>> that is also true. gentlemen, it's been a great pleasure. can't wait to see the show. it's been fantastic. you guys are what rock 'n' roll is really all about. i feel like i've learned so much tonight. >> do you feel dirty? should we, one more for the road? >> let's do it. motley crue. good saturday morning to evening. we are standing by to hear from herman cain. he will make an announcement about his campaign today after coming face to face with his wife last night for the first time since he was accused of a 13-year affair. also this morning in an extensive interview, the former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky says he is innocent of

child molestation. what you'll hear him explain in his own words, his, quote, attraction to young boys. also new this morning a boarding school refuses to admit a teenage boy because he has hiv. you will hear the school defend its decision. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com let's get you started with the headlines today. herman cain says he will make an announcement on the future of his presidential campaign. this will come in a matter of hours. we are standing by in atlanta to hear it. he is in atlanta today for the planned opening of his georgia campaign headquarters, but instead a lot of people are speculating that he could drop out of the race. as you know this week a georgia woman had said she'd had a

13-year affair with cain. he denied it. much more on this coming your way. also country music sin ner mccready and her son were finally found in a closet in arkansas. mccready took off with her 5-year-old boy. her mother and stepfather actually have custody of the young man. mccready actually only has visitation rights. police plan to send the boy back to his grandparents in florida. dr. conrad murray plans to appeal his conviction. he was sentenced to four years in prison for his part in the death of michael jackson. last month he was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. also, let me quote here, just get to the damn table, end quote. those are the tough words coming from the defense secretary leon panetta. he's talking about the prospects

for middle east peace. take a look. >> the problem is we can't get them to the damn table to sit down and begin to discuss their differences. we all know what the pieces are here to a potential agreement. they've been talked about, worked through. we understand the concerns, we understand the concerns of israel and the palestinians. if they sit at a table and work through those concerns and the united states can be of assistance in that process -- >> panetta said the push for peace is also on hold because israel is becoming more isolated in the region. also, the syrian government has reportedly banned the use of iphones in the country. "los angeles times" reporting that it's an effort to stop pictures and video of the ongoing uprising from getting out. thousands of people have died during anti-government protests there. we turn back to what will be the big story in politics today. the announcement from herman cain. a decision possibly of whether

or not he will continue his presidential campaign. a new poll out of iowa paints a pretty bleak picture. look at that. it shows how far he has fallen in the eyes of republicans who are likely to attend those caucasus. he's now at 8%. that's a stark difference from where he was just a month or so ago. our shannon travis has more on what we can expect to hear from cain in just a few hours. >> reporter: t.j., what happens in the house behind these gates will likely determine herman cain's political future. hoe arrived here at his home in an atlanta suburb to meet with his wife for the first time since the allegations of an alleged affair with an atlanta business womt surfaced early earlier this week. herman cain arrived here amid a convoy of secret service and security. he was in an suv. me and my crew, we've tried to wave. i've spoken with herman cain several times. there was no indication he saw any of us. on saturday herman cain said

himself he'll announce the conclusion of this reassessment period he's on. it's anyone's guess whether he'll come out and suspend his campaign or come out and thumb his latest accuser yet again. we'll be standing by for that. t.j.? >> thanks to our shannon travis. he's here in atlanta. we'll be checking in with shannon throughout the morning. also while herman cain ponders his future, the front-runners have a schedule going on all over the country. mitt romney has a town hall. and tonight gingrich, romney, and a couple of the other candidates are scheduled to take part in a presidential forum in new york. we're five minutes past the hour. we'll turn back to the penn state allegation. the man at the center of this whole scandal, jerry sandusky, is trying to set the record straight on his relationships with young boys. the former assistant coach sat down with his lawyers at his

lawye lawye lawyer's housing for a four-hour interview with "the new york times." we're just going to play a snippet for you now. take a listen. >> if i say, no, i'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth because i'm attracted to young people, boys, girls. >> sexually. are you -- >> right. i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. i mean my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young. >> you may have heard there in the background his attorney kind of jumped in and tried to help him clarify and then he said he's attracted to them -- he just enjoys being around young people. sandusky had several other things to say including saying coach joe paterno never spoke to him about suspected misconduct with minors. he also said second mile charity never restricted his access to

children until 2008. he also said in this interview that -- sandusky, he said he never sexually abused any child but he confirmed details of some of the events prosecutors cited in charging him with 40 counts of molesting young boys. he also says there his intentions were misunder. let me given you a quote from the interview now, quote, they've taken anything i everybody ever did for any young person and twisted it. to say that my motives were sexual or whatever, i've had kid after kid after kid who might say i was a father figure and they just twisted that all, end quote. well, it's seven minutes past the hour. let's say good morning to reynolds wolf. missed you last saturday morning. >> back at you. i wish we had better news for people in california and parts of the four corners. we're still talking about major wind. on top of that we have strong wind and snow that's going to be combined for parts of the four

corners especially parts of new mexico. we can expect gusts hopping possibly 60 miles an hour, over a foot of snow in higher elevations and even whiteouts for i-25 and i-40. the scoop's coming up. >> are you feeling all right? >> i just actually went on our -- it just babbled nonstop for the last three days. you know how much i can talk. yeah, so a little bit kind of shaky. >> that's all right. we appreciate your being here. we know you'll soldier on. your smartphone, folks, it might be a little too smart. it might be spying on you. there's a lawsuit now on be fha of 150 million people. good chance you're one of them. a good chance there's a secret program in there that's tracking every key you use. stay with us for that on this "cnn saturday morning." [ man ] pro-gresso they fit! okay-y... okay??? i've been eating progresso

