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i'm don lemon. we'll begin with new information about a deadly be crash at a nevada air race. the death toll is now nine after the plane slammed into spectators in reno. one witness called the sound unbelievable. you can see why. >> i'm going to share with you what we know. the veteran pilot jamd jimmy leeward was maneuvering his mustang through twists and turns when something went terribly wrong. as you saw, the plane left the course and crashed straight into the ground. leeward and eight others are dead. more than 50 people, more than 50 people injured. photographs taken just before the crash show a piece of the plane appears to be missing. take a close look. a piece that would have had a major impact on the pilot's ability to stay in control of
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that plane. cnn's dann simon it in reno, nevada for us. dan, the ntsb asked about those photos at a news conference today. the death toll is now up to nine from three. what did investigators have o to say? >> reporter: no question, don, investigators will be looking at the tail of that aircraft. we have seen those pictures and it's pretty certain that at least at one point during the flight what's called the elevator lift tab dislodged from the plane. aviation experts have told me it would be very difficult to control the plane if, in fact, that occurred. crews here have been at the scene today going through the wreckage. they actually went over the lapse if you will to see where exactly that plane went and they did find something on the ground. i want you to listen now to the national transportation board investigator. >> we're aware of that. in fact, a component has been recovered in the area where that
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was observed. but i think it's critical at this point to know that we have not identified the component. it will be examined so we don't really know what the component is or if it even came from this particular aircraft. we're clearly going to focus on that and that's the part of the factual information gathering o going on right now. >> reporter: the question also is approximate about the pilot. was he in fact experienced? he was 74 years old. had been competing in these races in reno since 1975. so experience not an issue here. the question is, was there something going on with this plane in temps of the pilot's health. everything seemed to check out there. i think the issue, don, at this point is that little tab that came off. investigators will be looking at that very closely. don? >> thank you very much, dan simon. we appreciate your reporting from there all day. it has been a tragic weekend for
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air shows. we have learned today of a crash at the thunder over the ridge air show in march continuesburg, west virginia. this crash reportedly involved a t-28 trainer aircraft. our reporter jen clark took these pictures and called the crash very scary. we're still trying to confirm the information about the injuries in this particular crash. but jen was there and she took the photos right before and right after the crash. she joins us by phone now. jennifer, describe what you saw for us. tell us about these pictures. >> caller: well, we were just watching the show and with my family and we saw the two planes passing each other and i took the one picture and i thought it came out good. so i was showing my husband on the view finder. and just in that split second, we saw like the flash of light that caught our eyes and you heard the explosion sound and it drew our attention. it was scary.
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>> i'm sure people were -- it's been all over the news. you're aware of what happened in reno, nevada, before you went to the show? >> caller: yes. >> were people talking about it, were they aware of it as well? >> caller: i heard people in passing during the day bringing it up. but nothing big. >> so you weren't worried? >> caller: no, i wasn't worried. i knew about the reason know thing and it crossed my mind when we talked about going. we didn't have any second thoughts about going or anything. >> what was the reaction from people when this happened in. >> caller: you just heard the whole crowd gasp simultaneously and everybody just kind of went silent and just was watching what was going on. people were getting emotional. hand over their mouths. some people were crying. it was scary. >> this was not near a stand where there were spectators, correct? >> caller: no. it is off in the field. >> do you know anything about,
