tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN February 10, 2012 4:00pm-5:00pm PST
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we have books in every corner of our home. newt also has an entire library on his kindle. i may be the most grateful person in america for this invention. >> the book thing i believe, the golf thing a surprise. i don't know. >> a little bit of a stretch. >> you have a great weekend. everybody at home have a great weekend too. erin burnett outfront starts now. >> break news from syria. the death toll rising. another country stepping in to prevent more bloodshed tonight. we have satellite images of weapons on the ground. we'll show them to you. also a sneak peek at president obama's budget. it's coming out next week. we have it now and in it a trillion dollar deficit in year one. new photo showing josh powell a day before he killed himself and his two sons. plus the police discover disturbing images on his computer.
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let's go outfront. we have breaking news on the crisis in syria. it could be the most significant development since the uprising began a year ago. at this hour, it is reported that a possible peace deal is in the works. this is one that has the backing of arab states, it's a draft resolution being circulated by saudi arabia which condemned the actions in syria today. we're getting word this is making its way through the u.n. general assembly. we're trying to confirm this report. we'll have an update as soon as possible. one again breaking news on a possible peace plan for syria. now to our other top story. groundhog day, failure on repeat. the president is going put out his budget on monday. it's going to let the bush tax cuts expire on people make being over $250,000 a year. excuse me.
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impose a minimum effective tack rate on millionaires. make cuts to health care and run a trillion dollar deficit. it's pretty much like the budget he passed last year which didn't pass. it's been 1,017 days since the united states of america has had a budget passed by the senate. this is embarrassing. it's part of why we got downgraded from our top notch aaa credit rating. maybe you blame the president for putting out the same budge as last year that didn't pass. maybe you blame republicans for not compromising it. the bottom line is they are all playing politics. in an election year digging their heels in to score points with voters. we're all getting hurt as confidence in america's financial prowess and leadership falters. let me start with you dan, looking through this, some of
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the numbers we have, $1.3 trillion deficit in fiscal 2012. $901 bill in in fist kag 2013. we're going have cuts in medicare and mid accommodate. bush tax cuts go away and the buffet tax on millionaires is added. >> two things that you should understand. first, when politicians talk about budget cuts they are using the washington math definition which is if you increase spending 6% instead of 8% you get to claim a 2% cut. medicare is going up under this budget. medicaid is going up under this budget. they are all increasing. the second thing to understand is that all he's doing on tax policy is playing the same class warfare game he played last year. we'll raise taxes on the rich. that won't fly with the u.s. house. and this whole buffet tax is basically a turbo charged version of the alternative minimum tax which everybody agrees is the worst feature of our tax code.
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i agree completely this is nothing but politics and of course we'll get southeast politics also from the republicans on the hill. >> maria, we get politics from both sides here. 1,017 days since we had a real budget in this country, it's appalling when you think about it. to both sides. >> i think that's true, erin. what you have to take into consideration here is what are american families going through today? what we're hearing from american families, middle class families, workers is that they want fairness in the budget. they want fairness in the tax code. and, yes, both sides have been playing politics, that's true. what this president is focused on is how you grow the economy, how do you focus on fairness for american families when you see poll after poll these same families are saying that they do agree that the rich should be paying a little bit more in taxes. you have buffet saying it. you have bill gates saying it. you have bill clinton saying it. you have all sorts of rich men saying they should be paying
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more. when you also look at the polls, they also think it's republicans, the ones that have been obstructionist in trying to get to a place where we have growth, where we have job creation in a fair and balanced manner. >> interesting. you went straight to the talking point for the democratic side and dan let me ask you this point, in this budget the president talks about medicare and medicaid and a lot of other thing. i want seems the debate will come right where maria was which is on tax increase and who should be getting them and who should not. is this what this comes down to. >> suspect we'll be doing that all through this election year. my point to maria is simple if warren buffett and bill gates think they should pay higher taxes there's nothing stopping them from baby out their check books and sending a big pile of money to uncle sam. if they think that crowd in washington can spend the money better than they can invest it i think they are smoking crack.
