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morning. the two-time indianapolis 500 winner died in a painful crash last sunday in a las vegas race. saudi arabia is mourning the loss of a royal family member, the crown prince sultan died earlier today in a new york hospital. he was first in line for the saudi throne and was the country's defense minister. he was believed to be in his 80s. he had been battling cancer. folk music icon pete seeger and arlo guthrie joined occupy wall street protesters. arlo guthrie said the protests reminded him of the unrest of the '60s. an update. the protester that climbed a 70-foot high sculpture finally made his way down safely. when he did he was greeted by police who immediately arrested him. louisiana governor bobby jindal is hoping to hold on the his job today.

the state is holding its gubernatorial primary, a nonpartisan contest where all candidates compete. whoever gets 50% or more of the vote wins the race. here in america and halfway around the world celebrations as the u.s.-led war in iraq draws to a close. a nine year war that has cost the u.s. more than $700 billion. more than 4400 american troops have been killed. and 34,000 injured. president obama has decided to bring the remaining 39,000 u.s. troops in iraq home by the end the year, and only a handful of troops will stay behind to assist iraq in arm sales. in iraq we've succeeded in our strategy to end the war. last year i announced the end of our combat mission in iraq. we've already removed more than 100,000 troops and iraqi forces have taken full responsibility for the security of their own country. thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our men and women

in uniform, the iraqi people have the chance to forge their own future. and now the rest of our troops will be home for the holidays. >> president obama's decision to end the war in iraq means the next couple of months will be filled with welcome home ceremonies. here's what some of the troops and military families are already saying. >> not only is my son coming home safe and sound to us as a family, our family is whole again. and i'm very thankful for the job that him and all his fellow soldiers have done for us. >> time to bring our boys home. it's time for them to come home to their families. they shouldn't have to be over there. >> coming home over the holiday time is great. >> a florida woman was planning a low keyed christmas but not any more. with the war in iraq ending her husband will be home just in time for the holiday.

>> reporter: with giggles and smiles, it's almost as if 7-month-old indiana knows her father will soon be coming home. army reservist first last joshua chapman in iraq since august. his wife brandy, thrilled. >> my first reaction is yippee. to have him home early because obviously he was looking at like 400 days or something. >> reporter: with president obama's announcement that all troops will be withdrawn from iraq, chapman should be back in the bay area just in time for the holidays. no low key christmas is planned any more. >> just want to have a big sh shindig. just celebrate. it's really big. >> reporter: soon no more constant worrying. >> i feel, i guess, lucky in a sense that i didn't have to be away from my husband that long, but i mean it's hard. i mean it really, really is hard. >> reporter: she says she's

talked to her husband about the withdrawal and he says soldiers' morale have picked up and are ready to pack up and head out. now this wife is just waiting. >> now that you know they are is going to be home you just want them to get home. let's pray nothing happens for just this last month or two. >> reporter: so that indiana can trade in her daddy doll for the real thing. >> reaction to the iraq withdrawal in washington is mixed. cnn athena jones joins us from the white house on more with that. in what way? >> reporter: certainly if you talk to democrats you'll hear one thing and if you talk to republicans you'll hear another. from the administration's point of view this is an example of a promise kept. president obama ran on the idea that the war in iraq needed to be wound down so that we could focus more efforts, the u.s. could focus efforts on afghanistan. leading up to the war in iraq he

was against it, called at it rash war, a dumb war and his opposition to the war in iraq is something that set him apart from his other candidates in the democratic parties last time around and so the idea here is that he's done what he said he was going to do. let's listen to what secretary of state hillary clinton had to say. she's traveling in asia and spoke earlier today. >> this marks a new phase in our relations with iraq. president obama promised the iraqi people and the american people that all our combat troops in iraq would come home by the end of this year, and they will. that will end the war. and it will open a new chapter in our relationship. >> reporter: so there you have it. when it comes to republicans, the response has been a lot more critical. you have democrats applauding

