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really had in mind. >> reporter: who wouldn't need a diaper? jeannie moos, cnn. ♪ somebody left the gate open >> reporter: -- new york. ♪ >> amazing. and thank you, jeannie for doing that. thanks very much for joining us. i'm wolf blitzer in the "situation room." the news continues next on cnn. good evening, everyone, i'm john king. we're live tonight from bedford, new hampshire, just five days from now, this state holds the leadoff presidential primary. mitt romney is far away front runner here. we'll take you inside his voter by voter effort to protect that big lead. jon huntsman not only skipped iowa, he showered insults on the state. he joins us -- plus a border security follow-up. how a teenager who was a u.s. citizen and doesn't speak spanish mistakenly is deported
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to south america. tonight mitt romney's feeling so confident about his chances here in new hampshire, he isn't even here. romney started a quick trip to south carolina this afternoon leaving his rivals to snipe at each other. newt gingrich belittled rick santorum's record going all the way back to when they served together in the house, back in the 1990s. gingrich then was speaker. >> if you think of us as partners, he would clearly in the historical experience would have been the junior partner. he's not a bad person, i want to be clear about this. >> well, senator santorum took offense at being labeled a junior partner. >> i was no junior partner in that. newt was not involved in that
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revolution when it came to the corruption and scandal. he sat on the sidelines. >> cnn's jim acosta keeping up with the increasingly pointed back and forth. romney's in the lead here. i assume if gingrich and santorum are going after each other, they think they've got to fight for second or third? >> reporter: i think that's right, john. rick santorum is not campaigning in relative obscurity anymore as he was in iowa right up until those days before the iowa caucuses. he is one of the big targets in this campaign and was feeling it today. newt gingrich went after him as you mentioned there calling him a junior partner in the republican revolution back in the 1990s. and i caught up with senator santorum and asked him about that. and that's the clip you just played there. and santorum had a sharp response. he said, look, if you go back to the house banking scandal before newt gingrich was the speaker of the house, i rick santorum, was part of the gang of seven that brought that to light. and santorum was saying i was part of that republican
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revolution before you were, newt. and it went back and forth all day long. gingrich then went back to santorum and said, hey, you don't have the capacity to mount a national campaign, and santorum said to me, i asked him about that, he said, wait a minute, i just raised $1 million in one day, what do you mean i can't run a national campaign. i asked him, though, is that enough money to continue the way you're going right now and trying to catch up with mitt romney? and he said there's a long way to go in this campaign, john, he's only getting started. >> only getting started. any evidence at all that there's a big enough bounce for rick santorum in the polling here in new hampshire? >> reporter: there is a poll that came out in the last couple of days from suffolk, university, it is one of those polls, though, john, that started before the caucuses and ended after the caucuses, so it's difficult to gauge. santorum does have a little bit of bounce out of that momentum. he was starting to build in iowa. it's not clear yet whether or not that's going to take hold in this state. but it's interesting to watch
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santorum out on the campaign trail. we were with him just a couple of hours ago in concord, and he was at a college republican conference. and he got into it on the issue of gay marriage and was actually booed as he left the podium at the end of the conference and goes to show you that santorum is not campaigning without the press towing behind him. he definitely has people watching him right now, not only the press, but conservative activists in this state who want to make sure and kick the tires and make sure he's the real deal and can be the real alternative to mitt romney, john. >> jim acosta, thank you. let's take a closer look at that rocky day for rick santorum here in new hampshire. take a look right here at what happened this afternoon. he's in concord, santorum defending his opposition to same sex marriage. >> everybody has a right to be happy. so if you're not happy unless you're married to five other people, is that okay? whoa, whoa, whoa -- i'm asking her. so there is some objective standard?
