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charges on 19 murders and a few minutes later michelle obama talks about the needs of military veterans and makes a major announcement on their medical care. happy new year. first time we're seeing ich other in person. >> i know. it's been weeks now. good to see you. >> you, too. >> you must have had a little time off. >> a little bit. had to visit the fam. >> always good to check in. live from studio 7. i'm suzanne malveaux. want to get you up to speed for wednesday, january 11th. republican presidential candidates are descending on south carolina after romney's big win in new hampshire. they hold the primary just ten days away. romney and rivals all have campaign stops in the state today. next hour newt gingrich is holding a town hall meeting in spartanburg. here's a look at the results for the new hampshire primary. it was a convincing win for mitt romney. he took 40% of the vote. ron paul finished second with
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23%. jon huntsman got 17% to finish in third place. rick santorum finished with 10% ahead of newt gingrich with 9%. rick perry had 1%. well, it was a big win romney needed to shore up the front-runner status. now he's the first republican to win both iowa and new hampshire this morning on cnn, romney turned attention to beating the president. >> you've got almost 2 million people that lost their job under this president. you have income that's dropped to 10% over the last four years. you have 24 million people out of work or stopped looking for work. this is a failed presidency. plenty of other people want the chance to go up against president obama. i have a long way to go before i get the nomination, if i'm lucky enough to get it. i think we're best off focusing on the failures of this president. in my case i want to demonstrate that i have capacity to make
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america once again a great place for opportunity, for rising incomes, for job growth. i think mast what people want to hear. they want to understand how we're going to lead the country. that's what i'm going to be talking about. >> so two races, two wins. how does mitt romney really wrap up the nomination? we will talk to larry sabato later in the hour about what it will take for romney. >> my confidence is reborn. because of the people in new hampshire. because they just turn out at the town hall meetings. nobody forces them. nobody tells them they have to do it. they believe in a better tomorrow for the united states of america. sort of have to chuckle when they describe them as being dangerous.
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that's one thing they are telling the truth. because we are dangerous to the status quo in this country! >> all right. dangerous. ron paul says he's nibbling at mitt romney's heels. dana bash is joining us to talk about the silver medal. maybe that's a good thing here. you had a chance to talk to ron paul. one on one last night. what did he make of the fairly strong finish? >> well, you heard it. he feels he's leading a movement. and he really believes he's also in it for the long haul. no matter what happens. u i asked him about the fact that he was competing for the same republican nomination four years ago and he got less than 8% of the vote. i asked, what's different now?
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what do you think has changed? >> the people. the people's attitudes have changed, and my message got out, and the country is in worse shape. i've talked about financial problems in the country for 30 years, and they realize that some of the things i said came about, and also warning people about the foreign policy and the endless wars and how that affects our economy. so the people have come around to being concerned about the spending. i think that they look closely at the need to cut spending, and i was the only one offering cutting spending. so i think it's a very, very popular message. and i think the interest is going to continue to grow. >> reporter: and suzanne, he's right. the electorate has sort of moved towards him. he's not changed what he has said at all really for the past 30 years. and what was really interesting, and we saw this in iowa, but more so here. the 76-year-old candidate got such a huge win from young people. he got by far the biggest percentage of young voters here across the board. republicans, independents and even democrats or former
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democrats. >> it's interesting. i remember in 2008. you see the signs after he stepped out of the race. there's so much enthusiasm behind him. do we think it gets tougher going forward in south carolina. his organization in new hampshire is very good. his organization in iowa was very good. that's where he really stayed on the ground, had people staying here since 2008, when we were both here together. he has an event there already in about an hour. then he'll go home for a few days. last not a state that is extraordinarily expensive when it comes to television ads. that's a god chunk of change. whether or not that will help him, that's a big question. but he does have the momentum for the ver vent supporters to keep going as long as he wants.
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to get the things he's talked about like anti-government. somehow heard in the big way from the republican establishment. gl dana, thanks. we'll see if he remains dangerous for much longer. how much longer that will go. president obama is focusing on the furthermore one issue in the presidential race. of course, it's jobs. he's meeting with business leaders to talk about keeping jobs in the united states instead of outsourcing them overseas. the white house says the president will unveil a new tax proposal in the weeks ahead. he's expected to speak in the next hour around 12:15 eastern. so we'll keep an eye on the white house here. here's a rundown of other stories we are covering first. wi would a governor want to set 14 convicted murders free? that's right. we're going to hear from the families shocked by these
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pardons. and he had five days to reflect. now joran van der sloot has pleaded guilty to murdering a woman in his hotel room. then, another nuclear science in iran is killed. a motorcyclist stuck a bomb to his car. also the decisions behind the numbers. then later, new years means higher prices for a lot of things at the grocery store. thet for you. one more thing.... those pj's you like, i bought you five new pairs. love you. did you see the hockey game last night? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ driver ] what do i want? ♪ i want horsepower. cleaner horsepower.
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republican presidential candidates are headed south. newt gingrich is meeting and greeting with voters.
