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medications because they make money and states need to do a better job of catching them. >> elizabeth cohen, thanks. >> cnn newsroom continues right now with randi kaye. >> first the no comment then a vague recollection then a whole lot of newly remembered details. through it all herman cain has flatly denied treating female employees in an inappropriate matter while ahead of the national restaurant association. after new fewer than five speeches and interviews yesterday, the top tier gop presidential hopeful answered questions this morning on our sister network hln. before you hear a clip, i want you to hear why so many questions remain. >> if the restaurant association did a settlement, i am not -- i wasn't even aware of it. i am unaware of any sort of settlement. i was aware that an agreement was reached. the word settlement versus the
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word agreement you know, i'm not sure what they called it. and yes, that was some sort of settlement or termination and i don't even know what the contents of that was. >> well, he came out this morning that cain had a pretty good recognition of the settlement from the outset. >> she was making huge claims about sexual harassment. i do recall she was asking for a lrnlg sum of money. i don't remember what the sum of money was. as the review of this moved forward, that sum of money negotiated my attorney and negotiated with her attorney got less and less and less because her attorney started to figure out, she didn't have a valid claim. she couldn't find people to corroborate these things she was making and so as it got smaller and smaller and smaller it turned out to be from my perspective, which is why i didn't go back and ask to see
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it, more of a separation agreement rather than some sort of legal settlement. >> so is this a political pothole, a brick wall or wind fall? we'll look at the impact on the cain campaign in our fair game segment later on this hour. our other big story comes from the only field more volatile and faster changing that politics, the stock markets, they cheered when europe came to term on debt on bailouts now they are plunging on a bombshell decision by greece to put that agreement to a nationwide vote. cnn'sals cnn's alison kosik joins me. >> they are worried that last week's big european debt plan may not happen at all. we all thought it was a done deal. as you said, greece's prime minister wants people in greece to go ahead and vote on it and the reality is it may not pass because it would include job cuts, pension cuts, higher taxes
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and raising retirement age. the big worry is that the euro zone future is at stake. that could reverb rate here to the u.s. >> good news though on the debit card front, something we've been hearing a lot of about. more and more debit card holders are dodging those fees, what's going on there? >> it turns out bank of america is calling off the $5 debit fee all together. it started backing down a little bit last week saying some customers would be exempt. now it says we're going to scrap it all together. this is coming after other big banks have dropped their fees on debit cards. regions bank will be ending today and sun trust and chase and wells fargo because of all of the customer outrage we've reported on. this one really hit a nerve with consumers and the banks are backing down, randi? >> that is good news for
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consumers, alison kosik, nice to see you. still suffering from the big snowstorm, more than 1.5 million customers in five states began the day without electricity as utility company workers struggle to restore service. the snowstorm that hit the northeast last weekend downed tree branches and power lines and blamed for 15 deaths. secretary of state hillary clinton has lost her mouth, dorothy howell rodham died at the age of 92. there's no word on the cause of her death. clinton canceled a trip to be with her mother in her final hours. the doctor is giving president obama a clean bill of health. the white house issued a report on the most recent physical exam. it says he's fit for duty and will likely remain in excellent health for the rest of his presidency. it also appears mr. obama has been successful in his efforts to give up smoking. the report said he was found to be tobacco free. take a look at this dramatic
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emergency landing in poland today. this polish airlines plane was carrying 230 people from newark, new jersey when the landing gear failed to work. the boeing 767 circled the airport for an hour before it landed as you see there right on its belly. incredibly no one was hurt. >> they are camming out in cities across the country and around the world, occupy wall street. some call it the beginning of the liberal offensive. what this movement can accomplish, we'll go in depth. st. louis cardinals manager tony la russa announced his retirement yesterday, just three days after his team won the world series, he was a major league manager for 33 seasons, 16 of them with the cardinals. he is the third winningest manager. and for all of that and more, tony, you are today's rock star. [ male announcer ] if you're only brushing,
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have you ever looked for a new pair of shoes online and started to get ads for the exact same pair on other sites? have you ever wondered why you see your friend's activity listed on facebook and not others? it's because of sophisticated personization filters that tailer the web to our taste. we're joined by eli, the author "the filter bubble." help us understand why this works and why it has dangerous consequences. >> increasingly online we don't see the same thing. if you load up google and i load up google and we search for the same term we may see different results because google and lots of other companies are getting massive amounts of theater,
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collecting as much data as they can about each user and trying to show us what we think they want to see, not necessarily what we need to know. that's a problem because there are important things that can get edited out. >> i want to read a quote for viewers from eric schmit, the ceo of google, it will be hard for people to watch or consume something that has not in some sense been tailorred for them. >> is there a way to know which sites aren't filtering content? >> right now it's very difficult. you know, it's very hard to tell if the version of yahoo! news that you're seeing is anything like the version of the yahoo! news someone else is seeing. yahoo! announced it was doing 13 million different versions of the home page every day based on this kind of user data. this is one of the problems with personalization, there's nothing wrong with showing people things they want to see necessarily, but because it's invisible to us and because it's being done
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without our consent basically and because it means that thesal ga rhythms are making big editing choices without our input, you can get a distorted view of the world and not know you're getting it. >> i know you say there are 57 different signals that google looks at to tailor your results. can you give us the key signals? >> well, you know, the 57 signals that the engineer that i interviewed talked about, you know are signals even if you're not logged in. if you take a new computer and put it on your desk, google is looking at things where you're logging in and what kind of software you're using and how long you're lingering over a link before clicking it. that gives a sense of what kind of person you are, are you moving quickly or slowly? that in turn allows it to enable content. >> if your results are filtered,
