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they're all being relived today in the los angeles courtroom. the jackson employee who pick up the phone and called 911 has be testifying. he says dr. murray told him to gather up all the different drug vials around jackson's bed before asking to call for help. >> i believe that dr. conrad murray had the best intentions for mr. jackson, so i didn't question his authority at the time. i knew it was a medical emergency, so i proceeded to follow up on mr. conrad murray's instructions. >> what did you think these items were being packed up for, if anything? >> i thought we were packing to getting ready to go to the hospital. >> let's go straight to los angeles live. ted rollinss and dr. sanjay
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gup gup gupta. ted, we saw alberto alvarez, he described dr. murray pushing down on michael jackson's chest with his left hand, telling alvarez they needed an pla ambulance. he says two of jackson's children came into the room. watch this exchange. >> paris screamed out "daddy." >> when you heard paris scream out daddy, was she describing? >> yes, s cry something. >> yes, sir. >> did you escort the children out or indicate to them to go out of the room? >> yes, sir. dr. murray said don't let them see their dad like this. don't let them see their dad like this. and i proceeded to turn around to the children and kind of ushered them out and said, kids, don't worry, we'll take care of
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it, everything is going to be okay. >> also today in the courtroom, prosecutors played the call alvarez made to 911. ted rollinss, i know being in the courtroom, you're looking at the jackson family, how did they react to the news of paris and her crying that day? >> reporter: well, i could see la toya jackson and she dropped her head and looked down. and all along the line, every time the kids come up in any fashion whether a photo or testimony regarding them, you can feel it. you can feel it with everybody in the courtroom because you're taken back there, it is on so gripping this testimony. and when the kids come into the picture, it really changes it in an instant and becomes very emotional inside that courtroom. >> sanjay gupta, from a medical perspective, what do you make of dr. murray's actions as i mentioned, pushing down on michael jackson's chest and then pulling the i.v. tube from his leg. does that make sense to you?
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>> there's a couple thing has come to mind. first of all, the way that the cpr was described to me, and keep in mind he's a cardiologist. that's what i've heard. he's pushing down with his left happened only on the chest and he's doing it while michael jackson's still on the bed on a soft surface. two problems. first of all, there is a very standard cpr technique and anybody who has taken the basic training knows this to actually use both hands and also you have to use the person on a hard surface otherwise you're not getting chest compressions. so that was -- it was surprising, it was inspectual. and frankly someone who was not trying to save the person in part because maybe they already thought that the person was not alive ori i don't know. with regard to the sharing of information, pulling the i.v. out, first of all, you may need
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on the i. vi. why you would take it out again, both those seems seem illogical, they don't make any medical sense. >> so imlodllogical. ted, what about the vials alva says described he was told to gather up. do we know what happened to those vials? >> reporter: yes, they turned up later after the police went back, the coroner investigators went back following murray's interview with the police. he he told them, hey, my bags, my doctor bags are in the closet in michael jackson's room. so they were recovered and they are part of the evidence. the other thing that alvarez said that he did was take down an i.v. bag and that was recovered and shown in the courtroom today. >> ted, one more for you, but sanjay, alvarez testified that michael jackson was wearing a catheter. and i know this time yesterday,
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you were talking about your defense sources and they said i think the phrase yol gi was that michael jackson was playings possum, that that they believe he injected himself with that fatal dose of propofol. if that was the case, would he be able to physically do that if he was wearing this catheter? >> well, as i've been saying to a lot of the questions, brooke, possible but not likely. you know, a lot of these things are so strange that you really have to sit down and think i never heard of this before, so the question is it possible, perhaps. but it's very unusual, very unlikely. i'll say one thing about that when someone high school a catheter like this, part of the reason they have that is because of the anticipation that the person is not going to get up and they can't walk to the bathroom, which is why they get the catheter. so you see the reason why. but it is possible someone could in fact carry the bag as well as the tubing and walk somewhere. patients do that sometimes in
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the hospitals. but again, it's an unusual situation. >> ted, i'm assuming that they're on lunch break. what is coming up the rest of the afternoon inside that courtroom? >> reporter: well, alvarez will be on the stand for a while because the defense is really going after him now in their cross-examination trying to disrupt his time line and trying to prove to the jury that there is no way that key have collected all these vials before calling 911. there's basically a minute and a half to two minutes for him to escort the kids out and collect all the stuff. and then we expect to hear from michael jackson's personal xhef and she'll give us more testimony about the children because she took over taking care of those kids from when alvarez got them out of the room. >> hmy thanks to both of you. we'll keep a close eye at what's happening in that courtroom. now this.
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>> corporations should not run the government, so we're here to get that out there. students unemployed, middle class, upper class, we've seen a lot of different americans showing up a the these occupy wall street protests the last couple of weeks. what keeps them going? we'll go live to the symbolic home of corporate america next. also take a look at this view. certainly not what i goat look at out my office window. 555 feet off the ground. hear from one of the engineers tasked with scaling the washington monument. and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. at our kearl project in canada, we'll be able to produce these oil sands with the same emissions as many other oils and that's a huge breakthrough. that's good for our country's energy security
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four engineers repelling down washington monument again today inspecting it for signs of damage from an earthquake that rattled the east coast last month. their structural check has given us some amazing new views. take a look at how it looks some 500 feet there above the national mall. there you see the capitol building. this is what the civil engineering seem sees as they check every single stone of this iconic landmark. look at the view down. this is one member of the crew getting lowered along the stone's strugt. and national park service structures tell us the team did find loose mortars, groutsing and cracks. they have completed the exam of the tip top and now they have to check all of the sides. >> the team also did a quick survey of the rest of the monument, but that quick survey was nothing more than a quick survey. they need to continue examining all of the stones at close
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range. >> we actually had a chance to speak with one of those engineers. here's what she said. >> it's incredible not only because of the actual history of the structure, but the area and being -- the view. and just knowing what you're doing and seeing what you're seeing after the earthquake. we have the drawings from repair from 1999, so we're noticing right now we've only seen a few -- i've only seen a few cracks that weren't there in 1999. but we've only done a small portion of the structure at this point. so there's still a lot to go. >> parks officials tell us it will take weeks to inspect the entire washington monument. coming up, we'll take you live to the wall street demonstrations. hundreds of folks staying right this. why are they will? what's their message? is there a leader? we'll talk to dr. west coming up next. and we switched to fedex 'cause a lot of their packaging contains recycled materials.