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did you see the response? did you see ambulances or the rescue folks? do you know about the people who were on the plane in. >> caller: i don't know anything about the people on the plane. we did see all of the fire trucks and the ambulances and the emergency vehicles taking off this that direction. they announced over the loud speaker for everybody to stay they were at and not use their cell phones and stuff like that. they just rushed over and used the water, foam or whatever and put the fire out. and then they just announced that the show was canceled and there would be no other flights for the day. >> imagine, less than 24 hours of each other. jennifer, thank you very much. we're glad you're okay. if you get more information, get back to us, okay? >> caller: okay, thank you. let's talk about this. reno and what happened in west virginia with jim tillman. he's a veteran pilot and aviation analyst with experience driving military and other aircraft. he joins us by phone from
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scottsdale, arizona. less than 24 hours of each other. i don't know if you can see the television there of this new incident, jim? >> caller: yeah. i saw that. i'm concerned that people get this feeling that these shows are just inherently dangerous because we've had two now within 24 hours. understand how many shows, how many weeks and months and what else don't die without this. i don't want to draw conclusions with the proximity. >> listen, i'm getting information that it's not fair, it's not correct, i should say, to call what happened in reno an air show. it's an air race. there's a difference between an air race and an air show. >> caller: that's correct. that's exactly. the air race is a very, very high-speed race close to the ground with aircraft that have been modified to fly much faster
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than they were originally designed to fly. >> okay. let's talk about this tail pin. airlines tail --. the pictures, by looking at that picture, would that have caused the pilot to lose control in the event that happened in nevada? >> caller: well, it's very likely it would. it could have been. that little tab looks innocent by its size and the size of the airplane. but you have to realize what it does is it takes care of the air load on the pilot as he's trying to maintain a certain configuration. it also eliminates flutter which is a dangerous condition to have when you're flying at those speeds and that close to the ground. >> what might cause this trim tab to get damaged, jim? >> caller: i would think, i mean, of course i have no way of knowing, but it sounds like it may have been structural failure.
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you know, that's -- you have to -- the air on an airplane flying at those speeds are extreme. you can call this an extreme sport for lots of reasons, because everything about the airplane and the pilot are being pushed to absolute limit right up against the edge of what it's capable of performing. so if you're going to have a structural failure, you're likely to have it on an airplane in those kinds of conditions. >> listen, i want to say when you were talking about this, you said right away, i don't want people to think this is dangerous. the last spectator death at a u.s. air show or air show was in 1952. again, that was a long time ago. these two are close in proximity. so that's just what happened. listen, i want to ask you about this and what everyone is talking about. they said that the pilot, at least for the people who were there the spectators that he tried to correct, steer away from the crowd. he may have saved a lot of lives. but could his age have played a
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role? he was 74 years old. >> caller: i discount that a lot. you know, if age was a factor, what kind of factor was it? did it mean that he has a reaction time was slow or did it mean that he blacked out or something? guess ha? this gentleman not only able to -- highly experienced professional pilot. that's what he was doing. i also point to the fact that he got off a mayday. if you were conscious of what's going on at that moment. you know that you are in a situation that's perilous. that you're likely not to be able to come out of or could total the airplane in a way that's going to be -- i say, discount the age. i really do. i think age is an attitude. age is a place on the calendar. it's not really a measure of performance. >> and experience does count for something. >> caller: tell me about it. i got to tell you, i'd much rather have that guy in controls
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of my airplane than one that was inexperienced and much younger. >> as i say, a lot of people said he saved a lot of lives because it looked like he tried to steer away. >> jim tilmon. thank you very much. >> okay. my pleasure, don. let's talk about a story that's garnering a lot of attention. four days left to live, georgia death row inmate troy davis will be put to death on wednesday unless a state parole board decides to intervene during a hearing on monday. davis was convicted for a failed 1989 shooting of savannah police officer mark mcfail. he has maintained his innocence and seven of nine witnesses in his case recanted their testimony later. as a show of support for davis, in the streets of atlanta, his case has inspired protests all across the world. groups like amnesty international and the naacp are leading a campaign to save his life.
