>> we're going to take you to dubai to the world's largest camel ranch. and then italy's economy. it is not doing well. that's an understatement. but we have other things on our mind, seriously. and the bottom line on the banks, thousands of people have signed a petition against bank of america. we talked to the woman who started it. let's go "out front." >> hello, erin burnette. 200,000 people signed a petition ruling against bank of america for the new debit card fee. $5. we've been saying all weeks that the fees banks are putting on people are showing how tone deaf they are at a very bad time. the person who led the petition is 22-year-old molly catchpole.

she out front tonight. she is in washington and came to talk us to. we really appreciate you coming in. >> i appreciate it. >> so you and i were talking before. you said you set up this petition just a week ago. >> one week ago. >> and what made you decide to do it? what made you say i've had enough? >> well, i'm 22 years old. i'm working two part time jobs and i don't have an extra $60 a year to give to bank of america. and i knew that thousands of other americans would feel the same way. >> and so basically they were trying to get you to $5 a month. >> yep. >> and you're someone who you're saying you work two part time jobs out of college. you don't have a huge bank account. >> no. no. >> so -- but did you something, molly that, a lot of people don't do and that is break up with their bank. i don't know anyone that really loves their bank. but you actually -- tell me how you did it? >> yesterday i took all of the signatures -- yesterday i was at 195,000. so we took all of them from change.org. we brought them over to the bank that i usually go to downtown d.c.

we presented it to them. we said here is 195,000 signatures and didn't really know what to do with them. and then i said i want to close my bank account. i closed my bank account. i cut up my debit card and credit card. so i'm free. >> and have you decided where you're going to go? >> i think i'll go to a credit union. but i still need to think about it a little bit. look where i'm going to go. >> so molly, i know that bank of america hasn't responded. they're not backing down on fees. i want to ask you, because you took the time to think about this and put together this petition. what do you think the bank could do so get someone like you back, to make you feel that they're not taking advantage of you and doing the wrong thing? >> i don't think bank of america could get me back now. the fact that they haven't responded to this petition, it's been a week. they haven't responded to it. i don't respect. that i don't want to go with a

bank that won't acknowledge hundreds of thousands of angry and upset customers. >> certainly aggressive tax. all right. molly, thank you so much. we really appreciate you coming up and taking the time and telling us all about it. again, your petition is at change.org. give everyone the exact number of people you had when you walked on the set, 204,931 people signed your petition. >> thank you. >> that's the way to take charge and make a difference. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, molly. here's the bottom line. the reason the banks say they're doing it is because new rules took effect a week ago which cap how much money they can charge when you use a debit or credit card. so they're upping fees on checking accounts and debit cards to get back to even and way beyond. and that's the problem. we went through all the numbers. and there are a lot that analysts are crunching. only 45% of noninterest checking accounts are free now compared to 76% just two years ago. here's the thing. banks have been upping fees long before the new regulations that they blame now. average atm fees are at a record. they have risen for each of the

past seven years. so now to bank of america. as we told you this week, the investment firm credit suisse says if bank of america charged a $5 fee like it is doing to molly or did until she left them on all the debit cards, it could make more than it did before the regulations and that is just debit cards. it doesn't count the checking fees which they're testing at $9 for some accounts starting soon. bank of america sent us a statement that reads in part, everything we do with our customers is to be clear and to give them a choice. that's what the recent debit card decision is as well. you can see the full statement on our website and facebook page as well ali belshy joins us now. can you explain why this is happening now? they're blaming the regulation. >> yes, they are. and that's true. one of the things the recent round of regulations did was minimize the fee that banks can charge to retailers. so if you're a shopkeeper, you get charged for processing a debit or a credit card

transaction. they're cutting that in half. so what b of a is saying is they have to make that up somewhere. so this is where they're making it up with a very big number that is very round and very obvious. the thing about bank fees, usually they're hidden. this is very obvious. what is more is debit cards are actually pretty cheap for banks to process. they're a lot cheaper than checks used to be in the old days. >> it's amazing how much cheaper they are. before the regulation, as leigh was saying, there were fees whether going to retailers and some going to the consumer. now they're disclosing how much they're charging. when you look at the math, they're making more now than they were before. >> sure. yeah, look, as the ceo of bank of america said, he said they have a right to make a profit. i don't know if this is about rights. companies do exist to make profits.

