that's it for "360." thanks for watching. piers morgan tonight starts now. >> shock waves on the east coast. earthquakes and tremors for a 100 miles. >> the building rattled, i grabbed my coat and cell phone

and said let's get out of the building. >> rebels overrun gadhafi's compound. >> the main fight has been won and we have to start another fight. gather the people and run the country. >> who will run libya. >> 42 years have gone by. we missed out on so much. >> it's something we've all been dreaming of forever. and the sexual assault case that made headlines everywhere. and dominique strauss-khan is free. >> this case was treated as a time when it was not. >> and more of my accident throughive interview with jon huntsman, the only presidential candidate that can do this. [ speaking foreign language ] >> this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. an extraordinary day of news

around the world. in this country, an earthquake stuns millions up and down the east coast. and new york cell service, airports, and train travel disrupted. on the other side of the world, libya, rebels stormed gadhafi's compound. the question remains, who will rule the new libya? and my exclusive interview with the attorneys of dominique strauss-khan. they talk about my client and his family. and how he felt about what they call a nightmare. i start with wolf blitzer, covering the earthquake and the breaking news in libya. wolf. >> today's magnitude 5.8 quake hit about 88 miles southwest of washington, near the town of mineral, virginia. the second most powerful in virginia's history. i was here in washington, d.c. when the tremors struck this afternoon. the building started shaking a bui bit. most of the federal government

closed immediately, they closed many of the monuments right here in the nation's capital. we were evacuated from our building here in washington near c capitol hill. other areas felt the quake as well. if you go beyond washington, it was felt as far north as bath, maine, and as far south as the carolinas. in new york city, there were evacuations as well. very seriously, a power plant in virginia, the north anna plant, less than 20 miles from the epicenter of the quake, shut down after the first tremors out of an abundance of caution. we're told everything is okay over there some of the monday you nent monuments closed down. the national parks service closed down lincoln memorial, jefferson memorial, and the old post office tower, and most of the federal office buildings closed, they did reopen in the

afternoon, but a lot of workers went home early. some reports that the washington monument was leaning. it was found to be structurally sound. in new york at the news conference, the prosecutor in the dominique strauss-khan news conference, watch this. he sent reporters in the press conference running. the floor started shaking. people started getting nervous and cyrus vance, the prosecutor, ended the news conference quickly. he did note he was from seattle, so very familiar with earthquakes. the earthquake, a huge story. but the other big story, around the world tonight, of course, what's going on in libya history unfolding and we have breaking news right now of a defiant moammar gadhafi, vowing death or victory. he made that statement in a radio address to the libyan people just a little while ago. i want to go to sara sidner.

where are you, what's going on? >> reporter: we are in green square, that the rebels are now calling martyr square. they are here, driving around the square. it is 3:05 in the morning. they are screaming god is great. they are screaming die, die, mr. moammar gadhafi. they are screaming libya is free. what we saw about a half an hour ago, a crowd of about 200 people, blowing off every single -- anything that would basically fire. they were shooting into the air here. this square looked very differently 48 hours ago when the rebels first made it into the city. they were really in fight mode. they were looking around for snipers, now a very different scene. people just celebrating. not fighting, not thinking about fighting. literally just celebrating here in the middle of town. wolf. >> do they have any instinct or any hints at all where gadhafi may be hiding out?

do they think he's still in tripoli, someplace else in libya? do they believe he may have escaped the country? >> reporter: it depends on who you ask, wolf. the general consensus, they do believe he is somewhere underground. that loud bang was one of those anti aircraft machine guns that have blasted into the air. so it's just celebratory. but if you ask different people, they will say they believe -- that they believe he is underground somewhere. i know it's -- i know it's very difficult to hear me with all of these loud booms and bangs behind us. but rest assured, it is celebratory gunfire, but we have seen people here have a general concession, they believe that there are literally tunnels underground where he has some sort of a -- i can fell the

