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chasing around -- >> we're done. >> reporter: for those of you who think the joy pet bring is just hot air -- >> the next best thing to a reunion. yes. >> reporter: couldn't you just once be happy to see me? >> happy? >> reporter: happy even when outnumbered. at least a soldier can say things to his dog that he probably shouldn't say to his wife. >> that's your butt. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. new york. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." the news continues on cnn. rebels battling moammar gadhafi's army say they are in complete control of towns surrounding tripoli. it is the most progress yet claimed by the rebels as they push toward the libyan capital. we'll have a live report for you. plus, a congressional black hawk says it has a bone to pick with president obama. congresswoman maxine waters is leading the charge. i'm going to talk with her live
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this hour about the issues at hand. also meet the new generation of flash mobs. kids using social media to commit crimes. what happened to the days of dancing and singing in the middle of the mall? hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. we start with breaking news. there's a lot of news. i want to get you caught up. it's out of libya tonight. a rebel spokesman says anti-government troops have now entered the capital. and cnn's senior correspondent matthew chance is live in tripoli. we spoke with you not long ago. what are you seeing and hearing now? >> reporter: the situation appears to have calmed a little since we last spoke, don. there's still sporadic outbursts of gunfire across the city that we can hear periodically, every few minutes or so. clearly the situation isn't as calm as the government authorities are telling us that it is. we've had a press conference within the last hour or so with the libyan government
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spokesperson. he says that a number of armed small odd numbers of armed gangs have infiltrated parts of the city and have been responsible for this violence. he said that the armed forces of libya loyal to colonel gadhafi, of course, had confronted them, and the situation had now been brought under control. that statement is intentioned with the kind of scenes, the kind of sounds we're hearing outside this hotel, in tripoli, around the libyan capital. still, as i say, these sporadic bursts of gunfire. clearly the situation isn't as stable as the government here, the authorities are attempting to make out. don? >> so matthew, i want you to take a look at this video from yesterday. you see huge explosions and gunfire going off there in likz. where's moammar gadhafi now? any signs he may be leaving libya? >> reporter: well, the short answer is we don't know where he is, but certainly there's a lot
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of rumors that the libyan government in tripoli has reached out to countries like tunisia, like algeria, like egypt and requested them for some safe haven for colonel gadhafi's family, possibly for colonel gadhafi himself. there's speculation he may be heading to south america, to south africa. this is just speculation. it is just rumor. as far as the government officials that we've had access to are concerned, they're categorically denying any suggestion that colonel gadhafi or his family are going to be leaving tripoli. indeed, publicly the libyan leader has said that he intends to stay in the capital, he intends to fight any rebel advance on the capital. and he's calling on loyalists in tripoli to do the same. that doesn't mean that behind the scenes there aren't negotiations underway, it's justice that they're not in the public arena and we don't know about them officially yesterday. >> we were taking a close look at cnn at libyan state-run
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television because we get a lot of our information from that. there's a talk show going on now. earlier, there was something else, it didn't have anything to do with the unrest that's going on. we sold you about mussa ibrahim. he's talking about the rebels, saying their lies have reached another level of hysteria, idiocy and stupidity. do not let the crusaders lie to you. basically, going on television and giving exactly -- what appears to be the opposite of the information that people there who live there are reporting and that some of the reporters are reporting back to us as well. >> reporter: yes. now i tong some extent both sides are guilty of,age rating the various situations on their side. we've had this throughout the conflict libya throughout the crisis. one side says one thing, one says something opposed to what the other side says. the truth usually lies somewhere
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between. what we've heard from ibrahim this evening is again empirical denial of all of these rebel advances. they're not acknowledging that the rebels are in control of the crucial strategic town west of tripoli. they're saying that there's a chance they could reopen that road. they're saying they're the ones that control the road into tripoli, and they've chosen to close it. you do get this feeling when you hear the reports and speak to residents. we've had contact by telephone with independent residents telling us about the situation, as well. you get the sense to this extent the authorities in tripoli are in denial or at least are trying to represent a calm, stable image of their capital to the local media and outside world. >> matthew, listen, we don't want -- we want to let you go. we're awaiting our next report.
