jerry sandusky faces a long list of charges,even counts of involuntary deviant sexual intercourse. penn state's athletic director tim curley and gary schultz are charged with perjury and failing to report an investigation into the allegations. sandusky retired from coaching in 1999 and founded a charitable organization for at-risk children called "second mile." he is accused of making sexual advances of eight young men he met through that very program. pennsylvania's attorney general, linda kelly, made this statement -- this is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys. it is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury that was investigating a series of assaults on young boys.

and penn state's president, graham spannier, released a statement reading in part -- the allegations about a former coach are troubling and it is appropriate that they be investigated thoroughly. protecting children requires the utmost vigilance. tim curley, and gary schultz operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion. i am confident the record will show that these charges are groundless and that they conducted themselves professionally and appropriately. penn state's legendary head football coach, joe petrir pate not facing any charges. he did alert tim curley about one of the alleged incidents involving sandusky in 2002. joining us on the phone is sara ganim, a reporter for "the patriot news." sara, what have you learned? >> reporter: we first learned about this in the summer of 2009, not long after the first boy came forward. i say the first boy, i mean the

first one to really come forward to police and be believed by police. what we know from today is that there's really like two sets of allegations here. there's a couple of kids -- there are two kids who accused sandusky of a prolonged relationship of abuse over a couple of years. and really adultlike sex acts. and then there's this series of shower incidents involved. a few other kids -- not all of them actually testified. some of them were cases where witnesses saw something in a shower and reported it or didn't report it and that's where you get these eight cases -- or they say eight victims. there are eight separate incidents -- >> sara, can i jump in real quick. this is new video coming in to cnn of sandy being arrested. new video of jerry sandusky being arrested. >> reporter: the indictment is

only about 23 pages. it breaks it down into each individual case, each of these eight victims. it starts off -- the indictment and the jurors started by saying, they all but come out and say that this charity was a point for him to get access to kids. it says basically many of these boys were vulnerable due to their social situations and this was how he found his victims. almost every single one of them was a child that initially was in a second mile program and began hanging out with sandusky. that's all alleged. but that's what the indictment says. >> there are no -- at least now, are there any new incidents? according to what i've read, these were allegations that stemmed from years ago, some of these men -- young men were in their teens then and now they are grown men or at least are older or of age at this point. >> reporter: that's correct. most of them are in their 20s. the child that came forward from clinton county, pennsylvania, in 2009, he came forward, he's

still a teen. he's the youngest of the group. and it does not appear that anyone has come forward who has been abused since that child came forward. so since the investigation began, it doesn't appear there are any new victims. what the attorney general alleged and called troubling was that penn state officials might have known about this back in the late '90s -- i'm sorry, back in early 2000 and didn't take the proper steps to stop it so that there were victims after that allegation in the locker room in 2002. >> sandusky has been aware of these charges for quite a while. and he has denied them, his wife as well denied these charges saying it's completely not true, correct? >> reporter: that's correct. from the moment we broke the story in march of 2011 this year, he came out and said, i'm innocent of all of this and i look forward to proving my innocence in court.

that was his mantra again today. >> timothy curley and also the senior vice president for finance business gary schultz, what's their status now? they're supposed to turn themselves in. >> reporter: they're going to turn themselves in monday morning in harrisburg. the reason for that is that where the grand jury met in pennsylvania. that's where the perjury is alleged to have taken place. what's interesting about that case, they're still employed with the university. youhead the statement from spannier, that he's backing them up. but what's interesting about their case, i think it's going to come out as kind of a -- this could end up being them versus joe paterno in some way. what gary schultz and tim curley say was told to them was very different than what that graduate assistant says he told joe paterno in 2002. and since the attorney general has come out and said that joe did the right thing, i think

he's going to be a major witness for this prosecution. >> i'm glad you bring up that. we talked about joe paterno. he's a legend. if you can explain to our viewers, i'm sure many of them know just how historic this particular football organization is and joe paterno is a legend in that area, the nittany lions. >> reporter: both of them are. if you were to ask me ten months ago the biggest names in state college, would be joe paterno and jerry sandusky in pennsylvania football. it's heartbreaking for a lot of people. a lot of people still don't have their heads around it. one of the first things that people asked me was, did joe know? it wasn't something that we could ever really answer. that was something that the a.g.'s office has now answered. but it's really -- you can't even match the legendary status. really they're number one and number two. >> again, you're looking at the

