell me it is a difficult enough

task to deal with people who are starving. how much more difficult is it being made because you have this al qaeda group saying they are banning some aid agencies from coming in to help? >> the international rescue committee works in somalia. we are able to access the populations through different livelihoods and activities. the issue of agencies being blocked from providing aid does mean that more discussions need to take place about how to be creative and get assistance to people who are in need of services and food. >> i'm going to take this down to a very, i guess, simplified conversation. it may seem silly, but we know that hunger and food and security is an issue in many places around the world. certainly in somalia and this area of africa. but it goes up to another level when a famine is declared.

tell me the significance of a famine being declared and actually what that really means. what is a famine? >> well, in terms of the work that we are doing, it doesn't matter what it is declared because people are without food right now. that is what we are focusing on. a famine is declared when malnutrition rates exceed a several level. that is why this is a famine in certain parts of somalia. as i said, right now, it doesn't matter to the person on the ground who doesn't have food whether it is a famine or not. we are trying to focus on the food crisis and also where i'm working in the refugee camp and making sure when people cross the border and they are able to get the services they need. also in addition to the need for

food, it is also really important that it is coupled with the need for health care as well. we find when a big word like famine is thrown about, people are dying more of disease than starvation. >> ma'am, is money drying up as well? the u.k., some leaders there were complaining that other countries needed to step up. also, you have a lot of countries that are in dire economic straits themselves. is money becoming an issue? >> actually, i want to highlight the fact that this is a situation that has -- the refugee situation and the drought was upcoming. we knew about this for the last number of months. we have been preparing ourselves for it. with the refugee influx, we had 30,000 people come into kenya each year for the last couple of years. in terms of money, i have to say all this media attention is at least getting people to pay attention to it.

more governments to pay that tensi attention to it. we ask more governments to step up. i know it is dire circumstances with the countries and economic situations. nothing compares to what you see on the ground in the refugee camp with people literally starving as they enter the camp. we have to be aware of the need to give more funding for that to address the needs going forward. >> kellie leesom, we appreciate you taking the time to speak with us. thank you as well for the work you are doing. it is work that quite frankly, a lot of people would not sign up for. still, we appreciate you and hope to talk to you in the future. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i want to you hear this. you can go to cnn.com and our impact our world page. you can learn more about the story and find out more about

how you can help out. we are just at the top of the hour. we will reset for you after the break and give you the latest on several developing stories this morning. still developing stories. including in washington d.c. and also in norway where a number of people killed. 90. after a youth camp was attacked. [ man ] they said i couldn't win a fight.

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ceiling? what should you do to prepare? ladies, how tall are you? your height may have a connection to your chances of developing cancer. we will explain that. good morning. i'm t.j. holmes. i'm glad you are here with us on this cnn saturday morning. can you believe what was going on in washington d.c. last night? maybe you were out last night watching a movie or having dinner. the leaders of the free world were bickering. back and forth in dueling news conferences. both sides blaming each other for no deal on the debt ceiling. at the white house, the president will sit down with the congressional leaders although john boehner, the house speaker, walked away from the talks yesterday. the president called him back to the white house today. 11:00 this morning. a few hours from now is when they will go back. both sides are confident a deal will get done before the august

2nd deadline. they seem to be waiting for the other guy to blink. listen to both sides from last night. >> my expectation was that speaker boehner was going to be willing to go to his caucus and ask them to do the tough thing, but the right thing. i think it has proven difficult for speaker boehner to do that. i have been left at the altar now for a couple of times. >> dealing with the white house is dealing with a bowl of jell-o. they moved the goal post. they refused to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices that are facing our country on entitlement reform. that is the bottom line. >> all right. let me bring in our white house

correspondent. brianna keilar. what is going to happen today? >> reporter: this is an emergency meeting. we heard the speaker say he is walking away from discussions with the white house and now he is turning to congress. he will work out a deal with senate leaders and, t.j., they have been working on a more modest plan that mitch mcconnell and harry reid have been working on. that will be the basis for the discussions. this is the president calling all of these folks back and he said he is going to say to them, explain to me how you plan to increase the debt ceiling because we are several days out here and there is not a clear path to an agreement, t.j. it is getting nerve wracking. >> we have been watching this closely than most americans have. you and i, certainly, watching every minute of this. last night, it just seemed to take a weird turn, brianna, with the dueling news conferences and

the president cannot get a call back from speaker boehner. this one felt different to me. >> reporter: this was and that is because you have seen the dynamic between the two men, president obama and house speaker john boehner. they laid off the sharp barbs. you have house speaker boehner reiterating a point. it is like jell-o. they are not serious. you heard president obama talking about being left at the altar. white house officials tell us he had tried to get a hold of the speaker earlier in the day and waited several hours. then the white house said they are very upset about the timeline because they understand the speaker was talking to reporters before he called the president to let him know he was backing away from the table. >> brianna keilar, we will see

you again here shortly. a meeting coming up at the white house. thank you so much. the other big story from washington d.c. the faa getting no money. why? congress took off last night without reauthorizing funding for the federal aviation administration. the transportation secretary ray lahood says air safety is fine. they say the air traffic controllers, although the faa is out of money, will stay on the job. around 4,000 employees won't be getting paychecks for now. also some construction projects at airports will have to stop. >> one of the highest unemployments is in the construction trades. why do we want to layoff or suspend more construction workers and our 4,000 employees who do a lot of good work will also be suspended. they live on a paycheck and they