this move saying it's going a victory for taxpayers, it shows the efforts and sacrifices of the american soldiers and troops there have led to this great moment. on the republican side you have people thinking, maybe this is too soon to pull out all of our troops. let's listen to what one new hampshire senator had to say. >> i'm proud of the work that my husband did there and the other soldiers and i think that we will be better off in the world in the middle east by having a secure democratic iraq and that's why i believe it's very important that we do not withdraw these troops prematurely. >> reporter: now her husband was an iraq war veteran and she's expressing some of the concerns of members of her party and others about the idea that maybe iraq, can they secure their own -- can they make their own land secure, and what about iran and the influence there? will it grow as the u.s. pulls out? so those are some of the

concerns and some of the criticism. but it's important to remember that this agreement, the security agreements were reached by the bush administration in 2008 to withdraw troops by this date, december 31st. those are two important points to consider. >> thank so you much. stability in the road ahead for the country of libya. that's what a number of people are starting to ponder as well. people fell to their knees in that country. they are ecstatic that moammar gadhafi is dead. they wonder what the new leadership has at hand. we're live from london next. our 4 new rich & hearty soups really have people talking...

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the people of thailand are enduring the most severe flooding in 50 years and the swa water is rising in bangkok. hundreds of thousands of peoples homes are under water. saudi arabia's crown prince has died. he was the half brother of the saudi king, and one of the top political figures in the kingdom. he died early today in new york city at a hospital, reportedly of cancer. and it is election weekend in tunisia. voters there will choose a national assembly when they go to the polls tomorrow. first election in the arab world since this year's wave of popular revolutions removed several regional leaders from power. which now also brings us to libya. moammar gadhafi is dead, nato is

wrapping up operation, and the interim government is planning a democratic election. so what's next for this country and for the region for that matter? let's go to london. professor, good to see you. >> the same here. thank you. >> all right. so, first of all, who were the winners or the losers in what has just happened in libya? and i'm talking about how it happened. yes, we know that the nato air strikes in large part were hoping to remove moammar gadhafi from power, but is this what was envisioned? >> well, i think -- i mean you're raising a big question. i think a cloud will likely overshadow tomorrow's announcements of liberation. how gadhafi was killed, whether he was executed after he was

captured. these are not academic questions as you know. not just the united states and the united nations have called for an investigation, but i think it tells us about the post- gadhafi libya. the role of justice. it should not be tribal vengeance and summary justice like that of iraq. the question of accountability. the libyan people deserve to know even though gadhafi as you well know brutalized libya for many years and institute ad culture of fear, he governed by the sword and died by the sword. we need to know that libya, the post-gadhafi libya will not be ruled by tribal justice but a rule of law. this is a big challenge for the new leadership of libya. >> how does the fall of moammar gadhafi and perhaps the shaping of a new country of libya, how might that symbolize the whole arab spring movement?

>> well, i think what we need to understand is that gadhafi, you know, legacy really brutalized libya. he destroyed the state itself as a set of institutions and replaced it with a cult personality. he squandered billions of dollars of resources. there are no institutions in libya. he manipulated tribal and regional rivalries. that's why the challenges in the new leadership are truly significant. they have to set up and set institutions from the bottom up, brick by brick. they have to mend the rifts that exist. the tribal rifts. they have also to man the ideological differences between islamists and nationalists also. so the reality is the morning after the new leadership will

face tremendous obstacles and challenges and here let me be clear, there will be set backs. the process will not be easy. there is no magical wand for libya. i know in the last few days there has been a great celebration in libya and outside of libya but the reality is that the challenges are tremendous. >> and so how is the u.s. role being defined by way of nato as it pertains to what's taken place here in libya and now even with the u.s. it's recent announcement of pulling out of iraq. how does this resonate in this region? >> i think to his credit, president obama has made all the right moves both in iraq and in libya. i think he made a pledge to the american people and to the iraqi people that he will bring american troops home by the end of 2012, beginning 2013. we know that he basically, he

