searching for a wounded chipmunk". people have been writing really nice things as well like" omg. watching anderson cooper giggle is like watching a unicorn far the rainbows". i think that's a compliment. whatever. if my meltdown made you smile i'm glad. because really at the end of the day if laughing about a possibly drunk french actor openly relieving himself on a plane is wrong, then i don't want to be right. hey, that's 360. thanks for watching. john king usa starts now. see you tomorrow. good evening. tonight finally the united nations has an explicit demand for syria's brutal dictator. >> a transition to democracy in syria has begun and it's time for assad to get out of the way. >> also he angered some african-americans by calling flash mob thugs an embarrassment to their race. tonight philadelphia's mayor on race, the jobs crisis and a stunning new crime problem. up first, though, a punishing day on wall street raises serious alarms about the risk of

another recession. and adds new urgency to the political debate here in washington over new jobs initiatives. the dow jones industrial average was down just short of 420 points or 3.7%. the nasdaq down 5.2%. the s & p 500 down 4.5%. it is what drove the markets down that is again stoking recession fears. overseas more jitters as europe struggles to contain its debt crisis. here at home, data some see as evidence of a new downturn. weekly unemployment claims rose much more than expected. sales of existing homes dropped by 3.5% in july. analysts had been expecting a modest increase. the key manufacturing index was way down. and inflation on consumer goods was up. add in collapsening consumer confident and you get sober advice like this. >> 2012 could be a very difficult year. i'm on the camp that we have more chance of being in recession than avoiding it. so they should be conservative right now.

their confidence should be down. because there's every reason out there that they shouldn't feel confident. >> getting us started tonight, our chief business correspondent aali velshay. >> i wanted to pull back and take a look at the dow which is what a lot of people's 401 ks look like. wanted to take a look at it from the beginning of the year. we started just above 11,500 on the dow. went up to 12,500. the middle of july everything was fine. then in august look at that big drop. down well below 11,000. then it popped back up to 11,500. looked like things were okay for awhile and then back down. what triggered this? you mentioned some of the things. we got into today as a trading day with a lot of trouble over in asia and europe. in fact those european markets took a major, major beating on news that germany's economy has

almost stalled and france's is completely even. we got a report out from morgan stanley this morning. it said things that we had all sort of thought. but now it was on paper. number one it said we are dangerously close to a recession. dangerously close. it doesn't say it's entirely likely. it doesn't even say it's their base assumption. but dangerously close. is also says that europe and the u.s. have made policy errors, that's the central bank's and the political system. in fact, it referred specifically to the drama of the debt ceiling debate in the united states. that has sucked the confidence out of investors worldwide. and number three, it says both the fed and the european central bank may need to intervene again. boy, you've been talking about this decision by -- this comment by rick perry that any intervention, further intervention by the fed between now and the election would be considered treasonous. so on one hand investors say we may need more money from the central banks and politicians here in the united states saying it's treasonous. let's take a look at the u.s. situation.

there are a few things that happened today in and of themselves wouldn't have caused the selloff that we saw. but they exacerbated it. you mentioned some of this a little bit earlier. number one, every week on thursday we get jobless claims from the previous week. we got those numbers today. they were higher than the previous week. not by much, but any bad news rattles the market like this. number two, existing home sales were down in july. and that means prices were down as well. that's very unusual. prices are so low you'd think people would be snapping up houses, particularly since you can get a 30-year mortgage for under 4.5% if you have good credit and a down payment. number three, consumer prices are up. prices for the goods that you pay are up. the money you earn is not up. the value of your house is not up and your investments are not going up but the costs of living are going up. that's a problem. number three, by the way, that means less money to put into the economy because you're spending it on the things that you're already buying. number four, manufacturing. that's actually been an area of some strength in the last year. and a new report as you said showed it weakening. you put that all together and

you've got investors saying i don't want to be in stocks. i want to be in things that are safe. they were buying gold. gold hit another record. and putting their money into treasury bills which by the way these days offer virtually no interest because they're safe. that's the story of what happened today. joh john? >> what can be done. let's get perspective from cnn's fareed zakaria. fareed you write and i want to read in the "washington post" today "everything we do as a country should be geared toward the central task of boosting employment. some of this will involve government spending. an infrastructure bank that uses current low interest rates, includes the private sector and chooses projects based on merritt rather than patronage is one of the best ideas to come out of washington in years". best idea to you, speaker boehner the other house republican leadership says that's more stimulus spending. not happening. >> this is part of the problem. we've gotten into an absurd political debate where everything the government does