have budgets to meet. we have the best aviation system in the world. this is not the way to run it. >> what is the hold up? what is the problem? the house republicans wanted to make it harder for transportation employees to unionize. they want to cut subsidies for rural airports. we are ten minutes past the hour. turning to a breaking story out of norway where at least 91 people are dead at the hands of what may have been a lone gunman. this kind of attack brings up and the images bring back memories of timothy mcveigh in oklahoma city. let's explain here. this is what you are seeing and it is a result of a first massive explosion in oslo, the capital. then came an attack at a youth camp on an island about 20 miles away. in that attack, anders breivik, got a group to gather and he

fired into the crowd and he fired into the water as people tried to run and swim to safety. here is one survivor. >> he was yelling he was going to kill all and we all should die. so, he pointed the gun at me, but he did not pull the trigger. he left and returned maybe an hour later when a few other people found me and gathered around me. the people started running around because they did not know where to run. he suddenly showed up and he shot almost everyone. >> our diana magnay is near utoya island this morning. diana, this is still a fast and moving story. give us the latest. >> reporter: well, i'll show you the geography of where we are now. if you look behind, utoya is not

the nearest island, but it is the one through the point in the distance. we are being kept far away by the police. they are using this point to send off speed boats containing divers who are still searching for bodies in the water near utoya. the police man shot into the water at people and at young children trying to escape. this is a tranquil setting. this was an island which belonged to the labor party. the prime minister of the country is a member of the labor party. it was where every year they would have their summer camp. a place for young people 16 to 22, mostly. some as young as 13 to come and have a good time and discuss political issues for five days. every year at a particular point. an easy target to plan, which is presumably what this man did, if this two acts were connected.

they will charge the man for the blast in oslo and for the attack, hideous attack, on the isla island subsequently. we are hearing from the media there was a second man involved. eyewitnesss said they saw someone else on the island not dressed as a police officer. they are trying to look into that and if it is true or not. >> diana, we will continue to check in with you throughout the morning. thank you. 13 minutes past the hour on this cnn saturday morning. five things you need to know and thinking about right now just in case congress doesn't get its act together and increase the debt limit. we are talking to our good friend clyde anderson. he is here with me after the break. i never saw the traffic stop.

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13 minutes past the hour on this cnn saturday morning. we have a little "push it" going on as we show the white house. there is a reason for that. they may be pushing it. maybe kicking the can. there will be another meeting at the white house between the house speaker and other congressional leaders and the president. this is after john boehner, the house speaker, walked away on the debt crisis talks. he said he will deal with congressional leaders, but the

president called him right back to the white house today. again, we are only about a week away before the government says they won't be able to pay all of their bills. we have been told the deal has not been reached and interest rates could rise. take a listen to the former undersecretary of the treasury. >> lots of issues will appear in the form of higher interest rates that play into mortgages. mortgage payments and car payments and interest rates and into the broader economy. this will set the economy back with higher interest rates and turmoil. you will not see good economic growth. you will see a blow to the economy because of the downgrade, which it happens. >> you are hearing and clyde anderson is here joining me. good to have you. we are hearing all of the big armageddon. there are things we need to do just in case.

we will get to the interest rates. let's start with the stock market. people are concerned about investments right now. should they make a move? >> it is one of the things you don't want to be scared. if you are an investor, invest. when the market is down, that is when people do well. the stock market can gain. don't panic. >> what about the safe assets? >> i like the term safe assets. it makes me feel good. you are talking about gold. that is a safe asset. gold is trading at $1,600. we are seeing it pop up all over the place. we buy gold. it is a great asset right now. if the market goes down and the crisis happens, gold will go up more. >> there is a reason we are seeing the commercials. >> i want to talk about that more. >> let's turn to the tax gains. >> one thing about tax gains. we want to look at the roth. a lot of people are investing in

iras. you can make up to $100,000 a year. you pay taxes up front instead of pulling out. if you take a penalty now to transfer from the regular ira to a roth, you can avoid the increased taxes when you pull the money out. if you are getting taxed at 20%, when taxes go up to 45%, you will get taxed at the 45% on the other investments. >> that is a good point. if you want to take a hit, you might want to go ahead and take it now. >> the lesser of the evils. >> good point. this is the other one that a lot of people are concerned about. it has to do with interest rates. should i make a big purchase right now or should i hold off? >> pull the trigger. do it right now. homes. the values. you are there. the prices are great. take advantage while interest rates are low. we heard everybody talk about it. this happens. the interest rates will go up.

when the bond market takes the hit, the banks have to recover. they have 90% that they are recovering on mortgages right now. when it happens, they will feel the crunch and take it up with the interest rates. >> we talked about the interest rates. is this something that would happen over time or weeks or months? >> it can happen overnight. you can wake up and rates are high. they are talking about the ratings. that is like saying the government has bad credit. if you have bad credit, you will pay more interest on things. >> the whole country has bad credit. the last thing here. your retirement account. >> keep an eye on it. we talked about the bonds. a lot of people have bonds or government-backed securities in the retirement accounts. if these take a hit, you will lose a lot of money. you want to talk to whoever handles your retirement account. don't be blind into this. make sure you understand what you are stepping into. >> good information.

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