herman cain had it. the polls up and down, newt gingrich gaining numbers. mark preston stand by for the anything goes this political season. >> no doubt. no doubt. >> thanks, mark. our next political update in just about an hour. a reminder for all the political news, go to our website, 24/7. cnnpolitics.com. really turning out to be an interesting political season. >> and the great thing about this is we still have a year to go. >> it's just getting started. jerry sandusky is fighting back against child molestation charges. he spoke by phone to nbc's bob costas. these are sandusky's first public remarks since his arrest ten days ago. >> i would say that i'm innocent of those charges. >> innocent? completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?

>> well, i could say that i have done some of those things. i have horsed around with kids. i have shourd after workouts. >> you're going to hear more from jerry sandusky throughout the hour. the heart of the occupy movement now wiped clean. these are shots of new york's zuccotti park being cleared of protesters in a police sweep early this morning. over 100 people were arrested. tents were pulled up at the stakes, and now mayor michael bloomberg says the campout is over. there's not going to be any more sleeping in the park. >> protesters have had two months to occupy the park with tents and sleeping bags. now they'll have to occupy the space with the power of their arguments. >> but a new york judge says police can't legally keep people from actually setting up those tents. so now protesters are heading back to the park with legal documents in hand.

we'll have the very latest developments. it was a pause, right? that's what presidential candidate herman cain -- that's how he explains an embarrassing moment before a newspaper editorial board. in a meeting with the milwaukee journal sentinel, cain was asked whether he agreed with president obama's actions in libya. after an awkward eight-second pause, here's how he struggled to answer the question. >> i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. no, that's a different one. i got to go back and see. got all this stuff twirling around in my head. >> cain eventually went on to say he would have gotten more information on who the enemy was in libya. the nba season now in

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arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords, while she's given her first tv interview since being shot in the head ten months ago. she's told abc's diane sawyer that she is sad, not mad, about the shootings that killed six people. with her husband by her side, astronaut mark kelly, giffords talked about the struggle to recover. >> how do you feel? >> pretty good. >> good? >> pretty good. >> i can see that your arm, your right hand, you move a lot more now. >> yes. >> is it painful? is it hard? >> it's difficult. >> just difficult. >> difficult. difficult. strong, strong. >> okay. that's the spirit, isn't it? >> she's got very good posture. much better than me. >> we love that. good for her. giffords says she intends to return to congress once she is stronger. all right. so for some it's the perfect day

after thanksgiving, a big, big meal to go shopping. the day is so popular, it has a name, black friday. shoppers wait outside. bargains everywhere, come running in. not everybody is looking forward to the event this year. our kara k-- carol costello is joining us from new york. are you one of those folks that goes running in for the bargains? >> are you kidding? no. i want to stay cozy in my bed and avoid the crowds. >> absolutely. >> this is coming from an employee in the department store. we hear it all the time with unemployment at 9%, you should be grateful for your job. anthony hardwick may be thampgfthamp thankful, but he's not afraid to complain publicly to save thanksgiving and the family. hardwick works at target. he planned to spend thanksgiving proposing to his girlfriend at his family's house. instead, he'll have to sleep in that day to be ready for work at target at 11:00 p.m. good-bye, holiday. good-bye, family.

hardwick has started a petition called tell target to save thanksgiving. it certainly has struck a chord. more than 84,000 signatures since monday. it's easy to understand why target wants to interrupt its employees' thanksgiving holiday. more people than ever are shopping on black friday. a whopping 22.3 million last year. we've all seen them, out at night, sacrificing sleep and shelter, anything for a good deal, anything. in 2008 a walmart employee was trampled to death bishopey shopt a long island walmart. this thursday retailers opening earlier than ever. target, macy's, and kohl's will open at midnight thanksgiving eve. for some employees, enough is enough. so the talk back question for you. is it necessary for retailers to open their doors on thanksgiving night? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your responses later this hour. >> carol, i'm with you. after that big meal, i don't feel like going anywhere. >> i don't either.

>> i just stay on my couch. >> some people look upon it as part of their family tradition when they all go shopping together. >> okay. >> just throw that into the mix. i'll be interested to hear what people have to say. >> thanks, carol. new york police in riot gear evict occupy protesters. what is going to happen to this 99% movement? and jerry sandusky now admitting taking showers with boys and what he calls horsing around. why did he go public with these comments even before he went to trial? then how someone like gabrielle giffords, who was shot in the head, can actually make such an amazing recovery just months later. also, a very unusual kiss going viral on the internet. we're going to show that to you. and later, more on a spectacular display of force from mother nature. ♪

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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. protesters in new york's zuccotti park are now fighting for the right to occupy. that is after their protest site was shut down by new york city police in this early morning raid. more than 100 demonstrators were handcuffed. they were arrested. the tents were pulled down. and this two-month-old revolution site essentially cleared out. here's how mayor mike bloomberg justified the move. >> we have an obligation to enforce the laws today to make sure that everybody has access to the park so everybody can protest. that's the first amendment, and it's number one on our minds. we also have a similar, just as important obligation torbgs protect the health and safety of

the people in the park. >> poppy harlow is live in new york with the latest. poppy, you are there at the site. take us to it. describe what is taking place there. give us a sense of the lay of the land right now. >> suzanne, just in the latest hour, we hear the protesters singing we shall not be moved. return to the park. they were gone for a few hours this morning. this is a sign a number of them are carrying, the 99% or under attack, nypd raid. they're talking about the police officers coming in the middle of the night and evicting entirely all of the occupy wall street protesters. we were here throughout the night reporting from 2:00 a.m. on. this is very peaceful what is going on here. about a half hour ago, there were confrontations on the other side of the park, suzanne. you can see these police barriers here. the protesters were pushing through them trying to break into the park, suzanne. it's really minute by minute right now. >> i understand that a new york

judge issued a restraining order which actually allows the protesters to come back and set up camp in the park despite the mayor's decision here. does this look like it's going to be a standoff that's going to play out for hours and perhaps days there? >> reporter: i think it absolutely could. this is a copy of what we believe is the court order. this came from one of protesters that was marching. a lot of them are waving them in the air. what it ostensibly says, until 11:30 a.m. eastern, about 20 minutes from now, when we have the next hearing on this issue, that indeed the protesters are allowed in the park, and also, it says, until the next hearing or any legal decision is made, the rules can't be enforced. what are those rules? those rules came down from the city of new york and also the private company that owns this park, and they said there's a 10:00 curfew. you can't bring in any sleeping bags or tents. you basically can't camp out here. i spoke with a protester who was

arrested this morning and was let go. he told me this morning. his name is john murdoch. and i asked him, where do you take the movement from here not being able to occupy the park? what does it mean for you? take a listen. >> it means it's not about a physical space per se. it is now worldwide. the terms of the debate have changed around, and the deal is now we have to evolve. this means it might get harder, but now it's more important than ever. i don't think anybody's going to like bloomberg's tactics. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here. you're seeing some very silent protests, if you will. this man holding an american flag, facing off with a police officer. you also see those in yellow vests. i'm told those are private security for the park. also, let's not forget, suzanne, that overnight the mayor's office said the protesters would be allowed in in the morning.