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the former district attorney in the case, spencer lawton, says the conviction must stand. lawton claims that davis used the same gun to shoot another man earlier in the evening before he gunned down the officer. the officer's mother tells cnn she has no doubt that davis pulled the trigger in both shootings. >> i tell you that he shot that guy before and the casings are the same. i think those are pretty good evidence. >> justice and closure ohm comes for you when troy davis is finally executed? >> i will never have closure because that can't be. but i may have some peace, which i hope for. i certainly need it. >> officer mack fail's mother speaking to our reporter earlier today. later this hour, we'll hear from troy davis' sister and the man who helped him to turn himself in, both of whom believe the state of georgia is about to execute him for a crime he didn't commit. also ahead, the two american
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hikers jailed in iran could be set free at any moment and later, you'll hear from diana nyad, the 62-year-old endurance swimmer who attempted to swim hundreds of miles from cuba to florida. it's a great interview. wait until you hear when i asked her if she's going to try again. [ whispering ] ok, here's your room key,
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let's go now to some stories making news around the world. red tape is all that separates two americans detained had iran from freedom. an attorney for shane bauer and josh fattal says authorities are close to signing documents permitting their release. they were arrested with a friend while hiking in 2009 on the
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border. iran demanded half a million dollars in bail money before considering their freedom. in india, a bombing not far from the most popular tourist attraction. the injured three people at a private hospital in agra. two miles from the taj mahal. police are not sure who carried out the attack. a bombing in new delhi this month killed 11 people. to libya now. the battle for moammar gadhafi's hometown isn't going well for government forces. they had to retreat today after coming under fire in sirte. 31 why wounded. the national transitional council is offering a "final call" for gadhafi loyalists who switch sides or risk being charged are treason. a cnn journalist was hit by shrapnel today from a rocket propelled grenade in libya. ian lee was injured near gadhafi's hometown of sirte.
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all right. for you people on twitter and facebook, anger at the financial industry boiling over on wall street today. several hundred people packed into bowling green park in lower manhattan for what they're call an occupied wall street demonstration. they say they're not going anywhere. joining us by phone is julianne pepper tone. she's a reporter for cnn money.com. you've been out there all day live tweeting. there are reports that there are thousands of people. not thousands of people out there, right? >> reporter: no. the original call was asking for 90,000 people to show up. and a couple of weeks ago, they down played that asking for
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20,000 people. but they didn't get that kind of turnout today. there were several hundred. it's hard to tell who was bystanders and who was protesting. there are about 400 to 500 by late afternoon. >> so clearly, they have a big social media campaign in play here, probably more people on social media than were out there. you were live tweeting, where is that at? >> that's right. been tweeting pictures and the video up on cnn money as well. >> before we let you go, what do they want? >> reporter: well, that's the interesting thing about this protest. they talk about we're going to demand something from wall street. but the demand is the crowd source, the crowd is going to decide what the demand is. of course, when you go by that line of thinking, everyone wants something different. the people i talked to said things as general as overthrow capitalism. some were more specific things they wanted president obama to do. finding a common voice with hundreds of people is difficult
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to do. >> all right. julianne pep atone, cnn money.com has been live tweeting all day. thank you very much. we appreciate it. let's talk more about money, specifically unemployment. the severity of the unemployment problem can't be overstated. young people are having a particularly tough time in the job market right now. in fact, the number looking for jobs is higher than ever before. i want to bring in financial journalist nicole lappin to help us with the statistics. hello, nick coal. great to see you. >> great to see you, don. >> how bad is it? >> it's bad. if you look at young people, that jumps to 20%. if you look at young african-americans that jumps to 30%. what's most staggering about this to me is not the sheer rate of unemployment but look at what we just saw, don. president obama said it during the jobs creation speech. more and more young people are still disillusioned by the job force that they're taking to the streets and protesting.