has carried out his pledge. also in libya, unlike in contrast to his predecessor, president george w. bush, he played it very safe. he kept his distance. he did not want to take ownership of the uprising in libya and i think we can say very safely that in both iraq and libya, his stifle leadership contrasts very radically from that of president bush and i would say that he gains credit both at home and in iraq and libya for taking a very light approach to that part of the world. >> professor, thanks so much for joining us from london. always good to hear from you. >> thank you. actress woodward co-founded artists for a new south africa. she's on a new mission to end aids in africa.

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we're talking about the dose and don'ts of online banking. joining us is now is the president and ceo of yodli, an online banking solution provider. you say online banking provides a radar view of a person's life. let's begin with the dos. you say do explore all that your bank has to offer online. in what way? >> exactly. americans are really stressed when it comes to managing their personal finances. we need help. and banks do a great job of providing free online services that are convenient, that are easy to use, that are safe and secure. it pays to use some of these services such as checking your balances, checking your transactions, paying your bills online or perhaps transferring funds between your accounts and more recently banks have introduced some really exciting new tools that allow to you track your spending, manage your

budgets, plan for retirement. >> okay. so there are lots of tools there. you know, so there really is no excuse as to not being able to manage your money because they are making it easy for you. when you go online how do you find these locations. how do you make sure you're tapping in on all the things that are instructtive for you. >> most banks that have online websites. it's really interesting. when you go online you have many more tools than you would expect. it's really interesting. the vast majority of americans say they would like to budget. very few of them actually do. and you ask why? why is that the case? it's because it's too cumbersome, too difficult and what my company has done working with all of the major banks in the u.s. and worldwide is we simplify it. we make it really easy by allowing you to view all of your accounts in one place with one click. and then we allow you to see how

you're spending with simple graphs and simple charts and that enables you to set up simple budgets and track them. >> there's some things you say do not know. a lot of folks get nervous when they think about online banking. they think immediately i'll become a victim of identity theft. how do i make sure i can protect my information, my transactions, my transfer of monies, et cetera. >> that's an excellent point. one in ten americans is a victim of identity fraud. so, it pays to be pro active. it pays to go online. it pays to check your balances and look for irregular charges. many banks offer identity protection services online as well. >> okay. now you say don't write a check ever again. some folks still want to write a check in large part because, you know, maybe the institution you're working with or someone you're paying, you don't want to do a bank transfer. why do you say eliminate checks

forever? >> well, americans write billions of checks annually. it takes a lot of time. it takes a lot of money. i want takes a lot of effort and many, many stamps as you might imagine. banks allow you to pay anyone any time anywhere for free. so it pays to go online and save time and save money and save effort by paying whoever you want to whether it's a bill or a person online. >> okay. and now, thanks so much for your time. appreciate that and we'll try to be safer and smarter about our money. >> thank you so much. next week the earth's population will reach 7 billion. babies are born worldwide every five seconds. the birth rate in the u.s. is actually going down. senior medical correspondent

elizabeth cohen has more. >> reporter: any parent can tell you kids can be expensive and as the economy has gotten worse people are choosing to have fewer children. if you compare 2007 when the economy was doing well with 2010 we're talking about 300,000 fewer children. take a look at this graph and you can see the correlation. on the far left in 2002 until 2007 things were doing pretty well and that number is going up, up, up, people were choosing to have more children. it hit its peak in 2007 and then coming down ever since. and here's exactly how expensive children can be. it costs between $8,000 and $20,000 a year to raise a child depending upon how fancy the clothes are, whether they go to private or public school, all of that. if you look at the numbers this way, from birth to 18, the cost of raising a child is between $206,000 and $477,000 with housing, food and child care

being the biggest expenses. now it seems that a lot of women are saying i think we're going delay this or not going to have a child right now and of course that makes sense for a lot of families. but also remember if you think oh, i'll just have children when we have more money in our bank account that could be problematic. you may be so old you may need fertility treatments and that could cost a lot of money. back to you. thanks. from horror movies to humor, here's a new selection of movies at your local theater tonight. >> let's even the odds. >> the three muskete everyone rs make a return to the big screen. what does our movie critic think of this remake? that's later this hour.the big . what does our movie critic think of this remake? that's later this houo the big .

