>> this may be just a young lady who ran into the brush in an hysterical state and fell down and you know, expired for some reason. >> reporter: police will dry out that pocket book and cell phone to see what clues they may be able to get from all the new items they found. >> all right, chris knowles in new york. we're watching a story out of blacksburg, virginia. you're looking at pictures thanks to our affiliate there. at the virginia tech campus, it is on lockdown because of a shooting that took place earlier today. police are for a suspected gunman. what we do understand, according to virginia tech authorities, two people were shot dead. one was a police officer making a routine stop on the campus. and then according to eyewitness accounts, the alleged gunman

then took off to a parking lot where another person was killed. still unclear, the identity of that person. the entire campus on lockdown as authorities continue to look for this suspected gunman. now watch this. an emergency summit to save the euro. jon corzine on the hot seat over millions of missing dollars. jerry sandusky, a free man for now. and possible dangers of two birth control drugs. we begin with allison at the new york stock exchange for reaction to jon corzine's testimony before congress. what did he have to say about the more than $1 billion that has gone missing from mf global? >> reporter: lawmaker said show me the money and jon corzine said, i don't know where it is. we're about $1.2 billion of customers' money missing from mf global's books. corzine saying i simply do not

know where the money is saying he was stunned when he found out it was missing. now corzine did apologize to investors and employees, saying he never intended to break any rules. but at issue here is did mf global use customer money for its own needs as the company's financial situation got even worse? there are questions whether that would violate securities rules. investment companies are supposed to keep their customer money separate from the firm's money. you have the fbi, the cftc investigating. and one other thing to notice there. jon corzine was sworn in in front of the agriculture committee which usually does not swear in its witnesses. so obviously, there are thoughts of more to come with what jon corzine has to say. >> meantime, mf global. whatever happened to that company? >> reporter: in short this is an invest many firm that made a lot of risky bets. it bet against the downward trend where everyone else was running from europe as far as

investments go. mf global was running toward it. it you had wound up having more than $6 billion tied up in debt from those weak european countries. the very debt at the center of the european debt crisis that weighs down the market every day. the company was burned by its large exposure to that sovereign debt. but corzine said the overall percentage of assets that the company invested in europe actually fell during the time there. but the problem is, the money that was invested was dumped at the wrong place at the wrong time to say the least. >> all right. thanks so much. next, jason carroll in bell font. where jerry sandusky just posted a quarter of a million bail. jerry sandusky was released from the center county correctional facility. he is now back at home under house arrest. cameras were there as he pulled into his driveway. he is out on $250,000 bail. part of his bail, he'll have to

wear some sort of electronic monitoring device. also, he will not be allowed to have any contact with any victims or any potential witnesses. he can have no unsupervised could not tack with any minors. this, all the result of being arrested yesterday. he now faces new allegations of sexually abusing two boys. that brings the number to ten victims, alleged victims, who say jerry sandusky sexually abused them when they were young boys. his next legal hurdle will be his preliminary hearing. that is set for next tuesday. >> all right. thanks so much. jason carroll. the makers of the birth control pills yaz and yasmin are in the hot sealed. they want to know if they are concealing information about dangerous side effects. elizabeth cohen is here. what are we learning about these drugs that perhaps people did not know before? >> these were heavily marked drugs. you saw ads for them all over the place. women together and running

through fields and looking happy. and what some are alleging is that studies that were done, not by bayer but by indiana doctors, they show this drug has a two to three time higher blood clot risk than what the bayer studies showed. ? they didn't know this before? or is this data new? >> here's what's happening is that plaintiffs, people who are suing say that in fact, bayer knew about this and basically hid it. i want to introduce to you a woman of she is 20 years old. her name is elizabeth rimy. she died on christmas eve 2008. and her twin sister and her mother will be testifying. they said she was perfectly heavy. she had taken other birth control pills before. after a couple of months of being on yaz, she collapsed. it turned out she had a blood cloth and they say doctors say it was because of yaz. >> when someone sees an advertisement for a drug, they figure it is fda approved. that means it is safe penning

