now that will likely anger some of you, but that's not the worst of it. turns out as a result of this current five-week adjournment, as many as 74,000 americans might be losing their paychecks. that's because badly needed construction at american airports is at a standstill. air safety inspectors, for instance, are working without any pay, and the government is not collecting $200 million a week in airline ticket taxes. that's $1 billion tax dollars lost between now and when congress gets back to work. remember, the lawmakers responsible for blowing this hole in the budget just spent months railing about the dev sirkts and when they got done with that, all they could talk about is jobs and how they will be focused on creating jobs. >> the american people's top priority is the creation of jobs. >> creating jobs for the american people. >> create jobs in america. >> create jobs. >> create jobs. >> job creation. >> focus on jobs. >> new jobs. >> jobs. >> jobs. >> jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. >> jobs, talking about jobs. >> talking about jobs.

>> and now it's time to talk about jobs. >> all right. let talk about jobs. here's one, neil bowlen's job with the faa new on furlough. >> i have a hard time understanding their partisan bickering and rhetoric. we're reaching into our investments, savings, signed up for unemployment, and that's barely going to make the electric bill, much less the water and mortgage, so, yeah, we're incredibly disappointed. >> he says congress could have prevented his ordeal with just a day's work. here's why they failed to. it's a little complex but worth knowing. since 2007 the faa has been running on short-term funding bills that routinely pass through congress, almost like the debt limit until now. this time politics have intruded with republicans inserting language about rural airports and faa unionization into the process, neither of which democrats support. you can decide for yourself if you're for subsidizing rural airports or whether the faa

should unionize. i'm not taking a position. that's not my job. that's for you to decide. keeping them honest, couldn't find any other instance, either party, democrats or republicans, attaching any controversial additions to one of these temporary funding bills, and there's been almost 20 of these over the years, and not once has this happened. so the bottom line. no vote, despite repeated calls from the white house and transportation secretary ray lahood to get to work, to get to some kind of agreement so people don't lose their jobs. >> don't put the livehoods of thousands of people at risk. don't put projects at risk, and don't let $1 billion at a time when we're scrambling for every dollar we can get left on the table because congress did not act. >> congress is on vacation. what i'm asking congrs to do is come back from their vacation, pass a clean bill, which they have done on 20 other occasions, so that the faa people did not have to go

without paychecks and thousands of construction workers, right in the middle of the construction season are out of work. now, i've heard of a lot of speeches around here about doing jobs, getting jobs, helping to get jobs. well, this -- what i want members of congress to do is not only talk the talk about jobs, walk the walk. vote to extend the faa and put thousands of people back to work. come back from your vacation, pass a bill, the way you've done on 20 other occasions. this is not fair to average, ordinary citizens who are out of work. >> again, they are taking five weeks off. again, it's not like they are lacking for vacation time. that's five weeks out of 23 weeks on the 2011 calendar at beginning of the year. so while they are taking it easy, talking in their districts or fund-raising, as many as 74,000 others run able to work at all. joining us now is congressional correspondent kate balduan, democratic strategist paul becla and republican strategist alex castellanos. >> is this just a fight over a couple of small town airports, kate?

>> yes, at least in part, ostensibly, sorry, anderson. this is what's going , two things going on. it has to do with the union issue that you mentioned. republicans put -- put changed union rules and how the federal rules kind of apply to airlines and unionizing there. they want to change the rules. democrats clearly are balking at this and are opposed to it. that's the long-term funding bill. then in the short-term extension, democrats are calling for a clean extension that would just extend it as they have in the past. republicans are opposing that, and so they are pushing their own extension that has to do with these subsidies for rural airports that democrats are balking at again and opposing and republicans say they are opposing wasteful ending so the fingerpointing we're seeing in the debt debate is just extending into this. every side is saying the other side is holding up the process when the faa employees are becoming the victims here. i think a little bit of what's going on here is following the

debt debate there's serious bruised egos and resentment on both side so they are really, really digging in here. >> paul begala, why not either pass this short-term extension, even if it's not perfect or, you know, have some leadership and actually come up a compromise or come up with some sort of a deal? >> i have no idea, anderson. if i had hair, it would be on fire. this is the kind of thing that makes you crazy, but i have to say, the president did a disservice today to this story, and i think sometimes we in the in media do when he said both parties are equally at fault. the president said, and i'm quoting him, this is another washington-inflicted wound on america. no, sir, with all d respect. it's a republican-inflicted wound on america, and not even all republicans. a lot think this is ridiculous. kay bailey hutchison has said it's not honorable what the house is doing so i don't want to paint all republicans with a brush. there's a new way of doing business for some in the republican party. it's not the regular order.

even the most mundane issues like whether we should subsidize air in eli, nevada, it's shutting down the faa and putting 74,000 people out of work. >> $1 billion is not being collected, $1 billion, isn't that something that should get people in congress who cares about the defit to try to come up with some sort of solution with you? >> you would think. kind of want to put them all in an airplane that can't land until they fix this. but you know, we've just had a big spending debate for it seemed like eternity here in washington on this debt ceiling, and one thing i think democrats and republicans can all agree is if we can stop wasting money that we don't have, we ought to do that. how much should one of these airplane tickets cost from eli, nevada, to the closest hub? turns out we're subsidizing each of these tickets from $1,000 to $3,700, each ticket.

that seems to be a place we could save some bucks. could you hire a limo, fill it with champagne and drive each one of these passengers and save money, and we can't even agree on saving that kind of money? republicans put a bill that would do that on the table. democrats said no, and you know what harry reid did? he did the honorable thing. he said, look, i urge my colleagues to vote for this. it's -- sometimes you have to think about what's best for your country and rockefell and the other senators said no. they are holding harry reid hostage on this. >> paul, i mean, alex sees it a completely different way. >> senator reid, alex is right, the senate majority leader, his small town in his state of eli, nevada, is one -- his town has been singled out for this. sent a letter to speaker boehner today where heays i will be willing to compromise on the essential air services issue during negotiations on the final bill in order to pass a clean extension. reid is doing everything he can do but just like the debt

ceiling, h doesn't have a partner to negotiate w.this is what bothers me. it's more about process. the founding fathers gave us a regular order for resolving these disputes. my goodness, this is not slavery, not civil rights. this is whether we should subsidize air travelers in eli, nevada. alex may be right, the republicans may be right but not worth putting 74,000 people out of a week. it's a process. extend it for a couple of weeks or months and you come back to a conference committee. >> alex, what about not taking your vacation until this gets done? >> right. >> i'm not taking a side of whether the republicans are right or the democrats, i don't know, but i do know that for government to work people have to make decisions and whether it's a compromise or one side wins or the other, that's how things get done and right now nothing is getting done. >> you know, if you -- and i think some folks at home are looking at this and are so disgusted with what they are seeing in washington that next election we could see i think one of the biggest rejection of

incumbents that we've seen in a long time. it could be vote them all out. last election we saw some survey numbers that said if you could vote everybody from both parties out and start over, would you, and i think it was over 60%. i think it could be higher this time. but on this specific issue, anderson, you said you couldn't find anything going back 20 years where anybody had tied something like this a spending reduction to a -- to a routine bill, yes, and that's the problem. we never cut spending, on anything. we always push it back to tomorrow, and tomorrow never comes, so we're in a crisis situation where one of these days our kids are going to be empty of tears because they are going to sweat their whole lives to pay debts that we, our parents, are leaving them. >> now still pushing it back. now pushing it back five weeks so that they can take their vacation. i'm just -- it's the vacation thing, that you know, i -- i get that this is how washington works and what debates are about. i don't get why they get to adjourn -- >> i think in the short term, this could be fixed pretty

quickly. they would just need to come to an agreement. they don't even need to pull all the senators and members of congress back to washington necessarily. they have to come to an agreement. both the house and the senate have procedural ways to pull this off. >> kate, president obama said that might happen this week. is that likely? >> likely, i would not go that far. i would say speaker boehner issued a statement today, and it did not seem like he was so inclined to try to make this agreement, and it's not unheard of for the house speaker to call them all back in. nancy pelosi did that last year when she was -- last summer when she was speaker of the house. it doesn't seem like anyone is ready to blink and make that move at this moment. the idea of the vacation is frustrating for many people, but they can do this work while they are still on vacation and still going to their constituency events or whatever. they can get this done and can get it done quickly. >> right. >> they just don't want to at the moment. >> kate, paul, alex, thanks very much. follow me on facebook and twitter, already talking to folks on twitter about that.

a lot of anger about thi this, @andersoncooper. an egyptian leader on a gurney in cage. he says he's not responsible, but how can he not be responsible in keeping you honest and taking back to the moments when terrorists try to threaten his regime. >> and jurors heard warren jeffs having sex with an underage victim. the most disturbing thing they have heard. more after this. [ male announcer ] chevrolet is honored to celebrate the unveiling of the washington, d.c., martin luther king jr. memorial. take your seat at the table on august 28th.

