tonight, she changed the world of music, and she left it far too soon. amy winehouse. nobody knew her quite like her father, mitch. ♪ black >> my memories of her obviously will never fade. she's my daughter. >> tonight, the primetime exclusive. mitch winehouse. on his daughter's extraordinary talent. >> her legacy will be her music. there will be some more, hopefully. >> her demons. ♪ black >> one addiction can follow another. and this is what happened with amy. >> a checkered love life. >> blake came back into her life at that moment, when she was at her most vulnerable. ♪ we only said good-bye in words ♪

♪ i died a hundred times >> mitch winehouse. primetime exclusive. an emotional and extraordinary hour. ♪ and i go back to >> we're all heartbroken. heartbroken. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." ♪ you go back to her and i go back to ♪ ♪ black >> mitch, thank you so much for coming to the studio for the interview. i can only imagine it's been a hideous few weeks for you. how are you and the family bearing up since amy died? >> it's been very difficult, piers. very, very difficult indeed. but the good thing is we've got each other. we've got wonderful -- wonderful family. and extremely wonderful friends and we've kept each other -- we've kept each other strong. and of course we've got the foundation that we're working on. so we're doing okay. under the circumstances we're

doing okay. >> have you been -- i mean, obviously, you knew that amy was incredibly popular. have you been taken aback by the sheer scale of the reaction to her death? >> i have. i didn't realize how popular she -- i mean, i knew she'd sold 20 million albums. but i mean the sheer depth of feeling that people have had for her has been extraordinary. the love and the messages we're getting of how she changed people's lives. i mean, it's just wonderful. >> are your feelings ones of anger, of frustration? just of sadness? how would you describe how you've been feeling since you heard the news? >> i think all of those. all of those. very angry with amy. and if i get hold of her, i'll spank her bottom. but all of those things, piers. you know, i'm very angry, feel very guilty. it's natural. i haven't done anything to be guilty about. all of those feelings combined. >> where were you when you heard

the news? >> i was in new york. i was with my cousin who -- we were on the 47th floor of a tower block in manhattan. his wife and he have just had twin babies. and i went to see the babies. i was about to do a show at the blue note club. it was my debut in new york. and i was holding one of the babies. and my cousin's english. and he phoned his dad to say that i was there, and i spoke to my uncle. and he said to me, how's amy? and i said she's doing great. and as i was talking to him, my mobile rang, picked up the phone, and it was amy's security guard, and he was crying. and he told me that she'd passed away. >> and just to go through her last night, tell me what happened. from everything that you now know. >> okay. she'd had a good day, as most of her days were good days. and she had -- her mom and --

janice and richard, janice's boyfriend, went to see her earlier in the day and she was in good spirits. and she -- it was betting close to bedtime. i think it was about 1:00 at night. and she was singing. and she's got a drum in her room. and she was playing the drum. >> she was on her own? >> she was on her own. there wasn't anybody else in the house. i think her friend tyler was -- he stays with her. and he was in the room underneath hers. and it was about 1:00 and the security guard said to her, you better stop playing the drum, amy, because people next door will complain. she said, yeah, no problem. and she stopped playing the drum. and he heard her walking around for another half hour or so. and he thought she'd gone to sleep. he checked on her about 3:00 in the morning. and she seemed to be asleep. i think he checked her again -- you have to excuse me if i haven't got my timings right. he checked her again at about 8:00 and he saw that there was a problem, and they called the paramedics and that was it.

>> what was your reaction immediately? >> i -- i had incredible clarity, and i wasn't crying. i wasn't screaming. in fact, i was holding one of the babies. and i gave the baby to my cousin. and i was comforting the security guard who -- you know, he blamed himself. there's nothing to blame himself for. again, it was quite natural. and i was comforting him and i was comforting my cousin, i was comforting my uncle. and i was obviously in shock, but as i was sitting there taking it all in, i just had thoughts coming into my mind. amy winehouse foundation, amy winehouse foundation, amy winehouse foundation, music, horses, children. these are the things that were important to her. not necessarily in that order. i don't think children were less important than horses but she loved horses, she loved music and she loved kids.