what your doctor prescribes. should people rethink how they look at ads? >> i think people should rethink how they look at ads. here's why. if you see an ad for a drug, it is pretty much by definition new. new means expensive. they're pushing it because they want to make money. new drugs are not as tested as old drugs. if you're seeing an ad like this one, new drug has not been tried out most likely on millions and millions of people yet. and drugs that have been tried out on millions and millions of people are, we know more about them. they have more of a track record will so before you go to your doctor and say, give me that thing i saw on tv, think again. you might want something old per has more of a track record. and remember, if you're seeing these ads, guess who is in your doctor's office most likely? drug reps pushing the same drug. so your doctor has been told, this is the greatest thing ever. you're being told this is the greatest thing ever. and really, it might be just as good or maybe even worse than drugs that are already out

there. i want to add that bayer says yaz and yasmin are safe and they'll be giving a statement by the end of the day. meantime, this just in. we're getting word that exams, final exams have been postponed on the campus of virginia tech. earlier we've been reporting to you that the entire campus is on lockdown now on this first day of what would have been final exams. there was a shooting on campus. at least two people, according to virginia tech authorities, two people have been killed including that of a police officer making a routine traffic stop. we'll give you more information as we learn it. but meantime, those exams have been postponed. but lockdown is still in place. up next, eric holder under fire and on the hot seat. the attorney general called to testify on the operation that sent guns to drug cartels and republicans aren't forgiving. floating words like jail, lies, and even impeachment. that's next. plus, they died serving this country.

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if it's interesting and happening right now, you're about to see it. rapid fire. let's go. the u.s. military now confirms partial cremated remains of at least 274 troops ended up in a virginia landfill. they said it was much more widespread than first believed, dumping military ashes as medical waste was halted in 2008. partial cremated remains are now buried at sea. form he syracuse university assistant basketball coach bernie fine is being sued for

alleged sexual abuse of a minor. the suit filed today by zachary tomaselli accuses fine of molesting him in a pittsburgh hotel room after a game in 2002. there are questions about tomaselli's credibility. a prosecutor has given finl's lawyers evidence that may help them try to disprove tomaselli's allegations. and eric holder is on the hot seat. the attorney general testifying again on capitol hill about the infamous fast and furious debacle. the operation sent hundreds of weapons into the hachbds drug cartels. republicans blasted holder for shifting blame. >> what are you going to do to clean up this mess? >> nobody in the justice department has lied. >> holder says republican critics are trying to score political points by calling for his resignation. and tragedy near las vegas. a helicopter taking a tour group on a sunset flight over the hoover dam crashed into a

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in politics, momentum is everything. and newt gingrich clearly has the wind at his back right now in the race for the presidential nomination. new cnn polling shows the former house speaker is leading his fellow candidates in three of the four early voting states. in eye warning he has a double digit lead over mitt romney at 33%. in florida, gingrich is polling near 50%. mitt romney is not even close with 25%. the same goes in south carolina with gingrich on top at 43%. even at mitt romney's beach head, new hampshire, the former speaker is gaining graund. with all that being said, let me bring in our chief analyst. at these numbers, it looks like

gingrich has all the momentum right at his pocket. >> he does. he has a lot of moment dlul. that's important because we're very close to the iowa caucuses. we're less than a month away. but let me caution you this. nothing is locked up. this has been such a topsy turvy kind of race here. that you can have momentum one day and you can not have it the next day. what we know of newt gingrich, he is an undisciplined guy who is prone to speaking his mind. and sometimes that can get you in trouble. we also know that the voters, republican voters are very undecided. half of them say that they can still change their minds, fred. >> interesting. so you write on your column at cnn.com about romney and the focus of his campaign saying. this quote, romney is promising us we will see more of him. and that's a start. oh, and by the way has he noticed that gingrich may be a

lucrative target of attacks since he is now ahead in three early state polls? iowa, south carolina, and florida? so far, all we've heard from romney is that gingrich is a career politician. that's true but it is also true that romney would have been a career politician had he won his senate race or his last bid for the presidency. it is not a great line of attack coming from romney. that's what you write. so are we seeing that romney is perhaps going to be taking a much more aggressive approach? >> well, i think the campaign is really pivoted today, actually, i think what you're seeing is not romney himself. but some key surrogates like former new hampshire governor john sununu, coming out in a conference call, talking about the newt gingrich that they knew. let me just tell you what sununu said, for example. he said that gingrich was

self-serving, self-agrandizing and displayed irrational behavior when he was the speaker of the house. so they are not tiptoeing around newt gingrich anymore. the question i have is when will the candidate, if ever, will mitt romney himself take on newt gingrich's leadership when he was the speaker of the house. because that was very controversial. >> okay. and newt gingrich has been asked about what is behind his surge. he sat down with wolf blitzer yesterday and this is his take. >> can you taste this republican nomination right now? >> no, i think it's not -- look. remember, i was way down here and now i'm up here so i know you can go way back down here. we still have a lot of work to do. with the next four weeks in iowa, then a real rush in new hampshire. then on to south carolina. then on to florida and nevada.