is called stimulus spending. it's important to understand what we're talking about. we're talking about rebuilding america's infrastructure, bridges, highways, but also, for example, a power grid, also broadband. all this would be done using an infrastructure bank that would largely use private sector money. that is it would borrow from the private sector and using and taking advantage of current low interest rates. you know, the odd thing here is america actually builds its infrastructure under the current setup in a quarter anxiety socialist way. the government does everything. what i'm suggesting, and this is president obama's suggestion, kay bailey hutchison's suggestion, what i'm suggesting is we use a method used in lots of other countries that basically gets the private sector involved in all these projects. >> how do we crack that code, if you will, and break the pair paralysis. yesterday the president was in illinois. after his town hall meeting i

talked to bobbie schilling. i asked him about infrastructure. he said well that's not democratic or republican. that's a red, white and blue issue. we can probably agree on that. and then it was almost as if a switch flipped in his head and he quickly turned and said this. >> what we need to look for is private sector, permanent jobs, not taxpayer-funded temporary jobs because we've already seen a failed stimulus that's cost our kids and our grandkids over trading bucks. we're willing to work with -- i shook his hand today and said mr. president we're here to work with you but we're going to need a little bit of help from your side also. >> how do we break this code if you will? >> well, if you talk to the ceos, if you listen to jeff imelt, andrew libris of dow, any of the major ceos in america, they all point out we have terrible infrastructure, we're falling behind, and the ironic thing here is, what is being proposed is actually a much more private sector-friendly, much more market-friendly approach than we have. what does the congressman mean

by permanent jobs? there aren't no such thing as permanent jobs anymore. companies, small companies start up and go out of business all the time. they hire people when they need them. they let them go. the same would be true of construction projects. and by the way, it's very important to point out when you think about infrastructure, this is not government workers. the government would be in part paying for private sector funds, for private sector construction funds. we have a 20 to 25% unemployment rate in the construction industry. >> another point you make in your column that i think is an incremental step but i want you to tell me how important you think it should be "we should make it easier for tourist toss get visas and work hard to make them feel welcome. they are in the words of starwood hotels ceo fritz van paasschen a walking stimulus program". >> in our country, the united states these days ever since 9/11 we've basically been trying to stop people from coming into this country. that has been to the extent we

have a policy toward visitors, it's basically to say how can we stop you from coming in because one out of every 10 million of you might possibly be a terrorist. it's crazy. what we should be trying to do, we should be the leading tourist destination in the world. right now france is. we're five times the size of france. we have got everything from the grand canyon to disney world to broadway to the metropolitan museum. we should be the world leader in. this and if we were to do it, it would create tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of jobs in the hotel business and the hospitality business, in travel, and it doesn't require much congressional action. this is actually an area where the administration would need courage. because of course you're going to have people claiming that we're being soft on terrorism and all this kind of nonsense. but it is something that we could mercyfully do while something is in recess. >> in the course of this conversation we've mentioned several scos ceos. what is their sense if we were having a conversation three or four months ago most people thought the economy was going to

grow slowly but not stumble back into recession. in recent days when you see consumer confidence down, soft housing reports, soft manufacturing reports, the volatility on wall street, the european debt crisis, more and more smart people are saying 2012 might be another recession. >> what they would say to answer your question is it's actually not as bad as it looks, meaning that data is softer than what they're seeing on the ground. and they read the data as being a temporary blip downward. nobody thinks there's going to be rebust growth. but none of the ones i talked to seemed to think that we were going into a second recession. >> well, let's certainly hope they're correct. fareed zakaria as always thank you. >> pleasure. still ahead, you see it right there. flash mob crime is proving much more than a summer fad. philadelphia's mayor is here to describe his tough love approach to stopping it next maybe it took too long but tonight proebds has a simple message to syria's brutal dictator, step down.