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they're so reluctant to get back in the game, they'd rather go overseas. >> in my day, sound like an old guy. you got a job somewhere but it may not have been the one you wanted. i got to ask you. we saw unemployed youth in egypt, north africa, this is a major global issue as well. >> major, major global issue. of course, young people unemployed in spain. 40% all across europe. it's about 25%. allot of scholars i'm talking to, not conspiracy theorists stuff. look at what we just saw from cnn money.com. that they are more susceptible to be taking to the streets because, think about it, they are young, they are broke, they are disenfranchised, disillusioned and not only that, they're more susceptible to crime and mental illness, more susceptible to suicide. we're raising a lost generation here. >> one wonders if it's worth it, i'm just saying. to go to college anymore. what ends up happening here is that they keep going back to school. then the student debt keeps on
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piling on so they don't a have a job and more debt. it's an endless cycle. >> it's app endless cycle. 511%. that is the percentage that student debt has jumped since 1999. and you know this. the student body has not jumped 500%. that means the availability of cheap money and young disenfranchised students who are hungry and just ready to keep on going to school are taking that money and we have a serious debt problem here. >> hey, listen, nicole. >> $550 billion. if the students default on their debt, we have real problems. >> i'm up against a break here. real quickly, if you can do it in a few seconds. i hate to do this to a solution. we've depressed everyone. what is the solution? is there a solution besides creating jobs? >> entrepreneurship. remember that young don lemon who wrote on his college application, he wanted to be the ceo or founder of that club. remember that guy and believe in yourself and know your worth.
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>> if you build a bridge, they will come. >> there you go. thank you. >> they will. if you want to do it over twitter, there are opportunities. monetize that. go to companies, tell them you'll do their twitter. >> good to see you back on the network. >> it's a pleasure. no better way to spend on a saturday night. >> with me as a date. i'm sure. thank you. straight ahead here on cnn, the debt toll climbs from a tragic air race in nevada. less than 24 hours later a plane crashes at an air show in west virginia. those stories and other headlines after the break. [ carrie ] i remember my very first year as a teacher,
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let's check your headlin headlinesright now. a man who was once one of the lions of the senate has died. charles percy served in the senate for nearly 20 years and was chairman of the foreign relations committee. percy clashed with president richard nixon and called for a special prosecutor to investigate the watergate scandal. he considered running for the 1976 presidential nomination but backed off after nixon resigned. former senator charles percy, dead at the age of 91. the only daughter of the late senator ted kennedy died. she suffered a heart attack after working out according to a statement from her father's institute. this is video of her from 2009 accepting a presidential medical of freedom on her father's behalf. she was the oldest of ted kennedy's children. in to o 3, she was diagnosed with lung cancer but overcame the disease. she was 51 years old.
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vice president joe biden traveled to pennsylvania to get a firsthand look at the flood devastation. neighborhoods hit hard by the remnants of tropical storm lee. record flooding along the susquehanna river caused hundreds of millions of dollars. biden pledged federal resources to help the victims. let's get more on the weather and that situation as well from our meteorologist jackie jair he is. can people in the northeast stop worrying more about the flooding now? are they out of the woods? >> they have for now. the rivers receded and back in the banks. as we look at the map from the river forecast center, it will show you across pennsylvania and new york and new jersey, all it takes is an inch of rain to cause the rivers to go back up. we'll be watching it closely. as we head into ayala nin i can't type of climate, it brings wetter weather to the northeast. today, we're looking at showers
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and thunderstorms in the mid section of the nation. some have been severe. we do have one possible tornado in grant county. this is in northern parts of oklahoma. storm spotters saw something near med ford that they're concerned about. we'll continue to track the situation. the one good thing about all of this is we're getting rain in texas. hello. how about that. austin, san antonio, and houston and corpus christi. also cool temperatures across parts of the east. we have a number of record low high temperatures today. you didn't get above, say, 59 degrees today in greensboro. temperatures in the east staying about 10 to 15 degrees below average. don, it is feeling like fall out there. do you love it? >> no. >> no? you miss summer. you're a boy of summer. >> 9, 90 degrees all summer, i love it. summer. fall brings on mild depression. tmi. bring you a pumpkin or some apple side der. she was 61 years old had she
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attempted to swim from cuba to florida. endurance swimmer diana nyad tells us what it was like and why she had to bail out. first, bill gates calls it the start of a revolution. the site has tutorials from calculus to chemistry all for free. our education contributor sat down about the voice behind the videos in tonight's perry's principles. >> in a small silicon valley office, he is using sim is am illustrations and lingo to explain math, science, history and even business concepts. >> if this does not blow your mind, then you have no emotion. >> the 10 to 20 minute tutorial are free to anyone anywhere. >> you've opened up the world of learning to the world. >> the best way to get the core of most issues, whether poverty, healthcare, whatever, it's having to -- even democracy is
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lived with a failed dream of swimming from cuba to florida. last month the swim champion about to celebrate her 62nd birthday hit the water again in her second attempt to complete the 103-mile swim. can you imagine? 29 hours later, though, she was again forced to abandon her effort because of strong ocean current an aling shoulder and an asthma attack. dr. sanjay gupta talked with her. >> you quit marathon swimming nearly 30 years ago. what made you want to do this at age 60 no less? >> i'm now 62. a couple of years ago, i'm turning 60. like a lot of people that age, i just went in to for the first time in my life i went into a deep existential angst over age. like my god, i've wasted all of my life and now there isn't much time left to do anything it. that's kind of where i was.