all those are within about a month. so i think if we have a little interview right after nevada, we'll have a better sense of how real it is. >> so gloria, it was not long ago, you know, his tune was a little different. he was pretty certain that he would be the nominee. now he was being a little more hesitant. >> he told abc he would be the nominee. you a funny thing about the vote,they dope like to be told what the outcome will be before they go to the polls. and i think that newt gingrich, his handlers have clearly said, you know what? don't be so full of yourself. it seems a little arrogant when you picked victory before a vote has been cast. so he won't be doing that. and also, realistically, he understands that it is not a direct and easy path to the nomination. that this could go on a very, very long time. because some early states are not winner take all in delegates. they could be divide up.

so you could see romney and gingrich kind of following each other way down the trail. >> all right. gloria borger, thanks so much. up next, development on the missing drone that iran claims it shot down.

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including a person in a parking lot on the virginia tech campus. and also, a police officer who was making a routine traffic stop on the campus. this student told our affiliate how she tried to save the police officer's life. >> well, coming out of the gym, i was to the sidewalk to go home to my dorm. and i saw the police car sitting there. the unmarked one. and i thought he was responding to a call here because i heard a bunch of sirens coming in the distance. so i kept toward his car thinking i'll get around it before the police get here. then the police pulled up. and they opened his car door. when they opened it, he just fell out toward the ground. and then they immediately started reviving him. and then he took off with some sort of automatic weapons, i guess. and started running the opposite

direction after the gunman. and then i've been standing here since then. the officer didn't make it because they covered him with sheets. >> clearly that student is still visibly shaken after what she witnessed. she witnessed other officers that were trying to revive and save the life of the police officer who was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop there at virginia tech campus. meantime, live pictures thanks to our affiliate wdbj them tip to look for the suspected gunman. the campus remains on lockdown. this taking place on what was to be the first day of final exam there on campus. so again work the people killed on the virginia tech campus today. one police officer and the other person were still awaiting some identity. meantime this also just in. the u.s. confirmed a drone shown on iranian tv is an american

aircraft. the pictures show what looks like an intact drone on a pedestal with uniformed people looking over it. the u.s. has said the aircraft crashed but iran claims its forces shot it down last week. the u.s. officials add they have no reason to believe the video of the drone is fake or fraudulent. blu also say it would be very hard to fake such a display. on the case right now, the maintenance man accused of beating, raping and stabbing a 7-year-old girl and then dumping her body in a trash compactor. well, that person has just gone to court for the first time now. 20-year-old ryan brunn wore a bullet-proof vest for his first appearance before a judge. sunny hostin is on the case. so sunny, what are the charges being imposed on him? >> he was arrested on suspicion of murder and false statements to authorities. so certainly, he is the only suspect in this case.

and police believe that they have the right man responsible for the murder of the little 7-year-old. >> he is wearing a bullet-proof vest. what's the reason why? >> well, you know, there's been such public outrage in this case. i think that authorities are concerned for his safety. we do see these bullet type, bullet-proof vests used in court. it is not the norm but it isn't unusual either. >> so the victim's mother is calling for the death penalty if brunn is convicted. how will prosecutors make that decision? >> well, they'll look at the facts of this case. they need to determine whether or not this crime was unusually heinous, atrocious and cruel. what we know so far is that this little girl was sexually assaulted. she was asphyxiated, she was stabbed, she had blunt trauma to her head. only 7 years old. so certainly, it would qualify factually under sort of the