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we'll get sarah up in a minute. i want to show libyan state-run television. they're showing patriotic scenes going on. you see celebrations they are showing on the street. we don't know if the pictures are live or where the pictures are coming from. those are the live pictures coming from libyan state-run television. on the right, you see images of moammar gadhafi. you see the army there. to the left, you see people who are supporters of moammar gadhafi in the street. listen, as we continue on, this is what mussa ibrahim said just moments ago. management we, he said, "trip she in total control. we're this total control here." i want to reiterate, you said both sides are exaggerating here and the truth is somewhere in the middle. >> reporter: exactly. as we have this press conference, we weren't permitted to go to the press conference. the foreign media the last week or so have been excluded from government briefings. it's been the local libya media. as we watched on the television
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in hotel, all we can do, and he said the situation has been brought under control -- outside now you can hear the gunshots reverberating, crackling through the streets of tripoli. all over the city. there are still gunshots being fired. it's not as intense as it was an hour or two ago. even as i speak to you now, i can hear gunshots being fired out in the streets, outside of the hotel, in the center of tripoli. clearly the situation is still very volatile. clearly there are still some, you know, armed groups, some opposition figures, some rebels. whatever you want to call them. very active, as you can hear, in the streets of tripoli. >> all right. matthew chance in tripoli. thank you. we'll go to zawiya, and sarah with the rebels. what's the situation where you are? what are you seeing and hearing? >> reporter: what we're hearing is a lot of gunfire. but the gunfire is celebratory gunfire. people believe that the uprising
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has begun in tripoli, and they want to come and fight there. they are very excited that they were able to take full control of the city of zawiya. the reason they're so excited about taking control of the city, it's only just 30 miles from tripoli. 30 miles west of tripoli, about a 40-minute drive there. and it houses a large oil refinery. one of the last functioning refineries in the entire country. they gotten control of that, as well, and also cut off a main supply route to tripoli. now they are hoping to get on that coastal road and head straight to tripoli. but they do have something in their way. they were able to push gadhafi forces back. now gadhafi forces have retreated toward tripoli. they will have to pass through those tanks and that army before they can get into the city, and that's something they'll have to contend with. we heard plenty of artillery fire today coming into the city from about 17 kilometer outside the city. don? >> and you talk it that oil
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supplier. important because -- >> reporter: very important because right now tripoli's fuel supply is extremely scarce. you know, when people get in situations where it's difficult to find fuel, it's difficult to find cooking oil, food, things become uneasy, i guess you could say. people who are unhappy with the regime may feel suddenly, hey, it looks like he's being squeezed. but the rebels hoping this people will revolt. they're hoping there's a lot more support for the opposition than for the gadhafi regime. we need to be careful in saying because the rebels hope that that doesn't necessarily make it true. there's plenty of support in the capital for gadhafi. that's where everyone believes, don, that gadhafi has the most firepower right there, concentrated in the city. a lot of people predicting that this could be a very bloody battle of urban warfare there. >> we're not going to go far from the story.
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sara in zawiya, matthew chance, thank you. jobs are just one of the reasons the congressional black caucus says it has a bone to pick with obama. congresswoman maxine waters leading the charge. she will join me live to explain why there's growing frustration with the president among some of his strongest supporters. who's. [ male announcer ] with interactive learning solutions from dell, mrs. davis can make every student feel like her only student. dell. the power to do more. while i took refuge from the pollen that made me sneeze. but with 24-hour zyrtec®, i get prescription strength relief from my worst allergy symptoms. so lily and i are back on the road again. with zyrtec® i can love the air®.
