the deal is, could you ever do that on a global basis? that's the question, isn't it? erin? >> thanks so much to becky reporting where bill gates was. tomorrow we're excited. kathy lynn austin will be our guest. angelina jolie will play her in a movie. why? she spent 20 years catching the arms dealer. come back. see you then. anderson cooper starts now. erin, thanks. >> thanks, anderson. much more tonight on herman cain. the accusations keep coming and so do the denials and see what it says about the race for the white house and indeed race in america. plus the trial of michael jackson's doctor conrad murray. the jury begins deliberating tomorrow and what they may be

>> "meet the fockers." he plays a modern-day robin hood. >> let's storm the castle together. >> like when they went after frankenstein. >> no. the peasants take everything back from the lords. >> i'm in. >> matthew broderick and two of the most powerful men in hollywood. this is "piers morgan tonight." we begin with breaking news a. jury in the manslaughter trial of michael jackson's doctor will get the case. ted rowlands joins me now. ted, another dramatic day and now we will get to i guess the final answer. describe what happened today. >> well, piers, two very passionate arguments by both sides. david walgren started off telling the your this wasn't a case about a doctor/patient relationship.

this is a case about a guy willing to do something very dangerous for $150,000 a month. he also reminded the jury about michael jackson's three children that will be growing up fatherless. the jackson family was in the courtroom as they usually are and there were a few moments where it was very emotional. one of them and we'll take a listen in just a second here was when david walgren was talking about that minute where michael jackson likely died. >> this is when conrad murray gave just an ounce of attention to michael jackson to see what his condition was. but again, how long he had again in that condition, we'll never know. was conrad murray in another room? did michael jackson yell out for help? did he gasp? did he choke?

were there sounds? we don't know. and we'll never know. because of the neglect and negligence of conrad murray. >> now ed chernoff was equally passionate during his close. he said that dr. murray was a little fish in a big, dirty pond and he told jurors, hey, this is reality. it's not a reality show. and he again -- and this was a theme throughout this. said that michael jackson accidentally killed himself. >> what they're really asking you to do, just say it. what they're really asking you to do is to convict dr. murray for the actions of michael jackson. and i'm going to -- you know, we've been dancing around this for six weeks. maybe two years. somebody's got to say it.

somebody's got to tell the truth. somebody's got to just say it. if it were anybody else but michael jackson, anybody else would this doctor be here today? >> obviously, piers, a lot of emotion today in the courtroom and a lot for this jury to digest. >> ted, i mean, where would your money going now? guilty or not guilty? >> well, you know what? there's a lot of evidence that this jury's going to overlook and to be honest with you i wouldn't want to be a juror on this case because it is so difficult. clearly, the cause of death isn't established and walgren acknowledged that. they have to go through this and then search their souls. i think there's a chance that there's a hung jury in this case. >> thanks very much, indeed. we may hear a verdict tomorrow on that absorbing trial. but now, herman cain, he says the american people are sick of the accusations against

him which he called gutter politics. if a fund raising is any indication, he might be wrong. he raised an impressive $1.2 million since sunday when the sexual harassment allegations against him first broke and in the face of new details today a defiant cain is not backing down. listen to what he said on sean hannity's radio show earlier today. >> this will not deter me. this businessman is not going to be deterred in his drive to basically do what i feel like i'm supposed to be doing which is to win this nomination and win the presidency. >> herman cain today. joining me now is jonathan martin, he broke the story about a $45,000 payment to one of herman cain's accusers. welcome, jonathan. another story broken by politico. you've led the way on this scandal so far. tell me about the latest development and why it's significant. >> well, there were two

developments today. first, one of the women who first reported about on sunday, we had five figures on sunday as to the payouts for the two women. "the new york times" put one to the 35. we today reported, piers, the other one got about $45,000 when she left the organization, signing that nondisclosure agreement to not talk about what happened with mr. cain. the other news tonight from my colleagues ken vogel, alex burns, described more in depth what happened with mr. cain and one of these women at a hotel room at a convention put on my by the organization in the late '90s where mr. cain made a sexual overwhich you are to the woman and the woman sought out a board member of the organization just hours after the encounter. >> i mean, herman cain repeatedly changed his story over this and doesn't help him. having said that, the argument it happened a long time does