they also make the profits when they're good to customers. so i think what molly is doing is fantastic. we're at an age, erin, where the bank puts out a statement that says it's all about transparency. they should have always been about transparency. the cost of that transaction is less than a third of the reduced fee that they're actually getting. so molly's right. you said 45% of accounts don't have fees. there are fees out there. she's going to a credit union. that's what americans should do. between this petition and, you know, voting with their wallets and saying let me go somewhere where there are not fees. that's the only impact you can have. >> that's the most amaing thing that molly did. most people don't like their bank. just like they don't like the airline. but they don't go breaking up with their bank. it's a very sticky relationship.

>> it's very sticky. here's a great example. a couple weeks ago netflix raised prices. it caused a firestorm 600,000 customers walked away. >> including me. >> including ali. what more do you have to say? so that's a great example of consumers walking away. you're right. they don't do that with their banks. one of the reasons is because over the years banks have put their tenic wills into every aspect of our lives. sometimes you might have a mortgage with the same bank. you also probably link 18 different accounts, maybe including your netflix accounts to the debit card. so it's a lot harder. but this will be interesting. this is a big fee. if there's ever been a fee that will make people walk away, this is it. so it will be interesting to see if it has any impact. >> what do you think? $5 debit card fee like monthly sli talking b but there are some that sound even more like gouging, $5 atm fees if you use a nonbank atm, $9 checking fees and we should note, these are on the low balance people who can least afford it. >> that's right. so one thing that has happened in the same time that banks have been raising fees is there are more nonbank alternatives and more low fee alternatives out there. people do have the choices. it's just not convenient. we'll just have become better consumers. the number of people in this petition though is very, very telling. there's a lot of frustration out there. i think bank of america needs a little bit more of a response than they've given already. >> that seems to be very clear. we should emphasize we called them. we got that statement. but they would give us no, not

even a spokesperson to come on and talk about this. it seems they should. thank you very much ali and leigh and molly who is still hanging out over there on the corner. >> erin? have her go downtown to those folks that occupy wall street and get them to sign it. she's actually making a difference. they should get behind. >> yes, she is. >> the two of them could make bank of america change something. >> thank you. a pastor introduces rick perry at an event and called mormonism a cult. i thought we got beyond. that we'll talk about what it means for the republicans today. and italian prime minister berl xoeny suggests a seriously ib appropriate name for his party. we will not disappoint you with this. and we'll introduce you to why

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the number tonight, 226,000, that's how many one litre glasses that revellers were trying to take over at this year's oktoberfest in munich, germany. according to the german magazine, the lost item stats this is always great. you can see it here. 390 cell phones, 1300 items of clothing, 1,000 id cards, 370 eyeglasses and electric wheelchair. what? and a live eight centimeter grasshopper and one pair of dentures which is down from previous years. all right. exclusive comments today from the past who who introduced rick perry in washington, d.c. i don't want to just tell you about it. we want you to hear it. dr. robert jeffress talked to cnn's jim acosta a few hours ago. >> you said in strong language what you think mormonism. you described it as a cult.

and you said that if republican votes for mitt romney they're giving some credibility to a cult. do you stand by that comment? >> absolutely. and that's not some fanatical comment. that is the story of the southern baptist convention which is the largest protestant denomination in the world has officially label morm onism as a cult. >> governor perry's issued a statement. he said he didn't believe more thannonism as a cult and he didn't choose the person to introduce him. joining us is a a cnn contributor from washington and mary matalin in new orleans. mary, how does something like this still happen? >> well, welcome, erin. we love the show. we love you at cnn. >> thank you. i'm thrilled to be here.

