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with sharks. for instance, shark meat, shark oil. >> last week she pulled shark fin soup off the menu after some spoke about it. she still serves it by request. >> there seems to me that it's such a very, very much a part of the chinese culture, and i very much would like to see it preserved. >> we're in the u.s., and there are so many more things you can eat and choose from, why kill shocks for a fin, you know. >> if your choice did not win we will have links to them on suzanne malveaux's page at facebook.com/suzannecnn. we now continue with randi kaye. it's a horrible thing to lose your things to a fire.
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>> i am the luckiest person in the world. my family is safe. now i need to check on my neighbors. >> michelle's home burned in the steiner ranch community northwest of austin. today we are reminded not all fire victims were lucky and we may not know all the dead. the biggest fire has killed at least two people, and two others, a mother and toddler died elsewhere in the state on sunday. today a 100-member search team from texas task force one plans to fan out southeast of austin where authorities fear not everybody fled when the flames approached. take a look here. this is an interactive map you can link to from the website of the texas forest service. it has burned more than 33,000 acres and is 30% contained. this time yesterday it was zero
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percent contained. and then another fire torched 75 homes and threatens many more. my colleague is watching the battle, and many don't know whether their homes burned or not and may now be getting some answers? >> reporter: yeah, authorities now here within the last hour taped information up of homes they know have burned. 233 so far. that number will be more than doubled. excuse me, the smoke has been heavier today. in one sense it's good because people are starting to absorb it, but the shock of facing the reality of what they had feared is hitting a lot of people hard. i spoke with one woman, and she was sent photos on you are iphone of her destroyed house. it's hitting her hard. take a listen.
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>> where did you get the pictures? >> my step brother, he rides a motorcycle, and he was able to get in the day after -- well, sneak in the area, and -- >> is that your van? >> yeah. it's no longer -- it's there, but it's not there. >> reporter: when you see these pictures, it must be heartbreaking? >> yes, it is. it's extremely heartbreaking. so yeah, it is. >> this is where your house used to stand? >> yes. it's where my house was. it's no longer there. >> reporter: it's shocking to see that. >> it is. >> reporter: we are just going to see that hundreds of times, randi. people are going to have to realize that's the case and they will have to start rebuilding their lives. just today something happened that really impacted people a lot. they announced they were moving people from a middle school, a temporary shelter, to a
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long-term shelter, and that hit people hard, realizing it's going to be a long time, not just a day or two but weeks, months and maybe years before they can rebuild their lives, randi. >> the fire has gone from 0% contained to 30% contained. is the weather what is helping? >> the weather is helping the firefighters. when the winds die down, it doesn't feed the fire as much and it doesn't send embers flying around that can start a new fire, sometimes miles away from the base of the fire. these firefighters are working so hard overnight, and they have really taken advantage of it. i was astounded they were able to get that much containment on a fire so intense. they hoped today by the end of the day shift today around sundown they will have the fire contained where it won't expand any more. and these conditions are unbelievab unbelievable.
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they have another calm day today. tomorrow the weather may not be as good so they need to do idea are homeless right now? >> right now, about 2500 or so people that have registered as evacuees. a lot of those people will be able to go back, and their homes were not destroyed. well over 500 homes they know have been destroyed and sorting out and trying to confirm individual addresses. 500 families without homes. i am not sure what a community does to begin to rebound from something like that, randi? >> thank you, jim, very much for the update. i want to go to chad meyers, who is watching the wind and the gulf, and so will the weather help today? >> the weather helps firefighters. the weather is not helping the breathing, even our jim almost lost his voice there trying to talk because the smoke when not being blown around settles.
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there is smoke on the haze from austin all the way back into houston as far south as corpus christi. signal smoke in the air. i don't think you can imagine what this looks like. it's from the 360 loop of austin. six miles to the buildings and another 30 miles to the fires. look at that choking smoke coming from the fire. that's when it was blowing to the south and headed down to corpus christi. that's when the winds were quite strong and now the winds died off quite a bit. we are watching the potential system in the gulf of mexico, as you said. right now the forecast, the track is taking almost the same that lee did, and all that lee did was make more fire. look at the drought from texas and oklahoma into kansas. it's so significant. it has not rained there for days and months and sometimes hundreds of days without a drop of rain. the only thing that i can tell you, randrandi, if you are in t
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area get the stuff you need out of your house in a box. right now. i don't care what county in texas. it's so dry, one spark could get you not being able to get back in the neighborhood. get things in the boxes and take them when you leave in case you cannot get back. it's that serious. >> get the to go bag ready to go. >> any significant relief in the horizon? >> not at all. people were tweeting me and asking, what about seeding the clouds, the experimental seeding? there's nothing to seed. there is no humidity in the sky. the seeding would never be able to make rain drops. there is not enough humidity anywhere. the ground has not given up evap wags, and there are no crops, and texas has lost $5.5 billion in livestock and crop damage
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from this drought. this is as bad if not worst than the dust bowl. >> chad meyers we will check back with you over the next couple hours. thank you. now to nevada where police hope to find out why a man with an assault rifle open fire in a i-hop. the man killed three people and then turned the gun on himself. and if you can, bring us up-to-date. >> randi, the carson sheriff department held a conference, and the sheriff says there was concern initially because the victims were in uniform, and while they are trying to establish a motive, the sheriff says there's no evidence of that at this time because six civilians were also shot. two of the troops were veterans. one served in iraq and the other in afghanistan. he was a husband and father of three.
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>> there is unquestionably the most devastating attack on our community in carson city's history. in fact, we have not suffered from a homicide here in this community in over three years. yesterday our town was shocked to the core. >> cnn has also learned that a cabdriver who drove the gunman, the 32-year-old man, the night before the shooting, and he said the man had expressed suicidal thoughts. and the family said he had a history of mental illness that goes way back to when he was 16 years old, and the official told cnn there's no terrorism connection in the case, and he was not on the radar. federal law enforcement prior to the shooting. >> obviously they are looking for a motive. do they think it was a mental health issue or do they think a
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motive exists out there? >> they are searching for a motive again because the national guardsmen were in uniform at the time they were targeted or the time he came in and started to shoot at them. but then they said six other people also became victims and they were civilians and they say at this point they have no reason to believe that he was acting on behalf of any group or organization that he was acting alone, and, again, he had a history of mental illness that came from his family, they say he had been dealing with this since he was 16 years old. >> you have to wonder how a guy with a history of mental illness gets his hands on an assault rifle? that's another question. >> yeah, and that's what atf is looking into. how did he get ahold of that ak-47. >> thank you for the update. tomorrow is the day president obama lays out his jobs plan, but his ideas to
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president obama is preparing to roll out his jobs speech tomorrow. it aims to stimulate new jobs, but we are hearing it will cost roughly $300 billion to pull off. we have alison kosik from the new york stock exchange with more on this. where will the money from the plan come from? >> that's the really big question here. there are only two ways to offset new spending. you cut other spending, or you raise taxes. the administration is reportedly going to be calling for a mix of the two. the president will layout all the details later next week. one of the center pieces of the plan that is expected is to be a $10 billion infrastructure bank.