hold some water. where do you think the depth charge will come in the scandal if at all? >> well, that's the big question that we're all waiting for. you know, the ap yesterday reported that there was a third woman involved, piers. so we are obviously still reporting, talking to sources. you know, mr. cain has been defiant ever since we broke the story on sunday night. and has said that, yes, there was an accusation of one woman and he's not talking about the other one. nor the third one that the ap broke. tomorrow, though, piers, could be interesting. tomorrow friday one of the women who has expressed some interest in if not going public at least putting out a statement for the media. the organization will decide tomorrow if they're going to authorize her lawyer to put out a statement on behalf of the woman. now, keep in mind here, this woman is restricted right now from speaking because in the

leaving the organization she signed a nondisclosure agreement so if the organization decides it's not a breach of statement for her to speak you could hear a statement pushing back on mr. cain tomorrow with this woman's side of the story. >> finally, and briefly if you don't mind, jonathan, lots of rumors this is coming from the rick perry campaign team. he denied that in an interview with john king today. what do you say to that? >> we don't discuss our sources. that's a pretty common practice, piers. as you know for most journalists so i'm not going to get in to that besides to say we reported this story, my colleagues and i, over a three-week period talking to dozens of sources across the country and then ultimately the story about the two women itself, those details were taken from a half a dozen sources who knew various elements of those

two cases. so, you know, current and former staffers of the organization, current and former board members of the organization and sources here in washington who work with the organization, piers. >> okay. jonathan martin, thank you very much. >> thank you. so is herman cain playing the race card or not? joining me is larry elder author of "what's race got to do with it" and ronald kennedy. welcome to both of you. randall kennedy, is herman cain playing the race card or is the race card being played against him here? >> well, to the extent that he has said that one of the reasons that this is coming up is because of race, it seems to me he's using race as a propaganda weapon here. after all, there's no evidence that racism is behind these allegations and typically speaking he seems to be pretty exacting in requiring some evidence before he's willing

usually to say that there's racism. two weeks ago he said that race doesn't have much to do in the lives of black americans yet now without any basis for saying so he seems to be claiming that racism is behind these allegations in an attempt it seems to me to, you know, get the attention off of the allegations and on to something else. >> larry elder, would you agree with that? >> i think that's right. what he should have said and would have been credible in saying there's a double standard. after all, bill clinton was accused of this and much more up to and incluing an accusation of rape and accusations of bill clinton and didn't seem to have the same interest and jesse jackson was the front-runner in the primary in 1988 and rumors of jackson being a serial philanderer. his wife said don't bring these allegations to me and then all of a sudden the media went away.

he should have said there's a double standard. >> what is extraordinary and i'll come back to you, randall kennedy here, he's raising lots of money, a million dollars or more since sunday when the scandal first broke. the popularity in the latest polling is showing signs of increasing, as well. the public or most crucially the people who will be voting for him as a nominee for the republican party don't seem to care very much. what do you make of that? >> the people that like him like him a whole lot and i think they're rallying to their man. i think mr. elder made a very good point a moment ago. it should be noted, though, that when you talk about a double standard it might very well be that the press learned from the past experience. it may very well the press gave passes to people in historically and that they have learned that they ought not do that and that

they ought take more seriously allegations of this sort. >> larry elder, one of the things i like about herman cain and other people clearly do, judging by the fund raising and the polls srks that he's not your average politician. nothing about the way he's behaved in the last few months is the way you would expect a politician to behave even down to the way he handled the scandal. yes, been haphazard and nonpolitical if you like but there's something human about herman cain resonating with people, isn't there? >> absolutely. he's down to earth. his father was a chauffeur. his mother was a domestic. never held elected office. people like that. i want to address what professor kennedy said about the press having learned f. the press learned i would ask him to explain why it is that bill clinton held in such high regard. this is a man against whom a credible allegation of rape was