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>> -- for two men to have the same rights as men and women. >> what about three men? >> not talking about that. >> stop. if she reflects the values marriage can be for anybody or any group of people. as many as is necessary, any two people or any three or four, marriage really means whatever you want it to mean. for those of you who say, well, i want to keep marriage as what i believe marriage is. in fact, what marriage has always been, which is the union of a man and a woman. why? because i believe we are made that way. >> santorum ended up getting booed off the stage as jim acosta noted with college students. let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger. he was asked a question, i want to be clear, he did not bring that issue up. but it is a reminder of how campaigns have changed. when you go to an event like
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this, new hampshire retail politics there's always groups asking questions, but increasingly, you find people from the other campaigns and people from democratic organizations from gay and lesbian interest groups and alike deliberately trying to provoke the candidates. >> you know, absolutely. when you think about new hampshire, though, john, you think of voters who may be conservative, but they're much more attuned to the fiscal issues than the social issues. but there were clearly people in this audience who wanted to push those buttons with rick santorum because that's where the controversy lies for him. and they want to remind people that he's very conservative on these social issues. that he opposes gay marriage, he opposes things like stem cell research and on and on. when you get to that top tier, the scrutiny becomes tougher and people start going after you, and i think that's what we saw today. >> and when you watch as we talked with jim, the subplot, romney's obviously in the lead and there's no doubt he'll have
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the kick me sign on him, but you have a struggle. ron paul polls second at 18%. another state where he has hard support. for gingrich and santorum. santorum with the tie in iowa or second place in iowa, he can move on. he can say at least i have one good performance. what's the new hampshire challenge? >> well, i think the challenge for the others in new hampshire is to get mitt romney out of the stratosphere. kind of figure they're not going to win, but they have to bring him back down to earth. and that's what they're really trying to do. so they can go on to south carolina and say, you know what? mitt romney is the weakest front-runner we have ever had, which is what newt gingrich said today. they want to weaken him, they want to take him out of the 40% range and get him back to where he's always been, which has been in the 20% range. if mitt romney doesn't do as well as he's now polling, they can say you know what? we're moving on to south carolina and he is a vulnerable front-runner.
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and let me add one other thing, that i learned from the santorum campaign today that they're going to make a very large ad by in south carolina. they say it shows that the money is now coming in and that they will be ready to take on mitt romney in south carolina because they believe they have a really good shot at that state where the moral values issues are very dominant. >> five days from new hampshire, then the campaign goes on to south carolina. >> got to plan ahead. >> thanks for your help tonight. you do have to plan ahead. and as gloria noted, mitt romney's way ahead. one of the questions is, can he protect that lead with five days? let's take a moment now, inside the romney campaign strategy. we went by the headquarters today. many volunteers at the campaign, and he has the biggest organization, the deepest organization here. you see the volunteers on the phone. they're not calling as you often see saying i'm calling mitt romney, do you support our guy?
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they're going through a republican voter list, calling up almost as if they're pollster, checking each of these voters have been asked before, who are you going to vote for? the romney campaign knows who their voters are. listen here has they're going back to double check to make sure they're not losing anybody. >> and if the primary were held today, which of the candidates would you most likely support? and i can read through the list if you need it. oh, great. and thinking about your support on that candidate on a scale of one to five. with one meaning certainly you will vote and five meaning you are open to other candidates or could change your mind. how committed are you to your first choice? >> we hope you can make it and give us a call. >> excellent. >> that's what you call working your lists or santa might say checking it twice at the romney campaign. nice to get a glimpse inside the campaign. ron paul finished a strong third in iowa. he's flying into new hampshire tomorrow afternoon for a rally at the nassau airport.
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paul's campaign has raised $13 million in the past three months. shifting now to other news now, president obama gave republicans a new target for likely campaign attacks at the pentagon, the president unveiling plans to cut military spending and change the country's overall defense posture. no longer will the united states be prepared to fight two ground wars at the same time. >> our military will be leaner, but the world must know the united states is going to maintain our military superiority with armed forces that are agile, flexible, and ready for the full range of contingencies and threats. >> let's check in live with chris lawrence. chris, is the defense secretary and the military brass, are they onboard with this? >> seems so publicly, john. and you know you could make the argument that the military could never fight two ground wars. the army had to add 90,000 troops to get through iraq and afghanistan. i spoke with an official who
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said, if you think the greatest danger is right around the corner, you keep the number of troops high. but the military feels the greatest danger may come down the road. they're cutting about 47,000 marines and soldiers. and i'm told by one official, that number will probably grow even higher. and admitted these were tough choices ahead. >> there's no question. there is no question that we have to make some tradeoffs. and that we will be taking as a result of that some level of additional but acceptable risk. >> now, critics say the new plan will worry u.s. allies and embolden u.s. enemies. one official said it's like going from having a comprehensive health care plan to actually just buying insurance for the diseases you think you'll have in the future. john?