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egypt's former dictator went on trial today, and the images were extraordinary. tens of millions of egyptians watched on tv, the man who ruled them for decade lying on a medical gurney inside an iron cage. in there with him his two sons trying to block the cameras. his former interior minister and six cops. mubarak is charged with corruption and complicity in killings during the uprising that drove him from power. today when he was asked by the judge he said, quote, i deny them completely about the charges. keeping them honest, is that even remotely possible or

plausible? mubarak ruled a police state for 30 years with a massive internal security machine that was able to put violent and often deadly mobs on the streets at will. he oversaw a secret police infamous for their use of brutality and torture. not responsible? remember, you saw it when pro-mubarak thugs suddenly turned up en masse to attack reporters and demonstrators starting the night of february 1st and we were on the air when the first thugs starts to arrive. >> behind us we have basically a rent a mob of pro-mubarak supporters who have been mobilized at this late hour to chant, you know, that the press are traitors and agents, and this is very much -- >> do you think these guys are paid to do this? >> i don't think there's any doubt about it. i've seen demonstrations like this in egypt for years. there are people who have such a stake in this regime that they are coming out like this. they are being paid perhaps to come out like this to show support for the mubarak regime. this is typical, for instance,

of egyptian elections. oftentimes they come out in favor of mubarak, and it turns out that they have been paid 20 pounds apiece to do it. >> they started throwing rocks that night. the next day before full-on warfare against protesters, government thugs attacked reporters in the streets. my crew and i were attacked by thugs in kay re's liberation square. short time later more attackers, this time on camel-backs ramp age beating blooding anyone in their path. security forces and military surrounded liberation square. no one got in unless they were allowed in by the government. hard to see how stick-wielding mounted thugs could do what they did without government say so in a place like egypt and the mubarak propaganda machine was blaming the violence on

foreigners and autoside agita agitators like al jazeera and israel and formenting new violence. that night we practically broadcast undercover from the floor. this is not how we planned to bring you tonight's program but the situation changes here minute by minute, in cairo especially today. given what we've seen today, this is just yet another development just in the last minute we've heard heavy fire in liberation square. we've got video that was taken just a short time ago, heavy caliber fire heard in the square. we'll talk to our ivan watson there in just a minute. i want to tell you we're broadcasting from a location that we thought was pretty safe up until about half an hour ago and after that heavy fire, we got a report that pro-mubarak forces have left the area around liberation square and have now fanned out into some other neighborhoods, and the security situation where we are has changed somewhat from the last 30 minutes or so. we've been advised to actually turn off our lights, get down on the floor and try to barricade

ourselves in the area that we're in, so that's -- that's why we're doing this program like this tonight. it's not going to look very good over the next hour but i hope you bear with us because what has happened today in egypt on these streets has been nothing short of extraordinary. the entire situation has changed here in the last 12 hours. people have died who did not need to die. people will die tonight who do not need to die, and there were many people wounded today. we don't have actual numbers for you, but what we have seen has been nothing short of a pitched battle for the future of this country on the streets of this country outside the egyptian museum and inside and all around liberation square. literally barricaded with sofas and chairs inside an office at that point. that's just a small slice of what we could seek shelter from, but many egyptians weren't so lucky. amnesty international estimates 840 people were killed in the uprising. tens of millions of egyptians spent weeks in sheer terror, and many more spent their entire

lives in fear of an absolute dictatorship. mubarak says he's not responsible. the former dictator claiming he wasn't responsible for the brutality and not responsible and shouldn't be held accountable. talked about it earlier with david kirkpatrick of the "new york times" and fareed zakaria, host of "fareed zakaria gps." to hear mubarak say he wasn't responsible for anything and didn't order attacks on protesters. when you're a dictator of a country for many, many years it seems ridiculous for someone to claim no responsibility for what was happening. >> the complicating factor here, anderson, he's almost certainly guilty of the charges that have been laid against him, but it still has the feeling of, i don't want to say a show trial, but a trial that is not fair. i wish that the egyptian government realized that this is really a very important moment for them. they need to get this right. >> david, that image of this once all powerful dictator

reduced to a sickly man inside a cage has got to be an incredibly powerful image for the people of egypt. >> yeah, it's absolutely breathtaking. you've got to remember this is a country where there's never been a living ex-president much less a president or ex-president brought before the law. it's something that i think most egyptians -- i know most egyptians truly could not believe. >> fareed, how do you think the trial will play in other places where dictators are no doubt watching this very closely? >> it's not just in places where dictators are in trouble. this is a phenomenon across the arab world. everyone is watching it, and that's one of the reasons why i think it's so important that the egyptians do it in a way that makes it clear that this is an impartial process, that there is real due process, but there's no question that everyone around the arab world is watching now. it is having the effect of making a moammar gadhafi feel like why the hell should i leave? i'm going to end up in jail and get tried, but that's always one

of the downsides of this kind of thing when you -- when you punish one of these dictators. >> david, leading up to the trial, there were all sorts of questions about whether mubarak was sick or how sick he was, maybe his doctors and defense team were exaggerated. do you think those questions were put to rest today, or do you think it remains a question of whether he's faking it? >> on the one hand for sure his defense team was exaggerating. they said he had cancer, had a stroke, was in a coma. none of those things are true. at the same time, it's just not plausible that somebody like mubarak, with his pride, his military, carried into a courtroom on a stretcher to compete for sympathy. there's no way that was staged and to a second to what fareed was staying, at every step the military tribunal running the country right now seems to be responding to political pressure from the street. yeah, there's nothing about this that seems particularly fair or well thought out. i don't think that botherses the

egyptian people right now. >> do you think in fact, david, that this gives legitimacy in eyes of the egyptian people, legitimacy to the military government? >> i think very much so. i think a lot of egyptians, you know, last week were thinking these guys will never put their former boss on trial, and yet here it is, and it may be that they were forced into it by street demonstrations and a fear of continued unrest, but i think to most egyptians, the popular will has that kind of power. it's closer than they have ever been to the rule of law. >> you know, anderson, revolutions are very big phenomena, and they sometimes can take on a life of their own. >> right. >> and what's happening here in egypt is it's taken on a life of its own. public appetites have to be fed, and there is a public rage, an understandable public rage because of 30 or 40 or 50 years of dictatorship, and mubarak has come to symbolize it. this is something that they can do, feed the masses. >> we've also seen huge protests

in which the military has cracked down on protesters, tortured protesters, done virginity checks on women. there's been a lot of outrage about that, and just recently this weekend we saw a huge pro-islamist demonstration in tahrir square. tens of thousands of islamists calling for, you know, a strict adherence to islamic law. where is the egyptian revolution at this point? i mean, is it cliche to say it's at a turning point? >> you know, i think it's in suspension. when i was in egypt a month or two ago, the situation was very similar, and a young protester who had spent all her days an nights in tahrir square said to me, you know, i went through this whole process to get rid of egypt's military dictatorship, and when i look around, everyone in the world thinks that our revolution has succeeded, but i'm living in a dictatorship. >> forming a secret alliance

with radical islamists, is that for real, or is that just sort of a scare tactic or an attempt to get attention and ruffle the western feathers? >> at one point in the interview he said it's kind of a funny story, and i said does that mean you're joking. he said i'm very, very serious. we'll announce this in days in a joint communique. he even identified the libyan islamist who he said was his counterpart in these talks to form a kind of alliance, but when i called up, when our folks called up that islamist who is based in doha he said no, no, no, nothing of the kind. i've had conversations with saif but all of them have been you and your family need to leave power right away. i suspect that he almost was enjoying taunting the west with the prospect that the libyan rebels you may be helping the islamists take power. >> it's totally implausible, anderson. gadhafi for 40 years has

massacred islamists and the military threats to his regime over the last decade have all come from islamists whom he has brutally repressed. the idea they would tie up with him is very implausible. >> thank you so much. david, stay safe. >> okay, thanks a lot. >> it is a nating stuff. up next, disturbing video showing how philip and nancy garrido preyed on little kids. you'll see how they lured little girls into a van to videotape them. the kind of thing we've all heard about to actually know that these folks did that. it is sickening, serves as a warning to us all. later, the warren jeffs sexual assault trial grows stranger by the day. last night we reported on the strange courtroom drama. we'll talk to gary tuchman tonight about what shocked a lot of hardened courtroom watchers. [ female announcer ] now, give dry, damaged hair a whole new life!