ground shaking there, is so much gunfire. unfortunately, because of our camera, i have to say this was not going on five minutes ago. they see the camera light and people go nuts. but in talking about moammar gadhafi, obviously he's still alive. people think he is still alive. people think his family and some of his close allies are with him underground. they don't believe he's out of tripoli, but they don't really know where he is. there are checkpoints all over the city. we have had to stop at about 20 checkpoints on the way in here. security very tight in the city, but, wolf, nobody really knows where he is. in hearing his address, i'll fight to the death. no one knows where he will take that fight to or if he's even capable of doing that at this point. >> sara, how do you know when it's celebratory or the real

thing? i got to tell you, a lot of viewers here in the united states and around the world are very nervous when they see you standing there and they hear all of those gunshots. >> reporter: yeah, them and my mother also, who is watching cnn's coverage. we get a general sense, because we can actually hear incoming fire, and a lot of times, what you will hear is outgoing fire and then suddenly, you'll literally hear bullets flying past you, when we get in a situation like that, we get out of dodge, but we know we've been in this square for about an hour now, and this has been the scene of massive, massive blasts, but we have direct eye contact where it's coming from. but it is celebratory tonight in green square. >> sara, you've done an amazing job for us. please be careful. we'll check back with you throughout the night into tomorrow.

sara sidner, reporting for us from tripoli. what a story that is. history unfolding in libya right now. piers, back to you. >> thanks, wolf. prince mali al sinousi, he is a member of the royal family, and he pledges to go back to rebuild the country. a remarkable day. what are your thoughts? >> my thoughts, i'm so grateful for this day. the end of tyranny, the end of brutal dictatorship, the beginning of a new unvirs, a new horizon for libya. and to come together as a nation to build, to live under rule of law a law. >> your family exiled in 1969. do you intend to go back yourself? >> absolutely. no question. i intend to go back and join my

countrymen, sisters and brothers and our children to build our country, and give it -- and give it all i've got, you know, our talent, our experience, our knowledge, to put it to use for the benefit of our country. >> and your family's ensign has been waved by the rebels. must have been a very proud moment for you all. what would you like to say to the rebels, if you got the chance? >> they are -- you are freedom fighters. you have really earned the world respect. you have -- you have shown how brave and courageous you are, and you put an end to a -- to repression, to tyranny and you have demonstrated that you can -- you can overcome all of the hurdles and obstacles ahead of us. i am looking forward to joining them to build our country. >> what would you like to see happen to gadhafi? >> i would like him really to get caught and be put on trial.

because a lot of libyans who suffered under gadhafi who he has killed, maimed, brutalized, they need to have closure. the only way is that it has to be done your honunder the rule . >> has this been the best day of your life? >> it's the beginning. it's a new beginning, like i am born again. i look forward to seeing my loved ones that i haven't seen over the years who have been deprived. i have not seen, and look forward to join them. and i will never let go again, ever. this freedom that we have, that we have earned it today, and i must say to the international community for believing in libya, in libyan people. >> prince al-senussi, a great day for you, your family and your country. >> thank you.

i appreciate it. >> no one has been able to look away from the dramatic pictures coming out of libya, including the white house. joining me is one of the president's team. an extraordinary day. history in the making. what has been your view from the white house? >> well, piers, it's really nice to be with you. thank you for the chance to be here. we've been watching developments with great interest. we've seen frankly over the course of the last three or four days, a tense of cohesion and coordination of the libyan elements. that's a good sign for the libyan people and for u.s. national security interests, so we watched with great interest and we're also obviously very pleased to see the developments unfolding as rapidly as they are. >> and it's very exciting and everyone is feeling very positive about this, but there is no sign of moammar gadhafi. any inkling where he may be?