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checking today's top stories. if you have $27 million to do your job, do you think your boss might make you keep track of every single penny, right? a new report from the special inspector general says that's how much money went to law firms handling the wall street bailout contracts just a couple years ago, but they didn't give "adequate support" for expenses they charged the government and that led to the treasury department overpaying in some cases. and take a look, this is columbus, ohio, a building collapses. we're told it was an old manufacturing building that was already being demolished when
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something wepts wrong. two workers were hurt, but we're told they will be okay. and bank of america starting to charge extra for customers who use their bank card as a debit card. 5 buck as month. won't matter how many times your your card. $5 plat monthflat monthly fee. it will not apply to atm withdrawals. they can only charge 2 1 cents o a star that accepts your card as a payment. and a lawsuit has been filed in the listeria outbreak. the family of an oklahoma man who died last month after eating cantaloupe is suing for the contempt natured fruit. according to the lawsuit, william beach ate cantaloupe in early august and then got sick several weeks later just
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outright collapsed on the kitchen floor. he died during a second visit to the hospital. more than a dozen deaths have been linked to the bacteria in these cantaloupes. now this. this law was never designed to hurt fellow human beings. as a physician, i would never ask a sick person if he or she was legal or illegal. >> the toughest immigration law in the land a judge says parts of it cannot stand. but other parts can. we'll walk you through what this means for people working, living or just passing through alabama. and then take a good close look here. what do you see? we've all sort of marinated over this one today. this is not your average vacation smap shot, folks. when you hear where this photo was taken, it might give you goose bumps. plus we'll take you live to wall street where the occupied wall street protests continue. we'll talk to professor west on the other side of this quick commercial break.
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during protests on wall street. today day 13. the pepper spraying incident was captured on this video saturday posted online. now new york police in the manhattan prosecutor's office are announcing separate investigations into why pepper spray was used. these protests began almost two weeks ago now under the name occupy wall street. professor west, i know it's loud, i'll try to speak up for you. before we talk about the demonstrator, just a question for you. you said you hope this sparks a democratic awakening. an awakening of what exactly? >> yes, sister brooke? >> can you hear me?
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i'm blessed to be here. they are taking a stand for justice in the face of the agreed of wagreed of wall street. they're concerned about poor children, they're concerned about working people, they're concerned about a sub line thing. there's a whole lot of love here, a whole lot of warmth here and being able to be here with them is a blessing for me. and think about it, 100 of these precious brothers and sisters arrested and not one person arrested given krim behavior of the market manipulation the insider trading, the fraudulent being different of the wall street. the best of america has always been the empowerment of those called every day people, that's why it is a blessing for me to be here. just look at all these beautiful faces here. >> colonernelcornell, let me ju. why protest now, why not three years ago at the collapse? >> wonderful question.
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you never know when the spirit will hit. you never know when a movement arises and it's not a movement with one leadership or two leaders or three leaders. it is spontaneous and instantaneous coming from the hearts, minds and souls from the people of all colors. it's hard to know. rosa parks, who knew? you don't know. what is taking place is the fall in response to the arab spring. here, l.a., boston, atlanta, dallas, chicago, and other places. >> cornell, you had mentioned a number of concerns among these different demonstrate toordemon. part of the krichl criticism i heard is it lacks a leader, you see get me job signs, anti-death penalty signs. a lot of people say they need one message. >> sister brooke, my dear brother howard used to say dissent is the highest form of patriotism. when you're bearing witness to
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truth, bearing witness to justice, you're doing it in the name of something bigger than you, country as well as humanity. that's what kept this country free and democratic, that's the only thing that will keep this country free and democratic. this kind of witness bearing, bringing all people together with the love, with the justice, realizing justice is what love looks like in public. that's what you're seeing here today. >> cornell, i know this is day 13 and i've read hundreds of people have not left there. eating, sleep, staying there all to make a point. have they gotten any kind of reaction from any of the executives, anyone from wall street? did we lose him? we lost him. cornell west in the midst of the demonstrations along wall street for occupy wall street. we will have susan candiotti there, she is covering the protests. she'll bring us a live report next hour. meantime, this. >> it would not have been necessary to address this problem if the federal government would have done its
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dozens of students, this is the university of alabama, protesting after the ruling came down yesterday. the student newspaper there quoting the president of students for democratic society as saying that the law is "hateful and raisist." but the alabama governor suggests enforcing the law is more important as his oath as a physician. >> this law was never designed to hurt fellow human beings. as a physician, i would never ask a sick person if he or she was legal or illegal. but as governor of this state, it is my sworn duty to uphold our laws and that's what i intend to do. >> so let me run new this with you. these are the four sections of the law blocked by that federal judge. banning illegal immigrants from knowingly applying or performing work. banning people from concealing, harboring or transporting illegal immigrants.