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. up close tonight, disturbing videos released by the district attorney's office in el dorado county california. the office prosecuting convicted philip and nancy garrido for the kidnapping rape of jaycee dugard held captive, as you know, for 18 years. it released the videos to show the public how criminals like the greedos operate. in the first excerpt, nancy garrido has lured a little girl into a van. now the little girl is not jaycee dugard. this happened though after jaycee dugard had already been taken, lured a girl into a van to videotape her, and she coaxes the child to do splits. now the video was shot for her husband's gratification, if you can believe it. the d.a.'s office blurred the images and cnn has decided not to air the child's voice so you'll hear gaps in the audio.

the audio with the young children is disturbing but we think important for everyone to hear especially for parents because we've all heard about this kind of stuff but to actually see it really brings it home and makes it real. listen in. >> can you go all the way down? let me see. i bet you go down really easy, huh? let me see you do it. you didn't show me your split, did you? let me see it now. >> after arrest garrido was questioned by law enforcement officers on videotape. they talked about videotaping girls in the van and how often it went on. you'll hear a couple of beeps there on the tape. >> you had a camera set up in the van? >> yeah. >> for the direct purpose of getting leg shots and [ bleep ] shots for him, so this was kind of set up, this is what you're going to do, honey, here's how you're going to do it, right? >> right. >> you indicated numerous times that kids were brought into the van?

>> mm-hmm. >> and i thought you might have indicated that it happened both at your house and maybe at other locations. is that true? >> mm-hmm. >> this was obviously something phil wanted you to do for him, and what were you- what was your task in all of this? i mean, what were you supposed to get of these girls, submit as much leg shots and [ bleep ] shots as you could, have them do gymnastics? >> stuff like that. >> you were supposed to sit down next to them, play nice and sound interested and somehow coax them into moving around. >> rig. >> so they could be videotaped. >> right. >> how many instances are we talking about, you getting the kids in the van and actually doing a face-to-face taping as opposed to out in the park? are we talking less than 20 or more than 20? >> it's got to be less than 20.

>> somewhere between 10 and 20? >> maybe. >> somewhere in that? >> maybe. >> you think? >> or maybe not. maybe just ten. >> short time ago i spoke to dr. drew pinsky, host of "dr. drew" on hln. dr. drew, the state a while ago had released a few tapes, and we talked about them on this program. i got some tweets from people saying, you know, why are you showing this, it's disturbing, and these new tapes are incredibly disturbing, but i find them important to watch to see because we all know there's dangers out there, and yet people still, you know, kids are still getting into vans with creepy people in there. >> yeah, there's a couple of points we made, anderson. one is although it's a cliche that someone would offer up candy and lure a child into a van, the fact is that kind of thing does exist. the other issue is should we be watching these films? i mean, they are not explicit. they are just disturbing, and because the normal person's mine just doesn't work that way, it

is important to take a good hard look at these things so you understand in an unvarnished way what it is you're looking for to keep your kids safe. >> and nancy garrido, luring a child into a van, having her doing splits and videotaping her for her husband's gratification later, i mean, what is -- what is going through her mind, because, i mean, he's clearly sick. he's clearly, you know, a monster. >> right. >> but what's going on in her mind? >> yeah. i've got a feeling you were going to kind of go there because this is the part that's so difficult to understand, how someone could become so depend ant, so controlled by another person that she could collude in something that is absolutely depraved, but fact is this guy was, let's call it what it is, sort of a geus at mind control and picking somebody, again, i'm not talking about the captive, i'm talking about this woman we're seeing on the video, picking someone who has such profound dendsy needs that needs from him attention so far that she is willing to go to any

length probably without giving it much thoughtat all. >> and even there's the video where she is videotaping him at the playground, you know. again, it's just one of those things that people should look out for this kind of stuff, people videotaping at a playground. it seems toe basic. >> it does seem so basic and yet we have to remind ourselves that these things exist, and here's the message to parents out there. it's unfortunate that we live in a te when we have to be so hyper vij laptop, but that's the time we live in, number one. and number two, trust your instincts. >> not just a failure of people's imaginations to kind of think of what horrible people can do, but also of the state, of the government, who sent parole officers out there who didn't do thorough searches, who a could have found jayce dugard had they thoroughly searched the property. >> that's a big issue we've got to deal, and it really boils down to patterns of depravity,

patterns of criminal behavior. you know, back in the 18th system we had a system of penitentiary and they were improved when they got out of the penitentiary system. we have people with profound lifelong patterns of severe criminal behavior, and each one tends to get looked at almost on its own merit as an isolated incident rather than looking at the overall pattern and realizing some people are not going to change, and when they get out of the lock system, the contained system, they have to be treated with the same scrutiny as if they were in a lock system. >> fascinating the video we've just been showing of nancy garrido videotaping when the parole officer came to the house and was searching. she was basically trying to get pressure on this guy to get out quicker. again, not effective searches. dr. drew, thanks. appreciate it. following other stories tonight. tom foreman has the "360" bulletin. the united nations has denounce syria's brutal crack

dunne on protesters. the security council condemned the use of force against civilians and called for an immediate end to violence by all parties. dozens of people have been killed in the last few days, including at least four today. haiti and the dominican republic are bracing for tropical storm emily which is expected to hit the two countries with strong winds and heavy rains. the national hurricane center says emily is packing winds of 50 miles per hour. as relief agencies desperately try to feed starving somalians, the u.n. announced today that famine has spread to three more regions of the african country, incding the capital city of mogadishu. the still war in somalia is making it hard to get food to those who need it. and in new york, maybe that wandering peacock just needed a day to be alone. it escaped from the central park zoo yesterday, and there it is perched on a wind sill, but zoo officials now say the peacock flew back home this morning. >> wow, that's cool. >> a little homing pigeon. >> maybe needed a little time

away, a little vacay. we'll check in with you shortly. tonight's shot, you know music calls the savage beach. a mariarchi band serenaded a beluga whale in mystic beh, connecticut. watch. ♪ i like how the beluga whale seems to be like nodding its head to the music. it certainly looks curious, at the very least. the band was at the aquarium to perform at a wedding apparently. so who knew. tom, did you know that belugas like mariarchi? >> this reminds me so much of my prom. >> of your prom, really. >> very similar. >> who were you -- which character were you? >> i don't know on that. >> okay. up next on "360" another wild day in the courtroom during the sexual assault trial of warren jeffs. an audio tape was played that left at least one juror in tears and when jeffs presented a

