>> and as jessica has pointed out, those numbers are in some dispute. the state department doesn't call it 20,000 jobs. some people say it could be as few as 2500 direct jobs. the bottom line is we don't question there will be some direct jobs in belting this. the issue is indirect jobs. do you go from the current capacity which is about 60,000 barrels a day coming out of canada to about 300,000 barrels a day. the deal, though, is not the jobs, it's the oil capacity. the fact we get most of our oil from canada in the united states, and that oil has to go somewhere. the chinese in particular, if they don't end up going down south in the united states, the chinese would be very happy to build one, so you'll still get about 80,000 barrels coming into that pipeline each day. but from the top of that

pipeline which starts in alberta, imagine going right and left, and obviously the environmental concerns. >> and just to be clear, and perhaps we don't even know the answer to this yet, it's just a done deal in terms of an out and out service of this document, the administration from the state department really taking the lead on this, or is this a, quote, unquote, delay? >> the nation has made it clear they don't necessarily object to the pipeline, they object to the timeline in which they've been forced to make a decision. they said given more time, this is something that potentially could be approved. but the bottom line is that there have been -- they feel they've been forced to make a decision in an unrealistic time period and they're not going to do it because of the potential fallout. now, brooke, it's not necessarily done because congress still has proposed

other work-arnounds and republicans in congress could still play different cards and try to force a decision in other ways, or they could make this happen in other ways, and we'll see how that gets played out. as they say, it's become a political football. >> ally, what's your side? >> the number of jobs being created versus the danger of any oil spilling out of a pipeline, we have made remarkable technological advances in how to treat oil and how to clean it up, especially since the gulf spill. so there is a middle ground which would be better for all to get involved in, but as we know through issues that become political. this is something that should happen and they've taken a long time too look at it.

. >> speaking of issues becoming political, we have candidates on the south carolina trail, right? we're already hearing from the former speaker of the house, newt gingrich. here's what he said on this keystone pipeline decision. >> the president has apparently vetoed the keystone pipeline. now, this is a stunningly -- i tried that on myself, it doesn't work -- this is a stunningly stupid thing to do. [ cheering ] >> obama's decision is stupid on three grounds. there is no better word for it. these people are so out of touch with reality, it's as bad as

having governing horns. stupidity number one, we need the jobs. maybe when they're unemployed in november, they'll figure out jobs matter. [ applause ] >> we should point out that was newt gingrich pretty recently this afternoon speaking on the campaign trail in south carolina soon after jessica yellin broke the news we would be hearing the decision, but they will be rejecting this pipeline. please stand by as we're anticipating that news out of the white house, or actually, straight out of the state department today, and as we mentioned, we'll be hearing from the republican house leadership at 3:15 eastern. so stay tuned for that. meantime, top of the hour, watch this. unfolding right now, questions about why the italian cruise ship captain is out of jail.

a day without the web. sort of. > matthew, we're beginning with you in meta, italy. matthew? >> this is the pretty coastal town of meta near sorento where the costa concordia's captain has been placed on house arrest with charges of abandoning ship and manslaughter. he was let o-- put behind bars after what was heard on the black box. in his hometown, there is sympathy for the captain's plight. >> he is a good father, good husband, of course. as a captain, i haven't had the pleasure. >> they're a great family.

he's a great person. they have a great daughter. great people. >> well, this is the narrow little street where captain schittino lives. in fact, it's this door over here where he's actually in house arrest. you can see the bell has his name on it. but if you ring it, there's no answer. it seems that the captain who sailed his ship onto the rocks that got himself to safety is, for the moment, staying out of sight. >> in meta, italy. we' amber is in los angeles. several sites used are blacked out today. why are they shut down and what do they hope to prove? >> there's something going through administration that they believe could give the u.s. government the power to sensor these web sites. they're trying to show internet users what this could look like

if sop a&p -- sorks p ark -- so went through today. an aide told cnn that they believe this protest has been so intense that the senate may not even vote to take up pippa which, of course frks had bipartisan support. we're also seeing hundreds of web sites, blogs, social media users black out the internet today, brooke. >> you and i were just talking recently about your piece on unanimous that aired this weekend about hacker collected. i know it's anonymous shutting down the web sites, right, but they do it illegally.