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beautiful shot. what you're seeing there, folks, is the live picture on the deck of reynolds' miami home. that's where you were. >> never have times to go down there enough. snow drifts, et cetera. the staff is having a good time. >> we have these pictures out of new mexico. snowstorm, new mexico, quite a mess. what's going on out there? a foot of snow? >> there's going to fw a foot of snow, but in the highest elevations. if you're a skier the wind's going to be too strong. what's going to happen in the next day or so, when they have a chance to groom everything, it's going to be great.

for drivers along i-25, i-40, t.j., here we go. this is the season where you don't enjoy the mountains. they have to get obviously not your sea legs but you have to get your driving ability, winter driving ability back on. after the first storm things tend to get a little bit better. i'm telling you, it's going to be tough. anyone making their drive to central planes or florida, out by the house moments ag, anyone not used to drives through this weather is going to have a tough time. you might actually want to stop off in amarillo or lubbock until it desists. the big weathermaker, the reason it's going to give us other issues like travel delays in spots, not necessarily due to snow but the wind is going to be a tremendous issue. one that we've been talking about the last several days is the santa anas. it's one of the culprits of why we're seeing the heavy snow.

2 foot in albuquerque in the highest mountains. that's one of the big engines that's going to cause the storm to really intensify. we're going to touch on this later in the show. very quickly, not only do we have the strong winds, but fires to deal with. the winds will die down in the middle of the afternoon. we've got that weather system over the desert southwest. that's only the part of it. we've got the frontal boundary from texas to the western great lakes. rain first. then when you have the cold air mixing in behind it, rain, sleet, and snow. no, you're not going to see a foot of snowfall. it's not going to be as heavy in the mountains of new mexico but slick conditions. once again, rough times for travelers. to the eastern seaboard, it's going to be great. boston, southward to new york, even places like d.c. it's going to be nipping. 79 in d.c., 79 in miami. then you get to the other side

of the frontal boundary. 49 in kansas city, 42 in albuquerque and 63 in los angeles, 45 in portland. there ju go. t.j., let's send it right back to you. >> thank you so much. an important story here of interest to anybody with a cell phone. you wonder how much your cell phone knows about you. turns out they may know a whole lot about you. there's a class action lawsuit being filed on behalf of maybe you, 150 million folks. they're using secret software to track you and track what you're doing on your phone. would that change your habits? >> a little bit. i wish they didn't know anything about me, especially where to send the bill. >> they certainly know that. the carriers out there, it records what you type on your phone. apparently this app was supposed to be there so they could help you solve a problem when that's

an issue so they could get information from your phone. but they can record your phone number, web searches, everything you type in. it names t mobile, sprint, at&t as well as makers, apple, htc, motorola and samsung. we're not sure there's anything you can do to remove it from your home. there's nothing you can do to remove it from your phone. it's there, but it's supposed to be there to help companies defending what they're doing. they're not spying on anybody but they're capable and it rubs people the wrong way. >> maybe the rule of thumb is you need to have your text messages and e-mails to be kind of as though your grandma see going to read it unless your grandma is nuts. if that happens, then all bets are off. it could be really, really bad. thing about this. if someone happens to be missing, you're lost, they can track you. that's the difference maker. >> that's the upside. one thing before i let you go, what's the worst thing you ever

called your teacher growing up, some teacher in grade school. >> it's a family show here. i have to be really careful here. >> some things that shouldn't be said, sure. >> well, there's a kid now we're going to introduce our audience to who's actually suspended. you know what he called his teacher? >> i am flaw mixed. >> he called her cute. >> what has happened to the country. >> he called his teacher cute and he ends up suspended. we'll find out exactly what happened here and we'll try to get reynolds to explain what he called his teach sneer glad my texts are private. also, look at these. these never get old. we're going to see more and more of them as the year wraps up. we've got tears, we've got cheers as u.s. troops come home from iraq. we'll take you there.

we're 17 minutes past the hour on this "cnn saturday morning." welcome back. the end is near for the military mission in iraq. the major landmark was, of course, camp victory. now it's being handed over to iraqi leaders. this happened yesterday. the last u.s. troops left the base at the height of the mission in iraq. as many as 40,000 troops were

stationed at camp victory. by the end of the month, the withdrawal will be complete. that means we'll see more and more scenes like this one. [ cheers and applause ] >> don't you just love this? this is what it looked like when 100 members returned home to indianapolis. they're the last of the brigade's troops to come home. they've been in iraq for eight months. >> whoo! >> and this is the scene we saw with the last of the california national guard when the station in iraq came home. they wrapped up their ten-month deployment with this home coming. we're taken to another of these home comings, this one at ft.