>> poppy, requestly, before i let you go, i had a chance to visit briefly where you are. are these the folks that are talking about income and equality? are these other folks, whether they are homeless or other people have different issues, who have come to congregate at this park. >> it's a good question. so the sense that i've gotten is that it's a mix. a lot of the protesters that i talked with at 2:00, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning were those that had been spending time down here, some that had lived here for a month or two months from the beginning, and others who were supporters of the movement that had come down from their apartments, for instance. it was a lot of young people, 20, 30-year-olds that were congregates. i really heard a message reiterated from a number of them, likely heard so long, we are the 99%. we are pushing for economic equality here. that's what i heard reiterated through the night. there was also a lot of anger,

to be frank, suzanne. there were physical clashes between police and protesters in the middle of the night. there has been anger here. we know 100 protesters have been arrested so far. >> poppy, thanks so much. appreciate it. check out the stories from our affiliates. a 9-year-old north carolina girl is found alive after two days trapped under a wrecked car. her father was killed in the crash. rescuers say the little girl survived by chewing on pop-tarts and sipping gatorade. three american hikers once jailed in iran are saying thank you to minnesota. that is where shane bauer, one of the american hikers, that's where he's from. the people there organized the free the hikers campaign and helped push for their release. and a pilot whale rescued by sea world orlando now getting around with a custom-made back brace. this is pretty cool. one stranded whale has scoliosis or curvature of the spine. getting some help there. want to go back to the

amazing pictures of the erupting volcano in central africa. boy, that's awesome when you see the lava spewing straight up. >> if you can get to goma, which is in the congo, you can get there for $400. it's a one-hour car ride and a three-hour hike, but you can see this. this is coming out of the volcano in the eastern sections of the republic of congo. back here to the maps, i'll show you where africa is. obviously, you know that, the big sahara desert up here. back in the congo region, that little dot right there is the volcano we're talking about. kind of a long ride from anywhere. one of the volcanos not that far from it, a couple years ago did destroy the town of goma. this volcano is far enough away so the lava is spilling to the north and not to the town of goma like this volcano did. let's go back to the pictures. you don't really get a reference

point. there are 350 park rangers escorting people to this event. this is almost 1,000 feet in the sky, putting it into perspective. that's a big, big building. almost like the empire state building. that's how high the ash is spewing. this is the largest erupting volcano in a century. it may not end for months, suzanne. >> that might be worth it to take that flight and that ride and that drive to see something like that. that's pretty cool. >> i'll go to kilauea in hawaii instead. >> i need to find a week off to do that. going on a shopping spree on thanksgiving? well, there's some major stores that are planning on opening now on thursday instead of black friday. going to tell you which ones and why.

the holiday shopping season getting off to a very good start this year. there's some major retail stores throwing the doors open wide on thanksgiving. that's on thursday instead of a day after or black friday, as we've all been accustomed to. so what's going on? alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. alison, don't you want more time with your family? appreciate famili precious family time on this holiday, or are you going to run out and start buying? >> reporter: oh, no, i won't run out and start buying, but a lot of people will. it's all about shopping and not necessarily giving thanks. here's what the interesting thing about all this. retailers are really trying to one up each other. macy's, target, best buy, and kohl's, they all say they're

going to open at midnight on thanksgiving. to not be outdone, walmart came out and said, you know what, we're going to open even earlier, at 10:00 p.m. and toys "r" us said we're going to open at 9:00 p.m. on thanksgiving. that's not enough time to even let the turkey digest. this is serious business for the retailers. this is billions of dollars for the retailers. you look at last year's black friday sales, and they totalled almost $11 billion. what retailers are trying to do is get an early jump on the most important shopping season of the year. suzanne? >> alison, obviously, not everybody is happy about this. the employees have to go to work. you've got a corporate push for a competitive advantage, but a lot of folks saying, wait a minute. what happened to my holiday? >> reporter: exactly. the holiday goes away, doesn't it? that's why you're seeing a backlash, especially online. there are actually online petitions against having shopping on thanksgiving. there are protests and boycotts there too if you go on facebook or go to change.org.

there's one worker who works at target. he says, hey, i'm not even going to be able to enjoy my thanksgiving turkey because i have to sleep all day to get to work at 11:00. the interesting thing about thanksgiving is everyone wants the day off. >> how are the markets doing? what are we watching here? >> reporter: markets still in the red a bit. not by much. the dow down 63 points. there's a new report out of europe showing that a growth there is slowing. there are worries building with a recession there. that is weighing on the markets. there are growing worries about europe's debt situation. but good reports in the u.s. on manufacturing and retail sales. they are keeping those losses in check. suzanne? >> thank you, alison. it's pretty unusual, right, for a criminal defendant to speak out even before the trial.

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and put in my 9-9-9 plan. >> herman cain there emphasizing his economic plan, saying mojo. a little play on the word at the coffee shop there. trying to get the focus back onto his 9-9-9 plan, stumping the very important state of iowa. we'll bring more of that to you if he makes any news from that coffee shop. here's a rundown on the stories ahead. up next, jerry sandusky is defending himself publicly now before the sex abuse scandal case even goes to trial. we'll look into this very unusual move. and then with her doting husband by her side, you're taking a look at a radiant gabrielle giffords. she's giving her first tv interview. we'll look at her remarkable recovery. and later, how does a kiss without even locking lips go viral? it has to do with making

beautiful music together. jerry sandusky says his behavior around children was nothing more than horseplay. the former penn state coach says any other interpretation is simply wrong. he's telling bob costas by phone that he never molested these eight boys. >> i say that i am innocent of those charges. >> innocent? completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect. >> well, i could say that i have done some of those things. i have horsed around with kids. i have shourd after workouts. i have hugged them, and i have touched their leg without intent of sexual contact. >> sandusky's attorney says that showers are simply part of the culture of the locker room. he spoke with cnn's jason carroll.