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our top stories. occupy wall street protester who climbed a 70-foot high sculpture finally came down, carefully. early the protester who is from canada promised he would stay put until new york's mayor michael bloomberg resigned. bloomberg is still in office and when the protester did climb down police immediately arrested

him. officials at the new hampshire food bank say feeding hungry families this holiday season will be hard. they are running a shortage on turkeys and other food items. the food banks executive director says their normal sources for food and cash donations have dried up. president obama announced this week that the remaining 39,000 american troops will be coming home from iraq soon but that decision doesn't come without controversy. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is here to tell us why withdrawing from iraq comes with some pitfalls. >> reporter: there are some important reasons why the president had to make this decision, but it does come with some real risks. some 39,000 american troops are still spread out over 18 bases in iraq. and they've all got ten weeks to get out. >> today i can say that our troops in iraq will definitely be home for the holidays.

>> reporter: the u.s. military is running up to 400 transportation convoys a week and has moved out more than 1.5 million pieces of equipment. it was president bush who signed an agreement with iraq to remove all american troops by the end of this year. obama made it a campaign promise when he ran for president. and one of his potential opponents for election questioned whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineventitude in negotiations with the government. those negotiations broke down because iraq would not extend immunity to troops. >> the president will insist our troops having what they need no matter where they are. >> reporter: a pentagon official said american troops are sometimes prosecuted in local courts where there's an established legal system. like germany or japan.

but they would not want american troops tried in iraqi courts under iraqi law. current and former pentagon officials have been raising alarms about iran's growing power in iraq. >> i'm worried about iranian influence. >> reporter: and now with tab sense of american troops the u.s. will have to find other ways to blunt iran's influence. >> as i told prime minister maliki, we'll continue discussions on how we might help iraq train and equip its forces. >> reporter: the u.s. military won't have a standing presence in iraq. but a senior defense official tells cnn the pentagon is not backing away from a relationship with the iraqi military. he says they can invite new iraqi officers to american war colleges to combine training missions in a third host country. there will be a small number of american troops left in iraq. about 150. but they will be working under the u.s. embassy and its

protection. also staying in iraq, american diplomats and nearly 10,000 private contractors. thanks so much, chris. the u.s. troop withdrawal from iraq has had an immediate impact on iran. iranian president, mahmoud ahmadinejad is reacting. we have an exclusive interview with him in tehran. >> president obama has said that all american troops will be out of iraq by the end the year. in light of this announcement will your government increase its efforts to train the iraqi army since there will be a need in iraq for training and support, will the iranian government be providing greater support in that area?

>> translator: i think we should have done it sooner, maybe seven or eight years ago, and they could avoid killing so many iraqi people or americans as well. i think they should have done it much earlier. but the people and the iraqi government did not accept the increased presence of the americans. the iraqi government is independent and sovereign. they should decide how to provide training for their military personnel. >> you can see more of the interview with iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern time. iran ran-americans from around the country are gathering actually in front of the white house this afternoon.

they turned out to urge a regime change in iran and show support for the u.s. government's uncovering of a plot to assassinate the saudi ambassador to the u.s. that plot linking that planned assassination with the iranian government. cnn ireporters are out early to see this weekend's new movie releases and here's what brett martin thinks about the movie "paranormal 3." >> the long wait for something happen dragged the film down. >> okay. movie critic, she's going to be weighing in as well. you don't want to miss her review next. but first, do you know what's the top haunted hotel in the u.s.? the queen mary, stanley hotel, hawthorne hotel or bourbon or liens? -- orleans. the answer right after this. this is $100,000.

