a lot of tragic, sensible beatings. listen to the prime minister of the united kingdom. >> i said before that there is a major problem in our society with children growing up, not knowing the difference between right and wrong. this is not about poverty. it is about culture. >> you see a parallel, sir? >> well, i mean, in terms of the language that is being used, the fact that we've got young people, many young people that seem to have no real guidance, no real direction, i don't agree they don't know right from wrong. they do know right from the wrong, they just don't care and that's the problem. >> sir, we do appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. that's all the time we have tonight. hope to see you back here tomorrow. "piers morgan starts right now."

>> it's so good. jeff bridges actor/actor, oscar winner. the last picture "the fabulous baker boys." the big lebowski." "true grit" and many more. tonight jeff bridges is live with his work and his latest passion. that's his music. the great jeff bridges for the hour, the dude, this is "piers morgan tonight." is it possible to have a 40-year career in hollywood makeover, 60 movies, and still have a reputation as mr. nice guy? well apparently it is if you are jeff bridges and he joins me now to test this theory. everybody tells me in the business and out, you're the nicest guy in show business. how do you plead?

>> i'm going for guilty. >> have you always been easy to work with? because the running theme of all of your co-workers have you seem to be the nicest guy to work with. >> yeah, i think i have, you know. i take my lead from my old man, lloyd. lloyd bridges, you know. my dad. >> yeah. great man. >> who loved showbiz so much and, you know, i got to work with him as a kid. whenever there was a role for a little kid, he would say, come but i larry is to rent

you know, that's -- that really is a good tip. >> have you learned that or have you -- i notice an interesting career path. you're taking this year off to do music but you also made ten movies before you were really convinced you wanted to do this at all. >> absolutely. >> the tear in your life has always been between the music and movies? >> well, like most kids, i didn't want to do what my folks wanted me to do. but i had my own idea. >> they were both movie stars? >> my mom wasn't a movie star. they met at ucla, you know, in the drama department. and my mom was probably the best actor of the whole bunch. but they were so encouraging about showbiz and my dad loved it so much.

and, you know, i dug it pretty much. but i had this music thing going that i really loved. and i had those dreams. and then the movie thing took off and it was like a path of least resistance kind of thing. like i said, i enjoyed it. and so a certain part of my -- i can tell you the moment -- do you want me to tell you -- this is kind of an indepth interview. i was making a movie called last american hero. this was maybe 14th, 15th movie. and playing a stock car driver. and normally after a film i had this feeling of, oh, i don't want to ever make another movie again. it uses a funny kind of muscle, you know, in this pretending business. i said, i don't want to pretend anymore. i just want to be me, you know,

that kind of thing. so a week after that i got a call from my agents very excited and he said, i've got great news. john frankenheimer wants you to be with robert fry andly marvin. i said, oh, that's nice. i'm going to pass. they said, what do you mean? i said, i'm bushed, man. i'm going to pass. they said, you're kidding me. he hung up and five minutes later lamont johnson called me and in a very low voice and said, i hope you turn this ice man cometh down. i said yes, i'm bush. he said, you're bushed? and i said yeah. and he said, you're a [ bleep ] and he hung up on me. and i thought, well, i'm wondering what my career path

will be here and i know i don't really particularly want to do this. maybe i will do it and this will put the final nail in the coffin. so i experimented. i got on board of that film and it was such an interesting experience. you know, most movies if you're lucky, you shoot for eight, ten weeks. this was a ten-week rehearsal with a wonderful director and then we shot it in two weeks. so it was a big play and that was play was like four hours long. it was a chance of working with these old masters. >> and is that when you really fell in love with the craft? >> oh, yeah. i mean, something about it. and it was interesting thing about anxiety, remember, have fun and all of that. and i thought early on, gee, maybe if this ng tea, you do it for so long and then it kind of

goes. and on that film, ice man comeeth, i learned that that was not the case. robert ryan, a wonderful actor, we had a lot of scenes over a table like this. and i see these big puddles of sweat and said, bob, after all of these years you're still nervous? he said, oh, yeah, i'd really be scared if i wasn't scared. >> really? >> and frederick march, he's like in his late 80s and anxiety and not wanting to drop this great opportunity. big time. >> imagine making movies, because of the pace of them, unlike live theater, there's no real nerves because if you make a mistake you just redo it. >> oerk, no, but it's the whole -- you know, the term, dropping the ball. that's what it feels like.