made. sexual harassment. he settled a lawsuit he said had no merit. he was impeached for lying under oath about what he had done with monica lewinski and yet heralded by the democrat party. if harassment is a serious issue, i wonder why he is heralded that way. >> it's not a completely invalid point. is there one rule for as some believe black conservative politicians and another rule for middle class white politicians? >> no, i think what's shown is people have their bases and people who like politicians are willing to close their eyes to, you know, deficiencies for their man. and in this instance, people who generally talk about, you know, family values are willing it seems to be willing to give a pass to their man in this instance. >> okay. i want to have a quick double answer from both of you. i'll come to you, randall kennedy, first. one word. yes or no to both of these

questions. will herman cain survive the scandal? will he be the gop nominee in january randall, you go first. >> no and no. >> yes and no. >> well, it's certainly fascinating. all we're talking about is herman cain and probably if you're mitt romney that's not such a great thing. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, the only man to take a madoff scandal and play it for a laugh. ben stiller and the cast of "tower heist." [ male announcer ] it's true... consumers er wanchai ferry orange chicken... over p.f. chang's home menu orange chicken women men and uh pandas... elbows mmm [ male announcer ] wanchai ferry, try it yourself.

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>> i like doing that. >> you do? >> and you do, too. i have a theory that everyone who's funny has a massive ego born from chronic insecurity. >> uh-huh. >> here's what you said. i think most actors have big egos and insecure. it's a bad combination. i include myself in this group. whatever reasons we want and need approval from everyone in the universe although we think we're totally unworthy of it. we need to validate ourselves through work. >> wow. >> this is my thesis on comedians. >> i was drunk when i said that. no, i mean, i think there's a certain amount of that that's true. i mean, everybody's different. i think everybody has different motivations for doing what they do and why they do it an sometimes a combination of different things. i don't think you know inside a you will of it necessarily. >> do you like the pressure of having to be funny?

>> no. not at all. >> when you walk down the street -- >> i don't consider myself that funny. you know, you made the joke in the beginning but i'm not really -- like i don't consider myself a funny guy in regular situations. >> do you know which of your 30 movies has grossed the most? >> the biggest? probably -- one of the "night at the museum" maybe. >> "meet the fockers. $280 million. let's have a peek. >> what did you do? >> i think he needs to poop. >> that's the sign for milk. >> what's the sign for sour milk? that tastes a little funky. >> that's from debbie's left breast, greg. >> this's the laugh there. >> spit take. spit take. $50 million. right there. >> i have to say, i mean, there you are. that's your biggest box office movie and milk with robert deniro. >> what does that tell you about your culture? >> what does that tell you about anything? >> i love -- those movies, i had a great experience working with

deniro and always a dream for me but the first one for me is my favorite of those. >> you grew up in a show business family. >> yeah. >> an advantage or disadvantage? >> well, it depends what you're talking about. i mean i think it's an advantage if you go in to show business because you have a sense of what you're going in to and you know the world and around it n. that way, it's an advantage. but then you have to kind of make your own way and, you know? >> yeah. i mean, what i suppose i meant was i can see how having parents in the business can be helpful but it also means there's no escape. you were almost groomed for this role. >> yeah. i mean, you know, as a kid you grow up -- the world you grow up in is the world you grow up. my sister and i enjoyed that. we got to stay up late and my parents played nightclubs and went out to california and they

did tv shows and it was just -- it was fun. we liked that more than going to school. >> married 57 years? >> yeah. >> pretty amazing? >> yeah. >> how do you think they've pulled that off, especially in entertainment. almost unprecedented. >> they -- i think they truly -- i think they just truly love each other. i think that's the key there and they -- i don't know. they're like a -- they're like one organism now. the way they work together now. they play-off each other. they have so much experience together. >> you have been married 11 yores. >> yes. >> you don't let your children watch your movies. >> that's not true. they're not that much interested. i'm not going the try to get them to watch, you know, something about marry or something like that. because they're 9 and 6. >> could be a bit disturbing. >> they watch the "night at the museum" movies and the kids'