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what this is is designed to pay for itself by giving loans to the private sector instead of having the government pay for them. if the plan achieves its goals and gets people back to work together, as the president i suspect would argue, then the boost to the economy will pay for the plan as well, at least in theory. >> when you hear the plan and look at the numbers, i bet a lot of folks are wondering how does this differ from the 2009 stimulus plan? >> that's another good question. this plan that is expected to be proposed is a lot less money and is smaller, as fares what is different, that's really all that is different. everything else that is expected really sounds very familiar. the payroll tax holiday, and the infrastructure projects and the extension of unemployment benefits. critics say those efforts have done little or nothing to stimulate job growth so far. as high as expectations are for
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the speech, traders i have been talking here at the new york stock exchange have no expectation they will hear anything different. if they do, they are big concerns it can get through congress, because republicans will fight back big time on what the president proposes. >> a long road, i think. watch the address to the nation on the jobs crisis on thursday. cnn special live coverage begins at 6:00 eastern, followed by the president's speech at 7:00, and then analysis at 8:00. that's tomorrow tonight here on cnn. up next, our new segment. the most undercovered story of the day. want to know what it is? i will tell you after the break. met an old man at the top asked him if he had a secret and the old man stopped and thought and said:
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today we are launching a new segment we're calling undercover. this will be the place in our show where we get to tell you and dig deeper on the stories not getting enough attention, the stories that we think are undercovered. like this one, the trial of ousted leader, mubarak. do you remember people like this, protesting, and then scenes like this at night. >> reporter: repeatedly, more and more devices being thrown, attempting to throw them into the anti-mubarak crowd. >> and then cooper broadcasting the show from the center of it all. >> reporter: i cannot tell you where we are, frankly for our
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own safety. there's a lot of journalists now who have gone underground in cairo, and that's the situation we're facing. >> it was such a dramatic and historic time. the egyptian people toppling a dictator that had been in power for decades, but did you know this week witnesses have been testifying against mubarak. mohammed, remind us what mubarak is charged with and what is happening in court this week. >> the former egyptian president is charged with the killing of the protesters and all the people killed during the revolution in egypt earlier this year and has been charged with corruption. this week we have seen the third and fourth sessions in the trial, and the first two sessions was august 1st and august 15th, but it's not just the former president who is on trial. also his sons are there as well as the former inferior minister
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of egypt. >> and cameras are no longer allowed in the courtroom. before we were able to see him behind this cage a couple of times, but now no cameras, yet it sounds like it's still a bit of a circus. >> well, that's the real irony of this. the judge, he had ruled on august 15th that cameras would no longer be allowed. one was to protect the testimony of witnesses who began to testify this week and the other was to make it less of a circus-like atmosphere. there are many attorneys all playing to the cameras. he wanted to make it less of a chaotic atmosphere, and what we have heard is it's more chaotic. not only clashes outside the courthouse, but clashes from lawyers from different camps inside the courtroom, and people are wondering if the judge can
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get it under control to make this thing as expedited as the judge promised. there is frustration that there have been delays and it's not going as fast as it should be. we saw on monday four witnesses that seem to have changed their testimony, people that were there expected them to be witnesses for the prosecution, and these were police officials. they expected the officials to testify that possibly the former president ordered the killing of the protesters or link him to the killing of the protesters. they did not testify to that. they testified that police in egypt were only given the order to use tear-gas on protesters. today another official who seemed the judge thought the testimony was changed because of that, and the official has been charged with perjury and detained, and it's a twist in a case that already has twist and there's a lot of frustration in
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the region, and people are wondering if the case will be as transparent as promised by the government, and they don't seem to be telling the story that the prosecution promised they would tell, and people are wonder fg the prosecution is up to the tas income this trial. >> thank you so much for that update. ahead in crime and consequences. an openly gay teen shot dead in his classroom. why his alleged gunman could go free despite a confession and dozens of eyewitnesses. and rushes relief to the site of pain. it's clinically proven to relieve pain twice as fast. new bayer advanced aspirin.
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in today's crime and consequence, a teenager named lawrence king, gunned down in his southern california
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classroom. two dozen students and the teacher watched in horror as it happened. the accused gunman who was 14 at the time is named brandon mcnerney, and he was brought to trial but last week a judge declared a mistrial. police say he shot king in the back of the head in 2008, and mcnerney was tried as an adult. he faced charges on first-degree murder and use of a handgun and hate crime. and the jurors voted for manslaughter, and with no hope of the unanimous decision, the judge declared a mistrial. >> reporter: in a sea of students at the junior high school outside malibu, california, this eighth grader stood out. a boy that came to school dressed like a girl. 15-year-old larry king wore
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jewelry and make up, and he showed up in boots. larry was proud of who he was. these photos are from the family's website. larry was gay. he came out at age 10. teachers say he frequently acted out making clear his sexual preference. some students were so uncomfortable, they bullied him. his friend was one of the few who stuck up for him. >> they just mocked him and every time they came around, they ran, and they said painful things about him. >> and then the bullying stopped. not because larry was accepted, but because he was dead, murdered police say by a fellow student. that awful day began in english class along with two dozen students and his teacher. they were in the computer lab so
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the students could type up their papers. the classmate, brandon was behind king. suddenly police say brandon stood up and pulled out a gun that he managed to bring into school that day. they say he pointed the gun at the back of larry's head and fired. according to some accounts, brandon dropped the gun and calmly left the classroom. somebody called 911. >> do you know where the person with the gun is? >> no. >> who is the victim? is there a victim? i am on the phone with dispatch. >> larry. >> reporter: cops picked up him in minutes. larry was pronounced brain dead but kept alive for two days. brandon is being tried as an adult, charged with first-degree murder and a hate crime. he stands to get more than 50 years in prison.
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but he says he is not guilty. in court police testify that brandon may have been bullied, too, by larry in fact. larry told people the two were dating but had broken up. and larry asked brandon to be his valentine, and brandon's friends jokes the two would make gay babies together. and on larry's final day, he went to school using his uniform like everybody else. it's unclear why, but if he decided to try and blend in, he never had a chance. >> the local district attorney is vowing to retry brandon as soon as possible, although this time he may face charges in a juvenile court. now an update of the family
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of annie le. she was killed by a technician in a research lab in 2005. for updates on these, go to cnn.com. the government spending millions to dead people. we'll explain next.