and this is what was in my mind immediately. amy winehouse foundation. amy winehouse foundation. and she was basically guiding me and telling me what to do. that's my belief anyway. >> did part of you expect this call one day? >> no. not at all. not at all. had this have happened three or four years previously, to be honest with you, i'd have held my haun my hands up and i'd have said fir enough. her recovery, as i'm sure we'll speak about later from drug addiction, was extraordinary. i've been banging on for the last three years that she hadn't taken any -- she'd been clean of drugs for three years. >> so you believed absolutely amy had been clean of drugs for three years? >> she hadn't taken any drugs for three years. >> what about alcohol? >> well, alcohol was a different issue. unfortunately, the alcohol, as you may be aware, one addiction can follow another. and this is what happened with amy. we found that when she had conquered the drug addiction, she then went on to a very positive addiction. she was exercising every day.

she was so fit, incredibly fit. she had a gym at home. and she was exercising for three or four hours a day if not more. >> three or four hours? >> yeah, three or four hours a day in the gym, on the treadmill, on the bike, on the rowing machine. really, really fit girl. and then she would -- then there was another phase when she would buy -- she would buy loads of clothes for herself. which -- and i had to deal with the buyer. she'd buy maybe 25,000 pounds worth of dresses and i'd take them all back. or i'd keep one for her. i'd say what's your favorite in she'd go, i love that yellow dress, dad. >> she's just come back with thousands of pounds' worth of dresses? >> yeah, and i'd take them back. and she didn't even know i'd taken them back. the addiction was going into sofrage's or whatever store it was to buy the goods and the fact i took them back didn't make the slightest bit of difference. >> did you have any way of

controlling any of these addictions that she had? >> how do you control somebody else's addictions? i mean, at the time people were saying to me, well, what you should do -- people who should know better. what you should do is hire a house in the country, big house in the country, so nobody can hear her scream, take her there, lock the doors, lock the windows, and just leave her there. put some food under. how can you do that to somebody? that's imprisonment. you can't do that to somebody. you can't treat people like that. if somebody is an addict, they have to deal with it in their own way. and the only way that the family can help is to be there to love them and support them. sometimes it's tough love that is needed. sometimes it's soft love. whatever it is, the answer comes from the addict, not from the family of the addict. so in terms of doing anything about her addictions, whatever they were, it's not really an awful lot that any family can do. >> in the last few weeks have you had any regrets? you say you feel guilty. but that's a kind of different thing. any parent would in that

situation. but do you have any sort of concrete regrets of things you wish you'd done? >> no, i really don't. our family was, or is an incredibly strong family. and, you know, great example set by -- how far do you want me to go back, from my grandparents and my mother and father, who are both gone now. and we took that forward. and as a family we were a -- we are a loving family. and amy was an integral part of that family. >> every time i've seen you in public since amy died, you've shown remarkable self-control. people have been struck by that, given that you were so close to her. have you had moments in private where you've really lost it about this or have you been able to keep things together? >> i mean, i have moments when i just can't believe what's happened. it's just incredible. you know, even now i -- if she walked in here right now, i

wouldn't be surprised. it's just incredible that a force, her force, her nature has gone. but it hasn't really gone because you know, i'm a firm -- as all my family are, we're firm believers in life after death. and she's right here with us all the time. there's been some fantastic stuff going on as far as that's concerned, butterflies, birds and butterflies and birds. just incredible. and wonderful messages that we're getting. and it's very, very difficult. and in answer to your question, in answer to your question, it's not a question of losing it. i think that crying is an integral part of the grieving process. and i think that everybody -- not everybody. i can't tell everybody how they should grieve, but the way that i grieve -- i lost my mother and my father and other -- is to cry.

i'm a cryer. and i'm glad. because i hope that means i'm not storing my grief up for something else. because amy wouldn't want me to have -- you know, to suffer from depression or anything like that because i just have too much to do. there's so much work that we have to do for the foundation, i can't afford to get depressed. so if it means i'm going to cry, i'll cry. if it means i'm going to cry here, i'll cry. i'm not ashamed to cry. >> we'll take a short break, mitch. when we come back, i want to talk about the early days with amy, what she was like as a little girl. and then the dark days when you watched your daughter self-imploding. ♪ put your house up for sale ♪ did you get a good lawyer ♪ how to do business. in here, inventory can be taught to learn. ♪ in here, machines have a voice... ♪ [ male announcer ] in here, medical history follows you...

