tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN January 13, 2012 5:00pm-6:00pm PST
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next week, south carolina, ahead of the state's primary. we'll see you at 7:00. we'll see you at 11:00. some great interviews are lined up. we'll check out some neat places in south carolina and our debate as well. thanks for watching. have a wonderful weekend. "anderson cooper 360" starts right now. we begin tonight with breaking news. the first upclose look at a potential showdown in the making with iran involving the lives of american sailers and big chunk of the world's oil supply. take a look. this is newly released pentagon video taken last week from an american war ship in the strait of hormuz. one of two close encounters with iranian gun boats. the boats came within 500 yards of the transport ship "uss new orleans" and according to navy did not respond to signals. iran, as you know, has been
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threatening to close the strait as global pressure grows over its nuclear program. 17 million barrels of oil flow through the strait every day. it's a choke point. as american officials have been warning privately and publicly, it is also a serious flash point. >> what about if they decide to block us off at the straits of hormuz? >> we made very clear that the united states will not tolerate blocking of the straits of hormuz. that's another red line for us and that we will respond to that. >> we will respond, he says. the question tonight is what will iran do next. what happens then. and what's being done right now to head off a crisis. barbara starr is at the pentagon. jill dougherty covering the diplomatic angle. and on the phone, kirk lippold, former commander of the "uss cole." what does the u.s. believe the intent was? trying to bait the u.s. military, provoke an altercation? >> maybe a little bit of both. the thinking is is the iranians really were not looking for a shooting match. they were going to break off but
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they were going to cause a little heart-stopping action before they did that. one of the things here is, look the iranians gained some intelligence by getting so close to u.s. navy ships. they were able to gauge the u.s. military response as they came at those ships. that gives them valuable information if the next time it's not just a cat and mouse game. >> what has been the reaction of the pentagon? >> well, a lot of concern. now, top officials will tell you that, look, these kinds of activities happen out in the persian gulf. that they deal with them. that they have a very strong stance. and that the provocative activity mainly comes from the revolutionary guard corps which operates these fast boats. but out there on the high seas, if you are a commander of a navy ship and you see three boats coming at you that way and they come within 500 yards, that's your reality and as a commander you have to decide very fast what you're going to do. >> let's talk to the former commander. everyone knows the tragedy of
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the "cole" just how dangerous small vessels can be. what's your assessment of the video, the action by the iranian navy? >> well, i think clearly they were trying to provoke a response by the united states navy. they were trying to gauge and judge, see what our reaction would be, how close they could get and what kind of actions we were taking in anticipation of them continuing to close or whether we would back off. whether we would fire warning shots. clearly the united states navy has indicated we attempted communications with them. they refused to respond. and at 500 yards they chose to break off the attack. again, it is judging, probing and checking to see how close they may come. every navy ship has an inherit right to defend itself. i'm sure there is within our rules of engagement a no-go zone that you would have warning shots fired, then if they
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continued to close, commanding officers of those ships must make a determination sometimes on a split second notice that they present a clear and present danger. it is indicating hostile intent or a hostile action. and they will take action as they see necessary to disable or destroy those boats from getting in close where they can present us with the danger. >> jill dougherty, you can count, there's so many incidents over generations where diplomatic issues have been played out at sea. with these kind of provocative actions. so many incidents at sea that have caused larger military conflicts. what message is the state department sending now to the iranian regime both privately and publicly? >> i think it boils down to don't even think about it. and that message is getting out both, you saw, with secretary panetta saying there are these red lines. also i can tell you here at the state department they are pulling out all the stops. using every type of channel that they have. because, remember, there are no
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diplomatic relations between the united states and iran. so they have to do it via other countries. the main one of course usually is the swiss because they're the protecting power. but there are other countries. there's qatar, oman, turkey, japan. >> this is a time of heightened tensions in many different areas. this is kind of a multidimensional chess game going on. you have a former u.s. marine who has now been arested in iran, sentenced to death. his family's from iran originally. he claims, his family claims he was just visiting his grandmothers. iran says he was spying for the united states. you also have the assassination, yet another assassination of an iranian nuclear scientist. someone drove by his car in a motorcycle, attached a magnetic bomb to his car, blew him and his driver up. so explain, barbara, the strait of hormuz, why it is so strategically important to the united states. >> strategically important. you said it yourself, anderson.