or how they may be getting him away? >> we hear all sorts of rumors. we try to focus on facts. the facts are such we know that he is not in charge of tripoli. he does seem to be struggling to have command and control of his armed forces, so all of the indications are that as far as the facts go, that this is trending dramatically away from him, and as the president said two nights ago, the tipping point has come and the future is in the hands of libya's people. >> obviously there, are concerns about who now takes over, who exactly these rebels are. how confident is the white house in the rebels and in the future plan for libya without gadhafi? >> we've been very gratified to hear the very sound statements from the tnz's leadership, the opposition group's leadership,

including from one of their ministers, jalil is his name. the kind of inclusive government going forward. the fact that they see themselves as a transitional authority, not trying to take over control of the government as gadhafi did 42 years ago, if you can imagine that. >> playing devil's advocate, gadhafi wasn't always seen as the enemy by america or the west. how confident are you guys that in the short to mid term, the stability of the region will be stabilized and not, in fact, further endangered by instability of him actually going after so long? >> i think what we've seen, his ruthless ways did not bring stability, but a great deal of instability and obviously i don't need to remind you about the fact that prior to 9/11, he was the terrorist with more blood on his hands than any other terrorist, more american blood on his hands than any other terrorist. >> final question. when osama bin laden was killed

and his body was dispatched into the ocean, what is the preferred exit plan for colonel gadhafi, if you're in a position to make a choice? would you like to see him brought back to america to face a trial? or would his death be a preferred option? >> the important thing here, piers, we're not in a position to decide that that's squarely in the hands of the tnc. we're going to keep pressing them to do the right thing. coordinate, share intelligence and information as we can with them. but ultimately, this will be their decision. >> thank you very much for your time. >> good to be with you. thank you. >> when we come back, libya without gadhafi. who will rule after four decades of dictatorshidictatorship? and my exclusive with the attorneys who defended dominique strauss-khan for the sexual abuse headlines that made headlines everywhere and got sensationally dropped today. finally, the showdown [ everyone has been waiting for -- the dodge durango versus the ford explorer.

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there's this gun fire is becoming completely out of control with the gunfire, because people are just going

off. so much ammunition they have taken from the gadhafi regime. they feel like they can waste it now. feel like he is completely -- >> extraordinary footage there of moammar gadhafi's compound falling to libyan rebels. how will a post-gadhafi libya take shape? we are joined by a republican candidate for governor of montana and an author. this situation moving very fast by the hour, remarkable pictures there of the compound being seized. obviously, he's not there. what will happen now? what is the understand game for gadhafi personally? >> i think we talked about this yesterday. he's not the kind of guy who after 40 years will just simply hand himself over for a trial. i think that he would much rather see this go down with his so-called martyrdom than with anything else. really for the rebels

themselves, they have to get a hold of gadhafi and his sons as fast as possible. until they do so, they won't be able to put down the loyalists to the regime that still have a few pockets in tripoli under their control. >> you are in touch with the gadhafi family as recently as six weeks ago. what is your view and assessment of what exactly may be happening now? >> well, what the family wanted was some type of exit strategy and they didn't have that. because the international community really said we're going to put you on trial in the hague. we've confiscated all of your resources. there really wasn't any good exit strategy. >> the son that was on television last night, saif al-islam, very bombastic, absolutely determined to see this out. his father in his last statement said we're going nowhere. do you think this is all just bluff?

>> saif as you know have been living in london for many years. he came back when the problem started in libya, and he is not indicated in any way that he wants to go down with the regime. at least my experience and the information i have suggests that he wanted to make a deal that he wanted to find some way to get out of libya, where the family could be assured that it would have security, safety, and perhaps access to some of its resources. >> the obvious thing for libya now is how much faith can be put in this transitional council? because there is a lot of faith going into it. a lot of money going into it. on the plus side, a lot of people were skeptical about libyan rebels and they've done an extraordinary job. because of that, can we have more confidence that the ntc will do a good job here? >> the leadership of the ntc, of course, are primarily former gadhafi

abdul janch alil. we have the leaders that have put together a pretty good plan as to how to move forward, which includes getting a constitutional assembly together as fast as possible. writing a constitution, a pointing a provisional government. they want to have full elections in 20 months. that may seem a tall order, but it's not out of the realm of the possible. it's got the money necessary to sort of get back on track. the question is, can they create an equitable distribution of that money? particularly between tripoli and benghazi this is mostly a government based in benghazi and the people in tripoli don't have the best view of people in benghazi, they think of them as country bumpkins.