hood in texas. >> reporter: well, t.j., i know you've seen a lot of these home comings, and it never gets old. the thing about this one, it's special. in the case of iraq, there is no next time. it's really hard to describe the emotion that was going on here before the troops arrived. i mean kids were running around, jumping up and down, they had so much excitement, anticipation of the families. it's been a long ten months. and then all of a sudden the smoke starts coming out, the gate rises up, and the soldiers continue out like rock stars literally. the crowd is screaming. everyone tried to make the speeches very, very short because the highlight was seeing these troops rushing to the arms of their loved ones, hugging, kissing, trying to catch up over what's been missed over the last ten months. >> a lot's going on.

first one in preschool, first one in high school. it's bic, you know. we're putting one in college this year. so it has been a very long ten months. i'm glad it's over. >> there's a sense of piece knowing that there's one less opportunity for us to be separated from our families. we know we still have our operations going on in afghanistan, other contingency operations that have come up, but to know what has consumed so much of our careers recently as a profession, to know that that's not there looming over us is certainly peace of mind. >> reporter: so the troops do have to do a reintegration training, basically getting back home with their families. after that they get a 30-day leave to kick back and spend time with the family and maybe let it sink in they were some of the last troops out of iraq and they won't be going back. t.j.? >> thanks to our chris lawrence there. stay tuned for the special coverage of the withdrawal from iraq. we've got several of our

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24 minutes past the hour and now we give you the news across the country. a novel way to give your kids the toys they want. if you're never sure about which toy your kid would like for christmas, how about renting some? we have a couple in boston who started the website rentgaru.

rent them for a moont. if your child gets attached to the toy you can buy it at a discounted price. >> a mom says her 9-year-old son was suspended for two days not for fighting or cheating. listen to this. >> i said her hair was cute. >> he called his teacher cute. the district's spokesperson said he was sent home for inappropriate behavior. meet one of the biggest fans. buddy has not missed a tiger football game in 50 year. he used to be the pilot for the team's airplane and even in retirement he has not slow down. his wife saying nothing can keep buddy home when his favorite team is playing. >> he's always gone, i promise you. he'll go if he has to crawl. >> buddy will be in atlanta today for the georgia/lsu s.e.c. championship.

we turn now to a story that's had a lot of people talking. a church says that do not condone interracial marjs. this couple attended services back in june. that i were visiting his parents. they plan to marry next summer but the church members approved a statement this week saying the church does not approve of interracial marriage. it goes on to say interracial couples will not be received as members of the church or used in wore "showbiz flashpoint" services. our erin burnett asked her if she's shocked by what happened. >> i was just floored. i mean to say that we couldn't sing in church because he doesn't want his granddaughter growing up thinking it's okay to

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we're at the bottom of the hour. welcome back, everybody. i'm t.j. holmes. thanks for spending part of your weekend with us. we're getting an update on the penn state scandal. we're getting it from the center of the investigation. it continues into this alleged sexual molestation, underaged boys at pep state. jerry sandusky, the former assistant coach, is trying to set the record straight on his relationships with young boys. he sat down in his lawyer's house for an extensive interview for some four hours. he was talking to "the new york times." a lot in that interview, but we're able to bring you this portion of it. you take a listen. >> if i say, no, i'm not

attracted to boys, that's not the truth because i'm attracted to young people, boys, girls. right. i enjoy -- that's what i was trying to say. i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young. >> now, you may have heard a voice in the background there. his lawyer jumped in, trying to get him to clarify. he said you're attracting to young people beet now sexually. sandusky had plenty more to say in that four-hour interview. he said the former head coach joe paterno never spoke to him about misconduct of minors and second mile chir tay never restricted his access to children until 2008. he also said his intentions were good but misunderstand.

he said, quote, they've taken everything that i ever did for any young person and twisted it to say that my motives before sexual or whatever. i had kid after kid after kid who might say i was a father figure and they just twigged that all. syracuse coach jim boeheim is apologizing for being angry and defensive. bernie fine is accused of sexual allegations as well. take a listen. >> i believe i misspoke very badly in response to the allegations being made. i shouldn't have questioned what the accusers expressed or their motives. i am really sorry that i did that, and i regret any harm that i caused. >> fine was an assistant coach for 35 years at syracuse.

