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are you trying to say i need to have a baby? >> i didn't even ask the question. >> okay. i always said i would have a baby at 30. >> i know you did. >> i'm 29. >> exactly. >> but i also said i was going to retire at 30. so i don't know. >> it could be a big year! >> who knows? i'm not retiring, i'll tell you that. >> can we expect the little patter of little beyonce' and and jay-zs. >> only god knows. >> would you ask him to tell me? >> and it turned out that i reckon beyonce' knew, too. you can hear the whole interview tomorrow my one-on-one with beyonce'. remarkable interview. for the hour that's all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a man who has said here has done enough lying for a brutal dictator. for weeks we've been showing you videos of syrian forces killing ordinary syrians and hearing first hand accounts of people
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being shot at. we've shown you photos, many photos of children being slaughtered in the streets by the assad regime or taken, tortured and killed their bodies mutilated almost beyond recognition. i know it's all difficult to look at but it is what's happening in syria. it is the truth. now, all the while, in spite of all these videos and all the evidence, members of that regime all the way up to the top, to bashar al assad, they've been telling us that what is tragically, brutally, murderously plain to see isn't what's happening at all or it isn't what it seems. the denial is systematic and staggering. but tonight for one member of the assad regime the denial is over. >> translator: i, the attorney general of hama, announce my resignation from my position in the state that is shadowed by assad and his gangs. >> adnan albakur videotaped rezzing nation surfacing on you tooubs. he says he can no longer stomach the brutal treatment of
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protesters in hama and refused to lie ant what he has seen. >> translator: i summarize the causes of my resignation by the following. one, the killing of the prisoners in the central prison of hama on sunday, july 31st 2011. their number is 72 prisoners of the peaceful demonstrators and political activists. they have been buried in mass graves. near the village of al haladea besides the military branch in hama. >> this is video from hama on the 31st, killings going on outside the prison walls as well. >> how many times have you seen this? protesters shot dead or wounded in the streets, and then those who try to rescue them get shot at as well. this is a video of mass graves near hama.
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it is by no means the only mass grave we've seen. this is one in dara where the uprising began. a family is buried in this one, we're told, and there are many more across syria. the former attorney general details the killing and mass burial of 72 prisoners and 420 others in hama. in his resignation tape he explicitly names 14 officials, military commanders and service members for their role in the slaughter of unarmed civilians. he also makes it perfectly clear that he was told to lie about what he saw. >> translator: i was asked to present a report declaring that these victims were killed by the hand of armed gangs. >> now, armed gangs. now, armed gangs, if that term sounds familiar to you it's because armed gangs are part of the official cover story which comes from the very top. just about every one of these officials, these slick-suited officials from the dictator, syria's dictator bashar al assad to the ambassador to the u.n. who we've spoken with on this
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program, all of them speak about the uprising as being from armed gangs. the uprising to students at damascus university. damascus university, he blamed it on outsiders, agitators, armed gangs of roving criminals. he was very, very specific, the dictator was. >> translator: what is their number? personally i was surprised by this number. i thought they were a couple of thousands in the past. the number in the beginning of this crisis was 64,400. imagine that number of wanted people in different legal cases whose sentencing ranges from couple month to execution. and they have escaped justice. >> he claims 64,400 members of armed gangs, terrorists, thugs eluding capture in a totalitarian police state. it's absurd on the face of it. for the first time that we know of, a party member and top law enforcement official has refused
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to tow that line, refused to lie anymore. faced with that defines the regime is fighting back. syrian state tv reporting he'd been kidnapped, forced at gunpoint to make a statement. then another tape surfaced >> translator: i am judge adnan bakkour. i resigned from my position in protest of the brutal practices of the regime against the peaceful protesters. and what the syrian tv has aired, that i have been kidnapped by armed groups, is untrue. i am now protected by the oppositions. and i am in good health. today is wednesday, august 31. the secret security tried to kidnap me today, but they failed to do so. and i will make live statements as soon as i leave syria soon. >> so tonight the assad regime can no longer lie with quite the same inpunity, confident that everyone is on the same page. as of tonight everyone is not on the same page.