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>> interesting way to put it. chris lawrence, a big debate in washington certain to play out on the campaign trail. ahead, tonight's truth lets you decide if rick santorum insulted african-americans while discussing welfare and poverty. and in just minutes, jon huntsman says iowa picks corn and new hampshire picks presidents. we'll ask the candidate what happens if new hampshire picks someone else. in louisiana. they came to see us in florida... nice try, they came to hang out with us in alabama... once folks heard mississippi had the welcome sign out, they couldn't wait to get here. this year was great but next year's gonna be even better. and anyone who knows the gulf knows that winter is primetime fun time. the sun's out and the water's beautiful. you can go deep sea fishing for amberjack, grouper and mackerel. our golf courses are open. our bed and breakfast have special rates. and migrating waterfowl from all over make this a bird watcher's paradise. so if you missed it earlier this year, come on down. if you've already been here come on back...
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state, trust mitt romney that hñ changes his positions and the conservatives can't oust p[ñ0q. that probably 50% of this state is undecided. there's a lot of opportunity to run for growth. as we saw in iowa, the establishment -- 75% of those basically said that's not where we're going. we want an alternative. i think the same is true in this state as it is throughout the country. >> you know how this works, he did get a win. winning ugly beats losing. he wins in iowa, he's expected to win here. you don't think you can beat him, do you? >> we're going to do well. we're going to exceed expectations. >> if he wins the first two, what will the market be heading
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to south carolina where you have five or six staffers? >> it's going to be wide open. as i say, 75% of those in iowa, which is representative of republicans across the board didn't want to take the establishment recommended candidate. and that says something about the marketplace. i think this race goes on a very long time because of the unsettled nature of where the republican party is right now. >> is it to you a question of trust or is there pick one issue where you have such a sharp contrast with governor romney you would say to republicans and independents in this state, here's your reason right here. >> what is your core? you run for the senate as a liberal, you run for governor as a moderate, you run for president as a conservative. people want to know who you were yesterday and what you're going to be tomorrow. and they want to know there's going to be an element of consistency with that. i think the whole issue of trust is going to be a huge one in this election cycle. because we have a trust deficit in this country just like an economic deficit. people no longer trust their institutions of power. they no longer trust their elected officials, and i say it's going to weigh very, very
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heavily in the minds of the voters. >> the incumbent president of the united states went to the pentagon today and announced a new defense strategy. and we've had this fight two wars strategy. cold war basically, if we had a war with russia, we'd be ready for something else. the president says it's time to adjust that strategy be leaner, meaner, and save money. a lot of conservatives say, no, don't touch the pentagon. is the president right here? is he going too far? >> well, you've got to find greater efficiencies in the defense budget, no question about that. and we have to be prepared first and foremost to have a defense budget that is based on a strategy, and that strategy must be protecting the american people. realizing full well we're not likely to fight a large land war. but we do have this challenge called terror for as far as the eye can see in the 21st century. but that's all got to be driven by what i think could be our most important foreign policy priority right now, and that's economics. we've got to drive the debate by
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economics, trade, investment, and engagement, and this president has been nowhere to be found on international trade issues. >> i was in iowa last week, and you were here saying iowans pick corn, new hampshire picks presidents. they didn't like that so much in iowa. what if new hampshire picks someone else? >> you have to take the number one slot. i think there will be several tickets out of new hampshire. you have to have one of those tickets. >> if you were the republican nominee, iowa will be a swing state next november, what would jon huntsman say the day he landed after the convention in tampa and said hello, iowa, sorry? >> no, we love you, and we're going to improve your export markets abroad and that ought to make every agro business proud of a president. >> thank you. >> it's a pleasure to be with you as always. >> good luck. >> thank you. rick santorum's under fire tonight because he voted for
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>> yeah, wow. wow, wow, wow. all right, kate, we'll see you in a few minutes. thanks. >> all right. how a texas teenager ended up being deported to colombia even though she's a u.s. citizen. one important clue, she lied about her name. also, the truth about rick santorum said about welfare and african-americans. they want a big hat... ask ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable.
