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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com from the cnn center this is saturday morning. it is saturday, january 28th, by the way, if you need to look at your calendar. so glad to have your company today. i'm christi paul. >> is she breathing normally? >> not the normanormal. but shaking, burning up. >> a barely breathing demi moore was rushed to the hospital. you're going to hear more of that phone call to 911 just ahead. plus, an online game calls attention to the darker side of a custom that's widespread but
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it's illegal in india. players basically get to beat up men looking for a bride. that's coming up in our "morning passport." and a new york sports club is taking on a paula deen controversy. did it go too far though? i know saturday feels good, doesn't it? especially if you get to sit back and relax for a whiechl i hope that's the case for you today. i want to let you know happening right now republican presidential candidate ron paul is gearing up to a bunch of supporters in maine. he's focusing on the caucuses there while his challengers campaign hard in florida. front-runners mitt romney and newt gingrich are in the sunshine state today. rick santorum heading back tonight after a fund-raising washington event. it's reading a lot like the florida weather map. heated. frosty at times. just three days remain, though, before the state's high -stakes
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winner takes all. joining us is peter hamby. what does it look like? >> we have a new ad from the mix of the romney campaign. like you said, it's getting heated. as much as people think romney is sort of in the captain's seat and in a good position to win, they are keeping the gas on -- keeping their foot on the gas against newt gingrich. they have a new ad today basically playing an entire news clip of tom brokaw talking about newt gingrich when he got sanctioned by the house in 1998, just basically reminding voters, hey, this guy is not the person that you want in washington, there's negative ads from romney's super pac supporting mitt romney, accusing gingrich of having too much baggage. basically if you talk to voters in florida, they like newt gingrich's's no holds barred
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approach. they think he'd be tough out there, but they have questions about can he win. they're trying to tap into those doubts and remind people, hey, you might like this guy, but you should vote with your head on tuesday instead of your heart. we're the guy that can actually go up against barack obama and win in november, christi. >> and when you talk about targeting florida, romney has really had both feet in that state for quite a while, and gingrich is kind of playing catch-up at this time, isn't he? >> yeah. you're absolutely right. even during the south carolina primary, even the new hampshire primary, sorry, the romney campaign was running television ads, introducing themselves to voters. you need to be on television in this state. it's absolutely crucial. he's had organization in this state for a long time. the gingrich campaign after the surge they got in south carolina took a while to catch up. the gingrich campaign and the super pac supporting newt gingrich didn't go on television until a couple of days ago.
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so this whole time the romney campaign has been planting seeds in voters' brains of how, hey, again, this guy is not the person you want in washington. and all of those attacks have been going unanswered. if you just watched television here a few days ago, you'd see one, two, three, four, five straight negative ads against newt gingrich. no answer. don't understand estimate the voters, christi. quick programming note i want to let you know about. be sure to join us every sunday afternoon, for a special hour dedicated to the con ternlds in the presidential election. it's at 4:00 eastern. be sure to tune in for an encore republican presidential debate. in case you missed it, it's coming your way at 5:00 p.m. eastern. that british tabloid phone-hacking scandal is back in the news today. police in london are questioning five people, one a police officer, and scouring new evidence seized in morning raids.
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cnn's matthew chance is live in london with the details. matthew, do we have any indication what was seized in those raids? >> the investigations and the searches at the houses of four of those individuals and the newspaper owned by media magnet rupert murdoch is still going on been the metro popolitan police. five have been taken into police custody. four of them have been current staff members of "the sun's" newspaper. it's a tabloid owned by news interactional, of course, the organization run by rupert murdoch and his news corp organization. the other is a police man said to be arrested when he was at work in a central london police station earlier today and charged with corruption, misusing his public office, and with conspiracy. the other individuals have been charged as well.
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so these are very serious crimes they're alleged to have committed. in some ways it rented an escalation of the campaign to try to get to the bottom of the hacking scandal and to the extent that the police and the journalists involved worked together in what essentially were illegal practices, christi. >> how difficult has it been to try to obtain a lot of this information for investigators? >> well, it's historically been, you know, incredibly difficult. this has been a very closed corner of the media, a very close corner of the police work as well, the extent to which the police and journalists cooperate. it's something that obviously takes place very much under the surface behind closed doors. but this incident along with other incidents in this investigation in general really has exposed the extent to which there is corruption in the british police forces, certainly in the metropolitan police, which is based in london. there's collusion with
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journalists to get information and other details of crimes with celebrities and things like that. so to a very large extent this has been damaged not just for the journalism prophysician but the police services as well. >> matthew chance, thanks so much for the update from london. we appreciate it as always. six passengers, meanwhile, who survived the capsizing of the "costa concordia" have filed massive $450 million lawsuit. you probably could have seen this coming, right? the cruise liner ran aground off the coast of italy two weeks ago. the company that owned the ship has offered $14,000 to each of the survivors. an attorney representing the passengers told cnn's erin burnett what he thought of that offer. >> it is an insult, and this was not an incident that could possibly be covered by the ticket -- by the ticket limitations.