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right after mitt romney's win in the new hampshire primary. all of them campaigning in south carolina today. but they're leaving behind distinct impressions with the new hampshire folks. >> who did you vote for? >> romney. he's the clear choice. he did great things in massachusetts. he'll be a great president. >> i voted for newt gingrich. i heard him speak last night in hudson. i was tremendously impresed. >> rorn paul. >> why? >> our fiscal house is a mess. it's time we take our medicine, and dr. paul has the prescription. so -- >> all right. he's got the analogy down. we have another story here. kind of disturbing. these are pardons that have rocked the country. conservative haley barbour's idea of leaving the office was to set free 199 convicted
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criminals. those include 14 murders. others convicted of rape, armed robbery, drunk driving. numerous drug related offenses. almost all 199 received all complete unconditional pardons, essentially wiping their criminal records clean. now victims families have devastated. >> heft left laying on the floor in his mother's blood that day. >> i think the governor himself have to look me and if family in the eye and say we have to let this guy go. >> something this important doesn't need to be in the hands of one person. >> is governor barbour going to pardon us from the aches and pains and heart ache that we suffer? >> the only thing we can get is -- what the process is --
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>> traditions are not always good. this again has given mississippi a black eye. >> she was 20 years old when she died, and had her child laying in her arms when he shot her in her hand. and he's pardoned? >> all right, it's really a shocking story. he's in dallas. you listen, i mean, you listen to the people, those families. and the emotions they have. it's really gut renching. they're suffering from thinking that killers, people who killed their family are now free. help us understand the back story to all this. is anything that brings all the 199 criminals together and the governor? why would he choose this group of people? >> you know, if there is a common denominator throughout
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the long list, and this list of people pardoned with a conditional release, is eight pages long. if there is a common denominator, we haven't come across it yet. and we're going over many of the names. this is a long, long list of people. and the 14 murders. there are 16 others who were convicted of manslaughter and homicide. there's also drunk drivers that caused the deaths other people this is a wide array of different people, and for a variety of crimes that have been affected by these pardons. and not to mention the families of the victims in these cases. >> did any of these folks personally know the governor? did he have a relationship with any of these guys? >> it's interesting. there's a woman who is a socialite in jackson, mississippi, who was in an accident that caused the deaths
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of two other -- the deaths of two doctors. there was also several of the murders that were released worked as trustees on the governor's mansion grounds. trustees are inmates that get more privileges or are trusted in, in essence, able to get more privileges than other inmates. all made more dramatic by the fact that he has refused to offer any explanations. we've been told there would be no comment. >> do we know why, ed, they had four convicted murders as part of the detail doing the gardening or whatever kind of work therm doing on the governor's property. did he know these were convicted murders? >> if he did. it's unclear. simply by the fact he's not answering any questions.
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his spokesperson isn't offering any explanation. a great many people are exploding with in mississippi, anxious to know. here's some sort of explanation. >> this brings us to today's question, should unconditional pardons be allowed? the record is wiped clean of the carpal as if they were never charged. they can possess weapons. they can vote. they can run for office. should someone who has been convicted of murder have the rights? leave your thoughts at facebook.com/suzannecnn. share those later in the hour. joran van der sloot on trial for first-degree murder. he is just entered a plea.
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republican presidential candidates are descending on south carolina. romney and the rivals all have campaign stops today. we'll show you that live. ron paul campaigning in west columbia. and in the meantime, president obama is focusing on the number one issue in the presidential race. we're talking about jobs. he's meeting with business leaders. he wants to talk about ways for companies to keep the jobs here in the united states, instead of outsourcing overseas. the president will speak after the meeting today. we'll take the remarks live
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around 12:15 eastern. want to get you up to speed on the other top stories. joran van der sloot has now formally pleaded guilty to all charges against him. the judge granted him a delay to reflect on options. van der sloot is the same person, the main suspect, you'll recall, in the 2005 disappearance of the alabama teenager, natalee holloway. want to bring in paul, criminal defense attorney. and paul, let's talk about the case first. regarding the peruvian woman. he pleaded guilty to her murder. it was a gruesome murder, a gruesome crime. why not fight? why plead guilty? >> well, i think the evidence in the case was very strong against h him. for starters, there was never denial that he was with the girl
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and video surveillance showed him entering the room with the victim and then leaving the body behin behind. >> what do we think he's going to get in terms of time? >> well, the early speculation on this was the sentence could be as little as eight years and he would be allowed to plead guilty. the victim's family was upset. and the plea has been a plea that depends upon convincing the court that this was a killing that arose out of severe emotional distress. achbed a defense. she was angry because he was looking at his computer. it's not like he was angry because she was trying to attack him or she had run off with another man or some of the things you sometimes see in extreme emotional distress cases. looking at somebody else's
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computer would hardly rise to the level of extreme emotional distress. >> and i understand looking at the computer, she was a suspect in the killing of the death of natalee holloway. let's go to that quickly here. that case is still opened in aruba. he was arrested as a suspect in the case but let go because of lack of evidence. that happened twice. is it possible still to have that case if natalee holloway's body is discovered or more evidence comes about to have him being tried in the case in the death of natalee holloway. >> yes, it remains theoretically possible if fishes develop evidence against him. i would add one cautionary note. unlike the united states, where there's no statutes of limitations on murder, aruba buzz have one. it depends on the level of murder charged that's being
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lodged. so aruba could make out the case. but as the years go by, that possibility will fade. >> and finally, paul, he is wanted on the united states from another matter in terms of fraud and extortion. does he have to first fulfill his sentence in peru before he can be taken to the united states to face those charges as well? >> that's a great question. he extorted $25,000 allegedly from the holloway family by telling them in exchange for the money he knew where her body was. he never gave helpful information. he used the money to go to peru and now apparently commit this second homicide. and yes, there's a detainer in peru. when he completes the sentence, he can be extradited back to the
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united states for trial. there could be a deal to bring him back sooner if the local prosecutoring officials wanted to do that. >> paul, thank you so much. we're getting a rare look at pro and anti--government demonstrations from syria. the president turns up at this boisterous rally. he assures the cheering crowd they would triumph over what is repeatedly called a conspiracy. then here's another rally. they got thousands of protesters turning out they are outraged over the brutal crackdown. monique roberts was at the anti-government protest.