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it's about half past the hour. here is a look at the stories you may have missed.
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four people have died in texas wildfires. more than 1,000 homes have been destroyed since sunday. the biggest fire right now is in bass drop county. fires have been burning in texas now for nearly 300 days. a major development in the kelly thomas case. a story we have been following closely. you may remember thomas is the homeless man in fullerton, california, beaten to death by police officers. the family and the attorney is set to have a news conference to release the medical records and release what may have killed thomas. that will be at the top of the hour. a legal victory for italy for exchange student, amanda knox. the judge today turned down a prosecution request for new dna testing in the case. knox is fighting to have her conviction overturned in the
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death of her house mate. knox's attorneys have been working to cast doubt with the dna found on the knife used to kill the housemate. a tweet that posted rumors of a school attack causing chaos, and panicked parents raced to schools to pick up their kids sparking car crashes. the two tweeters face charges of terrorism. and millions of dollars in social security checks are being sent out to dead people. an estimate $40 million have been out to beneficiaries. and then more than 100 social security checks have disappeared. the postal service has been
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quell each day at about this same time we will tackle a hot button topic and hold washington accountable. today's hot topic. are you ready for the first fall face-off. tonight eight republican presidential hopefuls square off in california. it's the first of three debates in the next two weeks. five took part in a forum on monday, and three others join them, including rick perry. perry skipped the forum to return to texas because of the wildfires. what is at stake here for perry and the others? joining me to hash it all out is
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democratic strategists. let's talk about governor perry. he tends to dodge debates. he has participated in four debates in his ten years as being texas governor. listen to this. >> we are creating jobs in october and november. there was not a state in the nation -- name me one state in the nation that were creating jobs. it wears me out we have two people on the stage here that want to tear texas down when the fact is everybody understands this is a state you want to live in and we want to come here. this state is growing by 1,000 people add day, and they know because it's the place of opportunity. >> mary, to you first, does perry purposely avoid debates because it may show his critics are right, because they are saying it doesn't seem so
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bright. >> i don't know what was not picture perfect in that appearance. he has the best record on the issue that voters care about most, and he made that case there and he made it with positio passion, and it was a very good appearance. if his appearance tonight is as good as that clip, he will have solidified his front-runner status. >> kiki, do you want to weigh in on that? >> what happens in a debate, want to make sure you don't change your overall campaign strategy for one night. the press will look heavy at perry because they have not had a chance to see him in the spotlight. he has had a disciplined candidacy all through the summer, and not taking bait from the press or the other candidates or the current events driving it, and it should not be
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republicans just watching tonight, democrats and independents -- every american should be watching tonight because one of the people will be the republican nominee. you need to understand what the men and women are saying from day one, will they be in lock step with the tea party or with the ryan budget that there has been so much controversy behind. when you look at where americans are, will one say no i think there is chance to be had by having bipartisan solutions. there's a lot to watch for tonight. rick perry is one piece of that. >> what about perry's tough texas talk? how do you think that will play out in the debate? >> well, this is why kiki is a great strategist. she is right. nobody should be changing their strategy tonight and nobody should change their personality. one thing that is imperative for candidates is authenticity. if rick perry is not rick perry
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and mitt romney is not mitt romney, and if michele bachmann is not michele bachmann, they will see that. and a very good pollster, peter hart, said obama is no longer considered the favorite. this is between two governoring philosophies and a guy who has the record on it and can articulate it the most, and the one with the most authentic voice is the one who will go on. kiki is right on that. >> i am a person that grew up in south texas. there's a difference between tough talk and extreme talk. it's important that people recognize and that the press recognize the difference. i think people want to see our leaders lead with some level of decisive conviction. but there is a difference between that and extreme moments. i think where perry or any of the rest of them get in trouble
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is when they engage in extremism. i think there will be some of that tonight as well. >> do you think romney will go after perry by name, and should he? >> well, you know, the mitt romney in the last presidential campaign, it looks like he has learned a lot about the art and tactical skills of campaigning. because through the summer he has shown a lot of discipline to his own message, and sometimes that can be hard because your supporters are dismayed that you are not swinging at everything. and i think it will be interesting to watch if he decides to isolate other candidates by picking a fight with one or two of them. that's a strategic decision he will have to make. one of the things that will be interesting to watch, does he do that to keep play in the top tier? >> mary, i want to ask you, what does bachmann have to do tonight to break through because she is slipping a bit in the polls?
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>> she has to stay on her game. she can't -- going back to the strategy of staying on your strategy, she was right to take the swing that she did at pawlenty, because pawlenty had a vulnerability that proved to be his undoing of not showing strong enough leadership -- i am not saying he isn't, but in that forum he wasn't. if she strikes too hard at anybody that isn't -- does not have that vulnerability, then that will backfire on her. she needs to stay on her game. there are more debates and things to unfold here. the polls do not matter right now. i would just say stay on your game and don't try to smack anybody around. try to hone your message on how you would create jobs, and i see kiki used the democratic word, and she is democratic extreme, extreme, extreme.
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don't give them any more ammunition. >> thank you both and pleasure to have you on. >> thanks. >> remember, every one is fair game. thank you for playing. the unseen threat at ground zero. what exactly were the people on the frontlines exposed to? the connection to a growing number of sick first responders. we'll talk with sanjay gupta in just 90 seconds. [ male announcer ] you know there are germs
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new york. you spent the last year investigating the health of the first responders. how big of a problem has this cancer become for them? >> over the last few weeks we learned a lot more specifically about the relationship between this dust and cancer. it's been a controversial issue, randy. as you know, there have not been a lot of studies actually showing cause and effect relationship here, and now at the 10-year point we have more knowledge about this than ever before. i will tell you one of the things as i have been investigating this, that you see is so many young people, as you mentioned, so many people there on the pipe working who subsequently developed cancer, so many of them that they had these things called cancer clubs, people getting together to talk about their cancer, and take a listen to what we found. >> one of my friends, he's a captain, and he had multiple
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lymphoma. >> how many people can you think of that fall into the pattern that developed cancer? >> so many i hear of. every month there's a couple more. >> every month? >> yeah. >> we do know there are carson inlgs. the question is how long does it take for people to develop cancer after they have exposed to the dust. >> earnie has no doubt that there is a connection between his cancer and the dust. >> i firmly believe that. >> it's a tough thing to prove, isn't it? >> oh, sure. >> what they believe is that the science is going to catch up ultimately. again, at the 10-year mark, randi, it could be early. they are seeing a 19% increased risk, but what about 20 or 30 years, that's what the
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scientists are looking at now. >> i know you have a jar of the dust with you. is that really what they think is behind this illness? >> yeah. you know, i think that this dust which researchers have been collecting for sometime, this is from a lab. one of the few reminders of the attacks of 9/11, but they analyze this and find a unique chemical structure. you have benzine mixed with asbestos, and all the chemicals thrown together at the time of the attack, and people were breathing the dust in that had the chemicals attached to it. if you think about the immediate aftermath of the attacks, there was a smell that people talked about for sometime. so many of the compounds were the volatile compounds that evaporated into the air and could not be collected like this dust. there are still some things that are unknowable about what
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exactly got into peoples' bodies at that time. >> so sad and to see them struggling now breaks your heart. thank you so much, sanjay. >> and "proper in the dust" premieres tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern time. up next, gym equipment that turns your hard workout into -- listen to this -- electricity? get in shape and power building.