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is there any way figure out what you're not getting, what is being filtered? >> well, most of these companies sort of bury somewhere in their privacy policies the ability to turn this down or filter feeds, but we don't think that's good enough. as we're moving into this world where algarhythms are doing -- where code is doing many of the things editors used to do in the 20th century world, we need the code to do as good as information as editors and producers did at their best in the 20th century world. >> yeah, anyone who might be watching might be wondering, where does this stop? is it computers smartphones ipads? >> it is happening everywhere and mobile is the big frontier. all of the information that comes from your phone comes from your location attached most of the time. so where you go obviously says a
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lot about you and these companies are gathering that data and using it to target ads and also to target content. the danger here was summed up by mark zuckerberg who said the great thing about the facebook news feed is that a squirrel dying in your front yard may be morrell vant to you than people dying in africa. that's the quote from him. i think we need to know about both. we don't just want to be looking at the front yards. >> absolutely. thank you so much. that was a very interesting discussion. appreciate it. occupy wall street is a lot of things to a lot of people. to my next guest social securit in the making when we come back. when an investment lacks discipline,
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politicians don't know what to make of the occupy movement and st. paul's is struggling too, a long way from wall street today decided not to event occupiers who have camped out for two and a half weeks now. here at home we've had crackdowns and court orders and now in iowa a plans for a caucus occupation, targeting, what elimination, the iowa presidential caucuses. turbulent times make great history and that brings me to bestd seller author and historian douglas brinkley. nice to have you on the show. we've heard a lot of parallels with protest movements in the past. what does occupy wall street remind you of? >> it has little bits of 20th century protest movements,
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reminds me of the 1960s a little bit, college campuses unrest and a lot of young people throughout the time counter culture attitude going after the man, going after corporate structure. this protest however is aimed at wall street, not the federal government, at least at this juncture. it was a march for jobs at march for washington. this was unique, when 1992 when clinton became president, e-mail doesn't exist. and by the time he left a million were rick co-chaing around the world. this is a movement connected to the air of uprising and it's unique. at any moment people with text or e-mail each other and say let's meet at the given time and set up the rally spots around the world. >> it is fascinating how easy it
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is to organize these days. a lot of people said this movement doesn't have a leader. do you agree with that? >> yeah, it has a leader, the leader is the internet. it doesn't have a particular face. you can have old timers like pete seger coming down to sing a song but right now there's not a person, in that way it resembles the tea party movement. wall street i would say, michael moore is the his torial figure that comes to mind. he came out with a book and started to talk about this issue and his documentary dealt with wall street and how the american middle class is getting reamed. i think when it gets written about 50 or 100 years from now, michael moore's name will be a vote. >> when it does get written about him, what will the place
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be in history, do you think? >> it's a work in progress. we don't know right now. i think you can say it's helped president obama. really ever since the health care debate and birth of the tea party movement and then the midterm shellacking, you see the president in a defensive crouch. once his jobs act didn't go through and this occupation wall street happened it gave people to vent at president obama, in this case the fat cats and investment banks and people getting away with ripping off the american people. >> do you see it continuing to grow or do you think it will fizzle out? >> well, with winter coming out they survived the snowstorm. if you're looking at the wall street occupation, you'll have the wildfire protests occurring with the election year coming up. whether it's something
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occupation wall street can be sustainable through the cold winter months and grow in numbers, it suddenly becomes 100,000 people taking to the streets of new york is yet to be seen. in some ways this has a little bit in mind of the original earth day in 1970 when a lot of young people started creating earth day regularly and protesting year after year. so there are elements here of a lot of things but i think it's all going to depend on the way the economy goes and what happens in this election. i doubt very much if barack obama gets re-elected you would see this two years from now happening. it seems to be of the moment and as the tea party blames democrats and obama, occupation wall street is blaming wall street and republicans. >> yeah, it's certainly interesting to watch it all unfollowed. douglas, we appreciate your insight. the defense is back on the stand striing to prove conrad
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murray's innocence. will his testimony push michael jackson's former doctor to take the stand? that's next in crime and consequence. but first, on this day in 1991, a university of iowa graduate student with a grudge goes on a shooting rampage. he targeted members of the physics department, five people were killed and another was badly wounded. and the shooter took his own life. that is today's shame in history. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker...
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possibly the verdict as well. i want to go straight to mark gera gos. what do you make of murray's decision not to testify? >> well, you labeled it, breaking news, i label it as obvious. i didn't think there was any way once the prosecution put on that tape of his that the defense was ever going to let him testify in this case. >> yesterday it was pretty heated day in court. i know you had a chance to watch some of it. dr. paul white the key witness for the defense is now going to be fined apparently $1,000 for sharing some of his personal conversations with conrad murray. it's sort of a way to get the story out there without putting murray on the stand. is that a good tactic? >> yeah, i think it is actually. you know, i understand what the judge did. i don't fault dr. white for it in the least. i think he's in a tough
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situation. you've got a judge who wants this trial over and he's trying to reign it in. this morning he's been a little irritated as well, the judge has. thsz the defense's most crucial witness. most judges i think would give him some latitude. and this cross-examination frankly in my opinion is the most critical part of this trial, whether he withstands the cross-examination by david walgren is going to i think in a lot of ways determine what way this jury goes. >> obviously there are two sides to how this went down. the prosecution believes that conrad murray gave jackson the fatal dose of propofol. but the defense is saying that jackson injected himself very quickly, that's what dr. paul white is saying. let's listen to dr. white in court yesterday. >> michael jackson walking around, wheeling the i.v. stand attached at a a condom catheter and conrad murray is somewhere else on phone. that's the assumption under lying your scenario, correct?
