tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 15, 2012 5:00pm-6:00pm PST
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good enough. it's lynntastic. thanks so much for watching. "ac 360" starts now. >> thanks very much. good evening. special coverage in the death of whitney houston. a source briefed on her behavior in her final days telling cnn whitney houston was seen drinking by the pool saturday morning, the day she died. her behavior did not seem erratic. she was seen drinking heavily wednesday and thursday morning by the pool and the bar. her appearance suggested she was intoxicated. other hotel guests accused the bartender of watering down her drinks. this picture shows her poolside wednesday, a drink by her side. we don't know what it contained. the account of her drinking comes from a single source that
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is reliable. we have a copy of the preliminary death certificate. immediate cause of death is deferred. deferred because drug skeening tests will not be finished for several weeks. we are going to be joined by the reverend who is giving the eulogy and married whitney houston to bobby brown. we have the dangers of mixing boos and pills. something that goes far beyond what may have happened to whitney houston. it was eye-opening for me. we did it before the show began. here is what investigators are looking into now. precipitation pills found inside her beverly hills hotel room are the focus of investigation. authorities tell cnn they issued subpoenas to her doctors in los angeles and on the east coast seeking her medical records and
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are looking into what type of precipitations she was given. investigators are contacting various pharmacies where her prescriptions were filled including this one raided by the drug enforcement agency in 2009 after michael jackson died from an overdose of prescription drugs. the d.a. is not involved, but issuing subpoenas is an unusual step in a death that is not a homicide. >> it is not a criminal investigation. >> the prescription pill bottles were all under houston's name. she was not filling out multiple prescriptions by various doctors known as doctor shopping. it's too soon to determine if she was prescribed drugs she didn't need or used an alias to get the pills. doctors and pharmacies have been cooperating and nothing out of the ordinary has been found so
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far. the new york daily news reports some of the pill bottles were not labeled. some were older prescriptions and one filled recently. cnn confirmed houston visited this doctor shown here four days before she died. he's been treating her for throat and vocal problems for years. a family friend told cnn houston was on prescription medication for a throat infection and taking other medicines. she may have mixed them with alcohol. she was drinking champagne two nights before her death. she was seen drinking that weekend at the hotel. houston was known to have a drink if she went out. she battled drug and alcohol problems for years. she entered rehab and a family friend said she was clean of hard drugs for several years. investigators will be looking for the presence of illegal as
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well as legal prescription drugs in the toxicology test. houston's funeral is set for saturday. a private service in her hometown, newark, new jersey. sources tell cnn brown may be at the service after all to pay tribute to houston's wife. the funeral will be held at whitney houston's childhood church as friends and family will sing. a reverend will give the eulogy. digging deeper into the drinking, what light, if any, it sheds on her death. i spoke with dr. sanjay gupta and dr. drew. what do you make of this report from a single source to cnn about houston seen drinking in
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the hotel over the weekend? >> a couple things, anderson. first of all, i hate to think we have to have this report of humiliating behavior to understand if she is drinking, she is in harms way. the fact there are multiple reports of her toasting and partying a couple nights before her death, it should have been enough for anyone near her to understand she was in serious trouble. we don't have to necessarily bring in these other story that is sound humiliates but not surprising. the level of consumption reported begins to make sense in terms of the potential of causing suppression ch. adding that level of alcohol that has been reported to one or two of the medications would be sufficient to cause her to stop breathing. >> it can be as simple as alcohol in combination with a drug like xanax or one or two other drugs?
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>> yes. >> addicts drink and not end up dead. >> anderson, you know, i have been getting so -- people are accusing me of getting excited about this story. i'm getting angry. i want people to listen. this is something i have been fighting most of my career as an addictionologist. people don't understand how problematic these medicines are, especially if you have an addiction. it is potentially a life-threatening exposure when they expose the medication and add to that, how many stories have we reported of people dying, pharmaceutical deaths and these are the medicines involved in that. >> are you saying anybody that has a past history of drug abuse can never drink? >> can never drink. >> people would say she was having some drinks. that doesn't mean she was relapsing, does it? >> anderson, i am trying not to get as excited as i have the
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last couple nights on this show. it's a severe relapse. she's not in the early stages of addiction. she had many years of severe addiction, had been treated three times and believe me, anderson, in each of those treatments, abstinence was the goal. the fact she could go to the treatments as recently as last may and come out and the people around her think partying with alcohol is okay because her problem is other drugs, it shows the treatments were failures and she needed a lot more treatment. she didn't need to be out in public. she didn't need to be paraded out in public or working on a movie. her life was in danger as we now know. we should have known that four months ago. >> one of the things you have done a lot of reporting on is
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doctor shopping. there's no efd whitney houston did that. coroners want to rule that out. they are subpoenaing doctors. you had done a report on how easy it is to get multiple prescriptions. i want to show that. >> that took 15 minutes. i was able to walk in, they took my charge card, they took my address and i walked out with narcotics. >> how does that happen? >> one thing that you have to point out, there's no evidence or suggestion of doctor shopping here. what i was trying to show in that report was the regulation, the keeping tabs on people filling these type of prescriptions is woefully inadequate in every state.