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erin, this is an act of horrendous negligence. it was careless disregard for human life and property. this was not covered by any limitations. a woman's body, by the way, was found aboard the partially submerged ship today. so that brings the number of confirmed dead to 17 with out 15 people still missing. well, former penn state assistant football coach jerry sandusky asking a judge to allow him to visit his grand kids. remember, he's accused of child sex abuse and he's out on bail right now, but he's barred from unsupervised visits with his grandchildren. a hearing is scheduled for february 10th. and the hunt is on for a murderer pardoned by former mississippi governor haley barbo barbour. joseph osmund. he's free. there's his picture. the judge has ordered him to appear in court though. since his release, there are no includes as to his washts and authorities are offering rewards for any information leading to
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him. mississippi attorney general jim hood is challenging the validity of that pardon and he wanted to see him and others who were pardoned back in jail. authorities are review security tape after a maul shooting last night in central california. two men we know were wounded and a witness told police there was an argument and one of the men pulled out a gun and opened fire. they were rushed to the hospital. they are expected to survive, which is the good news. but police did evacuate the mall as a precaution at the time. a missouri congressman emanuel claiborne being a hero. he noticed her when he and an aide with driving by. that person said she thought she was going to die. >> she was in a ditch and there may have been people that drove by and didn't see her. i was fortunate to see her, cold. hopefully she's okay if she is. then this was probably nabout te
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best day of my year. >> we do not know yet the woman's condition there. big changes at google. it's revamping its privacy policy. we're going to dig into how it's going to affect you. also, a new york sports club is taking on the paula deen diabetes controversy. here's the big question. did it go too far? ♪[music plays]
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fat. call us if you want to be around to enjoy it. she's revealed she's been living with type 2 diabetes for the last three years and the news sparks debates on her obesity and cooking method methods. deen revealed this at the same time a diabetes drug was made public. we're reaching out to the new york-based gym chain for comment. you know, when you use google to search online, you may be doing it right now, beware because the company is watching your every step. it has a new privacy policy that's going to make your life online not so private. digital lifestyle expert mario armstrong broke down the facts for me a little bit earlier. >> there's been some big changes. the biggest change, besides the privacy policy changing a few days ago is now they're allowing kids, they're allowing the kids under the age of 18 to now use
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google+. it's their social network. it's that answer to facebook. it's place where they can log on and share information, content, photos, and videos with each other. >> what i are they changing the privacy poll sicks and how invasic is it going to be for us? >> it's pretty invasive. when you think about the privacy policy, you're talking about over 117 different products. the idea is this. let's say you do a search on youtube. maybe you're searching for a brand-new ford car. later in the day if you're using g-mail, you may see an ad about that same ford e-mail. they're tracking your moves an they're saying to personalize the experience, to direct thijss that would be more custom fit for you. privacy advocates says, whoa,
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this is tracking too much of what my personal interests are, my behavior, and i don't know what this might lead to and if others could get access to that. >> you immediately feel like you're getting online and somebody somewhere is watching wa you're doing. you mentioned google+. are they doing anything to ensure kids' safety if they're targeting kids under 18? >> yes. google+ has been out for a few months. three things in particular is what they're focusing on. number one, they're focusing on warning you before you post anything publicly, which i think is a good thing. so you type a post. before it goes out, you'll be notified, hey, this could be seen by all. number two, there will be no contact by strangers. they can do this because they have google circles where you can plug in specifically people you want to connect with. last but not least, if you're doing video chat and a stranger tries to jump into your video chat, you, the youth, will be kicked out to keep you safe from any possible issues. >> all righty.
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in terms of these privacy issues for the rest of us, feeling like i want to log on, who's watching me, is there any way users can opt oust this? >> christi, this is what has many people furious. this is usually a bad thing when there is no way out. what they're saying for this privacy policy that goes into effect march 1st. there isn't an opt-out option. the only thing is for people to say i'm not going to use google services. >> there you have it. now, for those of you who travel by air a lot, 2012 may not be a real stellar year for ticket prices, just so you know. it's one of the things they say is going to be very expensive in the next year. we'll tell you what else is going up in price too. stay close.