have you talked to unans? how do they feel about it. >> i talked to several unans. they say they're very pleased with all of the support. there was some thought that some of these unans would virtually go after supporters of sop a&p ipa. we have not seen that but the day is still young, and these inans tell us they're going to fight this out until the legislation appears. there is a lot of gray area among these ideals, but that is how much an internet user detests those for censorship. you look at the other side, the other side says this is protecting. you have jobs, brooke. thank you. chris is live at the

pentagon. it sounds like he did express a little optimism today. >> he said there's still a possibility of a diplomatic solution with iran. he was -- received a letter from president obama requesting different talks. secretary bo net ta did not -- what was said, but he did say the door to diplomacy, as far as he's concerned. . i'm red did and willing to chuz, that the president doesn't find funny. these toy droenz being sent. it certainly not a be lated

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chief white house correspondent jessica young will break the news, which is what, jess? >> the state department has issued a statement saying they are officially deciding they will not approve the move for the pipeline, essentially because they do not feel they have the adequate time in a 60-day window to make a decision, and that this does not, in their opinion, preclude another permit application. in other words, given more time, they could approve this over -- they could approve a permit in the future. so they could have another shot at this down the line. let me talk just a moment about the politics of this, brooke, and why the administration would do this now. it's generally my sense from sources i've spoken to that democrats feel they have taken a

hit for this already when they delayed a decision back in the fall. and so making this announcement now or a few -- you know, a month from now doesn't really change their politics. gas prices will not go up as a result of delaying this because there is no oil flowing through it right now, anyway. the number of jobs, as ally was discussing, is up for debate. 2,500 versus 20,000, it depend who you want to source. there are a lot of communities along that route who have objected to it, and it doesn't necessarily break down among republican-democratic lines. in their view, it depends where you live whether you object to it or not. a lot of young people object to it, and young people are an important constituency for the president in election year. in other words, take the hit on it now, get it, and move on to other issues and other politics after tuesday. >> sure, and i'm glad you did point out, of course, obviously

the role in politics and this year is supposedly playing in this whole issue. i do want to point out we should be hearing from the republican side like speaker boehner, eric canter. their argument so far that i've read is that this would create jobs, and there's live pictures of the room. we will be taking that live. as you point out, you, as well, all these different sort of wild numbers when it comes to the jobs created, but ally, i want to ask you specifically, you're canadian and you know more about oil sands, probably, than those folks, and i read about the negative in these environmental groups and i remember darrell hannah getting arrested from these protests. what do you think? >> it's really a sight to see. there are two environmental issues here. the one that a lot of people think it is is that they could pump oil through the pipe lines. the pipe lines could and has

leaked in the past and it could go through the aquifer. we already established going through the aquifer is not a good idea. they were going to reroute it, anyway. but we pipe oil all over the place. the real underlying protest here, which is what darrell hannah. it's called oil sand. the sand is muddy with oil. you have to boil water using hydrogen and basically melt the oil out of the sand. that uses a lot of energy and is traditionally more polluting than digging a holy straight in the ground and seeing with that. but that be be overcome through nolg and all sorts of things and playing the pipeline in less dangerous areas or less

sensitive areas. the issue is we are buying what a lot of americans think are dirty types of oil from canada, and that's what has people annoyed. i just want to reach over here for a second, brooke. i want to show it to you because i've got a bottle that i brought up when i was in canada. >> do you keep this stuff on your desk? >> i clearly haven't had need to open it for some time, but basically here it is. this is oil sand. i don't know how well you can see this, but basically i can crumble it, and it's sand, and it basically looks like you're holding tar. you have to get the oil out of this. if you smell it, it's oil. what happens it when you process it, it gets put in these different constituent elements. this one here looks like crude oil. you do all this work and then find it, and that's what you normally get. providing this gunk into this little area is what we call