>> do you believe in his innocence? >> i do. i do. jerry sandusky is a big overgrown kid. he's a jock. for anybody who's ever played sports, you get showers after you workout. when people hear he got showers with kids, oh, my goodness, you know, like he got showers with kids. that makes him guilty, right? obviously, anybody who gets a shower with a kid who's an adult has to be guilty of something. but the bottom line is jocks do that. they kid around. they horse around. and, in fact, what jerry says in regard to one allegation that the coach or graduate student saw, he said we were horsing around. we didn't engage in sexual activity. >> i want to go to that because that's different. even talking about the showering, i think a lot of people have trouble with the idea of a man showering with the young boy. what are your thoughts on that? i mean, he didn't do it? i'm sure you wouldn't do it.

i would feel uncomfortable doing it, but jerry did that. that's a far more different thing saying he got showers with kids than saying he committed these other acts which the prosecution has alleged he did. i mean, what's going to come out in this case is that jerry did get showers with kids. >> it's a highly unusual practice, unheard of, for a criminal defendant, sandusky in this case, to go public before his own trial. criminal defense attorney richard herman is joining us from vegas. richard, first of all, explain to us why is it that sandusky's attorney would even allow him to make statements explaining himself and defending himself? >> suzanne, the case is absolutely out of control against sandusky now. i mean, the world has adjudicated him guilty, and this is actually just damage control to try to stop the momentum. there's reports there's ten more alleged incidents with other

people. so the attorneys had to put a stand up and say, listen, there is another version here. there's another series of events. there's another story here. there's another side to the coin. they did it for damage control. >> so the idea is that he's trying to have this tried in the court of public opinion now? >> well, the court of public opinion has already found him guilty. anybody you talk to, any talk show, any news broadcast, everybody has convicted him based on the grand jury testimony. those 23 pages, which are devastating. but suzanne, look, we need to step back for a moment. he is still innocent until proven guilty. we read that in the grand jury report. it is devastating. if they don't have the victim that mcqueary says he observed being raped. if they don't have that victim or if they do have that victim and that victim steps forward and says, listen, i was not raped. there's big trouble for the

prosecution's case. >> richard, what do you make of sandusky's defense? if you listen to him, his language is very careful. he parses his statements. he admits to horse play in the showers and leg touching but not sodomy. does this sound suspicious? could this argument hold up in court before any jury? >> you know, it's like yogi berra said deja vu all over again. this is the michael jackson molestation defense. yeah, i slept with the kids, but i had no evil intent. i didn't violate any laws. i didn't violate any of these kids. his lawyer says, he's a young guy at heart. he takes showers because he's a jock, and he horses around with kids. listen, i was a jock a long time ago. i took a lot of showers. i never took any showers with children ever. had i seen that, i would have taken that into my own hands, and it never would have occurred

again, trust me. it's incredible. some people want to hang on to try to protect the image of penn state, this might give them ammunition to do it. he's joking around. he's horgising around with them. again, i read the grand jury testimony. hugging these children, touching them, soaping them up -- that's not horsing around. that's criminal. and if this is what the testimony comes in at trial and it's credible, sandusky's going to have a major, major problem here overcoming that. >> and, richard, very quickly here, what happens next here? what happens next is the prosecutor has sent out an alert to anybody who believes they were molested by sandusky. apparently, more people are stepping up. they must locate the victim from the 2002 incident. they must locate him, and the other victims have to get their stories straight.

this is after years and years and years. they must get their stories straight. but this mcqueary, who provided the devastating testimony, where he says he observed, he personally observed sandusky raping this approximate 10-year-old child, suzanne, this can be cross-examined. what were the lighting conditions? how far away from you? did you actually see it? are you sure? are you 100% sure? they're going to beat him up on that testimony. and he never went to the police. so they're going to argue, it couldn't have been that bad because you didn't go to the police. there are problems with the prosecution's case. it's not a slam dunk at this point in time. when you deal with victims and actions that have taken place in their childhood and now they try to recall it after so many years, this potentially problems with the testimony. that's all i'm saying, and all i'm saying right now is as horrific as this story is -- and it is nauseating, it is disgusting, but this man, this is the united states, he's

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so many folks say it's absolutely remarkable how far gabrielle giffords has come. just think about it, right? she was shot in the head point blank range, survives that. ten months later, gives her first tv interview. >> when mark told you what happened? >> i cried. >> sad? >> oh, sad. sad. a lot of people died. >> hurts your heart?

>> yes, yes, yes. >> she is remarkable. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is here. when you just watch her and see her and you think what a miracle. how amazing is that? what did she have to do? what has she been doing to get to that point? >> first of all, nearly three-quarters of the people with an injury like hers don't live at all. the fact that she lived statistically is an amazing thing. the fact she has done so well is incredible. i will tell you, neurosurgeons are so good these days, rehab doctors are so good these days, there are other gabby giffords out there. there are people -- she is definitely on the, if you look at the spectrum, she is doing really fabulously. other people do well also. >> how does that come about? when you take a look at all the folks that have that injury. >> part of that is sheer luck. if the trajectory of the bullet had been slightly different, this would have been a different

story. i know that because i was on the phone with dr. don kim, who is her neurosurgeon. it's very difficult for a person to deal with that kind of frustration. dr. kim was telling me her thought process is normal. her thinking is normal. she just can't express herself the way that she would like to. but she's made incredible leaps and bounds. so you have to be strong enough to deal with that frustration and to work through it every day. >> she said she wants to go back to congress. they wants to go back to her job. does she need to be stronger? can they actually get there? is that realistic? >> her big challenge now, according to dr. kim, is her speech. that's what she really needs to work on. she used to be an incredible, dynamic speaker. will she ever be able to do that again in exactly that same way? it's impossible to tell. dr. kim says he expects her over the next couple of years to really get -- to really make

incredible strides. that's a different question. >> our production team, we're a little sentimental. we looked and watched and saw her husband mark kelly by her side. just wondering, how important is that to have someone, a loved one, whether it's a spouse or a sibling, right there, every step of the way. >> you're not just sentimental. it actually does make a difference. i've talked to so many neurosurgeons, and they have said that the support somebody has makes a difference. again, you need a lot of fortitude to get through this. imagine if i just said to you, suzanne, you can only say one word sentences for the next day. that would be so hard to get through that. >> very hard for me. >> you need someone to help you out. also, she's obviously getting fabulous care in houston. we also need -- we know this from our empowered patient

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presidential candidate herman cain, he is trying to recover from his latest misstep. cain stumbled over a question with libya during a meeting with the newspaper editorial board. he says he was just pausing to gather his thoughts. even after that, he struggled to answer the question from the milwaukee journal sentinel. >> so you agreed with president obama on libya or not? >> okay. libya.

president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of gadhafi. to make sure we're talking about the same thing to say, yes, i did agree or no, i didn't agree. i did not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. no, that's a different one. got all this stuff twirling around in my head. specifically, you asked me what i did and did not agree with president obama.