>> it will be fascinating to see how they square that off. thank you, both, very much. coming up next, the men who defended dominique strauss-khan. my exclusive interview with his attorneys. good year at chevy. they gave us a consumers digest best buy award. then they gave us an iihs top safety pick and you... well, you gave us your approval. so we thought, why not give a little back. the chevy model year wrap up. get in on our greatest model year yet. and now, very-well qualified lessees can get a low mileage lease on a chevy cruze ls for around $169 a month. our greatest model year yet is wrapping up.

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behavior, perhaps, but that is much different than a crime. and in this case was treated as a crime when it was not. >> that was dominique strauss-khan's attorney, right after a new york judge sensationally dropped the case against the imf chief. strauss-khan said these past two and a half months have been a nightmare for me and my family. i want to thank all of the family and friends in france and the in the united states who have believed in my innocence. i want to welcome benjamin bratman, and cocouncil, william w. taylor. bratman, i'll start with you. a great day for and you your team and mr. strauss-khan. were you confident this day would come? >> yes. i didn't think would come so quickly. i think both mr. taylor and i believed from the very beginning that dominique strauss-khan was innocent and if pushed to a

trial he would be acquitted, but to have the case dismissed after indictment on motion of the district attorney's office, i don't think we expected that. but we certainly appreciate that decision and believe it was the right thing to do. >> obviously, the sexual assault charges were dropped. does your client, for example, concede that he behaved inappropriately, if not in any criminal way, but inappropriately? >> i think what we said from the beginning, there was an act in that room that was consensual, not forcible and we'll leave it at that. i don't think it's appropriate to discuss exactly what happen. and i don't think there's any point to it. >> mr. taylor, obviously a huge up roar in france when your client was pretty well humiliated. went through this infamous perp walk which happenses in new york courts. drag tged the off an air france

flight. what is your thoughts about how the american justice system treats people before they are convicted? >> it's difficult to celebrate entirely on a day like today, when it wasn't three months ago when he was in rikers island in an orange jumpsuit. and we were at that point, persuaded that he was not guilty, we urged the d.a. not to take a heavy position on bail and not to force themselves into a rush to judgment in the case, but they chose to do otherwise, and as they said today, the post indictment investigation is what resulted in his liberation. so do i think the system worked? yes, but the system has its flaws and it goes to show that anyone, whether he's rich or poor or french or american, can lose his liberty on the word of someone which is not true. the man did not commit a crime, and today the -- the d.a. stood

up in court and acknowledged that. >> mr. bratman, let me play you a clip from abc's robin roberts who spoke to supposedly nafissatou diallo. >> he came to me and grabbed my breasts. no, you don't have to be sorry. i said -- stop. i don't want to lose my job. and he pushed me in to the bedroom and he closed the door, locked. >> and i suppose the obvious question really is your client would have been watching that interview somewhere, possibly with his wife. pretty degrading testimony. a lot of which obviously today lies in tatters. but how -- how is this manifested itself of their relationship? your client and his wife? >> i said outside court and i'll repeat it again, that unless you

yourself have been accused falsely of a serious crime that you did not commit, i think it's impossible to really understand the full measure of relief that dominique strauss-khan and anne sinclair felt today. it's just a horrific nightmare that thank god has now gone away. but these two remarkable individuals have i think impressed all of us who worked on this case with the grace, with the way they treated all of us with kindness and courtesy, and there was never any acrimony that i witnessed between them or between and among any of the people who worked on this case. i think there is an understanding that he did not commit a crime, that the objective was to resolve the criminal case, and the relationship between them, from what i've seen is an interesting relationship. they are both charming, interesting, brilliant, remarkable people who i've come to have a great deal of affection and respect for. is he embarrassed?