remember with crazy heart, for instance, what an opportunity to do this movie with -- >> it was the perfect film. >> oh, my gosh. >> your dream role. >> burnett is in charge of the music. how wonderful. yeah, but are you going to be able to pull it off? are you going to do it. >> it's like the wide receiver going out for a long ball. please, let me catch this thing, you know. >> fascinating. >> yes. it creates more anxiety. >> yeah. and when you played that role, obviously music being this great passion outside of movies for you, you could see it in the depiction of the character. i mean, have you ever thought that could have been you? you could have had this career and ended up like washed up old cowboy has been? >> i'm glad i listened to the old man. >> when you were wobbling about the movie, what did your dad say to you? >> what did he say? you know, it -- he didn't have to say much because the opportunities kept -- you know, the last picture show, that

happened when i was maybe 19 or 20 years old. that was nominated for an academy award. >> let's play a clip from "the last picture show". >> my girl ain't mean nothing to you? >> she isn't your girl. >> she is my girl. >> you don't even live her name. >> that don't make no difference. i'm telling you right now, she's going to marry me when i get some more money. >> she's going off to college. i doubt i'll be able to go with her again when she gets off. she's never going to marry you. >> don't tell me she won't. she'd never let you view her, that's for sure. >> what do you think when you watch yourself? >> i'm thinking of timmy, what a wonderful actor he is and he didn't get the recognition, i don't think, that he deserved in that movie. but movies are full of that kind of thing.

the stuff that goes unnoticed. >> you're a good critic of yourself? >> a good critic, you mean -- >> are you right? >> i think so, i think so. yeah. you get kind of honed, you get better. >> you won six times and then finally you -- it was a wonderful moment when you won the oscar and we'll come back to that later. but did you feel that despite all of your best efforts, you were never actually going to win an oscar and does it begin to eat away? >> no. no. no. it's a relief. when they don't call your name, you're like, i have to get up there? >> you don't mean that? >> oh, it's wonderful. yeah. oh, yeah. i think i even said in the thing, kind of what blows my underappreciated status, that was the cool place to be. that's the place up want to be. >> because it's like more comfortable there. you're not as exposed, right? >> oh, for all kinds of reasons.

it's just nicer, you know, to be not put on the spot, not to beat anything else. it's wonderful to be acknowledged by your peers, you know, the guys who do what you do to get that tip. that does -- you know, that's in the -- >> are you comfortable with the fact that right now you're about as big a movie star as america has? does that scare you? does that unnerve you? do you wish you could crawl back into a slightly more comfortable zone? >> as you say that, kind of challenge it. only as you say t i normally don't think of that kind of stuff. >> very few people have had the run of success that you have. you're saying, okay, let's -- >> yeah. >> is it partly that? >> is it partly what? >> are you partly deliberately getting out of the movie game

for a year to calm things down? you must be getting every script out there? >> i just wanted a little bit of a break. i did a bunch back to back with tron and "true grit" came very close together. talk about that pretend muscle getting exhausted. >> i'm curious, before we go to a break, about the psychology of jeff bridges who, at the peak of his powers, with everybody who wanted to give you the best roles out there, you walk away for a year? >> hmm. >> what should we read into this? it can't be because of the fantasy of music. >> well, it was just, you know, bushed. i was bushed, you know. and that's kind of how i always planned it. i've been so fortunate. i'm a product of nepotism, you know.

the hardest thing about acting is the profession is getting the break. as you know, you do the show. you know about that kind of stuff. and my dad got me in there and once i took off, i've never really been ambitious or eager or any of that kind of stuff. it's funny. >> you should reserve the right to feel bushed. >> there you go. yeah. when we come back, i want to talk to you about the women that you said this about. when i was young and in my 20s, i feared marriage. i thought it was a giant step towards death and then you met a woman and you thought, now this is interesting and everything changed. >> taking a break or are you going to talk about that? a lot of times, things are right underneath our feet, and all we need to do is change the way we're thinking about them. a couple decades ago, we didn't even realize just how much natural gas was trapped in rocks

