and the people -- [ applause ] and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon! [ applause ] >> i knew that was a good moment, because just like everyone there, everyone watching tv felt that, you know, president bush is going to lead us through this tough time. even to this day, going back, you know, looking through the pictures from 9/11 and days that followed, it's hitting me even harder. i can finally digest what happened, because in the moment, it's all about for me, it was all about reacting to everything. i had the advantage of having the camera as a distraction. >> amazing pictures. to see more, go to cnnpolitics.com. that's it for me. thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in tampa.

the news continues on cnn. good evening, everyone. up first tonight, urgent concerns about your safety heading into the 9/11 10th anniversary weekend. additional security at the memorial event president obama and other dignitaries will attend this weekend at ground zero in new york, the pentagon and the site of the united 93 flight in shanksville, pennsylvania. evidence of heightened security is everywhere in new york. the homeland security secretary janet napolitano is tonight asking the public to be vigilant and speak up if you see something. here's what we know about this disturbing jenls. -- intelligence.

american spies intercepted communications from an al qaeda operative in pakistan whose information in the past has proven reliable. in this case, the operative indicated plans for terror strikes, most likely involving car or truck bombs in new york and/or washington around the 9/11 an versery. our sources tell us other intelligence chatter suggests the new al qaeda leader is involved in the threat, which the government describes as "specific, credible, but unconfirmed." what more does this intelligence suggest and how credible is the threat? just moments ago, i received an update from the new york city police commissioner whose challenges include protecting targets in times square. >> we have the u.s. open going on. we have several other events associated with 9/11. we have a baseball game. so it's kind of a -- it's a new

york weekend. we had the u.n. general assembly starting next week. and we will have heads of state come in pretty soon, maybe some on sunday. so it's challenging but i think we'll be able to handle it. >> we've talked many times over the years and in new york city you're always on high alert. what is it specifically this this intelligence that convinces you that you need to go to a significantly higher level? >> when the federal government tells you that it's a credible and specific threat and when we know that bin laden has spoken about having an event close to or on 9/11, those two things come together. i think, you know, it would be imprudent for us not to take all the appropriate measures. >> what do you say to the person

out there, if you can't tell me specifically what you're talking about, why are you scaring me? >> there are credible threats. you know, they have to be put out for the public. you can't sit on it if in fact it looks like there's credibility to it and it certainly does in this instance. so that's what i think is the right thing to do. we sit on it and something untowards happens, people will be extremely upset. >> the commissioner of new york city police ray kelly. fran townsend is here with us. what is the most disturbing or the most interesting new thing you're hearing? >> the fact that the intercept comes from a wire that's given reliable information in the past all by itself would have made the threat credible to them. when you take that with the level of detail, the specificity of it, all that wrapped together, that's unusual.

i think those two things taken together explain the heightened state of concern that you see from government officials. we asked the question, why come out with it if it's unconfirmed. there are three good reasons. one, you need help from the american people because you don't have enough details. two, it's a brushback pitch, you want to send a message to the bad guys that we're looking for you. and the third is the time constraint. >> commissioner kelly said specific, specific, specific. that's why he's alarmed more than normal. how specific? >> it's washington or new york. a car bomb, three men. we know that one or two are u.s. citizens. we have not heard yet whether or not -- do we have identifiers on these people, do we know their locations? presumably not. so those are the sorts of things that lead us to say there's a lot of work that they need to do to be able to put this to bed or disrupt the plot.

>> i want you to listen to this discussion with senator joseph lieberman, the chairman of the homeland security committee. >> this is somebody who in the past has been a source of reliable information. but the people being quoted are not that person. but it's specific enough, the information is specific enough that it deserves to be taken seriously. i'm very grateful that we are. >> and when the information is possible, how worried should somebody in new york city or the nation's capital be? >> that's about as specific and general as the evidence or the intelligence is. those two cities. i would say that people should be alert. i don't think anybody should be panicked. when you -- when an administration comes to a decision about whether to let this information out that there

is something that we picked up that suggests that there might be an attack being planned, they've always got to make good judgment whether to make it public. making it public jeopardizes sources. but in this case, by think it's important because it alerts everybody to be on guard this weekend. and be careful. >> help us understand, because most people don't get access to the intelligence, don't see the reports, don't read classified information. what makes this difference that the administration would take that extraordinary step to say not just a general warning, but to say this is specific and credible, be vigilant? >> you've got a couple of things going. one is we know from documents taken from osama bin laden's compound by s.e.a.l. team six, that he was encouraging people in al qaeda to carry out another major attack on the united states homeland right around