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this one inside the capitol. >> reporter: the level of anger and passion here is palpable. we're a few miles for the center of damascus. this is a crowd here of several hundred thousand people. they have rocks in the road to prevent police coming in here. >> dramatic stuff. you can bet there are be a lot of independent-minded folks. we'll tell you how they voted in new hampshire and what that could mean for the presidential race. ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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mitt romney hads to south carolina after going two for two. some say it looks like the nominee hands down. then the iranian nuclear scientist killed on the streets of tehran. he is not the first one. ivan watson with more on that story. and then later supply ships are still hundred miles away. and now they might be stuck in that ice. all right. it was pretty much a convincing win for mitt romney. here's a look at the results from the new hampshire primary. romney took 40% of the vote. ron paul finished second with
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23%. jon huntsman got 17% to finish third place. newt gingrich finished ahead of rick santorum with 9%. rick perry getting 1%. but we want to go beyond the numbers and take a look at the exit polls. they give us a good idea of the voters. the decisions they made. i want to bring in our own christine romans who has been sifting through all of that. it wasn't as exciting as iowa. last-minute nail biter or anything like that. i suppose that's a rare moment when you get that drama. we were wondering what the independents would do. they played a huge role in new hampshire. how did that break down? they did. they are the up for grabs group that behave differently in different states. so here are the independents. they went for ron paul by 32%. so of the people who consider
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themselves independent, 32% were supporters of ron paul. 29% plays into the story line as him as a more moderate new england republican. he maybe appealed to a different independent, which may be more moderate as well in new england. so the independent vote would be very different in south. but look at how close those two are. 32% to 29%. also watching the tea party. this is another group that's incredibly important, but it's also playing out differently in different states. of those who consider themselves supporters of the tea party, 40% went for mitt romney. that was a surprise to some people watching this, that he got the tea party support. andson tor um got 14%. it's interesting. when you look at the top candidate qualities, this is about electability. 35% of us said it was beating barack obama. when you see who won the
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category, it was mitt romney. >> like the pictures there. it sums it up. do we think south carolina will be interesting as well? >> each one of these states is so different. if you're in a campaign, you're tweaking the ground game. you're looking at the independent vote and the tea party vote. you're trying to figure out how the two groups will be different than in south carolina. south carolina will have a different kind of economic importance also. 9.9 pbl 9.9% is the unemployment rate. it's a different intensity both on the social issues, but also on the chick issues when the candidates get to south carolina. if they're not there already. >> it will be interesting to see if they're motivated. if they're unemploy ed are you
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going to vote and make your opinion known? i think the turnout was better. if we have an 8% unemployment rate this year that maybe we're stuck around here for now, then each of the individual states, the battleground states in particular, so much more important. they certainly have higher unemployment rates today than when the president took office. >> christine. great to see you. mitt romney got the win he was waiting for. romney is the first candidate to win iowa and new hampshire since the 1970s. does that make him the inevitable candidate? larry is joining us to talk about this. it was a pretty big win for
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romney. and some folks say he's walking the walk, talking the talk. like he's the republican nominee. but he doesn't really have things wrapped up just yet, does he? >> no. you have to wait until you have a majority of the delegates. that can't happen until april mathematically. so it's going to be a while. obviously we gain these things out a long time in advance. and romney has always been the favorite. now he's a very substantial favorite. some may say a prohibited favorite to be the nominee. >> is there anything the rivals can do to stop him? >> well, they're certainly going to try. and south carolina is the place to do it. it has the profile of a state more likely, maybe most likely to give romney a set back. every nominee in the republican party since 1976 has had at least one setback on the road to
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the nomination. so it will be extraordinary if mitt romney never has a single setback during the nominating campaign. maybe it's south carolina. maybe it isn't. if he loses south carolina, he would still be a heavy betting favorite to be the nominee. >> you know, larry, republicans are usually afraid to lock step behind the early nominee in the process. but the brutal attacks that we're see iing against romney, we think that's going to have a long-term impact, a real damage on romney going into the general election if it get there is? >> here's been the pattern in the past, suzanne. even when you had intense fights, vicious fights, the out of power party, when they really dislike an incumbent as the republicans dislike president obama, they tend to come back together. they do tend to reunify. but here's the problem for the republicans. in this particular case, both
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newt gingrich and rick perry have supplied vicious sound bites about venture capitol. the capital issue for mitt romney. that will be taken whole by president obama's team and inserted into tv ads in the fall. that's going to have a lot more credibility coming from the plouts of two conservative republicans than it would ever have had coming from president obama or his democratic surrogates. >> yeah, let's take a listen real quick to what rick perry said about capital. >> i will suggest they're just vultures. they're vultures that are sitting out there on the tree limb waiting for the company. and then they swoop in. they eat the carcass. they leave with that. and they leave the skull. >> that imagery is really dramatic. the carcass and the skeleton.
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he's trying to make a point here. he's trying to paint romney as a job killer. is there somebody in the party, you think, who will say at some point, time for the trash talking to end. it's time to get behind the guy who we want to go against obama. >> yes. by the way, who knew there were occupy republicans? but apparently there are if you listen to what rick perry said about vulture capitalists and the things newt gingrich has said. there will be republican leaders who will say that. there are already republican leaders. rush limbaugh has come down very hard on newt gingrich for the rhetoric he's been using about capital. but we're in a different era. nobody runs the republican party. nobody runs the democratic party unless it's an incumbent president. you don't have a boss.
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the republicans don't have a boss to say no. >> they do have party elders. it would be fascinating to see how this unfolds. thank you so much, larry. appreciate it. the driver never expected this. he had no time to react. he's very lucky to be alive after a pipe flies through his windshield. we're going to tell you what happened. more and more folks are trying out snapshot from progressive. a totally different way to save on car insurance. the better you drive, the more you can save. no wonder snapshot's catching on. plug into the savings you deserve with snapshot from progressive. my high school science teacher made me what i am today. our science teacher helped us build it. ♪
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where you start your food shopping may determine how much you spend. most shop counter clockwise and shoppers who chick out the produce aisle spend more time in the stores. shop for fruits and veggies last. and the processed foods are the in center of the store. you got all the good stuff around the ring. and there's something about a five-minute rule that you have going on. >> we're all looking for the quick and easy meals. but couponmom.com says uses the five minute rule. if it takes you five minutes or less to prep an item then it's worth your time and you'll save money doing it yourself. which means, don't be so lazy.