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>> with all that jackson was hooked up to, it sounds like walgren, the prosecutor was making this scenario sound pretty ridiculous. did it work? i don't know. i commented earlier, david has got a great way about him and jurors like him. i've known him for a long time and known those who tried cases with him. he builds up a lot of capital, goodwill with the jury. at the same time, a lot of jurors find it distasteful if you beat up a witness too unfairly or rude or obnoxious to them. i don't think that was the case here but at the same time, if i were a betting man, i still think this looks like it's programmed for a hung jury. >> really? hung jury. is that the scenario you think this is going to end with? >> yeah, if i had to predict, i would say you're looking at the 9-3, 10-2 favor of guilt hung
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jury. i'll make that prediction, now you've got it on tape. >> we do have it on tape. i'll hold you to it. what do you think they'll be hung up on? what will be the problem? >> i think that this is exactly what the issue is going to come down to. there's a jury instruction the judge will give. it's going to talk about first of all his gross negligence and i don't think there's going to be any dispute in the jury room about the gross negligence. clearly he was deviated from the standard of care, even dr. white admits that. the key to the case will be the causation, did that gross negligence cause michael jackson's death? there's a word in that jury instruction talking about intervening cause. intervening, something else, the defense will say michael jackson was the intervening cause and the result was his death. that's where the battle is going to be. some jurors i think may have problems with that.
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>> all right, we'll hold you to it to see if your prediction is correct. nice to see you. herman cain finally sticking to one story. >> i have never committed sexual harassment in my entire career, period. >> will damage control clear his name or cause more damage? that is fair game next. first, our political junkie question of the day, since 1900, which third party candidate captured the largest percentage of the presidential vote? the answer is just ahead. (screams) when an investment lacks discipline, it's never this obvious. introducing investment discipline etfs from russell. visit russelletfs.com r a prospectus, containing the investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and other information. read and consider it carefully before investing.
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percentage of the presidential vote. the answer is teddy roosevelt, he ran as the progressive candidate in 1912, he got 27% of the vote this year finishing second behind woodrow wilson but beating out incumbent william howard taft. hope you got that right. time to go to the heart of the political debate, where all sides are fair game. herman cain has denied claims he sexually harassed two women while she was head of the national restaurant association. he also said he knew nothing about settlements to the women of the maybe he did, not long after denying it he said he remembered more than he was saying. joining me now is cnn creditor maria cardona and public perception is the key here. has this made people think? >> it continues to underscore two things, first that this is not somebody who is ready for prime time, not somebody who is
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ever prepared to go the full way and secondly it brings up doubts if this is somebody that is looking to actually be president, huge doubts about his credibility, about whether he's able to handle a crisis communication situation and i think ultimately will make voters think that this is something somebody they can see as their commander in chief. >> we have a new interview with herman cain, he spoke with robin meade this morning over at hln. let me play a little bit of that. >> i just started to remember more, remember -- in 12 years a lot of stuff can go through your head. this wasn't exactly something that i had top of mind where i was trying to recall every little detail that went on 12 years ago. after 12 hours during the day, many events, many interviews i was able to gradually recall more and more details about what happened 12 years ago. that's what i would do
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differently. but you know, i wasn't given the pportunity to think about it answering questions. >> now, ron, if you look at what politico is reporting, they are the ones who broke the story. they said they gave him ten days to respond before posting the story but he's saying he only had 24 hours to remember the details. does that hold? >> well, it's a great question. i mean, it's hard to say because i don't work for politico or the herman cain campaign, if it's true he had ten days, they should have put together a polished answer and vetted it and made sure there were no holes in it because clearly this has not been something that the cain campaign wants. republican primary voters like him because he talked directly to them. he has a great business background, doesn't sound like a politician. we're seeing some products of that, some biproducts of that and downsides of not being a
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politician. he's not used to the situation that he has to try to get out of like this. you know, if i were him at this point, i would stop all media interviews and stop talking about this completely and try to let this move on because the more he talks about it, the more he's getting himself in trouble. i would take the shovel abay and stop all of the interviews. >> maria, one thing he is talking about is this fundraising effort, they raised about $300,000. what does this say about what this has done for him? >> that's a very interesting point, randi, because i do think it underscores what ron was saying about how a lot of conservative republicans do like him and do support him. frankly the line he used at the very beginning when this first started about how this is all the fault of the liberal media, that works with the base. that's what i think is working for him in terms of fundraising.
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the problem is that's not sustainable. and the problem with what ron just said, which i agree, i completely would take him off the air. what he needs to do is answer the questions and frankly, he did not do that in the interview with robin meade. there were other questions raised and it goes directly to his credibility. it is baffling for somebody who is really supposedly prepared to run for president that he and his advisers did not gather and say, what is out there about herman cain that can be brought up, whether it's the opposition, media, whoever, what is it in his background that can come back to haunt us? if you put a plan together, that plan is not to then ignore the media and then recall things after you have denied them. it is to put everything out there yourself so you can define the message. that is something that he has not done. >> well, we'll see if he continues to try to define the message or stops talking. thanks you both very much. that is fair game.
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madness cutting off his own ear and van gogh's suicide. but that, his suicide is being called into question by two authors. in this new biography, both authors join me now from new york. ste steven, you say you have evidence in the book that van gogh may have been been murdered. this is a pretty radical theory. what kind of evidence do you have? >> the problem with the myth that that's out there is that the information doesn't really make sense. the medical evidence was that the gunshot came from an oblique angle and too far for him to pull the trigger. also it -- my ear is not
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working. >> what he is trying to say, even though we raised the evidence and we don't say that murder was involved, there was not intentionality to commit murder, the scenario we think happened based on the evidence we reexamined is that he was in a situation where two teenage boys in town who were -- all three of them were drunk and one of them had a pistol that was known to malfunction. and that it was as a consequence of that sort of that the three of them getting together and the boys were known for teasing vincent and vincent was known for getting drunk and exploding. you had in that kind of situation, anything could happen. but there was no -- in our opinion there was no intentionality to kill vincent, nor and this is what's different from the myth, nor did vincent have an intentionality to kill himself. so it was really the result of an accidental shooting.