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well, don't hurt me because i'm just telling you how it is from what we know. 2012 is going to be an expensive year for some things and i'm not just talking about those gas prices. i spoke to financial analyst clyde anderson earlier about what could burn a hole in your pocket this year. >> airfare. we've been saying to anybody looking on line for a ticket has seen these increases, and they're going up and going up rapidly. we're talking 5% in some areas and sometime as 15% surcharge, we know we're paying for bags and other things. it's crucial right now. i tell people look at travelocity to save a little money and be flexible. that's the key with the new
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economy. be flexible. go in there and be flexible and see what dates pop up for availability. that's a great way to do it. >> that's good to know. data plans. >> they're increasing. no more of the free band width. it's going away. everybody's using it. we see everybody's using ichlt the lines are getting jammed up. t-mobile and others have offed a plan. they kind of throttle you and stop you at about 250 megabytes. >> how can they say unlimited? >> they give you talk, text and data. they give you more than the competitive folks. >> right now may be the key because it might be going up. gadgets like desktop computers? >> desktop computers and hard drives. there was a flood in thailand, so it's causing -- it's a
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shortage right now on some of the hard drives. with desk top computers, they're consolidatin consolidating, the big bulky models to screens, touchscreens, so what we're going to see is an increase of desktop technology as this new technology is implea managemented. >> the last one that always getting me is shipping. i will be at the computer and i'll spend half an hour on an order that i'm getting and i'll get to shipping and if it's too much i'll cancel the whole thing. it's nuts. >> we're seeing shipping increase at 5%. be careful. go to some of the retailers that offer free shipping. ll bean. do your due diligence. be paetsch end and do your homework in this new economy and we'll be okay. >> good advice. do you thing the firnt american gold rush was in california? you wouldn't have be alone. coming up, an incredible journey through the historic south.
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so did you know the first u.s. gold rush was not in california and are you one of the countless people who spent decades pondering that question? how are cabbage kids born? reynolds wolf just discovered the answers to all of these questions and that one is a doozy. >> americans have been sleepless, trying to find the answers to these incredible questions, no question about it.
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the thing is we're able to take an amazing trip, one of the many trips we've done. it's spectacular the answers to so many questions you can find from behind the wheel of a car in america. today's adventure begins in atlanta, georgia, home to some 5.2 million people. in 1836 the city was called termi terminous and then fackerville and then atlanta. alicia, where are we headed today? we're going to head to the georgia mountains and band for a little gold and take a scenic route to asheville, north carolina. >> leon jonebs is our journalis, are you up for this? >> i'm always up for it. >> all right. let's go. first up at the consolidated gold mine. at first impression you see this beautiful building in the parking lot,but it's what's
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below ground that really captures the imagination. you know, this wasn't dug just yesterday. it's been around since 1898. and this is deke harver. >> in one overovyear over 100,0 showed up. we'll grab a gold pan and head out to the rivers and streams. >> all right, "d." show me how this is done. >> figure it up with water. if you do your job right, you should do -- >> gold, check it out. and i've got sand. >> you'd better keep your day job. >> thanks for your time. >> we've got to hit the road. guys, i picked up a little
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souvenir for us at the gold mine. >> i'm frightened. >> i can't wait to find out what it is. >> yeah, you can. it's a hospital in cleveland, georgia. the view inside is sensory overload. it's an incredible experience. thankfully we've got dr. linda loggins with us. why do they refer to this area as baby lane hospital? he decided at that time to open babyland general hospital. >> new ones are born every day? >> i have mother cabbage in labor right now. >> one more push. likes like we've got a beautiful
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new baby girl here. >> the baby's out. we are too. all right, alicia. what's next? >> we're going to head to tiger, georgia. it's a little place called goats on a roof. >> goats on a roof? >> just wait. snal oh, my gosh. they're goats. >> on a roof. >> let's do it. >> all right. we're out of food, we're out of time, and we need to get out of here before we have to lock horns. let's go. well, we finally made it to our final destination here in beautiful asheville, north carolina, home to the biltmore estate, some great people, and some awesome breweries. and among those, highland brewing company. they're the ones that got the brewing craze all started here in nashville.