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a song that made amy winehouse an international superstar, "rehab." and i can tell for you, mitch, you can almost hardly bear to look at amy singing that. >> i was -- this is a great story because she just had a breaking up with her partner, chris, who was a very, very nice guy. he was a bit of a wimp. and she wrote the song about him, you should be stronger than me. i don't know if you know that. off the first album. and they broke up, and she had a few -- she went on a binge because of it. and she fell and banged her head. and she came to stay with me for three or four days. and her managers then were a couple of guys called nick shamanski and nick godwin, and they said you've got to go to rehab. and they came to my house. and at the time, i didn't think she needed to go to rehab. she just had a breakup with her boyfriend. and you know, and she said, what

do you think? and i said, well, i think you're fine. you know, they tried to make me go to rehab. i said no, no, no. she did go there. so she went to rehab for two hours. and then she came back. i said but -- so she's been away from my house for three hours. i said i thought you've been to rehab, and then you come back already. she said that the guy she went to see, all he wanted to do was speak about himself. it's all in the spong it's all in the song "rehab." "but my daddy thinks i'm fine." and out of that one situation she managed to write "rehab." >> one of the great songs of the last 20 years. >> of the last 20 years. >> i mean, there's a poignancy about the title of that song. and an irony, i guess, that you know, rehab was something that kind of bedevilled amy for years. she flirted with it. do you think she ever really committed fully to rehab properly or not? >> no. no, i don't. but to be frank, i don't

think -- well, i say she didn't. she went into the capio nightingale for three weeks before the grammys, and she said, dad, this group therapy life is not for me. so at 5:00 everyone was sitting in their rooms and at 5:00 the bell would go and they'd all come and they'd all talk about their -- so i said, well, look, just see how you get on. she was there for two or three weeks. and when i went to see her every day, as i did, she'd say, you know, this guy next door, you know what -- you know, his mom did this and his sisters this and his -- and i said, but -- and then i realized, well, that is group therapy. except that she didn't like the formalized group therapy. if anybody said to her at 5:00 we're going to all sit around the table and we're going to talk about ourselves, she'd say, this isn't for me. and yet all she was doing all day long is talking to other people in a similar situation to herself. >> let's go back, mitch, to when amy was born. tell me about you, your family. what kind of environment it was for you all when she was first

out there. >> well, it was -- it wasn't that long ago. it was just coming up for 28 years. and my mother was alive. her twin sister was alive. my stepfather was alive. my father passed away in 1967, age 43. i was 16. so she never knew him. but she came into the world surrounded by all of these people. i mean, when amy popped out, there was about 20 people in the waiting room outside, all waiting to see what she looked like. we'd already had my little boy alex. he was -- i think he was 3 1/2 at the time. so they -- i mean, it was just a fantastic family to be born into and of course -- >> so she was showered with love by lots of people. very close family. when did you realize that amy had a real talent for music? when was the first time? because you're a musical guy, always have been. what was the moment for you when you thought, okay, wow, this is interesting? >> well, there's so many stories.

i mean, the story that i tell over and over is is that we -- she got a scholarship for sylvia young as an actress and as a dancer. and we went to -- >> that's like an acting school. >> it's an acting school. they do music too. but we went to the first show that she did, my wife and i. not janice. jane. we went to see her. and whether the song that she was singing was in the wrong key, but she didn't sing it very well at all. and i remember saying to my wife, thank god she can act. because she had some acting jobs and she was doing okay. and then the following year she said, dad, i'm singing again. and i said to my wife, oh, my god, she's singing again. and this time we went to see her, and guess what? she could sing. so really that's probably from about the age of 14. i mean, i heard her singing before, but i wasn't in the house from the age of 10. i mean, i saw her three or four times a week. but i -- janice and i got divorced when she was 10. so i wasn't there all the time.

but you know, she was singing all the time, and she didn't sound anything out of the ordinary to me. until we saw her at that show. >> and the irony was that she actually left the sylvia young school because she wasn't, in their eyes, performing academically well enough, right? >> well, sylvia will say -- sylvia will say that she wasn't expelled, but she was actually expelled because of -- >> from the performing -- >> for underperforming. >> when she left sylvia young, what was the moment for you that you realized this little girl of yours was going to be an international star? >> we were -- at sylvia young she met a guy called tyler james who was a great friend. he was in the house with her that night. and he introduced her to his management company, a company called 19. and they asked me to come down because she was under 18 and i had to sign the forms for her. so i went down there, and they said, you know, your daughter is absolutely fantastic. and they sent us some tracks. and i'd never heard her sing on a cd before. and they sent us some of the tracks that she'd done. and they were just brilliant.