and thrilled to have you on. >> well, we lover it. how does it happen? well, what would be an important event is if rick perry or for that matter even tony perkins colluded or agreed with that statement. evangelicals are saying they have the same concerns, the same priorities, jobs and the economy. we have 32 months of ungrowth, no growth. and that's what they're going to be voting on. this is a skirmish. but it's not dispositive in any way in the primary certainly for the perry campaign. >> paul, would you agree with mary on that, especially when you get to the primaries in the south, just a nonissue? >> no. i wish i -- i wish you were right. i think mary is putting hope over reality. i think the only prejudice that the poll has seen go up. george romney, governor of michigan. had been an auto company ceo before that. he ran for president in 1968 and his mormon faith was never even raised as an issue. tragically in america, it's the

one declared prejudice that some people seem more comfortable giving voice to. it's sad. it is not rick perry's fault. i don't believe he put this pastor up to it. pastor is responsible for his comments. i don't believe in holding politicians accountable for everything their supporters say and yet perry is missing an opportunity here. when i worked with bill clinton, sisser is sole gentleman, an artist, gave a comment during riots in los angeles which she said black people kill each other all the time. maybe we should have a week where we kill white people. bill clinton went to the rainbow coalition and he called her out. he said it was wrong. and rick perry needs to show that kind of strength. it is essential when you see prejudice in your own movement to call it out. and to say that it's wrong. i don't -- i'm not saying rick perry is a prejudice man. but i am saying he is a weak

leader. he's not showing the strength he needs to show. he should label this prejudice as what it is. >> do you think he should have used stronger words to distance himself from it? >> erin, i know you probably already know this about paul, but he would like nothing for us to have a distracting conversation. rick perry does not think what was said, tony perkins doesn't think morm onism is a cult. there is no issue greater for any american, republican or democrats or independent than jobs in r and the economy. and if you think there is no prejudice against any religions, he well knows because we share faith, catholics are still lamented in many quarters. so it's a side show. it's not going to be part of this election cycle. and i disagree tactically and strategically that perry needs to do any more than what he did. he needs to stay on his message. get back to his message. i'm a good jobs creator. i'm a leader. >> well, let me move on to our next -- the person i haven't

mention who had is doing so well. obviously i'm talking about with "the washington post" called th hermanator. when you look at new hampshire, the poll just released in the past hour has cain in second place. he is up ten points from the last poll. mary, is cain the real deal? >> yes, he is for a number of reasons. people really -- the more they hear the 999 economic plan, they like the specificity. they like the philosophy under it. they like his happy warrior posture. so he is real. but i know paul will agree with this. it's better to be the outliar who shows and then ties and in some polls is leading. that's the preferred position. when you come in as a front-runner, you're in the pinata position. a couple weeks at that position takes anybody -- i don't know anybody that hasn't gone down a couple of notches. i think in the next debate, mr. cain who has been a terrific candidate and a good articulaor of the conservative message is going to be in the pinata

position. >> that is noes always a good place to be. but paul, let me ask you though from the president's perspective. at this point, who is he hoping is his adversary when push comes do shove? of the three frontrunners, i guess it could be somebody else but who does he not want to run against? >> the carter white house famously apparently and wolf blitzer confirmed this they sat around and said we want reagan. we want reagan. they got reagan, didn't they? so i think it's not my natural profile here.

but i'm very humble about this. i think with the economy in the dumps wshgts republicans frankly i think trying to hurt the economy in order to help themselves politically, anybody who runs against the president is going to give him a very, very tough race. i don't think democrats should sit around sort of hoping it's mr. cain or congressman bachmann or governor perry or mitt romney. i can't pick. to me, all of them want essentially end medicare and privatise or abolish social security and none of them are my cup of tea. i don't want to pick a favorite. >> well, it was fun to you have both together. i like getting a share of the sparks. thanks to paul and mary. have a great weekend. >> you, too, erin. say for the first time we heard conrad morey's voice. the prosecution played an audio tape of the first police interview with where the doctor spoke of jackson's propofol use. >> you administrated more than ten times? >> yes. >> more than 20 times? >> 30 days a month. >> roughly? >> every day. >> so daily. >> daily. with the exception of three days leading up to his death. >> ted rollins is outside the court. ted, so what did you take away from hearing the tape?