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in our crime and punishment segment, the trial of polygamous secretary leader warren jeffs s is -- gary, the prosecution closed the case playing this audio. i heard a lot of people in the court saying it was among the more disturbing thing that they have ever heard. what did you hear, and how did the jury react? >> it was very disturbing, not just for the jury, but for the 150 of us in the courtroom which was packed listening to a 50-year-old man apparently have sex with a 12-year-old girl, and she was just 11 years old a month before what. makes it worse, anderson, warren jeffs does not deny the accusations in court, but this audio tape wha it showed, is that warren jeffs regularly taped these sexual experiences he had. he called them training sessions for heavenly wife. we heard warren jeffs say it feels girl and how do you feel and this little girl voice, very good and it was so sad. saw pictures in court, small for her hair, red hair, described by

a witness as having red hair and freckles and looked like pippy longstocking and at one point at the very end wren jeffs said what do you feel, and she said i feel fine, thank you, and the tape lasted 20 minutes, anderson. there was heavy breathing, very uncomfortable and sad being there, but the prosecution felt they needed to play it for this jury. >> and after all this, mike, then the prosecution rests, and then it's warren jeffs turn to present his case and you said that's like when it became the theater of the absurd. >> i think that's a pretty accurate description. mr. jeffs is not a lawyer, and he proved that today. first of all, he begged and pleaded and stammered in front of the judge asking for more time to prepare. she said you've had years to prepare for this. you're on at 3:00 this afternoon. he then got up and basically did a 30-minute stump speech, sort of a stump sermon, the kind of thing he delivers before his block talking about religious history and the persecution of his people over the last 15

years. your eyes glazed over. at this point mr. gest interject the and sermonized so much into this trial you wonder what the impact is on the jury and juxtapose that with this tape where you have this meek little girl talking and mr. jeffs apparently having sex. it was very impactful i think for all of us in the courtroom today. >> and gary, he called it his first witness a member of the flds. he didn't -- he still hasn't addressed the allegations against hill, right? >> that's right, anderson. we didn't know he would call and all of a sudden he called one of his followers, a guy that we know and it basically felt like an flds sunday school session. the book of mormon was brought in as the first piece of evidence and basically read the book of mormon to each other and warren jeffs defense is that he didn't have sex but the defense is this is a violation of his freedom of religion and he got a member of his church to say that yes, throughout history, mormons

religion has been vie late, but then when the prosecution cross-examined this man they said do you believe warren jeffs is a prophet? >> yes. do you believe warren jeffs talks to god, and he said yes, and he said do you have sex with 15-year-old girls and the man had a lawyer with him, talked to his lawyer before he said anything. no. do you have sex with 12-year-old girls? no. do you have sex with more than one girls at once? no. and the point that the prosecution is saying this is warren jeffs doing it, not other members of the flds even though they regard him as a prophet. >> warren jeffs doesn't use the word sex at all on the tape. he has code words. what is he talking about? is this all flds code? >> having grown up in the area around utah, this ornate religious language that mr. jeffs seems to be unable to speak in anything but this stuff, and he talks about heavenly sessions. he refers to the young woman as a heavenly comfort wife.

he has all this sort of coded language that has been used for generations in that community. >> yeah. >> never just outright talks about sex because they are above that. this is a god-ordained practice, at least in the words of mr. jeffs, you know. it's very bizarre to hear him discuss that and the tape. you hear this meek little voice, only hear it a couple of times. it just plunged a dagger into your heart, and i think amid the heavy breathing it just -- the jurors just walked away stunned. >> mike, i was really interested. want to make sure i read this correctly, that jeffs filed a motion to get the judge on the case dismissed or recused, and in it it seems like he's threatening her. he claims in this brief that -- that he's channeling god, and he says, quote, let also barbara walthers, the judge's name, be of a humbling to know i have sent a crippling disease upon her which shall take her life soon. >> yeah.

i think you get a good insight into the character of warren jeffs. this judge has been rock solid. she has done such a good job in such a difficult situation. apparently as a child she suffered polio. she has a brace on one of her legs and walks with a noticeable limp and now he's implying in this revelation of god that he filed in a motion from court that her infirmity was an act of his vengeful god and now she's going to die. i can tell you she's aright of last couple of days since this was filed with a much greater degree of security. she was driving herself to the court through much of this trial and now she's being delivered in a big texas-sized law enforcement pickup truck with lots of guards. they are taking this as a threat. >> gary, is this going to wrap up soon, or do we know? >> we thought it would wrap up today, anderson but she, barbara walthers is tough but is not limiting warren jeffs, doesn't want a mistrial or reversal on

appeals court. we don't how long it will take. lasted three hours and 50 minutes and he'll continue questioning the fellow member of his church tomorrow. >> thank you for your time. more crime and punishment ahead. new information about when casey anthony will return to florida and on tonight easily dick lift, i hate to name these two. they have a big change in their lives and we'll explain on the ridiculist. that one day on the red hills of georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. i have a dream today! [ male announcer ] chevrolet is honored to celebrate the unveiling of the washington, d.c., martin luther king jr. memorial. take your seat at the table on august 28th. sir, can you hear me? just hold the bag. we need a portable x-ray, please! [ nurse ] i'm a nurse.

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just ahead, a belated reality check for heidi montag and spencer pratt, said their numbers but first tom foreman is back with a news update. >> reporter: u.s. authorities have broken up an online child pornography ring that stretched across five continents and 14 countries. more than 50 people have been arrested. they have been tied to an online sight where they uploaded images of children, what they are accused of, including infants being spewsed. casey anthony won't have to return to orlando tomorrow. she was due to begin serving a supervised probation. her lawyers say it's too dangerous for her to come out of hiding. anthony's acquittal on murder charges prompted death threats. a hearing is set for friday. the dow industrials snapped an eight-day losing streak adding 30 points. the fed may consider a new round of stimulus and is getting credit for the gains, and dolly parton has apologized to a lesbian couple who visited doll wood's splash country theme park

in tennessee. one of the women was wearing a t-shirt promoting gay marriage and wasn't allowed into the park until she turned her shirt inside out to hide the slogan. anderson? >> that's surprising. toms, thanks very much. time for the ridiculist and we're adding heidi montag and spencer pratt, not for the first time but it may be. if you don't know who they are, first of all, congratulations. allow me to explain. they won were on a tv show called "the hills" for six seasons. frankly i'm no expert, but i do know that heidi and spencer were the demon spawn of that program, and together they staged a whole bunch of fake photo ops and went on reality shows and basically got paid to go to clubs. whatever the point is they got really famous in the bloggy twittery tmziesque way that people can get famous these days without any actual talent or any intrinsic worth but now sadly everything has changed, sadly for them. heidi and spencer say they were wrong about everything. they regret it all, they say and

with broke and wished they never tried to get famous. spencer tells "the daily beast," everything we were doing in retrospect was a mistake. the second we continued on our quest for fame was a mistake. bite your tongue, spencer. you and heidi are both excellent role models. we've learned so much from you like when you were on the reality show "i'm a celebrity, get me out of here," you taught us about perspective. >> everyone is being so mean and completely took off all my labels and everything on my dry shampoo. >> who else would so passionately defend the sanctity of a dry shampoo label? no one by heidi and spencer. >> you shouldn't rip the labels off of people's possession. >> come on, spencer. >> you know who you're talking to. >> you don't know who you're talking to. >> come on. >> my husband is a very new christian so he is working very hard on his temper and stuff.

>> our civilization is ending. as spencer worked very hard on his temper and stuff, heidi worked very hard on her temple and stuff, got some plastic surgery. guess what. now she thinks that was a mistake. quote, obviously i wish i didn't do it. i would go back and not have any surgery. i don't regret anything, but if i could go back, i wouldn't to it. she's being way too hard on herself, i think. all she did is tried to improve her appearance, just a little. >> i had a slight eyebrow lift so they slightly lift it had, and i had like real staples in my head, and i had my ears pinned back because i couldn't wear my hair up ever for red carpets because my ears always stuck out. >> hate that. a little head stapling and ear pinning. not like she got her whole jaw sawed down. >> i had my jaw sawed down and reshaped. i had my nose corrected. i had fat injections put into my cheeks and into my lips that was

taken from my legs and i had a little bit of botox put in my forehead. >> how does one have one's jaw sawed down? that was it, right? oh, that wasn't it. >> i had my back shaped out a little bit, and -- >> bone movement, is it? how do you shape? >> a little bit of -- a little bit of the bone and a little bit of the muscle and tissue just for a curvier look, and then i had a little bit of fat injections put in both sides of each butt cheek. >> just a little bit of bone, just a little bit of bone. at least when it came to her breast implants she used sound logic. >> they are aaas ddds or fs pr much. i wanted h for heidi but it didn't work out that way. >> an "h" for heidi. she's adorable. what is life like now for heidi and spencer? >> oh, hang on. >> and then i had a little bit of inner and outer lipo.