yes. he was publicly humiliated. he has paid a heavy price already. but he is now out of the clutches of the criminal justice system and that is a relief that i think no one can fully appreciate, unless they've actually been in the clutches of that system. >> i'd like to add that one of the things that persuaded the prosecutors to dismiss the case was the skill with which this alleged victim was able to describe acts of violence which had been perpetrated on her by others and then turned out to be absolutely false, so the fact that she gives something like an academy-award performance on television is exactly the problem. she is an accomplished actress, persuaded many people that things have happened to her that turn out to be absolutely false. >> hold on to that thought, gentlemen. i want to talk about the accusations against dominique

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and the attorneys of dominique strauss-khan, william w. taylor and benjamin brafman. how does your client feel about the way the media treated him? particularly, there were headlines in some of the daily tabloids. le perv. >> i think the media is partially at fault in this rush to judgment that mr. taylor spoke about earlier. i think the media banned the presumption of innocence and assumed he was guilty. i have often seen this in case where is a powerful, well-known celebrity is in the crosshairs. they don't get the same treatment as john q. public.

people believe celebrities get a better brand of justice. i don't think they do. he has a good sense of humor, shrugged it off. recognized when you are as important a man and well known as he is, that the media is going to take their shots. i was more offended by it many ways, because i see the just t outrageous rush to judgment where you call someone essentially a criminal before they actually had their day in court. >> mr. taylor, how would you describe dominique strauss-khan's move aftod afterf this? >> he is certainly happy. he also, as has been said, quite a philosophical gentleman and a student of the world. he understand fate and he is not bitter, in the sense that one might expect him to be. but at the same time, he does

not think that he was treated very well by the system which hauled him off an airplane and put him in rikers island on the world of a woman who turns out to be a liar and forced to live in a situation that cost him and his wife hundreds of thousands of dollars in order not to be in jail. >> he had the nickname back in france ofseducer. do you think he'll face further actions back home? particularly against tristan benault filed suit? are you worried about these cases progressing against him? >> i think i had turn to my partner, bill taim taylor, who dealt with those issues

primarily. >> we're not representing him in france. but i have been in close touch with the lawyers in paris who are representing him and i know something about the allegations. they are no more worthy of credit than are the ones which are here, and we fully expect this case will be treated essentially the same way. no merit in the allegation that he forced himself on this young woman and the fact that she comes forward eight years after the alleged fact is the first question that anybody asks about. >> i suppose a question many viewers will be wondering, does mr. strauss-khan, despite the fact that he's walked free today and the charges appear to have been trumped up against him, clearly his behavior wasn't perfect. does he have a sense of regret personally about his actions? >> i think what we don't do in the united states of america is

prosecute people criminally for behavior that someone else might find to be either inappropriate or offensive. we have laws. if you violate the law, you get prosecuted. do i think he is proud of this incident? no. do i think he regrets this incident? i think he regrets this incident with all of his heart. and at the end of the day, is he a perfect individual? no. but i don't think i've ever met anybody who is perfect. so at the end of the day, on balance, he's a pretty impressive individual despite the flaws that he may -- he may have. >> mr. taylor, you've known him a long time. you've worked with him a long time. he was, until this incident, tipped to be potentially the next president of france. what are his aspirations now politically? does he want to get back in the fray? >> i don't think he's had an opportunity to think that through. until today, we weren't able to advice him he was free to move about, or certainly not free to