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prohibiting employers from taking state tax deduction for wamgs paid to an illegal immigrant. and the fourth, banning illegal immigrants from enrolling at alabama colleges. let's go live in alabama to court reporter brian lawson. he's written extensively about this law here. and a myriad of headlines. my question -- >> i'm sorry, i'm having a little -- >> brian, can you hear me? >> just having a little trouble. sorry. >> stay with me. if you can't hear, wave really big and i'll stop talking. but my request to yquestion to supporters of this law, is it a win or a loss? >> for supporters of the law, it's certainly a win. i think the feeling was going into the court's decision yesterday, that she would adhere
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similar tlly to what other cour had done. >> this law still extends further than arizona's or any other law of this nature that's passed, does it not? you can just talk about the different pieces of the law that still stand? >> sure. there's still -- they've emphasized this, that they want to touch every part of an illegal alien's life to quote one of the sponsors. that means school registration, there's a system now to track immigration status for new enrollees. it means when you're stopped on a traffic stop, they can check to see what your immigration status is. if you're somebody who is here unlawfully and you don't have papers, you're look at being arrested for that. there is provisions that deal with contracts. you can't enter a contract with an illegal immigrant. so in other words, there's a lot
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of agreements that could go away or be, you know, wiped out and i think people are left wondering how is this going to work. one other example, there's a ban on illegal immigrantses doing business, having business transactions with governments. so, for example, municipal water system, they could be looking at checking citizenship and i think that's coming. i think most everybody -- excuse me. >> i was going to ask, how do they enforce these different provisions? >> well, a lot of it has to do with documents. and an awful lot of that has to do with either driver's licenses or passports. if you're here legally, you've got some piece of paper that indicates it may be a hassle, but you've got some options. i think the difficulty from what a lot of the plaintiffs have argued is that immigration status isn't as simple as one piece of paper. oftentimes you're between
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decisions and on which tftentim legal case that hasn't been decided but no piece of paper that says i'm in limbo, leave me alone. >> we've seen over the last couple of months these images of people protesting. is this a done deal, brian? >> no, in fact, this afternoon just around lunchtime, one of the larger groups of plaintiffs has filed both a notice of appeal and a request to the court that they stay the law pending the outcome of that appeal. so, no, not only is it not done immediately, i think the expectation is since there's a different law in arizona that was blocked, different but similar, you've got two circuit courts with two different decisions on similar law. at that ipts for the supreme court tends to come in. >> but given the way this federal judge in birmingham, alabama, how she ruled, what
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kind of message, though, do you think this sends to other states potentially? >> i think it's wide open. what the judge argued yesterday in her decisions and this is a pretty important point was that in following the will of congress, states do have a role to play in immigration law enforcement. up to now, the justice department has argued and the courts have sided with them on the idea that immigration law enforcement is primarily a federal government function. >> brian lawson of the huntsville times. she's following the federal law certainly. we'll continue this conversation, would he folle'll through. thank you so much. shortly after 9/11, our country was hit with another scare. letters containing the white powder, anthrax. five people died, dozens got sick. joe johns has a look at the anthrax letters and we'll get a
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and americans had this new fear of the u.s. mail. joe johns is looking into what we learned from that frightening time with this documentary that will air sunday. and, joe, who could forget people didn't want to open their recei letters and it took the government quite a while to hone in who did this. >> it was terrifying. the country had been talking for a long time about the possibility of a biological attack, but really wasn't prepared for it when it actually happened. and if you believe the government's case against their prime suspect, dr. bruce ivan, they suggest he was hiding right under their noses. took them a long time to figure that out even though someone gave them the suspect's name in the early moments of the investigation. it took the federal agents years to track that lead down. >> reporter: when the anthrax letters hit in october 2001, in
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an snancy haywood specialized i hiv. a few months after the attack, january 2002, the fbi e-mails the micro by sole iology men me. >> this my mind, it was as though something which i canned. >> reporter: who did you think of? >> bruce ivans. >> reporter: a scientist at the u.s. army medical research institute for infectious diseases, ft. detrick, maryland. ivans is apexpen expert on aptn and supposedly helping federal agents. >> he was in the thick of it. >> reporter: what the feds do
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not see is the hidden side of bruce and i vaivan, e-mails whe says i'm being eaten alive by paranoid delusional thought. >> bruce ivans has led a double life. >> reporter: sigh tr psychiatri describe him as a rage filled man. >> it was a guy who had a definite dark side to him that no one else knew about. >> i met bruce in chapel hill, north carolina. >> reporter: it was the mid-70s. nancy haywood was a graduate student at the university of north carolina. bruce ivans was there, too. ivans asked in-says santaly about haywood's sorority. he seemed obsessed. >> every time i talked to him, he would mention it. and finally i said, bruce, that's enough. >> reporter: as their careers took shape over the years, ivans kept in touch.
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shortly after the anthrax attacks, he e-mails these photos of himself with what he calls the now infamous string of anthrax. >> he wanted his former colleagues to know that he was doing important work. >> reporter: one detail stands out. >> he said he was working in the containment has been. and he wasn't wearing gloves. and that is a bio safety hazard. you just don't ever do that. and what that is to me a sign. i'm immune. >> so much has been written about all of this. we have the benefit of hindsight now. turns out there were just a lot of things in this investigation that did not look right, but it took the federal authority as long time to put all the pieces together. and to this day, brooke, some people say they're still not sure the investigators pointed the finger at the right man. >> so here we are, what, ten years later. is the government still fearful
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someone could try this this again? >> there are certainly a lot of nerves about about that. and we actually get into that in the documentary, what has the government done. and are we prepared if somebody tries this again. certainly from the inside. there are still holes in the system quite frankly and we'll talk about that on sunday night when this thing airs. >> that's the question, are we prepared. the documentary sunday night 8:00 eastern right here on cnn. joe johns, i will be watching. thank you very much. coming up here, foiled. how a terrorist with a big plan and a small plane was caught. we'll take a look inside the toy plane terror plot. but first this. time for the the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me, the founder of the financial advice blog, and a certified financial planner and president of francis financial.
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ladies, thank you for being here. lynette, first question from danny. danny may go into foreclosure, but he has an ira with the same bank that holds the note to his home. so he's wondering if he does go into foreclosure if the bank will be able to get in to his ira if he falls short of what he owes on the house. >> sorry to hear about the prospective foreclosure. that's the bad news. the good news is that, no, the bank likely will not be able to touch that ira because under federal law, up to a mill crop doll mill p i don't knion dollars ar from creditors. income is not roekted. so if you're drawing income from the ira, they can make claims on that. but chances are he probably doesn't have more than a mill crop dollai don't know dollars sitting in that account. >> and someone who has $150,000 to invest, not bad, they're asking what the lowest risk hoe cost way is to invest and get 5% to 6%.
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>> about if i could find a low risk freeway to get 5% to 6%, i could really retire and could you come with me. unfortunately, there's no risk free or extremely low risk asset that you'll be able to get 5% to 6%. instead what we would say is create a diversified portfolio. mostly made up of high quality bonds if you are in a high tax bre bracket. but no magic bullet. >> thank you guys so much. if you have a question, just send us an e-mail to cnn help desk@cnn.com. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us.