>> so cain said he had been asking questions back and forth. a lot of topics. he only had four hours of sleep. an editor who was not in the room said, this was not a case of gotcha journalism. >> when he went into the discussion, it didn't come across as a candidate who was under a grueling schedule. we were having a pleasant conversation. this is not a "meet the press" grill a candidate session. we're asking questions. he had just answered a question about the bush foreign policy when he said he agreed with how that had been handled and then a reporter, dan beis, asked him about libya and how obama handled that. all of a sudden, what occurred is what you saw. i think this is a very simple question. it had been discussed for months how president obama had handled the situation in it libya. you know, people can go and watch the question themselves. watch the interview and see how

it was handled. >> herman cain and other republican rivals are out in iowa today. they're holding the first big test of the 2012 election. jim is in iowa. jim, let's first start off with cain here. have we heard any more from him out of iowa regarding how he explains this moment, the struggle that he's having in answering that question? >> reporter: well, suzanne, he has some events this morning, and the eastern part of the state. he is expected to make some comments to reportered at one of those events. our political reporter shannon travis is out there, and he's waiting to see what herman cain says at one of these events. it's not really clear how much more he can say, suzanne. i mean, he said last night that he really thinks it's kind of neat that not only are his words being put under the microscope by the press, so are his pauses, is the way he put it last night

coming off a bus at one of his campaign events last night. so obviously, these brain freezes are becoming contagious for some of these candidates. but the polls show that herman cain is still right there in the top tier. he's still in the thick of it. he's not done just yet. and, in fact, there's a new iowa poll that just came out from bloomberg that shows he's in the lead in this state, which is pretty important. if you look at the numbers, they're quite impressive. cain at 20%. ron paul right there at 19%. then mitt romney and newt gingrich. herman cain is not done just yet. that obviously is not going to help his cause. >> jim, you talked to people on the road. do they buy this case that he's making here? do they believe that he's ready for primetime? >> reporter: you know, you hear mixed things from different voters. depends on who you talk to. our latest cnn/orc poll finds that women in particular are becoming very concerned about the herman cain campaign.

that has more to do with the allegations of sexual harassment than it does about how he answered some of these questions on foreign policy. one candidate that you might not hear a whole lot of pregnant pauses from is newt gingrich. he is really on the rise out here in iowa. we've been spending the last 24 hours with the former he's going to be at this event inside a manufacturing facility in sheffield, aiowa and he has come back from the political dead. tgs quite something to see his campaign make this turnaround. we had an interview and sat down with him and talked with him one on one. he was very candid about his near death political experience and said the months of june and july were the worst months of his political career, we'll have more from that interview later today on the situation room. >> we're looking forward to seeing that. thanks, jim. wolf blitzer is hosting a republican debate two nights before thanksgiving november

22nd. and that's going to focus exclusively on national security and foreign policy. you're not going to want to miss this one. a cnn national security debate happening november 22nd at 8:00 p.m. eastern. what's this? it's progresso's new loaded potato with bacon. it's good. honey, i love you...

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you've been sounding off on our talk back question, carol costello is live with your responses, hey, carol. >> today's talk back, is it necessary for retailers to open their doors on thanksgiving night? this from kyle, he says i think it's sick how commercialized the holiday season has become. i would say no, can't you wait for two days. from tommy, why not open, at

the end of the day most families want to get away from each other. eat, nap, eat some more, movie. this from sam, i have a friend who has to work at best boy 11:00 to 7:30 a.m. then be at work on saturday morning at 9:00. i've encouraged him to quit but he doesn't want to be jobless. from edna, i think he should suck it up and be happy he has a job. there are people who wish they could work black friday to make enough money to buy their children christmas gifts. gary, if sleep is more important than his girlfriend, he should reconsider the whole proposal idea. i'll see you again in 20 minutes. >> that was a good one. thank you, carol. >> a most unusual kiss going viral, this one of those things you have to see to believe.

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>> this is the kiss. >> translator: we're not talking about transmitting germs when we say the 2-year-old harmonic kiss has just now gone viral. typical reaction, what the hell did i just watch? >> 1% to say ooh. >> reporter: he is well known in the field of overtones, even if his harmonic kiss sounds a little dirty. >> take another person's mouth cavity and put it next to your resonator. >> reporter: the founder of overtone singing.com explains a person can sing more than one note at the same time by changing the shape of their mouth. becomes -- but the harmonic kiss got the kiss off from many, gross, you guys, get a room. they are like fish.

not quite the mermaid/man kiss in splash. he moves his wife around as he comes in for the kill like patri patrick swayze in ghost. though it is mostly for fun. >> used it for music therapy. >> reporter: therapy to solve marital problems though some might consider it grounds for divorce. he definitely has a seps of whimcy, using his fingers, a credit card and spoons. when it comes to the march mondayic kiss, this is one of those things, once you see it -- cannot be unseen, sort of like the al gore tipper kiss. at least women can say to the harmonic kisser, whatever she said to burt lancaster. >> nobody. >> reporter: nope, nobody.

jeanne moos, cnn -- new york. top of the hour, i'm suzanne malveaux. jerry sandusky says he is a fun loving guy who enjoys young people. but the former penn state assistant coach insists he never molested children. in an interview with nbc's bob costas, sandusky does admit he showered with young boys. >> i have horsed around with kids. i have showered after workouts. i have hugged them and i've touched their leg without intent of sexual contact, but so if you look at it that way, there are things that that wouldn't -- would be accurate. >> are you denying that you had

any inappropriate sexual contact with any of these underage boys? >> yes, i am. >> sandusky's attorney tells cnn that showering together is simply a part of the jock atmosphere in the locker room. sandusky is charged with molesting eight boys, some at the penn state athletic facilities. well, fighting for the right to occupy. these are shots of protesters returning to new york. after the protest side was cleared out in a police sweep this morning, over 100 people were arrested. this morning michael bloomberg said that camping out in the park over. >> protesters have had two months to occupy the park with tents and sleeping bags, now they will have to occupy the space with the power of their arguments. >> but a new york judge is firing back issuing a restraining order that would allow the protesters to set up camp again. we're following all of the latest developments later this

hour. well, he was pausing to gather his thoughts, that's at least how presidential candidate herman cain explains this embarrassing moment before a newspaper editorial board. in a meeting with a walk journal sentinel, cain was asked whether he agreed with president obama's actions in libya. after an awkward eight-second pause, here's how he answered. >> i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reasons -- that's a different one. i got to go back to see. got all of this stuff twirling around in my head. >> so cain's campaign, they say the response was taken out of context the paper's editor disagrees and says the video speaks for itself.