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i rather have warren buffett investing the money than either democrats or republicans. president obama promised hope and change and giving us the same policies we had under bush in terms of bigger government, more regulation, more intervepgs. the only thing he's doing different is making us more like europe and throwing in the class warfare tax hikes and you don't make an economy more competitive. we won't get jobs coming here instead of going india and china. >> on this tax issue, dan, let me get you on the record and then give maria a chance to respond. is there any tax increase right now that you would accept? i mean, if you closed all the loopholes. is that okay? is letting the bush tax go away for anyone okay? >> erin i'm perfectly happy to go on the record and saying i want to completely wipe out every loophole deduction credit exemption shelter that we have in the tax system. for 20 years i've been droning
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on about having a flat tax. that would mean a lot of rich people would may more. some would pay less. the key thing is we would have a tax code like hong kong that's a dynamo for economic growth. we would dry up a lot of lobbying sleaze in this town. >> got say i've read on that hong kong flat tax and there's two sides to that story. maria if loopholes were closed and you could put real tax reform on the table, would that be a compromise? the bush tax cuts are put off for a little while and get massive tax reform. >> that's something that the administration will be willing to look at. but, again, guy back to fairness and i will respond to dan with a very simple response which is, if the fix for this economy really was continue to cut taxes and cut taxes and cut taxes why
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did the economy tank under president bush when that's exactly what his philosophy was. the reason was because it wasn't a fair tax. and every economist will tell you that you can't cut your way to growth and to job creation. so this president by the way has already cut medicare by $500 million and the democrats got efiscerated for it during the 2012 elections. he's willing to put cuts on the table of the programs that we find so deer but it's all about fairness. >> in a word and i mean it guys, in a word will we get a budget or will it be at least 1,382 days before we get a budget? >> harry reid said no budget from the senate. four years no budget. why do we still have a budget committee. >> one word. no. we got the answer. maria. >> i'm going to go three.
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if it's fair yes. >> you guys, all right. thanks very much to both of you. i think we got an answer to that question. we'll be optimistic. obama caved to catholics who care about birth control today and that's next. under surveillance tonight, twitter, homeland security is monitoring what you post. it's amazing. we'll tell you what is it. then china, smoke them if you got them. thanks for babysitting the kids, brittany.
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coverage to workers. it allows women working for those religious groups to still get birth control for free but the insurance companies have to pay for it. you say really? the insurance companies have not commented on this. it's unclear if the battle is over. the president caved to pressure from catholic groups. 50 million strong in this country and one that the president needs for re-election. recent polling from pew research shows support for the president has eroded by five points since 2008. james carville is cnn contributor joining us tonight. great to have both of you. penny bishops were led by timothy dolan here. had a problem with this. they said the compromise is a step in the right direction. what does that mean? is this done or not done? >> absolutely it's not over. you know, i don't know what the president was thinking.
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you know christians and catholics and christians from all over the world have been involved in the pro-life movement, taking care of the unborn for 2,000 years. and it wasn't going to stop with the president's mandate. the problem is that we've been stupaked. this is not really a cave all the way, it's really going to be a problem for women of faith because somebody is going to pay for it erin. it's not like no one pays for it. you know that we all contribute to our health care premiums and our premiums are used for other people. therefore, because of the mandate, women that are members of concerned women for america, members of my staff will have to contribute and so for the president to pretend that he's taken care of this is not true. as long as the mandate exists it's still a problem. >> james carville, what happened? didn't the president see this coming? i'm confused. >> presumably he didn't see it
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coming. fortunately actually insurance companies glad to put bitter control pills in. it saves money on health care costs. >> assume the choice is getting pregnant or having birth control. >> that's what insurance companies say. they pay for it and nets out to no cost. 97% of catholic women have used birth control. i doubt if it will affect that much. the truth of the matter is he compromised and i expect that's where it's going to be. now it will start we find out all these catholic hospitals and catholic institutions were providing birth control coverage. i wonder if they will lose it as a result of this. i'm sure these catholic universities that they will go through here and determine if they are dispensing birth control pills at infirmaries. be interesting to see where this goes.
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we'll have a big contraception bru-ha-ha here. i'm concerned for women of america. >> yes, please. >> penny, one thing i find interesting about this whole conversation is all the percents that get thrown around. i'm poking fun at you james, had a% of catholics support the president's plan. >> obviously, you know, there's a large number of women in this country, women of faith, evangelical women often use contraceptives. this was not just about contraceptive, this is about abortive. that's a line for evangelical women. this is a point of grave concern. it's ridiculous to say this will cost less money. if you weigh the two perhaps side-by-side. it's cheaper to do abortions then by the way instead of allowing a woman have a baby. let's knock off grandma for that matter if other trying to save
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money. it's nonsensical. thank you for sticking up for women, james. we don't need your help. conservative women are very concerned about this issue. it's dear to us. any time the issue of faith butts up against -- >> let james respond. >> i like the fact, you just heard this woman equate killing grandmother with taking a birth control pill. >> no i didn't. >> that's where the debate is going. >> don't interrupt me. you got a major candidate by the name of rick santorum who wants to overturn griswald. wants to favor states that outlaw contraception. he's an anti-contraception activist and he's doing pretty well in the republican party right now. my figure of 98%, erin you know where i got it from. they asked catholic woman.