he was fired last month over the allegations. we'll give you a look now at some of the other stories making headlines. this will be a headline later today. republican presidential candidate herman cain making an announcement of some kind, said it's going to be a big one today. a lot of people speculating whether or not he will get out of the race. cain has been denying having a 13-year extramarital affair with a georgia woman. he is in atlanta for two things, to talk to his wife face to face which he was supposed to do last night, their first meeting face to face since all of these allegations of the 13-year affair came up. and the other thing he was supposed to do was to open his georgia campaign headquarters. that event set to start in a matter of hours from now, and we expect to hear from him. we'll bring that to you. also former presidential candidate george mcgovern is in guarded condition at a hospital. he reportedly fell on the campus of westland university. he was there to be a part of a

live c-span presentation. he lost to incumbent richard nixon in 1972. also, newt gingrich still rising in the polls. mitt romney trying to fight back. herman cain -- what is herman cain doing? you know what? just look at what we've got in studio today. look at this. dear friends of our show for years now. this is the first time we've been able to actually get them to atlanta next to each other. republican mcallister and of course candidate strategist car doan. you all picked a he heck of a weekend to be here. we'll see them throughout the morning. i'm going to start with herman cain. is there any way in the world you can open a campaign headquarters and close it on the same day? is there any way he's really getting out? >> i say yes. >> today. >> i don't know if it's going be today, but think this is the beginning of the sunset. you can't open it up and close

it within a week because how do you overcome this? i really felt that herman cain's goal was going to be number two. if you look at the early debates, you could see mitt romney was giving the olive branch to herman cain. how is he going to have the muster or direct them intentionally? i don't see it. >> here's the thing. herman cain has been living in his own bizarro world. he doesn't think it applies to him. he could open his campaign office today and decide to get out tomorrow. what i thinking is going to happen -- again, prognostication has no reality because this has been such a bizarre process is

that he is going to continue forward, he's going to continue to deny all of these allegations, he's going to stay that his wife and his family support him. and then perhaps continue on. iowa is not that far away. he could very well continue with what he is doing now, do iowa. he's not going to win in iowa. and then get out after iowa and say i didn't make it in iowa so i'm getting out. >> okay. is he commanding this new cycle once again? when you listen to his words he didn't say i'm going to decide whether i'm getting in or staying out. he said i'm going to make a decision on how to go forward. is he messing with us again? >> he's not messing with us. he's controlling the news cycle. here's the problem with him staying in iowa. if he commands the news cycle, now the gop brand gets tarnished. they can't focus on unemployment and other things they need to focus on to beat obama in 2012. the longer he stays in the race the more it hurts the republican campaign which is going to be why there's more and more

pressure for him to leave now. >> is there pressure now? >> absolutely, absolutely. >> lenny is right. that's why i urge mr. cain to stay in this race. >> of course, she does. >> but in all seriousness, if you're a voegt and you're looking at what cain is going through, you know, it's worse than just the allegations. it's worse than just the affair. it's the cumulative effect of the allegations of the affair but also the fact that he has shown that he doesn't have the character to be commander in chief. if you get past the "it" factor, you get to substance. what substance is there? he didn't know how to answer the question on libya, and i know you want to give him a break on that, t.j. he didn't know that china was on nuclear power for 40 years. >> he knew that. >> then why did he say that? hey, though, we've seen him back and forth missspeak the whole time. >> that's the problem. lack of experience, lack of knowledge. >> accumulative effect.

>> kum la tucumulative effect. >> we were told people can forget. we had a heated discussion in the makeup room downstairs about this. i said people can forgive an ail adulterer, but they don't want a liar. >> yes. >> you were the one who said to me, no, this is a new day. they don't want either one. >> they don't want either one. more important than that, they want somebody that's going to be humble with this, be contrite. in 1992 bill clinton was con trait. he basically said mea culpa, moved on from there. even if this is part character assassination, there's a sense of humility that people want to see from their president and when they don't see that in a presidential candidate, somebody they can possibly see in the oval office, it makes them back off. that's why it makes more and more people say, you know what, her man, you had a nice run, we

didn't expect this, but maybe this is the time for the sub to set on your campaign. >> i agree with that. the time to move forward or leave the cam paper is over. a long time ago. even when the first accuser came out. he should have dealt with it head on and i think humility plays a lot into it. he doesn't know the meaning of the world humility and i think that to voters is a big deal. >> all right we won't be just talking herman cain this morning, but that will be a big part of the news cycle. but plenty of maria in the building. can you believe it? so good to have you guys here. >> thank you. >> we'll be talking with you plenty throughout the day. we have plans about newt gingrich and mitt romney. you picked the weekend to be here. we will bring you that live as soup as it starts to happen and as soon, of course, as cain takes the stage to make his big, whatever, announcement. we're 40 minutes past the hour now. coming up, another story that has people talking and outraged this week.

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it's a good place to get away too, right? 415. san francisco. you're looking at the bay bridge there in sfrachblts good morning to you all. at 3:43 in the morning where you are. 6:43 on the east coast. good morning once again, and we're talking about california. not necessarily northern california, the bay area, but southern california.