9-11-11. there was some opposition to that in documents we found, so that raises our guard and we were already planning to be in a defensive mode for this coming w weekend. then added the chatter and the noise we've picked up comes something quite specific. some parts of it maybe a little bit hard to believe. but it's specific enough that it's not just loose threats that it warrants the reaction we're giving it. >> you said jus then some of it was hard to believe. hard to believe because it's implausible or hard to believe because it's frightening? >> hard to believe because some parts of the evidence, which i can't reveal, were illogical, if you will. but this is not a field of -- when you're dealing with extremists, where everything is logical. >> even before we knew about this threat, there was a conversation about the anniversary of what is different

in the world of terrorism. what has the government done right or wrong over the last ten years. this morning, the former vice president dick cheney said in the context now of having this specific threat, he thinks the administration, the obama administration, made a huge mistake in his view getting rid of waterboarding. let's listen. >> the authorities are saying that this is unconfirmed but we're taking it very seriously. so i think -- i do think it was a mistake for them not to stay as actively and aggressively involved. >> he's essentially saying, senator, the government might know more if it were continuing to use those interrogation tactics. do you agree? >> i agree in part and i disagree in part. leer's what i mean. we are so much better coordinated and we have place where is the dots with being connected that we know an awful lot of what's going on out there. on the other hand, when we

capture somebody and detain them, i think we've got to be real tough with them. people are experts in interrogation tell me of most of what works is long, persistent interrogation. but i would not prohibit a so-called waterboarding, because i think there are cases, particularly cases where you've got a detainee who we have reason to believe knows about a terrorist act that may be unfolding right now. if we had somebody in our detention who we thought knew the details of a possible attack against us this weekend, i would want our government, with the permission of the president, to be able to subject that person to waterboarding. to get that information out of them. >> senator, thank you for your time tonight. let's talk about that. you mentioned this, senator

lieberman mentioned it. somebody in pakistan, a known al qaeda operative, whose information in the past has proven reliable. which begs the question, in some ways we're grateful to have that information, but why isn't this guy in custody? >> it's not clear whether or not that information was gleaned in person or was it a wiretap, an intercept of that person's conversation. >> if that person is in pakistan, couldn't we assume that pakistan could get that person? >> pakistan is an ally, but this has not been a smooth relationship. secretary clinton was interviewed on the floor of the exchange and asked specifically about cooperation with pakistan. the secretary very gracefully said we are cooperating with everyone to follow this up and didn't say anything about the arrest of the counterterrorism corporation. i talked to somebody close to

the pakistani prime minister who said the relationship is at the worst it's been. >> so this is what you've done for a living for a long time. there are people watching saying credible, specific, but unconfirmed. what does that mean? should i be scared? what does your gut say about this one? >> right now i think what the american people need to do is focus on the unconfirmed. specific and credible is meant to alert all law enforcement authorities to resolve this. the unconfirmed is meant to say you don't have to worry about it. if we confirm it, that's the cue to you to consider changing your activity. not yet. >> appreciate your insight. still ahead, michele bachmann takes issue with rick perry's take on social security. >> i talk with senior citizens all the time. i love senior citizens. >> and the president's jobs plan, too big, too timid or just

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billion. more than half is tax cuts, new spending on schools, roads and bridges and extending unemployment benefits. to sell it, he's focusing on ohio, north carolina next week and virginia today. >> you expect in a time of crisis that everybody stops the political circus and actually do something to help people, to help the economy, to restore some security and opportunity. restore the american dream. restore those things that made america the envy of the world. in other words, you expect action and you deserve it right now. [ applause ] >> let's get some perspective from fareed zakaria. fareed, the president's speech last night, too timid, too bold or just right? >> i think it was just right in terms of what he can conceivably get from this congress.