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now to this bizarre terror plot using remote controlled airplanes. before you dismiss it as some crazy scheme, consider this, the accused mastermind actually has a degree in physics who was arrested after sharing this plan with fbi agents posing as al qaeda operatives. this massachusetts man is a u.s. citizen, had planned to fly these planes in to the pentagon and the u.s. capitol. brian todd is live in washington with more on this undercover sting operation. i guess we shouldn't be surprised. >> not really. and we did learn from the u.s. attorney's office in massachusetts just a short time ago when they were talking to me about this six count indictment, that they've just handed down, that just yesterday when they arrested him, he had already packed c-4 explosives on to o
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those model planes. they're like the planes that he had planned to use, these are models of the f-4 phantom and f-86 saber. one-tenth the size of the actual aircraft. he had planned to pack those with c-4 explosives, fly them into the pentagon and capitol. and he had planned a ground attack to go with that. he had concocted a scheme where two peoples of six people would carry tut weapons around those buildings and fire on people as they tried to evacuate. so according to federal authorities, he had a fairly elaborate plan in place, but right now, there is no one else who they're naming as any possible suspects, although one official did say the investigation is ongoing. >> what more do you know about this guy, brian? >> well, the name name is rez n
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ferdaus. neighbors describe him as someone who kept to himself. he lived with his parents and young are brother in an upscale neighborhood about 30 miles from boston. clearly no dummy. a degree in physics. authorities say that he rigged 12 cell phones to act as switches for ieds that he had hoped would be carried overseas to be used gueagainst u.s. solds in iraq and afghanistan. he knew some of the mechanics of what he was trying to do. >> brian, thank you very much. we'll talk to a former fbi director and ask him how much damage they could have caused. thank you very much. next, this eerie image
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in a second we'll put apimage up on the screen and i want you -- you be the judge. you tell me what you see here in the water. take a good long look. what do you see? susan took this picture on vacation with her family in hawaii. visiting pearl harbor. and leak so many visitor, she n above the ship's wreckage.
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she didn't notice what looks to be a face until later when she did, she wasn't sure what to make of it. so here's what she did next. >> i said, just have a look at the photo. he said, oh, my gosh, it's a face. it just looked really sad. really sad. and young. the face to me looked young. which i don't know if it represents the men at that time. >> maybe you saw the two eyes, the nose. when japan attacked pearl harbor, they were hoping to destroy the u.s. pacific fleet. more than 1,100 sailors were on the boat. some say here it is again. some say the arizona still bleeds, releasing a drop of oil from her hole every few seconds. the oil mixed with water likely responsible for this iridescent illusion shimmering just below the surface creating this
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haunting image. all this week, cnn is going in depth with a broken government and hundreds of people in saddle brook, new jersey, they are sick and tired over this constant battle with rising water. hurrica people have been pushing for the government to dredge this waterway and now, they say enough is enough. it's time for a long lasting flood plan. >> i had everything fixed. took me a year to fix it and it's destroyed again. i can't do it. please help us. >> residents pleaded for help at a rally in saddle brook, new jersey this week. 500 homes were damaged by recent flooding from hurricane irene and lee. flooding is not new to this area, but there's been more in resent years to to a build-up of
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silt. the mayor came up with the plan to dredge the river, but nothing happened. >> we're tired of hearing, we don't have the money. we have the money to send all over the world. but why don't we have the money to come up with the dredging plan and the work to be done? >> it's not that officials haven't paid attention, they've visited saddle brook. >> i have the article showing congress people, united corp. of engineers were there. >> regina bailey has a newspaper from four years ago showing her with federal officials in her home after it was damaged. they told her the problem could be fixed by 2010 requiring upwards of 1 million in funding. there were others in bailey's home this week. construction workers repairing the damage from recent flooding. >> nothing has been done.
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all we have is false promises and they lie to us. if i knew i was going to flood again, i would move. i can't go through this again. >> what's behind the delays? environmental concerns and money. the state of new jersey has refused to pay for removal of toxic materials. the extent of contamination is not known and each delay requires the army corp. to update the flood plan. the earliest dredging could happen now not until 2012. >> we had furniture here we had to throw out. >> this is the third time maria's home has been damaged. her family has moved out. >> it makes me feel very angry because the politicians, they fight for the money, the money, they create the problem, but who pays for it is us, the people pay for them. we the working people pay for their mistakes. >> after the last flood, it took three months before the family could move back home. this time, she is uncertain when
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or if they'll return. the town became so frustrated with the delays, that four years ago, it sued the army corp. of engineers in an attempt to force the federal government to finally dredge the river, but no action on that front either. >> thank you. most robbers, they hit different banks, but this guy, apparently, he was a repeat offender. robbing the same bank three days in a row. but first, is herman cain looking more like a real contender? your political ticker, next. medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare, call now to find out how an aarp... medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company, helps cover some of the medical expenses... not paid by medicare part b.
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quick little programming note. if you missed me telling you this, i am moving up an hour starting next monday, so still two hours from our team, but you have to watch from 2:00 to 4:00 eastern or 11:00 to 1:00 pacific. now though let's go to washington for that cnn equals politics update. jim acosta, live in the -- >> yes, i'm here. >> it said mark preston, but i see jim acosta. let's talk herman cain. >> there is a little bit of news here. herman cain will be meeting with donald trump on monday. meeting with the donald has become the latest sign of republican prowess.
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monday in new york. before that, he's on with ja jay leno and has a book coming out. he gave this extraordinary interview with wolf blitzer yesterday where he sort of laid into some of the other challengers in the field. first was asked what do you think about chris christie joined the field. didn't hold back. >> it's not insulting as much as it is a disservice to the american people. chris christie has said for a long time he wasn't interested in running for president. unfortunately, wolf, the media is trying to create a story by sucking chris christie into this race just like they tried to create a story of sucking rick perry into the race. >> there you go. he doesn't hold back. he talked about rick perry, saying at this point, he mightn because of the texas governor's stance on immigration. >> i could not support rick
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perry as the nominee for a host of reasons. him being soft on securing the border is one of the reasons. >> so, this is the reason, brooke, why republicans like herman cain so much. he's a fresh face, he is a proven leader in the business industry. he's willing to go after people when he has to go after people and republicans like that right now. just to prove a point, latest fox news poll came out yesterday showing herman cain as a surprising contender. it's stunning stuff. here's mitt romney, 23%. perry at 19%. some of that is due to perry's performance in the last debate, but look at herman cain. 17%. this is a challenger that a lot of republicans here in washington did not take very seriously, but this is a sign that grass roots support does matter when it comes to picking a nominee and right now, herman cain has to be taken seriously.