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. hello. i'm randi kaye. i'm a gym rat. yes, it's true. my producer wrote that.
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but that's okay. it's true. i love to work out which is why i think the big i today is cool. it's a company which retrofits gym equipment to, get this, generate electricity. a typical 30-minute workout could produce 50 watt hours of clean carbon-free of electricity. in ten hours a kilowatt. it doesn't sound much but with dozens of mps across the country, it can add up. joining me, the president of the company and lori cline who installed these in her gym at the university of north texas. hudson, let me start with you. how does this technology actually work? >> i'll give you the basic fundamentals here. you've got the kinetics of the people working out on the equipment and thar creating motion fed back into the building, via the gym equipment and your system. what we're doing is taking kinetics, harnessing that, similar to wind and sending that
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electricity back into the building. >> how many gyms is this in around the country? >> at this point, i think we're in close to 30 facilities across the u.s. the higher ed mark has been a first mover. a lot of their facilities are doing buildings, sustainable projec projects. this has lined up with their goals and initiatives. we're starting to see the military gyms coming on-line and more and more facilities are looking into it and the commercial space as well. >> lori, what made you want to put this in your gym and what's been the reaction to the folks -- do the folks understand they're all about power? >> they do. one of the things that kind of got us interested is just the ability to give back and our student have been very, very recepti receptive. one of our students indicated it was a great way to be a part of a green initiative. he was going to work out anyway at the gym. it's great she was giving back as well. >> correct me if i'm wrong, but are you actually now one of the
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largest human power plants in the country? >> yes, we are. we have 36 ellipticals connected to reref right now. >> that's pretty cool. had you h hudson, what's this about? about going green or saving the gyms money? >> i think there are a lot of different reasons that people are interested in the tk nolg. there's a few different points here. one would be education. i didn't know what a kilowatt hour represented. when you get on a machine and try to produce one-tenth of that, you have a better realization of this is what power is, this is how it affects my life. maybe people leaving a room will think twice before leaving a light switch on. you look at a power bill and see all the kilowatt hours. what does that mean and how dos it relate back? i think you see different people picking up different messages from the system. my thing is, i like to see more people interested in renewable
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energy and thinking about how the equation works in society. >> is this just for cardio equipment or can it work with weightlifting as well? >> you know, we thought about weightlifting. you don't have the kind of consistency and the kind of time that we need. just a burst of energy. kind of more like lightning. what we're trying to harness is like the consistency of motion. cardio equipment is the low hanging through and that's the place to start with. >> sounds cool. appreciate your time. very cool technology, thank you. for much more about this technology, you can check out my facebook page. facebook.com/randi kaye, cnn. coming up, new jersey governor chris christie may not be running for president, but he is stepping up his political activity on the national stage. find out more, next. [ sigh ] too bad you're not buying car insurance. like that's easy. oh, it is. progressive direct showed me their rates
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com mark preston is watching all things politics for us. lets talk about chris christie raising his profile. >> he's not going to run for president but he'll be a player in 2012. he became the vice chairman of the republican governor's association. this is a very important slot. he'll be traveling the country and raising money to help elect governors in 2012. what this could do is help him in 2016 if he decides to run for president then. he's not running in 2012. but being the vice chairman of the rga will help him build a
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national network of donors and supporters. not that he doesn't have a lot of support right now, randi. >> what about tim pawlenty. he's making comments about the gop debate tonight. >> he is. he's not going to be on stage in california. but he was on the stage of colbert report last night. maybe the colbert report is better. tim pawlenty got to have fun with the fact that he's not in the presidential race anymore. in fact, listen to what he had to say about that poor showing he had in the iowa straw poll that forced him out of the race. >> i was out of money. came in third place behind michele bachmann and ron paul. that's enough for any one person to endure. >> then you have tim pawlenty on the colbert report basically making fun of his candidacy. having some lightheartedness saying he wasn't able to move move from 1%. i will tell you, randi, he will try to be a player in 2012. i know people close to him. he wants to stay in the gape. randi? >> mark preston, thank you for
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that. we want to start this hour with a major development in the kelly thomas case. a story that we have been following closely on this show. you may remember, thomas is the homeless man in fullerton california who was allegedly beaten to death by six fullerton police officers. in just a few minutes, we may get a better understanding of how thomas died. his family and their attorney are releasing some of thomas' medical records and new graphic details into what may have killed kelly thomas. those are being revealed at this news conference that should be getting under way momentarily. this is a live picture of the podium there. they are ready to go. let me show you another picture. we want to warn you, this picture is graphic but it may give you an understanding of the brutality involved in this man's death. this is kelly thomas before and after the alleged beating in july. witnesses say he was repeatedly beaten, tasered, kicked and hogtied by these officers. we want to be clear that the coroner has not released the
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official cause of death. but his family and attorneys say the medical experts and illustrations they're approximate to present today are all proof that thomas died because of what those officers are accused of doing to him. we're keeping an eye on the details coming out of that news conditions and will bring you much more later this hour. now, to texas where property losses from a year of devastating wildfires have been clos ol. loss of life has been low. that's reason for thanks when everything else has been lost. >> i am the luckiest person in the world. my family is safe. now i need to check on my neighbors. >> just since sunday, four people died in two separate fires and authorities fear there may be victims we don't know about yet. today a 100-member search team from texas' task force one plans to search in bastrop area.