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>> hey, go to bed, frank, or this is going to get ugly. yeah? come on. >> he hit me. >> that was you and your brother bo in the baker boys. >> what a dream that was. you know, bo, music, and michelle. dream come true. >> the dream tape. >> yes. >> i read the clip before the break about how your marriage changed. you said, this is interesting when you met this woman called susan. and then last year you said, i

really am more in love with her now more than ever. that was 34 years later. >> yeah. >> what was it about her? how did you know she was going to be that interesting for you? >> it was the corny love at first sight thing. >> initially? >> oh, yeah. >> where are were you? >> i met her on a movie set. one of my favorite states, montana, we were doing a scene with sam, harry, and richard bright and we were soaking in a hot tub at a dude ranch called chico hot springs. and you know how guys will take a magazine or something and look like this and use that as a shield to check out the gishls, you know, so i'm doing that and i see this girl, a gorgeous girl who is watching us and she looks like she's working there or something.

she's got a broken nose and two black eyes and she's just gorgeous. i cannot take my eyes off of her. she busts me every time. i look at her. and it's -- i don't know about for you, i would imagine for you, too, it's tough asking a girl out. you've got to really, you know, get the courage -- >> yeah. don't you think? >> totally. >> i finally work my courage up to ask her out and i say, would you like to go out tonight? and she goes, no. it's a small town. maybe i'll see you around. i said, really? she goes, yeah. i say, okay. and her prophecy came true and maybe -- i think it might have been that night, the night after that, i saw her in a bar and we danced and that was it and now we cut 20 years later, so i'm married. we've got three kids. i'm sitting at my desk opening

my mail and i get a letter from the makeup man on that show and it might be an interest to you, it's two shots of you asking a local girl out for a date and it's a picture of me asking my wife out for a date from that moment and her saying no and there was a picture taken. >> of the moment of rejection? >> of that moment. and a closeup. because she was the prettiest girl in the joint. and i'll show it to you right now. >> i know. >> i carry it. this is my prized possession. and you'll say, why did i fall in love.

>> look at that. >> isn't that wild? you can see -- >> absolutely. >> that is the moment -- >> that's the picture? >> those are the first words that i ever spoke to my wife asking her out and her answer was no. >> that is absolutely extraordinary. >> and it shows how pretty she is with her two black eyes. how did she get those black eyes? >> a car accident. >> when i think was she the right woman and there's no question. >> why do you think you've been able to have such a happy, sustainable marriage in a business in which is so littered with failure in that department? >> luck i'm sure has a lot to do with it.

my parents were very and we developed a practice of leaning into those tough times. here's an opportunity for us to get a little more intimate, to know a little bit more about each other. and we don't shy away from it. it doesn't scare us so much. and in a marriage, you know, i was -- we've been married, what, 34 years, you said. i forget that sometimes. but it's a long time and it doesn't take 34 years to find out that you're going to clash. and whether you take those clashes and say, all right, that's it. that's the line, i am out of here, or you take that as an opportunity to make that growth a little further to hold that and hold that and hold that and then do you that quite a while and make that your practice.

>> do you think too many people throw in the towel too early? >> i think so. yeah. yeah. because rewards become, you know, so wonderful and it becomes more and more precious. the deeper the intimacy becomes. that's the high and life. to be intimate. that's what we wanted to do. and when you get the gray moments, it's ten times better. and then the clash, it's always kind of an ancient thing. it's almost like a different version of the same thing. you know, over and over. we're going to go on a break and talk about my personal favorite of your life and it's obvious, you are obviously to me and always going to be the dude.

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let me explain something to you. i am not mr. loboski. you're the dude. >> you're the dude. to millions of people around the world, you will always be the dude. lots of other movies. to me, every year, literally, i watch it. >> good for you. >> bottle of wine, few friends, we howl with laughter. >> isn't that a good one? >> one of the best. >> so good. >> smart, funny comedy. right? how those things should go hand in hand. >> i don't know how they do it. >> you know, i read that thing.

it made me laugh, you know, all the way through it. i was kind of surprised when it came out and didn't do it. and had to come back years later and it became a cult hit. you notice that there are no flaws. >> how beautiful. >> what did you make of it? >> that's very sweet. that's very sweet. >> compliment. >> it really is. you don't see it going on. >> are you aware of the kind of, i don't know, admiration is not a strong enough word. are you aware of that? are you proud of that? >> yeah.

especially with this reward thing. when these guys stood up and, strong, that is a strong feeling. >> what does that tell you? >> about my folks, i feel like i'm an extension of them, really. >> what would they have made of it, really? >> they were there, circling the room and they were just, you know, beaming. smiling. oh. >> you could feel it? >> oh, god yeah. >> was that the greatest moment of your life? >> it feels great.