polluting. >> we had daryl hannah on the show and she pointed out all those incidents in pipelines with leaks, spills. are these as bad as some of these groups make out? >> it depends where you come from. if you were in the gulf of mexico as you and i were when the oil spill happened, that was the worst thing that happened in the time you've lived there. many they haven't done the worst job saying, we'd like to hear any spill from you. we are big consumers of oil, we import most of our oil. most of it comes from canada and other people are willing to buy that canadian oil, particularly the chinese. from a buyer's perspective, it may not be the best idea to say, we're not building the pipeline

extension. >> i want to go back to you in a final thought. it says not to serve the national interests. that is a dwernetermination as now. final thought to you. >> the president himself has put out a statement now, and if i could reed that quickly. he has now said he believes it was the russian arbitrary deadline insisted on by congressional republicans that prevented a full assessment of the pipeline addict. >> he said, he's disappointed. he's but they're going to find other ways to improve the domestic oil and natural gas production. both of those are up in his administration. we'll continue to cover this. we have more coming up later on roman. >> you're speaking of republicans in congress. here we go, speaker john

boehner. let's listen. >> first i was given the authority to block this project only, and only if, he believes it's not in the national interest of the united states. is it not in the national interest to create tens of thousands of jobs here in america with private investment? is it not in the national interest to get energy resources from an outlying like canada as opposed to some countries in the middle east? the president says he'll do anything he can to create jobs. today that promise was broken. the president expedited the approval of the sylindra loan project, but won't approve a project that's been on for three years. the energy pipeline projects like this one can create hundreds of thousands of

american jobs. the unions support it, the states along the proposed route support it, and it has bipartisan support here in the congress of the united states. and yes, the president decided to reject it, anyway. the president won't stand up to his political base, even in the interest of creating jobs. now we'll have to look to other places like china. the president's policies are making the american economy worse rather than better. and this latest decision is just but the latest example. i'll just say this. this is not the end of the fight. republicans in congress will continue to push this because it's good for our country and it's good for our economy, and it's good for the american people, especially those who are looking for work.

>> thank you, mr. speaker. tim griffin, arkansas. today president obama -- >> what you just heard, a fiery speaker john boehner essentially disagreeing. the fight is not over. this would have created countless jobs for americans who very much so need them. our unemployment rate still sitting at 8.5%. let me know what you think about this whole debate. send me a tweet at brookeb@cnn. more news for you on the other side of the break. usband a falcon? thanks for the falcon. i didn't buy anyone a falcon. sure, you did. you saved us a lot of money on auto insurance. i used that money to buy a falcon. ergo, you bought me a falcon. i should've got a falcon. most people who switch to state farm save on average about $480. what they do with it, well, that's their business. oh, that explains a lot, actually. [ chuckles ] [ male announcer ] another reason people switch to state farm. aw, i could've got a falcon. [ male announcer ] get to a better state. [ falcon screeches ]

i want to take you back to a case we covered pretty extensively just last month.

a crime police called calculated, the kidnap and murder of a toddler in georgia. we're learning how calculated this murder was. a 20-year-old maintenance man has just pleaded guilty to murdering this little girl. her family is watching as ryan grun told the judge in graphic te dale how he lured their little girl into an empty apartment with a photographic of her missing roller skate. >> i was going to lure her in for a sexual conduct with myself here. i never had the idea of killing a child in my life. i was just so terrified and scared that i didn't want her to go home and tell her mom or dad on me. i just cut her. >> didn't want her to tell her mom or dad on me, he says.