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why would a catholic woman lie that she was not following the teachings of the church. my point is probably 2% of women for some reason can't conceive and don't need it. >> you know why it confused me? another poll we were using said 58% of catholics supported the president's plan. i figured if 98% of catholic women were using birth control more would support the president's plan. >> some use it don't support the plan. >> right. >> those figures i'm quoting are figures that were published by different polls. >> both of those polls were accomplished. james what does the president do from here? do you think this is over? >> you know, look nothing -- i think most people said look the guy compromised. and i think contraception has broad support across this country. i think we're going to be -- people will be interested to see what mitt romney's position is on griswold.
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i think we need to have a healthy debate about the role of contraception in the american life. >> thanks to boston you. we appreciate it. under surveillance tonight. is the government crossing the line by monitoring you on social media sites. this is a question before congress right now. hearings next week will happen to discuss how the department of homeland security monitor sites like twitter, facebook and the drudge report. is the government looking for suspicious activity or is big brother a more appropriate word to use here and are we having the government infringe on our rights. paul is here tonight. good to see you. lucky you didn't get in front of the birth control beat. a feisty conversation. >> carville shut down. >> the government has been monitoring these sites for
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terrorist activity. but now we see reports that you go on twitter and post something negative on dhs and that that might be grounds to monitor you. how do we know if they are going too far? >> this thing that i read about today in these lawsuits are very, very frightening. they seem to be going into a new area. they are monitoring social media. they have this government speak thing. they call at any time social media monitoring and situational awareness initiative. what situational awareness initiative? what they are trying to figure out is who is criticizing homeland security. not just what citizens are doing this but what journalists are blogging about it and reporting about it. why would they want to do that? people who are worried about this say they are trying to restrict free speech. >> if you're on twitter, and people are allowed to follow
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yo you, right? >> it's legal, but the question is does it chill political speech? is it reoppressive. if you have a system where you're worried that the government will be monitoring what you say and if you criticize homeland security, maybe you better not criticize homeland security, that's the argument. i think it's legal, erin, frankly if you choose to post publicly your political views, you know what homeland security is saying, they are saying hey this is how america communicates. facebook, twitter, all of these social sites. they are looking for the bad guys and they figure you know what the first thing the bad guy will do? he'll attack homeland security. so it gives us a lead and they follow that lead to get the bad guy. that's their defense. >> all right. we'll see how this goes in the hearings. we'll cover this with paul cowan. we asked you if you were okay if drones were watching you. we had passionate discussion. when a did the uva lacrosse
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in a gallop poll released today a majority of americans said they believe that china and not the united states is the world leading economic power. pretty stunning. it comes on a day when we find out that the american trade gap with china hit a record high of $295.5 billion in december. which brings us to tonight's number. zero. that's the number of cigarettes america exported to china last year. with more than 320 million smokers in china, a third of the world's smokers it should be a huge market for america's tobacco giants. in addition took the largest cigarette consumer china is the world's largest cigarette producer. they grow 40% of the world's tobacco and only have to import 5%. the remaining 95% consumed domestically by cheenz people.