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the 17 million barrels of oil for the world that flow through there every day. the thinking is it's a major reason the iranians won't shut it down, it would be economic suicide for themselves. they rely on it to get their oil out. the one piece of really substantial leverage the u.s. may have economically are the persian gulf allies that jill was mentioning. they are very quietly talking to the saudis. trying to get the saudis to convince the iranians to take a deep breath. because if you shut down the strait of hormuz, economic suicide for iran. economic suicide for all of those persian gulf countries that rely on the channel to get a lot of their oil out but also for commercial and maritime shipping. >> commander lippold, appreciate your time and expertise. jill dougherty, barbara starr, thank you. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter. up next, authorities now know where some of these pardoned killers are tonight and one of them is talking
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exclusively to cnn. what he has to say about the uproar coming up. and later, doctors who study to become specialists at one the most prestigious medical centers were cheating on the big exam. the cheating was not only common, they say, but encouraged. we investigate on that. he's a prime suspect in natalee holloway's disappearance but it was another woman's death that put him behind bars. he was sentenced in peru today. we'll tell you what he got when "360" continues. cut. cut! [ monica ] i thought we'd be on location for 3 days -- it's been 3 weeks. so i had to pick up some more things. good thing i've got the citi simplicity card. i don't get hit with a fee if i'm late with a payment... which is good because on this job, no! bigger! [ monica ] i may not be home for a while. [ male announcer ] the new citi simplicity card. no late fees. no penalty rate. no worries.
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freed with full pardoned by departing governor haley barbour. keeping them honest, did the governor disregard procedure, as well as his own state's constitution, in setting them free? any way you look at it, it has turned into a real mess. the freed killers are joseph osment, charles hooker and david gatlin and anthony mccray. caught up with him at a relative's home in missouri. >> everyone deserves a second chance. >> do you think people should be angry at governor barbour? >> no, sir. he treated us like we his children. >> you'll hear more of that exclusive interview when martin savidge join us. he tracked down mccray. mccray since his wife's killing was accidental. the judge who tried his case says otherwise. there's no dispute about what one of the other pardoned killers did to his estranged
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wife. >> i fired the first gunshot. he stepped up to tammy with her holding that baby in a cradled position and shot her with that baby's head no more than 8 inches from where he shot her, just real close. came to the edge of the bed. i turned my head sideways. he shot me in the side. that probably saved my life. >> he lives in fear gatlin will try to finish what he started. governor barbour granted pardons to more than 200 convicts overall. the vast majority were on parole already. a court blocked their release because there is reason to believe some prisoners didn't follow the right procedures. inmates seeking pardons have to run notices in local papers for 30 days. anthony mccray says he didn't run any notices and the mississippi attorney general says the governor didn't do what
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he was supposed to do, make sure the proper procedures were being followed, including by the inmates. we spoke to the attorney general on wednesday. >> former governor barbour, he kind of ran the state and the governor's office like boss hog. he didn't follow the law. governor barbour didn't follow it. it's clear he had to have this information. he didn't obtain it. that's caused a public safety issue. these families are afraid out here. these victims have been through a terrible amount. it's a slap in the face to all in the state of mississippi. >> we asked the governor to come on the program. he declined. all four killers worked in the governor's mansion under the prison's trustee program. governor barbour knew them all. we wanted to know whether he thinks he followed the right procedures. his people initially said he was busy. when we reached out again today, we got no reply at all.