he slashed her throat. he describes beating her to death with her missing roller skate and crushing her lifeless body in a nearby trash compactor. he pled guilty in english and then spanish and then he said he was sorry. >> i'd like to apologize for everything i've done and i do deserve everything you're about to give me. sorry. >> what is most clear now about the murder of jorelys rivera is that he is a murderer. i'm sure the words, mark, sorry to this grieving family rings hollow. >> yeah, brooke, this was so calculated. he knew when he lured that young girl into that room that she was going to tell her mother. he knew that he was going to kill her in advance of any of

this. this guy sounds very much like a sexually sadistic psychopath, just as the individual who killed my child, and there is no real remorse. putting him away forever is easily the best thing that could happen out of all of this. >> mark, i want to play just a little bit more of this -- actually, this is part of the confession. this is when braun said he actually found one of rivera's roller skates when he was cleaning out one of the apartment buildings when he decide to do lure this seven-year-old. take a listen. >> i photographed it on my phone and showed it to her and asked her if it was hers. >> what, the skate? >> yes, sir. >> go ahead. >> and i told her to come with me and i'll get it for her. and she came. >> so, again, as you point out, does this again sound to you like typical predator behavior? and if so, how? >> well, it's a variation on a

theme. it's the lure theme. it's the come help me find my puppy, i can make you famous, do you want a cookie? predators use it across the board, and it's very, very effective in moving children into these situations that they're unable to get themselves out of. >> so when you hear this typical lure tactic, what can you tell other parents -- sadly, tragedies like these give us opportunities to talk to parents and tell them, what do you tell your child so they do not -- they don't fall victim? >> absolutely. these are very good points. first of all, people have to understand that the vast majority of citizens would never do anything to harm a child. even men would go well out of their way to do something to try to help a child in need. but having said that, there are some rules that need to be followed, and it's not really about stranger danger, because the vast majority of

victimizations are perpetrated by somebody that the victim already knows. so what needs to happen is children need to tell their parents where they're going to be at all times, that when they're outside, certainly, they should be with at least one other person. that they should trust their feelings, their instinct. if something feels bad, then it is bad, and they must put distance between themselves and whatever that is. then they must realize that they can go to other adults, even strangers, to help them in difficult situations. they can always go to a woman. they can go to other kids. they can go to police officers or firefighters in uniform. in a retail situation, they can go to store clerks or they can go to security guards. and, truly, almost any man will help them out of a difficult situation. there are also technological solutions to this. every child over 10 should have their own cell phone so that they can have that 24/7 connection with the child even

when the child is not with them. gps devices -- i'm sorry -- >> because you can track the child. >> go on. sure, gps devices are another solution. you can bread crumb your child, you can also get smartphone applications that will show you where predators are within your community. so there are ways to keep your children safe in our society, and we shouldn't have to worry too much, that every person we're going to see is going to be like this particular monster, because they just are not. >> he is a monster. that's a perfect way to explain it. hopefully if we at least reach one parent with this conversation, i feel like we've done our job. mark klaas, thank you so much. now this. a congressman taking responsibility or taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking credit for the internet. >> mitt romney lashing gingrich on the trail, making headlines acknowledging that he is within

the 15% tax bracket. the republican front runner, though, still hasn't revealed his tax returns, and one person is actually giving him advice. we're live in south carolina within seconds.

mitt romney going on the attack in south carolina not on taxes but on jobs. jimmy costa is live for us in charleston, south carolina for the 2012 update here. you have mitt romney taking on newt gingrich today. his words, i guess, hoping to blur any late jabs gingrich could give.

>> that's absolutely right. what we're starting to see is a tightening here in south carolina. they put out top romney surrogates in the last couple of days -- >> we're listening. >> hey, guys, i'm hearing some sound in my ear of mitt romney. are we playing that right now or am i on the air? >> you're on the air, jimmy costa. keep going. >> all right, i'll keep talking. let me go back to what i was saying. there is a sign that this race is tightening in south carolina. considering what the romney campaign has been the last 24 hours, they've put out some new videos showing their top surrogates going after newt gingrich, and listen to mitt romney going after gingrich this morning in a speech. keep in mind romney spends all of his time going after the president, does not talk about his rivals. that changed in his speech earlier this morning. here's what he had to say. >> the speaker the other day at the debate was talking about how