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there is now a crack in the wall of lies. and there's new evidence tonight of the regime's brutality. amnesty international now reporting what it calls a significant escalation in the number of people who died in the hands of authorities. judging by some of the video we've seen including protestors beaten and stuffed in car trunks, you can see why. amnesty says that in a typical year five syrians die in custody. currently that figure is 88. 88 dead, and that's not for the entire year, either. 88 dead between april and mid august. that's the people they know about. a researcher saying "the accounts of torture we have received are horrific. we believe the syrian government to be systematically persecuting its own people on a vast scale". joining me now stanford university professor and -- what do you make of this apparent defection? >> i like the way you put it. i think it sums it up. there is a crack in the wall of lies. here is a man who is a man of
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the syrian state. and i listened to his tape. i listened to him speaking in arabic, clear prose, precision. the precision of an attorney general. he named names. he gave facts. he gave numbers. and we've been looking for defections. the opposition in syria has been waiting for defections. we now have one from within the inner circle of the regime. it is not easy. it's not minor league being the attorney general for hama. hama has always been if you will a contested city and difficult city for the regime. so to have a man whom was sent to ha ma to break with the regime is no small thing. >> anthony, you snuck into hama, reported from there earlier this summer. what is the situation? how do you think people there are reacting to this news? >> i think it's still unclear why he defected, how he defected and who helped him defect. but when you hear from his statements he's speaking as an hama resident. we have to remember this is the city that bears the trauma of
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what happened in 82 where at least 10,000 died and perhaps many more. as you listen to him speak, he's speaking as a resident there, as someone who remembers the crimes that were committed back in 1982, who understood what has happened since the uprising began. i think that's remarkable. i think we're going to welcome his statements obviously in hama. remarkably, in some ways as both of you all mentioned there's a crack in the regime. but we're also hearing stuff from him we hadn't heard before. this idea of mass graves of 10,000 or less. these are numbers that go beyond opposition what has transpired in the city the last couple of months. >> i had the syrian ambassador to the united nations on this program a couple weeks ago. he insists that they invite journalists in to syria, they're free to travel around, they can go wherever they want, talk to whomever they want without any interference. is that your experience there? >> that's ridiculous. visas are very scarce to go into syria. once they're granted you're under very specific restrictions
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what you can and can't do. that's what kind of motivated us to try to get in there a different way we wanted to find out what was going on in not only hama but hams as well. >> why does a regime like this just lie about things which are clearly, demonstrably as being untrue? the lie about journalists. i was there years ago and had a minder following my every move and that was in a time there wasn't an uprising. >> well, the question you ask really is asked about all regimes that manufacture truth. do the men of the regime, the people of the regime, do they really believe? >> i wounded that talk together ambassador. he's in a slick suit, clearly an intelligent guy. does he actually believe the lies that are coming out of his mouth? >> i think there comes a time when the dividing line between invention and if you will inventing things and really believing them really vanishes. these people, the men of the regime are stuck in this regime. they can't abandon it. they don't know how to get out
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of it. and i think we have to understand something now about syria today. the month of ramadan was a very, very difficult month for the people facing the regime. and the month ended, and we now still are in this cul de sac in syria and it still remains an irresist tabl force which is the people of syria, an immovable object which is this terrible regime. they haven't figured out how to push it over the edge. >> anthony, in this week's "new york times" magazine you wrote about the time you spent in syria. what do you come away wa with and what should people watching know about what's going on right now? >> i think there are a lot of people who still believe what the government is saying. i think there are two nair tifs out there. >> do you believe government officials believe it or syrian people? >> i think there's a lot of fear in syria still. i think among minorities and other sectors of the country there is fear that what's happening right now is an islamabad position that's going to imperil their status in the country. so i don't want to be dismissive
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of people that government is still having some support there. i think that is clear. but what struck me i think and what i tried to write about in the times magazine is that the opposition, the uprising are simply not going to give up. there's no way. they've passed the point of no return. and this is going to last i think probably until the fall of the government. how long that takes, what shape it takes, how it's brought about are still obviously very important questions. but it's clear to me that this uprising is not going to be repressed. >> fouad and anthony, i want to turn to libya and get your thoughts on it. today's syrian television aired what it called a message from muammar gadhafi. on it the voice declares libya's capital has been moved from tripoli to gadhafi's hometown sirte. it called on libyans to rise up against the west. >> translator: the imperialists will not be able to fight through a long war, and they will retreat day-by-day, and their resistance will diminish day-by-day.