new video you saw there of jerry sandusky turning himself in to authorities earlier today just a short time ago. we want to thank sara ganim who's been covering the story from the beginning. sara, thank you so much. >> reporter: absolutely. let's turn now to other news, sad news. america's most lovable curmudgeon has died. andy rooney passed away last night from surgery complications. it was just a month ago that rooney signed off from "60 minutes" for the very last time. he was known for his wit on matters great and small. at the end of each single "60 minutes" program. and despite coming across on air as a really grumpy old man, so to speak, i hate to call him that, but that's how he came across. bob simon says in reality, rooney was a prince of a man. >> i think people looking at him on camera might not realize what a nice guy he was. he really was. when i joined "60 minutes" -- and "60 minutes" is not the

easiest club in the world to join -- he was awfully, awfully nice. he invited me to lunch. he'd call now and then to see how i was doing. he's a sweetheart of a human being which didn't always come across in his commentary. >> andy rooney, 92 years old. want to go now to connecticut where thousands of homes are still in the dark and the cold one week after a surprise snowstorm overwhelmed the northeast. the governor is clearly not happy by the pace of repairs. >> i also want to be very clear that i, too, am frustrated as is everyone with the pace that is being set. and we want to do everything we can as part of state government to help in performing the missions necessary. >> our national correspondent susan candiotti joins us now live from west hartford. susan, were they able to make much progress -- any progress today? >> reporter: they have been making progress today.

and i'll tell you why, don, because today we have seen more crews than we have ever seen before going through various parts of connecticut trying to get people's power turned back on. this is the kind of thing they're up against. for example, on this street, this is what takes extra time. you see that power pole lying in the middle of the street with a transformer? it's blocking the street right now, as are the power lines coming down here. that was after the heavy snow weighted down that tree, snapped it off, fell on top of the power lines. that's what's taking the extra time to get everything fixed. now, connecticut power and light says it has been doing the best it can because it never anticipated this much damage from a freak storm that happened a week ago. but if you're a resident without power and it is getting cold again tonight, it's not very pleasant. the state attorney general has already launched an investigation into whether the power company did all it could to prepare for this storm. right now, people are saying they're going to wait until that

verdict comes in. for now, the power company says they have all -- all power restored except for 15% of the people who lost power. will they make their goal of getting 99% back on by tomorrow night? they say they will make it. if not, the governor says it will be unacceptable. we'll see what happens, don. >> susan, stand by. we'll check back in with you. we want to go to greece now. another developing story where the prime minister vows to do whatever he can to get a painful but necessary austerity plan through parliament. george papandreou narrowly survived a confidence vote and now he wants to form a new coalition to get his company's troubled financial house in order. cnn's jim boulden is there for us. jim, what happens next? >> reporter: well, don, what happens next is that the president of greece will meet with the leaders of most of the major parties on sunday and he will try to get all of them somehow to come together to form another government, maybe under

george papandreou, maybe not. but what's really important here, as you said, is that whoever forms the next government needs to do it quickly and then they need to start debating and try to pass this very big austerity package. this is the package agreed to last week in brussels that fell apart earlier this week in greece. and this is the package that upset so many people, the g-20 summit when mr. obama and others were meeting in cannes a few days ago and why the markets were gyrating last week, because greece had a deal but then it fell apart. they had to try to rebuild that deal in the coming days. >> jim boulden, thank you. up next, a preview of tonight's one-on-one debate between two of the gop candidates, herman cain versus newt gingrich. plus, a incomes judge is caught on video whipping his daughter, spanking. there's a new debate right now about spanking children. we're going to talk about it. where's it going to come from? ♪

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until now, it's been hard to fit all the republican presidential candidates on stage. but tonight it's just two. newt gingrich and herman cain. cnn's political reporter shannon travis standing by live at the site of this debate, lincoln douglas-like debate, everyone is saying. will these harassment allegations against cain be off limits tonight? >> reporter: well, don, it will not be a part of the discussion. but it will likely be the