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i thought, you know, i never intended to go back to swimming. i was very happy with my young swimming career, retired as you said when i was 30 years old. many years ago. but i was driving around one day and i thought, you know something, i know something that could give me a kick in the pants. maybe i'll do that crazy swim from cuba to florida that was always my big extreme dream. i thought, no. surely you wouldn't go back to it. but i did. >> sanjay, diana was pulled out of the ocean after 29 hours. what does a swim like to do to a person's body. a young person in their teens and 20s it would be hard. but in their 60s. >> you think about the elements. it's simply being in the water. no matter how warm the water is and diana likes it a certain temperature. but even with that temperature, your body is dissipating heat very quickly. it's hard to maintain your body temperature. burning roughly about 700 calories an hour. even if she ate near constantly during the swim, she would not be able to keep up.
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same sort of situation with the fluids. then you know, you're talking about the other elements, jellyfish stings, being in the saltwater which can make your lips and tongue swell. sharks as diana talked about. all of that sort of stuff. as one extreme medicine doctor put it to me, the race for diana was to get from cuba to florida before her body literally started to deteriorate. wronk correct me if i'm wrong, but in '78 when you made a similar swim, you lost 29 pounds during that single swim. that gives you an idea of the total it takes. >> sanjay, she started hallucinate being. would would make her do that? >> it's a combination of things here. first of all, at some point she's becoming sleep deprived as well. further and further she gets into the swim. she hasn't gotten any sleep. obviously, she's exhausted from what she's doing and there is an element of dehydration. all of those things can lead to hallucinations.
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>> do you remember when you were hallucinating what you were thinking or were you out of it and don't remember, diana? >> i honestly didn't get that deep into it. as a matter of fact, i was terribly disappointed. you probably know and your viewers know that i went into it a pretty severe asthma attack that was an 11-hour seizure. it was extreme on the body. the duress was extreme and it took me down. that was the culprit behind not making it across. honestly, i was looking forward to more hallucinations. i wanted to be out there with the meaning of the universe and whether there's an edge to it all or if it goes to infinity. i never got that far. i feel very cheated that i didn't get to a real mind bending experience. >> oh, my gosh. >> i love this woman. i love this woman. >> right. that is awesome to think that. it's like, this is like what do you call it, runner's high. this is like way beyond that. >> o oh, yeah. >> is that what made you stop, made you get out of the water?
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>> it was the asthma. >> i have to ask you, are you going do it again? >> you know, i've had a deep friendship heart to heart with sanjay about this. there are so many different elements to it. one is that what i left out there in early august was everything i had. you know, there was no more solution to that particular swim. and so all of us who are on that swim, we held our heads very high. but i will say to you that there is no way that i would leave the ending of the story as it is. >> oh, really? what are you saying there, young lady? >> i can't say it any planer, any clearer than that. >> stay tuned i was going to say stay tuned. sanjay, thank you so much. thank you for bringing this story to us. >> it was an honor. it really was. >> diana nyad, you inspire all of us.