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because, face it, he hasn't gotten a lot of criticism from high-profile african-americans. but at a jobs fair this week sponsored by the congressional black caucus, congresswoman waters said there's growing frustration with the president among members of tfof the black caucus and her audience seemed to share the frustration. take a listen. >> we don't put pressure on the president because we all love the president. we love the president. [ crowd noise ] >> you're very proud -- >> we do -- >> you're very proud to have a black man. [ applause ] >> when you tell us it's all right and you unleash us and you tell us you're ready for us to have this conversation, we're ready to have the conversation. >> okay, congresswoman, she joins us now from los angeles. >> yes. >> congresswoman maxine waters. congresswoman, you know when you say thing like that you are going to stir up the pot -- >> yes, yes. >> and are you going to get
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criticized. what is going on? >> yes. well, you know, the news constantly reporting the high rate of unemployment in this country, but especially among african-americans. that 16% that really calculates into 30%, 40%, 50%, and some of our worst off areas, the growing homelessness in places like los angeles, the young people who cannot find jobs, and mothers who have worked hard and father to send their kids to college and they come back, can't find a job. parents asking us, what's going on? i worked hard to send this kid to college. he can't get a job. then, of course, the protracted debate on the debt ceiling where we got our clocks cleaned and the republicans walked away with everything. and we have no new revenue in this picture at all. >> okay, congresswoman. >> yes, it calculates to frustration. >> let's stockton one thing at a time. >> yes.
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>> we're going to talk about leadership in a second. i want to talk now -- >> yes. >> do you think, are you saying that a black president is not doing enough as president to help black people? >> no, i'm not saying that. this argument, this decision that i discussed with constituents in detroit to tell us whether or not they wanted us to have is basically that, a discussion. what is going on, why is it the unemployment is so persistent in the black community? what is congress doing about it? what is the white house doing about it? it's a discussion i have opened up. >> what would you like him to do? >> do you know what i was inspired by? the president went on a trip to three states in this country. he went to iowa. he went to iowa where the unemployment is 6.2% to 6.7%, and he took about $510 million to help with the development of
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biofuels infuse those dollars into the community and increase lending so that it would help jobs. we like that. and we want the same kind of thing in the urban community. we've been talking about targeted efforts. that's when he did when he went to iowa. that's what i'd like to see in urban communities. that's one example. of course, he's going to roll out with a big jobs proposal in september. we have some ideas. we support an infrastructure bank and on and on and on. so that's what i'm talking about. >> on the day you made your comments, there was an executive order that came out the same day promising to promote diversity in america. why now? do you think that was in response to your comment? because when i talked with people -- >> i don't know. >> when i talk to people, they say this was probably written three months ago. why would it commute out on this day? are they responding to maxine waters? >> not i don't. i don't even know what it says, and i don't know what it means. i'll be happy to take a look at it, and try and see what that
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mea means. we work on these things all the time to try to equal the playing field. i've increased diversity in all of our financial services agencies. when i worked on the conference committee with the dodd frank bill, i created the offices of minority and women inclusion. those are the kind of things we work on all the time. i don't know what this executive order is, but i would welcome it if it opens up opportunities. >> okay. do you think the president is doing enough to promote diversity in america? >> i think the president is doing what he can, and the blackhawks needs to help him more. we need to show that not only is it important to our communities, we need to show him that we've got tremendous support for doing this. he'll as well a lot of support -- he'll have a lot of support the more he does. we need to be in this discussion and effort. >> on this talk here, what do you think of his leadership? has he been a good leader? can he be a better leader in some areas? if so, where would you like to see it? >> i think the president has worked hard, and he's doing the
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best that he possibly can do. i think the tea party has made it more difficult. i think the president's style is really to work and get along, to try and get people to come together. >> has that been effective, congresswoman? >> it's time to fight. it's time to fight. it's time to look him in the eye, stare them down, not give in, and go for it. it's time to go for a big idea with a big fight behind it. and i think he'll have a lot of support for it. >> congresswoman maxine waters, thank you very much. >> you're so welcome. >> all right. you know, not everyone believes publicly criticizing the president is the best way. up next, we'll sit down with someone who says this may not be the best approach, and i know this topic is generating lots of interest on social media. make sure you connect with me on twitter, on facebook, on cnn.com/don. i'm reading your tweets and comments now. ♪