movies like "madagascar." they're very theatrical children, yeah. >> do you love being a father? >> i love being a father. yeah. oh my god, yeah. that's -- i think it's like -- i mean, for me it's the best thing. it's challenging. and, you know, as any father will tell you. >> in terms of your filming schedule, how do you juggle that with being a dad? >> you have to figure out how you're going to do it so that you make sure that you have the family time. like right now, i'm working on a film out of town so i'll come back as much as i can on the weekends and then the time off is really important so we always take in the summer we take as much time off as possible and as a family go off together. >> all comedians i meet seem to wrestle with demons. i studied your life fairly carefully and not that -- >> can't find the demons? no. i'm a boring demonless person.

no. i had -- we all have demons. it is i think at the end of the day it's -- you -- you know, it's what you -- what you do with your life, right, how you take what you have and then you're in the moment and all you have is the moment. so, a lot of times in show business, i think you can get wrapped up thinking if that happened or that happened or this movie did well or that or i got that opportunity and ultimately you are in the moment always so i think -- >> there's no evidence of alcoholism. major drug abuse. >> well hidden. >> womanizing. you don't seem to do anything. >> all under the radar. >> a nice, funny guy. >> yeah. nice funny -- sorry. >> anything to get off your chest and confess? anything to chip away at the halo? >> brian grazer and i are having an affair. >> great. he's coming on in a moment. >> i know. and his hair -- i'm in love with his hair. i rub my cheek against his hair every morning. no. things are going good. >> let's take a little break. come back and talk about this new movie of yours which is going to be a kick i think. >> okay. >> got a feeling. >> good. daddy, come in the water!

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>> ben stiller's latest movie "tower heist." >> i was laughing you show the person watching themselves. >> hoping you would be -- >> fascinating. >> hilarious. >> wow. >> just like -- it's a blockbuster movie. you have made so many of them. >> yeah but not really. >> are you excited by this one? >> i'm really excited because it's actually -- it's a genre of movie i've never been in. >> it's a great caper and fantastically well timed. >> why. >> can you imagine this movie coming out with occupy wall street kicking off all over the country? it couldn't be better timed. we are going to find out now if this is a popular movement or not by your ratings. >> i guess so. all right. if you want to, you know, if you want to do it that way. i mean, i feel like the movie is reflective of the situation we're in economically and when we started working on the movie it was like that.

i didn't think we would be in this situation when we were making the film and the film came out. i didn't know. >> it was basically nice guys done in by capitalistic fat cat greed and seek horrific revenge. >> a timeless concept. >> yes! >> yeah. and it does happen to be indicative of where we're at now and also just a good heist movie. just like a fun, fun sort of new york reality-based heist comedy. >> when you say the guys down at wall street protesting, does it resonate with you? you have been pretty political over the years. >> yeah. i mean, the particular thing that's going on there now i'm trying to figure out what it is, what the focus of it is but it's definitely an expression of frustration that's going on that's i think very valid in the country right now. >> what's going on with your country? >> oh wow. >> there's a starting point for you. >> i think we're in a tough place and i think we're -- i

mean, it's a very complicated situation and i as an actor and, you know, just someone who's not an expert don't pretend to know any answers, but i feel like, you know, we have inherited a bad situation over the last eight years and obama's in a very tough position and i think, you know, it's -- in ways it's been frustrating to see that we haven't gotten further. i think we would have hoped. >> he disappointed you, obama? >> i'm disappointed that we haven't seen more bold decisions from him in a willingness i think to maybe stick to more of what he had in his campaign had said in terms of what he was willing to do. >> he's got very lucky -- >> being president is something i would never in a million years want to have to do. >> you wanted to be a come eddic actor and done a great job.