>> well, erin, it was riveting. and everybody was listening intently here. basically murray takes you through what was going through his mind. he takes you through all the medication that's he gave jackson. what you take away from it though, there was no mention of the telephone calls to his girlfriends and to his office. and he's off by an hour on the time line. when you look at the phone records, it could be trouble for him and his defense. because it just doesn't add up. the timing. and there's no mention in his side of the story of getting on the telephone at all. >> and i know that his defense attorneys are trying to prove that it was another sedative responsible for michael jackson's death, not the propofol. it seems to debunk that, doesn't it? >> not necessarily. what we heard today kind of goes along with that. in that he gave the new drug that the defense wants to bring

into question. they'll have their own expert they bring on next week and they'll be able to make or break their case. >> so does it seem that when you already have this audio tape happening, ted, from what you thought of a few days ago, things are moving pretty quickly. whether do you think the defense will start? >> absolutely things are moving very quickly. we expect the prosecution to wrap up their case early next week. there is no court on monday. and then we expect the defense to get the case next week and defense attorneys claim they going to go a week or two. to two or three days. there is a chance that both sides could finish by the end of next week. >> great. have a great weekend. the justice department says alabama's tough new immigration law invites discrimination and the fbi joins the search for a missing baby in kansas city. and italy's prime minister berlusconi, seriously.

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resignation berlusconi. now his party is suffering record low popularity and this week the ratings agency moodys downgraded the country's debt adding to the economic pain. that is not the reason the story makes us say seriously. no, that is because of what berlusconi said yesterday. during a meeting with his party deputies, berlusconi joked that because of his party's terrible polling numbers and his own reputation for, shall we say, carousing, they should change the name of their party from go italy to something else. the new name suggested is much to inappropriate for me to repeat on any television channel but other members of the press tried to describe the name of the party in english. so one said, "it was reuters said a vulgar slang team for female genitalia. and then reuters took it a step

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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about. we focus on our own reporting. we made the calls and found the out front five. number one, dallas pastor who introduced governor rick perry at the values voters summit today told voters that a vote from mitt romney would lend credibility to a cult. congressman jason chappin' came out front. here's what he told us. there are 14 million mormones that would beg to differ with the pastor's analysis. i would like to meet the pastor, share a soda with him and talk about the mormon church. i'm glad to see governor perry glad to distance himself from his comments. mitt romney has not yet responded to the pastor's comments. number, two the justice department filing an emergency motion to block alabama's tough new immigration laws. the law includes mandatory check on the immigration status of school kids.

now this has caused thousands of hispanic children to be pulled out of school, migrant workers who disappeared from local farms. alabama governor robert bentley says he is not backing down in response to a call from out front today, the doj appeal is no surprise. he remains committed to seeing the law fully implemented. and number three, iowa moving up its caucus. the first vote traditionally been cast and now going to be moving to january 3rd. by the way, this has been just a race among the states. here's a few. florida moved the prime arizonay to january 31st. south carolina to the 21st. nevada, caucus on the 14th. but all eyes are on new hampshire and whether they'll stay the first primary state. there is the iowa news from out front tonight. and number four, consumer borrowing. falling by $9.5 billion in august. now economists actually expect

it to rise. so we called an analyst to see what happened. he said maybe not really. probably an anomaly because, well, consumer sentiment was a very tough number. people might have spent less. but keep in mind americans, just regular american citizens have tightened their belts a lot over the past few years. consumer credit debt is off the 2008 high by more than $136 billion. americans are getting their financial house in order. not so, our government. it has been 63 days sin the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? today marks ten years since the war began in afghanistan. nearly 100,000 troops are still there. 1700 have lost their lives. now the plan is to bring 30,000 of those soldiers home next summer. but while we may be decreasing our boots on the ground, the military is boosting its

presence in the air. we're talking about the american drone program. since 2001, drones killed more than 2,000 militants in the war against terror and civilians as well which is part of the story here, too. former cia and dhs official chad sweet is out front tonight to talk about america's weapon of choice. chad, tell me how important are drones? i know you spent a lot of time working with them both at the cia and the dhs. >> this is probably the single most effective tool for 21st century counter-terrorism as we've seen, as you mentioned a moment ago, over 2,000 militants have taken off the battlefield in less than -- since 2006. and what makes it incredibly effective is when you compare it to historic military combat, the extremely low level of civilian casualties. now that being said, it's something that has to be used surgically and thoughtfully and this kinetic tool which is extremely effective at the end of the day will only be a holding pattern until we can win the battle of hearts and minds.