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that's why they serve their customers' needs, not shareholder profits. because as a mutual, nationwide doesn't report to wall street, they report to their customers. and that's just one more reason why the earnhardt family has trusted nationwide for more than 30 years. nationwide is on your side. we just heard from congresswoman water, key player in the congressional black caucus. let's talk more now with goldie taylor, an opinion columnist for the grio.com and managing editor of the goldie taylor project. good to see you, goldie. >> good to see you, don. good to see you. >> good to see you. you hear the interview with the congresswoman. right? >> i did. >> and she said -- when i said do you think -- what do you think of the president's leadership, and she said, "i think it's time to fight." which means it's time for him to fight. she's -- i think she's saying he
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needs to change his strategy and stop trying to work with everybody and have everybody like him. he just needs to be a fighter now. >> i think there are a lot of people who are coming from that quarter that are frankly frustrated with the kind of leadership that's come out of the white house. the difference here -- >> but listen, when you say the kind of leadership that's come out -- what do you mean? what do you mean by that? >> president obama told us when he was running that he was going to be a conciliatory president. that he was going to meet people halfway. meet people at their point of need. that he was going to work this a bipartisan way. he was right about that. >> that was then. >> that was then. but the reality is, this process that's in, and you get, you know, 20 new freshmen in the republican party who say they're not willing to work with this president on anything. and you've got an opposition who is committed to his failure. so at some point, you have to change your strategy and say these people aren't about working for the good of the country. this is about politics. >> okay. i started to tell you this morning, i'm at brunch, two old friends. and they live in chicago, not far from president obama. and they -- they could not
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disagree more with his leadership now. and they -- one said, we have to give him a chance. the husband said, oh, come on, honey. stop making excuses. these are conversations that african-americans usually have around the dinner table, not in public. should african-americans be publicly criticizing the president? >> your grandmother and mine, they didn't like back fence talk. they didn't like putting our dirty laundry in the street. they didn't like us publicly criticizing one another out in the public square where other communities could see it. that is at play here with this president. and i got to tell you, some of these black elected officials, they are losing, frankly, access to this white house because they are being publicly critical. if you have someone like maxine waters, there are 12 african-american women serving in the united states congress between the senate and the house of representatives. if out of 12, out of 535 -- and she is the most senior ranking african-american woman serving -- if she doesn't have a direct line to this president, we are in trouble. >> wow.
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you said a lot there. i got a tweet from spike lee. he was at an event with president obama. he said, "in a hella quick kfrgds with president obama, i told him he will continue to have my support, and he needs to take off the kid gloves." there's a growing sentiment of that among african-americans. >> if you look at the unemployment rate, for instance, among all americans, somewhere around 9.1, 9.2%, then you look at double that for african-americans, and if you look for african-american men in detroit, atlanta, and it's up to nearly 40% and 45%, he's feeling the heat. to focus on urban issues, on african-american issues, i think that that's right for america. and i think this president has to do. you wrote a column saying basically would you hold him to a different standard if he was white. i think we should hold every president to the same standard. >> culturally, african-americans don't do that. we are a circle the wagons kind of community. if someone is being attacked
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from the outside, even if we see the flaw, he ain't perfect, but he's ours. >> a criticism isn't always an attack. i've always been told even from my own black people, constructive criticism is good for you. you need that, boy. >> i got to wish and hope that our community advances in the way that constructive criticism can be taken. however, we're not there yet. still crabs in a barrel, people will say. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, don. >> goldie taylor, good stuff. we appreciate it. this is the kind of conversation we like to have here. thank you. really appreciate it. coming up, the so-called west memphis three are enjoying their first full day of freedom. they've been locked up for the brutal killings of three cub scouts. coming up, how they got out of prison. first, getting kids interested in writing and reading, it's a challenge for parents and teachers. but a san francisco project useds a variety of techniques to spark interest. cnn education contributor steve perry visits in tonight's "perry's principles." >> reporter: 826 national is a
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lit ranking organization with eight chapters across the country. today we're at the original location, san francisco, called 826 valencia. here, kids get tutoring, attend creative writing workshops, and watch their own books get published. >> ahoy, maty, what you doing there? >> there you go! >> reporter: did i mention it's housed in a pirate supply store? they're writing a story for a grumpy pirate name police department blue. >> we promised them that we could write a good story. can we try? >> it better be a good story. it better be exciting and suspenseful. >> reporter: it offers one-on-one tutoring in any subject students need help with. host field trips and has a special focus on working with students whose parents don't speak english at home. but today, they're all about creative writing. >> i t could be a crocodile mixed -- >> you are helping kids in this community use writing to do what? >> it all begins with writing.