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and when paying, use cash. also if the store has them, use the self checkout lines. it will help you avoid the impulse buys. and think twice before you buy the $5 box of cookies. i like the real expensive cookies. they always taste so good. >> i get all the prepared meals that cost a ton of money. >> you're paying for convenience. >> that's true. i guess it saves time there. and i understand shopping early in the day will help you keep the bills down as well. alison is going to bring to to us straight ahead. giant frozen vegetables.ithn over twenty delicious varieties have sixty calories or less per serving and are now weight watchers-endorsed. try green giant frozen vegetables with sauce. ♪ baby, baby, come along ♪ baby, baby, come along with me ♪
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who doesn't love a sale? when it comes to grocery coupons, it's just not about searching the store for deals. alison kosik has more on how to save money at the grocery store. so, couponing back in tile? >> couponing is back in style. we've seen reality shows like extreme couponing. it's got to be hip. but if you're not a coupon clipper. couponmom.com's stephanie nelson says to shop early in the day. for chicken and cereal, consumer reports say they hit their
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lowest prices once every 12 weeks. jot down when you see the sales and you'll know when to stock off. buy store brands or generic. that can save you 50% or more. look at smartsource.com. coupons.com. all those places. they have mobile versions. and also a free app called cellfire which loads coupons from over 4,000 stores and sends you a reminder when you walk into that store to show you have coupons. so you have a little help there. >> so pennies. it cost some pennies to buy this little snack food. i don't know if you eat these still. i think every had had to have these. hostess makes twinkies. right? >> of course. >> hostess is now filing for bankruptcy. it owes creditors more than a billion dollars. of course, it raises the
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question of whether or not this is the end of twinkies. and i want you to take a listen. have you ever wondered what is in a twinkie? >> you're going to tell me, right? >> listen to this. listen to this. >> the twinkie is one of the finest examples of engineering. the colors come from a chemical industry from benzine, which is poisonous. but in the small quantities used here the fda has approved. >> alison, poisonous. >> i'm shocked. i'm shocked. >> they last for like a century in your pantry. they never go bad. you wonder what is keeping them preserved and alive there. even hostess, so the company said that once deconstructing the twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe. >> if i walk by a vending
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machine, and i want one of those, it's not going to stop me from getting one. >> you can buy it. it will probably bepreserved for 100 years. >> that's right. leave it in your desk drawer forever. >> okay. alison, great to see you. >> and a play in the big league, you've got to have the big bucks. candidates are doing more to get more money. paul steinhauser is joining us following the money trail. we know the stakes are high. how are these folks doing when it comes to fundraising? >> reporter: fundraising matters so much, suzanne. money matters when it comes to politics. the mitt romney campaign brought in $24 million in the last three months of the fourth quarter of last year. they still have $19 million cash on hand, money that they can spend right now on ads. it's a lot of money, a lot more of the rivals from the presidential nomination but it's still behind president barack
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obama looking ahead to the general election. another note about romney, one of those pro-romney independent super pacs, they announced that they are going to spend $3.5 million to run ads in favor of romney and south carolina, florida, the next two states. primaries that were done with new hampshire here. one more talk about money, i learned this morning, rick santorum a much more modest campaign but they say they've raised $3 million just in the last week since they've had the strong second place in iowa. a top campaign person tells me that they are going to spend that money right away on south carolina when it comes to ads. i ate a lot of twinkies when i was younger and i don't feel so
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well. >> they are probably still inside of you. >> i know north carolina voters are being looking for him to address the economy but also conservative social issues as well. how does he get their support? >> reporter: you know, the next stop is a lot more conservative. more social conservatives and retired military people are in the state as well. for somebody like romney, he's got to do a different approach, maybe, where you have more independent voters, more independent-minded people. suzanne? >> paul, thank you. appreciate it. haylee barber handed out hundreds of pardons, some of them convicted murders. the question was, should they even be allowed?
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no pardon should wipe this away like it even happened. the victims families do not get a pardon from their loss and of course they should be allowed but perhaps they need to have a better review by the process of the governing process. it will help rectify wrongful conditions and inhumanity. rick says it depends on the circumstances surroundinging the crime. everyone who murdered someone is not a hardened criminal. fred writes, unconditional pardons should be allowed only if the murdered victims can climb out of their grave and live again. daniel says, i think it sends a bad message. usually they don't learn anything. it's going to be interesting to see if there are any repeat
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an iranian nuclear scientist is dead. here's what we know. an attacker on a motorcycle reportedly pulled up to his car and attached a bomb.
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this is not even the first time that a nuclear scientist has been killed in iran. ivan watson in istanbul has reported extensively from iran. first of all, what do we know about this nuclear scientist and why somebody would want him dead. >> reporter: well, there's clearly a pattern here. someone is killing iranian nuclear scientists, and this is the latest hit carried out in broad daylight in heavy traffic. iran state media reports that someone drove up and attached a magnetic bomb. and later it also kill d the driver. this is not the first time we've seen this type of assassination against this type of target in iran. take a look at the other hits that we've seen similarly.