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and that's the -- where we've rewritten the myth of vincent van gogh. >> because the myth didn't make sense. if he shot himself, why in the abdomen, less than 2% of people shoot themselves there, it's a painful, long death. >> and he missed. >> why did he not pick up the gun and finish himself off? how did he get from the wheat fields down to the very long he is cartment in that terrible condition? where did he get the gun? who would have given vincent van gogh who was known to come out of an insane asylum. the whereabouts did not come become until one of the two boys gave this interview. >> what about the majority of the art historians who have said and continue to say that van gogh was suicidal for some time. as you know he hacked off part of an ear. even his last words were
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reportedly do not accuse anyone, it is i who wanted to kill myself. this is how i wanted to go. why cover it up? >> his words to the police were, they said, did you try to commit suicide? and he said, i don't believe so. and then he said, don't accuse anyone else. now if you think about that for a minute. how many suicides would the police likely have thought somebody else was involved? so suicide is typically a solitary event. that was one of the accounts we found just odd. >> also, he was not -- >> let me just and the other odd fact, the gun was never found nor was any of the painting equipment that he took out with him that day, ever found. >> also he wasn't really suicidal. he talked about suicide in his letters repeatedly and he always said it was an act of cowardess and he would never do it. when he cut off his ear, he was
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in the middle of a psychotic episode and that accounted for the terrible ear incident. but he was not in one of those psychotic episodes when he died because his brother came from paris to be with him as he died and they had a long conversation. it is very hard to believe he would have done something like this when he was coherent. >> right. >> it's very interesting. it really is a really interesting book. van gogh the life is the book. thank you both very much for your time. >> thank you so much. every day on this show we call out someone who just makes us scratch our heads. to rome, georgia we go where the administration is making its employees pledge to reject homosexuality. they have to sign a pledge saying they are not gay in order to work at the christian baptist university. they call it a personal lifestyle pledge. it has a lovely ring to it, don't you think? the university told us any faculty who chose not to sign
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will be choosing to end they are employment at the university. i think that's a fancy way of saying they'll be fired. the 200 employees being asked to sign the pledge promised to reject homosexuality as well as premarital sex and adultery and other behavior violates the bible's teaching. the president told us, through our policies we tells us through our policy we seek to honor jesus christ. we are not trying to undermine their right to those beliefs but want to be transparent about our own. not trying to undermine their right, sure? you can work here as long as you are not gay or support gay friends. come on, for your petty pledge, it is time for to you face the music ♪ what's the time ♪ so what's the time ♪ what's the time but did you know they're good for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry
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daughter melissa was born, i missed my daughter for two days. >> and what was it like without your family all of these years? >> lonely? >> and so you've obviously reunited with them. what was it like? what was your reaction when they found you? did they give you a call and say, hi, this is your sister and brother? >> yeah, my brother was the first one to call. >> first of all, what was your reaction? >> well, my sister alice, unfortunately, she's not here with us right now. >> and could you believe it when you got the call? how did you manage to get together and have a reunion? >> i was in alabama on the bus at 5:00 and arrived at 2:30 in
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the morning. >> did you ever actually meet john wayne gacy? explain what you mean by you might have been one of his victims? >> yeah, a couple days i worked with him. i raked leaves, pulled some leaves and things like that. >> how would you describe him? >> sickening. >> why is that? >> very disturbed. >> what is your plan now that you've had a reunion with your family? where do you go from here? will you all stay together now? >> i'm going to stay in alabama. i'm not going know where i love you, alice. >> well, listen, i think it's great that your family did try to hunt you down, even though they were expecting the worst, haired lovell, great news.
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wish you all very well. thanks for coming on the show. and from that we will turn to washington and check in with our friend paul steinhauser who is watching all things politics. paul, what do you have for us today? >> let's talk about the first lady michelle obama. weapon don't talk about her that often but her husband is up for re-election one year from today. she's in florida speaking at a national democratic committee event and we're seeing michelle do more of those events and maybe start to slowly, slowly turn her attention, to a degree, to her husband's re-election. check out these brand-new numbers. this is poll and the americans have a very good opinion of her. last month a poll had similar numbers in. her numbers better than her husband's. but this is the dell bait part here, randi, as first lady, you don't want to appear too political. yes, she wants to help her
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husband out but she doesn't want to appear too political and keep her first lady status. that's the trick here. we'll see how much more next year she's part of the re-election campaign. let's talk about somebody definitely running for the white house. that's texas governor rick perry. he's put in a paid ad. in this chergcommercial, rick p created jobs there and says he can do the same thing for the country and a super pact. we talk about these super pacts. it's dedicated to helping rick perry with brand new ads. we're about two months away from the first votes in iowa and rick perry is spending some of that campaign cash that he has on brand-new ads to get out the message and boost those poll
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numbers. >> he's spending those money and i guess herman cain is bringing them in, huh? >> yes. we just found out that herman cain was on hln with robin meade and said that yesterday they raised almost $300,000. incredible, randi will dooe. >> all right. paul steinhauser, deputy political director, thank you. i would love to hear what think of the show. follow me on facebook or twit r twitter. i'll hand it over to brooke baldwin. >> i'm brooke baldwin. let's get you caught up with everything happening at this hour. beginning with rapid fire. a look at the big board, triple dig digit tanking. 232, the dow is down. of course, all of this, a lot of this because of the bombshell in greece. their prime minister called for a public vote and investors are worried that the referendum that
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was brokered last week will be in jeopardy. we'll keep our eye on this during the last two hours there. also, the super committee meeting happening in washington, they are 22 days away from their deadline and they are still at odds overtax says. they are seeking guidance. also, the big bank today bowing to the little guy. bank of america. now calling off plans to charge you, their customers, that $5 monthly fee for using their debit cards. most peoplely obviously are thrilled over this but occupy wall street protesters we talked to, not so impressed. >> that's great. that's wonderful. that's a move in the right direction but it's not -- it's not earth shattering. it's really not. >> well, in the past couple of days, other big banks have also candelaria selled plans.
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a commercial airliner in full of passengers lands on it is belly today. watch this with me as it starts to skid on the tarmac, no landing gear. not working. imagine that. take a listen. this is poland. the landing gear failed on approach. this is warsaw. 230 people on board. amazingly, zero people hurt. gold star for the pilot. that was pretty smooth. and the mother of secretary of state hillary clinton passed away at the age of 92. dorothy rodham died this morning. she was quoted as a warm, strong, generous woman, intellectual, told a great joke and always got the joke. an extraordinary friend and most of all, a loving wife, mother, and grandmother.