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and so you have to build from that sort of basis. so the students that we work with, if their writing is great, it follows everything from english to math to science. >> how much are they paying? >> it's all free. >> wow. how do you pay for that? >> a lot of fundraising. a lot of the good of the community. woe work with foundations, corporations. >> reporter: 826 val enya has nearly 1,700 active volunteers from all types of careers. >> you think that's going to be a good story so far? >> i think there's a lot of potential this. i like what i'm hearing so far. >> excellent. all right. let's get back to work. >> reporter: steve perry, san francisco. [ kimberly ] when i was 19, i found myself alone with two children and no way to support them. people told me i wasn't going to do anything. and i just decided i have more to offer than that. i put myself through nursing school, and then i decided to go get a doctorate degree. university of phoenix gave me the knowledge
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breaking news on cnn. this is lanan state-run television -- libyan state-run television. according to them, this is moammar gadhafi. that's what they're saying. they're broadcasting images of moammar gadhafi speaking on the left. again, this is libyan state-run television, they're in control of it. that's what they're saying. they're saying it's live. but we cannot confirm -- there was a press conference earlier in tripoli. by mussa ibrahim, a spokesperson for the government, that said everything was in control, they were in control of tripoli. and report of advances on the capital city they said were greatly exaggerated.
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libyan state-run television, again, broadcasting image purportedly of moammar gadhafi now, and there were questions about whether he was still in libya, whether he had fled, but if you believe the images on libyan state-run television, he's still there. rebels appear, though, to be one step closer to tripoli. opposition fighters pushed the government forces outside the gates of zawiya today. artillery martyrs can still be -- mortars can still be heard inside the city. sara seidner is with us from zawiya. matthew chance is in tripoli. moammar gadhafi is reportedly telling his supporters that they have gotten rid of the traitorous rebels, that's what we're hearing on libyan state-run television. we're not going to go far from the story. the full resources of cnn on top of it, we have our entire crew
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there in libya, reporters, correspondents there, producers, cameras on the ground, as well. and we're checking on it back here in the u.s. so stand by for more information on libya. here we go now. here in the united states, rain is pummelling the midwest with the chicago and the detroit areas really feeling the brunt of it. our meteorologist, jacqui jeras, is here to tell us about the severe systems that are going through. it looked pretty ominous over the skies of chicago. the air show -- i lived in chicago for a number of years. it's amazing to see. they come right by the buildings. they had to be delayed, right? >> yeah, they did. it was able to go on. they got the people out of the way, told them where to go to stay safe. those storms have moved on. we've got another storm we need to worry about. this is braengeaking news for y guys. we have a new tropical storm. this is tropical storm irene. we've been telling you about it for a couple of days. this tropical wave than business in the open waters of the atlantic, it has a chance to become a powerful storm. it has a chance to have some type of an effect on the u.s.