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before the break we asked you what is the top haunted hotel in the u.s.? according to travelocity if you answered b the stanley hotel then you are correct. this is the hotel where author

steven king stayed apparently when he came up with the book "the shining" before it became a frightening movie. there have been reports of phantom piano players and thieving spirits. you don't want to stay there if you're weak in the knees. it's saturday and you're thinking of heading to a theater. maybe you want to take in a thriller. our movie critic is with us today. good to see you. halloween, oh, my gosh a week or so away. so people really get excited about seeing some kind of thriller, scary stuff. we'll begin with paranormal activity, number 3. let's take a quick peek. >> what's going on. >> christie, i saw you talking to somebody. >> i know. >> he's my friend. >> don't see him. >> standing right next to you. >> honey, he's not there. >> christie, say hi to the

camera. >> i won't see this. this is about two little sisters who, i don't know, i guess sense or feel or discover that there's another being that is in the house. so, do you like that kind of thing? >> i like that. >> listen, i thought that my home videos of my great aunt millicent are crazy? no. this movie delivers way more scares than the second one and the thing about it is the series is liked or disliked for the exact same reasons. long static shots. kind of slow. but then it blind sides you out of nowhere and this movie takes that to a whole new level. i loved it. >> you kill me. >> yes. ah-ha. you and i will go to the theater and i will be a rock because -- you will hear nothing and may not even see anything because i'll be the loudest one in the theater and then arms may be

flailing so you won't see anything. you don't want to see a scary movie with me because i'll ruin it for you. >> this movie has an ending that made me say what in the theater really loud. it's just fantastic. this movie i think makes this series one of the strongest trilogies of all time. right up there with "lord of the rings" and "toy story". they have so much to say. >> you gave it a great grade. >> i did. "casper the friendly ghost" it ain't. >> "the three musketeers". a remake. let's take a look. >> about 2:00 i'd say. >> look out of the window. >> they weren't decoys. i was.

>> okay. so in the spirit of halloween a little dress up in this movie. how about that? is that enough to hold our attention? >> well, i would rather spend the next two minutes talking about "the three musketeers" candy bar than this movie. but, yeah. you know what? one thing you're not is going hear me say again is that charlie sheen did it better. >> really? >> this remake -- yeah. you know what the older versions of this movie had more pizzaass and more mass can you line surprising and everything the musketeers should be. this one was passive and had some good fight scenes and a good climax with goodyear blimps warring and on fire. they forgot a script, i think. >> really? >> yeah. >> had the feeling of kind of ad lib qualities. no common thread?

>> i mean it did have a thread because anderson makes movies that are pretty to watch and he's not a total rube. but it just wasn't exciting or as dashing and debonair and wonderful as "the three musketeers" should be. they focused too much on her character and except for her running in slow motion this movie doesn't deliver anythings el else. it doesn't do a lot of justice in 3d. save your money. i gave it a c minus. >> that's below average. you have me on the whole charlie sheen thing. he was in the three musketeers flick? >> oh, was he. along with keefer suthrland. i looked back at it and i went

no it's a better movie. even the gene kelly version is better than this. >> the makers of that movie will be happy to get that plug. the makers of this one not so much. thanks so much. appreciate it. of course, remember, you can get all of her movie greats at fandango. coming up a deer struggling -- oh, my gosh that's hard to watch, struggling for hours to free himself. there's good news at the end and we'll tell you what a game warden actually did to try to save that buck. this is $100,000.

we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money ? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. where they grow america's favorite wpotatoes. idaho, everyone knows idaho potatoes taste great. but did you know they're good for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry the heart checkmark from the american heart association for foods low in saturated fat and cholesterol. so they're good for my family, and for yours. heart smart idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal.