rubric of punishment and heinous, cruel and atrocious, but the investigation continues. the district attorney in blue ridge gary moss has indicated that he has not yet decided to seek the death penalty but they are considering it. >> the little girl's name, jorelys rivera. her mother was also in court trying to win back the custody of two of her other children. ultimately, how is it that she was able to win her children back? what was the argument? >> well, the issue has been what is in the best interests of her children. and because jorelys was taken without being supervised from this playground, authorities were concerned for her other children. they said that they lacked supervision. she argued that there was a teenager who was supposed to be watching the little 7-year-old when she was outside playing. and she did win her day in court today. so the two children are back with her now. >> and then there is a possible break in the case of that florida mom who disappeared after being on television on the

people's court. squaring off with her exfiance. what more do we know about any potential breaks in that case? >> that's right. this is a significant discovery. they did find her iphone 4. we don't know the location where it was found. we don't know exactly what is on the phone but we do know that the serial number indicates that this did belong to the missing mom. this is an important discovery because we know that we live with our phones. so it is undergoing forensic testing right now but it will give prosecutors and investigators the information that could lead to another break in this case. internet searches, her, the phone calls that she could have made. the location where she could have been taken. so certainly, this is a really important break in this case. she has been missing for about three weeks. and as we know, her fiance is still the focus and the primary suspect in this investigation. >> no indication of where that

phone was found and it's proximity to say, a last place that witnesses thought they saw her or even the proximity to her home? >> they aren't releasing that information, of course, because it is still an ongoing investigation. we know they have the phone and that they are conducting forensic testing on the phone. and it is important to note that the phone we're being told is in very good condition. so likely that they'll get a lot of information from it. >> all right. sunny hostin, thanks. so much for being on the case. now a family that is focused on recycling. but the end result is not what you think. >> reporter: old can be new again. that's what they are doing one shoe at a time. >> with our shoes, they are primarily one material. you can recycle them. >> reporter: the shoes are made from a patented blend of plastics called micro blast.

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generals, republican and democrat from across the country have said, this is somebody who can do the job with integrity, who has a tradition of being a bipartisan individual who looks out for the public interest and is ready to go. >> richard cordray was nominated in july of he is a form he ohio attorney general and a former ohio treasurer. he also served as a supreme court clerk under justice anthony kennedy. and joining us now from capitol hill, senate republican orrin hatch from utah. you wrote today, senator, in the national review that you have no problem with richard cordray. yet you voted against him. why? >> well, that's right. none of us have a problem with richard cordray. at least to my knowledge. the reason we voted against him was that we suggested to the president is that this so-called consumer agency has abject power over credit in this country. the abject power without any

responsibility. any transparency. any accountability. and what we want to do is correct that by having a board of directors to which this person has to report. have to report to the appropriations process in congress. have to report to other processes that literally, all other agencies have to. we cannot give a total czar that even the president can't suggest things to or can't control, running this agency and determining the credit worthiness, or the credit situation for people all over the country. this is the worst dog gone piece of legislation i've seen since i've been here. it is even worse than obamacare. >> would you like to see some sort of board of directors. where does that suggestion go there? >> well, we're letting the president know, we'll be happy to vote for mr. cordray if he would come out and amend this stupid bill and allow the taxpayers of america some rights that aren't given here. you're going to give a total

czar total power, not even reportable to the president. not reportable to the appropriations processes and congress, not reportable to congress. total power over the credit of people throughout the country. that is not what our country is about. we've never done that before. and yet that's how broadly this bill is. it is killing small banks. it is killing financial institutions all across this country. it is making incapable of giving loans to small businesses and other businesses to create jobs. it is one of the worst bills i've ever seen in my 35 years in the united states senate. the president said shortly after the defeat of this nomination, that he said, you can, quote, we are not giving up. is it your concern that he may use a recess appointment? >> well, he's been known to do that. we'll try to stop that. >> how would you stop that? >> why don't we get a president who is willing to work with congress? what we're asking for is not unusual. it is certainly not flagrant. it is certainly not excessive.