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well, here's what we know now. this is tropical storm irene. maximum winds, 50 miles per hour. the hurricane hunters have been flying in this thing the last couple of hours. this on google earth is the track that they were taking, and you can see the criss-cross pattern through the center of that storm. and they did find a closed circulation which means wind spun all the way around counterclockwise and they found stronger winds to support calling it a tropical storm even. we just skipped tropical depression status altogether. tropical storm warnings now have been issued for puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. this is the forecast track that we're talking about, where we're expecting it to go. it should be arriving in the virgin islands already by tomorrow afternoon. heading toward puerto rico tomorrow night and into monday. and then moving through hispaniola and we'll have to watch what happens after that. this storm will likely intensify, it's likely going to become the first hurricane of the season. what about the u.s.? the margin of error here i want
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to tell you is as much as 200 miles. so it's too early to tell what kind of an impact it's going to have on the u.s. we could see still an atlantic coast, we could see a gulf of mexico storm. but everybody who lives in the southeast u.s. needs to pay close attention to irene. next weekend, don, you and i might be talking about the storm that hit parts of the southeast late next week. we're talking thursday-friday maybe. >> i was looking at the monitor as you drew that. and i had to say new orleans -- we don't know? i'm sure they paying close watch. we don't know where it's going to go. >> the models are showing quite uniform consensus. this would more than likely not go that way, but it's too early to say for sure. >> i always say, of course, that's the first thing that comes to us when we think of the gulf coast because of katrina. thank you. >> sure. >> appreciate it. just ahead here on cnn, so much for what was dubbed a friendship march between the georgetown -- match between the georgetown hoyas and chinese protest team in beijing. a sideline scuffle turned into a full-court chaos.
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it's supposed to be a goodwill trip, but goodwill was in short supply.
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[ crowd noise ] >> that, my friends, is georgetown university's basketball team brawling with a pro-team in china. you may have seen this already, but what you didn't see was an earlier incident involving u.s. reporter. they got roughed up by chinese security right down the hall from where vice president joe biden was speaking with china's vice president. maureen o connor, state ff writer for gawker.com, the game was bad enough, what happened to those covering biden? >> reporter: on biden's first full day in china he was having bilateral talks with the vice president of china. beforehand, the reporters were supposed to be allowed to listen to each give remarks. so she gave his remarks, and then biden was giving his. part way through, chinese press aides started shoving reporters out the door, chinese and international reporters. apparently the reporter didn't want to leave vice president bide anne -- vice president
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biden's staff didn't want reporters to leave. the chinese officials locked arms and started shoving them out the door. an "los angeles times" reporters described it as fisticuffs emerging. this is something that now occasionally the chinese government is notoriously strict about the amount of access they allow the press. they have been known to cut off events early if they, you know, don't like the way something is going or think there's too much access. >> yeah. >> so it escalated to physical proportions, it's unusual. >> i thought it was very interesting that all this was going on while down the hall the vice president was talking about more open not and candor. but let's move on and talk more politics here. i was talking about rick perry. he is -- you could say a colorful character. all the rage this week. so fellow republican presidential hopeful john huntsman has taken twitter to get his message out. perry made headlines when he said he didn't believe in global warming, so huntsman fired back, he fired back and said, "to be clear," he wrote, "i believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. call me crazy." maureen, huntsman is going on another network tomorrow, we're
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hearing he's going to criticize perry directly. >> reporter: huntsman is sort of posing himself as like the anti-tea party candidate right now. which is a bold move in a year when tea party fervor is really high. people think that the -- winning the gop nomination is going to require that. i would wonder if huntsman has a bit of a longer game on his -- sort of on his agenda that right now he's posing himself to be the one person that rejects the culture wars. and that he's becoming almost more progressive over the years. when he was elected to be utah's governor in 2004, he didn't support gay civil unions. at the end of his term he said he does. now he's moving for a more progressive republican party. not a winning strategy now, although it could be. it's risky now. i wonder if maybe he's got a longer game that he's holding on to now. >> let's talk about this, about rick perry because as i said, he's colorful. a lot of people are saying thank goodness he's in the game. and i have to be honest, among a number of bland republican candidates. he's definitely upped the ante
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when it comes to personality. and saying things that a lot of people are afraid to say. it's really catching fire, in some quarters. you guys have been write being it, a lot of bloggers are glad that he's in this and are having a good time with rick perry. >> you know, he's an interesting guy. one thing fascinate being rick perry it s that he never apologizes at all for the degree to which he's very tied to the evangelical movement. he leads prayer meetings. he doesn't, you know -- usually when you hear people talk about teaching intelligent design and evolution, use the phrase intelligent design. he just straight up says we teach creationism, and that's what i believe. so there's a sort of almost disarming the degree to which he's willing to engage the culture wars. and just almost straight out of central casting for this very, you know, charismatic, southern guy who makes no apologies for the degree to which he's going to go straight to his christian base. >> it does seem like a movie. there was a movie with -- i forget who. someone played george w. bush, a lot like the character.