these winds, when you hear some of these wind speeds, wow. >> yeah, it's pretty intense. one of the big things that people wonder about, what in the world are the santa ana winds. >> we hear it all the time. >> it's really a simple thing. tmt j., i know you spent a lot of time in the golden state. it's when you have winds coming from the great basin or parts of the desert. as they move in that direction tay move in between canyons and mountain passes and as the wind channels through those places, the molecules -- geek speak here -- the molecules are compressed. the air actually heats up a little bit, and because of the frik friction, the heat and wind, it dries up. it only rain as few times a year. the foliage, we're talking about the chaparral and all the mountain grasses, they dry out even more. so if you have any kind of fire that pops up, it's going to spread very quickly. >> when can they pop up? can they pop up any time or are

their times they pop up more than others? >> it has to do with the atmosphere. that it could pop up any time. when you have any kind of winds -- anything that's going to create winds, anything that's going to rush them toward the coast and through the passes, that's basically how it goes. it could be really destructive. we're talking 60, 70 miles an hour. we're talking hurricane-force winds. you see the damage right there. you could argue these are the strongest winds you're ever going to see with in california because the current is so cold they're never going to deal with a tropical system like a hurricane or see anything massive like that. the strongest stuff is going to be the santa ana winds and obviously it has a detrimental effect. it topples trees, downs power lines. wide power outages can be expected. we expect them to last through mid to late afternoon. >> power outages? >> the outages may stretch on

for longer. the winds. one more thing very quickly. you have to remember the traveling that goes into effect. people trying to get into burbank or l.a.x. it will have a chain reaction. winds will be fairly strong in san francisco, not as strong as say across southern california and the san gab yels but it's going to be strong enough. >> reynolds. we're going to check in with plenty throughout the morning j i'm going to turn to a story that has a lot of people outraged. parents of an honor student who has hiv looking for -- hey, how are you doing? >> sorry, dude. >> reynolds, trying to work here. >> i'm not done. >> see what happens? i had no idea. you can't take me anywhere. >> when you and i are done here, i still have some work do here, so they usually like for you to walk around the camera. >> it's a three-ring circus. >> can we try it again. >> it's a three-ring circus and i'm the good. >> love you, man.

turning back to an outraged story, a young man denied admission to a boarding school because he had hiv and now that school defending its position. you'll hear from both sides. you stay with us on this saturday morning.

12 minutes at the top of the hour. attorneys for a 13-year-old pennsylvania boy are suing a private school for discrimination. they say he's not been allowed to attend the milton hershey school -- a private boarding school -- because he is hiv positive. here's what a school official told our anderson cooper. >> we believe we are following the law. we believe that we -- we know that the law sets a high

standard, and we've looked at this. we believe this rises to the level of a direct threat. a key issue for us comes down to sexual activity. we know that teenagers nationwide are -- a significant number are sexually active. our students are no different than any other teenagers. and on our campus, in our unique controlled environment, if one of our students is engaging in sexual activity, the odds are it's with another of our students, and we have parental responsibility for those -- all of those children. >> i spoke with rhonda gold fine director of the aids project in pennsylvania. she's also the parent attorney. i asked her about trying to reach an agreement with the school. >> we've attempted since august to work this out. we haven't gotten anywhere with the folks at hershey. the idea that they were going to seek an advisory opinion from a federal court is a bit unusual.

sorry. >> please continue. i'm sorry. >> we decided that once we were more than a third of the way into the academic year that we had no choice but to file a lawsuit and finally get this mat owner the table. >> the school says at least -- and you can understand why this is different from the ryan white case, in that he was going to school for the day and he would go home to his parents and go home at night. they say at least the school that this is different because this boarding school would put kids around age 13 years old in close quarters together. they would be living together 10 to 12 in a home, and as i'm reading their statement, they say, we are serving children and no child can be assumed to always make responsible decisions that protect the well being of others. is there any threat or risk there that you're putting other children in some kind -- i mean it might not be that possible, but there is a slim chance that giving kids in these tight quarters things, that something

flukey could happen. >> no. i think that that -- that argument is just a red herring. i mean let's think about it. the courts have been clear that there's no reason why children with hiv can't be in congregate settings, they can't go to school, they can't go to day camp. so what is it about this setting that from 8:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. that creates this great risk that's not in a day school? i mean we shouldn't think that these folks are in a submarine. they're in a school, and they're in a school where there should be parents who are -- house parents who are supervising their activities. even if, even if they thought that our student presented some degree of risk, they didn't do any analysis. they didn't look into it. they didn't consider him. they just decided that that diagnosis was too risky for them. >> does he still want to go to school there? >> sure, he does. >> all right. >> he's -- he wants a good education, and the hershey

school boasts academic excellence. we hope that they'll understand that he can be a good student. >> now, the centers for disease control prevention says hiv is not transmitted by casual contact. that includes a casual kiss, shaking hands, using a toilet seat or handling a doorknob. we'll continue to follow this story and let you know what happens with that lawsuit. we're about eight minutes from the top of the hour. we'll return next to a state senator who wants to send a message to those unemployed. volunteer or you don't get jobless benefits. is that fair? is that legal? stay with us for that.

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he's here to explain it now. thank you for coming in this morning. i have just talked with you. a lot of states have attempted this before but none have passed. you want your state to be the first. >> it's a great think. good morning. thanks for having me on the show. when people lose their job, it can to be defeating. getting motivated. getting out in the morning, learning new people, serving new folks, getting stuff on your resume is only positive. when you're helping charities and people, nothing but good can come of it. >> shouldn't people make the decision for themselves? >> that could be true but unfortunately we're at unprecedented times. we need to get people back into the work force. as you know, there are people who have given up on looking for work now. we need to get folks back in there. we as a government want to get them back in the environmental.