he wanted to be a politician. >> he wanted to be a comedic actor. nobody knows that. yeah, no. i mean, but sure. but, you know, who would have known that he would inherit the situation he inherited? >> he's a very smart guy. he had so much goodwill and just been i think slightly reluctant to beat his chest and do what he probably really wants to do. come on. you're the president. do what you like. >> but it seems like the reality of a deal making that goes on in washington and to get things done is so, so complicated that it's hard the know what the actual reality of it is. >> you have raised a lot of money for haiti and put your money where your mouth is, you've been down there. tell me about haiti now. i mean, why does it still motivate you? >> i went down there for the first time before the earthquake and in such a bad situation that i wanted the try to do something

to help there. and then the earthquake happened and it just, you know, it just -- what they have had to deal with is just -- you know, it's unfair, the natural disasters, the economic situation, the whole history of the country so when you see people like sean and paul farmer, partners in health, the work, i wanted to support that and had this auction to raise money. >> what do you feel about people who criticize celebrities for helping the stuff like that? the criticism being, you're just doing it to promote yourselves. >> well, i think everybody's entitled to their opinion but, you know, if you're not going to use the access you have to people for something you believe in, if you want to say something i think you should be allowed to say it. you know, i think something like haiti where it's a place that this horrible earthquake happens

and six weeks later the attention of the world moves on and if you can talk on a show like this and remind people there's 600,000 people living in tents and 21 months later. >> disparate conditions. that's the thing of haiti. my only beef with some celebrities is they lasso themselves to the causes for a week and move on. they know this situation -- remains desperate. >> that's why sean is so amazing. he was living down there for a better part of a year and putting -- walking the walk and doing the work and -- but i do think it's, you know, if you're not an expert, an actor, you say, hey, remember haiti on a television show it helps. it helps in some way. >> you said it. if it helps. >> thank you. >> let's bring out one of your costarred from the heist caper, matthew broderick. >> all right. >> hello. >> welcome life moves pretty medicare. it doesn't cover everything.

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fast. if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. i do have a test today that wasn't [ bleep ]. it's on european socialism. i mean, really what the point? i'm not european. i don't plan on being social.

so who gives a crap if they're socialist? they can be fascist anarchists. >> i didn't know what i was thinking. >> matthew broderick. 25 years ago you made that movie. >> i know. >> and every interview you have done since you have had to talk about ferris buler's day off. you must be sick of it. >> not at all. >> are you being honest? >> sometimes i'm sick of it but i'm used to it. it's like an old sweater. i -- >> you've grown to be affectionate for it? >> i have great affection -- >> the passage of time. >> wait a minute. i'm affectionate toward the movie or passage of time in general? >> it could be both. >> okay. >> i meant the movie. >> i'm amazed and i'm used to that people still care about it an i'm -- >> it's a classic. >> i'm thrilled that they do. >> it's an absolute classic. i want to dig deeper in to mr. stiller. he professes to be this angelic character.

he can be difficult i've heard on the set. is that true? >> no. >> now it comes out. >> a polite way of putting it. >> perfectionist is not bad. he's extremely hard working and also right here. >> let's did. >> a fine line between perfectionist -- >> ben also directed me so i have two perspectives on ben. he directed "the cable guy xwts which i was in and never difficult. he is a perfectionist, very hard working. >> any tantrums? >> no. >> we were talking about the business of show business earlier. >> uh-huh. >> what do you think of it? you've had a long time to assess it. >> yeah. well, it's -- you know, it's always been a mix of commerce and art and those two things battle each other. when it goes -- when both things come together it's wonderful. i love a big commercial great movie. >> did you get more pleasure personally from one of the big broadway hits because you have that instant sort of visceral

reaction from the audience that you can never get with a movie or a tv show? >> it's very different, yeah. there's nothing, you know, it's encredibly thrilling to have the audience right there and to do the whole part all the way through. you feel an ownership to it which is great. it's -- and the adrenaline. ben does that, too. but then again after i have done that for a while i love the intimacy of a movie not worrying about an audience that's right there and i get to be just a little quieter and more close up in a way. >> and we both grew up around it in new york and matthew successful a lot earlier than i was. i used to go on auditions to play the understudy in the role he left two years earlier. >> i heard a great thing about you. you reminded. you have had terrible auditions. >> horrible. >> you say him fluffing. >> he wasn't aware of me. >> did you ever imagine in your

wildest nightmares he would turn in to this monstrous box office mega star? >> it is like a nightmare what happened. >> has it changed him for the worst in any way? no chink in the armor? >> not that i have found. >> keeps on trying to get in there. that chisel. chisel, morgan, chisel. to the soul. >> might be as nice as you say. >> i'm okay. >> i think it's -- bringing up people to be more candid about your tantrums. >> good. bring them out. >> these are the producer and director of "tower heist" and i reckon they're going to have a few stories to tell. daddy, come in the water!