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in 2010, another man was killed by a similar motor bike delivered sticky bomb on his car in tehran and earlier, january 2010, almost exactly two years ago, masoud, another nuclear physicist, killed by a sticky bomb in traffic. it's no surprise that air rain general officials -- they are already blaming the cia in the past and mi6 intelligence. >> why are they blaming the u.s.? why do they suspect that the suz involved? >> well, there's no secret that western governments, the u.s. and its allies are very much against iran's nuclear program. and just last weekend after iran announced that it was going to
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begin enrichment of uranium, and they say it's going to be used to treat cancer patients just on tuesday, hillary clinton came out condemning that move, saying this step once again demonstrates the iranian regime blatant disregard for its responsibilities and that the country's growing isolation is self-inflicted. it brings iran a significant step closer to having the capability to produce weapons-grade highly enriched uranium. suzanne? >> ivan watson, thank you. the president has talked about increasing sanctions on the rogue country but all of the candidates except ron paul wants to see more action. gingrich turned heads in a debate similar to what happened
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yesterday. >> the maximum covert operations to block and disrupt the iranian program, including taking out their scientists, including breaking up their systems, all of it covertly, all of it deniable, second, maximum coordination with the israelis in a way which allows them to maximize their impact in iran. third, absolute strategic program comparable to what president reagan, pope john paul ii did and breaking the regime and bringing it down. >> the irani government has blamed foreign terrorism for the attack but neither has admitted having anything to do with the scientist's death. top of the hour, i'm suzanne malveaux. south carolina is the next
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battle ground in the presidential race. both ron paul, newt gingrich are campaigning in south carolina this hour. gingrich and other candidates are taking aim now at mitt romney last night. romney says the attacks on his business record are not going to work. >> i understand president obama is going to try to put free enterprise on trial but newt gingrich and rick perry are going to be the witnesses for the prosecution. i'm not worried about that. they can take it as they like. you saw last night that approach didn't work well for either rick perry or newt gingrich. >> south carolinans are going to sit around and pick one conservative it seems when they moderate they can't understand it. what is it i believe now? >> it was a decisive victory for
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mitt romney. romney took 40% of the vote. ron paul finished second with 23%. jon huntsman got 17% to finish third place. newt gingrich finished with 10% ahead of rick santorum with 9%. rick perry had just 1%. so it is the number one issue in the presidential race. we're talking about jobs. it's what president obama is talking about shortly. he's meeting with business leaders and others to talk about in-sourcing, what he calls in-sourcing jobs, looking for ways for companies to stop outsourcing jobs overseas. the president will speak in about 15 minutes. keeping our eye on the white house? now, former mississippi governor haylee barber is under increasing scrutiny after pardoning 199 criminals. convicted murderers who worked
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at the governor mansion. a shooting survivor and the sister of a victim spoke to cnn. >> i feel like my safety is in jeopardy. i feel like we are in jail now and david is out of jail. we will forever be looking over our shoulder wondering if today is the day that he's decided to finish what he started. all right. this is the scene from yesterday in syria. a journalist was killed. a witness told cnn that a civilian also died in that strike. ten others were injured including a dutch journalist. nic robertson is reporting from
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inside the capitol. >> reporter: it's absolutely palitable. we're a few miles from damascus. this is a crowd here of prance perhaps thousands of people. they put rocks in the roads. toont they accuse the country's president of using what they say armed thugs to approach protest sisters. nye engineer yans took to the streets when they ended fuel subsidies. the red cross counts 16 dead and more than 200 injured now in that violence. penn state assistant football coach jay paterno has resigned from his job. he leaves two months after his
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father, joe paterno, was fired. penn state is still in the grips of a child sex abuse scandal surrounding assistant coach jerry sandusky. all right. so mitt romney making history by making it two in a row. he is the first nonincumbent candidate to win both. democrats say he heads to south carolina with some real battle scars. >> to not crack 40% in a primary that you should have droves of republicans coming to vote for you, that's a problem. but he's here as -- he came out of this primary as a wounded candidate. >> wolf blitzer, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> you look at democrats and they are wounded with battle scars. does he go to south carolina
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with baggage? >> he's always got some problems but that is not to say he's wounded. he won a landslide, almost 40% in a field lining that is pretty good. he was way ahead of ron paul and way ahead of the number three, jon huntsman and rick santorum and rick perry. it was a record turnout for a new hampshire republican primary. 250,000 people showed up. so that was pretty good. that was pretty impressive. i don't think you can say that he's wounded. does he have issues? will he be attacked in south carolina? absolutely. are they going to go after him? they certainly will. we'll see what happens in south carolina. >> and ron paul has a lot of money and a lot of stamina and certainly very passionate supporters. back in 2008 long after he dropped out of the race, we kept seeing signs, ron paul signs on the campaign trail. what's the impact if ron paul decides that he's going to keep going for a while, getting that 11 or 12%?
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>> he got more than that. he got more than 20%. he got more than 20% in iowa, too. he's a force. he's got a strong base of support out there that wants him to keep ongoing. i suspect not only will he keep ongoing in south carolina but throughout february he's going to keep ongoing. even if, let's say -- and i don't know if this is going to happen. mitt romney wins in south carolina and other candidates drop out, i suspect some of them will go on to florida. ron paul is going to stay in it. he's got a mission and a statement that he wants to make. >> and we're going to watch him in west columbia, south carolina. newt gingrich came in at fourth place there at 13%. what is he going to do now? >> he is going on to south carolina. his father is a billionaire if he want to tap into that. he's doing fundraising today.
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we'll see how he does in south carolina. the last poll that we did there didn't show him doing very well but as we saw from rick santorum surge in iowa, in politics you and i have covered this. a week, two weeks, that's a long time in the world of politics. things can change. you never know what happens. he's in it at least through south carolina. we'll see how he does there. >> i spoke to mary kay huntsman and the 2.3 from his own world chest to get his campaign up and running, we'll see if he taps into his millionaire dad's money. >> he's got a great wife and beautiful daughters. those are major weapons in the arsenal. and then take a look at mitt romney, ann romney is a secret weapon for mitt romney. he should use her a lot more
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often. >> not so secret now. let's listen in to ron paul. >> thank you. thank you very much. i guess you know who is with me. my wife, carol. we have a few other members of the family with us. i have my daughter-in-law peggy, membership grant son mark and a granddaughter linda. it was great. it is pretty amazing and last night it was a little different,
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they had a little time avoiding the real conversation. and like i said last night, and there was something very special. we had a victory for the cause of liberty last night. that is so different and that is also the reason the crowds are different, the enthusiasm is different. somebody told me -- i wasn't there, so i can't verify it -- they said, you know, the governors, there was a good crowd out and they had a lot of enthusiasm. he left and everybody else left. well, two to three hours later we had people there still having a real good time and celebrating. there's just so much enthusiasm that keeps growing. you know, it was mentioned by mike about four years ago, we were much smaller in numbers and i always talk about the tireless
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ir rate minority that leads the charge and we're not so small. we're not so much of a minority. we're marching on. the numbers are growing. they grew exponentially and they are going to continue to grow here in south carolina as well. this morning they can cite one poll and move it up. of course, the polling cited was, i was not off the top here in south carolina, i said, yes, but you haven't done a poll since last night. we're on the move and it isn't only because you have a candidate. we have an issue. we have a set of principles that we are going to defend and -- >> ron paul there campaigning in south carolina. we are also expecting remarks
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we're keeping an eye on the white house there. we're expecting for president obama to make remarks fairly soon. he's going to talk about the number one issue and that is
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job. he's been meeting with business leaders, looking for ways to keep companies from out-sourcing jobs and taking them overseas. he's scheduled to speak any minute. we'll see if they come out on time. haylee barber's parting gift as he left the governor's office was others convicted of rape, arounded robbery, numerous drug-related offenses and all of them full, complete, unconditional pardons. that wipes their record clean and the family members, of course, are devastated. >> it outrages me. you know, governor barbour, i
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would like to think, didn't have all of the facts because if he did and he pardoned this man any way, we've had a monster for a governor. >> wow. a monster for a governor. that's what people are saying here. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin joining us from new york. people are angry, heartbroken, and don't understand how something like this can even happen. do they even have recourse? is there anything these families can do? >> absolutely nothing. this is one of the powers that goes through the head of government, head of state, that really goes back to kings, even before the american revolution. to undo a justice.