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china lacks national health care problems that comes from so much smoking. according to the world health organization, a million people die every year due to smoking related illnesses. and their economy is still only a third of the size of the united states. a superpower in the making? sure. but more powerful than the u.s. economically? i'm sorry, not really close. nosey gar. -- no cigar. still outfront, the outfront five. slaughter in syria. >> at least 28 people killed, more than 200 wounded. >> system failure. >> we have been warning the police that he was capable of hurting those children. >> all this outfront in our second half. look, every day we're using more and more energy.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus in our own reporting, do the work and find the outfront five. up first president obama releases his budget on monday and we got a sneak peek. the president will let the bush tax cuts expire for those making $250,000 or more a year. he also has added into this budget a minimum effective tax rate on millionaires. and made some cuts to medicare. his budget forecast $901 billion deficit in 2013, much the same not in terms of that number but in terms of the budget he
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proposed did not pass a year ago. number two, day three of the george huguely murder trial. today prosecutors played a video recording questioning huguely after his girlfriend yeardley love was found daddy. two jurors as well as huguely cried as well as the video played. during one part he said i may have grabbed her a little bit around the neck but i never strangled her. detectives questioned the uva lacrosse player about fresh bruising on his knuckles and arm hat he said came from lacrosse. the defense said love died from a combination of adderal and alcohol. number three ben bernanke talked about the state of the economy today. he said the high rate of foreclosures will go on for a while. he said the housing market cannot recover until it's easier for people to get mortgages. economists tell the chairman's comments indicate it's unlikely
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the fed will expand mortgage back buying. number four consumer sentiment came off a five month high. it fell 2.5%. despite the low drop consumer confidence is likely to improve but congress can still hurt thing. why? the possibility of a failure to extend the payroll tax cut looms large as a down side risk to consumer sment and spending by cooper hows. what weather we doing to get back our top credit rating. the stock market suffered it's worse loss so far this year. 189 point drop. here's what we know. a proposed peace deal apparently is in the works being circulated by saudi arabia. it's now making its way through the u.n. general assembly. this breaking headline comes as
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we get death toll numbers rising. the numbers came that 110 people died today. 64 civilians. six so-called rebels. 40 government security force. among the dead were victims of twin blasts in one of syria's cities. and ivan watson is in istanbul covering this for us. i asked him the latest on that twin attack. >> reporter: the state media is reporting at least 28 people killed, more than 200 wounded. they are blaming this, calling this a terrorist attack and when we spoke with defector syrian soldiers and officers linked with this free syrian army anti-government movement they've given some conflicting accounts as to whether or not their operatives were in that area when the bombs we want off. they said they are not responsible but some have said they carried out some kind of an
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attack just moments before the bombs went off. >> is your feeling that this then is truly spreading? you're talking about, we heard so much about hahms. is this a national and civil war? >> reporter: it's definitely been violence that's been spreading across the country now for the better part of a year. this started in march of last year. we've seen a number of cities that have been basically reduced to battleground facing siege-like conditions from the syrian army. the fact that the violence is moving or what looked like terrorist attacks to the city what that will do is shake up segments of the syrian society that so far have stayed with the government and have been spared the violence facing those that are protesting against the government. it's going to make them very uncomfortable. >> a significant development, let me ask you about russia. obviously we've been talking a lot on this show how russia has
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been a significant arms supplier for the syrian military. today russia is saying that the west, implying the united states has been involved militarily already in syria. what can you tell us about that. >> reporter: we'll get more and more accusations like this as great powers line up on both sides of the struggle inside syria. we're seeing the development of a proxy war. we've seen, for example, the u.s. ambassador to damascus, rocket ford very outspoken who had to shut terrify doors of the embassy in damascus a few days ago come out with a statement that looked very targeted against the russians say it's basically crazy to compare the syrian opposition to the syrian army. russia as line has been you have to talk to both of these sides in this struggle as if they were equally powered combatants which simply isn't true. >> thank you very much. reporting tonight from istanbul.