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>> how about that? he's really got momentum, doesn't he? thank you so much. another update in half an hour. now, take a look at this. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com michael jackson's bodyguard claims dr. murray didn't know cpr, so what else happened in the moments after the king of pop passed? more testimony from los angeles. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. foil. how accused terrorist with a big plan and a small plane got caught. >> have to think about everything that the terrorists are capable of doing. >> inside the suspect's plot to target key buildings in washington. plus, they were locked up for nearly two decades convicted of horrific crimes against children. >> i hadn't walked in 18 and a half years without chains on my feet. i was literally learning how to
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walk again. >> piers morgan sits down with two of the recently freed west memphis three. welcome back. hour two. if it's interesting and happening you, you're about to see it beginning the w the trial of michael jackson's doctor. a jackson employee testified about the chaos of the day jackson died. his name is alberto alvarez. he says dr. murray told him to collect drug viles in jackson's bedroom before telling him to dial 911. he also described two of jackson's young children arriving in the room while murray was trying to revive the pop superstar by pushing on his chest with his left hand. alvarez was the first of jackson's bodyguards to go in the room. now, another huge trial. this one in the normally quiet down of perugia, italy. the lawyer r insists she is not
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the sadist prosecutors made her out to be. lawyers are appealing her conviction. the defense team is making its final argument in hearing today. knox may make a statement herself on monday before the jury goes into deliberations there. and a building collapse in columbus, ohio. what's left is an old manufacturing warehouse. it was process of being demolished. the structure came down today. one man fuwas found under a portion of the building. two were trapped on the work. two were injured, but we're hearing they should be fine. and third time's a charm for a bank in new york. this man is chris burnette. he's accused of robbing the same bank three days in a row. tellers say the man walked in, said he had a gun, demanded money. after it happened two times, the bank released a photo and on day
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three, the guy walking back on on the street. that's when they arrested him. about $26,000 was stolen. and red sox fans, look away. look away today. boston needed one more strike last night to win, get into the playoffs, but with one swing of the bat, baltimore tied the game. doubles off papelbon. next, hits the ball to the left, crawford can't catch it, this one winning run, there they are celebrating and just like that, the red sox' season is over. it's being called an epic collapse. the team had an ugly 7-20 record in september. actually held a nine-game league in the american league at the beginning of the month. flash mobs, they can be a lot of things, but romantic? watch this and you be the judge. ♪
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♪ oh, yes, sway along with me. can't take my eyes off of you. it turned a walk across campus into -- >> duh. >> i think we heard her say yes he popped the question on the very spot where they met on the campus of ucla. her answer and i'm quoting, duh. really? do you say that when you're proposed to? the couple appeared on "american morning" today.
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>> i think what i saw my little cousins jumping into the group and started dancing and i immediately spotted my parents, i knew something special is going to happen to me today. >> congratulations to them. and an early rally on wall street has fizzled despite two positive reports on the economy. let's go to carter evans on the new york stock exchange. what happened? >> well, it fizzled, then bounce backed. first of all, we got positive economic data today showing our economy is growing a little faster. that's great news. still too slow, but better than expected. the weekly unemployment claims fell significantly. it was great news to boost the markets. then worries about europe pulled us back. in the end of the day, the good news was enough to pull us higher. >> let's talk about this bank of america story. so, let me get this straight. if you have a bank of america debit card and swipe it once, 20 times in a month, you're how
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much does it cost me? >> 5 bucks. even if you use it one time. this is not a checking account fee. this is in addition to any other fees you're being charged. you see, banks are trying to make up for the change in the swipe fe rules. used to get 44 cents. now 21 steps. 21 cents, so, they're trying to make up for those losses. banks are really testing out these fees, trying to see where they can add revenue, so if you're not happy, it's a good idea to give your bank a call and let them know you don't like paying more to use your own money. this applies if you use your card and hit the credit button. you're still going to get charged the fee. >> they got you. carter evans, thank you. >> yep. >> now, this. i had to learn to use a fork again. i hadn't eaten with a fork in 18
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and a half years. they don't give you forks in there. >> these three were locked up nearly two decades, convicted of a horrific crime against children. the case grabbed attention around the world. how are they adapting now to life after their release from prison? two of them sat down with piers morgan. then, foiled. how a suspected terrorist with big, big plans was caught with very small plane. meineke's personal pricing on brakes.
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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. so, for this job, fear of heights not allowed. engineers repealing down the washington monument. just shows you how huge those stones are. those are two people on both
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sides of this monument. they're up there inspecting it because of the earthquake last month, stone by stone and their structural check has given us some amazing views. take a look at these images. this is 500 feet, i think precisely, 555 feet to the top there. to the washington monument. that's that gorgeous view. i guess it depend on your perspecti perspective. this is one member of the crew with that harness, strap ped in tight being lowered along the structure. national park officials tell us the team did find loose mortar, grouting, some cracks up there yesterday. they have now completed their exam of the tiptop of it and now, they're moving to the sides. >> the team also did a quick survey of the rest of the monument, but that quick survey was nothing more than a quick survey. they need to continue examining all the stones at close range.
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>> we also did talk to one of these engineers. there are four. >> it's incredible. not only because of the actual history of the structure, but the area and the view. and just knowing what you're doing and seeing what you're seeing after the earthquake. we have the drawings from repair from 1999, so we're noticing right now, we've only seen a few, i've only seen a few. but we've only done a small portion of the structure at this point, so there's still a lot to go. >> still a lot to go. in fact, we're told it will take weeks to inspect that entire monument. a massachusetts physics graduate is under arrest charged in a terror plot targeting the pentagon and cap top. the the fbi says he planned to
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use remote control model planes stuffed with explosives to attack the pentagon and capitol and also planned to have armed gunmen outside waiting to open fire on people who would be evacuating those buildings. the planes are just about six feet long. that's about one tenth the size of a regular airplane. federal agents posing as al-qaeda terrorists nabbed him in this lengthy sting operation. approached them last year. agents say he had a desire to plan a jihad against america and at one point, was supplying the agents with cell phones rigged to act as trigger devices for i.e.d.s to kill u.s. soldiers in iraq and afghanistan. former homeland security adviser to bush says this young man was skilled. >> this is a guy what had some technical training and understanding. and i think authorities will want to look at this closely.