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it took five long bloody months but today finally it came and it had a loud echo. first a paper statement from the president obama that the explicit call that those brave demonstrators in syria have long wanted. " for the sake of the syrian people, the time has come for assad to step aside". the first echo came from america's top diplomat who it is worth noting not too long ago praised the syrian strong man as a reformer. but today, the blood of those killed finally meant more than some romantic theory that bashar al assad might someday see the light. >> and we will stand up for their universal rights and dignity by pressuring the regime and assad personally to get out

of the way of this transition. >> next, the joint statement calling on assad to step down from the leaders of the united kingdom, france and germany, a united front secretary clinton says sends an important message. >> the assad government has now been condemned by countries in all parts of the world and can look only to iran for support for its brutal and unjust crackdown. >> let's check in with cnn's arwa damon who's monitoring the syrian political cries is from beirut. arwa, the big question is, will the president of the united states saying assad must go, will the european leaders, the u.k., france, germany saying assad must go, will it have any impact on his behavior? >> reporter: i think what we're going to have to wait for is to see how turkey is going to react, how countries like saudi arabia, other arab nations, if

they do then follow suit. that could possibly lead to greater pressure on the syrian government. but since the onset of this, this has been a government that whenever the u.s. talked about the president's loss of legitimacy has merely skofd, it has been a government that has quite simply said in the past if you'll remember that europe would just cease to exist for syria and it would continue to look to its friends towards the east. other critical players are also going to be china and india, russia as well, because russia is still at this point continuing to sell weapons to the assad regime. so it's going to take a bigger union of many more countries before assad really feels that diplomatic pressure. but analysts will tell you this is at least a first step towards that. >> and so if the regime would feel a little heat initially or moderate heat initially, what about the conduct of the human rights activists? you talk to many in the community who for months have said the united states has a moral obligation to stand with

us. will it have an impact on the brave souls who have been risking their lives across syria? >> reporter: you know, john, since the onset of this people have always been asking us, wondering what it is going to take for global leaders like the u.s. that always promotes democracy, they say, and others to begin to stand with the activists. some of them will say that they were under no illusion that the assad regime was going to ever change its course so why did it take america this long. that being said, i was speaking with one man an activist from ha ma who we had been in touch with federal regularly. he's now gone into hiding. his family has been threatened. but he said that after hearing this announcement at the very least at this point in time he felt as if he, the syrian opposition, was no longer standing alone. >> no longer standing alone. we will see how it plays out out from here. arwa damon in beirut tonight, thank you. let's continue this important conversation with nick burns,

the normaler undersecretary of state, currently a professor at harvard and syrian human rights activist mohammed al abdullah. nick, you have said many times this should have happened sooner. it has happened. the question is now can the administration somehow create some momentum in addition to the europeans, the saddyes to not say it's a killing machine but assad must go. what has to happen next? >> john, it's a significant step by the obama administration because it isolates assad, it depreeshs his credibility in the region and internationally, and it hopefully will empower the opposition. syria matters. what happens next hopefully in other countries, turkey, egypt, saudi arabia will follow suit. if russia and china would cooperate more in the u.n. security council for a hard-core resolution to repudiate the syrian regime, that would be consequential. but this country is a very important country. it's a neighbor to israel, a neighbor to iraq, an ally of iran, and hamas and hezbollah. so obviously the administration now is trying to focus

international pressure. it's almost always better when the united states acts multilaterally with other countries rather than alone. that's why i think, john, you saw the obama administration wait several weeks longer than many of us thought they should to take the step today. >> and so mohammed you heard from arwa damon. she was talking to some of these brave folks she keeps in touch with who say at least morally they don't feel alone. what is your sense from talking to friends inside syria and the community? what difference might it make in terms of the resolve from the demonstrators. >> for a long time i've heard from friends and activists inside syria resisting president assad just condemning the human sites violations, it was very significant and important to hear it clearly and loudly that president assad needs to step away or step aside, step down, because people cannot believe that the u.s. administration is not supporting him. there is a conspiracy theory in the head of those people in the middle east. it was great to hear that. and people now encouraged more to go to the street. we are not alone. the international community is with us and supporting us and