and at that point i remember saying to my wife, well, this is incredible. but really it was a question of when did this happen? just -- >> you hadn't seen it coming? >> not really, no. not really. i heard her sing. but i mean there's lots of kids that can sing. >> the thing about amy was it wasn't just the singing. she wrote this stuff. she wrote some of the great songs of the last 25 years. where do you think she got that from? >> i'd like to say me, of course. but the truth is that janice, my ex-wife's family, they were professional musicians on that side, too. we're all singers on our side and they're the musicians on janice's side. so pretty good gene pool there one way or another. >> amy obviously propelled into the stratosphere of music superstardom. the first album did brilliantly. the second one exploded. and everything changed. when we come back after the break, mitch, i want to talk to you about the effect of fame and fortune on her life and in particular the effect of her quite troubled love life through

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for 3 1/2 years, something like that. you know, she had said -- and which i knew, you know. and no, that just wasn't part of her life. you know, i mean, it's -- it wasn't our world, you know? so it was long in the past. it was gone. and she wasn't into it. she wasn't into that scene or that kind of thing, you know? she wasn't into drugs at all. so no. it was nothing to do with her life. >> that was amy winehouse's boyfriend at the time of her death, film director reg travis. amy had finally seemed, mitch, to have found proper love with a decent guy. >> wonderful guy. >> was that how you saw it? >> absolutely. >> a force for good in her life? >> an incredible force for good in her life. i don't know where she found him from. because he's like a throwback to the '50s. old-fashioned values. dresses in a very retro, in a modern old-fashioned way, if you know what i mean.

and he's just a terrific guy. and he had a great influence on amy. >> many people say that amy's almost inevitable downfall came after she met this guy blake fielder-civil who became her husband. he's now serving a prison sentence in britain for assaulting somebody. when she first got together with this guy, as her father, what was your immediate reaction when you saw the kind of person that he was? >> my immediate reaction was that he was a very charming guy. i saw him at one of amy's shows. and i knew that she'd been seeing this guy called blake and he'd been in and out of her life, but i thought that she'd done with him because it seemed to me he only wanted to come back into her life when "back to black" started to do well. >> when she was successful. >> when she was successful. and -- >> so you were suspicious of his motivation, really? >> i was suspicious of his motivation, yes, i was. and my suspicions proved to be well founded.

>> people close to amy believe that it was blake who got her from soft drugs like marijuana and so on which she had admitted taking when she was a teenager on to hard drugs, cocaine, ecstasy, heroin. do you believe that? >> well, i don't know about ecstasy. but cocaine and heroin, yes, i do. >> and as her father, how did that make you feel, when you thought this guy that she's in love with, hooked up to, is driving her to this kind of thing? >> i was sickened, and i did everything in my power to stop the relationship, but again, what can you do? she loved -- she really loved blake. >> did you ever confront him? >> oh, frequently. and his family. >> what would you say? >> leave my daughter alone. leave us alone. you're killing my daughter. he would say, well, i'm not killing her. he would admit to nothing. and his family were in denial, which made it even more difficult because we had them to

deal with as well, which was very, very painful and very difficult. >> did they not believe that he had got amy into these hard drugs? >> no. they believed at one point that it was amy that had got him onto the hard drugs. >> when she began taking cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, all this other stuff, did you notice a change in her? >> did i notice a change in her? that's a very, very good question. in terms of her relationship with her family, she was still the loving girl that she'd always been. i must add that my mother died -- i've nearly said at the wrong time. it's never the right time for your mother to die. but blake came back on the scene literally weeks after my mother passed away. >> this is amy's grandmother. >> this is amy's grandmother. and my grandmother -- her grandmother, my mother, they were -- they were just so close. they were as close as mother and