>> let me ask you a quick follow. i was just in pakistan and talking to several young men who opted to not pursue terrorism. they talk about how they know people killed in drone attacks. i wonder, can we get them better so that we don't have such collateral damage? drones have been so successful in taking out the top al qaeda operatives. >> i think in terms of precision, it's hard to imagine them being more precise than they are. at some level we have to recognize that war by definition is a dirty business. but i think your fundamental question is right. we can't rely on this alone. this is one tool in the tool kit. at the end of the day if you talk to the former head of the special operations command eric olson, he'll tell you this military kinetic force is used as a holding pattern ultimately just like in the fight against communism, we have to win the war of hearts and minds. >> so, chad, let me ask you, we have about 7,000, correct me if i'm wrong, of drones. we have predator drones. one of which was responsible for the al qaeda leader being

killed. so what are the 7,000 drones doing every day? >> it's a combination of two functions. like you said, spying and striking. so on the spy side, they're one of the most effective isr intelligence sur valance and reconnaissance tools that we have. and we can do -- deploy these other r over areas for a long period of time. they don't require putting a human being at risk. and they can stay overhead for long periods and they're very quiet. at dhs, we use them as well. the human smugglers trying to get across the border don't hear them. so they're extremely effective on both striking and surveillance. >> and a lot cheaper. $40 million versus aircraft at $135 million, a lot cheaper, especially given the cuts we

have if defense. quickly before we go, drones, can they be used without our knowledge in the u.s. to spy on people, to take out a terrorist who might be in the u.s.? >> they could. but let's bear in mind that right now the faa does not allow uads in the conventional airspace. they can only operate in limited military and at the border. however, we already have surveillance platforms in the forms of helicopters and other low level aircraft. so i think the fundamental problem that you raise is not something that people should feel as unique to uavs and as a country of due process and civil liberties we have a good system in place to protect those. >> chad, thanks very much. look forward to having you on again soon. missouri police captain steve young comes on out front on the case of the missing baby in kansas. and we talked to shah ree blare about the program she launched to help women, oh, yeah, and the camel.

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we do this at the same time every night. our outer circle. first to libya. the u.s. is beefing up its hunt for weapons that have gone missing since the battle for libya began. the fear is that they'll fall into the hands of terrorists. hundreds of fighters launch a fresh attack on cert and commanders say they're close to taking the city. is it true? >> reporter: erin, it does seem that time is finally running out for the gadhafi loyalists.

the field commanders we talked to say they have been better coordinated this time. the biggest operation, more firepower, more men coming in from the east and the west. however, they do say that some of the gadhafi loyalists control the tops of some of the buildings and that often means that those rebel forces have to pull back at the end of the day. but they say they now control 50% of the city. that means they have those gadhafi loyalists more corner. ed. so time definitely running out. >> thank you so much. now to syria. security forces fired on anti-government demonstrators. arwa damon is in beirut tonight. >> reporter: the activities developed a network to demonstrate the organizations. and sometimes they expand to the city level as well. they coordinate amongst themselves. the theme this friday was the syrian national council

represents us. that is a reference to the opposition council. we also saw demonstrators expressing their anger towards russia and china, the two countries that vetoed the resolution. activists believe now that both those countries are culpable that the regime itself will mean bloodshed inside that nation. >> thanks very much. and now to londo moodies downgraded 12 banks to day. max foster is in london tonight. how weak are the banks? >> erin, moodies has actually said this downgrade isn't because british banks are in a weaker financial position. it's actually because moody's thinks that those banks are less likely now to be bailed out by the british government if they get into trouble.

and they probably right about that. but the british finance minister george osborne has been very quick to point out that british banks are in a stronger position than the european rivals because those rivals have much more exposure to greek debt. erin? >> thanks so much, max. good weekend you to. search for a missing missouri baby is ramping up. it's been four days since the baby's father, jeremier win, said he came home after the overnight shift to an unlocked front door. an open window and the discovery that his 10-month-old daughter was gone. his wife at the time was asleep. police say the case looks like an abduction. they don't have any suspects. we sent our own reporter to kansas city. ed, i was looking at the latest. the fbi combing a landfill in kansas earlier. what can you tell us about the search? >> reporter: these fbi teams spent much of the day at a landfill, not too far from this neighborhood here in kansas city. but we're told that this point that search didn't turn up anything, any kind of evidence or any kind of clues that might help them in the search for the missing baby girl, 10-month-old lisa irwin. the home here is the one you see right behind me. authorities say that it was the window on the end of the house there that the mother of the