>> are we done? that's it. all right. so what's life like now for heidi and spencer now that they are full of regret about their fame-seeking ways? quote, spencer, it's like what 70-year-olds do. we're reading a lot of books. now all we eat are burritos and tacos. book in one hand, taco in the other and burrito in the other, but spencer, you and heidi are way too young to give up onnur dreams and drown your sorrows in ground beef and sour cream. deep down i think you know it. heidi is on another reality show right now and spencer says, quote, if they call me right now and said we want you to be on "jersey shore" and be a bully and we'll bring you your paycheck back, i'd say get me on a plane to italy, almost like they are contradicting themselves. i know that can't be, always have been so genuine. >> chin up, spencer. heidi, lift yours up as much as you physically are able to

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we begin tonight as we always do keeping them honest. them tonight being these guys, lawmakers who are taking five weeks off instead of finishing their work. five weeks. here they are adjourning for their summer recess. and if you're thinking recess, just like in second grade, well, you're not alone. by the way, in january house members scheduled more than 23 weeks off this year. 23. now, that will likely anger some of you but that's not the worst of it.

turns out as a result of this current five-week adjournment, as many as 74,000 americans might be losing their paychecks. that's because badly-needed construction at american airports iat a standstill. air safety inspectors, for instance, are working without any pay. and the government is not collecting $200 million a week in airline ticket taxes. that's 1 billion tax dollars lost between now and when congress gets back to work. and remember, the lawmakers responsible for blowing this hole in the budget just spent months railing about the deficit. and when they got done with that, all they could talk about was jobs. and how they're going to be focused on creating jobs. >> american people's top priority is the creation of jobs. >> creating jobs for the american people. >>reate jobs in america. >> create jobs. >> create jobs. >> job creation. >> focus on jobs. >> new jobs. >> jobs. >> job. >> jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs. >> jobs. >> talking about jobs. >> they're talking about jobs. >> and now it's time to talk about jobs. >> all right well, let's talk about jobs.

here's one. neill bolin's job with the faa. he's now on furlough. >> i have a hard time understanding their partan bickering and their rhetoric. we're reaching into our investments, savgs, signed up for unemployment. and that's barely going to make the electric bill. much less the water and mortgage. so yeah, we're incredibly disappointed. >> he says congress could have prevented his ordeal with just a day's work. now, here's why they failed to. it's a little complex but it's knowing. since 2007, the faa has been running on short-term funding bills that routinely pass through congress. alst like the debt limit until now. this time, politics have intruded with republicans inserting language about rural airports and faa unionization into the process. neither of which democrats support. now, you can decide for yourself if you're for subsidizing rural airports or whether or not the faa should unionize. i'm not taking a position on that. that's not my job. that's for you to decide. but keeping them honest, we could no find any other instance

of either party, democrats or republicans, attaching any controversial additions to one of these temporary funding bills. and there have been at least 20 of these over the years. and not once has this happened. so the bottom line, no vote despite repeated calls from the white house and transportation secretary ray lahood to get to work, to get to some kind of an agreement so people don't lose their jobs. >> don't put the livelihoods of thousands of people at risk. don't put projects at risk. and don't let $1 billion at a time when we're scrambling for every dollar we can -- get left on the table because congress did not act. >> congress is on vacation! what i'm asking congress to do is come back from their vacation, pass a clean bill, which they've done on 20 other occasions! so that faa people did not have to go without paychecks, and a lot -- thousands of construction workers right in the middle of the construction season are out of work!

now, i've heard a lot of speeches around here about doing jobs, getting jobs, helping to get jobs. well, what i want members of congress to do is not only talk the talk about jobs, walk the walk. vote to extend the faa and put thousands of people back to work. come back from your vacation, pass a bill, the way you've done on 20 other occasions. this is not fair to average ordinary citizens who are out of work. >> again, they're taking five weeks off. and again, it's not like they're lacking for vacation time. that's five weeks out of 23 weeks on the 2011 calendar at the beginning of the year. so while they're taking it easy or talking in their districts or fundraising, as many as 74,000 others are unable to work at all. joining us now congressional correspondent kate bolduan, democratic strategt paul begala and republican strategist alex castellano. kate, is this a fight over a couple of small town airports? >> reporter: yes, in part, at least ostensiblily. there are two things going on.

it has to do with this union issue that you mentioned. republicans put a change to union rules and how the federal rules kind of apply to airlines and unionizing there. they want to change the rules. democrats clearly are balking at this and they're opposed to it. that's the long-term funding bill. then in the short-term extension, democrats are calling for a clean extension that would just extend it as they have in the past. republicans are opposing that. so they're pushing their own extension that has to do with these subsidies for rural airports that democrats are balking at again and opposing. and republicans then say that they're protecting wasteful spending that they see. but so it seems like the same finger pointing that we were seeing in the debt debate is just extending into this. and everyone says the other side is the one holding up this process when the faa employees are the only ones that are becoming the victims here. and i think a little bit of what's going on here is following this debt debate there's some serious bruised egos and some resentment on both sides. and so they're really, really

digging in here. >> paul begala, why not just either pass is short-term extension even if it's not perfect, or have some leadership and actually come up with either a compromise or come up with some sort of a deal? >> i have no idea, anderson. if i had hair it would be on fire. this is e kind of thing that makes you crazy. but i have to say, the president did a disservice today to this story. and i think sometimes we in the media do when he seemed to say that both parties are equally at fault. the president today said "this is another washington-inflicted wound on america". well, no, sir, with all due respect. it's a republican-inflicted wound on america. and not even all republicans. a lot of republicans think this is crazy, too. kay bailey hutch sohn, the top senator on the committee of jurisdiction in the senate has already said it's not honorable what the house is doing. so i don't want to paint all republicans with a brush. but there is a new way of doing business for some in the republican party. and it is not the regular order. even the most mundane issues like whether we should subsidize air service to ely, nevada, now all of a sudden becomes

something that's worth shutting down the faa and putting 74,000 people out of work. it's crazy! >> and alex, $1 billion in taxes are not being collected right now. i mean, $1 billion. if nothing else, shouldn't that be enough to get anyone in congress who claims to care about the deficit to try to come up with some sort of solution for this? >> oh, you would think, wouldn't you? you kind of want to put them all in an airplane that can't land until they fix this. but you know, we've just had a big spending debate for it seems like eternity here in washington on this debt ceiling. and one thing i think democrats and republicans can all agree is if we can stop waiting money we don't have, money we have to borrow, money we have to eventually get our kids to pay we ought to try to do that. how much should one of these airplane tickets cost from ely, nevada to the closest hub? well, it turns out we're subsidizing each of these tickets from 1,000 to $3700 each ticket. that seems to be a place we could save some bucks. you could hire a limo, fill it with champagne and drive each one of these passengers and save

money. and we can't even agree on saving that kind of money? republicans put a bill that would do that on the table. democrats said no. and you know what harry reid did? he did the honorable thing. he said, look, i urge my colleagues to vote for this. it's sometimes you have to think about what's best for your country. and rockefeller and other senators said no. they are holding harry reid hostage on this. >> so paul, i mean, alex has clearly seen it in a completely different way. >> well, look. senator reid who alexis right. he's the senate majority leader. his small town in his state of ely, nevada is one of the towns that's been singled out for this. he sent a letter to speaker boehner today where he says "i will be willing to compromise on the essential air services issue during negotiations on the final bill in order to pass a clean extension". reid is doing everything he can do. but just like the debt ceiling, he doesn't have a partner to negotiate with. and this is what bothers me.

again it's all about process. the founding fathers gave us a regular order for resolving these disputes. my goodness, this is not slavery. this is not civil rights. this is whether we should subsidize air travellers in ely, nevada. alex may be right. the republicans may be right. but it's not putting 74,000 people out of work. there's a process. you extend it for a couple of weeks or a couple of months, then you come back to a conference committee and work out these things as they do every day in congress. >> what about not taking your vacation until this gets done? i'm not taking a side whether the republicans are right in this or the democrats. i don't know. but i do know that for government to work, people have to make decisions. and whether it's a compromise or one side wins or the other, that's how things get done. and right now it's nothing's getting done. >> if you -- and i think some folks at home are looking at this and are so disgusted with what they're seeing in washington that next election we could see, i think, one of the biggest rejection of incumbents that we've seen in a long time. it could be vote them all out.