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what drove him? what radicalized him to this view to want to plan this attack? we've heard a lot in the nadal hasan case. he was radicalized over the internet by a radical preacher, but we don't know. was it an internet based radicalization? had he identified the six? i suspect the fbi will focus on all those questions now. >> let's bring in former fbi director, tom fuentes. you have boks in underwear to suitcases to model airplanes. are you surprised by this attempt? >> not really. these kind of attacks with model aircraft have been discussed before. there was a case in 2006 that talked about this, but when you compare this to the underwear bomber, these planes are capable of carrying 50 pounds of explosives and flying at 100
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miles an hour with gps coordinates plugged into them, so it's a very dangerous device. especially if you flew it into a crowd. i don't know what damage it would do to the capitol dome or the side of the pentagon, but certainly, if you flew a weapon like that into crowded people, even without the explosive device on there, it could kill a number of people. >> and really, tom, this is a story of good old fashioned police work, is it not? >> yes, it is. it was an undercover operation by the fbi posing as al-qaeda and they were able to convince this guy they were, but in reviewing the indictment and materials associated with it, it's very clear that the fbi department of justice was concerned to not risk entrapment issues in this case, so they have a number of recorded conversations for almost a year where it's clear that this guy wanted to do these attacks. he was initiating all efforts to do it and with his degree and
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technical know how, he was capable of doing that and as mentioned, he already had rigged up a number of cell phones to act as detonators. so he certainly was capable of doik a lot of damage. >> we are all glad he was caught. thank you very much. and they didn't know what the internet was. forget how to eat with the fork or walk like you and me. now, the west memphis three, they are free and two of them are talking to this guy. piers morgan. he's going to join me next to talk about this sit down interview. be right back. [ female announcer ] you always went for the tall, dark, handsome types. so who'd have ever thought the love of your life... would be short and bald? having a baby changes everything.
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the west memphis three, three teenagers at the time, convicted of a horrific crime. really shocked the world just about two decades ago. they were sent to prison, for the murders of three cub scouts whose bodies were found in a drainage ditch in arkansas. prosecutors claim the boys were killed in a satanic ritual, but almost from the get go, there were doubts about these three teens. this case against them was almost entirely circumsubstantial. drawing support from a number of actors -- new evidence emerged over time and then just last month came the moment the west memphis three had been waiting for. >> my name is damien and i was
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released from a crime i did not commit over 18 years ago. >> released, served 19 years -- >> tonight, piers morgan has the very first ever sit down interview with two of them. piers, i remember when this story finally broke last month. it's riveting and i remember taking notes as i was watching the conference. damien talked about how he had been in solitary confinement for over a decade and in that moment, just being around people was overwhelming. amazing. >> yeah, it's one of the most powerful interviews i've been involved with and the reason is that these guys, i interviewed two of them, they were both school friends. they've always protested their innocence. the evidence against them in the end boiled down to testimony given by the third guy, jesse.
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now, he had an i.q. of 72. he is somebody who never been interrogated the way he was and the general belief has been that he under huge pressure from the police came up with the load of nonsense, really, which never had any backing to it in terms of evidence. you have to see these guys are innocent people of these horrific crimes based on the lack of any real evidence at all. i talked to damien for about ten minutes about his life of solitary confinement. it was almost mid evil. he was in a tiny eight by eight cell, i think it was. concrete bed with a tiny bit of padding. he was fed food through a grill. wasn't allowed a knife and fork. had to use his hands for ten years. >> we have some of this. this is when he was talking about how he didn't see daylight for ten years.
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>> when did you see daylight? >> never. i hadn't seen daylight in almost a decade. i hadn't been exposed to sun light. >> in ten years? >> yes. what are you thinking throughout this period? this is for an innocent man, as many believe that you are, you've always protested this. what are you thinking when you're stuck in there? >> the only thing you can do and maintain your sanity is to not think about the case and what's happening to you. you have to sort of immerse yourself into a routine and never deviate. work out your own exercise routine, a meditation routine. art work, practice, you have to create your own world or you'll go insane. >> just looking from both of them, how do they seem? do they seem they're still
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adjusting to life? >> there were moments when the lights were on damien's face and you could see him really squinting. as he said, no daylight in ten years. >> i can't imagine. >> it got worse for both of them. the other boy, for the first five or six years, he was systemically beaten up by other prisoners, but other prison guards. they were treated as convicted triple child killers and life inside for people convicted of those kind of crimes is appalling. jason talked incredibly powerfully of having his jaw broken, his nose broken, his back. everything. these guys went through hell and you watch it and just are left with the impression that two guys remarkably lacking, incredibly candid. they've always protested their innocence and i don't think you can watch their interview tonight and not draw the same
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conclusion most people have. >> i remember that day when jason was talking. saying he almost didn't take what was called the maneuvering. but he did. just to make sure he could save his friend's life. we have one more piece of sound i want to share this. this is when you're talk damien. >> what are the things that you've had to learn again about real life? simple things. >> well, there are r things that most people would expect you to have to learn. like i said, i had never seen the internet, so i'm having to learn how to use a cell phone, a computer. but there are also things for example, i hadn't walked in 18 and a half years without chains on my feet. i wasn't used to that, so i was literally having to learn to walk again and the first few days, i would almost keep falling over myself because i was used to walking with short strides with chains. i had to learn to use a fork
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again. >> why? >> they don't give you forks. >> how do you eat? >> with your hands. >> with your hand. and to remind everyone, they're not exonerated. >> under this ridiculous, perverse part of american law that relates to people in their position, in the end, they had to continue to plead guilt, they had to plead guilty, but continue to maintain their innocence, so they walk free, but as far as the state law is concerned down there, they are not proclaimed innocent. that was the only way they could get out. jason made a big sacrifice because he could have got out earlier i think, but he refused to do that if it meant his other friend would go to the chair. brings in the whole debate about a death penalty. could have been that damien would be executed. he had an execution date and it came and went, but he could have