ten months after being shot in the head, congresswoman gabrielle giffords is talking about her remarkable and even tough road to recovery. she says she can never forget those who did not survive. >> and when mark told you what happened? >> i cried. cried. >> sad. >> sad. sad. a lot of people died. >> do you ever get angry at what happened to you? >> no. no. no. no. life. life. >> gifford says she intends to return to congress once she's stronger. we wish her the best. the nba season is now in serious jeopardy. team reps voted to reject the latest offer from the owners and instead take their fight over splitting the revenue to federal

court. that court process could take between 60 and 120 days which could wipe out the season. africa's most active volcano is putting on quite a show. look at this. this is lava shooting almost 1,000 feet in the air. you have to go to the congo to see it in person. this could be the biggest eruption in 100 years. protesters in new york are fighting now for their right to occupy. that is after their protest site was shut down by new york city police. that happened early this morning. an early morning raid. more than 100 demonstrators were handcuffed and arrested and tents were pulled down. the two-month old revolution site cleared. here's how mayor mike bloomberg justified the move. >> we have an obligation to enforce the laws today to make sure that everybody has access to the park so everybody can protest. that's the first amendment.

we have a similar just as important obligation to protect the health and safety of the people in the park. >> but the protesters are now returning. they are back in numbers. poppy harlow is live in new york on the scene. poppy, tell us what is taking place? >> reporter: this is interesting what just happened suzanne about five minutes ago. you see a lot of protesters and observers all around the park. a protester holding an american flag jumped a barrier because the park is still blocked off by awe number of new york city police officers. they jumped the barrier and ran in. i watched as probably seven police officers took the protester down and handcuffed him and took him away. we've seen stuff like that happening this morning. two hours ago a group of protesters war able to get in the park. but it has been shut by the police since they raided it last night at about 1:00 a.m. we came here at about 2:00 a.m. after being alerted what was going on. one of the protesters said this is happening, we came right

down. through the night it got progressively a bit more aggressive between upset protesters and the nypd. at sunrise this morning, the nypd was able to clear the streets of lower manhattan. within the hour protesters have returned. i want to play video. hundreds and hundreds of them returning to the outskirts of the park. we had a chance to speak with one of the protesters about what he thinks the next move is now for occupy wall street. take a listen to what he told me. >> we're intent on keeping our political movement going, the ideas that have been unleashed by occupy wall street about who gets what, who has a safety net, who gets thrown under the bus. they are going to continue. this is a setback. this shows how far our billionaire mayor and nypd will go to snuff out protests rather than honest very cherished

constitutional rights. >> reporter: and suzanne, that's the overwhelming sent. here that i've heard from protesters. this setback will not stop the movement. >> poppy, it's interesting because you have a new york judge who issued the restraining order that's allowing them to come back and you have bloomberg on the other side saying this is not acceptable here. is there a sense that the community itself, the people around this park are torn? are they fed up with this? how do they feel about the fact you have protesters who are now coming back? >> reporter: the protesters that have come back are committed to staying in there. you're tacking about this ruling that came down from a court earlier that said two things. it said the protesters were allowed back in the park and said the rules could not be enforced on those protesters such as the 10:00 curfew, not being allowed to bring in tents, et cetera. there's a hearing going on trying to figure out the legality and the mayor said we'll keep them out for now. there's a lot of curiosity among

spectators. we want to get back in the park. the police for all intents and purposes are completely silent but holding strong and holding protesters out. >> we'll be following this closely, poppy, thank you so much. since 2:00 in the morning doing an excellent job. thanks, poppy. what are the health dangers of a 2-month-old outdoor protest? we'll break that down for you later this hour. all right, for some, right, perfect day, after thanksgiving, what do you do, go shopping? black friday is the name. a lot of folks do it. stores open early and shoppers wait outside and bargains are everywhere, people go rushing in the store. not everybody is looking forward to the event this year there's a reason why, carol costello from new york with today's talk back question. carol, some people love to do that. love to go shopping and some got to get away from the family gathering a little bit, get a break, right?

>> sometimes that is the feeling, i understand that. but for the people who work in the stores, it's a whole different matter. at least for some of them. we hear it all the time with unemployment at 9% you should be grateful for injure job. anthony may be thankful but not afraid to complain publicly to save thanksgiving he says and the family. ha hardwick works at target and planned to spend thanksgiving proposing to his girlfriend. instead he have to sleep in to be ready for work at target at 11:00 p.m., good-bye holiday, good-bye family. hardwick started a petition, saying tell target at a save thanksgiving and it struck a chord. more than 83,000 signatures since monday. it's easy to understand why target wants to interrupt its employee's thanksgiving holiday. more people than ever are shopping on black friday, 22.3. we've seen them sacrificing sleep and shelter, anything for

a good deal. in 2008 a walmart shopper was tram ped. this year big retailers are opening earlier than ever. opening at midnight thanksgiving eve. for some employees enough is enough. so the talkback question for you, is it necessary for retailers to open their doors on thanksgiving night? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your comments later this hour. >> all right, thank you, carol. let's rundown some of the stories we're covering the next hour. we heard about the gop candidates, but how is president obama doing in the polls? we have brand-new numbers for you. also, pressure in the arab world is growing for syria's president to step down. then, police uncover a nazi terror cell that some are calling a new form of right wing extremism in germany. also, how a 9-year-old girl survived two days trapped in a car. later, will a new etablet