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about rick santorum's comments, inflammatory words about african-americans. we've also been digging into his record for supporting the project. and steve jobs as you've never seen him before. apple says you shouldn't see him like this. tonight, authorities from texas to washington are trying to figure out who made a whopper of a mistake. somehow a girl who is a u.s. citizen, doesn't speak a word of spanish was deported to south america because she gave authorities a fake name. the girl's mother who has been trying to find her for over a year is among those demanding answers. >> i mean, i just -- there has to be adults involved. no 14-year-old can change their name and get to colombia. on their own. >> cnn's ed lavandera has been
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looking into this case. walk us through how this happened. >> reporter: well, john, this is vastly troubling and very frightening for the family of now 15-year-old turner. all of this starts back in november of 2010, john. we're told by family members she runs away from home, family members start trying to figure out where she might be. then we cut to april of last year. she is arrested for shoplifting in the mall in houston, but instead of giving authorities her real name, she tells them she is 21-year-old tika cortez, and that's where this incredible process begins. she goes to the local sentencing process, pleads guilty to the theft charge, spends at least four days in jail and then because she's told authorities she is colombian, she was held over by immigrations and customs enforcement, excuse me, i.c.e., and they begin deportation proceedings. she doesn't have any identification with them, it's not exactly clear why they took her at just face value and that sort of thing, but they say --
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i.c.e. officials say she's fooled a lot of people and lied outright not only on the local level but the federal level and had to convince colombian authorities that she was colombian, as well. she received the proper paperwork to get into colombia and was then deported. family members say they've been following her throughout various facebook and twitter postings and what they say is very discouraging and frightening situation. we now understand that this young girl is in the custody of the colombian government and being held in these juvenile services that care for children in dangerous situations. but why it's been taking so long. we're told that the foreign ministry in colombia is trying to get her back to the united states, but this has been going on for more than a month. it's not exactly clear why it's taking so long to get her back, john. >> ed, is the colombian government helping in that effort or resisting? >> well, that's what is kind of
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difficult to tell at this point. the public -- and we've reached out to the consulate in houston where presumably they have sent officials over to speak with turner, but last year -- and we're told by our colleagues down in colombia that the foreign ministry is working on getting that -- on getting her back. but this has been a very slow process which leaves many people here in the united states very confused as to why this is taking so long. she was essentially given colombian citizenship. that might be the revocation of all that might be slowing this down. it's been difficult to get answers. we've been waiting for most of the day for statements from the ministry and haven't received those statements as of yet. >> ed lavandera, fascinating story. we'll stay on top of it. thank you. one of the criticisms of rick santorum. he comes out of iowa with a big bounce. coming in just eight votes behind mitt romney. now some of his conservative critics, his rivals, and tea
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party activists say he's no consistent conservative like he promises on the trail. one of the points of evidence, the earmarks. senator santorum received for his state of pennsylvania when he was in congress. among his new critics, a man who was not his friend when they served in the united states senate, john mccain. >> he and i had very strong differences on earmarking and pork barrel spending. i believe that earmarking is a gateway drug to corruption. and senator santorum supported it and engaged in it as much as he possibly could. i strongly disagreed with it, and that was a fundamental difference we had in the senate. but i still respect him. >> our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is looking into the santorum record when it comes to earmarks. and some members of congress are legendary, put senator santorum into context. >> he's up there. but the problem that we have is he was defeated, john, from the senate in 2006. that was before senators and members of the mouse were
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required to disclose exactly what earmarks they had. now rick perry, one of his chief opponents is running an ad saying that he got about $1 billion in earmarks. i talked to somebody from the nonpartisan taxpayers for common sense today they track this actually thinks it could be more than that. but they're not entirely sure. but what you can look at is what rick santorum said himself. if you do a simple search, you'd see many, many press releases. he sent back home to pennsylvania touting all of the money he got sent home. for example, about $1 million, he said in medical research to improve treatment of soldiers wounded in combat. obviously that's something that is not controversial, but maybe what is that he directed it to the university of pittsburgh medical center. why there? why not some place, anywhere else in the country? that is one of the questions about earmarks, why many people say that they were done away with. he also, of course, talked to him about this last night, john,
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voted for the variance on bridge to nowhere. he didn't have to vote for that. he could've voted to send that money elsewhere. but he was somebody that very much thought that bringing home the bacon was a reelection, so he was worried about crossing the man who put that in. he was worried he wouldn't get his own earmarks down the road for pennsylvania. >> reporter: this is a generational question, if you will, this used to be common practice in the congress. you have some of the new members and especially the tea party members who say no way, you have john mccain saying it's a gateway to corruption. santorum was here last night, he said, sure i did it, so what? >> the idea that earmarks are the problem in washington, d.c. is just ridiculous. the problem are the entitlement programs and this desire to spend more money. >> he's right, dana, on the size of the money. the earmarks are a small slice of the pie. >> it has become very symbolic.