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here's an interactive map that you can link to from the website of the texas forest service. the bastrop fire has burned more than 33,000 acres, almost 800 homes. it is now 30% contained. a fire northwest of houston was burned some 5,000 acres in grimes county up from 3,000 yesterday. that one is torched 75 homes and threat yens many more. my colleague, jim spellman, watching the battle in bastrop. evacuees don't know whether their homes are burned are not may now be getting answers? >> just a few hours ago, randi, authorities posted the addresses of about half of the homes burned here in bastrop. for a lot of people, it was a relief to at least know that their home was burned. to at least know -- even though they sort of knew the result, they knew they were in the burn zone, to find out for sure, they could exhale and move towards the next thing. there's been a lot of anxiety about that, randi. we got to catch up with a couple
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of the people trying to find out. take a listen. >> not knowing what the end result is going to be, i'm pretty convinced in my mind that it's not going to be good. but then trying to figure out where we go from here. >> a house can be replaced. but i think all the memories is what really hurts. it hits the heart. i start thinking about my baby's pictures and the things they made in elementary and the things i put up to save as a gift to their kids. it's gone. it hurts. >> the neighbors here are -- the people in the community are relying on each other. they're taking in other families, several displaced families might be joining up and renting a house together. you really see people coming together. it's just going to -- when this fire is out and the firefighters leave, this town is going to have such a long road to come back and feel like home again for a lot of these people.
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even if they get insurance money and they can rebuild, someone described it as a blackened testimony temple to the past they don't want to compaq to. >> jim, we're getting word about an arson fire somewhere in texas. do you have any information on that? >> yeah. authorities are looking for four teenagers, two boys, two girls from a fire. it's nowhere near this fire. it's ai separate fire. but it destroyed a handful of homes. it's unbelievable that anybody would think of doing something like that. these drought conditions are so extreme that even a spark from a chain hanging off a mobile home or something is enough to spark a fire. people setting fires on purpose. even though it was not near here, people are talking about that. it was in the newspaper and on the local media. they're not happy. i mean, people are really upset. they've given the serious ramifications of a fire that anybody would think about doing something like that. >> that is tough to think about. jim spellman, thank you for that update. way nt to go back to chad
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myers who is watching the wind, humidity an the gulf. all of it in fact. chad, is weather going to help, do you think or hurt texas more today? >> weather helps the firefighters. but really it's not helping the people of texas much. because now the haze and the smoke and the fog and all that, the smog into austin, into san antonio, certainly into corpus christi, but it's been there. the thing is, for most of the time and lee, i know we hoped that lee would bring rain to texas. that didn't happen. lee brought wind to texas. lee was to the east. there was a high pressure to the west. there were strong northerly wind. those winds just fanned those fires on saturday and sunday and into monday. now, lee is long gone and the wind are long gone as well. so those calmer wind will help because you don't push embers miles and miles ahead and start more fires. it's almost like using the old bellow to get your fireplace going or how the blacksmiths used to make iron gettinger and
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faster, the more -- the hotter the flame. >> this very well may be nate in the gulf of mexico. we'll talk about nate. we still have katia and maria. but nate could be the next storm that could bring something to texas, although all of the models are in disagreement to go to texas. a couple of them taking it toward louisiana, a few into mexico. the story is not so much that. i think the story is, can we get any rain whatsoever anywhere? it does look like katia is a gutter ball. that's fantastic. 88 miles per hour storm now. to be 80 miles per hour and missing, although there's dangerous rip current, i hope we don't lose somebody from a gutter ball because you were silly enough to go outside into the water. now we go to maria, in the turks and cake owes and puerto rico. almost a hurricane and that would come in probably toward the east coast on monday and tuesday of next week. but still forecast to be a big
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right-hand turner and even turning right just like katia did. look at all the ground delays, though. this has nothing to do with anything. maybe light moisture left over from lee, but not much. nine airports with at least an hour or more delay across the east coast with all that rain up and down the northeast right now. could even bring more flooding. they don't need rain in the northeast. >> no. that's about the last thing they need. all right, chad. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. other news developing this hour. the death toll it from a shooting at an ihop in carson city, nevada has risen to four. 11 people were shot with when a man opened fire inside the restaurant. three killed were members of the army national guard. they're major heath kelly of reno nevada and row lan da of reno and sergeant first class of carson city. shooter edward sencoin was carrying an assault rifle. he fired the rifle then turned the gun on himself. there is no immediate word on a
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motive today. a legal victory in italy for amanda knox. a judge today turned down prosecutors' request for a new dna testing in the case. knox is fighting to have her conviction overturned in the 2007 death of her housemate meredith kercher. the judge rejected prosecution efforts to introduce newly found records about the original evidence. they're working to cast doubt on the dna evidence found on the knife used to kill kercher. the appeals hearing has been adjourned until september 23rd. a live report at the bottom of the hour. drill baby drill. the oil industry could deliver millions of jobs if allowed to expand drill off parts of the protected east coast. in alaska claim it would boost tax rolls by $800 billion and increase domestic energy production by nearly 50%. charges of terrorism and sabotage for tweets. you heard me right.
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let's make medicare stronger for all of us. becoming a more popular form of communication all around the world. i tweet all the time about what's coming up on this show. what stories might interest me. i'm sure many of you tweet with me. >> it was blamed for inciting some of the violent riots that we saw in london just last month. just a couple of weeks ago, it's how word spread so quickly about that earthquake that struck near washington, d.c. but now, listen to this story. in mexico, two people under arrest facing up to 30 years in
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prison for some of their recent tweets. that's right. 30 years. they're accused of terrorism for sending messages that turned out to be rumors. the rumors were that a school in the city of vera cruz was under attack. here a couple of the tweets. my sister-in-law just called me all upset. they kidnapped five children from the school. and then this one. remain calm. i think that the children should be in their homes. go get them. once those messages started spreading on twitter and facebook, panic ensued and apparently dozens of car crashes even followed as parents raced to the schools to try and get their kids. joining me to talk more about this case is marvin a more i. he's a lawyer with expertise in internet and freedom of speech law. marvin, tell us what you think about this case. >> well, i mean, this case shows both the good side of twitter and the bad side of twitter. so on the good side, in mexico, there's a big drug war going on. it's been going on for many years many people no longer
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trust journalists and mainstream media: they've been afraid to cover a lot of the violence. people have turned to social media, twitter, facebook, it's been a huge success. people don't leave their homes in the morning without checking twitter to determine if there's violence in the streets. but on the bad side, when there's a false rumor, people will trust twitter more than they trust the government or the mainstream media and they might respond or overrespond in a crisis. which is what happened here. >> you're saying because this happened in a violent part of mexico, it had a different effect, you think? >> i think so. what would happen in the u.s. in the u.s. if there were tweets about a kidnapping at a school, you would google it, you would read a story from cnn.com or reuters or some other news outlet you trust. you would check the twitter feed of your government officials answered then try to determine if it's accurate. people rely on twitter.