last election we saw some survey numbers that said, if you could vote everybody from both parties out and start over, would you? and it was over 60%. i think it could be higher this time. but on this specific issue, anderson, you said you couldn't find anything going back 20 years where anybody had tied something like, this a spending reductions to a routine bill. yes. and that's the problem. we never cut spending on anything. we always push it back to tomorrow. and tomorrow never comes. so we're in a crisis situation where one of these days our kids are going to be empty of tears because we're going to sweat their whole lives to pay debts that we, our parents, are leaving them. it's got to stop. >> we're now pushing it back five weeks so they can take their vacation. it's the vacation thing that -- i get this is how washington works and these are what debates are about. i don't get why they get to adjourn. >> reporter: in the short term, this could be fixed pretty quickly. i mean, they would just need to come to an agreement. they don't even need to pull all

the senators and members of congress back to washington necessarily. they have to come it an agreement, both the house and the senate have procedural ways to pull this off. >> kate, president obama said that might happen this week. is that likely? >> reporter: likely, i would not go that far. i would say that as speaker boehner issued a statement today and it did not seem like he was so inclined to be trying to make this agreement. and it's not unheard of for the house speaker to call them all back in. nancy pelosi did that last year when she was speaker -- last summer when she was speaker of the house. it just doesn't seem like anybody's ready to blink and make that move at this moment. so the idea of the vacation is frustrating for many people, but they can do this work while they're still on vacation and still going to their constituency events or whatever. they can get this done and they can get it done quickly. they just don't want to at the moment. >> kate, paul, alex, guys thank you very much. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter.

there's a lot of anger about this @ anderson cooper. that's my twitter address. up next, egypt's former dictator in court on a gurney in a cage. court trying to hold them accountable for the deaths during the uprising that drove him from power. he says he's not responsible. but how can he not be responsible in keeping them honest. and taking you back to the terrifying moments when his thugs try this. ed to preserve his regime. crime and punishment tonight, ploilgs leader warren jeffs opening statements after jurors heard a tape of him allegedly having sex with a 12-year-old girl. a lot of folks in the courtroom said it was the most disturbing thing they have ever heard. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car's totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today.

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egypt's former dictator went on trial today. the images were extraordinary. tens of millions of egyptians watched on tv. the man who ruled them for decades lying on a medical gurney inside an iron cage. in there with him his two sons trying to block the cameras. his former interior minister and six cops. mubarek is charged with corruption and complicity in killings during the uprising that drove him from power. today when asked by the judge he said "i deny them completely". about the charges. keeping them honest, though, is that even remotely possible or plausible? mubarek ruled a police state for 30 years with a massive internal

security machine that was able to put violent and of ten deadly mobs on the streets at will. he oversaw a secret police infamous for their use of brutality and torture. not responsible? remember, you saw it when pro mubarek thugs suddenly turned up en masse to attack reporters and demonstrators. it started the night of february 1. we were on the air when the first thugs started to arrive. >> behind us we have basically a rent a mob of pro mubarek supporters who have been mobilized at this late hour to chant "the press are traitors and agents". >> you think these guys are paid to do that? >> i don't think there's any doubt about it. i've seen demonstrations like this in egypt for years. there are people who have such a stake in this regime that they're coming out like this. they're being paid, perhaps, to come out like this to show support for the mubarek regime. this is typical, for instance, of egyptian elections. oftentimes they come out in favor of mubarek, and it turns

out that they've been paid 20 pounds a piece to do it. >> they started throwing rocks that night. the next day before full-on warfare against protestors, government thugs attacked reporters in the streets. my crew and i were attacked by thugs in cairo's liberation square. >> a short time later, more attackers, this time on camelback, rampaged through the square beating bloody anyone in their path. remember at the time security forces, military, surrounded liberation square. no one got in unless they were aloud in by the government. hard to see how stick-wielding mounted thugs could do what they did without government say so in a place like egypt. an throughout it all, the mubarek propaganda machine was simultaneously blaming the violence on foreigners and outside agitators, al jazeera and israel and others while foe meanting new violence.

that night we broadcast practically undercover on the floor. >> this is not exactly how we had planned to bring you tonight's program. but the situation changes here minute-by-minute in cairo, especially today. given what we have seen today, this is just yet another development. just in the last few minutes we've heard heavy fire in liberation square. we've got video that was taken just a short time ago. heavy-caliber fire heard in the square. we're going to talk to ivan watson who is there in just a moment. but i just want to tell you, we are broadcasting from a location that we thought was pretty safe up until about half an hour ago. then after that heavy fire we got a report that pro mubarek forces have left the area around liberation square and have now fanned out in some other neighborhoods. and the security situation where we are has changed somewhat in the last 30 minutes or so. we've been advised to actually turn off our lights, get down on the floor and try to barricade ourselves in the area that we're in. so that's why we're doing this program like this tonight. it's not going to look very good over the next hour but i hope

you bear with us. because what has happened today in egypt on these streets has been nothing short of extraordinary. the entire situation has changed here in the last 12 hours. people have died who did not need to die. people will die tonight who do not need to die. and there were many people wounded today. we don't have actual numbers for you. but what we have seen has been nothing short of a pitched battle for the future of this country on the streets of this country outside the egyptian museum and inside and all around liberation square. >> we were literally barricaded with so fast and chairs inside an office at that point. that's just a small slice of what we could see seek shelter from. but many egyptians weren't so lucky. amnesty international estimates that 840 people were killed in

the uprising. tens of millions of egyptians spent weeks in sheer terror and many more spent their entire lives in fear of an absolute dictatorship. mubarek says he's not responsible. the former dictator claiming he wasn't responsible for the brutality and not responsible and shouldn't be held accountable. we talked about it earlier with david kirkpatrick of the "new york times" and fareed zakaria from cnn. >> fareed, to hear mubarek saying he's innocent of everything, basically, and didn't order the attacks on protesters. i mean, when you're an absolute dictator of a country for many, many years, it suddenly seems ridiculous for somebody to claim oh, look i had no responsibility for what was happening. >> no. the complicating factor here, anderson, is he's almost certainly guilty of the charges that are being laid against him. but it still has the feeling of i don't want to say a show trial but a trial that is not fair. i wish that the egyptian government realized that this is really a very important moment for them. they need to get this right. >> david, that image of this once all-powerful dictator

reduced to a sickly man inside a cage has got to be an incredibly powerful image for the people of egypt. >> yeah. it's absolutely breathtaking. you've got to remember, this is a country where there has never been a living ex-president, much less a president or ex-president brought before the law. it's something that i think most egyptians -- i know most egyptians truly could not believe. >> fareed, how do you think the trial is going to play in other places where dictators are no doubt watching this very closely? >> it's not just in places where the dictators are in trouble. this is a phenomenon across the arab world. everyone is watching it. and that's one of the reasons why i think it's so important that the egyptians do it in a way that makes it clear that this is an impartial process, that there is real due process. but there's no question, everyone around the arab world is watching now. it is having the effect of making moammar gadhafi feel why should i leave? i'm going to end up up in jail and get trieded. that's one of the down sides of these kinds of things when you punish dictators.

>> david, there were questions about whether mubarek was really sick or how sick he was, maybe his doctors or defense team were exaggerating. do you think those questions were put to rest today, or do you think it still remains a question of whether he's kind of faking it? >> well, on the one hand, for sure his defense team was exaggerating. they said he had cancer, they said he had a stroke, he was in a coma. none of those things are true. at the same time, it's just not plausible that somebody like mubarek with his pride, his military, carried into the courtroom on a stretcher to plead for sympathy. there's no way that was staged. and in fact, if i go to a second to what fareed was saying, at every step towards this trial the military tribunal running the country now has seemed to be responding to political pressure from the street. so yeah, there's nothing about this that's particularly fair or well-thought-out. i don't think that really bothers the egyptian people right now. >> do you think in fact, david, that this gives legitimacy in the eyes of the egyptian people legitimacy to the military

government? >> i think very much so. i think a lot of egyptians last week were thinking, these guys will never put their former boss on trial. and yet, here it is. and it may be that they were forced to by street demonstrations and by a fear of continued unrest. but i think to most egyptians, the popular will has that kind of power is closer than they've ever been to a rule of law. >> you know, anderson, revolutions are very big phenomenon. they sometimes can take on a life of their own. and i think what's happening here in egypt is that it is taking on a life of its own. public appetites have to be fed. and there is a public rage, understandable public rage because of 30 to 40 and 50 years of dictatorship. and mubarek has come to symbolize it. this was something they could do to feed the masses. >> we've also seen huge protests

