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now at war we'll take a close look at ptsd, and how to spot the warning signs and most importantly get help for yourself or someone you care about. more than a year in the making, diana nyad's extreme dream. we'll be with her as she attempts to swim all the way from cuba to florida. think about that. plus this, "contagion" we'll have the answer to a question a lot of people have been asking, could this really happen? we begin with ensuring your health care, new numbers out from the census bureau showing the number of people without coverage was up again in 2010 to nearly 50 million. if this doesn't affect you directly it probably affects someone that you know. we want to try to give you some help today. andrew ruben with ligonia medical center and joins know now from new york. welcome back to the program. thanks for being with us. >> good to be here. >> does it surprise you the numbers went up a little bit,
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they say it wasn't statistically that significant. does it surprise you this doesn't go down or it is where it's at? >> it's where it's at until 2014 assuming the health legislation is where it's at. it didn't surprise me so much but sanjay think of it this way. while it only went up 1 million people a lot lower than people expected, think of it like 12 football stadiums filled with people that lost their health care last year. the numbers are still that big, they didn't grow that much because the unemployment rate between 2009 through 2010 was already pretty bad. >> and because if you have a job, if you have cobra it lasted for 18 months afterwards, if you find another job you can get health insurance there. what if you don't have cobra or you can't afford the premium? >> that's a big problem because you know most employer health insurance is subsidized by the employer and when you lose your job and go on cobra you lose
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that subsidy and in the stimulus act a few years ago there was money available to subsidize the premiums so that money is gone. a lot of people just don't have insurance so what they should do because they can't afford it, what they should do is go into the insurance market assuming they don't have a preexisting condition. if you don't you can find a much less expensive deductible. the key is you want to have something if you can get it. if you're one of those unlucky people who has a preexisting condition the option are much, much more narrow. >> along those lines take a quick listen to what something everyone seemed to agree on at the cnn tea party republican debate in tampa this past monday. take a listen. >> the bill to repeal obama care. >> we cannot go forward with obama care. >> i will use an executive order to get rid of as much of obama care as i can on day one.
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>> first appeal obama care in its entirety. >> a waiver for obama care in all 50 states. >> you get the point they're trying to make by that clip. they all want to appeal what they're calling obama care but what is the alternative you know of? what happens to all of the uninsured americans if the republicans are successful in overturning president obama's health care reform? >> hey, listen, it makes for great politics, right? but the fact of the matter is, the country without health care reform, whether you like it or not, we need it to reform the existing system. you can't allow a country of our size to have 50 million uninsured americans. it's dangerous for the economy, and it's dangerous for individuals who really need the health insurance in this country, so we actually must get some more specific and concrete answers out of these republican candidates to actually tell us what they're going to do. consumers need to be able to have that level protection, americans need that level of protection and understanding and we're not getting it. as a health care executive,
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hospitals, doctors, we need to plan for the future. we need to know what health care in this country is going to look like, and right now we don't have any answers. >> there's some tough questions that need to be asked and certainly i think a lot of those folks who are talking about health care are going to get those questions. andrew, thanks much. i hope to have you back. health care was front and center during monday's debate the biggest headline perhaps came after the debate was over. congresswoman michele bachmann went on nbc's "today show" the next morning and shared this story about the hpv vaccine. >> i will tell you that i had a mother last night coming up to me here in tampa, florida, after the debate, told me her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter. >> now representative bachmann went on to say she didn't know the woman and offered no scientific evidence connecting mental retardation to the vaccine but we decided this is a good opportunity to give you some facts. the cdc, the american academy of
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pediatrics, american academy of family vaccine recommend it for 11 and 12-year-old girls to protect girls from cervical cancer. a contentious issue for some time now. coming up on "sgmd" we just marked the tenth anniversary from 9/11. lots of folks are still dealing with ptsd. we teach you how to dial back that anxiety for yourself or someone you love. stay with us. into surfboards? whatever your what if is, the new sprint biz 360 has custom solutions to make it happen, including mobile payment processing, instant hot spots, and powerful devices like the motorola photon 4g. so let's all keep asking the big what ifs. sprint business specialists can help you find the answers. sprint. america's favorite 4g network. trouble hearing on the phone? visit sprintrelay.com. that didn't just hide your breakouts... but actually made them go away.