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they point to the fact that when people take earmarks, it's just an example of people who have been in washington too long who are drunk with power and want to stay in washington by making clearer through their constituents they can bring the money that they don't necessarily need to get for projects they don't necessarily need. but just to underscore this point and this is i'm sure what you were making, john, many, many people did it. it was very -- done across the board from the senate republican leader on down. it was -- people like john mccain who didn't get earmarks, they were very much in the minority. rick santorum was not alone and members of congress bringing home the bacon. >> dana bash, thanks. new hampshire republicans get their say in the presidential primary in just five days. mitt romney so confident about his chances in new hampshire, he spent the day in south carolina. romney's political positions have shifted dramatically. the new issue of "time" has the
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same photo with a different caption. "so you like me now?" joining me now is joe klein and john sununu. a little bit of snow, no snow in iowa, therest a few flakes falling here in new hampshire. you know what's happening here in five days. your guy, mitt romney is at 41%. now everyone -- they think they probably can't beat him so let's take him down, show them he's weak. gingrich says why would anybody vote for a timid massachusetts moderate? i've known you for a long time you're not timid and you're not a moderate, is mitt romney? >> mitt was here this morning, we had a couple of events here this morning, he went to south carolina just for the afternoon and evening, he'll be back tomorrow. look, mitt romney is a conservative republican. he served as a conservative republican governor in massachusetts. he cut spending, he cut taxes, he stood for life when they tried to change the definition
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of life. he fought the gay marriage and kept massachusetts out of the greenhouse compact, which is basically a gingrich-type cap and trade. the fact is he as governor was conservative. the last time we paid attention to a label like the one you used is we bought a bill of goods of somebody being a georgia conservative, we ended up with jimmy carter. >> he knows how to land one when he wants to land one. >> that's what's known in the trade as a sound bite. listen, i feel like the ancient mariner here. >> you are the ancient mariner here. >> i'm in favor of earmarks. what's wrong with bringing home the bacon? that's what politics is. and i'm in favor of moderation. what's wrong with that? that's how things get done. mitt romney was in favor of a lot of the same things that newt gingrich was in favor of in the early '90s when the republicans were coming up with creative domestic policy ideas like the
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individual mandate, like cap and trade, which george h.w. bush initiated -- >> it's not the problem, it's what you apply the cap and trade to. >> we could get into -- but the fact is mitt romney was in favor of those things, he governed as a moderate and governed well and he's moved to the right since. >> i want to read you some words from this guy right here. he's an excellent writer and i want to read you this. romney is still the overwhelming favorite for the republican nomination. he has the scenario he wanted. the two greatest threats to his candidacy newt gingrich and rick perry were trounsed in iowa. he remains an unloved front-runner who may not inspire sufficient number of republicans to come out to vote. he got almost exactly the same number of votes in iowa four years ago and same, 25% here, he owns a vacation home, he's from massachusetts, so he's supposed to do well. why is it when you travel the country, people go, romney, yeah, okay?