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an oregon couple who choice their faith or medical aid will be spending their next six years in prison. in 2009 they were accused of secondary manslaughter. they did not seek medical treatment for their baby who died within hours of his birth in his home. several animals were left dead in a new jersey zoo. this happened on sunday night in burlington county. a giraffe, several puppies, and birds died in this fire. this is the second fire at this zoo this year. and take a look at this. conjoined twins, here they are, attached at both the chest and the abdomen. so right now, doctors in california are working to separate these 2-year-old girls. >> i hope and pray that everything will be okay and they will recover successfully. >> that procedure, as we
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mentioned, under way right now, expected to take more than eight hours, possibly more. with that, we have a lot more to cover with you in the next two hours, including this -- >> a surprise move strikes fear in the markets. we're watching wall street. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. herman cain monday. >> i am unaware of any sort of settlement. >> herman cain today. >> i remember an agreement. >> 24 hours of questions. the republican reveals different answers. >> it is a scare campaign. >> cnn goes inside occupy wall street. >> why are we here? >> maybe it's to help people out. >> find out what happens during 24 hours behind the scenes. >> we know we let some of you down. >> jetblue apoll apologizes for making passengers sick on the plane, no working toilets or food for eight hours. but will it happen again? the feds call them ghosts.
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russian spies undercover right here in the u.s. no, never before seen footage of their tricks. >> the classic spy technique, a brush pass. >> and how close they got to infiltrating the circles of american power players. from anarchy alternative, a fascinating look at punk rock dads. >> i've worked on myself with anger management. >> one down, how many to go? >> 20 more to go. >> and after 72 days, kim kardashian decides she no longer wants to be a newlywed. but her husband isn't backing down. ] you think that is some information i would have liked to know? i like tacos. you invited eric? i thought eric gave you the creeps. [ phone buzzes ] oh.
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herman cain has been fighting back hard against allegations that he sexually harassed two women more than a decade ago. but by last night he said he did recall one allegation and that there had been a payout, albeit a small one. robin meade asked him to explain. >> now that we're 24, 48 hours into this, are you remembering what happened? >> that is it. the best account that i gave was on another station and the only thing that i added -- remember, this was 12 years ago. and i was trying to recollect this in the middle of an already busy planned day. a major speech in the morning, a major luncheon speech at the club and then the only thing that i can remember when i was asked about any specific things that were in the allegation, i
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came up with the fact that i made a gesture by putting my hand under my chin, standing near this lady, saying, oh, you're the same height as my wife. my wife is 5 feet tall, she comes up to my chin, i was simply making that comparison. we were in my office and my door was wide opened and my assistant was sitting right outside. >> if either of these two women, one of them whom you remember and one of them you don't remember the case, you're saying, if they were watching right now, what would you say to them regarding their complaints? because you say that they were false and found to be false? >> i would simply say, why are you bringing it up now? obviously someone is encouraging them to bring it up now because i'm doing so well in this republican nomination. that's all i would say. secondly, are you being used to try and paint a cloud and help sabotage by candidacy? i would just ask why they would do that now. you and i both know why they are
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doing it. because someone does not like the fact that we are doing so well in this campaign and then i'm at or near the top of the polls consistently. >> so you feel like this is a smear campaign? from whom, do you think? >> i absolutely believe that this is an intended smear campaign using these two cases, like i said, i'm not even aware of the second one. it is a smear campaign. when they cannot -- >> by whom? do you know by whom? >> we don't know. we have no idea. i was falsely accused. i have never committed sexual harassment in my entire career. period. and it was found that nothing took place in sexual harassment case. >> what does your wife, if we may ask, have to say about this, and was she told all of these years ago about it? >> yes, she was. when this happened years ago, i
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told my wife about it because it was found to be baseless and the hardest part on my wife, quite frankly, is all of the innuendoes from all of the news reports that haven't been presenting the facts. you know, the fact that, yes, the word settlement i said i don't recall a settlement earlier in the day because i considered what happened an agreement. but because of, like i said, the detail of which every word is scrutinized, it was an agreement. so it looked like i changed my story. i didn't change my story. i just simply got the wording right and then the difference between settlement and agreement, there's a difference to me. >> now, a lot of campaign watchers are saying that this is a misstep by his campaign. do you have any fears about how this is going to play into your poll numbers? >> first of all, it may affect my poll numbers. but most of our supporters have not been shaken by this whatsoever. in fact, many of the people that have been in organizations that i have run, i've been president, ceo, have called and asked,
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would they like -- would we like for them to do a testimonial that this is ridiculous because they are testing to my character and my integrity. the other thing that shows that a lot of things find this, you know, an attempt to cloud, robin, yesterday online we had one of our highest fundraising days in the campaign. one of the highest ever. >> wow. >> so what i believe it has done is backfired on those trying to put a clout over my campaign, because they can't shoot down the ideas. >> is there anything that you want to get off your chest about this topic? >> no. >> herman cain with robin meade, by the way. we'll talk to wolf blitzer. we'll get his thoughts. in the meantime, conrad murray will not testify in the michael
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jackson death trial. we're live from outside of the courtroom. that is straight ahead. plus, the united states pulling $60 million worth of funding to the united states education and science agency. you probably know it as usesco. and 24 hours with the folks with the occupy wall street movement in new york. >> good morning. it's about 8:30. we're in lower manhattan and i just woke out of my bed roll, had my breakfast, i'm ready to occupy. i habe a cohd. yeah, i toog nyguil bud i'm stild stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't un-stuff your nose. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ] thank you!