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he did, however, go on fox. >> the reason they work at the mansion is the experts in correction say people who commit a crime of passion, a murder, a crime of passion, are the least likely to ever commit another crime. when my grandchildren are over at the governor's mansion, we trust them to play with and to be looked out for by these people. if i trusted them to be around my grandchildren, i think that makines a pretty plain statemen >> joining us now with the latest is martin savidge. first, how were you able to find mr. mccray? >> actually, we had gone into that area, that neighborhood, to do a profile on jennifer mccray. that's the woman who anthony mccray had killed, his wife. we wanted to talk to the victim's family to find out what they thought of this pardon and what they thought about the governor's pardoning process. in doing that, we found out, somebody said, you know what, mccray's actually in the
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neighborhood. we went and checked and being nono knocked on the door and sure enough he was there. it took asking the right questions to the right people. >> he was in prison for murdering his wife. you asked him about that. what did he tell you? >> well, when you ask him about it, he'll tell you it was all an accident. i'll talk about that later but listen -- did you mean to kill jennifer? >> no, i didn't. we were tussling over the gun. .25 automatic went off. >> she was shot in the back. >> it went straight through. we were tussling the gun. we were up so close. tussling the gun. went off. >> she started struggling with the gun? >> yes. the table -- knocked over. the trailer -- i turn myself in. and everything. >> when the gun went off and she goes down? >> no, she said -- she was talking to me. >> what was she saying?
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>> she was saying anthony. she says anthony. i didn't know she was shot. >> you didn't hear the gun go off? >> it went off but i didn't know she was shot. i thought it shot in the floor. i didn't even know she was shot. because she still was talking. said anthony. like that. >> then she died. >> then she fell. oh, man. like that. you know? i said, somebody call the police. call the ambulance. by that time, i went and turned myself in. >> that is a total fabrication. all witnesses maintain one thing, that there was an argument, that anthony mccray left, came back with a gun, shot his wife in the back. we talked to the judge in the case. he says that anthony mccray stood in the courtroom, stood and looked the judge in the face and admitted to killing his wife. that's not the way it happened. the important thing to note here, anderson, is that this is
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the same man who was able -- talked to the governor and basically say this is what happened when, in fact, it's a fabrication and apparently the governor bought it. >> it's fascinating to hear governor barbour talk about these are crimes of passion. my dad was from mississippi and wrote a book about growing up in mississippi. on a book tour, we got to stay in the governor's mansion one night. i was 7 years old or something. in the mid-'70s. back then they had the exact same thing. i remember my dad saying all the guys who work here are convicted of -- they're murderers but they're convicted of crimes of passion. there is this notion in mississippi that it's a crime of passion, therefore, you're not likely to do something again. that seems to be what's behind the idea of pardoning these individuals. >> it's incredibly naive. the account you heard from the governor is ridiculous. he says, look, you can't trust the robbers apparently but the person you can trust is the man who kills. i mean, that is just an
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outlandish statement. on top of that is you have to realize of course these prisoners, of course they're going to be on their best behavior. they get to chat up the governor every day. that was admitted by anthony. talk to the governor every day. make their point. show how pleasant, how good, how reformed they are. this is the man who holds their fate in his hands. of course they're going to be on their best behavior. anthony mccray said this, once you got into the governor's mansion, it was pretty assured you were going to be set free. in fact, he said, it was tradition. >> it's unbelievable. for folks who maybe aren't from mississippi, you know, they're surprised by this. i'm not that surprised by it. it's incredible so many have been released. clearly without following the proper procedure. great reporting, thank you. let's dig deeper now. mississippi democratic state representative david barea. also senior analyst jeffrey toobin. you actually introduced legislation back a couple years
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ago that would change the way pardons happen in the state of mississippi. >> that's right, anderson. in 2008 when the governor commuting the sentence of mr. graham who killed adrian in cold blood while she was stopped at a stop light in mississippi, we decided to change the way pardons are granted. but ever so slightly really. we just wanted to make sure that the victims of the crime and the family members of the victims and the law enforcement personnel who worked so hard to put these folks behind bars had an opportunity to be heard prior to the pardon being granted. and that -- so i've tried to pass a bill that would allow for that here. and for results of the hearing to be commute dated to the governor prior to the granting of a pardon and i was unsuccessful in doing that. >> how have your constituents reacted to the news of the recent pardons? >> not only my constituents but everybody i come in contact with on a daily basis, folks from all over the state are all reacting similarly with equal measures of