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we wish you continued great health and we look for new and exciting things from you. diana nyad, breaking news. it's fun, though. i'm being told that there's a screening party right now in the entire medical unit watching with diana and applauding. so thank you, diana. good luck, tonight, sanjay with the documentary. you can watch his exclusive behind the scenes report on diana nyad's swim tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. only here on cnn. right at the top of the hour. up next this hour, as we come closer to troy davis' scheduled execution, we'll hear from his sister who is desperate to save his life and the pastor who convinced him to turn himself in more than 20 years ago. sometimes, i worry my pipes might leak. but i learned there's something more i can do. now, i take care with vesicare. once-daily vesicare can help control your bladder muscle and is proven to treat overactive bladder with symptoms of frequent urges and leaks day and night.
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book early and save up to 20% at any holiday inn express. stay you. georgia death row inmate troy davis has one last shot at saving his life. on monday, a five-member parole board will decide whether to delay, cancel or go forward with his execution. davis is scheduled to be put to death on wednesday for the 1989 fatal shooting of savannah police officer mark macphail. davis has supporters all over the world who believe he was wrongfully convicted, including his sister kimberly davis and
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pastor derrick johnson who accompanied him to turn himself in. i spoke with him not long ago. >> caller: i am feeling wonderful and me and my family are holding our heads high. i actually spoke to troy about 4:00 this afternoon and you know, he was just so amazed. like when he called me on thursday, we were talking about the 50,000 petitions that were turned in to the parole board and he had watched the marched yesterday on the news. he said it was so amazing to have so many supporters and he just wants to thank all of his supporters. thank everyone that believes in him and also that believe in justice. >> what has your brother told you about the case, kimberly? >> caller: i'm sorry, i didn't hear you? >> what has he told you about the case? >> caller: well, he's always maintained his innocence and he told us he was not the one that shot the police officer. we stand behind that innocence
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and stand behind his word. >> even with the shell casings that were found at another crime scene that matched the crime scene from the officer, you still -- he still maintains his innocence and you still believe him, right? >> caller: the ballistic report that they did receive at the district attorney was out of the office. showed that the bullets were inconclusive. they did not match. >> there was a former prosecutor who wrote an article who said they did match from the crime scene and he was one of the men, spencer lawton, a former district attorney of georgia's eastern judicial circuit. he prosecuted this case back in 1991. row wrote an article in the ajc which stated that. i want to move on and ask you this. are you emotionally prepared if the execution happens as scheduled on wednesday, kimberly? >> i am emotionally prepared as well as troy. because troy said that if the state of georgia does succeed in executing him, they will only take his physical body because he's already given his soul to
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god. >> you know, there's another family involved here, the family of the sworn officer, mark macphail. she positive that your brother shot her son and a man early krer that same night. i want you to listen to this and then we'll talk about it. >> i tell you that he shot that guy before and the casings are the same. now, i think those are pretty good evidence. >> justice and closure only comes for you when troy davis is finally executed? >> i will never have closure because that can't be. but i may have some peace, which i hope for. i certainly need it. >> kimberly, do you understand how the macphail's feel. >> yes. i understand how they feel, yes. i do understand how they feel. my heart goes out to them. because you know, my brother he is innocent. and she said that she will not have any closure. but she won't have closure if an innocent man is executed either. we want justice and justice for
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troy davis will be justice for officer macphail and his family. >> you said the da's office never interviewed you about that ride? did any authority ever talk to you about it? >> no one ever spoke to me about which -- when these many years later i saw on your news network the coverage about his trial, i thought it was odd that no one ever talked to the first person to look him in the eyes, the first person to talk to him. no one asked if, in fact, when i went to get him if he had a weapon on him. basic questions you would think people would be interested in. >> but to this day, have you been interviewed by anyone? have you spoken to police or investigators or prosecutors or anyone? >> not at all. and don, you've got to understand the climate in savannah when this particular heinous act happened.