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not "wag the dog." i forget the name. i'm sure tell come to me during the break. always a pleasure. thank you. >> reporter: thank you, don. next up, crooks can steal you blind. simply by organizing a flash mob on twitter. [ male announcer ] with integrated healthcare solutions from dell, every file is where dr. ling needs it. now she can spend more time with patients and less time on paperwork. dell. the power to do more. it's pro-cool technology releases armies of snowmen masseuse, who cuddle up with your soreness and give out polar bear hugs. technology. [ male announcer ] new bengay cold therapy. the same technology used by physical therapists. go to bengay.com for a 5-dollar coupon. in one place. ♪
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a disturbing trend in social media. flab mob. nearly -- flash mob. nearly 30 people alerted on their cell phones turned up in germantown, maryland. they fled with candy and snacks before police arrived. a few weeks later, a nearly identical scene at a convenience store in washington. this time, a pack of girls. >> girls? are you sure? that's unbelievable. i'm -- i don't know. i'm speechless. i have nothing else to say. i can't believe there's ten girls going around robbing people. >> all right. let's bring in tech experts dry an tong, elk editor for cnet.com. it appears to be troubling. these aren't the only cities. philadelphia's having problems, other cities. is this a new trend? >> it is starting to become a new trend because twitter and social media networks, they allow people to organize on
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their own. can start as a small bubble and get bigger and bigger. it was found out later that on ins that you talked about -- the incidences that you talked about was thrown to social media, it wasn't necessarily the case. a lot of these organized when they were locally near each other. maybe they i.m.'d friends to join in. blaming social networking, i think, sometimes feels like a kneejerk reaction. it's one of those hot things and you can use it as a tool. it may not necessarily really have been the main culprit of this. >> okay. all right. can twitter or facebook, however they're getting this, can they do anything to block this kind of activity? >> well, i think when you start talking about blocking forms of communication and, you know, arguably violating first amendment rights that we have, freedom of speech and that's one of the -- obviously one of the platforms that our democracy is based off of, that gets into shaky ground when you talk about things like that. i think what's more important is law enforcement officials and agencies have to use the
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internet and social networking as tools where they can put people on the ground to listen to what's going on. by the time you see it on twitter, it's at the second, third stage. it's already elevated. although budgets are tight, you've got to put people that are close to it that can figure out where these start first. >> i know you're not a police officer or attorney -- >> i'm not. >> do you think we need laws about using social media for criminal activity? or is that already -- is it covered under the laws we have now? >> i think you're starting to see because of digital communication, a lot of things that we're used to are now gray in the digital space. you know, tracking people's movement and whereabouts for commune kagds patterns on -- communication patterns on line and through the computer. this is evolving because it's an everyday thing. we've started to see new cases that show how gray technology and communications are getting. so i think it's one thing that we'll continue to develop because we just really -- this is a whole new world for us of how to deal with this legally. >> can you go through this next one really quickly? i have another thing i want to
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ask you about. there's another -- major change in mobile device market, in the mobile device market involving google, motorola, hewlett-packard, can you walk us through it real quick. >> yeah, we have two -- google acquired motorola mobility for $12.5 billion. this is a movement that people thought is google going to start making their own phone. really what it's come to is they're acquiring the patent portfolio of motorola, 17,000 patent to really protect them in the mobile space because a lot of times we have companies like apple and samsung and microsoft suing each other paubecause the say phones violate the patents. more than anything, that was moat strietd protect themselves in -- motivated to protect themselves inside legal battles. >> i can't talk with you right now, brian, because i'm on my -- my cell phone here. >> oh. on air? >> you know what i'm talking about, right? you know what i'm talking about. >> i know exactly what you're talking about. there's a pew research center survey that said 20-something kids or people, i don't want to call them kids, over 1/3 of them