it is having a board of directors that supervises this person so that this person is not an almighty god in bureaucratic dress. frankly, that's not a bad request. we want some transparency. we want some accountability to the congress. we want accountability to the appropriations process. that's why we have a congress. that's why we have an >> all right, senator -- >> and the president, he's oblivious to this. >> let me just stop you there. listen to what the president had to say and what his assessment is about this defeat. zpl we have a congress right now, republicans in congress right now. who seem to have entirely forgotten how we got into this mess. and part of the reason was because we did not empower our regulators to make sure that they were ensuring fair play. >> so, what's your response to

this and to people, americans who say this is yet another example of congress, the white house, not getting a long and yet one more thing that's not getting done? >> well, the president knows he can beat up on congress and the people will like that, so that's what he's doing. instead of working with congress so people will know they're not going to be regulated into the ground by a single individual with all mighty power and a half billion dollar a year budget? all he's got to do is say look, i'll work with you. let's get some of these constraints put into law and i think he'd have an easy time. he doesn't work with congress. he's either out of the country r or doesn't weigh in. he doesn't pull people down like he should. he hasn't been a leader that we need. >> so, it's not -- >> frankly -- >> you don't disagree that there needs to be some regulation.

you don't like the method. >> i don't disagree that regulations sometimes are very important. this administration has been the most overregulatory administration in history and we're just suffering the problems because of it. small business can't grow because they're so overregulated. the banks are scared to death. this is wrong and this president ought to know it and ought to work with us rather than just always blaming congress when he hasn't provided the leadership we need. >> and senator hatch, less than a year from now, we're talking about the presidential election. the republican field of candidates. who are you backing? >> well, i believe there's only l one person who has a chance of winning on the republican side and he's the best nominee there and the only one with extensive private sector experience of great success and extensive public sector success and that's mitt romney. i endorsed romney. i know every one of those

republicans. i like every one of them. they're good people. but i don't think any of the others have that type of broad experience that can help our country as this miserable time we're in right now when we clearly don't have the leadership either in congress or in the presidency to be able to pull our county out of the mess it's in. romney can. >> thanks for your time. up next, she is currently secretary of state, but hillary clinton's 2008 campaign is asking supporters to send money. why? plus, the white house holding its holiday party last night and the theme was quite interesting. joe johns was there and he's quot the scoop. he's going to share, next.

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time now for your political pop. hillary clinton's camp is still trying to get rid of campaign gear from 2008. they're selling it at kind of close out prices. some items are even sign ed by president clinton himself. joe johns joins me now from washington. so, joe, what's with this blue aisle special or the blue light special on hillary gear? >> how many politicians can get away with this? three years after the campaign? >> i didn't know they could. >> that's pretty incredible. sale on hillary clinton's campaign gear from three years ago. the historic race for president came down to her and barack obama, we know who won. still, there are people who wish they would have gotten some of

the gear. as well as dvds of the 2008 speech, which apparently, are being signed by bill clinton and those go for $250 each. you've got to really want that, right? not just to get her name out there. she has something like $270,000 in debt to retire from the campaign and former candidates have been known to resort to drastic means to try to pay down that debt. >> it's mostly about paying down down. it has little if nothing to do with her eyeballing another run of some sort sm. >> i wouldn't go that far because you and i know that just about anything anybody does in washington, d.c., if it's a politician -- >> there's always a dot dot dot.

meantime, tis the season. holiday parties. that includes that of the white house. you were there. how did it strike you? how do you compare it to a previous holiday parties of the white house past? >> well, honestly, the first thing i can say is the weather is always bad. it's december. >> but you're inside. i'm not feeling sorry for you. >> i'm just saying. the rain was unbelievable. okay. once you get inside, the most impressive thing was the christmas tree with the u.s. military service medals. heard about this. wondered how they were going to pull it off. the tree looked incredible. you know what happens with these things. a lot of food, drinks, everybody gets to shake hands with the president and first lady. not a sit down dinner. heavy appetizers. >> they don't want you getting too comfortable. >> and you don't want to act bad

because you'll hear about it and there's all these people writing things down. bo the dog was everywhere. from political pop i know this. not necessarily from seeing him all over the place because i didn't go to all the rooms. it was kind of -- the weather was the -- tight security. >> why are you harpi ining on t weather? had your ga loshs, rain jacket. there was a cover before you actually entered the place. >> and you had to show your i.d. two times because the salahis. >> you've got to step up security as a result. >> yeah, i know. didn't frisk me though. that was good. >> i'm sure because you were on your best behavior, you'll get another invite for the next christmas party. >> we'll see. this is the first time during the obamas that i got to go, so i've been good. >> very good. thanks so much, joe. it was nice to see that bo is everywhere