daughter. >> that had a very traumatic effect on her? >> it had a really traumatic effect on all of us. but on amy and on my son alex as well. it was devastating for them. and it's just the timing of everything was just incredible. that blake came back into her life at that moment when she was at her most vulnerable. and, well, the results speak for themselves. >> there were periods through there just from what we read in the media at the time, just it seemed to be spiraling out of control, her life. is that how you saw it? did you fear that you were going to wake up one day with the terrible news that you eventually-d ironically at a time when she was a lot cleaner, but did you fear during that period with blake that this was all going to end horribly? >> yes, i did. i did. i did think it was going to end horribly. and it was a horrible time for all of us. i spent my time not as an old

man fighting literally fist fights with people and scrapping and shouting and arguing. and it made me ill, ultimately. it made me ill, ultimately. and i just needed to -- and all my friends and family, we felt that we needed to protect amy. but of course, amy at the time didn't -- thought what's all the fuss about? >> she was a headstrong girl. >> yes. >> she had lots of self-belief in many ways as well as insecurity. but i would imagine fabulously successful, very rich, and probably a little part of her's thinking, hey, dad, back off, this is my life, right? >> absolutely. absolutely. and how can you back off? how can you back off when you can see this is happening to your daughter directly as a result of her -- i've got to be careful what i say really. because i've just got to remember how it was. he did not force -- blake did not force amy to take the drugs.

that would be unfair. >> but he provided the platform for her to take those drugs? >> so i believe. >> he took it to another level of drug taking, and she became pretty quickly addicted to that kind of stuff. >> yeah. >> so in that sense he's culpable. i mean, he is. >> he's culpable for that, but he's not culpable for anything that happened subsequent to that. i would not blame him for amy's death. that would be stupid. >> although there is an argument that if she hadn't been addicted to the hard drugs for so long the effects on her body, which then led coupled with the alcohol addiction and the fact that she didn't eat enough, and so on, this weakened her to the end. you can chart it to when she was taking all the heroin and so on. >> i could do so, but i don't believe so. she loved blake and he loved her in his own way. and he certainly wouldn't have wanted this to have happened.

>> have you talked to him since she died? >> no, i wouldn't talk to him. i'm not interested in him. >> never again? >> no. and i'm not interested in his family, and i'm not interested in him. we don't want their help with the foundation. we would be a laughingstock if we recruited him onto the foundation. >> has he made any attempt to contact you? >> he says he has, but he hasn't. >> he hasn't written to you or anything? >> no. his mother, in one of the many newspaper articles that she's written since amy's death, she says that blake has been trying to get in touch with me. she's been trying to get -- you know, but none of them have gotten in touch with me. i'm not interested in them. >> one of the worst things for you, mitch, i would imagine is you've had to live this roller coaster time not in private but in the glare of front page headlines, television and so on and so on. and in the wake of all that you've been criticized by people. you know, where was her father? why didn't he save her?

all that kind of thing. what do you say to the people that criticize you like that? >> well, it's a fair point. it's a good question. but i was -- we were there as a family. we were there all the time. although we never -- i never, ever saw amy take any drugs. she'd never do that in front of me. >> never? >> never. we were there all of the time. in fact, once inadvertently i saved her life. this was -- this was maybe four years ago when her p.a. -- i said to her p.a. check her every hour. and he was -- he checked her five minutes previously. then i came into the house she was living in. and i said jovan-v you -- he said yeah, i checked her five minutes ago. i said i'm going to go up and give her a kiss good night and then i'll go. i went and gave her a kiss good night and she was having a fit on the bed. we called the paramedics. and it was all resolved. we took her to hospital. she woke up in the hospital. and the first thing she said to

me was, i'm hungry, dad, can you go out and get me some kentucky fried chicken? so that's the kind of girl she was. that was a fluke because giovan was not due to check her for another 55 minutes. and had he have waited 55 minutes that would have been it then. but at that point i could have honestly have held my hands up and said, fair enough, that's fair enough. she was very ill. she was taking an inordinate amount of drugs. and i don't know how she survived. it was because she was so strong that she somehow managed to survive. and to make this amazing recovery, which she did. and i use the word recovery -- >> i want to come to this. just hold that thought. we'll come back after the break, talk about the recovery, then talk about the catastrophic performance in belgrade when she tried to launch this tour and was a shambles on stage. and that was the beginning of the sequence of events leading up to her death. we'll come back to that after this break.