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shock and revulsion. you know, just the sheer number of pardons is astounding. >> we had the attorney general on the program. he pointed out that under the constitution in mississippi, you have to public 30 days in advance in a local newspaper where the crime happened or in an adjacent jurisdiction the fact this pardon has been applied for. it seems like that was not done. >> that's why the judge issued a temporary restraining order, saying release no one else, till we assure this very unusual provision, this notice provision, has been followed. it seemed almost certain to me. i know the jackson newspaper has said that there was no publication for any of the four murderer es from the governor's mansion so it seems almost certain they'll be returned to prison. can we just discussion the sexism at the heart of what hailley barbour said, the idea
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that crimes of passion, when you kill your wife, it's somehow less bad, less dangerous, then when you kill a stranger. >> i remember hearing this as a kid and, you know, it was totally accepted. that because it was a passionate act. the idea there's a passionate act is also kind of weird. it wasn't this person was a bad person, they just got caught up in the passion of it all. >> one of the things they have fought for so long is to say you know what, it's not the old mississippi anymore. mississippi has changed. undoubtedly that is true. haley barbour's comments today suggest that at leetast the long-term governor hasn't changed that much. >> you plan to introduce three new bills on monday regarding these pardons. what are you hoping to achieve? >> first of all, the notice provision in our antiquated constitution is completely --
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providing any notice. my idea is to provide direct notice, actual notice to the district attorney attorney for a hearing so victims and law enforcement personnel can actually be heard. the other two things i want to do is i want to eliminate the ability for any convicted murderer, because apparently that has become a path to a pardon. i would like to amend our constitution so no governor can grant a pardon in the last 90 days of his or her term. i think that will be effective at stopping this en masse pardon, while the governor's on the way out the door. >> thank you, representative. appreciate it. up next, some big surprises in the republican race for south carolina, including which candidate makes an unexpected run for the lead. some new polling and our panel coming up. also tonight, a cnn investigation on a widespread practice among young doctors. you're not going to believe this. training to be radiologists, how they study for their exams to
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speaker gingrich today literally laughing at governor romney. >> he has a new ad out today that basically says he created thousands of jobs at bain, not $100,000. do you think he misstated the facts? >> of course he did. you know he did. >> are you saying he lied? >> i'm saying he misstated the facts. clearly misstated the facts. "the washington post" gave him three po knockos. >> speaker gingrich called them to either edit the ad or take it off the air. democratic strategist paul begala. republican strategist. you saw the numbers. romney 29. race has tightened a bit toward the end. are these numbers to strike fear in the heart of team romney?
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>> i think not. if i were advising romney, i'd say you know, so far, good. if he hangs on, he doesn't have to win in being south carolina. the only person who ever ran the table was al gore. so i think he's actually in this poll in pretty strong shape. i would worry a lot more about the lasting attacks on his record as a vulture capitalist because a lot of republicans seem to agree with those attacks. >> is it a lot of republicans are worried about it? it seems like it was perry using that term and his backers backing away from him. >> both newt and perry have. it is imperative for mitt to not let paul begala and his cronies define free market entrepreneurship. private equity is superior to public equity. his version of crony capitalism.
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i think that poll is off. i think it does not show at all what the other polls show, what i hear from people on the ground, i think santorum is actually the only candidate moving. newt has stopped the bleeding. but paul is right about romney just needs to be respectable here, and then he lost, he came in fourth last time with 15% or something so he's better than he was, but he should be watching santorum. >> erick, is that what you're hearing on the ground as well about santorum? also, do you think this attack using bain capital, do you think it's been successful on romney in south carolina? >> i absolutely think the bain capital attacks have been successful on romney. not necessarily because of the way newt or rick perry went after at attacks but raising the attacks. and now we're starting to realize what's unknown about his time at bain capital. saying no one really knows.
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this is what he's running on and we don't know. we can't justify or sustain the jobs claims he's running on. raising these attacks now i think ultimately might help him be able to deal with them early. he's losing steam rapidly in south carolina. his supporters are going elsewhere. it changes day to day. i would point out romney -- i don't know -- he's been in florida, his super pac, they're running a lot of ads in florida. they're already getting ready while the other guys are just getting on the field in south carolina. >> mistake for romney to be making this jobs claim? had he made the claim that, you know, we made a lot of money, that would be something which is obvious and that's what private equity firms are about. if you invest in a private equity firm, you're investing because you think it's going to give you a bigger return on your investment than anything else.