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begin for a guerilla warfare and fight inside and be like a bee and sting and fly across libiate whole area. >> it would be comic if it weren't so tragic. he's practically telling libyans to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. somewhere tonight mohammad ali is probably throwing up. today is the 42nd anniversary of the coup that put gadhafi in power. what do you think that he is still able to make these speeches, get word out? >> preparing for this segment with you i listened both to the syrian attorney general from hama and of course to muammar gadhafi. i was shocked by gadhafi. i mean, it was another reminder of the cruelty of the man, of the illiteracy of the man. i had never really focused on how ignorant he is and how underett kated gadhafi is. it was almost like a werewolf baying at the moon and calling on people to join him in a
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revolution against nato and revolution against cologne yallism. there is something about gadhafi, this incredible moment of unbelievable incoherence. and you know, he's going to make these tapes. and thanks to the syrians he's going to send them. no one will believe him or listen to him. >> anthony, pro gadhafi loyalists have given another extension on the deadline to surrender. he promises to fight. does he have enough force in his few remaining strongholds to make good on that promise? >> i don't think he himself has enough strength to do anything. i think he wants to show himself as some kind of insurgent leader. that's not going to happen. but i think the unresolved questions in the country are, what share is everyone going to get as the pie is divvied up in libya? and can sirte take a new order and what shape will that take? those questions aren't resolved
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yet. the transitional council right now is at a very delicate point. not only does it have to deal with the idea of a new order emerging across the country, it has to deal with a more mundane task of bringing water and electricity back to tripoli, medical supplies to hospitals. it's got a very significant or very for midable challenge ahead of it. >> fouad ajami, appreciate your time tonight. anthony shadid, appreciate it. let me know what you think on facebook. follow me on twitter @ aenz aenz cooper a new study between the dust ten years ago at 9/11 and cases of cancer in firefighters since then. could make a big difference for first responders not currently covered for cancer based on a federal law on old research later a continuing series, ungodly discipline. we're looking into a network of christian reform schools for so-called troubled teens. they're facing accusations tonight of abuse for allegedly
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taking discipline way too far. let's check in with isha there are new developments in hurricane irene's aftermath, and amazing stories emerging tonight. we'll take you inside the rescue and recovery effort in one flooded community and speak with a volunteer firefighter who's been helping out. that and much more when 360 continues. [ female ] we will always be dependent on foreign oil.