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♪ we only said good-bye with words ♪ ♪ i died a hundred times ♪ you go back to her ♪ and i go back to ♪ i go back to amy winehouse singing "back to black." i can see how difficult it is for you, mitch. and again, i'm sorry you have to see these images. it must be so painful for you. that's how she'll be remembered, i guess. i read a very poignant thing

from tony bennett, who we'll talk about in a moment, sang one of the last songs with her. and he was quoting i think somebody else. but he was saying there's this phrase, that she sinned against her talent. do you see it like that a bit, that she sinned against her talent? that it is in the end just a terrible waste of a fabulous talent? >> i can't say. sinned against her talent. i don't know what to say to that. what happened was an accident. she didn't take her own life. it was an accident. there weren't -- it's been proven that there were no drugs involved. >> i don't think he meant on the night itself. i think he meant the self-destructive pattern of behavior over a period of time. >> i mean, she wasn't -- you could say her behavior was self-destructive. she wasn't self-destructive. i mean, at no point did she ever indicate that she wanted to stop living. she had everything to live for.

she had a wonderful family. she wanted to have children. she had a wonderful boyfriend. and i'm sure that they would have gone on to get married and have a family. >> she was happy, she was in love, she'd been clean of drugs for three years. you talked before the break about her genuinely enjoying this recovery. did you feel secure with her recovery? did you feel it was a genuine one? or were you still very concerned? >> well, i was concerned, but we had -- i could draw on the experiences that we had with the recovery from the drugs. what she did as far as the drugs was concerned was incredible. she stopped taking drugs. she went on to subutex, which is a substitute for heroin, then she weaned herself off the subutex. it was almost unheard of. she stopped take subutex about 18 months ago and she was completely clean. >> so she had extraordinary self-discipline if she wanted to. >> incredible self-discipline.

incredible self-discipline. >> was the achilles' heel alcohol in the end? >> well, it clearly was. it clearly was. >> and how bad an addiction was that for her after the drugs? >> well, alcohol is far more dangerous than drugs are anyway. as you probably know. it's far worse for you, if that's the right expression. and the withdrawal is very difficult. far more painful and far more debill -- put my teeth back in. debilitating. the withdrawals themselves are debilitating. she would drink for two or three weeks, and then she would detox for two or three weeks. and that's the worst thing anybody could do because she would detox not under medical supervision and her doctor very specifically told her about six months ago, and he wrote to her and she wrote a copy to me as well, the doctor, and she said that if this behavior continued, the binge drinking and then the detoxing, that could lead to seizures, which ultimately could lead to death.

this was what the doctor said. and i guess she was like any other 27-year-old who thinks that smoking's not going to kill you, they're going to live forever. and she chose to ignore the advice because she had just come off of the back of a two-week very successful detox period. >> had she been drinking the night that she died? >> she had started drinking again, yeah. >> do you know how much she had that night? >> i have no idea. i wasn't there. i was here. >> the results came back. she was certainly clean of any drugs. >> that's right. >> but it would appear that she had been drinking alcohol. is that -- >> there was alcohol in her system, yes. >> and do you know what actually killed her? >> we're still -- we know it's not drugs, but we don't know the official coroner's verdict. >> do you have any instinct as to -- >> well, my instinct is that it's pretty much what the doctor warned us about. the chemical imbalances in the body that are created by

bingeing and then sustenance, it creates imbalances -- >> she was tiny. >> she wasn't that tiny. >> here's the extraordinary thing, mitch. because if you remember the sequence of events, i'm sure you remember it all very clearly, but she did a gig in london at the hundred club. i think you went to this. >> wonderful. >> it was a fantastically successful gig. and on the back of it you and the management all got together and said great, she's up for this tour, she had a european tour, she looks like she's on top form again. that was what the media reported. the buzz around amy was great. you tweeted at the time, don't worry about amy, she's fine. the tour starts in belgrade. and i will declare an interest here because my brother-in-law, my wife's brother, was amy's sax player in the band, had been for years, loved her very dearly. and i've seen the video footage of that night, and it was a catastrophe. i mean, just a shambles. it must have been doubly so because you'd seen her performing brilliantly two weeks before. what happened in belgrade, do you think? >> when the tour was booked, it

was booked -- i mean, obviously, these things are booked nine months previously. and we sat -- amy and i sat with ray, her manager, and we said, do you want to do this, amy? she said, i am desperate to go back to work, dad. i'm desperate to go back to work. please, let me go back to work. and ray and i looked at each other and said she wants to go back to work. you know, what can we do? let her go back to work. but i think it was the pressure of -- i think it was the pressure of having all those dates in front of her. >> all those dates ahead, yeah. >> which she wanted to do. nobody -- i can assure you, i didn't force her to do them. ray, her manager and the record company never forced her to do anything. if anybody had forced her to do anything, she'd just laugh at us all and she would just run away from it. she wasn't the sort to be forced into anything. she wanted to do it. >> let's take another break. i want to come back and talk to you about the amy foundation that you've set up, what it's all about, who it's designed to help, and how our viewers can help you. >> thank you. ♪ i go back to black