the projects are clearly designed to be of appeal to the house of representatives. there's a lot of tax breaks, there's a lot of tax cuts. what he's talking about in terms of infrastructure is very targeted. i think i would have liked it to be more bold in one sense. a lot of what the president is talking about is stuff to jump-start the economy or to keep it going, to stop us from going into a double dip. that's all great. that's short-term stuff and it's really feeding the kind of consumption economy that we have by extending unemployment benefits, things like that. but these are temporary measures. we need a long-term investment program in the country that talks about the need to create investments that will really spur the jet strenext generatio growth. >> mark me down as skeptical, but maybe we'll get about discussing and debating those long-term fixes in the

presidential campaign. i think you make an important point about the politics of the moment. let's listen to this little nugget of the president here which is quite telling. >> there should be no controversial about this piece of legislation. everything in here is the kind of proposal that's been supported by both democrats and republicans. including many who sit here tonight. and everything in this bill will be paid for, everything. >> here's this president who said he was going to change washington, who said he was going to be transformational, who was so as per rational and starts by saying there's nothing here these controversial. shouldn't there be things that are controversial? >> it depends on what you're trying to do. president obama is taking a lot of heat because he's so damn responsible. what he's frying to do is say, i'm not going to give some speech that touches a bunch of

causes that are near and dear to my party's heart or liberal's hearts but won't actually happen. i'm trying to get stuff done that will actually move the economy on the ground. because what i want to do is to improve the economy and by the way, improving it in 2012 would be a useful thing for my reelection. >> one of the things you watched for is how do the house republican leaders react. it's interesting after sparring with the president, eric cantor sounds almost conciliatory. >> let's set aside the things in the bill that we can agree on, so it's in the sphere of working together and building consensus and i hope the president can join us. >> is that a reflection that these leaders in the congress know that the president's numbers might be done, but theirs are down even more? >> it's a reflection of the fact that they took a beating after the debt ceiling debacle. whatever they may talk about,

the general public impression is that the republicans were in transition and were willing to put the credibility of the country on line in order to gain partisan political advantage. so clearly there is a strong going back from that. >> so with the congressional leadership perhaps because of that toxic environment, there seems to be an opening about finding a consensus here. on the presidential campaign trail, all of the republican candidates for president say that president obama, the democratic incumbent has it wrong. they call this stimulus deja vu. listen to michele bachmann. >> not only should congress not pass his plan, i say mr. president, stop. your last plan hasn't worked and it's hurting the american economy. >> i don't think that matters much now, because the president is still in this legislative session, but when does the opinion of the leading republican candidates for president start to influence the decision of republicans in the congress? >> well, i hope it doesn't,

because we saw what happened in the debt ceiling debate where usually sensible people like mitt romney started taking extreme positions. remember, these candidates are now competing not in the general election but what is a real primary, even a preprimary, which means you're appealing to the most hard core in the republican party. those are the only ones that are going to show up at the iowa caucuses and places like that. so they're trying to outflank each other in terms of their opposition to president obama. probably that begins to change when you get into the big states where particularly you have open primaries. in those cases you are trying to aim for the center. i've got to believe if you look at the poll numbers, people are very concerned about jobs. they're very concerned that the government is not doing enough about jobs.

they have different understandings of what that means, but i would suspect that this will begin to change in six months but not before then. >> fareed zakaria, appreciate your insight. >> pleasure. still ahead, hillary clinton gives us the odds on her next presidential run.

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the house republican leadership sees room for compromise on a jobs package but they won't get help from michele bachmann, who says the new proposal would the all harm and no good. she is a tea party favorite and a presidential candidate who joins us tonight from the

campaign trail in colorado. i want to get to the president's proposal but i want to talk about the urgent threat we hear now about the potential of a threat on the 9/11 anniversary. you are a member of the house select committee on intelligence. i want you to in as much detail as you can, share with us what you have been told about this threat and do you view it as a credible, specific threat? >> one thing i want to assure the american people, this is a bipartisan effort when it comes to the safety and security of the american people. i believe that the administration is doing everything that they need to do to secure the safety of the people. i'm grateful for that. we are working together, democrats and republicans, and the house intelligence committee is a completely bipartisan committee. >> what makes this potential threat different? what in the chatter makes people think it is more significant, more potential to be real than the other chatter you're briefed about all the time? >> well, of course, without being able to give details, there is a level of agreement in