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died that day for a crime he almost certainly didn't commit. it is inspiring about power of the human spirit. these guys through went stuff in our worst nightmares. came across at eloquent, they're intelligent. >> an incredible story and i cannot wait to watch it. they're going to recount some of the life, 18 and a half years behind bars. watch piers morgan tonight 9:00 eastern. thank you very much. >> thanks, as always. now, this. >> comedy saved my life quite literally. >> these gis had been to war. they had been shot at, lost close buddies, yet they're still laughing and they want you to laugh right along with them. and these people keep protesting. demonstrations against cronies on wall street expanding. we're going to go live to new
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one laugh at a time. barbara starr had a wonderful time outside the walls of her normal post of the pentagon and on the road with the gis of comedy. >> got in trouble so much i thought [ bleep ] was a rank. anytime i heard my name [ bleep ] private. >> these are the gis of comedy. all veterans and as they like to say, still serving the country, one joke at a time. we sat down the talk at the famed hollywood improve club where they have performed. former staff sergeant tom tran started the group. >> i wanted to get a group of guys together, all professional comedians, served in the military. >> this is bring a bouncer get in free night. >> g, no period, last name riley. signal men, second class. >> now, full time come medians,
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sharing the laughter. >> my staff sergeant pulled me out and sent me for psych yatic evaluation. you never stop laughing. don't take anything seriously and there's something wrong with you, boy. >> air force major jose saw some oddities in iraq. >> we would land and i'm a cargo guy, wow, it sucks here. all right, we'll see you guys. >> peace. >> all the guys say they saw the world somewhat differently even as children. >> i came from a very funny family. we were deported from cuba. as a kid. >> deported from cuba. >> that's right. >> from cuba. >> my dad was a political prisoner. he protested communism and he went to jail. >> i know what you're thinking to yourself. you're thinking there is 6 billion chinese people on the planet, i've never seen one with a guitar. >> tom's family were refugees
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from vietnam. his father was a political prisoner, but one day in iraq, the laughter stopped. >> i got shot in the back of the head. i remember thinking damn it, this morning, this uniform was clean. i haven't taken a shower. >> tom stayed in iraq and suppressed it all. >> all that fear and anxiety built up and i came home and i snapped. pt sr ptsd set in like -- my roommate got killed before i came home, so comedy saved by life quite literally. kevlar, helmet, whatever. comedy saved my life. >> and now, a brotherhood off tears and laughter. >> we're beyond friends, we're brothers. >> barbara starr, cnn, los
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government shutdown averted and an amazing scene in space. let's begin with you on capitol hill. what's the news today? >> this morning, the house met in a special session and took just a few minutes to approve a measure that will keep the government from shutting down. this will fund the government until tuesday. >> so, for how long dare i ask? >> the house is not in session, which is why they held this
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session. it only requires a few members to be present. there were three on the floor today. less than five minutes a session. house is back in session next week and they'll have to then approve a longer short-term resolution funding the government through november 18th. so what they're really doing is just putting a stamp of approval, but it's still just a band-aid that gets us through so that people can then debate the longer measure. >> okay, a longer short-term measure. got it. exactly. thank you very much live for us on the hill. next, some spectacular images of the aurora, or southern lights. alexandria steel with us today. nice to have you on. beautiful pictures. what is this? >> and how does it happen? there's the sun and on the sun, there are sun spots. and emanating from these sun spots are something called solar flares. if you were holding like a
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slippery watermelon seed and you were to squeeze it, it shoots. those flares shoot out incredibly fast. now, charged particles from these collide are atoms from our atmosphere. they are moving forward on what's called a solar wind. notice there are two colors. yellow and green and red. >> how come? >> i'm about to get to that. >> these charged particles come into our atmosphere and then atoms in our atmosphere, be it hydrogen, nitrogen or oxygen, when they collide, they create different colors, so as they come in and move into our atmosphere with oxygen, they charge and you see a green band. that's really the most common, but if they come and collide with nitrogen, there becomes this red band, so you can kind of see both here. now, this is the southern atmosphere.
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the hem -- essentially, the same game in different parts of the world. >> these are the pictures. there it is. very cool. like a woman who can talk hydrogen and oxygen. that is "reporter roulette." court is back in session in los angeles. we're going to go to the trial of dr. conrad murray after they get going again and the questioning of michael jackson's bodyguard. it's a sad day. >> oh, why so glum, mr. jay k n carney? does it have a little splg to do with the funding bill? no. libya? we know why jay carney is so upset. three words for you. boston red sox. but first, all about some girl power. the top five most powerful women
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rosenfelt. the agony of defeat. nothing the worse for a sports fan, especially an outspoken one like jay carney, who's team, the boston red sox, out. and did not at all make the playoffs. he had to face perez today. joe johns is out, but brianna keilar is in for political pop and was in the room. but before we talk carney and what he did, just take me through what happened last night. >> let me preface this by telling you the last time i reported on baseball was in high school. so, here goes. here's what happened last night. late last night, bottom of the ninth, two outs, two strikes, boston was up 3-2. and then -- what happens, boston blows it. the red sox blow it. the orioles win the game. this was the end of the season for the red sox and this was really kind of an epic collapse. they had a nine-game lead in the playoff race at the beginning of the month then managed to lose
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20 games in september, so this was completely heartbreaking for red sox fans. and like i said, it happened late at night, brooke, so you've got this great combo of people not only being grumpy, but tired of the red sox fans and jay carney is one of them. >> you're in this white house briefing. he's taking this a little hard, isn't he? >> he's taking it hard. in fact, he actually started off the briefing talking about this. and with the assistance of a line graph. check it out. >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. it's a sad day. >> not for tigers fans. >> i stayed up a little late last night watching baseball. and i was reminded by the travesty that occurred after midnight for red sox fans, that there's a reason you play the game. there's a reason you play the game, right? because when statistical probableties say you cannot
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lose, red sox, rays. you have to go to the playoffs. >> perhaps a lesson, brooke, that can also be applied to politics. >> i suppose so. i guess it's not that bad of a day if you're a ray fan or a cardinal fan, but not at all the case for mr. carney. >> that's right. >> excellent job talking baseball. all right. >> i try. >> thank you very much. we want to dip back into that involuntary manslaughter trail underway in los angeles. >> after that, you put that in a different bag. >> yes, sir. >> and you said that was a blue bag. >> that is correct.