move about to france nor any confidence of what his schedule was likely to be. i'm sure he and his family and his advisers will talk about his options, where they will go, when they will go, and that's a wonderful development for this family to be able to do, having been restricted to new york for such a long time. >> how expensive has this all been for him? in relocating to new york and the legal fees. what is the financial costs? >> the financial cost has been enormous. and there is no way to get that back. >> and obviously, he's free to go. and he's going back to france. i would like to ask both of you, because you're both americans, what do you think the american legal system, and the media as well, can learn from this? it's been a hell of a mess in terms of the way this case has been played out. >> let me say initially, that i

think all of us learned something from this, and hopefully the world and the public does as well. one thing you need to keep in mind, unlike the medical system or the medical profession, we don't have blood tests and mris and x-rays. we work off instinct, evidence we rely on. our system is not perfect. in this case, it was flawed at the outset. a man who was innocent sat in jail and was restricted on high bail. it didn't work perfectly. the one thick i'd like the world to recognize is it ultimately did work. what happened today was extraordinary. it was not powerful lawyers winning a trial. what happened today was a district attorney of new york county standing up and saying, we do not have faith in this case, so we're going to move to dismiss it. to the extent that there was some misstep at the beginning, i give cy vance a lot of credit to having the gus to do this.

i compare this to the duke lacrosse case. i hope america is not viewed as a bad place because of this case. at the end of the day, we're not perfect, but we're a lot better than most other countries. >> mr. taylor, i mean, i've got to put this to you. the attorneys of dr. kent thompson said the hospital examination showed clear evidence of rape. what is your reaction to that specific claim? >> it's absolutely false. the hospital records showed no evidence of trauma. and, indeed, if you read the hospital record carefully it shows that she did not complain of pain, nor did she have any bruising or scarring on her body, nor did the alleged accuser's body have any scarring. if you ask me what i learned from this case, if you have a big problem in new york city,

you should call ben brafman, which is what i did. >> a lot of people would second that. another great notch on your victory belt, mr. brafman. what would your client's view be of his accuser today? >> i think we view her collectively evil or pathetic or both. this woman has been used by others. i'm not certain how many others were involved in using her in this episode. i'm not going to get into whether she's getting good advice or bad advice. at the end of the day, she lied. she imploded. we didn't cross-examine her. at the end of the day, we did not win this case in the courtroom. we did a great cross-examination. this witness imploded herself by lying. if you lie in a case like this, the only way the case ends is the way it ended today, if the

system works. in other countries, people lie maybe and get away it with it. here, ultimately, we win this case, because she's not going to survive a good cross-examination with as many lies as she put into the mix, but -- >> let me jump in there. given the fact that the case has collapsed today, what kind of chance does she have in any kind of civil case? because surely it can't not be factored in, that this has collapsed today? >> that's right. she doesn't have much, if any, chance in a civil case, the same difficulties, the same lies will come back to haunt her in a civil case as occurred in the criminal case. and we have not really worried about the civil case. >> thank you very much for joining me. >> thank you, sir. when we come back, the mandarin speaking, former rock and roller who wants to be your next president. more and very revealing stuff in

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way. opposition forces storming tripoli. and hours ago, launching attacks on cities outside of tripoli. and moussa anca ibrahim claimiy are going to turn libya into volcanos, lava, and fire. >> sara sidner. >> a tracer behind you. >> gunfire. tracers hitting the water tank and the area, so we've got to go. >> number of reporters joining us tonight. sara sidner in green square. arwa damon with the latest on the airport and matthew chance trapped in tripoli in his hotel. all ahead on "360."

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that very rare thing in the republican thing, a moderate. jon huntsman believes in global warming, is a moderate. and was once in a rock band. i'm joined by his extremely glamorous wife of 29 years, mary kay. when did you first meet him. >> careful. >> i met him in high school. i grew up in florida, he grew up in california. i was a sally girl in a restaurant, he was a dish washer, and i fell in love with a rock and roll guy. what can i say. >> did you think you were marrying the next freddy mercury. >> oh, yeah. >> he still has that in him today. he is probably the most colorful guy i know. rock and roll, motocross,