okay. this video is hard to watch, i'm sorry. it really is. there is a happy ending. you see this buck got stuck with this rope tangled up on the antlers. that gentleman came along, shot it with a tranquilizer gun. they cut the antlers.

they do grow back. >> there's a weather angle. when there's a lot of snow on the ground the deer uses the antlers to move snow to get the food they want. >> that's incredible. they essentially restricted its means of getting food. >> and a babe. women are attracted during the mating season. >> apparently they did cut the antlers because they are appealing for hunters. >> hi, everyone. let's talk weather. it's saturday. hope you have a great day. big picture on the whole beautiful conditions all beat it chilly start today. same scenario tomorrow. also only a little concern here right around arkansas, texas, oklahoma city some rain moving through. this area of low pressure bringing some storms. nothing too severe but that's the only quadrant of the country that should see rough weather. northern tier of the country

cooler than average for the next few months. warmer in the deep south. wetter in the northern tier which bodes well for skiers. wyoming will see great conditions and northern colorado as well. if you're a skier looks like an a plus winter four. back to you. >> looks like we'll be getting on the slopes early. after a career spent covering stories from all over the world a journalist and a cnn executive tackles one very close home to. it's the story of his own family. mark whittaker talks about all of that in his family memoir, "my long trip home.

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time for our cnn politics update. we're keeping an eye on the latest headlines at cnnpolitics.com desk. republican presidential candidate rick perry is spending all day in iowa. the first in the nation caucus state. at this hour he's speaking at a family farm in the town of wilton. he started the day hunting for pheasants and tonight he attends the conservative faith and freedom forum in des moines.

skipping that event however gop front-runner mitt romney instead he visited his campaign headquarters and the first in the nation primary state new hampshire. the former massachusetts governor will officially file for that ballot on monday. a potential presidential contender in 2016, vice president joe biden said right now he's focused on getting president obama re-elected. but he suggested to candy crowley he may launch his own bid down the road. catch the interview tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. for the latest political news you know exactly where to go, cnn politics.copolitics.com.

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is today. i spoke with whitaker about his long trip home. >> you're very accomplished scholar journalist and then you get to this point where you say you know what? i'm not going write about that. i'm is going write about something very intimate, very personal. what was that, i guess evolution of thinking? >> i had thrown myself into my work for 30 years as a journalist partly to get away from my childhood and my upbringing and a lot of the pain that had been involved. but when i finally decided that i was ready to write the story, it was, i think, my training as a journalist that first of all allowed me to report the story, but also gave me a little bit of the emotional detachment that i needed to put it in perspective as i went along. >> the relationship with your father was one that you

struggled with for a good part of your life. >> it's interesting because when people who over the years had heard about my story said you should write a book one day they knew sort of the romantic parts. so my parents were an interracial couple that met in the 1950s, illegal in most states in the country at that time. my father was a student, an undergraduate. my mother was his teacher. so, you know, it was illicit in that sense too, a teacher/student relationship. they had to keep the relationship secret for a couple of years before they married. >> so, you were real conflicted too, weren't you, because you write your dad was very charismatic, you adored him. he was at the root of depression four. >> i had for better or worse a 50 year relationship with my father. through a lot of twists and turns and ups and downs you see in the book and part of the story is the evolution of my

feelings towards my father, worshipped as a young child, depression when i was separated from him, incredible clashes we had when i was a teenager and his life was falling apart, a kind of gradual getting after he finally stopped drinking we actually got on better terms but i was very prideful, i was establishing my own career and my own family. i didn't need his help. >> writing this was a personal journey for your. trying to piece this relationship together. when you decided to write this it really came as a result of the death of your dad. >> that's right. he died two days after thanksgiving 2008 at 2:30 in the morning. i know this because the next morning i had a voice mail from his which, to his third wife who was with him, starched 2:30 in the morning saying he had passed away. and i thought, you know, not only is he gone, at that point i thought if i had ever thought about writing about him, you know, that's over, i can't talk to him and so