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fake having cell phone conversations in public. now when you apply that to everyone of all ages, it gets around somewhere over 10% to 13%. is this indicative -- have you ever done this? >> i do it all the time. all the time. i do. i got to tell you what, you know where i learned it -- it's going to sound weird. it just sort of happened naturally one day. then i was watching an interview, larry king or something, she talked about it, paris hilton, saying that's how she fakes out reporter or people. she pretends she's on her cell phone. you know what -- >> you comparing yourself to paris hilton? >> i got to give it to you when it's good. who you are. if it's paris hilton, it's good. i like the tie, giving me competition. >> you know, try to style it up for you, man. >> bye, brian tong. see you next time. >> see you, king of twitter. >> don't hate. a tribute concert for michael jackson is dividing his famous family. ahead, a look at who's on what side. first, in our "making their mark" segment, a good samaritan
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comes to the rescue of a single working mother in pennsylvania who was left without a car. nicole grilly says her car was stolen and then destroyed in a crash last week. she didn't know what to do. she's already working two jobs. her son's birthday is this week. school is starting. and christmas isn't far away. well, she got another car thanks to a man who saw her story. >> oh, my god. i'm so thankful because i didn't think there was people out there like this. >> aww. aww. >> the good samaritan who didn't want to be identified says the car belonged to his 97-year-old mother who died last year and would be pleased it went to someone who really could use it.
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all right. so it has been a year since michael jackson died and tribute that planned for him is fueling some serious in-fighting among his loved ones. but first, jackson's dr. conrad murray goes on charge next month on a charge of involuntary
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manslaughter for his death. there is a new development about how his attorneys want the jury handled. cnn wire entertainment correspondent allan duke is here with the story. what's happening regarding the jury? >> well, dr. murray's lawyers yesterday filed a motion asking for jury sequestration, to put them up in a hotel, not let them see "nancy grace." they specifically called her out and her commentary during the casey anthony trial. >> that's a fancy jury. >> stay in the hotel, don't watch tv, don't read the internet. >> that's the trial. explain the michael jackson tribute and how it's conflicting with the cirque de soleil performance dedicated to him. >> it's been a big mess. jermaine jackson and randy jackson, they onned through twitter saying they don't like the timing of the october 8th show because it conflicts with the dr. murray trial. but, guess what, they not objected to the october 2nd timing of the launch of the
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cirque de soleil immortal tour, michael jackson show. >> it makes you wonder, like, can they get on one page with the michael jackson tributes? what in the world is going on here? >> something katherine jackson has to deal with. she came by and visited with me this week. i asked her that very question. and maybe we can hear part of her answer. >> okay. >> the trial is very important. and i can understand how michael -- how randy and jermaine feel. it's been two years. when these gentlemen came to me and talked about it, i thought it was a good idea. >> and, by the way, we see kather katherin, michael ease mom, your buddy joe jackson, who you had great interviews with, he called from vietnam to let me know that he's not involved in this tribute. not that he's got anything against it but the estate was
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implying that he was one of the originators of it. he said he's not. he's working on his happy land promotion, the big development in vietnam. >> i thank you for abiding by our policy that we had here. there's a wedding going on in hollywood. this is a free zone. >> i'm not involved. >> okay. >> right. >> appreciate it. >> thank you. straight ahead, meet the man who could be the next eddie murphy.ll ave a dream that one day on the red hills of georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. i have a dream today! [ male announcer ] chevrolet is honored to celebrate the unveiling of the washington, d.c., martin luther king jr. memorial. take your seat at the table on august 28th. ♪ let me make you smile ♪ let me do a few tricks
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