in which military has cracked down on protestors, tortured protestors, done virginity checks on women. there's been a lot of outrage about that. and just recently this weekend we saw a huge pro islamist demonstration in tahrir square, tens of thousands of islamists calling for a strict adherence to islamic law. where is the egyptian revolution at this point? i mean, is it a cliche' to say it's at a turning point? >> i think it's in suspension. when i was in egypt a month or two ago, the situation was very similar. and a young protestor who had spent all her days and nights in tahrir square said to me, you know, i went through this whole process to get rid of egypt's military dictatorship. and when i look around, everyone in the world thinks that our revolution has succeeded. but i'm living in a military dictatorship. >> david, before i let you go i just want to turn to libya where your now. you just had an interview with safe da gau dewho's now claiming that the regime is forming a secret alliance with radical islamists. is that for real or is that sort of a scare tactic, attempt to

get attention or roughly western feathers? >> at one point in the interview he said, it's kind of a funny story. i said, well, does that mean you're joking? he said no, no, no, i'm very serious. we're going to announce this in days in a joint communique. he even identified the libyan islamist who he said was his sort of counterpart in these talks to form a kind of alliance. but when i called up, when our folks called up that islamist who's based in doha he said no, no, no, nothing of the kind. i've had conversations, but all those conversations have been you need to leave power right away. i suspect that he almost was enjoying taunting the west with the prospect that by helping libyan rebels you may be helping islamists to take power. >> it's totally implausible, anderson. gadhafi has for 40 years massacred islamists. in fact, the principal military threats to his regime over the last three decades have all come from the islamists who he had

brutally suppressed. the idea that these guys would tie up with him is very implausible. >> fareed za car remarks david kirkpatrick, thank you very much. david, stay safe. >> thanks a lot. fascinating stuff. up next, disturbing video showing how phillip and nancy ga retoe preyed on children. they're the couple who kidnapped jaycee dugard, held her captive for 18 years in their backyard. you're going to see now and hear how they lured little girls into a van to videotape them. it's the kind of thing we've all heard about. to actually know that these folks did that, it is sickening, serves as a warning to us all. later, the warren jeffs sexual assault trial growing stranger by the day. last night we reported on the bizarre courtroom drama. we'll talk to gary tuchman about what happened today in the courtroom that shocked a lot of hardened courtroom watchers. ♪

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up close tonight, disturbing video released by the district attorney's office in el dorado county, california. the office prosecuting convicted phillip and nancy garrido for the kidnapping and rape of jaycee dugard who was held captive as you know for 18 years. it released the videos to show the public how criminals like the garridos operate. in the first excerpt, nancy garrido has lure add little girl into a van. the little girl is not jaycee dugard. this happened, though, after jaycee dugard hat already been taken. lured a girl into a van to videotape her. and she coaxes the child to do splits. now, the videos were shot for her husband's gratification, if you can believe it. the d.a.'s office blurred the images, cnn decided not to air the child's voice so you'll hear gaps in the audio. we want to warn you again, the audio th the young children is disturbing but important we

think for parents because we all have heard about this kind of stuff. but to actually see it, it really brings it home and makes it real. list. >> can you go all the way down? let me see. i bet you can go down really easy, huh? let me see you do it. oh, you didn't show me your split, did you? let me see it now. >> after a rest, garrido was questioned by law enforcement officers on videotape. they talked about videotaping girls in the van and how often it went on. you'll hear a couple of beeps there on the tape. >> you had a camera set up in the van? >> yeah. >> for the direct purpose of getting leg shots and [ expletive ] shots for him? >> mm-hmm. >> so this was kind of set up? i mean, this is what you're going to do, honey, here's how we're going to do it, right? you indicated that numerous times kid were brought into the van. >> mm-hmm. >> and i thought you might have

indicated that it happened both at your house and maybe at other locations? is that true? >> mm-hmm. >> this was obviously something phil wanted you to do for him. and what were you -- what was your task in all of this? i mean, what were you supposed to get from these girls, as much leg and [ expletive ] shots as you could? >> right. >> get them to do gymnastics? >> stuff like that, general stuff like that. >> so you were supposed to sit down next to them, play nice, sound interested, and somehow coax them into moving around and so they could be videotaped. >> right. >> how many incidents are we talking about, you getting the kids in the van and actually doing a face-to-face taping as opposed to out in the parking lot? are we talking less than 20? more than 20? >> it's got to be less than 20. >> somewhere between 10 and 20? >> maybe. >> somewhere maybe somewhere in

that? >> maybe. >> thing? >> or maybe less. maybe just ten. >> short time ago i spoke with dr. drew pinsky, host of dr. drew on hln. >> you know, dr. drew, the state awhile ago had released a few tapes. and we talked about them thon program. and i got some tweets from people saying why are you showing this? it's disturbing. and these new tapes are incredibly disturbing. but i find them important to watch to see, because we all know there's dangers out there. and yet people still, i mean, kids are still getting into vans with creepy people in them. >> yeah. i mean, there's a couple points to be made, anderson. one is that although it's a cliche' that someone would come up and offer candy and lure a child into the van, the fact is that kind of thing does exist. the other issue is, should we be watching these films? i mean, ey're not explicit. they're just disturbing. and i think because the normal person's mind just doesn't work that way, it is important to take a good, hard look at these things so you understand in an unvarnished way what it is you're looking for to keep your kids safe.

>> and nancy garrido, luring a child into a van, having her do splits, videotaping her for her husband's gratification later, i mean, what is going through her mind? because i mean, he's clearly sick. i mean, he's clearly a monster. but what's going on in her mind? >> yeah. i had a feeling you were going to kind of go there. because this is the part that's so difficult to understand. how someone could become so dependent, so controlled by another person that she could collude in something that is absolutely depraved. but the fact is, this guy was -- let's call it what it is -- sort of a genius at mind control and picking somebody who -- again i'm not talking about the captive, i'm talking about this woman we're seeing in the video here -- picking someone who has such profound dependency needs that need from him attention so far that she is willing to go to any length, probably without giving it much thought at all.

and even there's the video where she's videotaping him at the playground. again, it's just one of those things. people should look out for this kind of stuchlt people videotaping at a playground. i mean, it seems so basic. >> it does seem so basic. and yet we have to remind ouelves that these things exist. and you know, here's the message to parents out there. it's unfortunate that we live in a time when we have to be so hypervigilant, but that's the time we live in number one. and number two, trust your instincts. >> well, it's not just a failure of people's imagination toss kind of think of what horrible people can do, but also of the state. i mean of the government who they sent parole officers there who didn't really do thorough searches who could have found jaycee dugard had they really searched the property. >> yes. and that is a bigger issue that we've got to deal with. and it really boils down to the issue of patterns of depravity. patterns of criminal behavior. you know, back in the 18th century we had a model system of

penitentiaries where people paid penance and they were improved when they t out of these penitentiary systems. we have no such thing right now. we have people that have profound, lifelong traum mass. excuse me, profound, lifelong patterns of severe criminal behavior. and each one tends to get look looked at almost on its own merit as an isolated incident rather than looking at the overall pattern and realizing some people are not going to change, and when they get out of the locked system, the contained system, they have to be treated with the same scrutiny as if they were in a locked system. >> yeah. and fascinating the video that we've just been showing of nancy garrido videotaping when the parole officer came to the house and was searching, she was basically kind of trying to i guess put pressure on this guy to getut quicker. again not effective searches. dr. drew, thanks. >> appreciate it. we're following other stories tonight. tom foreman has the 360

bulletin. >> reporter: anderson, the united nations has denounced syria's brutal crackdown of prestors. the security council released a statement today condemning the use of force against civilians and called for an immediate end to violence by all parties. dozens of people have been killed in the last few days including at least four today. haiti and the dominican republic are bracing for tropical storm emily, which is expected to hit the two countries with strong winds and heavy rains. national hurricane center says emily is packing winds of 50 miles per hour. as relief agencies desperately try to feed starving somalians, the u.n. announced today that famine has spread to three more regions of that african country including the capital city of mogadishu. civil war in somalia is making it hard to get food to those who need it. and in new york, maybe that wandering peacock just needed a day to be alone. it escaped from the central park zoo yesterday, and there it is perched on a window sill. but zoo officials now say the peacock flew back home this morning. >> wow. that's cool. >> a little homing pigeon there. >> maybe he just needed a little time away. just a little vaca. tom we'll check in with you shortly.