everybody watching, the u.n. security council is gathering to do something to protect us. it's very important step. >> you say very important. nick, mohammed says as a conspiracy theory that maybe the united states secretly supports assad through. this i think there's a reason some people have these doubts. this is because the secretary of state of the united states back in march. >> there's a different leader in syria now. many of the members of congress of both parties who have gone to syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer. >> we have seen this play out, nick, over the last five months. more than 2,000 people killed. we have vivid video proof assad is no reformer. why has there been this romantic view that somehow this guy would be different than his father? somehow he would open up and be a democrat? >> well, john, this was the son bashar al assad who was never supposed to lead syria. he only came back from his opthalmologist training in london because his brother died, the brother who was supposed to

become president. there's been a feeling for really the better part of the last decade among many people that perhaps he was different, he was better educated. but this is also the guy who aligned himself with iran, who opposed the united states and supported extremists in iraq when we were fighting there. and so i've never believed he was a reformer. and i think we've seen his true colors, especially over the last several months, especially since the arm of ramadan. >> how could so many smart people be so wrong about him? >> well, you know, i think in that region one is looking for partners and one is looking for friends. and there is the feeling that he came from a different place, he had significant international experience unlike most of the other leaders in syria. and obviously that assumption about him was plain wrong. because we've clearly seen what he's like over the last couple of months. >> mohammed, what should we look for in the next several days to see if this added international outrage, this specific explicit call to step down, if it has an

impact on the demonstrators and on the government? what shall we look for? >> it's going to have a sure impact on the protest. we expect a huge protest tomorrow. we're looking for a u.n. security council resolution. we need open embargo on syria because russia and iran is sending weapons and security confiscated weapons on the border. we need embargo on oil companies and gas companies. this is essential the time that syrian government cannot finance. this revolution is going to win. >> an important day and we will stay on top of the story. mohammed, nick, thanks for coming in to help us tonight still to come here, will a curfew and a pointed lecture from the pulpit of a black church stop flash mob violence in philadelphia? mayor michael nutter joins us next another stage collapse sends frightened musical festival fans running. we'll show you just where it happened this time. snowmen mass, who cuddle up with your soreness and give out polar bear hugs. technology.

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the term flash mob crime is sadly becoming a summer staple. in suburban maryland there was this shocking recent early morning robbery of a convenience store. in philadelphia earlier this month, the flash mob is blamed for the random beatings of nearly 60 people in the center city. a 11-year-old boy was among those arrested in addition to ordering a 9 p.m. curfew downtown, meyer michael nutter delivered a stern message from the pulpit of an african-american church. >> you damage yourself, you damage another person, you damage your peers, and quite honestly you damage your own race. you damage your own race. and another thing, take those doggone hoodies down, especially in the summer.

[ applause ] >> pull your pants up and buy a belt! because no one wants to see your underwear or the top of your butt. nobody! >> an em passioned speech from the mayor there. not everyone was impressed. writing in the philadelphia inquirer da net john hall suggested this "there he said it in a way his white constituents would hear him loud and clear. at that point he wasn't talking to black people anymore". mayor nutter is with us live tonight. mr. nutter let's begin right there with that criticism. a columnist suggesting you go into a black church to chat advertise the community in an attempt to appeal to white people. >> well, i know annette john hall and i respect her a great deal. she was not there. but the fact of the matter is that i am mayor of all of philadelphia, african-americans, whites, latinos, asians and everyone else. it was my church where i've been a member of 25 years. i had a message that i wanted to

deliver for the city, but in particular to the african-american community. unfortunately, many of the young people involved in these activities are african-american boys and girls. having said that, john, i am one, a very proud african-american. and it is personally painful to me whenever anyone in this city gets involved in negative activity, but especially african-american boys and girls or adults for that matter. so i meant what i said. i said what i said. and i stand by it. people will interpret the things in a variety of ways. but that's the beauty of living in the united states of america. no one can dispute the fact that it is illegal, inappropriate and ignorant for young people or anyone else to run down the street and attack innocent citizens who have not done anything to you for which you have no reason to be engaged in that kind of activity. so the primary point here is that actually we have thousands and thousands and hundreds of

thousands of really great young people here in philadelphia. they don't want to be known for this flash stupidity which is what it is. and they're working, they're winning contests. philadelphia youth poetry movement won the brave new voices national spoken word contest in san francisco just a few weeks ago. the north phillie black hawks won the pop warner football like super bowl championship for the country. and we've had any number of other young people doing really positive things. and i'm very proud of those young people. but i have a different message for those who want to engage in that kind of ignorant, stupid behavior. it will not be tolerated. and we're looking to have more positive things for young people to do, but we are issuing very stern warning and taking actions for those who just don't get the message. >> and for those who just don't get the message you've imposed this curfew. that too has received some critici criticisms. this is from a professor from columbia university writing