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and so i think one of the reasons it happened in mexico is because of that. that lack of trust in the authorities. >> let's talk about intent here. from what i understand, one of the the people accused actually just retweeted the tweet from the original person. we do that all the time. do you think that will make a difference in how this case gets prosecuted? >> that's very interesting question. it seems as though you simply can't stop people from retweeting rumors. the people who are retweeting often were thinking they were doing a service to the other public that there was a crime going on, that there was kidnapping. so i think that the intent of a retweeter would be pretty hard to prove that that person was a prankster. in fact, both of the people under arrest, one is a math teacher and one a well-known journalist and radio broadcaster. there's not much evidence they were trying to cause a problem. what it seems is going on is that the mexican government hasn't been able to make people
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feel safe and when things like this happen, there was an arson earlier that day. when things like this happen, people tend to find -- governments tend to find scapegoats. it's seems as though government is trying to blame people for their own failings. >> do you think this could happen in the u.s. might someone be accused and possibly jailed for 30 years for a tweet? >> i would hope not. i believe that in every country government officials try to pass the buck and blame someone else for their own inability to keep people safe. but i think in the u.s. there would be a huge backlash, especially trying to put somebody in jail for 30 years. we have seen a worldwide backlash both in mexico and around the world. trying to prosecute people for tweets, especially in a state that can't keep its people safe. >> marvin ammori. such an interesting case. we'll continue to follow it. thanks for yu time today. after the attacks of 9/11, a wall street professional is
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motivated to leave his lucrative career behind to open his own business. we'll share his story right after the break.
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this sunday marks ten years since the attacks of september 11th. a date that changed many lives and for some marked the beginning of a new journey. right now we want to introduce you to a man who gave up a high-paying secure job on wall street to start his own business. here's christine romans. >> this is the ticket that changed david's life and career
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forever. >> september is 11th. >> i was on my way into basically work on 9/11. i never made it in. >> in fact, it took him three years to return to his job as a currency trader on wall street. when he did, after a leave of absence, wall street had changed. he had too. >> the culture wasn't what i wanted anymore. i didn't like the way they treated people. >> that's when he pulled a professional 180. leaving his lucrative career and salary to open his own business. sports themed barber shops. >> so you went literally from pressing a button and hundreds of millions of dollars moving around in trades to selling 23 d haircuts? >> yeah. it's 18 with a discount. [ laughter ] yeah, that is. this isn't about money. i mean, hopefully this will make good money over time.
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but this isn't ever going to make a ton of money. but that doesn't seem to be as important anymore. >> what is important to him now is making a difference. >> this is me building a business. this is having employees. this is trying to have a value system that's mine. i get to enforce with my people. this is mentoring people. this is client contact. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> he may not actually pick up a pair of scissors, but he's hands-on in just about every other way. >> i understood this was crazy. a lot of people don't get it. it's a very different world. and people forget and people make friend on wall street, they say they get it. they don't get it. you're making seven figures, you don't get it. >> his wall street friend may not get it, but his family certainly does. >> what does your family think about your career change? >> i was surprised that they were incredibly proud of me.
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one son came and set up the computers for me. the other one came out, he took coupons and went door to door to businesses and started handing out coupons. my daughter and brought her friend from high school. she wanted to show her friends what her dad had done. i was beaming. >> ten years ago on september 11th, 2001, when he began his morning commute, the ticket he purchased bought him more than just a seat on the train. >> kr do you keep it? >> a memory. every time -- i got chills. every time i look at it, i think of what happened. >> it's a day he'll never forget. christine romans, cnn, somerset, new jersey. be sure to join christine romans for a 9/11 anniversary edition of your bottom line this weekend. christine will talk about how to handle the anniversary both personally and with your family. that's saturday morning at 9:30 eastern. all this week, cnn marks a decade since the 9/11 attacks. tonight at 11 eastern, dr. sanjay gupta looks at the health
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problems of survivors and first responders in terror in the dust. on sunday, cnn will have special live coverage of the remembrance events throughout the day. dear mr. president, if you could write barack obama a letter about how to fix the economy, what would you ask for? we asked one small businessman next.
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for them to hire. the opinions from these hands-on workers range from lowering healthcare costs to just getting out of the way. joining me now for today's taking the lead, john kung will, the ceo of 50 eggs restaurant in miami. john, thank you so much for coming on the show today. tell us in your letter to the president, what would you ask him to do? >> well, you know, i think healthcare is a looming thing for all small business owners. you know, the tax rate and some of the tax incentives are really some of the things that challenge and worry a lot of small business owners. >> many of the people who wrote the letters to the president for our cnn.com mention the importance of job training. how do you feel about that? >> well, you know, in a restaurant business, we're constantly training and technical job training doesn't particularly benefit us in that way that it would other businesses. you know, i'm definitely more of a fan of putting dollars back into the pocket of the people that actually create jobs.
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i understand that the programs have a resource and a reason behind them, but they're not something that typically affects us directly. we haven't seen a lot of use for a lot of those programs in our segment of the business. >> are you on board changing the payroll taxes? >> i'm on board with extending the payroll tax cuts. those are helpful without a doubt as long as -- as well as some of the depreciation credits that were along the way. i think at the end of the day that most of those incentives help, but they're not taking the drastic steps needed to really create an economic environment for business to really prosper. i think that healthcare and the tax rates as a whole are really those looming things that we look at. healthcare for a small restaurant is really something that worries everyone. it's constantly on the mind of anybody that's involved in day-to-day restaurants and you know, it's a huge concern going forward much what's going to happen with that. >> in your letter to the president, which i actually read, it's well-written.
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you actually say that you're cautiously optimistic about what you might hear from the president tomorrow night. why is that? >> well, listen, i'm optimistic because business owner, an american, i want to see great things happen with the economy for my own business as well as the rest of the country. but i think that so much of what's happening now is more about approval ratings and elections coming up as opposed to moving the needle. i think we're dealing with two very different points of views from government right now that have to do with investing in infrastructure and growing the government and scaling back on that. and as we saw with the debate over the debt ceiling, you know, there's not a lot getting done these days. so the economic environment at least in south florida and as we go throughout the country, that's a feeling across the board. we're cautiously optimistic. we're hoping for the best. but i don't think anybody expects real change. certainly not from the speech. >> all right. john kunkel.