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the annual enrollment period ends december 7th. we can help answer your questions. call unitedhealthcare medicare solutions. we have new poll numbers just released. they are not about the gop candidates but rather about the man republicans are trying to beat, president obama. >> the new cnn orc numbers show us president obama's approval numbers, favor built numbers remaining about the same. take a look at this, 46% approve of the job president obama is doing as handle as president of the united states. 52% disapprove. how does that compare over the

past several months? right now he's at 46%. back in october, 46%. september 45, august 45. july 45. he's been relatively steady all of these months. he's hoeding steady, not going up or not going down. he's at that same 45, 46% level of job approval, which is adequate but by no means great, especially a year out from election. >> wolf, how does that compare with his predecessors during this time, during the re-election campaigns? >> we did take a closer look and we have the numbers for you and for our viewers. take a look at this. right now president obama is at 46%. at this point george w. bush was at 50% and he was re-elected. at this point in his presidency, bill clinton was at 52% and reee leked. the first president bush, was at 56%. remember he was riding really a wave of popularity because of

the first gulf war but defeated to bill clinton because the economy took a negative turn in '92. ronald reagan, 53% re-elected. jimmy cartser, 38%. gerald ford in 75, 41% approval. he was defeated by jimmy carter. and richard nixon, a 49% approval number and he was in fact re-elected. although he was -- he was forced to resign shortly after his re-election because of the watergate scandal. if history is a guide, the president if he wants to get re-elected he should try to improve that number. right now 46% i guess is okay but it's not by no means good enough -- usually they want it to be above 50% to have a reasonable stronger chance of getting themselves re-elected. >> he has a little bit of time. >> there are a lot of incumbency

advantages when you're the commander in chief and president of the united states. you certainly do have some certain advantages over a challenger to -- but you've got to have a good job approval numbers. that will certainly help. >> one big advantage the bully pulpit. we want to mention here too, wolf, that you are hosting a republican debate, the others trying to get the pulpit as well. this is two nights before thanksgiving, this is happening on november 22nd and will focus exclusively on national security and foreign policy. this is something you're not going to want to miss. this is the cnn national national security debate november 22nd, 8:00 p.m. eastern, my colleague, wolf blitzer. you'll hear from the former penn state coach in his own words. plus, people who use community organizations to prey on children. is it a widespread problem? we're going to find out.

forper penn state coach jerry sandusky said he is innocent of the sex abuse charges but he admits to horse play and other odd behavior with kids. take a listen. i say that i'm innocent of those charges. >> innocent, completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect? >> well, i could say that you know, i have done some of those things. i have horsed around with kids. i have showered after workouts. i have hugged them and i have touched their leg without intent of sexual contact. >> allegations of child sex

abuse against sandusky bring to light a much bigger problem, well beyond penn state and that is child predators, who actually seek out charities to prey on children. sandusky founded the charity second mile for disadvantaged children. now he's accused of molesting boys from that charity. we want you to take a look at other recent cases. just this month a man in utah who started an orphanage was sentenced for sexually abusing children. last week a priest was convicted of sexually abusing dozens of boys in miami's little haiti neighborhood. and also in portland, a jury found the boy scouts negligent last year in a sex abuse case involving an assistant scout master and convicted pedophile. joining me now, representing more than 300 sex abuse victims. thank you for being here and putting this in larger perspective here. when you hear sandusky say these

things about how he's touched the legs and engaged in horse play but not sexual abuse, what do you make of those comments? >> it sends about 25 red signals up in the air for me. i mean, you don't shower with kids. you don't hug kids in the shower. you don't touch kids legs in the shower. all of these things are basic common sense boundaries. they are also things that every charity should have rules about. one on one time with kids, what is it like, where is it? when does it happen? i mean, everything he said just triggered red light after red light for me. >> and you have dealt with so many, hundreds of those who have been victimized. is this a common defense? do you hear people talking this way say it was an innocent thing i was doing? does this ring familiar? >> i'm just a big kid, it's just

what we do. it's the kind of stuff we do. every pedophile i ever deposed or talked to was just a big kid in his mind. whatever goes on in his mind we don't care about. we care about what happens with kids and what are the procedures and what are the rules and how does this stuff happen. >> how big a problem is this when you look at charities and organizations who have had to deal with something like this and, like penn state, do they handle them well? >> well, it's a huge problem because these are institutions of trust. and we in society give them enormous trust and respect. in exchange we expect them to take care of our kids. that's the deal. i don't let my kid go out with smiling joe's day care center but might letmy kid go to the boy scouts of america because i trust them because of who they are. it's a problem. they have to have their guard up. they have to have cutting edge standards rules and policies,

they have to anticipate this kind of situation and keep kids safe. that's what they have to do. that's the tradeoff. they get the respect and trust from the rest of us and they give us that in exchange. >> give us specifics. what do the charities need to do if you're a parent and relying on these people to be trust worthy. when you look at a charity and an organization taking your kid and spending time with them, what do they need to have set up in place to ensure this does not happen? >> parents need to ask, show me your child abuse policies. show me, don't tell me, show me. who do we go to if we have a concern. what is my child told or are we told about the policies and procedures you use? what are your background policies, what kind of checks do you do on these people? do you have a policy, for example, that there's no one on one time with these kids? do you have a policy there's no time alone outside of the program activities. that's where a lot of this abuse happens is at the trusted

adult's home, we're going to have dinner afterwards or have ice cream. that's where a lot of this abuse happens. the parents should be asking, where are the policies and the organization should say glad you ask, right here, we just revised them last month, they are up to date. that's what needs to happen. >> kelly frank, thank you so much. clay clark, we appreciate your time. thank you. in a few moments penn state's acting football coach tom bradley will hold a live news conference. we will watch that and bring it to you as soon as it happens. an early morning crackdown by police, not enough to snuff out new york's occupy movement but how long can those protesters hold out against the elements there? i'm going to take a look at the possible health concerns. what's this? it's progresso's new loaded potato with bacon.