the intelligence committee that this threat is one that rises to the level that the american public should be informed. i think that, again, the intelligence community is acting in a way to secure the safety of the american people and it's wise and prudent to heed those concerns this weekend. >> let's move on to the president's job proposal. he outlined it to the congress last night. there are some tax cuts in there, new spending in there. tax cuts to help people get jobs. spending proposals to keep teachers and the payroll, after the speech, let's listen. >> tonight, the president, under the veil of one of the most sacred forums, a joint session of congress, delivered one more political speech where he doubled down on more of the same policies that are killing the united states economy. >> and yet last night and again

this morning, congresswoman, your own republican leadership, speaker boehner, they say they see some things they like. they think the president has some things just right. >> i think that what washington needs and what the american people need is for us to find some agreement here and there are plenty of things that we can agree on. >> is your republican leadership wrong? >> well, i think there are areas that we could agree if they're pro growth policies. the problem is, the president didn't have any of them in his speech last night. i would love to see a jobs recovery plan. i would have loved to have seen one 2 1/2 years ago. we didn't even get a plan last night, john. we got one more political speech. the president didn't indicate how much this effort would cost. we're hearing some estimates that maybe another $450 billion that we don't have, that we'll have to borrow and go into debt for when we haven't paid off the

more than trillion dollars that the president spent already. the key last night is that what we saw is the plan that the president already has given to us in the past, and it's a plan that hasn't worked. >> you see it's regurgitation of failed policies. the white house says a payroll tax cut, both for employees and employers, is something that 50 house republicans, including michele bachmann, proposed back in 2010. is this a case of simply because he's for it, you're against it? isn't a piece of this plan something you have supported in the past? >> now what we're seeing is the effect of actually putting it into place and it hasn't worked. that's the real problem. even more than that, it's a gimmick. it's a temporary gimmick. why wasn't the president humble? why didn't he say he was wrong? >> is it fair to say that you say it didn't work. is it fair to say that you think he's wrong now and do you concede when you proposed this back in 2010 it would have been

the wrong idea? >> well, i mentioned with other members of congress that we could look at this as one possible piece of a package. and yes, we -- now when we're in a time of serious deficits, this is not the time to do this. this is $111 billion that didn't go to the social security trust fund. and that's a real significant issue to senior citizens. >> let's stay on social security. you will be part of a republican debate on cnn monday night. you were part of a debate which governor rick perry described social security as a ponzi scheme. is it? >> social security is a safety net that many americans have paid into for their entire life. they see that this is their retirement. i believe that the federal government needs to keep its promise with senior citizens and that's why when president obama made the decision to lower the payroll tax and take away $111

billion, that put senior citizen's payroll or social security checks at risk. >> do you believe a republican nominee for president can carry the general election if they are on the record as saying social security is a ponzi scheme and that they wrote it's unconstitutional, that the founding fathers could have never seen anything like social security, a federal retirement program. can a candidate with those views carry florida, pennsylvania, iowa, arizona, carry minnesota? >> well, of course, the voters in that state will have to weigh in and let the american people -- let the people know -- >> what do you think, congresswoman? what do you think? >> what i think is that america needs to keep its promise to senior citizens. i love senior citizens, i care about them. my mom is 80 and my dad 87. right now we're in trouble. the system has to be reformed but we have to keep our promises with senior citizens.

>> let me ask you, after our cnn debate a couple months back, you were in the headlines, you had momentum. here are a couple of the headlines after the most recent debate. >> in our most recent poll, you're essentially tied for fourth. back after that cnn debate, you were in second place. you had a campaign shakeup. do you feel heading into monday's debate you have something to prove or risk stalling? >> well, no. we're doing very well. we're very happy and very confident with the reception we're getting across the country. there's only been one true vote in this race so far, it's the iowa straw poll. i won the iowa straw poll and it was a stunning victory, even more than people realize, because i had been in that race