he created millions of jobs when he was working with the reagan administration. he had been in congress two years when ronald reagan came to office. that would be like saying 435 congress ask we're all responsible for those jobs. government doesn't create jobs, it's the private sector that creates jobs. congress men taking responsibility are taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking credit for the internet. >> not to be outdone, the gingrich campaign is putting a very tough mailer on mitt romney here in south carolina, going after his position in favor of abortion rights, so a tough mailer from the gingrich campaign. and newt gingrich today made some tough comments about mitt romney, saying he expects the romney campaign to play things very dirty over the next several days. he even said this date can't be bought, saying he's counting on people power in the south

carolina primary, saying mitt romney cannot buy this primary. brooke? >> let me take you back to a conversation we had yesterday, the tax returns. we talked about how newt gingrich released his by the primary, and he wants romney to do the same. but now it turns out one of romney's biggest supporters, governor christie, he's come out to offer mitt romney a little advice. what is that? >> that's right, the gingrich campaign is having a field day with this information. earlier today newt gingrich reiterated his support for what he's now calling the mitt romney flat tax. newt gingrich already had a 15% flat tax for all americans, and when mitt romney came out yesterday and said he pays effectively a 15% flat tax on his tax returns, gingrich couldn't resist. one of the top surrogates in this campaign, someone talked about as a potential running

mate, said romney should produce those tax returns. here's >> chrichris christie. >> what i would say is if you have tax returns to put them out, put them out sooner than later, because it's always better to have complete disclosure, and especially when you're the front runner. >> now, gingrich is talking about releasing his own tax returns tomorrow. he already told reporters earlier today when asked this question, because obviously the question was going to be raised, what tax rate do you pay, speaker gingrich, and he said it's around 31%. he said the campaign is going to produce those tax returns tomorrow to prove that. so it will come out tomorrow, which means that this issue will last yet another day. >> we'll be talk with you tomorrow. there's a crowd there in south carolina. coming up, i want you to hear what one judge decided. a pregnant woman with schizophrenia should be bribed into a hospital for an abortion

and then be sterilized. that decision has been turned upside down now. we've got more on that. plus jay-z and beyonce's daughter hasn't even been in the world for two weeks and someone is trying to cash in on her. we'll talk about both of those, next. incorporate your business, file a patent, make a will and more. you can complete our online questions in minutes. then we'll prepare your legal documents and deliver them directly to you. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com, we put the law on your side.

. a legal conflict in massachusetts is showcasing the power, and you could also say, the abusive power of the court system. boston newspapers are reporting a female probate judge ordered a 32-year-old mentally ill woman to undergo an abortion and be sterilized. this appellate judge overturned that decision, noting that the woman being referred to as mary

mo expressed her desire to not have one because she is catholic. according to the boston globe, the woman is schizophrenia, bipolar, and the medication that keeps her stable could hurt her fetus. the woman has had a previous abortion, also has a son who is now in the care of her parents. legal analyst sunny hostin is on the case. sunny, first things first. can a court legally order someone to get an abortion? >> well, you know, interestingly enough, this sort of was the state of the law for many years. it started in about 1907 and ended the practice in about mid-1970s. 33 states did have laws on the books that allowed mentally ill patients to be court-ordered to be involuntarily sterilized. but brooke, i haven't seen something like this since i went to law school because these are cases we study. it just isn't done anymore. so really quite shocking that this judge would order it.