"over the past decade we've seen the rise in anti-youth policies like civil injunctions against gangs, anti-baggy pants legislation, zero tolerance in schools. in the case of curfews we literally make it illegal to be young and outside. through these practices we alienate our children and produce the very criminal men stall it is and behaviors that we hope to destroy". mr. mayor make the case for the curfews. >> i actually know professor hill very well. in the same piece he did agree with some of the things that we've done. and also said that he understood why we did some of them. the fact of the matter is that if you are under 18 years of age, you can still be downtown after 9:00 if you're with a parent or other guardian who is responsible for you. so the point here is that instead of parents just sending their kids out to run around at all hours of the day and night, in the two areas where we've had the most trouble, which have been different parts of center city and university city which is why we imposed it in those

targeted areas because that's where the young people have been doing these things, we want everyone, young and young at heart, to come to philadelphia, have a good time, be downtown, be in university city, be in north philadelphia and northeast, northwest, wherever you want to be have, a good time. but we have rules. we will not allow this kind of activity. and if young people want to be out, either be out and have a good time and don't do bad things or don't be out after the curfew, otherwise you're going to have a problem. >> i know you say that high unemployment, city budget cutbacks that might reduce services are no excuse for thuggery. and i agree with you 1,000%, mr. mayor. but some people have said you've got 39% unemployment estimated among african-american teenagers in your city. other city around the country have a similar problem. so members of the congressional black caucus have been out around the country, some saying in part they want more from the president of the united states. the first african-american president of the united states. they suggest he has not done

enough to help his own community. listen here. >> we want to give them every opportunity but our people are hurting. unemployment is unconscionable. we don't know what the strategy is. we don't know why on this trip that he's in the united states now. we don't know that. >> congresswoman waters essentially saying the president's nowhere in her view in the african-american community to help create jobs. is that fair? >> i do not -- i mean other than hearing it as you just played it, i don't know the context of representative waters comment. i think the president has done a lot of things to help this country, and certainly african-americans have been a beneficiaries in a variety of ways but when you look at what's going on in philadelphia, as you pointed out in your intro, one of the young people arrested was 11 years old. that's not awn employment problem. this is a lack of parental guidance problem. a 16-year-old, a 17-year-old, a 19-year-old. these are bad decisions being made. lack of jobs notwithstanding, we have every one of our rec

centers is open, every one of our swimming pools is open, every one of our libraries is open, all services being provided. there is no excuse, none, not even economic status, for engaging in illegal activity or beating people up on the street. i will not tolerate it under any set of circumstances. now, we've done some positive things. we extended the hours of our recreational centers. last weekend when we started the new curfew in center city we also had a number of positive things going on. 20 rec centers across the city with extended hours in every part of philadelphia, a huge bowling party that i was out and did a little bowling myself, 2 to 300 young people out doing positive things. this upcoming weekend, a roller skating party. we'll be doing any number of very positive things for young people. we have mentors and community leaders and civic organizations and the clergy actively engaged and involved. but parents must also step up as well. they're your children. we can help you raise them, but we're not going to raise them

for you. so i mean, i know that there are many, many social causes for a lot of things that go on. and there is a lot of pain out there. no question about it. the president will be announcing his plan for increasing the job opportunities in september. and i know that people are reporting that and i'm certainly well aware of that. i think if we had not spent as the congress spent two months or so of intense debate about whether or not to increase the debt ceiling when they should have been talking about jobs, you know, all of us would be much better off. but i look forward to the president's proposal. i know he's been focused on trying to create jobs he needs a lot more cooperation from the congress to get those kinds of things done. >> philadelphia mayor michael nutter. mr. mayor we wish you the best of luck and appreciate your time tonight, sir. >> thank you, john. still ahead, the deadliest attack on israel in two years. authorities say the new egyptian government shares the blame next a busy day on the campaign trail including a dust up over evolution. really? my grandfather was born in this village. [ automated voice speaks foreign language ]