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we've got john lida here. he's the big man at highland brewing company. why is asheville the best place for brewing? >> the water. they've got great water. >> how many types do you have? >> eight. want to get a taste? >> yeah, let's have some. >> let's go. >> what an amazing trip. our cup run equity over. we dealt with everything from cabbage patch dolls, panned for gold, we even played with goats. if you have an adventure for us, go to our facebook page, give us the ideas, and we're all ears. see you next time on the road. >> where are we headed next? i have no idea. it's really going to be up to what you guys tell us. we certainly need some feedback. if you can, go to our facebook page. it's really easy. go to adventure road with reynolds wolf on our facebook page. we've had a bunch of ideas.
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hanging out west. you never know. audience participation required. >> that shows our trust in you, that we're willing to go where you tell us go. >> it could be potentially dangerous but that's half the fun. >> we're learning more, by the way, about the night a barely conscious demi moore was rushed to the hospital. a friend called 911. take a listen. >> is she breathing normally? >> no, not normal but more sort of shaking. burning up. >> you're going to hear a lot more of that phone call to 911 straight ahead. stay close. it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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good saturday morning. i want to get you in the know this morning. checking on our top stories right now, more violence in syria today. an armed terrorist group killed seven soldiers in an attack. the violence spread to the syrian embassy in cairo as dozens of anti-protesters stormed the building. they're upset with the crackdown of opposition demonstrators. the protesters smashed window, tore down a syrian flag, and obviously stomped on a lot of
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stuff before they finally dispersed there. the 911 call, meanwhile, placed the day demi moore was rushed to the hospital, on it the woman tells the operator to send an ambulance as soon as possible because moore was convulsing and burning up. >> is an ambulance on the way? >> hold on. tell me exactly what happened there. >> okay. she smoked something. it's not marijuana, but it's similar to innocence, and she seems to be having convulsions of some sort. >> okay. are you with the person at this time? >> i'm actually in the other room. >> you've got to be next to her so i can ask some questions. we have paramedics on the way. okay. she overdosed. >> she's convulsing. >> okay. keep watching her closely. don't do anything. don't put anything in her mouth. >> i'm not. >> was this an accident or intentional. >> she smoekd something but the reaction was accidental. >> now, a spokesman for moore
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says the actress, who recently separated from her husband ashton kutcher is seeking treatment for exhaustion now. in southern california, music great etta james will be laid to rest today. the reverend al sharpton is going to preside at her funeral service and christina ag lair la will sing etta james' signature hit "at last." james died january 20th from complications from leukemia, and she would have been 74 this past wednesday. okay. remember this seen at the apollo theater last week? ♪ i am so in love with you ♪ >> he can hold a tune. that's president obama singing a pork of al green's classic "let's stay together." this morning we're learning his rendition boosted sales of the song, people, by 490%.
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and neilson's sound scan which measures digital bice which supports the 1971 hit was downloaded 16,000 times last week. well, while most of the republican presidential hopefuls are setting their sights on floor, ron paul is in maine. caucuses are already there. paul is meeting with a band of supporters. shannon, what can you tell us about what he's doing today? >> reporter: that's right, christy. i'm in a part of maine where the cell phone signal is not -- i hope it holds up. part of the reason why it might be overloaded, the cell phone towers is -- packed with a few hundred people here in bangor, maine. he has three stops today. he's been bombarding the state since yesterday. but why, as you mention, with
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other rivals in florida, why is ron paul in maine? let's listen to his explanation from yesterday. >> i was asked by the media earlier, what am i doing in maine, why am i not in florida? [ inaudible ] >> we knew there was a love for liberty and we wanted to come and share it with you, so thank you very much. >> reporter: -- february 4, february 11, we expect results on february 11. but some of the small towns are holding caucuses today. hence you're seeing ron paul here because this is a system that's pretty cheap. it's not expensive. neighbors or friends, whatever, going from home to home or town hall meetings basically trying to prop up their support for different candidates. he does pretty well in a caucus system, christi.