tonight's shot, the old saying music calms the savage beast. a mariachi band serenaded a beluga whail at the mistick aquarium. watch. >> i like how beluga whale seems to be like nodding its head almost to the music. it certainly looks curious at the very least. the band was at the aquarium to perform at a wedding apparently. so who knew? tom, did you know that belugas like mariachi? >> i didn't know. this this reminds me so much of my prom. >> of your prom? >> very similar. very similar. >> who were you? which character were you? >> i don't want to talk about it. up next on 360, another wild day in the courtroom during the sexual assault trial of warren jeffs. an audio tape was played that left at least one juror in tears. when jeffs presented his defense case things got even more

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in our crime and punishment segment today, the trial of polygamist sect leader warren jeffs is getting close to the end but not before getting even more dramatic and stranger. court resumes tomorrow morning when jeffs will continue presenting his own defense in his sexual assault trial. after playing a dramatic audio tape that seemed to shock and sadden jury members, prosecution rested its case early today. now, on that tape jeffs is heard allegedly having sex with a 12-year-old girl. joining me live from san angelo is gary tuchman, also award-winning investigative reporter mike watkiss. gary, the prosecution closed its case playing this audio.

i heard a lot of people in the court saying it was among the more disturbing things they've ever heard. what did you hear and how did the jury react? >> reporter: it was very disturbing, not just for the jury but for the 150 of news the courtroom is packed listening to a 50-year-old man apparently have sex with a 12-year-old girl, and she was just 11 years old the month before. what makes it worse, anderson, is that warren jeffs does not deny the accusations in court. but this audio tape what it showed was that warren jeffs regularly taped these sexual experiences he had. he called the them training sessions for heavenly wives. what happened in this audio tape, we heard warren jeffs say it feels good. how do you feel? and this little girl voice said very good. it was so sad. because we've seen pictures of her in court. she's small for her age. she has red hair. she was described by a witness as having red hair and freckle and she looks like pippy longstocking. then at one point at the very end warren jeffs said, what do you feel? she said i feel fine. thank you. and the tape lated 20 minutes, anderson.

there was heavy breathing. it was very uncomfortable and sad being there but the prosecution feels they needed to play it for this jury. >> and after all this, mike, then the prosecution rests and then it's warren jeffs's turn to present his case. you say that's when it became like the theater of the absurd. >> i think that's a pretty accurate description. mr. jeffs is not a lawyer, and he proved that today. first of all, he begged and pleaded and stamrd in front of the judge asking for more time to prepare. she says, you've had years to prepare for this. you're on at 3:00 this afternoon. he then got up and basically did a 30-minute stump speech, sort of a stump sermon, the kind of thing that he delivers before his flock talking about religious history and the persecution of his people over the last 150 years. your eyes glazed over. at this point mr. jeffs has interjected and sermonized so much in this trial, you wonder what the impact is on the jury. juxtapose that with this tape where you have this meek little girl talking and mr. jeffs apparently having sex.

it was very impactful, i think, for all of us in the courtroom today. >> and gary, he called as his first witness a member of the flds. but they didn't really -- i mean, he still hasn't addressed the allegations against him, right? >> well, that's right, anderson. we didn't know he would call a witness. all of a sudden he followed one of his followers. it felt like an flds sunday school session. the book of mormon was brought in as their first piece of evidence. they basically read the book of mormon to each other. warren jeffs's defense has not been that he didn't have the sex, his defense is this is a violation of his freedom of religion. he got this witness, the member of his church to say, that yes, throughout history more mons' religion has been violated. but then when the prosecution cross examined this man, they said to him, do you believe warren jeffs is a prophet? he said yes.

do you belief warren jeffs talks to god? he said yes. then they said, but do you have sex with 15-year-old girls? and the man had a lawyer with him he talked to his lawyer before he said anything. he said no. do you have sex with 12-year-old girls? and he said no. do you have sex with a lot of girls at once which warren jeffs apparently does in these tapes. the man said no. the point the prosecution is trying to make is that this is warren jeffs doing this. this is not necessarily other members of the flds even though they do regard him as the prophet. >> and mike, warren jeffs on the tape doesn't use the word sex at all. he has all these sort of code words. what is he talking about? are these all flds codes? >> well, having grown up in the area around utah, yeah, this ornate religious language that mr. jeffs seems to be unable to speak in anything but this stuff. and he talks about heavenly sessions. he refers to the young woman as a heavenly comfort wife. it's all this sort of coded language that has been used for generations in that community. never just outright talks about sex. because they're above that.

this is a god-ordained practice, at least in the words of mr. jeffs. it's very bizarre to hear him discuss that. and the tape, to hear this meek little voice, you only hear ate couple of times, it just plunge add dog noor your heart. and i think amid the heavy breathing, the jurors just walked away stunned. >> fascinating. gary, mike, appreciate the time. thank you very much. more crime and punishment ahead. new information about when casey anthony will have to return to florida. also tonight's ridiculist. i hesitate to even name these two. because publicity is what they've always been about. but they have a big change in their lives, apparently. we'll explain on the ridiculist. [ male announcer ] summer is here. and so too is the summer event. now get an incredible offer on the powerful c300 sport sedan. but hurry before this opportunity...disappears. the mercedes-benz summer event ends august 31st. but h♪ y before this opportunity...disappears. ♪

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spencer tells "the daily beast" "everything we were doing in let retrospect was a mistake. the second we continued on our quest for fame was a mistake". bite your tongue, spencer. you and heidi are both excellent role models. we've learned so much from you. like when you were on "celebrity get me out of here" you taught us perspective. >> everyone is being so mean. they completely took off my labelses and everything on my dry sham poochlt. >> who else would so passionately defend the sank tisity of one's dry shampoo labels? no one but heidi and spencer. >> you shouldn't rip the labels off of people's possessions. >> come on, spencer. come on. >> don't be a hypocrite. >> you don't know who you're talking to. [ screaming ] >> come on. >> my husband is a very new christian, so he is working very hard on his temper and stuff.

>> our civilization is ending. as spencer worked very hard on his temper and stuff, heidi worked very hard on her temple and stuff. got some plastic surgery. but guess what? now she this that was a mistake. "obviously i wish i didn't do it. i would go back and not have any surgery. i don't regret anything, but if i could go back i wouldn't do it". she's being way too hard on herself, i think. all she did was try to improve her appearance just a little. >> i had a slight aye brow lift. they just slightly lifted it. i had like real staples in my head. and i had my ears pinned back because i couldn'tware my hair up ever for red carpets because me ears always stuck out. >> hate that. a little head stapling, a little ear pinning. it's not like she had her whole jaw sawed down. >> i had my jaw sawed down and reshaped. i had my nose corrected. i had fat injections put into my cheeks and into my lips that was taken from my legs.

and i had a little bit of botox put in my forehead. >> how does one have one's jaw sad down? anyway, that was it, right? i mean -- oh. that wasn't it. >> i had my back shaped out a little bit. >> that's not bone movement, is it? how do you shape out the -- >> a little bit of bone. yeah. a little bit of the bone and a little bit of the muscle and tissue just for a curve ier look. then i had a little bit of fat injections put in both sides of each butt cheek. >> just a little bit of bone. just a little bit of bone. at least when it came to her breast implants she used sound logic. >> they're triple ds of fs pretty much. so i wanted h for heidi, but that didn't really turn out that way. >> get it? h for heidi? she's adorable! so what's life like now for heidi and spencer? oh, hang on. >> then i had a little bit of inner and outer lipo. >> are we done? that's it?

all right. so what's life like now for heidi and spencer, now that they're full of regret about their fame-seeking ways? quote spencer "it's like what 70-year-olds do. we're reading a lot of books. now all we eat are tacos and burritos". i know that's how i have always envisioned retirement, sitting around being 70, book in one hand, taco in the other, burrito in the other. but spencer, you and heidi are way too young to give up on your dreams and drown your sorrow in ground beef and sour cream. deep down i think you know it. heidi's on another reality show right now. spencer said "if they called me right now and said we want you to be on jersey shore and be a bully and we'll bring you your paycheck back, i'd say get me on a plane to italy". it's almost like they're contradicting themselves. but i know that can't be. they've always been so genuine. chin up, spencer. heidi lift yours up as much as you're able to. you'll always be rich and famous on the ridiculist. we'll be right back.

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