a shorter period of time than anyone who had ever participated in the iowa straw poll. i'm the first woman who have won that straw poll. and in the last election cycle, fred thompson jumped in late, and he was polling at 31%. ju this isn't unusual. campaigns aren't settled in a day. this is a marathon and by the way, with our campaign, our campaign is doing very well. ed raulings was with me in california at the reagan library and is my chief champion and supporter. there's no disruption. we're a lean, mean machine and moving forward with gusto and picking up votes and supporters across the united states. >> let me close by asking you a question, you're going to go to the iowa state/iowa game this

weekend. who's your team? >> well, i was born in waterloo, iowa, and i love being back in my state. as a matter of fact, i'll be there later tonight. a woman, john, you will love this, offered to sew a shirt for me. she's taking half of one team's shirt and half of the other and sewing it together. so that's what i'll be wearing tomorrow at the game. >> splitting the difference. safe politics in iowa i would guess. congresswoman michele bachmann, thank you. >> i can't wait to be there. john, thanks so much. great to be with you. >> see you monday in tampa. when rick perry said that, calling social security a ponzi scheme, is he right? nuts? or both? [ engine revving ] [ male announcer ] you won't find the toughness of a ram 1500 combined with the legendary power of a hemi v8 in any other truck.

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anderson cooper coming up at the top of the hour. anderson joins was a preview from ground zero. >> john, a remarkable scene here at ground zero. not only is there work still continuing on the site, there was also a choir practicing for sunday's ceremony with the light fading. it is a beautiful scene here. and if you've not seen the latest on ground zero, it is an extraordinary sight. we're going to show you that tonight. breaking news on "360," new details of the terror threat that put security on heightened alert in new york and washington. traffic has been tied up with imprompt u security checks. and lessons not learned from

9/11. ten years later, first responders still cannot count on life saving systems if catastrophe strikes and a whole lot more. a look at al qaeda and the "ridicu-list." john? >> see you at the top of the hour, anderson, thank you. can you be right and dreadly wrong at the same time? as in, is it fair but maybe a little crazy for rick perry to describe social security this way. >> to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years old today, you paying into a program that's going to be there, anybody that's for the status quo with social security today is involved with a monstrous lie to our kids and it's not right. >> ponzi scheme, monstrous lie. take a look here. if you look at this graphic from the congressional budget office, it stretches out the funding.

as of now, anybody in social security, there's enough to pay you full benefits. but in 2036, if nothing changes, the government will have to pay more than it has. essentially will have no choice if no changes. so it's provocative, even alarming language, but he's got a point. if nothing is done to social security, people expecting a full return on their investment down the road are almost certain to be disappointed. it isn't really the ponzi scheme language that makes perry our new case study in navigating the third rail of politics. he wrote --

>> could perry sell that to voters in an election against president obama? new orleans, james carville. here in washington, nancy pfotenhauer. nancy, can you sell to republican primary voters, you worked for john mccain last night around, the idea that the founding fathers never would have done this. we should not have a social security program. in his defense, he doesn't say apolish it, but he says it shouldn't be there. >> he says the way it's currently configured is it's insolvent and he's correct in that. i wouldn't have used the language that he used, but just as an economist and putting that head on, he's absolutely correct about that. we have young people paying in and their dollars are being used to pay current benefits. there's no way to pay their benefits in the future. that's roughly a ponzi scheme.

it's not quite, because some of that is used to invest in treasury securities. what he should have done, is talk about how to fix it. the way he raised it, left it open to the implication that he would abolish it. >> james, he wrote in the book, and he has said in other interviews, he thinks the founding fathers never would have done this, that essentially this is a states issue, not a federal issue. what's more of an issue as a candidate, calling it a ponzi schedule, which is alarming language in some way or saying that if i were there back in the day, this wouldn't exist. >> well, he also said it wasn't unconstitutional. he takes an oath to protect the constitution of the united states. if he thinks it's unconstitutional, he has to veto all the funding to it. that's the real gist of what he

was saying, that he may think something is wrong, but he thinks it's unconstitutional. he questions the legality of social security. you know, further more, in 2036, they've had to tweak this before in 1983 when president reagan was there. and they'll have to tweak it some now. but the idea that some how it's going broke and all this is ludicrous. and as you correctly pointed out, they'll be able to pay 75% of the benefit it is they don't do anything. they've obviously have to do something between now and then. >> i want to point out, this is 2010, all this red is republicans winning house districts. how did they do that? they swamped the democrats in the senior vote. one more quick look here. 2008, in the national election, obama obviously won, but senator mccain carried the senior vote. my question is, if perry is the nominee and the senior votes are