harley, he -- >> harley? you ride a harley? you ride harley-davidsons, wanted to be awe ro rock star. why should he be president? >> he's been there, done that, and taken a state to number one right there. i think that the confidence is there. and i think people would have a confidence, know we're in good hands from day one with jon at the helm. >> in simple terms, how would you get america back to work? what is your great master plan? >> the principles are the same, whether in utah or on a national basis. we've got to make ourselves a safe haven for the attraction of brain power and thing aregation of capital. one, we need tax reform. you can't have the second highest business tax in the developed world and expect to compete. i want to do what we did in

utah. you phase out deductions and loopholes and buy down the base. it's not a difficult thing to do. two, we have to get the regulatory monkey off our back. no predictability on the marketplace. capital isn't flowing and people aren't being hired. three, energy independence is the lowest of low-hanging fruit. t. boone pickens says 500,000 jobs over five years and i believe it. those are the three steps that i believe would be the most powerful immediate until getting the country going again. and the mark place would respond. >> one part of the whole debt ceiling debate i was surprised about involving you, because you're a pragmatic, sensible member of the republican party. not all of them are. it came the moment when we said you cut spending by $10, would you prepare to get $1 off in revenue. you voted against that. and i would have thought the pragmatist had thought that -- you are the compromise guy.

the guy that gets deals done. why would you get that done? >> i'm the guy that would lead out based on principles of what i've done. >> i've had the pleasure of meeting some of your family, your oldest daughter, and two adopted daughters. one from india, one from china. all delightful ladies. you had five children of your own and apt dodd two others. what was the thinking there? >> the thinking was we had a little more love to give. we lived in taiwan, ran into an orphanage where there were children waiting to have homes. >> two of your sons going into the navy. one wants to be a navy s.e.a.l. that carries with it as we know from recent events, serious danger, potentially and you could have a situation where your husband is the commander in chief, sending your sons into battle which may lead to, you know, a terrible event unfurling. are you prepared for that. >> i don't know if you're ever prepared. i would say that i'm proud. i'm proud that they have made a

decision to serve. i have many tears as a mother would have of the thought of what they could be doing, and those tears are tears of pride. i couldn't be more proud. each day i wake up and think we can do this. and, you know, there's a country out there that is divided right now. he's a consensus builder. he knows how to bring people together, he's a leader, and i think he's exactly what our country needs. >> he can't be doing too bad if a lady like mishuntsman, after 29 years, gives you a ringing endorsement. i want to ask you about the whole issue of the more mown faith aspect of your lives. i interviewed the romneys, and they were pretty strict mormons i would say. what i've read about you both, you're not as strict. where do you see the line drawn in terms of your adherence to the mormon faith? >> i have a deep belief in god.

i am very proud of my mormon heritage. mary kaye draws from an episcopalian background, you blend traditions and try to raise kids in a responsible fashion, and you come up with something that is kind of a hybrid model that, first and foremost, puts god at the center of your life. >> one of your daughters recently married in an episcopal church, which was, you know, i wouldn't say controversial, but raised a few eyebrows, and i would imagine some of your opponents could use that against you, as evidence that you're not proper mormons. what would you say to that? >> i'd say, you know, there are 13 million mormons around the world today. it's increasingly a very heterogenius bunch and we add to that diversity. i come from a long line of saloon keepers and proselytizers. rebel rousers in the bunch.

the mormon population is a lot more diverse and a lot more heterogenius, a lot more free thinking that people might give it credit for. >> are you the racier end of the mormon faith as to boring old mitt romney? >> you start out by calling me boring and call us racier at the end. i think i'll take that. >> made your point. >> a pleasure, governor. thank you very much. coming up, back to libya for more on tonight's breaking news. if something is simply the color of gold, is it really worth more? we don't think so. chase sapphire preferred is a card of a different color. unlike others, you get twice the points on travel, and twice the points on dining, and no foreign transaction fees. call now or apply at chasesapphire.com/preferred.

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