>> what makes you think it can pass the legal test? what makes you think you can legally attach this condition? >> well, i think if you look back in history, the wpa and o'things that were done back at the time of the great depression, we can put those same practices back at the great recession. i believe there's legal precedence to do that and i believe we have to do it status quo. we have to do things differently and do them better. >> how did you come up with 24 hours? i haven't said that yet. it's 24 hour as week that would be required to volunteer. that's a huge chunk of time for someone trying to find a job. how did you settle on that amount of job? >> three days a week is a really good amount of time. you think about this. most people find work when you're already working. we already know you can work a full-time job and find work. to give back what would be three days a week of business time is more than reason snoobl that business time, a lot of people could argue i could be using

that time to find another job. we all know certainly in these times -- and georgia has had a higher unemployment rate in the nation for quite some time -- it's a full-time job to find a job. >> t.j., what a better time to find a job than to be working, have skills on your resume and meet new people. that's a key component to finding new work. >> now, who's going to administer this? how are you going to enforce this? we've seen big systems put in force. you're going have police it some kind of way. it's going to cost money. >> technology is our friend. everybody that's in georgia or is a nonfor profit has access through our secretary of state and other departments. there's a database connecting the two of those telling a charity if someone's going to volunteer for them, log online so we can see they've logged their hours. it's very inexpensive, easy to manage and we can get this program done. >> what are your chances? >> i believe very high. i wouldn't be doing it unless we

were going to pass it. >> senator albers. this is coming up at the beginning of the year here in georgia. >> correct. >> we'll follow this and have you back in. >> thanks, t.j. >> thank you. >> have a great day. >> thanks so much. we'll reset things in a moment and give you the latest on the stories that you may have missed overnight. there was a lot happening overnight. also the latest oen a big announcement expected from herman cain here in atlanta in just a few hours from now. stay with us. ??? i've been eating progresso and now my favorite old jeans...fit. okay is there a woman i can talk to? [ male announcer ] progresso. 40 soups 100 calories or less. [ electronic beeping ] [ male announcer ] still getting dandruff? neutrogena® t/gel shampoo defeats dandruff after just one use. t/gel shampoo. it works. neutrogena®.

vk -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good saturday morning to you all. we're at the top of the hour. wherever you may be, we're glad you're here and we're standing by for news from herman cain, expected to make an announcement about the future of his campaign after coming face to face with his wife last night since the first time he was accuseded of a 13-year affair. also, new from overnight, in an extensive interview, former

penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky says he's innocent of child molestation. you'll hear him explain in his own words of his, quote, attraction to young boys. i'm t.j. holmes. thank yos so much for being with us here. again, this will be a big day in politics. thanks could really, really change today when herman cain steps out. he says he'll make an announcement on the future of his presidential campaign. he is back home in atlanta today for the planned opening of his georgia campaign headquarters, but instead many people are speculating that he could drop out of the race. this all after a georgia woman this week said she had a 13-year affair with cain. he denied it. also this morning, a quote for you. this one coming from the u.s. defense secretary. just get to the damn table. those were the words from leon panetta for israel's leaders. he's talking about the prospects for middle east peace.

take a listen. >> the problem right now is we can't get them to the damn table to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences, you know. we all know what the pieces are here. to a potential agreement. they've been talked about, work through. we understand the concerns, understand the concerns of israel and the concerns of the palestinians. if they sit at a table and work through those concerns and united states can be of assistance in that process. >> panetta said the push for peace is also on hold because israel is becoming more isolated in the region. well, the syrian government has reportedly bans the use of iphones in the country. "los angeles times" reports it's to stop pictures of the ongoing uprising from getting out. thousands have died from anti-government protests there. also the man at the head of the penn state sexual abuse scandal is trying to set the record straight on his relationship with young boys.

former assistant coach jerry sandusky sat down at his lawyer's house for a four-hour interview. take a listen to him explain his relationship with young boys. >> if i say, no, i'm not attracted to boys. that's not the truth because i'm attracted to young people, boys, girls. i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. i mean my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young. >> you may have heard there in the background his attorney kind of jumped in and tried to help him clarify and then he said he's attracted to them -- he just enjoys being around young people. sandusky had several other things to say including saying coach joe paterno never spoke to him about suspected misconduct with minors. he also said second mile charity never restricted his access to

children until 2008. 'san does sky saying his intentions were good, just misunderstood. he said, quote rks they've taken anything i everybody ever did for any young person and twisted it. to say that my motives were sexual or whatever, i've had kid after kid after kid who might say i was a father figure and they just twisted that all, end quote. its's five minutes past the hour. herman cain and his decision about whether or not he'll continue his presidential campaign. a new poll out of iowa paint as pretty bleak picture for him. as you see there it illustrates how far has eh has fallen in the eyes of the republicans attending the iowa caucuses. he's at 8% now as opposed to 23%. our shannon travis has more on what we can expect to hear from cain in just a few hours. >> reporter: t.j., what happens