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it was already racially tense, the community, the search for troy pitted the black community against the police in many ways, which made it a volatile situation. so i don't believe at that time there was an interest in knowing what he said to me. >> parole board meets on monday. the execution is scheduled for wednesday. make sure you stay tuned to cnn. next, musician sting celebrates his 60th birthday. shannon cook sat down with him and gives us a preview. but first, a big hug and kiss, that's what troops get from family members returning from war zones. had today's making their mark, it's not people, but dogs that are making a difference. >> awe, thank you. >> i missed him a lot. this helps a lot. >> these are welcome home dogs at camp atterbury in indiana. they're specifically or specially trained to help
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. a member of the tabs four just announced where marriage number three is going to be. former beatle paul mccartney. he revealed where he plans to wed his fiancee nancy shavelle. it's familiar ground. shannon cooke joins me with the story. where is sir paul getting married? well, first let me say, i love the way you say beatle. that's very cute. very authentic. they're getting marry in the same venue where paul mccartney married his first wife, linda, who died in 1998. it's at the old town hall, a century old landmark in london. another beatle, ringo star was
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married there and liam gallagher from the british band, oasis. we don't know at this stage when they're getting married. but rumors are flying around it might be soon. it might be as soon as next month. it will be a fairly intimate wedding because that venue, the largest room in the venue houses -- accommodates about 100 people. so, don, we're probably not going to get an invitation to this one. sorry about that. >> he's servir -- is that officially a royal wedding. >> i don't think so. >> no. >> that's a milestone, i think, marriage number three. i want you to stay right there, shannon, when we come right back, you're going to talk to sting who's reached a major milestone. we're going to find out what it is after this. [ grandma ] why do relationships matter? [ grandpa ] relationships are the basis of everything.
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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. >> i can't believe this. a rock icon turning 60. talking about sting. happy birthday, sting. turning now oh shannon cook. you were able to give birthday wishes to sting in person after you interviewed him. >> i gave him a very big kiss. >> did you? >> no, i didn't. i wanted to. but i did not.
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but -- yeah, i -- oh -- >> 25 years is a sizable -- >> is this us? sorry. i'm sorry. >> yeah, let's listen to it. >> i'm screwing this up. sting is turning 60 on october 1. >> i don't feel 60. i feel like i'm 40 1/2 in some respects. at the same time, i think i've always had an old head on me. i've been pretty -- serious beyond my years. so i'm kind of used to it. at the same time, on the other hand, i feel very young. so i think there's a balance. i think as you get older, life does become richer. you know, you realize there's a finite limit. you're young, you feel immortal. at 60, you say, okay, there are only a few more years, i should use them as a maximum potential. every occasion should be treated as something special.
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so that's enriching. >> all right, shannon, a little cross wires there. but we get the message. when does he turn 60? >> sorry. october 2. a couple of weeks. >> yeah. >> and he's -- he's celebrating with a very big concert, with a lot of his famous friends here in new york. they're going to sing his songs on stage with him. that should be lots of fun. see more of my rather intimate interview with him tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern, don. >> you sat down for a long time. sitting there with sting, who would think that sting is 60 years old. you think of all of the hits that he's -- and the impression that he's made on pop culture and the world, you don't think of sting as 60, it's been around for a long time. what struck you most about them. >> the thing -- i've interviewed sting before. the thing i like about him the most is he's so eloquent. talking about this earlier. he -- every answer to every question sounds like poetry. he's a true, true word smith, a
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true song writer. it's nice to sit there and listen to him talk. and i hope you'll agree when you sit and listen to him talk during my interview later tonight. >> >> it's amazing. he and his wife are on not long ago, i think it was for the gulf oil spill. i forget exactly what they were on for. but they finish each others' sentences. talking about paul mccartney getting married. it appears to be a great relationship. >> he talks about his relationship too. he says the relationship with his wife onlyets richer as the two of them age together. it's pretty nice. he talks quite a bit about his family. nice to get him to talk about that. he talks a lot about his obsession to touring. the guy does not stay in the same place for more than three weeks really. >> we're at the end of the road here, thank you, thank you shannon cook. appreciate it. audience, tweet us your favorite sting song, police song, whatever. stay tuned for a
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