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>> the point is that you're going to a primary process. even when george bush won in new hampshire in '88, he only got 39% of the vote. you've got to remember the reality of the numbers. what we're talking about in iowa is the governor last time was basically running against one or two people. this time he was running against six others. so you've got to put the numbers in context. mitt romney has got a strategy that's not going to end in one week or two weeks. it's a strategy that takes him all the way through to pick up the 1,150 delegates he needs. >> the governor says it won't end in one week or two weeks, yet winning ugly beats losing. if he wins here and convincingly, it's hard to stop him. speaker gingrich makes the case -- >> depends what happens down south. this looks a little bit like the 1976 race where ronald reagan started off weak and came back in north carolina and tennessee and texas and places like that. one of these other guys, one of
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these so-called true conservatives is hoping to be "the one." and what romney has to do from here on out is get 50% of the delegates, which is going -- which with proportional voting this time is harder than it would have been in the past. i do believe, governor, if romney can see this through, just standing you know as an observer, that he would be by far the strongest candidate against obama. >> when you look down the road in this scenario, when you look at is it perry, he's going to camp out and wait in south carolina. who of them or is it governor huntsman. who of the other candidates do you view as the potential long-term threat? >> i'm very partial to governors. i think governors in a campaign like this even though they might get beaten down occasionally can project executive strength and so i think -- >> perry or huntsman as a bigger threat? >> huntsman is running in the wrong primary. governor perry still has a chance to come back.
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and we take nobody for granted. i think the romney campaign has done one thing right and they take every challenger in there seriously and take them one at a time. >> appreciate your insights today. five days to go to new hampshire. and the truth about rick santorum's remarks that have so angered african-americans and depending on where you were born, you probably grew up with a kodak camera. today, kodak might be near the end of the line. details ahead. [ male announcer ] for sore muscles use new bengay cold therapy, it's pro-cool technology releases armies of snowmen masseuse who cuddle up with your soreness and give out polar bear hugs.
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first the national urban league took after rick santorum, and now the naacp. saying he was offensive in an iowa speech last week in which he singled out black people while saying the best way to fight poverty is to help people find jobs not give them taxpayers' money. right here on this program last night, senator santorum suggested it never happened. >> if i looked at the video and i don't -- in fact, i'm pretty confident i didn't say black. i think i started to say a word and sort of mumbled it and changed my thought. but i don't -- i don't recall saying black. >> tonight's truth puts senator santorum's memory to the test and lets you make the call. sunday, sioux city, iowa. listen. >> i don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money, i want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn
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their money. >> here's a little more from our conversation with santorum last night. >> i've looked at it several times, i was starting to say one word and i sort of came up with a different word and moved on and it -- and it sounded like black -- >> it sure did. it sure did. let's listen one more time. >> i don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them someone else's money. >> did he say black? it sure sounded like it. to be fair, it is a bit muddled when you listen closely but saying blah people makes no sense. was he tongue-tied? realize he was about to say black people and realized it would cause a stir and decide to not finish the word? we can't read minds, but the urban league thinks his intent was clear. they accuse him of lazy and
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racial stereotyping. there the numbers don't lie, the face of poverty in america is overwhelmingly white. just 13% of those below the poverty line are african-americans and 23% of food stamp recipients are black. regardless of whether he said black or blah, senator santorum insists his career proves the critics wrong. >> match my record up, go look at it, and look at what was probably just a tongue-tied moment as opposed to something that was deliberate. >> that record is getting more scrutiny now because of santorum's success in iowa. and one statement at one event is by no means a fair test of a candidate's views on race. but truth is, senator santorum can't escape and shouldn't shrug off what he said. he's running to be president of all americans and is accountable for everything he says. and one of santorum's critics is also a man the senator says can
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attest to his long standing work in the african-american community. marc morial is the president of the national urban league. straight up front, rick santorum and race. rick santorum and race, he says you've known him for a long time when you were mayor of new orleans at the urban league. he says he's on your side, he's a champion for equal rights for everybody. is he? >> what's important here is what rick santorum said on sunday, i believe it was in iowa that shocked and surprised me. and because he and i have had a relationship of respect, even though we don't agree on issues, i was really shocked at what he said. and what he said was not only insensitive, it was pandering i think to the worst interest in the american people and divisive. he's auditioning to be the leader of the nation. the leader of the nation has to represent and respect all people. and i think what he did was