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one important contest for the united states senate, in massachusetts elizabeth warren who helped set up that new consumer financial protection bureau, she set up a web site to explore a race against republican senator skog scott brown. in presidential politics, herman cane posted a picture on twitter. haley says she's not yet ready to endorse a republican candidate. also in south carolina, michele bachmann promise today make big changes at the environmental protection agency. >> i was campaigning these last few weeks. lock the doors and turn the lights off on that agency. that is the job-killing regulatory agency. and instead, focus on conservation. >> in new hampshire, rick perry comment along line today caught the attention of at least one of his republican rye rivals. >> i hear your mom is asking about evolution? and it's a theory that is out there. it's got some gas in it.

but in texas we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools. >> ask him why he didn't -- >> because i figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right. >> a bit later on twitter, form utah governor john huntsman took issue. "to be clear, i believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. call me crazy". our evolution and global warming new flash points in the gop race? let's begin with cnn contributor eric eric sen of red state.com and chip saltsman who managed mike huckabee's 2008 presidential campaign. eric, governor perry spent a lot of time on things he has said this week. that is his belief about evolution and creationism. he didn't take any reporters' questions today. but saying something like that along the rope line, this is going to be a campaign i assume about jobs, taxes, the size of government. where are we going with that one? >> i find it fascinating. so he's answered these questions on global warming and evolution

and then immediately pivoted back to jobs but now he's forced republican rivals to focus on global warming and evolution. not exactly selling points for them in the republican primary. he's pushing them to the left with the gop base. and meanwhile he goes back to talking about jobs. i would just point out what a cowardly mom that was to put her kid up to ask him that question, because she didn't want to ask the question. you can very clearly in the background hear her say ask him why he doesn't believe in science or something like that. people who know rick perry knows he believes in science. but good lord, what a non-issue. >> non-issue, chip saltsman. >> absolutely. i think what eric is saying it's genius what rick perry did. he's got all his rye values hanging on every word. the fact governor hunts-mad to respond to that. governor perry is talking about jobs the record in texas. that's what he wants to talk about. as you're seeing this race develop quickly everybody is going to be responding to what perry does today and that's good for the perry campaign. >> i'm going to play a little political chess. perry gets in the race this week

and it changes the dynamics of the republican race. going to show you a little map here and bring up some of our candidates. michele bachmann, now we know that iowa is key to her. she's the republican congresswoman. she's hoping to be out in iowa, get the support of christian conservatives, the tea party get a springboard out of iowa and come down to conservative south carolina. governor romney starts in new hampshire. of course he has to protect new hampshire. i'm going to put him up there. that's his big state right now. what changes this week are two things. number one the ames iowa straw poll. rick santorum comes in well enough to say maybe i can challenge michele bachmann out here in iowa to look for conservative votes. look for these two to spend a lot of time out there. governor perry comes in, no accident he announces here in south carolina. sorry congresswoman bachman, tradition athe state quite device nif republican politics. then governor perry says i'm not limited. i'm going to come over here. he plays in iowa. he want to play in iowa as well. then where is he today? he wants to down to new

hampshire. so how, guys, does this change the chess in the sense that governor romney wanted a new hampshire win to springboard him down to south carolina, come on down here, governor romney. and then from there now i'm told that because of perry romney would be happy to have bachmann win iowa. but because of perry look for governor romney, look, he went away. let's bring him back up here. and come here. look for governor romney, there we go, to spend more time and money in iowa. eric to you first, how much has perry complicated the chess? >> i think he's complicate it a good deal. take this evolution, creationism comment. iowa is wholly unrepresentative of the typical republican field. it's a wonder that either party has relied on it to be the first caucus. but the evolution creationism comments, the global warming comments, those helped perry in iowa whether he sets food there or not because it forces all the other candidates to decide whether they're to the left or right of him. in new hampshire let's not forget that rick perry's chief consultant is from new hampshire, knows how to win races in new hampshire.