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>> we're still three days away from the florida thing, so let me ask you this. is he planning to go to florida or where is his next stop? >> yeah. ron paul has pretty much written off florida. it's a winner takes all system there. we know he attended the debates there last week, but his next moves are going to be in other caucus states, colorado, nevada, minnesota. they'll be coming up and beyond. again, because the caucus system tends to be a little more favorable to ron paul with his strategy. >> all righty. shannon travis, thank you so much. we heard you just fine. glad we could get that connection working. thank you. now i want to give you a quick programming note too. be sure to tune in for an on kour presentation of cn's florida republican presidential debate in case you missed it. it's coming your way today at 5:00 p.m. eastern. one man says he's completely contaminated by nuclear waste, but he still says his hometown
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toxic town, still quarantined nearly a year after japan's fukushima nuclear disaster. our kyung lah paid a visit to see why he will not go. >> reporter: in the shadow of the fudge skushima nuclear plan. it's inside a government mandated evacuation zone. that hasn't stopped him from refusing to heed the evacuation since the nuclear meltdown very since then you've been living inside an exclusion zone. >> translator: yes, he says. i've remained. >> reporter: it began with a simple desire to feed the animals on his farm. the government evacuated 178,000 residents around the area without plans to evacuate pets and valuable livestock. weeks turned to months and now a year. he's captured pictures of his solitaire life, his dying
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cattle, untended farm. defiance grew into fury. are you angry at the government a year later after this disaster? >> translator: i'm full of rage, he says. that's why i'm still here. i refuse to leave and let go of this anger and grief. i weep when i see my hometown. the government and people in tokyo don't know what's really happening here. >> reporter: do you feel the people of your town are the ones truly paying the price? >> translator: we're the victims, he says. the government and tepco, they're the perpetrators. but they don't treat us as victims. the clean-up, he says, has been painfully slow, small signs of progress. like this park is under blue tarps. he continues to needle the government as the sole citizen. he's taking care of his neighbor's pet, feeding him, trying to keep him alive.
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inside there's no electricity. very little access to water. the reason why he lives this way, he says, is because this is home. are you worried about your health living there? >> reporter: i'm co . >> translator: i'm completely contaminated he says. >> reporter: why put your personal health at risk? >> i have to stay here and make sure it's done, he says. i want to die in my hometown. >> reporter: his darmgs has turned him into a local legend. money is coming in after he posted this youtube video where he asks for donations. he grabs canned foot outside of the exclusion zone. the pressure from authorities is growing. he said he would do this interview only outside the mandated evac jags zone. what is it you want the international community to know one year after this disaster. >> translator: you see what can happen? the u.s., russia, japan, this is
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the third time, something we created that ended up hurting us. we haven't learned our lesson yet. kyung lah, cnn, inside the exclusion zone. >> bless his heart. you know. i'm sure you've probably played that game "angry bird" on line. there's a new take called "angry brieds" in india. we'll tell you why it's got people talking and playing. -- captions by vitac -- ♪ what's he looking for? i think he's looking for savings.
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i want to talk about technology to change the world. india is doing it. it's invenltsed an online game to prevent the illegal practice of giving dowry in the country. the details were explained to me earlier. >> although banned in 1961, it's still a widespread custom, especially in the rural areas of india. so a company which has a name known as wedding in hindi ham come up with a game that highlights what is still a major problem, which is the huge pressure of brides having to give their grooms dowries. this game is based on "angry
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birds," which is a very popular online game. >> no, it is not. >> have you ever played it? >> no. my kids have. >> this is called "angry brides." the idea is they've set up three male figures, three potential grooms. the one is an engineer. the one is a doctor. and the one is a pilot. and the idea is you hit them with shoes and pots and pans and flip flops,nd each time you hit one of these male figures, so your dowry goes down. and the idea is basically the thing is that a woman will give you care and all the love you need, you shouldn't have to have a dowry. and there you can pick one of your eye cons, and there he is. the engineer, the doctor, and the pilot. and each time you bash them so the dowry lessens. there it is. the angry briesd, which is available for free on facebook. >> oh, for heaven's sake. the people who practice this can't be thrilled because you're
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making a mockery of their tradition, yes? >> there's two ways of looking at it. what it's doing, in essence, is drawing attention to a problem. in 20102,000 women with murdere thousand women were murdered or committed suicide because their family couldn't meet the dowery payment. there's some criticism saying should this terrible problem be highlighted with a game. newsroom continues at the top of the hour with one mr. gary tuchman. so good to see you today. what have you got for us? >> it's nice to be with you. last time we sat together was covering a trial, the warren jeffs trial. >> who could forget that. >> now we're here, a much more pleasant place to be. >> what are you doing today? >> first of all, politics. we have a huge primary coming up this tuesday, florida, so we'll be going all over the state of florida showing you campaign events. also coming up at noon, the