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we appreciate your letter to the president and your time on the show today. >> thank you for having me. the government sending millions of dollars to dead people. really? next. [ bell dings ] [ car door closes ] ♪ are you okay? yeah, i'm okay. and the truck? i got good news for you, kid. you're getting a new truck. what do you mean? i mean it's gonna cost more to fix than it's worth. besides, the truck's older than you. grab your stuff out of the truck and meet me up front. ♪ ♪ just fix it. ♪
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it's half past the hour. here's a look at stories you might have missed. much of of the u.s. dealing with extreme weather today. tropical storm lee is making flash flood watches and warnings for parts of pennsylvania, new
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york and new jersey. in texas tex, four people have died in wildfires there. more than a thousand homes have been destroyed since sunday. the biggest fire right now is in bastrop county. the 100-member search team is there to look for people who may not have evacuated. fires have been burning in texas for nearly 300 days. the death toll from a shooting at an ihop restaurant in carson city nevada has risen to four. 11 people were shot when a man opened fire inside the restaurant. three killed were members of the army national guard. they are identified as sergeant first class miranda mca lane i of reno, nevada. major heath kelly and christian reed of carson city. edward sencion was carrying an assault rifle and pistol. he fired the rifle and turned the gun on himself. no word on a motive. in mexico, a tweet could put two people behind bars for up to 30 years. prosecutors say the two posted false rumors about school attacks on twitter and facebook
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causing chaos on the streets of vera cruz. one claimed five children were kidnapped, another mission a bomb threat. parents raced to school to pick up kids which caused crashes. they face charges of terrorism. in connecticut, the family of yale student an i lay filed a wrongful death suit. they did little to protect women on campus from aggressive male behavior. she was killed in a research lab in 2009 by a technician. the university says the lawsuit has no merit. millions of dollars in social security checks being sent out to dead people. an estimated $40 million has been doled out to deceased beneficiaries based on the most recent audit in 2008. in north carolina, more than 100 social security checks that were to be delivered to the town of trinity have simply disappeared. the postal service has opinion working to track down the
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missing checks. fired over the phone. that's what happened to former yahoo see yoe carol bartz. in an e-mail to employees, she -- she filed deliver on her promise to turn the slumping company around mainly due to lost ad revenue to competitors, facebook and google. we'll leave you with a look at the markets now. the dow is up 246 points. next, a legal victory in italy for amanda knox and her father talks to cnn. we'll go live to italy in today's globe trekking. ♪ [ male announcer ] each of these photos was taken by someone on the first morning of their retirement. it's the first of more than 6,000 sunrises the average retiree will see.
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a legal victory in italy for exchange student amanda knox. the judge turned down prosecutors' request for new dna testing in the case. knox is fighting to have her case overturned in the death of
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her housemate, meredith kercher. knox's attorneys have been working to cast doubt on the dna evidence found on the knife. matthew chance caught up with knox's father curt after today's hearing. >> the appeals court asked for the independent review and they came back with a very precise accurate report. i think what that does is it really says that they believe in that. there's no reason do another review by the prosecution who were originally against an independent review to start with. >> because the independent experts basically cite the dna evidence used to convict your daughter is unreliable? >> that's exactly what it says. it basically -- they have no case. there is no case left. and i'm very hopeful that by the end of the month, we'll get to bring amanda home. >> do you think that what we're witnessing now is the prosecution case which you were always obviously standing against is now falling apart at
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the seams? >> well, if you take a look at each of the components of the evidence and you eliminate the bra and the knife and anybody that knew about their whereabouts, that says they didn't know it, there is no case. there is none. i mean, amanda and raphael were not at the house when meredith lost her life. >> how optimistic are you though, given your experience with the italian justice system, what you've been through in that trial that convicted amanda of this killing, how optimistic are you really now that this evidence is going to feed into that process and you'll see your daughter walk free sf. >> you know, i've watched the appeals court act very differently during this trial. it really appears to me that they want to find the truth. and you know, i'm very hopeful now, even after the response that we've just received that by the end of the month, we'll get to bring amanda and raphael
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home. >> matthew chance joins us now from italy. matthew, is sounds like he's saying he's hopeful but is there reason for optimism for the knox family? >> reporter: well, certainly curt knox being optimistic about the chances of this conviction. for 26 years, for amanda knox being overturned. i think it's important to remember, it's not a done deal. there's lots of other evidence the jury in this appeal will have to consider. there's lots of circumstantial evidence which at least apparently connects amanda knox with the killing. ultimately, the jury and the judge will decide. it's not just on this one ruling. it's a positive steph from the knox point of view. >> was the victim's family in the courtroom today? >> reporter: no. meredith kercher, of course, killed back in 2007.
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her family not in the court today. they've kept a very low profile throughout this. they were represented by their attorney, though, and he made some comments afterwards saying that he kind of agreed with the judge not to look for more investigations. but he didn't consider this to be a defeat. the meredith kercher family, a very keen for justice to be done in this case. they're very keen to remind everybody out there that in fact it was their daughter, meredith kercher that is the true victim of this case and they've objected on many occasions to this idea that amanda knox has been made out to be the victim in so many instances. but obviously, they're watching this clearly very closely indeed, randi. >> i'm sure it's difficult for both families involved. matthew chance reporting for us. let's take a moment to remember the victim in this case. the 21-year-old student from england was studying in italy as
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part of an exchange program. she was there two months before the murder. her older sister wrote a letter to the judge hearing this latest appeal questioning the decision to possibly throw out key evidence in the case. she also said that she and her family can't find a day of peace as the appeals process continues to dragon. kl i thomas' family and attorney are calling what allegedly happened at the hands of fullerton police "murder." they're going forward with medical reports which they say are proof. we'll have that story in 90 seconds. .
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for the first time we are getting a glimpse into what may have kelly thomas. he's the homeless man allegedly beaten to death in california by six fullerton police officers. we've been covering the investigation into his death very closely on this program. his family and their attorney went public today with some very graphic and revealing developments at this press conference. the details come directly from medical records released by the hospital to kelly thomas' family. we're going to speak with kelly's dad, ron thomas, in just a moment about all of this. before we go any further, we have to warn you, the pictures and the images that you are about to see are graphic. some of them are hard to stomach. we want to show them to you to help you understand the force and the brutality involved in this man's death. take a look. this is kelly thomas before and after his alleged beating.