in the house behind these gates will likely determine herman cain's political future. hoe arrived here at his home in an atlanta suburb to meet with his wife for the first time since the allegations of an alleged affair with an atlanta businesswoman surfaced early earlier this week. herman cain arrived here amid a convoy of secret service and security. he was in an suv. me and my crew, we tried to wave. i've spoken with herman cain several times. there was no indication he saw any of us. on saturday herman cain said himself that he will announce the reassessment period he's on. it's anyone's guess whether he'll come out and suspend his campaign or come out and thumb his latest accuser yet again. we'll be standing by for that. t.j.? >> thanks to our shannon travis. we'll be checking in with him live throughout the morning. and while herman cain is pondering his future, the front-runners have a pretty full

schedule. mitt romney and. and tonight gingrich, romney, and a couple of the other candidates are scheduled to take part in a presidential forum in new york. we're just about seven minutes past the hour. kids know there's a lot of stuff you can't get away with in school. you can't cheat, you can't fight, but you also can't call your teachers name. you certainly can't call her cute? yes, this kid learned a hard lesson. that story after the break, but reynolds wolf would never call his teacher such a nasty world that would get you kicked out of zoo. >> no, no, no, no, no. we pursue excellence here. we wouldn't have go that crazy. looks like it's going to be rough across the four corners. southern california, another day of dealing with the santa ana winds. the parts of the high mountains of the rockies, a foot over snow and whiteout conditions on parts of i-25 and i-40 coming up in a few moments. we'll see you. good morning.

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it's nine minutes past the hour. let's get what we've got going on there. reynolds, this is just outside of our front door. this is at centennial park right across the way, and they are setting up. that is espn getting set, i believe, getting set to do the coverage of the big s.e.c. championship today. they're not on live yet so you don't need to switch over and check them out.

let me make sure i make that clear. big game. lsu taking on georgia for the s.e.c. championship. not a whole lot at stake. some say if lsu loses they're going to end up in the championship anyway. i don't even care anymore. >> see, i know you and you love things to get kind of crazy. >> kind of crazy. >> and i know if lsu loses this game, you've got a lot of teams that have got just one loss, and that throws the whole bcs into pandemonium. >> i'll change my tune tomorrow morning. if they lose, i'll yell and scream. houston should be the first. >> why not. >> why not. absolutely. >> one thing we can't take a poll on, one thing we can't worry about, is the weather. nothing you can do about it. it's going to be brutal in southern california. other places that are going to be tough are, say, parts of the four corners. take a look at this. i don't know if you can see this well. the numbers are kind of bleak here. 1,403 miles. that is the length of the storm system that extends from the great lakes clear down to parts

of new mexico, even toward el paso. it's a combination of wind, it's a combination of rain. you've about got sleet in there. it's a tremendous mess. it's going to create massive conditi conditi conditions. parts of i-25 and i-40. if you're making the trim from albuquerque to santa fe, beautiful trip but if you want to see the tops, cloud cover. some places could get a foot of snowfall in some locations. great for skiers not today but in the. going days. once the system moves toward the east, it's going to be better for you. southern california, same story. santa ana winds approaching 60, 70 miles an hour. i would expect those numbers are going to rise. the winds are going to weaken, though, by late afternoon. so that's some good news. we've got the wind, the snow, of course, the travel conditions we're going to be dealing with. in los angeles you have not only the wind but very low humidity

is going to give you the critical fire threat for the day. so if there was any fire that was set, it could spread very quickly, especially across the san gabriel rielles. high temperatures warming up across the nation. 489 degrees in kansas city, 36 in salt lake city, 64 in san francisco. back east we go, 48 for new york, 62 in atlanta, 79 in tampa. speaking of weather and speaking of football, thankfully, t.j., two big games, the one in atlanta and of course the big ten championship game, both indoors. so these good. >> that's always good. >> unless you like weather to play a little bit of a part. >> no. >> no? >> no. no excuses. >> reynolds, thank you. this story that reynolds and i were going back and forth about a little earlier, and, of course, we would never call our teachers naples because it could get you suspended from school. what if you called your teacher

something, you know, innocent. a 9-year-old in north carolina, he called his teacher cute, and this young man you're seeing was suspended for two days. you heard me right, folks. he wasn't fighting. he wasn't cheating. he didn't call the teacher a bad name. let him tell it. >> i told my friend she was cute. >> he called his teacher cute. maybe that is inappropriate. at least that's what the school district's spokeswoman was saying. he was sent home for what was, quote, inappropriate behavior. we're kind of making a little light of this. maybe there is another side to it and you should set some kind of a standard or a rule or whatever it may be and you shouldn't have that kind of, i don't know -- you should. think of your teach ner that way. >> you can't call your teacher cute? >> you can't? >> you can't. there's a division here. you've got the role of the student, the role of the teacher. the teacher should be respected.

she's in a position of authority. like in the military, a private does not refer to a sergeant in a derogatory or shifty angle. >> let me throw this at you. he was talking to another student. it's not like he said it to the teach sneer that's entirely different. i mean, still, be careful. really it teaches him to be careful. you say certain things at certain times, certain places. hypocritica hypocritical, but, still, he needs to beware of his surroundings. >> reynolds, i love you. >> i'm 'scaping. that's all i'm doing. >> i'm going to take you to myanmar. wrapping up a visit to that spot at the place where no secretary of state has been in more than 50 years and meeting for the first time with, some say, is a kindred spirit. that's next. stay with us.