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breaking news tonight that might mean the world to the men and women who rushed the world trade center, watched it collapse all around them, kept working in a toxic cloud of dust and rubble. a lot of those early responds started falling ill with cancer. right now they're not eligible for benefits under recent federal law because it doesn't recognize a link between cancer
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and the 9/11 dust. earlier tonight the medical journal lancet released a new study showing that firefighters are at a greater risk of cancer, the firefighters who responded to 9/11. the lead author of the study is the new york fire department's chief medical officer. cnn's sanjay gupta joins us with details. >> the study shows the dust produced by the collapse of the twin towers is making the responders sick, right? >> reporter: that is right. and the idea it would cause some sort of illness has been pretty well established. what's been at odds and a bit controversial frankly for some time is the possible relationship between the dust and cancer. there have been some studies that have shown no links, some studies have shown a small link. this one is a much more significant study. it's a 10-year study looking back the last ten years. they followed these firefighters all along this time. what they basically conclude was that there was an association
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and 19% increased risk of developing cancer for fire workers who were first responders who worked on the pile at 9/11. if they included all cancers including cancers that developed soon after 9/11, the association was even higher, a 32% increase,ed risk. the lead author as you just mentioned, dr. david prezant, called this pretty significant to me. i interviewed him about this specifically. listen to what he had to say. >> as we start seeing cancers we want to answer their question, is cancer increased. and i have to tell you that my initial bias was that for the first 10 or 15 years we would not see an increase. that's another reason why i think our findings are so strong. because i actually thought we would find the opposite. >> you were surprised. >> very much so. whether we can say that cancer is increased in other responders or area residents, we have no idea. this is a study about firefighters. their exposure is so unique.
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85% of the exposed were present in the first 48 hours of the collapse when the exposure was massive. that is a very unique exposure. >> firefighters watching, they have the lingering question, why did i get this cancer and was it related to the dust. and you would say what? >> for most instances, it was world trade center-related. >> pretty remarkable to hear that, anderson. i mean, again what he's saying is something that a lot of people haven't been able to definitively say. two quick caveats, this was a fireworksers specifically. he's not making generalizations about other people in lower manhattan or even other responders. even though it is ten years since 9/11, this would still be considered an early study as far as cancer goes. as we've talked about before, anderson, you and i, it can take 15, 20, 30 years sometimes for cancers to develop. >> what's frustrating for a lot of the first responders,
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firefighters, is that they were just told by the federal government in this new health bill that there's not a link because there's no proof of a link and therefore they won't get covered. i know you've been studying the contents of the dust from 9/11 for some time now. is it toxic? how does it actually hurt people who inhailed it? >> yeah. it's interesting. it's a wholly unique situation. the amalgamation of things that came together was a situation that most toxicologists have never seen before. a lot of these chemicals sort of bound to the dust. so that mist of dust that you saw over the lower manhattan area wasn't just a dust, it was dust contaminated with all the vary chemicals. what we know is when you breathe in it can cause health problems, the world trade center cough. then as it got furtherer into the bronchials it was like sand paper causing an inflammation that now this doctor and others believe may have been the
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genesis of these cancers, this increased rate of cancers they're seeing. so respiratory problems, yes. that made sense to everybody. the cansers now they're starting to develop some ideas as to the mechanism, looking at that dust. >> and these are folks who rushed down there and worked there for weeks and weeks and months and months, regardless of their own concerns at the time about not having proper equipment or anything. they were there every single day and around the clock. based on the results of this new study, i mean, will these people be able to get coverage? >> you know, i can tell you, i think this is going to be one of the more controversial things with regard to health and certainly with regard to health and the pile that you're looking at there. i mean, it's already been a big source of controversy. what i will say is that we reached out to the national institute of occupational safety hazards who oversees this. they say they're going to take this study into account. they haven't changed their recommendations yet since july, which shows no compensation for those with cancer. but at their next review meeting
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which is next year, this study's going to be one of the studies they look at. >> next year. i think for a lot of firefighters hearing that is going to feel like -- >> a long time away. >> a lifetime away. sanjay, appreciate it. thanks very much. you can see sanjay's full investigation of the health fallout from 9/11 and rare never-before-seen footage in his documentary "terror in the dust" this wednesday at 11:00 p.m. on cnn coming up the latest in the devastating aftermath of hurricane irene. parts of new york and vermont are still dealing with the effects of it. in pratsville, new york, homes, businesses completely destroyed. i'll get the latest from a volunteer firefighter working in pratsville. later, ungodly discipline. gary tuchman reporting on a fundamentalist baptist school in -- allegations of emotional abuse based on the bible. details ahead. the crib is already there. great. thank you so much. [ male announcer ] we provide great service,
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the devastation in several northern states after hurricane irene is becoming more evident as the days go by. in vermont fema is making federal aid available after president obama dedlard disaster in the state. the national guard is trying to help bring in supplies. vermont got some of the worst flooding from the storm as did upstate new york where a group of communities, 50 miles southwest of albany, has been decimated. residents of the town of pratsville say they've had flooding before but it's never been like this. people are now homeless. family-owned businesses destroyed.