critical to the republicans being competitive, if the mccain number goes down, if perry is the nominee, doesn't that guaranty a obama re-election? >> no. if he doesn't create jobs, he's lost over 3 million since he came in, i don't think he wins the election. but you are correct in your assumption that perry's comments leaves -- gives an opening, not just to his primary competitors but certainly in the general election. the difference here, and what got lost in his rhetoric, is that he said, seniors and those approaching retirement age, whether be held harmless. >> he did say that. >> this is about changing -- >> he did say that, james. >> i make a prediction. he doesn't believe in evolution, but i bet you his answer on social security evolves. >> i will not disagree with james on that.

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i was going through security at the white house, just as the secret service ordered an urgent evacuation. the staffers were running out, some of them running out of their shoes, the secret service was worried about the changing flight path of the united airlines flight over pennsylvania. the 9/11 heroism of flight 93 is the stuff of legend. i'm honored to be driving to shanksville, pennsylvania as part of the dedication for the memorial of the passengers

aboard that plane. one of them, the youngest was 20-year-old yura bodley on her way back to college in california. her mother, debbie, not angry, but passionately active in the shapgsville memorial effort. >> she was a standby passenger on flight 93. her girlfriend, ali, dropped her off at the airport on deera's request. ali was starting at 9:00. so she said take me to the airport early so you can get to school on time. >> she wanted to catch that earlier flight because she was trying to get back to school. >> she wanted to get back home early too. she needed to get herself ready for her junior year at santa clara university. >> you found out how? >> i received a phone call from

her boyfriend's mother at 7:10 pacific. but i didn't really want to believe her at the time. and i apologized. i wasn't calling her a liar. i didn't want to believe her. then alley called me at 9:00 pacific with big concerns that she was on flight 93. it wasn't until 12:20 pacific time that i received my call from sharon dewitt from united airlines. i was at stella morris, the catholic church across the street from where i worked. >> it is remarkable that you had funneled your energy into the memories and the preservation and the memorial, but not into anger and resentment and retribution. now, it has to be difficult. you're a human being. you have to have anger. >> yes. mm-hmm. >> especially in the early days, you had to have pretty purulent anger. how did you deal with it? >> the anger lasted for a couple

of hours. then i was on the phone with the president of santa clara university, father locatelli. and it was with his assistance that i ended upturning my anger over to god and pretty much let him take care of that side that aspect of my life. and so i could get on with things that were far more important. if i were to think of a way to fill the void that i have, i'd much rather fill it with making a difference in the world than being angry. in's another important day osama bin laden. >> that's the building of the underground infrastructure for the transportation hub. we expect about a quarter of a million people to come through this baby every day.

we are building a site here that's both office and commerce and retail. but we're also rebuilding the memorial -- we're building the memorial of the museum. as you look directly ahead, that's the entrance of the museum, the museum pavilion. >> this box with the air conditioning in it was the last column. >> last column of the original. >> on the site. you can see the number -- the numbers of the police department, 37 people that we lost. as you descend down, there's a set of stairs, an escalator. between them where people would not walk on are the survivor stairs. they were stairs out of the north tower to dc street. so that the people who made it out, many people came down the steps. >> and this was the original -- you can see this is the original wall of the south tower. >> you consider this ground zero. >> this is -- this is the remains of what happened.

the towers came out and the 3,000 people died, this is -- this is their resting place. this will be the national 9/11 memorial. that will be open for the tenth anniversary. >> get it done by september. >> this is the mission of the port authority which is rebuilding the site. that will be open for the tenth anniversary. working here literally around the clock seven days a week. we've got 2800 men and women construction workers on the site. >> this is the north pole around all four sides of the north and them the south as well. the names of the victims. inscribed here -- >> they're physically under here. they're on bronze. each of the pools, 600,000 gallons. each of them is the largest man made pool on the planet. they are in the exact