elephant in the room. this debate between newt gingrich and herman cain here in the houston area. as you just mentioned, herman cain is coming off a very rough week of sexual harassment allegations and the drip-drip of information and even more allegations. he's, of course, denied -- he said he's never done anything wrong, never sexually harassed anyone. none of that will be on the table for the debate between these two men. this is sponsored by the texas patriots pact. it's basically a tea party organization and they want to talk about entitlement spending. you and our viewers understand that entitlements take up the lion's share of the federal budget. that's what they want to focus on. one of the moderators is congressman steve king of iowa, not really moderators in the traditional sense of the word. they'll be tossing out questions and topics to gingrich and cain. it will be a free-wheeling

discussion in the style of the 1958 lincoln-douglas debates. >> why just the two of them, shannon? >> reporter: the organizers tell me they only invited these two because they feel like the discussions, the important issues don't get a full airing with so many candidates on stage, when you have seven, eight, nine candidates up there and each of them is only getting a minute, maybe 30 seconds to dive into a really serious subject. so the organizers tell me that they've only invited these two to this debate. but in future debates, that they hope to have, they hope to also have other candidates kind of square off against each other, again, in the style of the lincoln/douglas debates. we know back then that abraham lincoln did not defeat stephen douglas in 1858. >> thank you, shannon, we appreciate it. with mortgage rates at an all-time low now, a lot of

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now a texas judge court -- a texas court judge is accused of being a child abuser by the public. after his daughter posted a clip online of her father beating her. it is a graphic and disturbing video. but here it is. watch. >> stand over that bed. >> dad? >> stand over that bed. stand over the bed. stand over the bed. >> stop!

>> stand over the bed or i'm going to keep getting you on your legs. roll over. >> dad! >> the 16-year-old you just heard screaming is hillary adams who says the lashing was for downloading illegal music. she says it took place seven years ago. that's her now. that took place seven years ago, the video that you saw. that's the reason at that the local prosecutors say they can't file child abuse charges against her father, judge william adams. the statute of limitations of five years has run out. tonight, two human behavior experts weigh in. wendy -- both of you, there's -- i put this online. people have been tweeting this to me since last weekend, like sunday night, monday morning.

and there's a lot of support for him online. wendy, i'll let you start first. >> it's shocking to me because i would think that people would have learned at this point that corporal punishment is not an effective way to create behavior modification. positive rewards and logical consequences are the way to go. and downloading music? that's the easiest thing for parents to control. you unplug that box and walk it from the room and see how they do for the next week. >> doctor? >> i'm not surprised. corporal punishment, especially within the african-american community, has been used for years and had positive rewards. the problem here is what's the difference between abuse and discipline and what we saw in that video was clearly physical abuse. >> i have to say, to be honest, growing up, there was a lot of that happening to families and relatives. we saw a lot of that. wait till your dad gets home. then you would hear that coming from the bedroom. in my household, it wasn't the whippings -- they weren't that bad. but we'd hear it walking by our neighbors' houses. dr. tart, you have a point there

when you say that. wendy, i understand what you're saying. you're saying those modes of discipline may be outdated -- or are outdated. >> don, for every adult like you who says it happened to meened i turned out okay, there's still a child out there who had psychologically abused by this. >> judge adams has come out with a response. here's some of it. he says, hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support and took away her mercedes automobile which her father provided he would live to regret it, the post was then uploaded after that. that's his response. does that say anything about the father's remorse or does it say anything about the reason that the daughter put it up? does it tell you anything about either one of them? >> it tells me that when you live in a family that is dominated by control and intimidation, you create dependent adults. you don't create independent kids by not teaching them how to

self-regulate. if you oppress them and keep them on that leash -- this was in a weird way her brave act of independence to put this video out there because she had no other tools. this is an abused child who's now a young adult. >> why would she do it, though, seven years later? >> it could be part of her treatment in that before you can forgive someone, you have to go through rage and anger. this could be her way of standing up to him. but there's a problem. she's still dependent upon the abuser for financial resources. she's still not there -- her own independence. how many women break out of domestic violence but they can't leave because they have no way to support themselves. >> stick around. don't go anywhere. we've heard about the father and the daughter. what about the mother? why haley adams says she allowed this to happen to her daughter. [ female announcer ] if you're considering going back to school,