then he announced in south carolina. after that you go to florida where he's already ahead in the polls there. >> so chip, you help governor huckabee to his big win in iowa in the last cycle. if romney spends a little bit more time out there and you have this essentially being the close. i know there are other candidates but this is the state of play at the moment. is governor perry shifting other people's strategy? what's going to happen? >> absolutely. i mean, governor perry's got a pretty straightforward texas two step strategy. iowa, skarngz, two good good consecutive states. south carolina being a southern state. iowa a conservative state where he'll do well at. michele bachmann has to have a win in iowa. a rubber match between bachmann and perry to see who gets to round two to take on romney for the nomination. romney's got to expand the board, though, because if he lets somebody in iowa like rick perry wins iowa, gets momentum and then goes to new hampshire, loses by a little bit, goes to south carolina and wins it's game over for everybody and perry's the nominee. >> we'll play more chess as this all plays out. it's a lot of fun and kind of complicated but that's why we're here. thanks, eric, thanks, chip.

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tonight at least seven israelis are dead and some 40 pounded following a series of attacks in the red sea resort of elat. israel blames hamas terrorists from gaza and say they crossed from gaza into egypt's sinai region. i discussed the attacks and the u.s. call for syrian's assad to step down with the syrian ambassador to the united states, michael ord. >> mr. ambassador, israel says these attacks happened because the terrorists were able to sneak through egypt. egypt says that did not happen. what's your proof? >> all of our intelligence services agree, john, that the terrorists came out of gaza across sinai. that's not the first time this has happened. >> i want to focus on the attack in a moment. but in terms of what has

happened in the region and the change of the government in egypt, israel had a peace treaty. there was generally security along that border. do you have an increasing problem with the new military government that you didn't have under the mubarek regime? >> it's not a problem with the transition government. it's a problem the fact that the egyptian army and the egyptian police are preoccupied elsewhere. and we are concerned about the growing instability and lack of control in sinai. it's not just terrorists coming out of gaza but it's bedouin blowing up our gas line there which provides 40% of our natural gas has been blown up five times in the last few months. israel in an extraordinary gesture has allowed egypt to bring in forces to sinai in excess of what was allowed under the peace treaty, and we hope that they'll be able to restore order and control throughout the sinai peninsula. >> tell me more what you know about the investigation and the intelligence. this is the worst attack inside israel in i think two years, two plus years.

exactly what happened? >> well, several groups of terrorists infiltrated to the border. they laid ambush along the tourist route to elat, one of israel's major tourist attractions in the south along the dead sea. lots of resorts. and they began to fire at civilian vehicles. they fired at two buses, they fired at two automobiles. they killed seven innocent israelis. they wounded dozens. israeli forces responded immediately. they killed a number of the terrorists. and later on in the day, israel reacted swiftly and forcibly by striking at the headquarters of this group, a group closely allied with hamas in gaza and killed several of its commanders in retaliation. you're speaking on the day the president of the united states came out and said president assad of syria must go. the prime minister of the u.k. chancellor of germany and france followed suit. we had a conversation several weeks back in early june on my program where you said israel had nothing to wish.

assad could go. that you couldn't do any worse. >> it's not a question that we prefer the devil we know to the devil we don't know. bashar al assad is sufficiently devilish. it's hard for us to imagine someone who would be a worse devil than he is. >> you made clear two months ago you were done with this devil. you saw no reason to stay in business with him and israel was fully prepared to say he should go. why did it take two months for the united states to come to that position? >> i'm not privy to the inner workings from the obama administration. i'm ambassador to the united states and not the other way around. i get the sense that president and the secretary of state hillary clinton wanted to move jointly with allies in europe and elsewhere and present a united front calling for assad to step out or step down. >> from israel's perspective when you look around the neighborhood, we are months into now what we have called the arab spring, is the security situation from israel' standpoint improving or deteriorating or is it just a big question mark? >> i think it's a big question mark. i think we're in the series of

an area that is in great flux, it's highly flammable in some cases. we see risks. we see the possibility that radical elements can hijack largely democratic movements as they did in lebanon and iran. in gaza itself. but we also see opportunities. and here syria is a classic example of where we see an opportunity. assad is one of the pillars of the just horrific alliance between syria and iran. assad is the architect of political assassinations in lebanon. he has supplied 50,000 rockets to hezbollah bow la in lebanon. 10,000 rockets to ha ma in the gaza strip. we honestly can't think of a person who would be more devilish than. this so in syria were assad to depart we would see that very much as an opportunity. >> ambassador to the united states michael oren in to see y tomorrow. "piers mor la