and i think it was said extremely well by the appellate court. the appellate court said the personal decision whether to bear or get a child is a right so fundamental that it must be extended to all persons, including those who are incompetent. and that really is the law of the land right now. so this is just such an anomaly, and really just kind of a legal shocker for those that watch these kinds of cases. >> here's oethe other question that i had which was this medication that this woman takes to keep her mentally clear could harm the fetus. the woman is reportedly five months along. when you have sort of mother versus fetus, whose case do the courts usually favor? >> it's a really difficult question, and typically the courts certainly favor the mother, right? and so until a fetus is viable. but in this case you have a mother that says, i want to keep my child. i don't want to have an abortion, and so medical professionals have to work with her and have to work with the

court system to make sure that both mother and child are okay. but bottom line is, she has made her decision to have this child very, very clear and the court was in no position to force her to have an abortion. >> second case, beyonce and jay-z here. this guy just up and appeared to trademark the name blue ivy carter. reportedly the designer doesn't know them, but he does know what the kid's clothes for beyonce will look like. i guess this is part of his application. can just anyone out of the blue trademark the name of your kid? >> isn't this unbelievable? no, you can't do something like this. and i got to tell you, as a mother myself, i was just so horrified by this. they just had this baby. this baby isn't even a month old

and people are trying to cash in on the baby's name. i checked with the trademark of office in the united states, and' been told that a name identifying a particular living individual cannot be registered as a trademark -- get this -- without written consent. i don't know, brooke, do you think beyonce and jay-z are going to give them consent? >> i'm thinking no. where does this go from here? beyonce and jay-z say, forget about it? >> that's right, a trademark office will bounce this without having written consent, and i don't think, as you just agreed with me, they're going to get it, so this is going to go away, but it's just so sad that this is the state of celebrity in these days. can't you even name your child without someone trying to profit off of it? i just think it's so despicable. >> are we surprised, sunny hostin? no. >> i'm not surprised, but despicable nonetheless, right?

>> absolutely. you get the last word there. it is a fight that could forever change what you share on line and how you surf the web. we're talking movies, music and pictures, quotes, even. some web sites are blocked today over a bill, actually, two bills, one in the house, one in the senate. we've been waiting to speak to the ceo of wikipedia for the better part of the last hour. so far he hasn't shown up for a conversation. but, we will still speak to a voits you haven't yet naerd all of this. this man, form senator chris dodd, forgets the movie mystery of this battle. don't miss this. ♪ in here, machines have a voice... ♪ [ male announcer ] in here, medical history follows you... even when you're away from home. it's the at&t network -- a network of possibilities, creating and integrating solutions, helping business, and the world...work.

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if you have been on line at all today, you have probably noticed something strange. in fact, look at this. it's what wikipedia looks like if you logged on, blacked out. reddit is also down. google has a big black bar over its logo. these are some of the examples, some of the sites today taking part in a day of protest with these two anti-piracy bills in congress and the protect anti-piracy in the senate. many techies feel like this

could lead to widespread censorship in the united states. time warner does support these anti-piracy acts, and i want to introduce chris dosenator dodd,a strong backer of these sites. stopping these web sites, limiting the search results. how can you reassure the public that they won't go too far? >> we've done this already. 14 years ago the congress reportedly overwhelmingly supported the copyright act which allowed them to go to domestic sites which were stealing intellectual property. what happened, not surprisingly, is this criminal elements, in order to avoid the jurisdiction of american courts, have gone offshore. and so they now operate outside

the united states and continue their activity with devastating effect, depriving, that is, the industry i'm in today, 2.2 million go to work every morning, good pensions and good benefits. those jobs are at risk. and these movies and television have been stolen but it is to t. also you're seeing the knockoff products, counterfeit products involving defense products products, medications for elderly people, bulletproof vests, all sorts of things are being stolen by these illegal foreign sites. everyone says they want to shut down these foreign criminals stealing american jobs. the -- let me jump in on that note.

you mentioned, you know, that the laud that was passed many years ago that specifically targets these do mist ink sites, but when you look at this list, polls to sort of changing their minds, so to speak, with they acts, just really in the last 48 hours, in the senate, with these people changing their minds so, my question is, are the bills, at least as it's currently written, are they dead? >> well, i don't know that. people are involved in drafting them and working on them. i know as we speak, people are doing that. we've said all along, this involves a dialogue, a communication between people who have different points of view, but the point is, at a time lime this when jobs, jobs, jobs, that's all we're hearing about, remember this, there are people who are stealing dent and