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as promised, dr. wendy walsh and dr. tartt are back. we were talking over the break, i like the conversation we had. i went to catholic school. almost every day i got either spanked or paddled or other people got spanked or paddled publicly in front of everyone. the nones would peel your hand back with a pointer or -- >> that's terrible. >> they did it, though. >> but you know what? we didn't have all the disciplinary problems that we had in school. you talk to teachers and ask

them if they want to bring corporal punishment back and they're going to say, absolutely. >> no different for the girls. >> but, yes, we've removed some violence from our culture but what we haven't done is replaced it with good behavior modifications that involve logical consequences that we need. and it's just as traumatic -- i told you on the break, too, while i wasn't strapped in school, i witnessed it in front of the class. that was traumatic for me. when i look at this judge's video, nobody's talked about the fact that early on in that video, there's a young, unclothed daughter who comes in and out of frame. she looks to be about 5 or 6. she's watching this. if you don't think by the way this judge knows what he's doing wrong, why did he turn off the light? he didn't want the neighbors to see. >> in no way are any of us condoning what happened but it's just the facts that many of us grew up with, corporal punishment. sometimes it was pretty severe. let's go to this video now. in this video, we have seen the

texas judge striking his daughter with a strap. let's see now his wife. >> you get over on your stomach and you let me spank you -- >> give her some more. >> you turn over. i'm going to spank you on your butt. you turn over like a 16-year-old and take it. like a grown woman. all the way on your stomach. thank you. he would force me to do things so when i'm out of the room, he's talking to me saying things -- telling me to go do things. and i was just very pressured. i act very zombie-like. my voice is very cold. >> what's it like for you to see this tape now? >> it was very upsetting to me. i thought he was a monster. i thought that i was a witch. >> okay. dr. tartt, what is she talking about? explain to us this accomplice-type behavior and her comments about being a zombie.

>> she said, lay over and take it like a grown woman. my guess is she was in the abusive relationship with her husband and she was being abused by him as well. when she said zombie-like, he manipulated her and controlled her to a point to where she felt like to keep peace in the house, this is what she has to do to physically abuse her daughter. that's exactly why she participated. this was not corporal punishment. this was clearly physical abuse. >> wendy, go ahead. >> i absolutely agree with you. this is where she's colluded with the aggressor. earlier in the video she says, you don't have to spank her, i already spanked her or let me spank her. she's trying to placate and find ways so it won't be as bad as it could be. but clearly she is being dominated as well. this is an abusive household all the way around. >> we heard the father's response that the daughter posted the video for taking away her car. let's hear hillary's response to

her father's statements. >> stand up. get on the bed -- get over the bed! >> okay. that is the wrong video. but she says it's not about vengeance for her father. she basically said, she was trying to show him the error of his ways, wendy. >> yeah, i think dr. tartt hit the nail on the head earlier when he said this could very much be part of her healing. before someone who's been physically or emotionally abused can move forward and individuate, they have to go through this. >> we'll talk more about this. we'll hear from hillary as well. more at 7:00 on this texas judge and that beating. coming up then, the super nanny, jo frost, gives her take and her

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we have some new audio recordings out of florida. a florida state trooper pulling over a speeding car and it's no ordinary car. a marked police car. it happened last month in miami. this officer is accused of driving 120 miles an hour and leading state trooper d.j. watts on a high-speed chase all because he was late for his off-duty job. listen. >> i don't know what agency it is. i'm on 91 almost to sunrise. he's well over 120 and he's not stopping. all i can see is a white patrol car with blue or something like that writing -- it would be a miami or d.o.t. and i'm sure it's not d.o.t. >> the trooper was then told to

pull back. she didn't and here's what happened after she pulled over the patrol car. >> put your hands out that window right now. put your hands out the window! >> ma'am, i didn't -- >> turn around. turned around right now. turn around. do yourself a favor. >> okay. well, the police officer faces a reckless driving charge. this case is generating a lot of chatter online. some people are angry at the troop for pulling the officer over. and others, well, praising her actions. lieutenant detective steve rogers is a retired police officer and law enforcement expert. he joins us now from new york. thank you so much for joining us. we have gotten so much feedback from this story. officer lopez's lawyer admits he may have been speeding. so what's the debate about here? >> well, there shouldn't be any, don. my hat's off to that state trooper who upheld her oath of office, whereas that miami officer put his life in danger,

the life of innocent people in danger and that trooper's life in danger. there is no excuse for these actions and now he's going to have to pay the penalty just like you or i would if that was us on that highway. >> lieutenant rogers, in your opinion, the trooper did not overreact to the situation at all? >> not at all. don, look at the nighttime -- the hour of the day or night that this trooper had to pursue this guy at 120 miles per hour. she didn't know who was in that car. when she discovered it was a police officer, was it a deranged cop? this guy had a gun on him, for goodness sakes. she did her job very professional. in polling myself, i talked to a number of police officers about this. and there are a lot of cops out there that are not too happy with this miami officer and their hat is off to this trooper. >> you would think as a layperson, most people think, you see a police officer driving fast, you see them driving fast all the time, you assume they're driving fast because they're chasing a bad guy or in a rush to get to a critical situation.