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michael jackson's doctor, dr. conrad murray. we learned that he will not be testifying in his own manslaughter trial. ted, if you can, describe the scene inside the courtroom when murray told the judge he won't testify, doesn't want to. >> reporter: well, it was kind of dramatic. to take you back to yesterday when murray blurted out that he hadn't made up his mind on whether he would take the stand. that set up the, will he or won't he? the judge sat him down and said, what's the deal? are you going to do it? and he took his time responding and like a reality show, kicking somebody off, everybody is waiting and then he said, i will not be taking the stand in my own defense. although we didn't think that he would, now we know for sure. >> so would you say not a huge surprise that he's not testifying? >> reporter: no, because of his statements made to police. he really boxed himself into a
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story that now during testimony we know is not completely accurate. i think he would have been beaten up pretty badly on cross-examination because of the inconsistencies that he told police. >> what can we expect next here, ted, in terms of the trial and when will we expect closing arguments? >> reporter: well, it's wrapping up very quickly. right now on the stand is dr. steven schafer. this is pashafer. we're going to have the final witness and then the judge is going to give the attorneys at least a day, day and a half to prepare for closing arguments. so i suspect we'll have the close on thursday and jury should get the case by friday. >> what a couple of weeks there for you. ted, thank you very much. coming up, the united states pulling $60 million worth of funding for the united nations, all of this having to do with possible statehood granted to palestine. so why is the u.s. so opposed to this? we're going to breakdown the details for you with jim clancy.
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right over the phone. or visit us on the web. don't wait. call now. globe trekking now. back in september, the palestinian authority required membership at the united nations. president ahmadinejad knew full well that the united states would block that. that hasn't been voted on yet. probably in a couple of weeks. in the meantime, the palestinians applied for and it looks like successfully for membership in the u.n. membership, unesco. jim is here to walk us through the story. when i think of unesco, i think of world heritage, pyramids. >> think science. science. >> helping kids learn, read, promoting that sort of thing.
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so help me connect the dots between -- we're talking about the israeli palestinian conflicts and we're talking unesco. >> this all goes back 20 years when the idea was, put measures in place that will prevent the palestinians from getting a state unless they go through israel. >> uh-huh. >> israel has to give it its stamp of approval before they can get it. now, this was a threat to unesco and all of its members. it was a threat to the palestinians. and the problem with a threat is it only works as long as the other guys are intimidated. clearly they are not. they approved this by a pretty wide margin. >> right. >> and they are palestine, the state of palestine is now a full member of unesco. but that's not the big problem in the israeli newspaper today. >> what is? >> the headline is that the palestinians are already actively lobbying to join.
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organizations like the intellectual property rights organization. will they pull out their funding there and what are the movie companies -- who do they go to to negotiate when somebody infringes on their property? >> let's back up because part of the conversation is that the u.s. is saying, we're pulling out our funding from unesco, somewhere between -- >> but it applies to other organizations as well like the iaea. we're going to pull out funding from the iaea so north korea and iran have an easier time with their nuclear problems? >> this is a huge victory for palestine and as far as the u.s. goes, what does avos think of that? >> he's been told that this is going to weaken you and your prospects. but the reality being faced in
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washington and tel aviv, these are huge issues. ever time an international organization recognizes palestine as a member, it's a step forward without going through washington or israel. they are gaining international, legitimacy. huge. >> jim clancy, thank you very much. >> thank you. good to be with you, brooke. >> good to be with you here in the cnn "newsroom." tens and thousands of people have protested in the occupy wall street movement. but morning, noon, and night, what are they doing? >> why are we here? what are we going to do? >> why are we here? >> i don't know, maybe it's to help somebody out. >> we sent a producer to spend
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we are 90 minutes away from the "closing bell." the dow is down 176 points and a lot of this is related to what is happening in greece with the prime minister calling for a vote with regard to the eurozone deal cut last week. we'll talk to alison kosik about how this can affect us and let's continue talking in new york. the occupy wall street demonstrators are getting more attention with confrontation with their corporate greed.
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this is from occupied denver. a hundred occupiers have been cuffed here and in portland and austin and elsewhere. check out this twitter page. this keep as tally. close to 3,000 occupiers have been taken in. but when all is quiet, what is occupy life really life? cnn's dot-com went to where it all started some 45 days ago in new york's zuccotti park. >> see the apple floating over there? >> do you guys need towels?
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>> we're taking the deep cycle marine batteries all around the park, wherever we need power. >> i hate capitalism. >> they criticize cuban revolution, said the revolution needs its own children. the revolution can eat its own children. i can eat burger king. >> why are we here? what are we going to do? i don't know. maybe it's to help people out. >> it's all volunteer here. see a need to fill it. >> we're going to eat right now. it's dinnertime. >> i would like everything.
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>> hi jack. >> hi, everybody. >> hi, everybody. >> welcome to general assembly. >> we are the general assembly. it's been going on since 7:00 and it's currently 10:40 now. it will probably continue until midnight. as usual. >> good morning. it's about 8:30. zuccotti park, lower hand hmanh. i just woke up out of my bed roll, had my breakfast, and i'm ready to occupy. >> what would i do? i would pack up my stuff and both go to my girl's parents house for a while and then go to work and live life all over again, you know. it's going to be a good day today. it's always a good day.