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i was on the job when my homey was shot in the face. >> he's kidding, right? >> hot in your face, the bullet goes in the cheek and come out the other side. then what will you do? >> die. i'm going to die. i saw a television show once about a guy shot in the head

with a nail head. couldn't remember how to chew anymore. he had to put everything in a blender. >> that's "tower heist," new film and joined by the director and producer. welcome. >> well, thank you. >> thank you. >> let's start about -- i need some stuff on ben stiller. >> you mean bad things? >> anything you have heard. it doesn't have to be true. unsubstantiated rumor from the set. is he as squeaky clean as he's trying to make out? >> as far as i'm concerned he is. it's a big movie star. what am i going to say? whatever is good i'm going to say. >> what i love about you is that you can crush mr. stiller with pure box office statistics because your global gross is over $13 billion from all of your movies compared to his relatively pal tri $5 billion. >> it's a lot. >> unbelievable. >> i'm much older. >> he was still -- >> is it anybody in hollywood left who's got a better record

than that? >> i'm sure there is. >> little guy, steven spielberg. >> exactly. >> would he beat that? >> yes. >> would he? >> yes, he would. for sure. >> tell me about "tower heist." great fun. i watched it last night. it is funny, smart, i love the fact that it's so timely. you know? with all that's going on. we were talking earlier of occupy wall street. i don't think you got lucky. the financial thing bubbling under when you started this. >> occupy wall street actually. >> well, yeah. in terms of a plot line it's perfect. >> isn't that horrible if comcast was behind occupy wall street? >> 1%. >> brian, tell me about what's going on down there if your point of view. you are an american. you have been around the block a few times. you have seen a few ups and downs in financial but nothing quite like this. >> well, no. not anything like this other than three years ago we had -- but basically, i think people

are just mad -- they're mad as hell. do you know? >> do you understand it? >> not entirely because they don't have a specific message that they're sighing. i wish -- >> it's an outpouring of general dissatisfaction? >> i think when's happened is we bailed the banks out. then we gave them -- first we went after the rich. then we bailed them out. and now they're ahead again and i think that -- >> and giving themselves back whacking big bonuses again. >> and the working class is upset and the theme attics of that intersect with the thematics of the movie, oddly enough. >> who did you base the character on? >> madoff we did. >> there's been a lot of people. >> ken starr. >> there's accountants, lawyers, business managers. you know? any time anyone makes a dollar they have to give it to someone or they give it direct throw a bank. giving it to someone it is lost

in the language they don't understand. >> how important -- let me ask you. how important is someone like ben to a movie now? >> put it this way. we developed the movie brian and i for several years. it was eddie murphy's idea and there was a few parts to fill and i said to brian, how do we get this movie made in he said to me, go get the biggest comedy star in the world. i said, who's that? he said, ben stiller. >> the frat master as you're known. >> you said i was right for the part. you said you wanted me as an actor. nobody else would play this part. i understood the guy. >> a dream here. this guy thought he got it because he's a brilliant actor. >> it was partly that. >> you're dirty. >> and then any way to get it made? >> no. that's not true. >> you were a commercial tool. nothing more. >> it's not a cheap movie. you know? we wanted it to be but ben and i

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> hamburger's $24. >> we can't afford to eat here anyway. >> lunch is on me. >> "tower heist" starring amongst the gathering here, eddie murphy. what a great vehicle for him. it reminded me of "beverly hills cop" persona back. he had the idea for the movie to start with. >> yeah. he pitched us the idea and i was wanting to work with him since i was a kid and brian did five, six movies with him. >> a total of six movies with him. >> we thought this is the perfect opportunity to work with him. "rush hour" wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for eddie murphy. eddie murphy kind of paved the way. >> you are doing the oscars. >> producing the oscars.