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two brothers have been running a gas station that has been in the family for generations. they don't know what to do next. >> we have nothing left. there's absolutely nothing there but concrete, a concrete slab. >> if you want to rebuild as you can see the land where we can rebuild is just not there. we have no land to put our business on. it's gone. >> earlier i spoke with matt -- a volunteer firefighter from pratsville who's been helping with the recovery effort. >> matt, you say you've never seen destruction like this before. >> from my last 23 years of my life that i've lived, i've never seen destruction from mother nature one-on-one first hand like this before. >> i mean, the pictures that i'm seeing, it looks like a tornado has come through the town. >> yeah. yeah. it really does. it looks like all the trailers and all the homes were picked up and moved a good 100 yards or more depending on what part of town you're in. >> and it looks like a lot of
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homes have just been completely destroyed. >> without a doubt. i mean, all of main street, the homes either have moved off their foundations or completely just caved in on itself. >> and all of that's from water? >> all of that's from water. i mean, on the news it shows a county that had dumped about 13-23 inches within a few hours. >> was water coming from other places or was it just the amount of rainfall in the town? >> it's because of where we are. we're in the mountains, so there was a lot of runoff from the mountains that were coming down and through the streams that were running into the main creek, the area creek that runs through our town. we had another creek that comes from the wind hmm area down towards pratsville and then we also have the creek that comes from hunter that comes down to pratsville. so kind of all bottle necked right down towards our town.
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>> and you're a volunteer firefighter. you must be just now working around the clock. what kind of stuff have you been doing? >> what we've been doing is trying to get out a lot of supplies, water, food. any type of rations that red cross has brought in, national guard's brought in. and getting the people that can't access the center of town. we've been taking utility four-wheelers and other vehicles to get through certain areas and to try and cross bridges that they have deemed to be unsafe for vehicles other than emergency vehicles that need to get to the other side. >> right now, what are the biggest priorities? >> we've been going around now, our job's been going around making sure that the houses are safe to get in for people to get their stuff out. the water rose up to the first floor in every house on main street. so once you pumped out their basements and everything, now their job is to get all the furniture that was ruined out onto the street or close to the
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street where we are able to pick it up and put it in containers and get it out of here so we can start rebuilding again. >> matt, appreciate you calling in and good luck to you. just keep doing what you're doing. our best to everybody in town. >> thank you. thanks a lot. we really appreciate it isha sesay has some of the other stories we're following. >> anderson, forecasters are predicting a low pressure system off mississippi's coast will become a tropical storm tomorrow and dump up to 15 inches of rain in louisiana, mississippi and alabama. bp exxon mobile are evacuating their rigs in the gulf and have already shut down the wells. meantime, hurricane katia has been downgraded to a tropical storm but is expected to strengthen again over the next 24 to 36 hours. tonight it's less than 1,000 miles east of the northern leward islands. president obama will now unveil his jobs plan before a joint session of congress on thursday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern.