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got to make the best out of it. >> let's go to the man behind that video. there he is. jared, you've been in the thick of the movement, the heart of the movement for 24 hours. tell me, what is one thing you learned about this movement that most of us don't know when it comes to occupy wall street? >> reporter: well, despite the fact that it looks like a chaotic mess of tents, there's a bit of structure and organization there. but with that being said, there's really no unified message. and what we have is a fringe majority. which is an oxymoron. there is a culture here and i think if they were not here, they would be somewhere else. this is just the place to be right now. >> so, then, if you talk about the fringe message or the messengers, are some of the people who really are at the heart of this movement, are they
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frustrated that perhaps some of the fringe members are really overtaking, overshadowing their message? >> you know, it's interesting. i had conversations with some of the people that are more at the forefront of the culture here and when i would say, this is what one person would say to me, he's entitled to their opinion. they are kind of forced to defend them because that's everything that they stand for, is defending other people's right to speech and their ideas. >> jarrett, you woke up with them, i imagine ate lunch with them for 24 hours. what are they doing morning, noon, and night out there? >> reporter: well, during the daytime there are chores to be done, they have to clean, cook, sit around, or bang on a trash can with a stick and then there are rallies and protests to go to. they find ways to keep them occupied, pardon the punt. >> as they continue to do this, some of them feel very strongly, very passionately about their messages, or messages, which
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are, again, what? >> reporter: that's a great question because there is no message. i met one guy who says, yes, i am a socialist and i want socialism and then you talk to somebody else and their message s. is i don't want to see tracking happening. so what they see happen is a feel like their message or messages are being received by the nation? >> it's hard to say. i mean, when you go in there and talk to them, they will say, especially as a journalist, why aren't you covering this message and covering that message and i don't have a good answer for them. i try not to answer it. but they don't think so. they are so passionate about this particular message and there is nothing that is going to satisfactory them at least until something gets done, whatever that something happens to be. >> final question, it's cold. you guys saw some snow.
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how long do they plan on protesting? occupying zuccatti park? >> some people said that they are here forever. in fact, the snowstorm, it's sort of empowered them. they say, we've made it through this, we can make it through the winter. i don't know. that is one storm. we will see. all i can say is spending 24 hours there is tough. >> jarrett, we appreciate it. thanks so much. jetblue is slammed for a plane. sitting on a tarmac for hours and hour. now they are apologizing. >> we know we let some of you down over the course of this weekend and for that we are truly sorry. >> here's the question we have. what do they plan to do to keep this from ever happening again? also, a bizarre initiative by starbucks to create small business jobs.
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almost eight hours. no food, no water, no working restrooms. did you hear me? no working restrooms. and a crying baby on board. the pilot was so desperate to get to the gate, he was willing to take matters into his own hands. >> my priority right now is a tug and a towbar. if you can give me a welding shop, i'll be willing to make one myself. >> jetblue is apologizing this video posted online. >> let's face it, at jetblue you count on us for a lot more and we promise a lot more. we know we let you down and for that we are truly sorry. >> jetblue blames the weather, size of the airport, and other operational but passenger safety was never compromised and plans to cooperate with the transportation department in its investigation. starting today, you can pay a little extra when you're getting your morning latte and
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feel good about it. it's aimed at creating lattes. poppy, i feel good because i might have contributed to that. >> good job. this is interesting, any starbucks you go into, you're going to see these wrist bands up by the counter. what these are, a new program launched by starbucks. you donate $5 or more if you want and they say that that entire amount goes to funding small business loans. now, i think what's really interesting about this is the back story. this is driven purely by the ceo of starbucks. howard schultz came out with a pledge, stop donating to washington and political campaigns until washington gets its fiscal situation in order. this is him taking it one step
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further and starbucks is raising what they hope to be a lot of money to go to a nonprofit organization that funds small business loans. he's saying, look, if washington is not going to get it together, we as business leaders need to do what we can to create jobs in this country. i had a chance to talk to him earlier today about why he's doing this, why would starbucks go out on a limb to do this and i thought his answer was pretty interesting. take a listen. >> the old school of looking at profit as a singular goal for a reason a company exists i think is a shallow, wrong approach. i also believe that those companies that are willing to embrace the balance between profitability and social confidence will make more money and be able to attract greater people because they will believe in the reservoir trust of the company. i also feel that the consumer today has many choices and the company that they are going to chose is a company whose values are like their own. >> so what he is saying here,
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brooke, is that it is in the hands of american business to do what they can to create jobs and he's also saying that the soul goal for business leaders right now should no longer be just to make money, brooke. that's interesting at a time when we have occupy wall street spreading across the country. a lot of talk about the growing wealth gap in this country. >> so we can give and buy the bracelets and help but is starbucks walking the walk? are they contributing money to this program as well? >> they are. so what starbucks did, the foundation, they gave $5 million as seed funding. they are also going to cover the complete costs of the marketing and the the wrist bands as much as it takes. i asked him, is that a smart move that is publicly traded and has to respond to its shareholders. said, this is going to cost us millions but in the end we think it's the right thing to do and he believes people will come into starbucks because of this program and that will boost their business. we'll see if shareholders push
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back. but it's an interesting move and it's something we haven't seen from starbucks before and from a lot of businesses. sort of the ceo stepping out on a ledge here and doing something that he is personally motivated for and he thinks will ultimately benefit the company and a greater society. i want to add one thing, brooke, because a lot of the things that people have been posing, is howard schultz interested in going to washington? he said, absolutely not. he can do more as the executive as one of the biggest companies in the country than he can do in washington. you don't need congress to pass something like this. >> glad you asked you question because it does sort of beg it, doesn't it, all that he has been doing. >> right. >> poppy harlow, thank you for sharing your interview. go to cnn.com/money. thank you, poppy harlow. we have now learned that the defense has rested in the conrad murray trial. the judge says the jury will get
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the case on thursday or friday. we're told no court tomorrow. just today. conrad murray decided not to testify. we're going to catch you up in the trial developments when sunny hostin joins me today on the case. punk. let's talk punk. anti-anarchy, breaking the rules, and then you grow up. >> you have a kid, realize they need to have their diapers changed and health insurance and a house for them and then you need clouds and you have a mortgage and then all of a sudden the system that you are fighting against for trying to change, you become part of that system. >> this documentary, i watched over the weekend. we're going to talk to this guy who built a bridge from front man to family man. even if you don't like punk, stick around for this. it's a story about wanting to do right by your kids. we're going to talk next. st col, plus it relieves your runny nose.
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punk rock, it isn't dead but it's definitely different. just ask the guys who front the biggest punk bands in the business. their lives are not glamorous like other famous musicians. they live in buses, stay in dirty hotel rooms and have to eat some pretty bad road food. and they also come home to their wives and kids and bills and it's not at all what you would expect as the anti-establishment kings of punk. it's a new documentary. it's called "the other f word" and the other word is fatherhood. >> yea.