you know, then there's the -- you know, the work itself and working with all of these great -- and with all of these other artists and to throw all of your artestry. >> let's have a look at "crazy heart." ♪ >> as you finish that movie, did

you have a feeling that this could be the one? flares a lot of stumbling room between finishing a movie and coming out and people seeing it. we were so fortunate to have fox search light be our distributor, who, they are the specialists that really treat those kinds of movies. >> i want to read you great quotes. there's a very weird collection of sayings and quotes. this one i live. after ecstasy, the laundry. did you get a laundry moment your wife says, put your pants on? >> that's part of life. yeah. >> how about this one? randolph, he who mounts a wild elephant goes where a wild elephant goes.

mounted many wild elephants? >> yeah, i mounted one right now. you never know. yeah. >> do you feel like life's about mounting an elephant, about taking risks? >> it can be. it can be. i mean, you can get in trouble, too. >> what's been the biggest gamble that you've taken, do you think, with your career? >> before you said the word career, i was going to say marriage. i was deathly afraid of getting married. my theory is that death is the last step, that marriage is the next step because this is the woman, now of the other women,

the fear of marriage is really the fear of death. and getting back to the movies, what was the question? what was -- well, the biggest gamble professionally. >> well n. a funny way, we touched on this earlier, even though crazy heart was taylor made, the director, scott cooper was -- he wrote it with me in mind. all of these things. >> it's not about being able to fulfill your own expectations? >> yeah. that's the big thing. >> because as a musician yourself, you don't want to be scene as a poor performer? >> yeah. yeah. >> this is what i care about. and, yeah. >> we're going to go to break and come back and talk to you

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♪ ♪ it's amazing what a little bit of love can can do ♪ ♪ let me show you what a little bit of love can do ♪ >> that was a song from the first album due out on august 16th. tell me about your music. i know you love it and obviously you're incredibly good at it. tell me about the fashion. where does it come from?

>> there is chuck barry, richard, and then picking up, i remember he had a white guitar that i really coveted and finally stole from him. >> you can't have both? >> you know why? i dig the statue. >> where do you keep it? >> it's sitting between our kitchen and dining room. >> how often do you look at that? >> every time i go by.

>> it's a beautiful -- >> yeah. it's a beautiful thing. >> so you wouldn't swap? >> i don't think swapping. no. and i dig the album. bone digs it. my wife digs it. that's about it. >> are you proud of it? >> oh, man, that's what it did for me. the musicians are so remarkable. >> you're only grown once but

can be immature forever. are you grown up? >> i don't think you ever do. whatever you want to say, just a few days ago, all the guys up in montana, we jammed. got a little drunk. it was pretty cool. talking about intimacy, getting high. >> well, the one thing you're brilliant at is getting drunk.

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i felt the ball. >> my shot? >> you are more handicapped with the eye than the eye without the arm. >> that's running cheap shells on me again. >> performance by jeff bridges in "true grit." you are pretty good at this, aren't you? and the drinking. >> yes. >> have you been a big drinker in your life? where do you get this master portrayal of drunks?

>> you know, i've -- i've been puke drunk before, a few times. >> when was the last time? >> that i've been puke drunk? >> yes. >> i would say 20 years ago, something like that, you know, a long time ago. >> so you just hold it better these days? >> yeah. i don't like getting hung over. i made the mistake early in my career of you know saying i have a drunk scene. i'll just get drunk. that seems to be the easiest way to approach that, you know. so i made that mistake. it was a movie, sally field. and i made myself a drink at 6:00 for my scene at 9:00. and i danced my off and then there was the next scene and the next scene and the morning after. so i never made that mistake again. i learned my lesson.

and now i simply use something that actors call sense memory. >> why. >> well, that is you remember how that was and you recall it and you pretend. >> really? scence memory? >> scent memory. take wild turkey or something and, you know, that helped the other actress, too. but you don't want to get drunk or high. >> i wonder what that smell was? >> what's that? >> i wondered what that smell was. >> exactly. >> who do you think are the greatest living actors? if you were casting a dream team? >> gosh, there's some good ones. tommy lee is a good one. tommy lee jones, meryl streep is good. i'd love to work with her. i got to work with bob duvall.