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it cannot be overturned by a court. it's at the discretion of the governor and that, for better or worse, is the end of the story. >> jeff, are you saying -- because this is unprecedented. when you think about 200 criminals being pardoned by an outgoing governor, there is no way to change the law or change the constitution or anything regarding this. there's nothing that anyone can do? >> you would have to change the mississippi constitution. and every constitution -- state constitution in the country, including in the federal constitution, has a provision that allows for pardons and the pardons have been used for good purposes over the years. there have been unjust convictions that have been undone. there have been excessive sentences that have been undone. but here it looks like the governor pardoned his cronies.
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many of these people that were so-called trustees, they worked in the governor's mansion, he got to know them and then he pardoned them. but the check on this is simply don't elect a governor who will do this kind of thing because this is a power that really does not have a check once someone is the governor. >> so the communities say who find themselves in the neighborhood where one of these murderers, convicted murderers happens to move next door, is there anything that they can do to protect themselves, like publicly shaming themselves, posting signs, denying them access, is there anything that they can do, especially those worried about their own safety? >> the freedom of speech, criticize haley barbour like they are doing but there are no laws in mississippi for murderers to have to register
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and one of the things that's very important about the difference between a pardon and someone whose sentence has ended, these people no longer count as a convicted felon. it is as if they were never charged so they can vote, they can buy firearms, they can run for office, they are free to a degree that people who sentences simply ended are not. i mean, they have advantages that are very substantial and, as i said earlier, there is really nothing anyone can do about it. >> right. and i assume, if they wanted to apply for a job or anything like that, there's nothing on their record that says that they were accused or convicted of anything as well. >> that's a little less clear to me. i have to say that there are not that many pardons. there's not a ton of law on this.
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certainly they have legal rights as if they were never charge. whether they would have to put it on a job application, i wouldn't know. i certainly wouldn't want to be the co-worker of someone who simply left off as if they hadn't been convicted of murder. but i am not sure about what the law is about job applications. >> shocking story out of mississippi. thank you, jeff. appreciate it. today's talk back question, should unconditional pardons be allowed? their record wiped clean as if they were never charged? convicted criminals can vote, run for office, what do you think about all of this? should unconditional pardons be allowed? leave us your thoughts at facebook.com/suzannecnn. also, waiting for president obama. we're keeping our eye on the white house there. you can see he is going to be
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all right. president obama is talking about ways to keep jobs in america today. he's calling it insourcing instead of outsourcing jobs overseas. we're keeping our eye on the white house there. he's expected to speak momentarily. obviously talking about how to turn the jobs picture around in time to save his own job, perhaps. alison kosik is joining us from the new york stock exchange.
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alison, i understand -- let's take a look at the president's track record. he may be able to break even when it comes to his four years in office. hard to say whether or not that's going to be enough to compensate. >> exactly. so when you're talking about jobs so far president obama is actually in the hole. the economy lost 8.8 million jobs. since the recession began. but less than half of those jobs were actually lost during the president's watch and most of those have been gained back. where does that put him now? 1.6 million jobs in the hole. remember, he still has 11 months to go. he still has growing room here. the survey of economists show that the economy is expected to add exactly that. 1.6 million jobs between now and november. and, yes, that means that president obama can end up breaking even.
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you want a comparison, look at george w. bush. >> what kind of jobs are we taking about when you say that they are creating jobs? do they have job benefits or are they temporary? >> a good number of them are turn rather. i want to show you some of the top sectors for hiring under president obama. temporary help came in number two after the number one, education and health services. but temporary work is not all that bad. it's a way to get in the front door. it keeps your skills sharp and keeps you from being among the long-term unemployed. at least you're taking home a paycheck. suzanne? >> alison, clearly this is the one thing that everyone is looking at, how folks are doing and how do they feel about what
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they are doing, whether or not they are any better off than they were four years ago. >> a lot of people think that unemployment is really going to be the deciding factor in this race. you think about it, no president since fdr has been elected for a second term with a jobless rate of over 7.2%. our unemployment rate is at 8.5%. it's a huge hurdle for president obama to overcome during this campaign. he's made improvements. unemployment is falling from where when he took office. to go out there and tell people that it's a great economy when they are out of work, people are doing that. suzanne? >> alison, thank you. of course, when all of these jobs disappear, that means that more people are living in poverty in this country. i'm going to talk to radio host at cornell west about how they are trying to turn this things around. and rushes relief to the site of your tough pain.