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first, a dark chap interpret from germany's past raising its ugly head.

an alleged killing spree held by a neo-nazi terror cell. is the occupy movement taking a wrong turn? we'll look at the gradually hardening stand of the protesters there. tablet wars heating up there. kindle fire bringing it to the apple ipad. so this is how it all began. >> tell people, what are we here? why are we here? what are we going to do? i don't know, maybe to help people out. >> this is what it has now turned into. >> presents a fire hazard. >> chaos as police tear down the heart of the occupy movement in new york's zuccotti park. more than 100 people arrested in an early morning raid of the park there. and now protesters are struggling to take that park back. similar scenes have been taking

place across the country. suddenly a movement that began as a peaceful protest has now hardened into a more aggressive standoff with authorities. what is the end goal of the protesters? i want to bring in eric baits, executive editor at "rolling stone", it's a publication some say is supporting or taking the side of the wall street movement. it's been two months now, people are trying to take away a clear message, definitive statement from this group from the protest. have they lost sight here? have they lost that message? >> well, i think first you have to understand that a lot of the protesters themselves are against having any sort of centralized message or clear commands. that is not the way they approach this. i think over time a theme to the movement emerged and that is of incoming quality and the growing gap between rich and poor and how it is fueled by government subsidies and government handouts to the rich and kril on

wall street. that's become a very clear focus that has spread the movement all over country and all around the world. >> what's the problem now? what's going wrong here now that you have these scenes that are playing out on the streets, people who are saying, this is turned into something that's become violent and sinister. what do they need to do now to move this forward and to make this something positive again? >> first off, i would say the only accusations of violence and sinister are coming from the right. the movement itself remained remarkably peaceful. the violence has come from the police clearing out chapel hill, north carolina, it looks like scenes out of baghdad and new york city. the protesters themselves i don't think lost focus at all. i think the question is how are the authorities going to continue to crackdown on this. and is that going to escalate the violence. >> i have to leave it there. i'm sorry, we want to go to a

live event taking place on penn state's campus as this is the acting main coach, tom bradley taking some questions now. >> mark olagain rich in allentown. >> the coaching staff held up with the changes you made last week? >> i should go over those changes right now. for this week's game, last week i still was involved with the defense calling the defensive most of the calls during the game. but this week coach johnson and coach vanderlin will make the calls on defense and i've elevated elijah will become one of our full-time coaches and bill cav nau will be our wide receiver coach from here on out. >> frank perdini in york. >> tom, now that the players had last week's emotions and all

that behind them, do they get any sense, can you maybe explain how you think they'll react this week to everything? do you get a sense of that at all already? >> they were great yesterday at practice. we talked briefly before practice about the game and where we were headed. i think a lot of times with everything that's swirls around them, they enjoy coming to practice because it's the one time they can kind of be themselves and no one is asking questions, they are there to play football. they know they have a job to do this week. we're still on the hunt for the big 10 championship and they know where they are headed to. they know it's going to be a tough football game. >> joe in philadelphia. >> tom, are you concerned for your players and coaches as representatives of penn state going into another city, following all of the troubling news of last week? >> not at all. we've been contact by ohio state. i talked to luke fickle called me the other day. we've been assured there will be

no problems. >> mike gross in lancaster. >> caller: hi, tom, are you concerned at all -- you talked a little bit about confusion and sort of communication issues early in the game last week with the offense. are you consider e concerned in giving up calling the defensive signals you create that possibility on the defensive side? >> well, it's a good question. with a week to work on it we should be okay. i'm always there if we have to go back to doing things the old way. but i just don't have my hands on it this week at all, very little. i've watched film and tape. i'll have the game plan in my hand and know obviously what we're calling. i can interject if i want to and get back in that at any time. the confusion on offense was one that when we lost mike for the game and the way we operate with coach paterno upstairs and mike downstairs, we have a system and when you change a system.

we didn't have a chance to prep the system a whole lot, personnel group with the wide receivers there was a little bit of -- >> we've been listening to tom bradley, the acting coach for penn state. the one replaced joe paterno. if there are any questions regarding the child sex abuse scandal, we'll dip back into that earn and take that live. we're about to go beyond the headlines consider cnn's international about syria. they are eig months into the uprising against the rule of bashar al assad, now a call for the peace keepers to end the bloodshed.

anti-government forces battled syrian troops overnight as the pressure on the country's president is racheting up. a leading opposition group called for u.n. peace keepers to be deployed in syria.

an arab leader now says that if he was syrian president bashar al assad, he would stop down. joining us to go beyond the headlines, first of all, you and i were talking about this. the number, more than 80 people killed. >> this is according to the local coordination committees who report their numbers outside of syria. 80 killed in a country of 22 million people. you have to put that on a u.s. scale, equivalent in the u.s. of 1,000 people killed in one day. the most in any one day of dead people in the arab uprising so far this year. it's becoming bloodier and bloodier and the important thing, suzanne, is to look at why this is happening. on the one hand, the crackdown is intensifying, the government is intensifying its crackdown on protesters according to the eyewitnesses we're speaking to. but we're also hearing reports of something more worrying and that is defecting soldiers have been fighting, regular army soldiers leading to the

intensified bloodshed. and soon parts of syria, he especially in western syria, which has been a flashpoint of the demonstrations and anti-regime movement in syria. >> that means that could turn -- this could turn into a civil war? >> that is the big concern. it has been for months. but we're seeing more and more evidence of it. we're hearing more and more from sources inside of lebanon that arms are being smuggled into defecting soldiers and opposition leaders from lebanon and turkey. that is not to say the crackdown has not been responsible for the vast majority of the deaths in the country since mid-march in syria where you've had civilians, including children according to the human rights organizations who we've been talking to killed on a daily basis there. >> what do we think the u.n. peace keepers can do? that possible to make a difference on the ground. >> first of all, the peace keepers only go into a country when both sides in a conflict agree to let them in. in this case we have a regime and protesters on the other

side. this is not an armed conflict between two sides like the case in other conflicts like in african nations. this just seems more of a symbolic call for international intervention more than anything realistic. >> you have an arab leader and jordan's king abdullah who said something very telling. i want our audience to quickly listen in here. >> i would believe if i were in his shoes, i would step down. however, it's not -- if i was in his position -- if it was me, i would step down and make sure whoever comes behind me has the ability to change the status quo we're seeing. again, i don't think the system allows for that. in he has ibt in the country, he would step down but also create an ability to reach out and start a new phase of political life. >> the fact he is putting out this hypothetical, that's pretty

extraordinary. you have another arab leader who has come out. is he tryinging to give a hint, you need to step down? >> it's more than a hint. he's exclusively saying if it were me i would step down. what i find interesting as well, the arab league, this toothless, pointless organization according to so many, is now tightening the noose on syria. even coming from these leaders across the region who themselves have not allowed in many cases their own citizens to voice their opinions and contest elections freely, even they are saying enough is enough. they are meeting am morocco in order to tighten the noose even more on syria. syria has been suspended from arab league meetings but even the gulf countries including kuwait and uae are saying this is not a worth while meeting to even hold. >> this is a critical time. this is potentially a turning point for syria? >> it is, the arab uprising, if