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deliberate. i think it was divisive, and i wish what senator santorum had said was, i said it, i didn't mean it, i regret it, and moved on. i think what he's done is he's compounded the criticism by sort of, you know, creating some confusion about whether he said it or not. you heard it, i heard it. i was shocked, surprised, he should be ashamed i was shocked. surprised. he should be ashamed. and it is just something we've got to speak out against because the facts are simply other wise in terms of who makes up those americans who need social safety net programs. the fact is, that all-americans benefit. the fact is, we are one nation. >> you say you believe it was deliberate. i want to read from the reverend jesse jackson. he is said santorum's comments are not accidental. they are targeting imgrn and now blacks. he is appealing to the fear vote to take us backward, not the hope vote to take us forward. this is a tough one here. you are a politician, mayor of new orleans, in public life, i'm
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on live television all the time. sometimes have you a slip of the tongue. but you say, reverend jackson saying, he is doing this on purpose, essentially a wedge issue to get votes. is that what you believe? >> i think you've got to take his words for what they meant and take the context and the audience and timing. it was just before the primary, he obviously was appealing to the most conservative votes. in the iowa caucuses. and i do believe that we have to speak out in this 2012 election cycle of those rhetorical flourishes, that would divide the nation. and i think the senator was trying to make a point. i think he made it by utilizing an inappropriate and offensive racial reference. i think he should dis's vow it. but i also think john that those running against him should also disevow those comments as having no place in the discourse around whole be the republican nominee
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for president. i would lick it see that. i would like to see those of you the journalistic community to disevow the comments of senator santorum. i hope he will say wib said it, that reregrets it, move on and let's debate the purpose of the if you tour of the nation. >> mark, appreciate your insights tonight. we will stay on top of this issue as it goes forward. take care, mark. er inburnett out front, you are previewing mitt romney in south carolina tonight. >> reporter: that's right. we are following him down in south carolina. he was down with john mccain and nicky haley trying to make that fight. you know 45% of the population of south carolina evangelicals. we saw them going for rick santorum in iowa. but has it become a must-win state? now it doesn't seem that it
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would be okay. we are also going to be joined by mitt romney's top adviser and answer those questions and talk about what margin of victory the gov are in needs in new hampshire to really try to become the presumtive nominee as he has been trying to do. also, john, amy chew, i don't know if you know that name, but a lot of people do. she is the infamous tiger mom. she says being a tiger mom was so successful that her daughter in college now, they don't have to ask her where she is at night. they don't have to ask her what she is majoring in. that means that tiger parenting worked really darn well. so back to you. >> maybe i will have her spend a little time with my 18-year-old son and see how that goes. >> whip him into shape. >> whip him into shape, exactly right. ahead here, new reports says you are about to get big discounts on popular electronics this year. we will have the details. plus a big gop debate moderated by larry king.
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telegraph, reports that apple sent a notice to stop the company. and finally, finally everyone, good news for cash-strapped consumers. a new report says the gadgets we all love probably won't see an increase in cost. deal news.com tells cnn that smart phones, gps devices, tablets, notebook computers and all those, and ereaders we all love, are all likely to see lower prices in 2012. why? customers aren't willing it pay the high prices they once did for electronics. so good out and bye, b buy, buy buy, john. >> stay right here. you have checked the debates this campaign season, right? >> of course. >> okay. this is usually, every night in the program we dot moment you miss. tonight, it is a moment you might not want to miss. tomorrow, larry king will have a
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mock republican debate staged for yahoo! and comic website, funny or die. not only will larry be there, he know he is a great moderator, mike tyson, look at that. he will play herman cain. horatio stands, striking resemblance to newt gingrich. >> oh, i don't know. >> i don't know. you will be there? >> i will be there. i think this is fabulous. who would play you, john? who would you want to play the john king in the funny or die debate? >> you know, i'm not taking the bait there. >> come on. >> whatever i say, who would play kate bolduan? >> oh, some beautiful amazingly smart, you know, one of those actors. >> well, i think i would find one of my brothers just to keep him off the street. get tlem to do it for me. >> oh, good answer. >> all right, kate, see you tomorrow. well stay in
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