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ten years after 9/11 and a decade at war, i want to take a look at something we discussed quite a bit on this show, ptsd, post traumatic stress disorder. a lot of you have heard of this, it's he an anxiety disorder some people get after seeing or living through dangerous events. here's the thing when you're in danger of course it's perfectly natural to feel afraid. folks with ptsd feel stressed, they feel frightened even when that danger is no longer present. symptoms include reexperiencing the event in the form of flashbacks or avoidance, worry,
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hyperarousa hyperarousal, easily startled, feeling tense, on edge, difficulty sleeping, eating, concentrating, it is a tough existing, nearly 10% it's estimated, 10% will experience ptsd at some point in their lives. the question is how do you deal with post traumatic stress before it turns into this disorder. bob delaney author of "surviving the shadows." he joins us from bedford, pennsylvania. he's on the ride 2 recovery bike ride from bedford to washington by way of shanksville, pennsylvania. what are you doing and what you're hoping to accomplish? >> good morning, sanjay. we're honoring all of the victims of the attacks of 9/11, as well as riding with the wounded warriors, and we know that not all wounds bleed so
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while there are wounded warriors that have lost limbs and are going through really tough times, there's also folks that are dealing with invisible wounds. >> sounds incredibly inspiring and i can see obviously some of the activity there behind you. now you write about in the book you didn't develop ptsd about 9/11 but a few decades before in the 1970s, young new jersey state trooper at the time undercover trying to infiltrate the mafia, the mob. i don't know how comfortable you are talking about it, i'm sure it's tough but what was that like? >> yeah, what i experienced and it was a long-term undercover job, i thought it would be a six-month job, and it ended up close to three years. what i experienced at the conclusion of it, i thought it was going to be the greatest day of my life when the job was over and probably was the worst. i didn't know what i was experiencing. it wasn't a diagnosis until 1981. i understand peer-to-peer
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therapy as a result. louie freeh who became trektor of the fbi, he introduced me to joe pistone, the real donnie brascoe, he and i were able to relate to each other, that was my first introduction to peer-to-peer therapy. >> really quickly, someone who is watching who is suffering from this, are there some crucial first steps? you talked about peer-to-peer therapy, cops talking to cops, firefighters talking to firefighters, combat spouses talking to other combat spouses, is that the crucial first step here? >> i really believe that peer-to-peer therapy is the first line of defense and keeping post traumatic stress at post traumatic stress and not allowing it to come to disorder. we believe in education and awareness in our society. we did it with hiv/aids and we've done it with alcohol and tobacco. we need an education and awareness program to bring more information to people so that the stigma is not something that causes for people not to want to speak about what they're
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experiencing. >> hopefully interviews like this and certainly your book which "surviving the shadows: journey of hope into post traumatic stress" hopefully those will work to do some of that, bob delaney. thanks so much for joining us. >> well, stay safe. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead this morning, on "sgmd" diana nyad's extreme dream. plus kate wincelet will talk about her new movie "contagion" and answer to a question everyone's been asking me, could this really happen? stay with us. [ female announcer ] lactaid milk is easy to digest.
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few people set goals like diana nyad does. on her 60th birthday she decided she was going to start training for that swim again from cuba to florida. over 100 miles of open ocean stretch between cuba and florida. these are waters surging with currents and teaming with shark. so far it would take a swimmer two and a half days to cross. if you think that sounds too crazy to even consider, then you've never met diana nyad. >> i feel very centered about it. it's going to be difficult. it could be close to impossible, it's going to be a lot, a lot of long hours. >> reporter: just look at that ocean, and emergency swimming in it, for so far and so long. it would be a challenge for anyone, even a 20-year-old. diana is three times that age. she's going to train harder. she's going to have to train better, to even have a chance. >> when diana enters the water, she's entering a very hostile
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environment. >> reporter: dr. ken camlf er is a surgeon who specializes in extreme medicine and he knows exactly what diana's body will go through. >> she's swimming alone, but she's actually in a race. she has to swim to florida before her body deteriorates to the point where she can no longer swim at all. >> reporter: to prepare, she pushes herself farther and longer, and by july 2010, diana is ready for her first true test. a 24-hour training swim. her longest swim in 30 years. if she fails, it means the end of her extreme dream. now, the team gathers. >> my buddy. >> reporter: to meet and to plan. with diana leading the charge. >> tomorrow is a tremendous, important test of me and my confidence, i want to get out saying you know what? yeah, i'm tired and i'm a little woozy and i need some whatever, but i feel okay.