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yea. >> it's tough to be a punk rock hero and still be a good authority figure for your kids. it's almost impossible. when my wife and i decided to have a kid, we made a pact, we're not going to change our life. we'll bring this kid into our life. but we're not going to be -- we're not changing. it's pretty much everything. i get up a lot earlier now. ♪ i never thought about the universe ♪ ♪ it mate me feel small >> emma, i'm not going to warn you again, honey, okay? and you're going to stay home from allison's. >> it's like you're supposed to be a model citizen for your little kid, show them the right way to do things whereas i'm the
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exact opposite of that. >> joining me now, jim lindberg. it's a pleasure to have you on. i know you have three daughters. we were just talking during the commercial break and one of them now in high school. so good luck to the boys knocking on your door. how -- first question, how have you balanced being a punk rock hero with having to be, as you mentioned in the clip, a model citizen, an authority figure at home? is it even possible? >> i haven't balanced it that well. that was part of the problem and why i wrote a book and then dea documentary about it. because it does become very difficult after a while of being the wild man on stage and fitting into the stereotype. but then coming home and being
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an authority figure for kids. that was challenging and that was the problem for me. i felt like for a while i was doing a poor job at both. so it was tough but i think i've gotten better at it over the years and i think i've become a better father and a better punk singer as well. >> we see you on tour through the film. day 219, day 220 and you're skyping with your kids and getting birth dee cards on the road. one thing that is consistent among all of you guys is that your life on the road as this punk rock hero, it's not as glamorous as many of us would think, which could defy the definition of punk any way. >> when you have a kid, you realize that they need to have their diapers changed, health insurance, a house for them, a mortgage, clothes, and then all of a sudden the system that you were fighting against or trying to change, you become part of
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that system:. ♪ ♪ >> everybody who has high ideals at some point has a crisis. you know, when they have to actually get food on the table and take care of other people. >> no one joined to make money or ransom to make money. we didn't start the vandals to make money. >> it sort of slowly became a job and what we did for a living. we're a working class band. it's not like we have leer jets picking us up or man servants doing stuff for us. >> if only you had man servants, i guess, jim. so when you're talking about having to put food on the table for your family, at what point did music, which i imagine was your first passion, did it
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become more of a job, something to have to -- that you had to do to put the food on the table? >> well, that was a difficult part for me because i grew up in the era when music was everything and the whole punk rock idea of doing it just for yourself and for the fun of it real estate then in the '90s it did become a business but i was always keeping the two separate. i played music because i loved it. i loved the songs that we wrote and the response from our fans and putting our music out there. but after a while you do have to start worrying about putting food on the table and how the bills get paid and that was a very hard disconnect for me to deal with over the years. but, you know, if you're in a band, you have to deal with your agents and record labels and booking shows and stuff like that. if you want to control how your band is perceived, you have to do that. and it teaches you some organization skills and i have to use those at home as well.
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>> also, it seems like in the film you have to tell your other band members, look, i have to go home and take my daughter to the school dance. my final question is, it seems like a lot of the musicians featured in the film came from broken homes. how did your parents, your father impact the father that you are today? >> well, that was kind of the difference for me in the documentary. i'm kind of like the middle man. i came from a very supportive family. in fact, my dad really imported on me the importance of graduating from college and i graduated from ucla and he was concerned when i quit my day job to go on tour with my punk band. but it does a great job of showing all of the situations. you have some dads coming from broken homes, very does functional families, very heart wrenching scenes are shown. but i was lucky. i had a great family and great
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support system there and i think it's helped me become a better father today. at least i hope so. >> thank you, jim lindberg. i'm glad you didn't give away the twist at the end of the documentary. the movie is called "the other f word." jim, thank you so much. nice to meet you. >> all right. thank you. coming up, brand-new report out on painkiller deaths. we have now learned that more people die in connection with prescription painkillers than cocaine combined. that story is moments away. we're america's natural gas
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wolf blitzer is standing by with our politics update. wolf, i know you know this story. herman cain dominated discussion in the race for the republican nomination but not for the reasons he would prefer. cain is strongly denying public claims that he sexually harassed not just one woman but two women that worked for him about ten years ago. he spoke with my colleague, and yours, robin meade. take a listen. >> i was falsely accused and it was demonstrated to be false. i wasn't aware of the second accusation. i have never committed sexual harassment towards anybody in my over 40 years. this was the only case that i
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know about. if there are any others out there, they will probably have to make it up because i am totally not aware and i'm not trying to hide anything. i'm trying to put it all out there for people to see. >> so, wolf, prior to this he was doing excellently in the polls. i know you look at those numbers so closely. how, if at all, are those stories affecting him? >> he said to robin that he raised a ton of money online. supporters are with him, they are not moving away. he thinks he has political adversaries out there to hurt him for whatever reason. when she pressed and said, who are they? he wouldn't say. he said, i have no idea who is behind these allegations, behind reviving the story right now. but he seemed to be, when i walked him out -- i was here in the washington, d.c. bureau as he left the studio and escorted him to the elevators, he seemed to be in a good mood. he was happy about the
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interview. he was smiling, upbeat, very friendly as he always is. i don't know if you ever met him but he has a happy, engaging personality, a good sense of humor and seemed to be happy that things -- and he didn't seem to be overly concerned that this was going to undermine the support of the conservative base that he has. he's doing remarkably well, not only in the state polls, as you know, but in the national polls as well. whether or not this hurts him, i think it will depend in the coming days if he gets all of the information out, if he comes up with a consistent story without any evolving changes or whatever, contradictory statements that have emerged over the past 24, 48 hours. but if you can get it all out kwingly, i've covered a lot of the stories over the years. he can recover but it's going to require diligence and consistent line of work and we've got to let it get out there and then he can can move on. let's see if he can do that. >> okay. if, as he says, this whole thing is a smear campaign and somebody comes rw
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