>> is there a great role thaw haven't played that you'd love to play? is there something out there? is there a great book you'd like to read, a great remake? is there something that has stirred in your gut for a while? >> generally i'm not one of those guys that has that kind of, you know, i've got to play lincoln or something like that. there are a couple of things they can't even really tell you about because i don't want to, you know -- >> jinx it. >> jinx it. and i don't know if it'll ever happen because right along with that same kind of -- say, oh, yeah that would be -- that's really unique. that would be a great thing to do. there's another side of me that's the bush side. please god do i got to do that? you know what i mean? please, don't make me do that. >> you must have enough money to just say you know what, forget acting. i am going to go to montana and play the guitar. >> yeah. >> are you ever tempted to push

that button? >> yeah a bit, i'll be pushing it a little bit. kind of what i did this year, you know? >> did you like it? did you miss the movies? >> no, i didn't miss the movies at all, no. you know one of the cool things about fame and success is that gives you a voice to talk about some of the things that are important to you or help kind of direct the kind of -- the world in the direction that you'd like to see it going. so as i was saying earlier, this year i did my music which was kind of a very satisfying, personally. but i also got to focus attention on ending hunger here in our country. >> hold that thought because exactly what i want to talk to you about. >> oh good. >> after this last break. the no kid hungry campaign. introducing the schwab mobile app.

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look around you, 1 in 4 kids around the u.s. faces hunger. it's not always easy to see the signs, but in this land of plenty, there are kids who don't know whether they will get their next meal. >> you're a spokesman for the no kid hungry campaign. just quickly, tell me what it is in its essence. >> it's about ending childhood hunger here in america. and we're doing that by going

state by state, working with governors and mayors and you know heads of food pantries and so forth, finding out what is the -- where is the bottleneck? because here in america, we have enough food, we have enough programs that we know can end hunger, but it's the access to those programs is really a huge problem. >> is president obama doing the right amount of stuff, do you think in this area? >> he was the guy who really put the whole thing in context. when he was campaigning, he -- he said, we're going to end childhood hunger here in america by 2015. and that really got all of the hunger organizations to pay attention. >> and that's not going to happen, is it? >> well, he said -- you know, they said, our president, for the first time -- you know, obama, he lived on food stamps. he was the first president who really knows what that's all about. and he said, we're -- the hunger organization said, we're going to get behind this guy. and this is what we have to do, mr. president. and they started to really, you

know, list these things. and what you just said, it's not really going to happen, you know that's kind of what i thought. 2015, and i think that he kind of went off a little bit half kock, because i think that the hunger organizations were really going for more, you know, 2020. but the fact that he said that, it set a goal, and goals are interesting. you know it's like when kennedy said you know in ten years we're going to put a guy on the moon and all of a sudden, all the arguments about what kind of fuel and what the shape should be, and all of a sudden now the context has changed, now those arguments are helping each other. we're going to figure out. i want to know why you don't think this is going to work? and so, you know goals are interesting that way. they're kind of inspiring, you know. >> what goals do you have left? >> to end childhood in america is a big goal of mine. maybe it could be my only goal.

as we sit here right now, i really can't think of anything that i really want to do more than that. >> you say it takes one of the great -- >> what's that? >> you take to great box recently in the gold department. >> what's that? oh, man. >> one of your three daughters gave you a grandchild. >> absolutely. >> how did that make you feel? >> my god, grace, it was so wild. she had the baby on the bathroom floor. can you imagine? >> really? >> she called us up 6:00 in the morning, saying i think my water's broke. get to the hospital. no, i think we're just going to, you know, with thedula that we have. no we don't have to do that and when they go to the hospital you know when the water breaks, they want to pitch you right -- you know pepos it right away because the baby can get -- >> that is crazy. >> the daughter of the dude. the granddaughter of the dude. >> that's isabel -- i'm going to be called dude pa.

but isabel, you know she was so -- in such great shape mentally. you know she meditates twice a day, yoga and everything, and so i said, well, did it hurt, you know? she goes, well, it was an intense sensation but no, i really can't say it was painful. you know, very wild. >> do your daughters, i mean do they feel particularly blessed to have the dude as their dad? >> oh, i don't know. maybe. i think so. you know we tell each other we love each other all of the time and i think they made it. i think so. i think so. but you know it's a funny thing, that's when it's all that you know, you know, i kind of felt that about by own folks. i just want to say one thing before i know our time is kind of running short and i just wanted to say that anybody out there who needs food, needs access to food or knows anyone who needs access to food especially during these summer months where it's so important, most kids get their food at school.