putting at risk american jobs. our industry, the one i represent today, the 2.2 mill jon jobs are not red carpet jobs. they're a blue collar, industry and business, people behind the cameras, those technicians, the audio people, the makeup people, all these jobs involved in this business. those jobs are being lost "avatar" was stolen 21 million times. "the hurt locker" suffered terribly after the death. "rio" premiered on april 4th, it was in 22 different languages four days later, we're trying to stop these people. >> i understand. a lot of folks agree that that is illegal, but you avowed, sir, you wouldn't become a lobbyist when you left the senate, but you're here lobbying the -- why do you explain that? >> we're talking about a position that's very important. there are all sorts of businesses, 19 million people in this country who work in these

areas, and their jobs are at risk. people every single day go after other products other than film or television. you have the afl-cio, chamber of commerce reporting this, standing up for american jobs at a time when they're going lost with high unemployment rates. let's sit down and try to work it out, it seems to me and put together a bill that people can support. that's the issue, we ought to be doing it, not blacking out web sites. jim,bales, who was supposed to be on the show just about an hour ago, he has not appeared. we would like to hear from you. other tomorrow. just 48 hours after nato began dropping bombs or libya. what happens next which sparks some of the most tense moments of the entire operation, and now

they are actually speaking out this is a cnn exclusive, next.

sgleech let's check in with wolf blitzer, including new poll numbers. >> right at the top of the hour we're going to release our brand-new cnn/"time" magazine mol showing what likely republican voters are thinking here in south carolina, brooke, as well as in florida. we have new numbers in florida as well. stand by for that. some of our viewers might be surprised to see what's going on. also, my special interview, that's coming up in the "the situation room," with newt gingrich. he's closing the gap, supposedly, right now. weaver seeing what's happening the poll numbers, newt gingrich, all the latest on the cruise disaster. a lot more coming up. we'll see you in a couple minutes. thank you, wolf. just -- you may remember two

american pilots crashed, and they haven't been able to talk about their frightening experience until now. barbara starr with a cnn exclusive. >> reporter: the u.s. war over the skies of libya was just two days old when major kennest harney and captain tyler stark got their mission -- conduct air strikes again moammar gadhafi's forces. harney in the front seat, stark in the back. >> this is the big leagues. we'll be flying in combat tonight. >> to me i'm pumped, first time to go out and potentially drop in combat. >> after bombing their target, they turned for home, but suddenly the aircraft is spinning out of control. they are headed for a crash. for the first time ever, harney and stark tell what happened in what would be the most tense hours for the u.s. military in its aid of the nato mission. >> pretty much like when you're driving a car down road, you hit a patch of ice and your car

starts spinning. that's what our aircraft was doing. >> first it was surreal, we are spinning, you this not good, very not good. i called mayday, mayday, mayday. we're in a spin counting down the altitude. >> they bail out and hope they don't lan in the middle of forces. >> i was scared. no doubt in my mind i was terrified. >> reporter: they had landed in separate locations. on the ground harney spends the next three hours on the run, trying to hide and radio his position to u.s. planes overhead. the marines fly in a rescue team, harney wants no mistakes. >> i put my hands up in the air hoping they don't come at me very hostile. at that point i don't care if they put me in cuffs or throw a bag over my head. i know i just want to be on the helicopt helicopter. >> reporter: stark winds up in a field. suddenly two vehicles approach. somebody calls out. >> i hear the voice closer,

american come out, we're here to help. >> lights are shining. >> i get up, put my hands up, walking to the voice and the light. once i get there, my impression is, okay, you have to assume they are the bad guys. and so i approach them thinking, okay, i'm caught. >> reporter: he ace driven to a ne nearby building, very much on his guard. >> there's a half circle of locals. i think one of two ways, this is where the beatings will start or where i'm going to get a lot of help. fortunately i walked in the room and got a round of applause. >> stark can't remember the phone number in england to call for rescue, so he calls his father in libya. >> in the age of cell phones, whose number do you know? my parents. i said, dad, i need you to make a callfo