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the president's first choice, wednesday, conflicted with the gop presidential debate and house speaker boehner objected. and in congresswoman gabrielle giffords's hometown in arizona the republican party is defending its upcoming raffle of a glock handgun. it's the same make that jared lee loughner was charged with using to shoot giffords in the head as she was meeting with constituents earlier this year. six people died in the attack. the head of the county's democratic party called the fundraising raffle upsetting. it's just -- yeah. it seems a little odd to me. >> well, time now let's take a look at the shot. we're going to file this under dog days of summer, i guess. on youtube a clever puppy staying cool. take a look. >> watch the dogs' ears flop all day. >> he's busy dreaming about -- oh, he's kind of got a good spot
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there. >> he's very smart. he's fool. -- he's no fool. >> of course he got us thinking about a certain sharpei and his napping habits. [ snoring ] >> it never gets old. >> i know. didn't we just play this time other day? >> yeah, we did. but we liked it so much we brought it back. >> that's all right. we'll check in with you, isha, a little later on more serious stuff ahead, a 360 investigation called ungodly discipline. very disturbing allegations of harsh abuse and brain washing even at a fundamentalist baptist home for so-called troubled teens. some former residents call is a hor of horrors. we'll try to find out the truth. plus a major development in the case of yoran van der sloot. tonight in peru he's now officially an accused killer.
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welcome back. upclose tonight our 360 investigation on ungodly discipline. we've been looking into a network of christian reform schools that cater to fundamentalist baptist churches. this can be traced back to texas evangelist lester roloff. used a girl's singing group called the honey bee quartet to promote the hom ♪
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>> well, despite the marketing pitch, his homes for girls faced multiple allegations of abuse over the years. now decades later another home that grew out of that same tra tradition is facing similar allegations. here's gary tuchman. >> reporter: i'm about to meet a man who i know doesn't want to talk to me. we know that because don williams and his father ron had already told news an e-mail they would not comment about abuse that has allegedly happened for many years on a secluded property in the northern indiana town of winona lake. the hepsaba house is a self-described fundamentalist church and boarding school for girls. the allegations are so disturbing we felt we needed a face-to-face meeting with the son or the father in charge. we found the son in a parking lot. >> we've had a lot of people complain that they've been physically, emotionally,
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mentally abused at your house. can you give as you comment about that? >> well, i would rather not. >> reporter: our conversation did not end there. but first let us introduce you to susan grotti, now 45 but spent 2 1/2 years there starting when she was 15. >> there was going to be gardening and crafts and singing and just a chance to heal. >> so that's what your parents thought this school was going to be? >> that's right. >> was it in any way correct? >> no. no. and i knew that the minute the door shut behind me. >> reporter: on her first day in this house, which was the facility used back then, susan says she was accused of having a bad attitude while cleaning the ceiling. so two staff women grabbed her, and don williams' father administered what she said was known as godly discipline. >> just bodily man handed me to the floor. and he hit me with a board as hard as he could. he's a very big man. and i was shocked. i had been paddled my whole
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life. i had never been hit like that. >> reporter: michelle dowling is 20 years old. she just got out of the house a few years ago. her parents thought the strict religious curriculum would make her a better baptist. >> they told me that it would be good for me and i'd make good, life-changing decisions. >> reporter: michelle was only 12 and brand-new in the house when she says two staff women told her to take off her clothes and forced her into a closet where a man would give what hepsaba house claims is a medical examination. >> they hold both of my legs and both of my arms down and let him do this to me. stuck an speculum inside of me. and i was scared. i was screaming. and i didn't want him to touch me. and there was nothing i could do. >> reporter: both women talk about being forced to eat a lot of food, sometimes not being given any food, being forced to drink a lot of water. susan says 28 girls shared three bed rooms in the upper floor of this house. there was one toilet.
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but -- >> if i stood up to go to the bathroom, oh, no. you can only go to the bathroom when you're told you can go to the bathroom. >> this is the girls you were with. >> right. >> what would happen if you'd go to the bathroom without asking? >> you would be padded. >> i wet the bed every night i was there. they would make a spectacle of you, like you're this horrible person to do that. i ended up having to wear pullups every night. would watch me put it on every night and they'd make me show it to them when i would take it off in the morning. >> it's been open a long time. lots of people complained about being beaten, emotionally tormented, mentally tormented all in the name of religion. a lot of us religious don't believe in hitting people and making them wear diapers and eat and drink things they didn't want to. why did you do? >> i can't comment. >> if you believe it what you do this is your chance to tell viewers. >> i understand that. i prefer not to. >> tell me. why i'm asking you respectfully why don't you want to tell us?