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they need. >> this is for people who can't pay. >> and how far advanced is the foundation now? >> well, as far as the foundation is concerned, we're more of a lobbying group at the moment. we're going to see andrew lanzby, the secretary of state, when i get back in a couple weeks' time. the government themselves want to change the way things are being done. it's a question of reallocating the way that funding is given from the government to the nhs. it goes through an organization called the nta, national treatment association. and basically, they're getting it all wrong. and the way that they deal with it is to incentivize people that are in prison to reduce their prison sentences. so in other words, they're sending people like blake, for instance, who's been to three residential rehabilitations as an inducement to reduce his prison sentence. and somebody who's not a criminal hasn't got that advantage. >> people who are watching this, if they want to help, they want to get involved with this foundation, what's the ease crest way to est

way to do that? >> well, the easiest way is to go on to www.amywine howehousefoundation.co.uk and donate. but that's only one aspect. the other aspects is we're helping hospitals, children's hospitals. i'm working with a small charity called sxhoepz dreams who send six terminally ill children away with their families somewhere like disney-world every year. and it's these smaller charities that we aim to help. and we aim to dot same thing in this country as well, in the u.s. as well. >> we'll take a break, mitch. when we come back, i want to talk to you about your own personal favorite memories of amy, when you've had time to look back over her career and her life and stuff, what are the memories you remember most fondly. ♪ my body and soul ♪ when your chain of supply

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♪ i gladly surrender ♪ myself to you ♪ body and soul that was amy's last recording, a duet with tony bennett, "body and soul." and that's going to be on one of tony bennett's new albums, "duets 2."

quite an honor for her. he's talked pretty eloquently since she died about her amazing talent. i imagine that song's going to be huge when it finally gets released. what for you, mitch, is the great memory of amy? either professionally or personally or both. >> well, the great memories are seeing her on stage for the first time. but my great memories, the last -- i went away on the friday to new york, as i say. i had a show the following monday at the blue note. and on the thursday she phoned me up. she was so excited. she phoned me three times a day every day. even when she was at her worst with the drugs, she phoned me three times a day. and it was always, dad, dad, dad, dad. what is it, darling? she said, i've just found a bundle of photographs, a box of photographs, it has nan in it, there's your dad, there's alex when he was a little boy. and i went round the room, we were going through these photographs together. my memories of her, obviously, will never fade.

she's my daughter. but the love that she had for her family and her friends. and there's so much more that we can speak about but we don't have the time. and her generosity. that's what i'll remember most, her generosity. >> i'm told she had a great sense of humor. >> fantastic. >> that it was laugh a minute with amy. and i have this impression of -- there's this impression of her that she was this depressive character. that was never the case. >> never. >> she had some ups and downs in her life, but she always remained a great cheery force to be around and a funny girl and everything else. i mean, you must -- you must miss her terribly, right? >> we're all heartbroken. heartbroken. >> what do you hope her legacy will be, mitch? >> her legacy will be her music. hopefully, there will be -- hopefully, there will be some

more music. i don't think there's a great deal to come. there will be some more, hopefully. and her foundation. her foundation is going to help thousands and thousands of children. and what better legacy could you want than that? >> she was one of the greatest talents i've ever seen. as a singer/songwriter, i mean to me the best britain's produced since sort of elton john days. and you know, i think that the legacy will be the amazing music. i also think that your interview today will stand as a great legacy to amy winehouse because she had the love of a great father. and i don't think there's anything more you could have done. and people that criticize you should just shut up because they don't know the half of it and you tried everything you could. and you have my deepest sympathy. you really do. >> thank you. >> good luck with everything, mitch. >> thank you, piers. >> thanks very much for coming in. in. >> pleasure. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tragedy at an air race in reno, nevada.