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so is a peace deal imminent and could it be a break through or a meaningless document from the united nations. good to have you both with us. paula you've been working your sources on this issue. is there some sort of a peace deal? >> well thanks for having me here this evening. i don't know that we can put much hope in a peace deal. this u.n. general assembly proposal is another signal to the assad regime the u.n. is serious but i'm not sure that syria is taking it seriously. >> that's what you were saying is also a general assembly document not security council and a lot of people are skeptical of something that would have more quote-unquote teeth from the u.n. >> this is deja vu. we did this before. we did this in october. there was an effort by the u.n. that ended in failure. we did this a week or so ago and
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it ended in failure. there's no solution at the united nations. no solutions at the arab league. the solution is on the battlefield. that's where we are today. that's why the powers of the world are called upon if you're going to rescue the syrian people the time to do it is now. >> you talk about that. you wrote in the "new york times" about that and the "wall street journal." an arab campaign, you're talking about similar to what happened in serbia. syria's military is serious. 300,000 ground troops, 5,000 tanks. they can fight back. >> erin, we've gone through this before. we said the same thing when we watched the genocide in bosnia. the serbs are great power. when the american power came into the equation we destroyed the serbs and rescued the bosnia. we did the same with the iraq
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republican guard when we waged war against iraq in 2013 and 1991. the syrian army is exhaufsted. the rank-and-file are sunnis and are eager to defect. >> what happens, though, if there is military intervention? you know you look at iraq which is as many say still struggling with potentially a civil war, insurgents. you go in and you get rid of something and who is responsible for putting some in its place >> the future is always uncertain but i think iraq is much more of a success story than its critics would like to say. i know there was a book of the hero of the iraq war, petraeus and we can take some pride on what happened in iraq. >> paula let me ask you a question about the satellite images we've gotten today that have been released from the u.s. military of syria. why has that -- why did they
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choose to do that? is that sending a message of hey we're watching you, we can see what's going on. we can drop bombs on you if we want to? >> sure it's a signal we have visibility on what's going on on the ground there. other than satellite imagery we have other. we have to look very closely at what an intervention, military intervention would look like. i don't think it's very likely from the u.s., much less the neighboring countries. because, you know, it's unlikely we can target the right force and be effective with strikes. if an alternative is arming opposition groups there, well that doesn't seem to lead to anything but a militarized protracted steal mate. >> seems we seen them doing that. libya different situation. but we did that.
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then you have people who end up doing bad things later who are arm. >> libya is a very different situation than syria. syria's neighbors, you do see the controlling devolving economically and electricity and basic services are going down. we have less control in syria and the surrounding countries than we could do in libya. >> thank you both very much. skill ahead protesters in attention in the streets. big clashes today with police and disturbing images connected to josh powell. what he did just hours before he killed himself and his two young sons. i'm a marathon runner,
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now to tonight's outer circle. we reach out to our sources around the world. we begin in athens. protesters battling with police angry about layoffs, cuts to wages and pensions. these cuts are necessary if a group of eurozone minute serious will sign off on another bailout. matthew, i'm wondering if greece is in a position to approve the cuts or might they choose to default and send the world in a spiral? >> erin, the greek prime minister said default is not an
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option for this country but to avoid it parliament will have to pass tough new austerity measures. being demand by the imf and others bailing greece out. there's enormous pressure on the government not to accept. thousands of greek protested on the streets of athens again today angry that after two years of austerity recession in this country seems to be getting worse. unemployment in the country is now over 20%. and few people here believe frankly that more austerity measures are going to make things any better at all. >> matthew chance, thank you very much. now to saudi arabia and the arms race showdown in the middle east. because according to recent reports saudi arabia is convinced iran is going to get a nuclear weapon. and if iran launches a nuclear test the saudi kingdom would immediately start buying nuclear war heads itself.
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david ottoway is an expert. >> it would ratchet up tension. if iran obtains nuclear weapons saudi arabia almost certainly will do the same. or at least seek to do the same. the saudis help the pakistanis financially develop their nuclear program and they will expect pakistan to help them obtain a nuclear capability and then you'll have turkey also wanting to develop a nuclear capability. >> all right. tonight we have breaking news in the case involving josh powell. according to a search warrant police have found a blood stained comforter in a storage locker that he rented in washington state. now powell was questioned in the 2009 disappearance of his wife susan. that case remains unsolved. but tonight we have a photo of josh powell at a bank the day before he committed suicide,
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murdered his two young sons on sunday in a fiery explosion at his washington state home. an image unfortunately now we all are familiar with. all have seen this horrible picture. we're learning about disturbing images on josh powell as computer showing animations of incestuous sex acts. a lot of questions and finger pointing. there were warning signs ignored. what could have been done to save powell's two sons. sunny hostin is joining me. what do you make of these developments? it's a chilling and kind of makes your arm hairs stand up when you see that picture of him at the bank going right before he killed those children. >> that's right. there's no question that we're learning so much more about this case and that the investigation is ongoing. i think, you know, the pictures of him at the bank and what he did, this was a plan in motion, but, you know, taking it out of context, i don't think
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authorities would have known that he planned to not only kill himself but kill his children, but there were so many system failures i think when you think about what's happening in this case and what has happened in this case, erin, bottom line is from tragedy i've always believed that when you look at what happened, you look at the facts, you look at the protocol, you can review and refine and reform but there's no question in this case mistakes were made and hopefully reform will be the result of this. >> what about the judge who oversaw the custody agreement. the judge did not disclose the full nature of the photos which were on josh powell's computer which were animation. it was short of child pornography on the computer. the grand parents didn't know and maybe if they had known about those things they would have fought harder on the custody. these children would never have had a custody arrangement with father. >> the images were found in utah
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two years ago and were just sent to the judge. the judge did the right thing in the sense that he put a halt on custody and ordered josh powell to undergo a psycho sexual evaluation, counselling, a polygraph test and switched everything up at that point but still maintained that they could have thepsychosexual evaluation, and counseling, and a polygraph test and switched everything up at this point, and maintained to have the super vised visits, because in a case like this, it is difficult, erin, to remove visitation from a biological parent. >> a biological parent. >> but there again, you have to reform the laws when it comes to children. >> and sunny, what about 911? this is a hard, really hard, hard topic for people, but did 9 1 fail as well? let me just listen to play that call just a little snippet of it again. >> he won't le me in the house. >> whose house is it? >> it is won't let me in. it ooh aes supervised visit.