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tdd# 1-800-345-2550 talk to chuck today. the president pushing to highlight all of the good news when it comes to the economy. we're waiting a statement that the president is going to be making at the white house. joining us is mark preston, the cnn political director. nice to see you. when the president speaks, we'll go to that live and talk about it. but clearly he has some work to do and he's pushing himself as the guy who really cares about the middle class, about folks who are struggling. does he have the accomplishments that he needs to convince voters that that's true, that their lives are better off today? >> you know, he's in a really tough position because if yhe
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talked about working with congress and as you said now, he is now the fighter for the middle class and they are taking it straight to the republican congress. look, he has a very difficult task. he has to not only legislate over the next year because he is the president, but he has to win re-election and it's going to be very, very difficult on this issue. now, what he's got going for him is that people like him personally. when you covered him, you were on the campaign trail, you were in the white house with him. people like him but they are not enamored with what he's done with the economy. >> in 2008 and now in 2012, you don't see the enthusiasm. he's got time. he's got a year. we have people bho swho say, we the guy, he has a tough job but that's not going to motivate us to come out and vote like we did
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the last go around. what does he need to do now? what does he need to do to get that kind of response from people? >> we're going to go out and vote and make telephone calls and write 5, 10, 15, $20 checks, he needs to get independents to think that he is the one who is going to be able to fix the ills that are facing the economy. mainly, the economy. 8.5%, which is better than it was a couple months ago, but what he needs more importantly than an unemployment rate at 8.5% or perhaps lower, he needs a trend line. people need to look at president obama and say, he's working, things are starting to improve. he needs the trend line. >> the one thing that he has going for him, he has a lot of money. he's got a lot of supports within the democrats. the liberal democrats are still
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extremely frustrated with him in terms of his agenda not really matching their own agenda. romney has money as well. the other republican candidates, how are they doing in terms of how they are going to go against potentially this obama money machine? >> sure. two-tiered. there was talk that the obama campaign was going to leak out a billion and the campaign has said that that was not true. it was a leaked number and it's perhaps attainable. if you look at what happened in 2008, he raised over $740 million. he has the bully pull pit of the white house and what he needs to do at this point is to try to get that base solidified so at the same time we have mitt romney who, let's assume that he's the nominee, he needs to get the republican money base behind him. right now mitt romney has $19 million cash on hand.
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now, he has to spend money because he's in a tough primary and let's not forget about this one tier, the super pacs. the independent groups that are going to come in and spend a lot of money and they are going to run nasty, nasty ads. the democrats are going to do it. >> they have their own super pacs on the other side. >> absolutely. >> it's a very ugly situation and it's profound how it's changed the way we do politics and the way we elect our presidents, our leaders. the fact that you have these massively, unrestricted funded campaigns that they can weigh in so heavily. >> and early on. >> and early on and take -- look, this isn't new necessarily. but they are taking words out of context. they are putting them in these 30-second ads and blasting them out there and they are putting a lot of cash behind them. >> mark, good to see you. >> thank you. primary voters have told us that it's the economy and the family's financial health, it's the number one issues for the candidates.
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so the so-called great recession, which officially ended back in 2009, it has now left almost one in two americans in the poor or low-income categories. that is according to a new census measure. that is 146,000 americans now living in poverty and one out of three low-income. so what are we going to do about it? and our politicians are addressing it in the campaigns. traveling across the country trying to bring the issue of poverty into the political conversation, tavis is the host on pbs and good to see you both here. you have been on the front lines. tavis, i want to start with you. this map shows the states with
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the highest rates of poverty. one of them is south carolina, the next primary voting states. the rest of them, mostly in the south and southwest. explain to us why that is the case right now. >> too many americans who live in certain regions of the country are suffering from the loss of manufacturing jobs, number one. the country is no longer the lieder in the world when it comes to manufacturing but across the country, we see as you mention in that southern swing, number one but in many of the key battle ground states, suzanne, we see poverty as high as it has been in many years as well. i think this issue has got to become an issue that gets some traction and conversation during this campaign. i've said before that in the last race for the white house, suzanne, you were at the white house at that time, in 2008, in those presidential debates between mr. mccain and mr. obama, the word poor did not come up one time. the word poverty did not come up one time. mr. obama did not raise it. the moderators in those debates
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did not even ask a question about poverty. fast forward very quick four years, you put the map up. you've seen the numbers. there's no way that we can abide or endure where poverty doesn't get discussed. >> and i want to ask you -- we're going to bring in the politics later here. but we've seen a new p research poll, those that were raised in middle class do not make it into middle class now. a family had to make between $33,000 and $64,000. fast forward now, being in the middle class means between making 54,000 and $111,000. >> that's right. >> to professor west, why do we think this is happening? if you're in the middle class you won't -- there's not a good chance you're even going to make it and stay there. >> no. i think there's more and more limited opportunity. that's precisely why we're here. brother tavis is bringing us the
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special on c-span and how is it so that so many poor people are continuing to work hard and still remain in poverty and the rich still get richer? that is, we need some kind of a class analysis why one out of two americans are living in poverty or near poverty. that's a moral disgrace. we ought to be ashamed. what are we going to do about it, if you really believe that poor people are as priceless and talk show hosts, investment banksers, or anybody else. >> who are they? who is the new face of the poor? >> that's a proper question. the data that you just presented lays it out. the answer is simply this. the new poor in america is the former middle class. so often politicians on the left and the right taking heed from their pollsters want to talk about directly to the angst of the middle class voter.
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this time around, that dog as they say in texas, won't hunt. because it's the former middle class. beyond, that the younger you are in this country, the more likely you are to be poor. on top of that pugh study, just released today is a white paper that talks about how young people are falling faster into poverty. women and children are falling faster than anybody else. even the numbers of the poor are still going to grow and we say it this way, suzanne. you have the perennially poor, the near poor, and the poor. >> we are going to talk about the politics of poverty, some solutions here, and also about how the candidates are discussing the problem if they are even discussing the problem. we're going to continue our conversation after the break.
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zoo. the presidential hopefuls are giving ideas on the economy. here are some of the more controversial statements. >> young children who are poor ought to learn how to go to work. some of the things they could do is work in the library, the front office.
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some of them, frankly could be janitorial. >> the democrats could take that comment and say, newt gingrich wants inner-city kids to become janitors at age 10. >> that's right. newt gingrich wants inner-city kids to learn how to have a job. >> i don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money, i want to give them the opportunity to go out and learn the money. >> all right. tavis, cornell west, a princeton professor and author, those are comments that people found quite offensive and strange and we heard from some of the candidates who responded and actually refrakted their comments. what do you make of them? >> they would be laughable if they weren't so serious, if the issue of poverty wasn't so serious. those comments would almost be
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laughable. what america suffers from -- dr. west and i are going back to the table at the hotel. we've been working on trying to finish up the final edit on a new book coming out in april. we argue in this book, will argue that what america suffers from is not just a poverty of opportunity but a poverty of imagination, passion, a poverty of vision. we somehow have a poverty of a number of things. there's no affirmation there. there's no vision there or imagination there. these comments are playing to base voters and the bottom line is this. in washington right now on the issue of poverty, there appears to be, suzanne a. bipartisan consensus that the poor don't really matter. the spineless democrats have not been aggressive on this as they should be. by and large, they have not been as aggressive. the republicans that want to become president, demonizing the
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aspersion on. >> professor, is there any presidential hopeful that you have heard bring attention to poverty and is the president doing enough to bring attention to this and address it? >> no, i haven't seen a republican kantd date hit this in the way that he or she ought. there's no doubt that president obama is better when it comes to the issues of justice. it's just that in the end he has not had the commitment that i think he ought to have. i think he needs to listen to the bernie sanders and others in his own party. he's been speaking in a powerful
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way about jobs and when he decides the well to do and powerful were critical of him, we support principles, not politicians. but certainly he's been at republicans. but for the most part, the best thing to happen to the issue of poverty is tavis raised the issue, keith observe better man raise an issue, you raise an issue on your show, and the occupy movement making sure that we talk seriously about poverty, wealth, and equality. >> we have to wrap it up there. thank you very much for your time and the conversation. 30 years later, the investigation into natalie wood's death is still ongoing. we're going to have the latest on that.