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the hour now, and it's time for our "morning passport." did you know hillary clinton has gone where no secretary of state has gone in quite a while. of course, we bring you in for this. this is a really historic trip. >> really historic trip. first time in 50 years that such a high-ranking u.s. official has gone to myanmar. for hillary clinton, the highlight was visiting aung san suu kyi. there you see her talking to her. just a quick reminder aung san suu kyi came back to look after her mother in the late 1980s and in the 1990s got involved in politics, and her party won. and when it won, that i banned the party and they banned aung san suu kyi. she has been under house arrest. you see the garden of her home.

it's really as iconic as she is. when you thing of aung san suu kyi, you thing of her home. also, the home was given to her mother by the government when her father was assassinated. so her father was responsible. aung san suu kyi's father was responsible from liberating burma frew the british. she never saw her husband from 1995 to virtually -- he died in 1997. she never saw him. she wasn't allowed go back to england she was allowed but she didn't want to because she knew if she went back, she wouldn't be allowed back in the country and her husband wasn't allowed in myanmar. >> senator clinton truly looked thrilled to be there standing with that woman. >> she really was inspired by her. she said on her plane flight down to myanmar, she actually saw a movie of aung san suu kyi,

and she said meeting this woman, this legend, the person they call the mon dell of asia was inspirational. did you notice hillary had her hair back. if you watched the clips, she mirrored her baev, something about being degreeny feed of being in the presence of this iconic person. >> we hope and the united states hopes there will be changes coming to myanmar. >> that was the idea. she was there really to promote what seems to be steps toward democracy and 280 political prisoners have already been released but police clinton would like more. there you see her at one of the temples where she had to take off her shoes and socks and so did all the secret service. but they hope it is the beginning of a new era of democracy and change in that region. >> we will be seeing nadia bill check again this morning. thank you so much. it's almost time for clyde.

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don't spray and pray. it's going be ail over the internet and somebody's going to call me about a job. be focuseden it. find yourself a dpaep you want to work for shoo should you limit yourself? >> nobody wants to see a resz may anymore. you we've got to know these companies inside and out and you've got to figure out how do i get inside the company and what do i do to make moours stand out and make them know i have the skill set to work for their company. >> skill set. what if you don't have it yet? >> go to trade school, take additional classes. some thing you have to go spend a lot of money to get another degree. that's not always the case. specific skills. now i know the company i want to work for. let me find that job that's going to work for that company. >> you talk about the classes there. what is this tapping into your network. >> it's about whou you know and what you know about them and they know about you. >> you hear that. shaking hands. >> exactly. >> is that the type of networking? >> the thing that people get messed up, it's not about

passing out business cards. it's forming relationships. i'm specific about who i'm going to meet and you have to go that. you have to know you, like you, trust you. they know you then they like you and trust you and give you a job. >> it's all about online now. you need to have parentheses there. >> you have to have an online presence. you have to have your own drog. there's a website called about.me. use your social media, twitter, facebook. talk about who you are and what you're looking for. >> do you direct people back to that stuff? >> you direct them. it's kind of like the pull. not the pushing salespeople anymore. you're pulling people toward you. >> how do you market yourself? i guess that's part of it. you can't buy a billboard. >> it's about building a campaign. watching and realizing. i'm sure you could say, okay, in the next six months this is what i want to do.

they even got videos out there. 17,000 videos of people doing online resumes. a guy did a create iive one for going and he wanted to get a job and he talked about his skill set and why they needed to hire him. we have to be that intent in this economy of getting that job. >> all right. clyde, you sold me on this one. you got me. you sold me on this one. clyde anderson as always with us every saturday morning. >> my pleasure. >> a church in kentuckying an interracial couple they're not welcome. saying they do not approve of interracial marriage. you all have been responding in an amazing way to this story. some of those vee responses when i come back. for more than dand? yeah, it does seven great things like giving me a healthy scalp and great looking hair. you should make that eight things. dude, why don't you just use the stuff? [ male announcer ] head & shoulders: seven benefits. every bottle. forty years ago, he wasn't worried about retirement. he'd yet to hear of mutual funds, iras, or annuities.

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a church in kentucky telling an interracial couple that they're not weapon. church members passed a statement saying they don't approve interracial marriages. i asked you about this. you've been commenting a lot. careyparrish says it's very disheartening. another says it's not surprising that things like this are still happening in the u.s., but my goodness, we're talking about a church. another from sheila saying