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>> right. i think that's where romney made a huge mistake. he tried to pretend his experience was something that it wasn't. what's different about romney's business experience is not -- he's just dishonest when he describes it. some businesses succeed. i think voters get that. what they are bothered by is when he makes money even when the business fails. when he makes money even when he lays people off. even when he's cutting benefits and jobs. erick talked about brian york who is a conservative writer. it's, in fact, about a very wealthy man enriching himself while laying off middle class. >> james carville last night -- i don't think i've ever seen him glow quite so much, being able to use sarah palin's argument in favor of his own argument. which was sarah palin saying there should be transparency, romney should release his tax returns. >> anderson, james has had a
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longtime crush on sarah, which he carried for michele bachmann and now he's back to this br brunette. we're conflating private equity where the investors make nothing if the things collapse with all the larger issues. he has to defend and explain bain. and what he did there. and his claims he created jobs. he has to defend the free market system. make a case for the free market system. which is in direct contrast with obama's philosophy. the reason i keep coming back to santorum is while all this is flying around and we're making fun of each other's french and all of that, santorum keeps making a steady connection between growing government and a deflating economy and the cultural degradation that
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another keeping them honest report tonight in medicine. the term board certified shows the doctor has passed an area of expertise. to diagnosis if you have a serious disease. to get board certified, radiologists pass a series of tests during their residency. a cnn investigation has found many doctors take short cuts along the way by getting exam questions from doctors who already took the test. there's even a name for it. recalls. because the doctors men rise moe questions and then write them down. here's special investigations unit correspondent drew griffin. >> this is absolute definitive
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cheating. >> reporter: dr. matthew webb is a 31-year-old army doctors accepted into one of the military's largest radiology resident programs. a program around the brook army medical center where webb trained as a resident. it wasn't long before he was stunned to learn an open secret about most of his fellow doctors. they were, he says, cheating to pass medical exams. >> it wasn't till i took my physics exam that i found out that the way the residents were studying for the exam was to study from verbatim recalled back tests that had been performed by prior residents. >> reporter: to become certified by the american board of radiology or abr doctors must pass two written exams and an oral exam. webb says he took the first exam in the fall of 2008.
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to his surprise, he failed that first test which focuses on physics. he says he went to the director of the radiology program at the time. >> he told me that if you want to pass the abr physics exam, you absolutely have to use the recalls. and i told him, sir, i believe that's cheating. i don't believe in doing that. i can do it on my own. he then went on to tell me, you have to use the recalls. almost as if it was a direct order. >> reporter: an order easily fulfilled. webb found the recalls, the tests, almost verbatim, on the military's website for the radiology residents. cnn has obtained all of these tests. at least 15 years of recalls stored on the military's shared computer network. the test questions. the answers. even presented as a power point. cultivated from years of residents taking tests,
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recalling the questions, and adding them to what appears to be an ever growing database of glorified cheat sheets. right now, about half of the written test questions are the same every year. >> residents knew about the recalls. the program directors knew about the recalls. a large portion of people were using them. it was just accepted. >> reporter: that bothered webb. not only was this cheating, this was the army. he says his supervisors in uniform didn't seem to care. webb took his complaint of cheating to the very board that certifies radiologists. dr. gary becker is the american board of radiology's executive director. isn't it cheating? >> we would call it cheating. our exam security policy would call it cheating. >> reporter: we showed becker copies of the recall exams from the military's san antonio program.