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costa concordia cruise ship legal action taking place. we can expect for a long time there will be action in the courts. each passenger who survived has been offered the equivalent of just over $14,000. but many passengers are upset saying it's a lowball figure. many lawyers are upset. they want more than ten times more for these survivors, more than $160,000 apiece. we'll also talk about foster care children. what's really sad is that most foster care children, the great majority, never go to college. but we'll tell you an inspirational story about two foster care children who have had amazing success. they have achieved beyond their wildest dreams and we'll have that story for you. and then 4:00 eastern time, reclaim your career. because of the economy, many people over the age of 55 are returning to the workplace after being out of the workplace for a long time. what you should know before you walk in the door. we will have great information and that's at 4:00 eastern time. >> isn't that funny, going from college, foster kids making their way to college and then 55
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years and up finding their way back to the workforce. what does that say about where we are right now. >> that's right. we have a little something for everybody. >> absolutely. i'm really looking forward to the foster kids too. love it, cheering them on. thank you so much, gary. we'll be watching. now, some super bowl fans, take a ride on the wild side. we'll check out one of the hottest attractions of this super bowl. wait until you see this. ♪
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so what do you think is happening cross country today? let's take a look and start in washington state. a federal judge has sentenced the man dubbed the barefoot bandit to six and a half years in prison. colton harris moore gained notoriety after leading police on a two-year manhunt. the 20-year-old stole boats, cars and planes while on the run for a string of thefts and burglaries. they finally nabbed him after he crashed a plane in the bahamas. his federal sentence will run concurrent to his state sentence which was handed down last month. check out this school bus fight in ocala, florida. that girl in the center was knocked unconscious. here's what her mom said
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happened. >> first day on the bus, why are they going to jump her, because they asked her to scoot over? they told her to sit on the damn floor. >> seven of these students, ages 12 to 15 years old, have been formally charged with either misdemeanor battery or misdemeanor assault. the latest super bowl attraction in indianapolis. >> 2, 1, zip it. >> oh, baby! >> oh, my goodness. that's a seven-story, 800-foot dive across super bowl village. interested? hey, you still have time. it ends next saturday. well, schools around the country are preparing for a massive overhaul of their lunch program. it's going to force them to serve more of the good stuff. we're talking fruits, veggies, skim milk. here's the thing. pizza and french fries still considered -- still going to be served because they're still considered by congress, who
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passed legislation and classified them as vegetables. our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, showed me exactly what the changes are and how they're going to make a difference. >> there are a lot of changes. this is the first time in 15 years that they have revamped school lunches. isn't that amazing? >> yeah. >> childhood obesity is one of the biggest public health threats out there. can you believe it, as we speak, there are no limits on calories in school lunches. the sky' the limit. >> they can have like 2,000 calories if they wanted? >> sure, absolutely. isn't that crazy? >> is that changing? >> that is changing. now there are limits on calories and the limits are different for the little kids than the big kids. here's an old school lunch. i swear i ate this in school, right? this is what kids could be eating right now in school. this is too many calories for an elementary school student right now. you couldn't for the new lunches, you couldn't make this under the new rules. there's just too many calories. so instead, here's an example of what you could make. you would have a turkey
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sandwich, turkey and low fat cheese on whole wheat. you'll notice there's whole wheat. that's one of the new rules is that you need to get some whole grains in there where that wasn't a concern before. refried beans, green peppers, cantaloupe and hickema. how many kids know what that is. and you don't have to have that or any of these specific fruits and veggies, but you do have to have more fruits and vegetables than you did under the old rules. >> a bigger variety? >> yes. and also just more of them. >> i'm glad you told me what the refried beans were because i wasn't sure what that was. >> there's also ranch dipping sauce. and this milk is low fat. it's got to be either skim or 1% under the old rules. before they could do 2% or whole. >> so is this an everyday thing or are there holdovers that will continue -- that were in the old menu that will continue into the new one? >> there are some holdovers.
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under the current rules and under the new rules, pizza counts as a vegetable. >> come on! >> it does, i'm serious. i'm not making this up. you see that red stuff? that's tomato paste. so two tablespoons of tomato paste make this a vegetable. and a lot of people, including the obama administration, had a problem with that. and they said that's -- you know, that's not right, it shouldn't be that way, but the food lobby is pretty powerful. some people say they're the reason why pizza is still a vegetable. also tater tots and french fries. >> love the tater tots. >> those are also still considered a vegetable, so you can still have that as one of your vegetables. and there are more rules about how often and all that, but still, they are a vegetable. >> so the big change is more fruits, more veggies? >> more fruits, more veggies, a calorie limit and also low-fat milk. that's huge because kids drink a
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