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>> i'm respectfully declining. >> reporter: don williams is the pastor of the church on the grounds. a former crush much goer gave cnn a cd sold by the church in which williams is preaching his views about who's to blame when a male whistles at a female. >> if you girls are walking down the sidewalk and some fellas drive by and they whistle, you better stop and think about that. what drew that whistle? was it the way i was walking? or maybe the way i was dressed or whatever? did i do something to defraud those men? >> the web site features innocuous pictures of girls who have attended around claims there are no spachkings or any out of the ordinary punishments. this facility has been around for four decades. it seems to be a thriving enterprise. as you can see, the people in charge don't particularly want to answer my questions. but we're not alone. they don't really answer to the government, either. >> reporter: in indiana, group
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homes operated by churches and religious ministries are exempt from licensure. so nobody in the government even knows what's going on behind the closed doors. the women say their parents also had no idea what was going on there. >> in the 15 months that you were in this house, how many times did you leave the grounds? >> never. >> zero? >> zero. >> reporter: the indiana governor's office says there's nothing it can do. the attorney general's office says it doesn't have jurisdiction. the same thing with the indiana department of education. notably, though, the indiana department of child services says it could investigate, providing there was a current complaint and not from someone who already walked out the door. but we've talked to more than a dozen women who say they were victimized at this house and they say they could never make any private phone calls or send uncensored letters while on the inside. this house is not the only facility of its kind. across the country victim advocates say there are unknown but large number of similar programs. >> i have nightmares about it all the time.
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like very vivid dreams like i'm trapped inside of this house again and i can't get out. that's like the only thing i want is to run out a door and for some reason i can't. >> i think i fantasized about suicide those first years out. >> reporter: we wanted to give williams one last chance to answer the allegations. >> is it true or is it not? it's either a yes or no question. >> it's not true. >> so they're lying to us? >> see, that's where you're trying to get me backed into a corner. it's their word against mine. >> reporter: we were not permitted to take video at the house property. but we did walk up the front steps and ring the bell. we saw a girl hustled back inside the home. we saw girls through the windows. but nobody would answer the door. >> well, are officials in indiana really powerless to at host even investigate or stop by? >> reporter: no. the governor today or the
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governor 40 years ago wanted to lobby the legislature, the attorney general. they absolutely could do so but they've chosen not to despite the fact we've talked to more than a dozen women ages 18 to 50, different generations who all say they've experienced the same thing. >> can the federal government do anything? >> reporter: yes. congress is considering passing legislation to help stop child abuse in boarding school facilities. it passed the house. this was three years ago. but it died in the senate committee and that's never been reintroduced. >> tomorrow gary's going to have much more on the story in a special hour-long report "ungodly discipline, collision of faith and family and the law". tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern up next, joran van der sloot charged with murder in peru accused of killing a woman in a hotel plus massive waves hitting people who are brave or crazy enough to gather to watch them. we'll tell you where and why this happened later, t-shirt trouble for jc penny. message on a shirl for girls "i'm too pretty to do homework." drawn fire and landing on our
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restitution to the family of stephany flores, the victim the. he was once the prime suspect in the disappearance of natalee holloway in aruba but he was never charged in that case prosecutors say warren jeffs is out of a hospital bed. he fell ill early this week while fasting behind bars. prison officials expect him to make a full recovery a deal to shore up the finances of the struggling new york mets has fallen apart. hedge fund manager david inehorn has pulled out of the plan to invest $200 million in the baseball team. according to the mets spokesman they weren't able to reach an agreement and the team's ownership has decided to explore other options among the money worrieses from mets owners a lawsuit for profiting off bernie madoff's massive scheme they invested in his firm. now to china's -- where massive waves some nearly 60 feet high crashed ashore.