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and then you called 911. >> yes, sir, then dr. murray instructed me to call 911, sir. >> do you think you might have gotten some of this mis -- mistaken? >> no, sir. >> no. no chance of that? no chance. all right. let's talk about this 911 call you made. okay? during the 911 call, you said that you placed michael jackson in the floor, correct? >> correct. >> is that your testimony today? >> yes. >> okay. you sure it wasn't after your 911 call? >> no, sir, if i can remember correctly, it was when the operator was instructing me to put him on the floor. >> all right.
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well, your testimony today was that when you before you put him on the floor, you, you grabbed michael jackson's ankles. >> yes, sir, that's correct. >> and he was limp. >> yes, sir. >> and you before you could ever lift him, there was a catheter that was removed from his leg, right? >> from his -- >> from his leg, catheter? >> you said an iv was pulled out of him. >> oh, yes, sir. >> in fact, you didn't know where to grab at first because of the ivs. >> that is correct, sir. >> okay. and you were gentle with him, weren't you? >> i was, sir. >> you didn't just throw him on the ground, right? >> of course not. >> you want to be careful. >> yes, sir. >> and you're saying that dr. murray, before he actually grabbed -- this is your testimony, before he grabbed the
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shoulders, he put this device on michael jackson's finger. >> that is correct, sir. >> all that happened before michael jackson was gently laid to the floor. >> correct. >> all right. now, do you still have the transcript of the? >> yes, i do. >> do we have it here? will you go to that transcript and tell us what line at what line you put michael jackson on the floor. knows exactly at what point -- >> indicated, fine. if not, just indicate that.
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>> so, you've been listening to alberto alvarez. one of the bodyguards for michael jackson. we saw at the top, this list, so what they're having him do is list out essentially the timeline, what he did once he went to the room to see michael jackson. dr. conrad murray was there. earlier, he had described how dr. murray asked him to put a bunch of viles in a bag before dialing 911. meantime, watch this. >> corporations sould not run the government, so we're here to kind of get that out there. >> for nearly two weeks, today, day 13, they have been rallying on wall street. demonstrating against corporate corruption. the look at the movement and
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the u.s. fall responds to the spring here, l.a., boston, on to atlanta, on to dallas, on to chicago and other places. >> you had mentioned a number of concern among these different demonstrators and that's maybe part of the issue and criticism i read about is it lacks a coherent message, a leader. you see antiwall street signs, anti death penalty signs. a lot of people say they need one message. >> my dear brother howard zen used to say decent is the
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highest form of patriotism. when you're bearing witness to truth, justice, you're doing it in the name of something bigger than you. country as well as humanity. that's what kept this country free and democratic. that's the only thing that will keep this country free and democratic. this kind of witness bearing, bringing all kind of people together realizing justice is what love looks like in public. that's what you're seeing here today. >> last moments of michael jackson's life. how did his personal bodyguard react? he is on standstill right now describing his moves step by step. sunny hostin is on the case. she's going to walk us through today's developments, next. o0 0 what's going on here? hey, whats up guys?
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liberty mutual auto insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? quick note about this newscast. i'm moving just a little bit. i need you to move with me. the show moves up just one hour starting monday. so you'll still get two hour frs us, just have to watch from 2:00 to 4:00 eastern time. that starts on monday. michael jackson's bodyguard testifying that paris jackson screamed, daddy, and that dr. conrad murray stopped cpr on the singer just to gather and hide drug viles. al b alberto alvarez, he's still on the stand there speaking, has spent most of the day on the stand. >> going back to what was physically, what happened, so you kind of indicated the children to leave the room, is that accurate? >> yes, sir. >> okay.
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conrad murray as you were coming back tells you michael had a bad reaction. >> yes, sir. >> did he then instruct you the take some vials or do something with some vials? >> yes, well i was standing at the foot of the bed, he reached over and grabbed handful of vials and then reached out to me and said, here, put these in a bag. >> sunny hostin is on the case and sunny, let's just talk about how dr. murray looks now in light of alberto alvarez' testimony. how do you think? >> well, alberto alvarez is a very strong witness for the prosecution. we just saw him describing what appears to be a very chaotic scene in michael jackson's bedroom when he was clearly on his death bed. he described not really an alive michael jackson. he described seeing michael jackson laying on his back, eyes open, mouth open, palms up to the ceiling and rather than
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having him call 911, dr. conrad murray asked him to hide some vials, throw away some medications, so that very much looks like a cover up. looks like consciousness of guilt. that can't bode well for dr. murray, brooke. >> so if he's a strong witness, how can the defense successfully chip away at his testimony? >> well, certainly, we're seeing that now because he is on cross-examination right now. they are trying to chip away at his memory. they're trying to chip away at that timeline because this is very important to this defense. 911 wasn't called until about 12:20 p.m. it is apparent michael jackson was in trouble around 11:55, 11:56, 11:57. that's a long period of time not to call 911 and it sounds like the defense is really trying to hammer him on his memory, perhaps on the timeline.
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again, very, very ektive witness thr this prosecution. >> also interesting is just the impact that jackson's death had on so many people close to him. leaving people like alberto alvarez on the brink financially. why did the prosecution bring his financial troubles into all of this though? >> i think it bolsters his credibility. he said he was offered $500,000 by one news outlet to tell his story. 200,000 by the national enquierer. guess what? he didn't take the money. i think that makes him so much more credible to this jury because his story wasn't for sale. his story was for this jury, this courtroom. that makes very, very credible witness. >> we're going to keep watching this trial unfold. thanks to you for watching. i'm brooke baldwin here in atlanta. now, sitting in for wolf blitzer, joe johns. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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