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>> reporter: next morning, she plunges into the ocean. with diana in the water, bonnie stohl assumes command. >> diana don't worry about it at all. >> reporter: best friend. >> one hour. >> reporter: drill sergeant. bonnie will lead an army of handlers that will follow diana's every stroke to nourish, encourage. >> fabulous. >> reporter: and protect her. one of their biggest concerns -- sharks. >> these are great waters for sharks. >> reporter: luke tippel is the team's lead shark diver. he knows just how dangerous these waters can be. >> for these particular waters we'd be looking for oceanic white tips, hammer heads, tiger sharks, caribbean reef sharks. this animal has evolved to dominate the ocean. they have a sixth sense. they can feel the electricity in the water. they know that we're there. >> reporter: and that's why in 1978, diana swam in a shark
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cage. today she just uses this. >> sharks are tremendously sensitive to this. this is actually in the kayak. >> reporter: it's called a shark shield and off the coast of the bahamas tipple shows us how it works. it's a shark feeding frenzy at this block of chum, until tipple approaches and turns on the shark shield that hangs above it. the device emitts a strong and harmless signal that overwhelms the shark's senses and forces this emto the ocean floor. we're now thousands of strokes into her 24-hour swim. a problem. she's swimming in circles. >> you veer off a little and then a little more and you end up in jamaica. >> so after a while i count
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every stroke look at that it boat for hours and say, stay closer, and i drift every time i swim 30, 40, 50 yards that way, we're adding on miles and miles. >> reporter: and that could mean the difference between successes and failure. this woman literally just exudes inspiration. we spent the past year and a half following diana as she prepared to do something no human ever did before. it's our special cnn presents diana nyad extreme dream. last but not least, a real thrill for me. i got to try my hand at acting in the new movie "contagion." virus expert laurie garrett who consulted on the film will join us as well. the question is this, could an outbreak like the one depicted in this movie actually happen? almost tastes like one of jack's cereals.
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the drug ribovarin has shown toen p effective yet homeland security is telling the cdc not to make announcements until stockpiles can be confirmed. >> dr. at that, there are several drugs. >> a new movie called "contagion," a virus that practically wipes out the globe. i'm lucky because i get to play myself and get to be on the screen with one of my favorite actors, kate winslet. i spoke with her earlier from london. i wonder, when you spent time at the cdc and with these scientists and p epidemiologists, what did you take away as far as who they are, what their lives are like? >> they are extraordinarily brave people, and highly
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skilled, highly intelligent and somewhat intimidating, i found them to be, just simply because they have so much knowledge and they care so much about the job that they do. they operate in kind of isolated little bubbles really. it's just them, their backpack and their del computer. and they just have to get on with it it and work tirelessly all hours round-the-clock in order to do whatever they have to do to find that index patient. i admire them. >> i'm wondering, when you look at the world, from washing your hands to worrying about your unsafety, your own health, do you look at things differently as a result of your work on this film? >> yes, i definitely do look at things differently because of having been involved in the movie. i certainly wash my hands probably more than i need to and i've become obsessive about taking shoes on and off before going into other people's houses
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and having people come into our home. it does make you much more germ conscious for sure. >> you have children. you're doing a movie about a pandemic where people will die including children. was it something you were immediately sort of drawn to? how do you go through that process for yourself? >> i did find the story incredibly compelling and also i think very timely as well. you know, we do exist in a world where we are seeing a lot of these superbugs, and in "contagion" it goes one, two, maybe even ten steps further than your common super-bug, but it's something that is in people's minds. we are growing more accustomed to sudden panic. so i'm just like anybody else, you know? i responded to the material that came in in the same way that any human being would, just, like, god, that could happen. my gosh. >> real pleasure, kate winslet, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> sot question i think a lot of
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people are asking themselves is, could this actually happen? laurie garrett is the author of the new book "i heard the siren scream." i got a chance to sit down with her earlier it from new york. laurie are, you were with a scientific consultant on the movie "contagion." you spent a lot of time with the writers and researchers. a lot of people are asking, did they get it right? is this a realistic scenario? >> i think it's as realistic as we can be about something that hasn't actually happened. we're trying to come up with a whole set of facts, statistics, character portrayals, what happens to society, hows all ba hypothetical but well grounded in experiences that i had with sars, with the early days of hiv, with plague in india, with, oh, at least 25, 30 epidemics i've been in. >> you communicate these types of issues to the public a lot. this is your area of expertise. do you think a movie like this
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is helpful in terms of your mission? i know that's not what they specifically set out to do, but does it helper or hurt you? >> i think it help hs a great deal. i think people will watch it and say, you know, there's a lot more at stake of whether or not you get sick, which is bad enough, but you'll see societies fall apart. you'll see the deterioration of the entire uld they thing i comeway with, after eight years of scrutinizing
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every single detail of 9/11, of anthrax and then reflecting on other epidemics i've been on, the impact of katrina and so on, is that we have to get much better at understanding what "community" means and how individuals know their neighbors, care for their neighbors, and recognize the importance of government in their lives. there's a tendency in america today to be very antigovernment, which it's anti-city council, on thety-governor, anti-congress are, anti-president. but in a crisis, it's government that must correctly lead the response. >> thanks for joining us. i feel like i always learn something from you and i always consider it a real privilege to spend time with you. laurie garrett, thanks so much. >> my honor back at you. >> that will do it for sg, md for us. we'll get a check of the top stories from the guy who's the best in the busiss
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