is it typical for one law enforcement officer to get suspicious of another for driving fast? why wouldn't the officer assume, okay, well, he must be on his way to do something because he is in a marked car? >> well, for this reason -- one is, there's no lights or sirens on that miami car. second, with the technology we have today, they're going to radio ahead, they're going to tell you, there's a miami officer in pursuit. i'll tell you, another thing you brought up, when the trooper was asked to pull back, many times we are asked on high-speed chases to back off, especially at high rates of speed to avoid a serious accident where injury or death could occur. so in that case, again, the state police did a great job in protecting the safety, which is first in the minds of all police officers, of innocent people as well as that trooper. >> and she didn't know. that officer could have been in trouble. could have been someone in the car directing him -- she didn't know. she's getting no response. >> right, don. we don't know who's in any vehicle that we pull over.

but they know who we are and they could be ready to take our life. when she got out of her vehicle and drew her gun, she did it according to the standard procedures that most police officers are trained by in every state to protect themselves. >> do you think that this is going to generate any bad feelings between miami police and florida state troopers and if so, what problems will that create? >> i really believe that police forces in this country are the best in the world. we have a lot of great cops in the miami police department, a lot of great florida state troopers. i know a number of them. and i believe those intelligent police officers who saw this know what went down here and will say, you know what, he did something he should not have done, he has to pay the price. that trooper did a courageous job in protects herself and the lives of innocent people. >> i had one experience with a trooper in florida. i got a ticket recently. he gave me a ticket but he was the nicest cop that i had ever dealt with in my life. he still gave me a ticket but he was a very nice guy.

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back to cop versus cop in miami. a few moments ago, we heard the audio recordings of a florida state trooper pulling over a speeding police officer. the officer allegedly was going 120 miles an hour, leading the trooper on a chase to get to his off-duty job. criminal defense attorney holly hughes joins me to weigh in. the police's attorney says the trooper overreacted to the situation. is he right? >> no, i don't think so. here's why. she had no idea who was in that patrol car. what if it had been stolen by an armed robber and he had shot the officer, the officer is laying on the ground bleeding somewhere? and the other thing we have to look at, if she had let this go and somebody else saw what was happening, then she'd be accused of doing her friend a favor, letting another cop get away with something. no, she absolutely did the right

thing. and why was he speeding? 120 miles an hour with no lights, no sirens to an off-duty job in uniform? no. she absolutely did the right thing. i was just getting ready to defend you pro bono until you admitted on national tv that you were guilty. >> i already paid the ticket. he was a very nice guy. it happens. >> i was going to help you out, but killed my case. >> he was a nice guy. then he said, oh, yeah, you're the guy from cnn, so i won't write you a ticket for this much -- >> celebrity pays. >> let's turn to the conrad murray case. the prosecution and defense painted very different pictures of who's to blame for michael jackson's death. listen -- >> what they're really asking you to do, just say it -- what they're really asking you to do is to convict dr. murray for the actions of michael jackson. somebody's got to say it. somebody's got to tell the truth. somebody's got to just say it.

if it were anybody else but michael jackson, anybody else, would this doctor be here today? >> michael jackson is dead, and we have to hear about poor conrad murray. and no doctor knows what it's like to be in his shoes. you've got that right. because i have not seen a doctor in this case who testified that they would ever do what conrad murray did. ever, including the defense experts. >> holly, in your opinion, who did a better job of driving home their point? was it the prosecution or the defense? >> well, i think it was the prosecution. but because they had better facts to work with, don. let's face it. even the defense experts ended up testifying for the prosecution. when they asked the defense expert -- the guy who's supposed to be paul white, he's the foremost propofol expert, the