>> eddie is hosting. >> yes, yes. >> a recipe for carnage. >> brian's a good friend and i said, brian, if you were producing the oscars, what would you do? he said, well, think about in the past the best host, the three best hosts that existed have been bob hope, johnny carson and billy crystal. so basically, he was saying to me, go get a comedian. >> i totally agree. >> i was looking at eddie murphy every day. >> wasn't ben available? >> no. we wrapped the movie. ben's busy filming multiple movies. >> yeah. eddie is -- i mean, he is a brilliant stand-up comedian and not done it for 20-something years. >> a big -- >> it's a big -- >> one of the great comebacks of all time. >> could be. we think it will be. >> i saw the interview with e saying it's the worst oscars ever. you know? and i'm going to urinate on everyone. i was thinking, this is fantastic. ricky gervais on speed. going to be brilliant.

did he make you feel intimidating? >> sure. eddie has been -- he's iconic for the last 25 years so -- and i had never really met him. i met him a couple of times so to be working with somebody whose body of work is that great and proceeds them, you want to try to be on your best game when you come in and you don't know what it's going to happen. and then he's -- and then he goes and when he goes it's like you're watching, you know, eddie murphy live. it's like you're getting eddie murphy raw and two feet away from you. >> it's intimidating. >> and thrilling and great. >> ben is probably one of the few actors in the world to stand toe to toe with eddie. >> but when eddie does this thing, you want to be there -- what i like about him is he's in the scene. it is about the scene for him. >> exactly. >> i never worked with anybody like that who has that much focus and like you said energy

coming out of him an you're just like, wow, this is just -- looking down the barrel. >> you're doing a movie with clint eastwood. >> i am. >> tell me about that briefly. >> well, i was just -- you know, i'm fascinating with j. edgar hoover. he was the -- really, the founder of the fbi. started in 1935 and went and he had something on six different presidents. that kept him in office for almost 50 years. so, and he's ultimately -- [ snoring sounds ] >> sorry. >> it's a -- >> what happened to "tower heist"? okay. >> we're doing -- i can do it myself. >> i'm fascinated. i went to see that movie. >> coming out a week after "tower heist." >> starring leo dicap rio. >> supposed to be mean, moody and magnificent. this is funny. >> cross dressing in the film? that's what everybody wants to know. >> we got it. >> who's the greatest actor you have ever seen?

>> these two. other than the two of these guys? >> i get people in the acting world and fascinated the actor's actor. who's the one to cast one leading man -- >> oh my goodness. >> in the last movie you ever make. who would it be? >> i can't do it. i don't know. >> ron howard. >> yeah. ron. >> opie. >> give me a name. you've worked with all of them. >> i liked working with denzel washington. >> yeah? >> thought he was great. "inside man wts request him. i have worked with deniro. i have worked with some really, really good actors. i would like to work with sean penn. i'm friendly with him. >> i'm going to be working with denzel washington. >> are you? >> in a movie. my first movie role. playing myself in this very studio. >> robert zemekis movie? >> yes. going to be really good. >> great. >> i have the call-up. i'm signed up and going to be a movie star so -- >> congratulations. >> won't be see anying of you

again which will be great. i think he's fantastic, denzel washington. >> so do i. >> "tower heist" is fantastic. i think a big hit and a comeback for eddie murphy. it's a great caper film at its heart, isn't it? >> it's a lot of fun. thank you very much. i'm glad you liked it. >> the halo remains, ben, tragically. >> tragically. >> not chipped. >> threw my best shots but didn't work. "tower heist" coming out with a movie theater near you soon. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> very amusing gentlemen and "tower heist" opens tomorrow and it's very funny. coming up, tomorrow, one of the greatest singers i have ever heard and one of the most successful. last album sold better