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we are keeping a close eye on the white house there. you see president obama's just minutes away from making remarks. he's going to be talking about insourcing jobs, keeping jobs in this country rather than providing them overseas. this is all about his push to show voters that he is paying attention to the middle class, that is he concerned about the struggle that many americans are feeling during these tough economic times and, of course, it comes in the larger context of the 2012 presidential race, the campaign that is well under
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way. we're going to bring that to you live as soon as that happens. journalists are gathered there waiting for his remarks. i want to go to another story. celebrity death, sex, that surrounds the hollywood drama of natalie wood. the actress died in 1981 while boating off the california coast with her husband robert wagner and fellow actor christ sister watkin. authorities say that there are still new leads and the captain has accused wagner and watkin for being responsible for the death. >> i said, well, let's turn on the search light to see if we can see her. he says, no, we don't want to do that right now. i say, well, maybe let's call
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into the restaurant and he said, no, we don't want to do anything at the moment. >> investigators say that they are still digging into those wor joran van der sloot faces 30 years in prison. that is the maximum sentence in peru and they hope that he it's going to transcend into a guilty plea. he is also suspected in the disappearance of natalee holloway death in 2005. the president is just minutes away from speaking about jobs from the white house. we'll bring it to you live. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms.
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that's exactly the kind of commitment to the country that we need. especially right now when we're in a make or break moment to the middle class and those aspiring. all across the country, i met folks with a faith that hard work paid off and responsibility was rewarded and anybody could make it if they tried, no matter where you came from, what you looked like, no matter how you started up those are the values that my grandparents and mother taught me, the best products and largest middle class that the world has ever known. i think we understand that over the last few decades that bargain has eroded for too many americans. the economy has changed rapidly and for many that change has been painful. factories where people thought
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they would retire packed up and went overseas where labor costs were cheaper. at the same time, we live in a global economy and as other countries grow and develop, middle class countries will employ workers and make investments all over the world. but right now we're at a unique moment, inflection point, a period where we've got the opportunity for those jobs to come back and the business leaders in this room, they are ahead of the curve. they recognize it. after shedding jobs for more than a decade, american manufacturers have now added jobs for two years in a row. that's good news. but when a lot of folks are still looking for work, now's the time for us to step on the gas. so that's why i push congress to extend the payroll tax cut this year so that 160 million working
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americans were not hit with a tax hike. now' the time to extend that tax hike for all of the this year. it's the right thing to do and we need to get that done. but we have to do more. that's why we're going to put forward more tax proposals for companies that refuse to bring jobs home and invest in america. and we're going to eliminate tax breaks for companies moving jobs overseas because there's an opportunity to be had right here and right now. there are workers ready to work right now. that's why i set a goal of doubling our exports of goods and services by 2014 and it's a goal, by the way, that we're on track to meet. in fact, we're a little ahead of schedule. that's why with the help of our outstanding ustr, i was able to sign trade agreements with colombia and panama.
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that's why i have fought for investments in schools and community colleges, that our workers remain the best that you will find anywhere, so that your businesses have more opportunities to take root and grow. i don't want to be known as a nation that is known for speculation and stacking up debt for other nations. i want to be known for making and sellings all over the products with three words stamped made in america, and we can make that happen. [ applause ] i don't want the next generation manufacturing jobs, taking jobs to germany and china. i want them taking root in michigan, ohio, virginia, north carolina. and that's a race that america can win. that's the race businesses like these will help us win. these are ceos that take pride
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in hiring people here in america. not just because it's increasingly the right thing to do for their bottom line but also because it's the right thing to do for the workers, for our communities, and for our country. and they are leading by example. i'm proud of that as an american but as president i want to make sure that they get some credit for it. just three years ago, for example, we almost lost the american auto industry. today the big three automakers are turning a profit and manufacturing the next generation of fuel-efficient cars that the rest of the world wants to buy. [ applause ] ford motor company, the company represented by workers and management on this stage has committed to investing $16 billion in the united states by 2015. $16 billion.
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[ applause ] and that includes bringing back about 2,000 jobs and shifting production from countries like japan, mexico, and china, to states like michigan, ohio, and missouri. masterlock, iconic company. when masterlock looked at their numbers, they saw that union workers in america could do the same job at competitive costs as nonunion workers in china. in fact, masterlock is now exporting their jobs from the united states to china and europe. and today for the first time in 15 years -- today for the first time in 15 years, masterlock's facility is operating at full capacity. but you don't have to be a big manufacturer to insource jobs. bruce's family generated
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furniture for five generations but in 1996, as jobs began shifting to asia, the family sold their business and bruce spent time in china and vietnam as a consultant for american furniture maker who is had shifted their production. while he was there, though, he noticed something he didn't expect. their customers actually wanted to buy things made in america. so he came home and started a new company, linconton furniture, which operates out of the old family factories that were shut down. he's even rehired former workers from his family business. you also don't have to be a manufacturer to insource jobs. you just heard tim, ceo of a health care i.t. company called galaxy solutions. they've already hired 150 workers with their outsource to detroit program. and they plan on hiring up to 500. and tim was quoted assaying, you