prosecutor says to him, would you ever take a job administering propofol in somebody's bedroom? and he says, absolutely not! i mean, come on. you're just feeding the prosecutor more points in closing. so i think they did a better job of driving home their points. >> i kind of know the answer to this next question. but i want to know from you, because i was there from the beginning, the opening statements and there for a little of the testimony. i watched almost all of it. i maybe missed two days of it. were there any turning points for you in the trial? >> it goes back to what we were just talking about. i think when the defense experts ended up being turned for the prosecution because this is the end of their case. we heard from all the nice patients who thought dr. murray was fabulous. but then the defense winds up with these experts and the state ends up turning them around and getting them to admit, i would never in a million years engage in the behavior that the defendant engaged in. >> for me, it was the day when they pulled out the drugs and they were naming them one by one

and you saw them -- >> it was powerful. >> what do you think? do you have any idea? >> i think if the jury follows the law f they look at those instructions -- and the judge gave them to them in written form. and they asked for highlighters the other day on their first day of deliberations which tells me they're looking at a piece of paper they can write on. if they follow the law, they will return a conviction in this case. >> holly, thanks very much. mental illness in the african-american community is often misunderstood and rarely discussed. up next, a young woman battling schizophrenia opens up to help others. how are you doing? fine, i just got a little fender bender. oh, jerry, i'm so sorry. i would love to help but remember, you dropped us last month. yeah, you know it's funny. it only took 15 minutes to sign up for that new auto insurance company but it's taken a lot longer to hear back. is your car up a pole again? [ crying ] i miss you, jessica! jerry, are you crying? no, i just, i bit my tongue.

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in today's human factor, reducing the stigma that surrounds schizophrenia. a college student says she has come to terms with her mental illness and has learned how to manage it. she is now sharing her story with others. here is her story by dr. san yeah gupta. >> i heard voices, saw images of people following me that scares me. >> reporter: ashley smith knows what it's like to nearly lose it

all. >> i felt like my life was in danger. i felt like my family members and strangers on the street were against me. >> reporter: when she was in college, her sanity started slipping away. >> i thought everyone was against me. >> reporter: overwhelmed, ashley blamed it on stress. >> i would pray a lot about it. and i thought that if i just continued to cope with it the best way i knew how that i would get through it. >> reporter: but she didn't. ashley stole a military truck and led police on a high-speed chase. she ended up in jail. two months went by before ashley received a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, along with treatment. national alins liance on mental illness says 2 million americans have schizophrenia but in the african-american community, mental illness is often misunderstood and is not often discussed but ashley did something remarkable. she decided to be open with her diagnosis with the goal of helping others. >> a person with schizophrenia,

there's no face to illness. >> they learn to recognize signs and symptoms of people with mental illness. >> she has started her own nonprofit organization, embracing my mind, which helps low-income and homeless people with mental illness to get help. she is studying to be to become a therapist. >> i do it through my medication, my support network, which is my treatment team and my peers and family. >> reporter: she hopes that sharing her story will reduce stigma around mental health. >> those people who are newly diagnosed or still suffering or struggling with this illness, there are going to be some ups and downs, but it is very manageable and that you can succeed. >> reporter: dr. san yejay gupt cnn, reporting. award-winning journalist, andy rooney, is remembered. progresso. it fits!

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let's check your headlines right now. former football coach for penn state is facing seven counts of child sex abuse charges. they say he preyed on young boys he met through his youth charity. two current university officials are accused of covering up sandusky's alleged crimes and face perjury charges. tributes are poring in for andy rooney, who died last night in new york. known for his witty essays, rooney said good-bye to his regular gig on "60 minutes" last month. he had been hospitalized after suffering minor complications from a recent surgery. he was 92 years old. joe frazier is said to be in a philadelphia hospice, seriously ill with liver cancer. nicknamed smokin' joe frazier, he took on the biggest names in boxing, including muhammad ali

and george foreman. torrential flooding in italy. at least seven were killed as water rages, high winds and heavy rains are expected to continue until at least sunday. an horrific traffic accident in southwest england. at least seven people were killed and 51 injured in a 34-vehicle pileup. some of the vehicles burned to the ground -- burned into the ground and are unrecognizable. authorities fear there may be bodies in some of those cars. rainy, foggy conditions may have been a factor in that pileup. tiger woods' former caddy is apologizing for making racially charged remarks aimed at his former boss. he was at an awards dinner for caddies when he made the comment. woods fired williams. on his website, williams says he never intended to offend woods or anybody else for that matter. his agents says the comments were, quote,