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he went to court on wednesday, and he didn't get his kids back, and this is really -- i'm afraid for their lives. >> should the 911 operator have done something different? >> i think so. certainly, this is part of the failure. i would rate this as a fail. we are talking about, i think eight minutes, erin, eight minutes, you know, between the time she call and the time that someone was dispatched. you have got to when you call 911 presume that the call is valid and she explained that this is an emergency, emergency call. and you know, certainly there was a problem here, and everyone, i think that they can agree that the mistakes were made and that reform has to take place when you are talking about children. children. >> all right. sunny hostin, thank you. and now, let's check in with anderson cooper with what is coming up on ac 360. >> keeping them honest. mitt romney upping the ante on
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the credentials to be the gop nominee and saying today, he was a severely conservative governor and that is how he described the term in massachusetts. we are keeping them honest tonight looking at those claims. and also, accused child molester jerry sandusky heads to court saying he should have more freedom while under house arrest and he wants more access to the grandkids and should he get that? we have a panel weighing in that and also the fact that his back porch overlooks a playground. this tops the ri ddiculistridic tonight we want to talk about a woman who says that women should put career before family. join us. a deeper understanding of what's going on with your portfolio. we know all this because we asked you, and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight,
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ed to fly a plane at 47 has a successful tv show, and three children doesn't have it all, but she has the advice for getting as close as possible. >> you know we have to run around the shower to get wet, and it is quite depressing. >> you must have been in los angeles. >> but, the truth of the matter is that something gives, you know. joking apart, something has to give. and you know, my priorities are my career, my children, and my husband and my friends, and then me. actually what that means is of course is that my friends say i didn't get to see you as muff as i would like, and even i don't get to see as much of my children as i would like. >> you are saying, i put career first. a lot of women would never say that even if it were true. >> well, i know, and it is true in a lot of case, and by the way, it is true for a lot of men, and they would not say so either, but by putting my career fir first of all and i have built a
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successful business and i have employed great people and i want to invest time in them, and by doing that, aim setting myself up to be better able to pay college fees for instance. my children might thank me when i am home now, but not when i can't help them in college. >> you talk about having it all and how having it all is a recipe for being average and mediocre. >> yes. >> i met with a young girl the other day, and i have it all and no difference in the men and women and only the way that a young girl can be naive and something nice about it. and you want -- but how do you advice them how the deal with the fact that there is a reality that you cannot be great at everything? >> well, it is a big disappointment to women, and system of it is about the conditions. as we grow up, we inspire the women to reach for the stars. younger women enter higher education in greater numbers than young men, so you would expect that later on there are as many women at the top than men, but nobody tells them the truth, and no one tells them that they have to tell a choice.
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there are only 168 hours in the week, and you are to allocate. this is not a book, but a campaign, okay. i ask everybody who buys it or reads it, please give it away to somebody else. and as i hand them to people, i say you have to promise me and look me in the eye and tell me that you will give it to somebody else. there are ten things that you need to do to bust through the so-called glass ceiling and by the way, there is no such thing as a glass ceiling. what matters is that we bust the myth that women can have it all and then we will bust the glass ceiling. lots of people realize that there are sacrifices. >> thank you very much. >> you are very welcome. >> mrs. moneypenny that she goes by is engaging, and check out that book, because tough love and controversial opinions and definitely worth a read. speaking of powerful, exciting an edngaging and successful women,
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