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very close to the actual test. >> outraged by this. we took this case to our professionalism committee. the result of a deliberation, there and the decision of the board was to go directly back to the training director, the dean of the institution, and we've had those discussions. >> reporter: dr. webb, the complainant, he told us to find out some don't have the knowledge but to get through by cheating, it's despicable. do you agree with it? >> i agree. i agree. now, i can say we don't have a -- more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from residents. but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: in fact, we did track down information on other programs at the radiological society of north america convention in chicago. where residents told us recall use is wide spread. not just at the army program in
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san antonio but at programs across the country, including prestigious ones like harvard's teaching hospital massachusetts general. the chief of radiology there says he didn't know personally of anyone using the recalls but also says we did not officially sanction oreg organize the recalls. do you think it's a big deal? >> yes, recalls are cheating and it's inappropriate. >> reporter: dr. james borgstede is president-elect of the abr. the organization is now cracking down on the use of recalls and is changing its test procedures which were already under way. >> our mission to the public is to say that your certified radiologist has kdemonstrated te requisite skills to practice on the public. >> reporter: that's what dr. webb thought too. which is why he says he exposed the recalls. in the meantime, he's had other serious trouble. he was fired from the radiology
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program after something unrelated to the recalls. help was reprimanded by the army for making sexual comments to another doctor. and for other conduct unbecoming an officer. webb calls it a personality dispute that escalated. while he remains an army doctor, he fears his military career is in jeopardy. >> drew, this is unbelievable. i had no idea about this. the fact that it seems so accepted among, you know, many, many years of radiologists. did the military retaliate against this guy for ek spooing o speaking out? >> the military says absolutely no, no retaliation against dr. webb for talking to us. they do wish he had asked permission or advised them in advance. you should read some comments on the website. the responses are wild. a lot of doctors, we don't know who they are of course, saying, hey, there's nothing wrong with
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this, we all do it. >> doctors saying they all do it. does the military -- does the military say this is cheating? cou do they admit this happened? >> they absolutely admit this happened. we did get a statement from them saying residents shared exam questions in the past. the military does not encourage or condone cheating of any kind. but listen, the military admitted some faculty members and program directors were aware of the use of recalled examination questions by residents. in fact, anderson this is what the military says, a smaller number of faculty, and a past program leader, encouraged the use of recall questions as one of several tools to increase medical knowledge and prepare for that exam. the military says they've removed these from computers and residents now have to sign a statement they won't use them. >> what's the radiology board doing about this now? >> the radiology board insists just because doctors used
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recall, cheated, doesn't mean they're unqualified because they did have to pass an oral exam. the entire test is being revamped. two written exams. they can use a lot more imagery. so the future use of recalls will be very difficult, they say. residents say it's just going to be a matter of time before those, too, can be compromised. >> the fact that they -- it's not even just like one person doing this or doing this year-to-year. the fact they stored all these years worth of recalls so that you could look at multiple years worth, i mean, i don't know, i just find that amazing. >> remember this is not like past tests that have now been published -- this is actually a concentrated effort to remember the questions, to come out, to write them down, verbatim, so you can create this kind of cheat sheet. remember that some of this is a result of the abr not changing its test year after year because 50% of the questions are the same. >> that's another ridiculous thing, yeah. drew, appreciate it. catch more of drew's investigation tomorrow night in
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i wanted to show you my interview with haiti's president tonight but because of breaking news we couldn't do it. i talked to him in haiti. it's a really interesting conversation. you can watch the interview online. let's check in right now with eye sha ses say. she's here in the studio. >> thank you for having me in your very cold studio. a syrian opposition group and the free syria army have joined forces. that led to big demonstrations in the streets with calls for the end of president assad's regime but there's no sign the violence will end. at least 11 civilians were killed in syria today including three chirpldren according to a opposition group. john edwards has a life threatening heart condition and got a delay in his criminal corruption trial till at least late march. that's according to a source quoting a federal judge. edwards will undergo surgery next month for the heart
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problem. 28 years in prison in peru. that's the sentence for joran van der sloot after he pleaded guilty to killing 21-year-old stephany flores in a lima hotel room nearly two years ago. van der sloot remains the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of alabama teenager natalee holloway in aruba. standard & poor's has downgraded the debt of several european nations. for the first time in 150 years, the world is getting a new look at the old confederate submarine. a massive trust supporting the sub since it was recovered more than a decade ago has now been removed. the submarine was lost at sea in 1864 killing eight crew members. the thing is when it was built from the reading i've been doing it had cutting-edge technology for its time but they don't know why it sank. >> i want to refresh your memory about a couple things.