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the waves slammed into spectators who gathered to get a look at the annual phenomenon known as astronomical tide. the waves were larger than usual due to a typhoon. when they hit land they caused panic and flooding. in southern florida a 90-year-old woman had to get her leg amputated after an 8 foot alligator attacked her and tried to drive drag her into a canal. a man shot the alligator between the eyes and it crawled back into the water. authorities don't know if it's alive or dead. >> that's crazy. >> absolutely insane! apparently it came out of the water three times to pull this woman back in. >> wow! and they move really fast. >> they move really, really fast. and did you know that there are more reports of this kind of activity at this time of year? did you know that? >> really? like alligator attacks increase, really? >> yeah. they say that according to the spokeswoman of the state's fish and wildlife conservation
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commission, she says alligators are most active at this time of year while water levels are high. >> are you talking to an alligator? are you looking down at an ail gator? >> right here. it's telling me all this stuff. the t-shirt that dares to ask the question, can a girl be too pretty to do homework. outrage over this shirt comes in one size only. extra large. another good thing about geico is, they've got, like, real live people working there 24/7. so like say you need to report a claim, alright. a real person will be there to help you. then you can use geico.com to view photos of the damage, track your claim, print an estimate. you want an english muffin? they literally hand you a toasted muffin with butter and jam. (sigh) whaa. tasty. that's, that's a complete dramatization of course, but you get my point. vo: geico 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.
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description said who has time for homework when there is a new justin bieber album that is out? she'll love this t-shirt that is just as cute and sassy as she is. no surprise, these shirts caused some moral outrage. a lot of moral outrage, more than you would probably think possible from a comfy jersey. people were not at all comfy with its message. there was an online petition, and jcpenney caved quickly. here is the statement. we agree that the too pretty t-shirt does not deliver an appropriate message and we have immediately discontinued its sale. we would like to apologize to our customers and are taking action to ensure that we continue to uphold the integrity of the merchandise that they have come to expect. now this debate comes down to two factions, basically. the vast majority of people who say the t-shirt is a hideous message for girls. of course, there are a few people who say let's bring the t-shirt back and make all the girls wear it, like a school uniform. let's make all the boys where an i'm with stupid t-shirt and call it a day.
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and granted, and thankfully that's a very, very small amount of people. the same people what see some of the shenanigans on "toddlers tiaras probably see it as a how to about installing values. in 4-year-olds. >> this goes like that. >> it does. >> when she wears the fake boobs and the fake butt, it's like an extra bonus. when she comes out on stage, everybody thinks it's hysterical. >> fake boobs on a 4-year-old. it's hysterical. girls need to know life is not all about beauty. and brains are important, too. you can't make it to the miss teen competition without education -- and maps. >> some people out there in our nation don't have maps. and i believe that our education, such as in south africa and the iraq, everywhere such as, i believe that they should -- our education over here in the u.s. should help the u.s., or should help south
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africa and should help iraq and the asian countries so we will be able to build up our future. >> overtime. so people are calling the "i'm too pretty to do homework" t-shirt the worst t-shirt in the world. i assume that's including south africa and the iraq, everywhere like such as. but now that the offending t-shirt has been yanked from the shelves, girls are going to have to make do with the other shirts jcpenney sales like my best subjects, boys, shopping, music, dancing shirt there is also the i love bling shirt for girls. and what i love, cupcake, puppies, shopping, peace, my bff. to those who think these shirts are not great for girls' self-es people, the boys don't have it any easier. here is what they're stuck with. winning isn't everything. it's just what i do. i'm the rock star of this family. coolest kid ever. do you know what kind of
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pressure that is, living up to the title coolest kid ever, while simultaneously pursuing your career in the music industry? really. now let me get this straight. the boys have to do homework, be winners while the girls get to go shopping with their bffs and sit around fawning over puppies and cupcakes. is that fair, jc penny? not fair at all. nonetheless, congratulations on becoming the official t-shirt supplier of the ridiculist.
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