they taught us anything, something you thought would never happen happens. in the case of syria it's unfolding in front of our eyes, it's fascinating to watch and a very tragic situation. >> in case you haven't heard, there's another tablet on block. the amazon's kindle fire expected to give the ipad a run for its money. we're going to see how they stack up against each other. at first we want to bring in our free money advice from the cnn help desk. >> time for help desk where we get answers to your financial questions, joining me jack, the executive editor of money watch.com and donna ro sat toe, a senior editor. donna, your question comes from luis, he took his 10-year-old daughter to the bank and discovered that someone had opened a bank account using her social security number. so the question is, how can he monitor her identity and credit? >> can you believe it, ten years old. >> it's shocking but not

uncommon. people can steal identities often target young people because it takes so long for them to discover that there's a problem. usually it happens when they are taking a student loan or getting a job. that's one of reasons, it's really great this person discovered this now. you do want to keep an eye on the account. there are credit monitoring services but they can be kind of expensive, ends up being $200 a year. you can do it yourself at no cost. you can get three times a year at annual credit report.com, you can get the credit reports for no cost. if you want to do it more often, you can just buy them yourself and not that much money. >> worth checking. jack, your question comes from muriel. the only investment is through the military thrift savings plan. invests 5% but the military doesn't match that. how risky is the investment and should she lower the percentage she's contributing? >> no, first of all, she is very lucky, the thist savings plan is

literally the best 401(k) known to man. the expenses are so low that the average 401(k) is 67 times more expensive than the thrift savings plan. if anything she should raise the percentage she's putting in. >> go to the match. >> the risk has nothing to do with the actual plan, it's the investments within the plan she chooses. in this case i would say take the life cycle fund, it's very good, low expense and it will get more conservative as she ages. sounds like she may not be that into investing, go on auto buy lot and be glad she has that. >> she has a good option there. if you have a question you want answered, please send us an e-mail any time to cnn help desk at cnn.com. this is $100,000.

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a.m. market shares straight to apple. alison kosik is complaining this tablet war that's going on against ipad, yes? >> exactly, so if you compare the two very quickly, you can see with the fire you won't have as much freedom because it has

wi-fi. you will have limits on where to surf the net. and the fire doesn't have a camera or microphone. but amazon is very smart with this device. it's not trying to be the ipad. it's offering something different at a much lower price. an lifts say it could wind up being successful for a few reasons. for one that price you can't beat that price. $199 compared to the $499 base price for the ipad. secondly, amazon has its own line of faithful followers like apple does and people know amazon as a site where you can buy everything from toilet paper to tvs and diamonds. they have an established large consumer base that that he can tap into. >> what does wall street expect in terms of the kind of sales that the fire will get? >> yeah, you mentioned those expectations and expectations are very high. analysts expect them to sell 3 to 5 million fires by the end of the year and that was what the

original ipad sold when it first came out last year. and if the fire can pull it off, it will be a great start. but look at the ipad sales, they have skyrocketed since then, selling anywhere from 9 million ipads per quarter. clearly the fire isn't going to kill the ipad but the thing is with the fire by taking a different approach, the fire could be the first successful rival to the ipad. >> that's big news. could they still make money if they are just charging $199? >> that is a good point. if amazon was selling the tablet, it would wind up being a money loser. for amazon it's not just about the tablet but what you can add to it or buy with it. the fire has an amazon digital storefront so you can shop or get movies and ebooks straight from amazon. that's really the money maker. >> we'll see who wins this war. thank you, alison. >> we're getting a lot of

responses to the talk back question. should retail stores be open on thanksgiving night? sue hoffman says, for me, thanksgiving weekend, all four days, is for my family. i'll shop before or after kbron online. carol costello is back with more of your responses. so who ordered the cereal that can help lower cholesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios.

we've been soundsing off on the talkback question, carol costello is live with your responses. >> hi, suzanne, today aesz talk back question, it is necessary for retailers to open their doors on thanksgiving night. this is from jackie. you're already working long shifts for the holidays, i work 70 plus hours on christmas week

alone. don't give me this happy to have a job. last time i checked sweatshops were illegal. this from steve, the holiday season has been ruined by retailers. it takes consumers willing to be kplis it in their greed. now we won't have to wait for 5:00 for the first people shot to death over whatever this year's tickle me elmow is. the people at the retail end work and people at the corporate offices enjoy time with the families. this from kelly, necessary? absolutely not. i can see why retailers would want to, however employees should be allowed to choose whether or not they work that night and not be expected to. this from lynn, boycott these retailer that's show no respect for people's rights. we do not need all of this cr k crapola. haven't heard that term for a long time. >> be thankful for your family and leave the stores alone.

>> what would happen if we decided none of us would buy the crapola and said -- wished everybody a merry christmas, happy holiday? >> i'm working thanksgiving so i could say that but it wouldn't be true. >> i want you to see something, we have yours and my favorite brad pitt is making news. >> beautiful man. >> dreamy, okay. 47 years old. he's telling australia's news line that he's enjoying the production side of film making and he plans to retire from the accounting side of all of this at some future point and not only that though, carol, this is what i want to you focus on here. he wants to focus on his wife, angelina jolie and they are not done growing the family. >> family is family, isn't it? you're around trying to make breakfast for everyone. it seems to be the same. >> how big do you want your

brood to be? >> you know, i don't know that we're finished. i don't know yet. >> okay, carol, first of all, they are not married, so it's not his wife. but i think they are on six now. so they -- i think they are going for more. you and i are way behind here. >> well, if i was with angelina jolie i would want more children too. >> we'll leave it there. >> okay, we have more after the break. thanks. let's go to vegas. alright, let's do it. let's do it, let's go to vegas.

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germans are stunned and want some answers. a neo-nazi terror cell is accused on a killing spree that went on for a decade. german intelligence never knew the group existed. >> reporter: a burned out apartment in eastern germany that held a dark secret. germ an authorities say this was the hiding place for a neo-nazi terror cell probably responsible for murdering at least ten people. going back the information which we now have, germany's interior minister says it looks like we are dealing with a new form of right wing terrorism. officials say by all account it's the first time in post world war ii. the victims, eight earth in this case -- ethnic turks.

police say at least some were funded by bank robberies. the prosecutor's office said the group admitted to the crimes in a video they planned to send to german media. >> translator: i think the investigation needs to be carried out carefully, murkle said. this is shocking information and i hope the investigations are concluded so we have complete clarity. according to police, the terror cell consisted of three members, two allegedly committed suicide after a botched bank robbery last week. the third, a woman, set fire to the apartment and later turned herself in. a fourth man allegedly a supporter, has also been arrested. but they've not yet been charged nor have they responded to the allegatis.