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back in september we had a little back and forth, a little tet-a-tet if you will, and you read a story about a great american character. let's watch. >> and a 360 follow. gumby has surrendered. he was last seen trying to rob a san diego 7 eleven. today, jacob and his getaway driver, both 19, turn themselves in. no word yet on what, if any, charges will be filed. anderson, as the foreigner in the strange lands, who or what is gumby. >> you don't know who gumby is. we'll have more on gumby in a moment. and this from two days ago. this is a pattern. watch. >> filed for bankruptcy 11 protection but it will continue to make twinkies, ding dongs and other snacks. i have no idea what any of those
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things are. >> really? never had a ding dong? >> no, i've never had a ho ho or a ding-dong. i'm not missing out. >> oh, yes, you are. so we have some surprises in honor of your birthday. happy birthday. and look who's here. look who's bringing you -- oh, my god. wow. it's gumby, damn it. wow, gumby, thank you. >> thank you so much. you're way more attractive shall i say in real life. thank you. and high five. >> so that's gumby. >> this is the weirdest birthday gift i have ever received. >> well, gumby was upset you didn't know who he was. >> thank you, gumby. i feel i am complete now. >> these are -- so you've got to open up and have a ring ding or -- gumby, yeah. >> hey, gumby.
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>> so these are ring dings. i want to see you have your first twinkie. have you never really had a twinkie? >> seriously, i've never had a twinkie. the only reference -- it's very, very odd. >> these things can, like, survive a nuclear armageddon. >> i've been told they never expire. my thing is should you ever eat anything that will never go bad? >> yes, you should. >> do i really have to -- are you -- >> uh-huh. >> okay. this is a -- >> how you like that? don't say it till you've had a ring dong, a ring ding. try a ring ding. >> you can put wallpaper up with the stuff inside of there. >> oh, you have to try a yodel too. >> i feel like i'm being force fed. >> okay, that's really gross. which one's this? >> this is the ring ding. i'll give you a yodel too.
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>> wow. a sugar high or something? i'd rather just have jewelry or shoes or something. >> gumby likes to see anybody eating sugar. >> this isn't bad. >> this is ring dings. the yodels were my favorite as a kid. >> and this this is the -- >> gumby's putting the ring ding in his nose. >> and this is the? >> this is the yodel. i haven't had a yodel in years. >> why are -- really funky consistencies. >> 'cause it has to last a long time. so isha, thank you very much for -- >> thank you. >> for all you do and happy birthday. >> thank you. >> gumby -- gumby and are i going out for a drink later on. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about the personal attention
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time now for the riduculist. tonight, a little combo platter. calling it restaurant wars. we begin at a swanky private dining club in palm beach, florida, where ceo was apparently displeased with the service. he did what anybody would do. leaves less than a 15% tip, you say? not that. asked to speak to a manager?
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no, 76-year-old ceo allegedly broke the waiter's finger. allegedly. that's what the waiter says. why would he do that? he was reportedly upset because the waiter brought the check. club members are normally billed monthly. the police report says the ceo's wife asked for the check. and then proceeded to grab the waiter's hand, squeeze and twist his fingers. the next morning, the waiter went for an x-ray. i'm guessing he's letting his fingers that aren't broken do the walking through the yellow pages to the legal counsel section. maybe he might want to dine at home sans waiters for a while. at leetast he didn't go all "go fellas" on him. >> what, where's my [ bleep ] drink, i asked you for a drink. i just asked you for a [ bleep ] drink. >> i thought you said -- >> no, no.
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go get me a [ bleep ] drink. move it, you little [ bleep ] [ gunshots ] now he's moving. >> yeah, so congratulations, john castle, you're second only to joe pesci in "good fellas" as far as taking the customer is always right thing too far, if the reports are true. this isn't the only dissatisfied diner story. let's jet on down to a restaurant in atlanta called bonner's barbecue. yeah. that's where a woman named stephanie took her husband for his birthday dinner. stephanie was not thrilled with the restaurant and posted an online review on yelp calling the foot various adjectives including tepid, bland and odd. the guy would owns b s boner's barbecue was not pleased. >> the owner posted a message on social media to other restaurant owners saying, if you see this woman in your restaurant, tell her to go outside and play
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