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witnesses say what began with a search of his backpack and reports of car burglaries ended like this. until now, that was the only photo that gave us a real look at kelly thomas' injuries. the orange county coroner has not determined or released the official cause of death as of yet. the thomas family attorney went into detail about the revealing images. you're looking at illustrations created by the attorney and a team of medical experts. they detail the injuries on kelly thomas' body based on the medical records. the family attorney says they're proof of how he died, proof of what the six fullerton officers are accused of doing to him. >> pistol whipped him repeatedly by pounding him on his head. as he did that, as that officer did that, he caused serious injury and eventual brain death. >> that's just a few of the details that we're learning
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about. ron thomas, kelly's father is going to join us over the phone in a moment. we'll get his reaction. first, i want to go to david begnow, he's covering it for ktla. david and ron will join us from los angeles. david, i want to talk briefly about what we found out during this press conference. those records reveal doctors determined a cause of death, blunt trauma to his head. what evidence do the medical records give for that? >> well, the medical records specifically indicate with radiological scans obtained from the hospital that kelly not only had a broken cheekbone but also the bridge of his nose was broken. randi, inside the nose there's a plate, a thin broad plate if you will. that was also broken. the attorney says that was done by the force of these officers. whether or not they may have used the butt of a taser, whether they used their knees, will they used their hand, something caused that massive damage to his face. and so far, we know the cheek,
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the nose and the bone inside the nose were broken. >> what do you think was most revealing in terms of what was laid out today? >> reporter: it was interesting. on the medical form which i actually have in my hand here. at the bottom of the form, there is actually the word assault. that is the word from doctors. it's misspelled. but the attorney says that's exactly what he believes is the word used by doctors to describe how they think kelly thomas died. again, we've not heard the cause of death from the coroner. the orange county coroner haen divulged that yet. but for the doctor to use head trauma and assault that for the family is clear that kelly thomas died at the hand of the fullerton police officer. >> we don't have the coroner's report so we don't have the official report. but is the lawyer in the family confident in these findings? >> reporter: well, they are. in fact, what they're hoping and the attorney was quite clear, he's releasing this for one reason. he's trying to put pressure on
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the orange county district attorney to come forward with criminal charges. if this da comes out with a report that does not charge these six officers criminally, it's going to be quite a day here in southern california. the fuel and anger for this story has been driven by the people. they've come up with a blog. the people in fullerton and orange county are driving this story. the d.a. wanted the people to see this so they could know what happened to kelly. >> david, fullerton police released a statement to us about this today. the issue they say the issue is really between mr. thomas and the coroner's office and it wouldn't be appropriate for us to comment. we're awaiting the results from the coroner and the d.a.'s investigation. just quickly, david, what is the mood there in fullerton? >> reporter: anger. per sis at the present time anger that has not subsided. this happened on july 5th to thomas. he was rushed to the hospital. he was pronounced brain-dead on july 10th. ever since then, every saturday there is a protest at the
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fullerton police department. again, those six officers, they're not on the job, but they are being paid and collecting benefits and the people of fullerton are angry. but this story has gone well beyond fullerton. it's national thanks to cnn and international as you hear the taser behind me. the attorney using that to illustrate exactly how he believes these officers tased kelly twice in the chest and ties in the flank. to use it to bring him down. >> david begnow from ktla. thank you very much. now i want to bring in ron thomas, kelly's father. tell us what you think of the details revealed today? >> caller: i've known about the details for some time. we just couldn't bring it out or i couldn't bring it out. but they're extremely accurate. they were analyzed by a team of doctors, professionals. we know they're 100% accurate. it hurts me so bad to understand what my son went through. it just really, really hurts me.
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go ahead. >> no, no. you finish. i'm sorry. >> caller: i'm a marshall artist, i'm a master and taught techniques for years to police officers, even marines going to iraq and afghanistan, special techniques. i know what my son must have went through, how horrible it was. the extreme beating that he took. it's clearly to me aggravated murder. >> is that what you think this evidence proves as we still wait for the coroner's report? >> caller: absolutely. absolutely. the damage to him, everything that's gone on to him, it's all very, very conclusive. to me, it's aggravated murder. absolutely. not by all six. they're all responsible for his death. but in different degrees. but at least one brutally murdered him and a second closely involved thereafter. >> so many people in that
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community so angry about what happened to your son. we've seen the protests there. why did you decide to go public with these medical findings? >> caller: well, we need to get the d.a. to do something. they're dragging their feet. the coroner is still waiting for the rest of the toxicologies. it can't take that long at all. it just can't take that long. we need to get the d.a. to do something. it's extremely evident what has happened. you know, it's time for them to act. >> do you still have questions about what happened that night? >> caller: i may have one or two technical questions in my mind. you know, i also just happen to teach investigative techniques. so i do have just some technical questions that i will get answered eventually. but overall, no, i've talked to many people, interviewed many people, i've done my own analysis. i'm pretty convinced of what went on.
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>> we've reached out to the fullerton police department many times. i'm curious if you've heard from themment. sdplk i have heard from them. i taungd talked to the acting chief. >> what does he say? >> it was two or three times a week. now it's once a week. he can't tell me much anymore. they've basically been put under a gag order by the city attorney on this. but they're not releasing any type of details. >> ron, we spend so much time talking about your son on this program. talking about what happened to him. but what would you like us and our viewers really to know about your son? >> caller: very lovable person. i'm looking at the pictures you're posting up there and it makes me real sad. i got to turn around. just a very, very loving person, a great son. his brother and sister miss him
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terribly. his community of fullerton love him and miss him. that's kr they're so mad and angry. i didn't do all of this. it's a community. his community that's doing all of this. they call themselves kelly's army and they're mad. they're very, very mad over this. >> i know you miss him a lot as well. i know the community want answers and we're working towards that as well along with you. ron thomas, thank you so much. i know this is a difficult time for your family. we appreciate you calling in. >> thank you so much. we'll have more news after the break. [ engine revs ]
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the music. every day at this time we'll call out someone who we really think has to put it bluntly screwed up. today it is aaron, march gel a. he's taking heat, he's a former firefighter pardon the pun. for collecting state disability pay. this is courtesy of an investigation from our affiliate in milwaukee. rare on is on disability because he bumped his elbow and suffered nerve damage. if he's in so much pain that he can't work and collecting permanent disable then why is he reportedly doing this? running marathons and taking part in triathalons. divorce records for aaron apparently show that he's getting paid more than 4,000 d a month to not work. that's over 50 grand a year. with all his free time, witi found he trained for and run in seven marathons. this is after he was declared unfit for duty. seems to me if you can run seven
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marathons, you can handle a water hose and climb a ladder. maybe it's just me. here's another reason the guy's career is going up in flames. he reportedly logged his personal exercise routine on a website called daily mile. he bragged about swimming, running and biking and wrote that he taught a spin class. well, once witi started to expose him, seems this disabled firefighter then disabled the websites that were tracking his exercise activity. his daily mile account according to the station is now closed. i don't know about you, but this weekend, i plan to honor the real firefighters. those who risked their lives on 9/11. those who ran into a burning building to save people they didn't even know. but today, i'm calling out aaron marjella. it's time for you to face the music. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills.
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let's check in now with paul steinhauser. paul. i guess you have a preview of the debate tonight. pretty important for rick perry. >> sure is. eight people on the stage tonight at the reagan library. the presidential library. he's got more on the line than anybody else and the most to lose. he jumped into the race for the white house a month ago and now the front-runner in every poll. they'll be gunning for him. he hasn't had

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