baby had said or they had found open and believe that might have been a point of entry. but as you mentioned, erin, still no evidence that -- or no indication that perhaps anyone had broken into this home. but what makes this all the more interesting is that kansas city police yesterday saying that parents just abruptly refused to stop -- to continue talking with investigators as they continue to ask them about this case. however, the parents of 10 mold-month-old went on the morning shows today and said that wasn't true. they were still wanting to talk to authorities. but we're told here in kansas city that despite having said that, this morning they have not spoke within authorities all day to day. erin? >> ed, thank you very much. we're going to find out more about that right now. initially police says the family was working with them to help find lisa, the baby. but in a statement just last night, cops said all cooperation stopped. so listen to what lisa's parents told matt lauer about that this

morning on "today." >> we tell everybody that we're, you know, we're still cooperating. we're still talking to the police. we're doing everything we can to try to find lisa and bring her back home. >> our number one focus is her. >> we want to bring in kansas city, missouri, police captain steve young. he's been in charge of the investigation since it started. you just heard lisa's parents talking to matt lauer. are they cooperating or not? have you talked to them today? >> reporter: well, it's been a little while since i've had an update. the last bit of information i had is we still have not talked to the parents. >> and still there is an abduction? they're not suspects? >> you know, we don't have any suspects at this time. >> and let me ask you, one of the things about the story is the 10-month-old baby which is tragically missing. there was an older -- two older children who were home at the time that the baby disappeared. i believe they were 6 and 8. have you been able to talk to them or learn anything from

them? >> you know, i can't comment on the details of the investigation or, you know, map out everything that the detectives have done. but i can assure you that detectives have done everything that we could think of. >> we're five days out at this time which it's a long time for a 10-month-old baby. do you think that she's alive? i know you've combed every possible place you could around that home. you are still treating this as an abduction with a live child? >> you know, we're not trying to classify atz anything. the only thing we know is this 10-month-old belongs in this house and nobody's seen her for going on five days now. so we're not calling it anything. we're still full steam ahead. our command post is still in operation and we're chasing down everything we can find. >> in terms of the parents, when do you hope to speak with them again? obviously this whole are they cooperating or not cooperating lends a strange feel to this whole story. >> well, you know, as you might imagine, our main priority, our

number one goal is to find this child. and we absolutely believe that the parents involvement in the investigation is critical to help make that happen. our door is open. it has always been open. >> all right. steve, thank you so much. we very much appreciate you taking the time. we'll talk to you again as you go through this. best of luck. i hope you find the baby. baby referred to as pumpkin pie by her family. next week, coming out front donald trump and michelle bachmann. those are our guests. we're very excited for it. and, well, we're taking a break. but we believe you'll be with us on the other side. why? because we don't think you'll be able to resist this story. got milk? ♪ [ cellphone rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks. so, i used my citi simplicity card to pick up a few things. and i don't have to worry about a late fee. which is good...

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the world's biggest camel ranch is busy at mill amming time. 2500 camels file in groups of 1 for automatic milking twice a day. camels produce half as much milk as cows but less might be more. some people say camel milk is like a miracle drug. it could help cure autism, diabetes, cancer and even aids. that's because camel's stomachs are similar to human ones. that makes a big difference according to veterinarians. >> maybe the magical treatment. >> the united arab emirates is one of the world's biggest producers. but it isn't easy. setting up the first ever auto matted milking for camels was hard because every camel is a slightly different height. martin manages the ranch. >> we see all the humps one after another. it's not like one car in a row,

same model, no. it's different models. all different. >> that's the females. the males, not nearly as pleasant or attractive. >> the ratio of male to female, 1 to 100. >> yes. >> wow. >> all that mating happens in just three months a year. baby camel girls will have about seven off spring. that's 14 years of milk. where there's milk, there's chocolate. chocolate that comes at a serious price. up to $7 a bar. a price the camels, at least, think is well worth paying. >> they do all have personalities. you can, by the way, buy camel chocolate in the united states and there are some ranches. the fda does not allow for the importation of dairy products. so we'll see. we'll keep looking into those health claims. for that and a whole lot of other health foods. but that one, we just ul