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you have a prescription from one doctor, go to another pharmacy, fill another prescription. when you start getting the medicines you get a lot of pills. it's hard for someone who wants to get the pills. maybe not the fault of the doctor or the fault of the pharmacy. the system is not designed to be able to catch people like that. you can see within 15 minutes what i was able to do. >> dr. drew, people are going to be watching this taking multiple prescriptions saying wait do i know about the interaction of all these drugs. the point you make time and time again, for an addict, an addict is more likely to take extra, to take more than the doctor has told them to take. >> that's right. it doesn't take much extra, by the way. in fact, in their mind, they are taking it as prescribed. their perception is that it is safe. sanjay, i have to ask you a question. she's alleged to have xanax and
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valium. can you think of any condition to use all those medications? go ahead. >> i don't know, i heard xanax was in her bathroom. i hadn't heard about the other things. the point that is important. you always hear from the doctor when you get the pills, don't take this with alcohol. it's been a perception, it's not a great idea but i'll be fine if i do. >> i have taken things i shouldn't with alcohol and think how bad can it be. like an ambien. >> one in 20 people do this over the age of 12. drew, one of the things that is important, the one in 20 number is one in 20 take too much or in the wrong way or combine it. a lot of them are not addicts. the addicts may have a higher tolerance. maybe it takes more than
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somebody who doesn't do this and have an accidental overdoze. it's an important message. the average person thinks it's not a great idea but it's not going to kill me. >> whitney houston is not going to be doctor shopping. she doesn't have to shop. she should not have had the medication. three different kinds. if that's what was in the bathroom, neither you or i can think of a circumstance where any patient should have all three of those medications. >> the notion of the dangers of mixing a sleeping pill with two glasses of wine is eye-opening. we'll dig deeper into celebrity culture and how it's a force in the life of a recovering addict. follow me on twitter@andersoncooper. later video out of syria.
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prior to her death. dr. sanjay gupta is weighing in on this. one of the reasons we are covering the story beyond the tragedy of whitney houston. i was listening to her music last night. it hits you time and time again, what a tragedy this is. what a waste it is, regardless of the cause of her death. this is a larger story. the story of prescription abuse and the dangers of prescription drugs is important. >> absolutely. i have been -- >> i want to show you something celine dionne said. >> when you think of elvis presley and michael jackson and amy whinehouse, to get into drugs like that for whatever reason because of the stress and bad influence, what happens? what happens when you have
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everything? what happens when you have love, your family, support, motherhood? you have responsibilities of a mother, then something happens and it destroys everything. it's something i don't understand. i'm so scared. i'm so scared of showbiz and drugs. >> does that miss the point? is it about showbizness? >> this is the third night in a row i'm saying this on your show. i urge people to think back to the rock stars of the last 20 to 30 years who used drugs. the exception heroin, they are still with us. they are still alive. the ones who graduate to the prescription drug, the last five years we have seen a title wave of this. celine dionne is not an addict,
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but listed all the people who died. there are many, many more. they are all pharmaceutical deaths. what happens in hollywood is a reflect of what's going on in this country. >> we heart about it. it's happening every second and minute in the united states. you and i have talked about this, dr. drew. is there something that drives people to be a celebrity and in the public eye that is more likely to drive them to seek a high? >> yes. they do have more trauma. they tend -- explicit objective res research on this. yes, they have more trauma and the genetics of addiction. celebrity is a bid to solve that problem for them. as you know, celebrity ends up with power, sick offense surrounding them. when they manifest their problems, they progress more
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severely. the rest of us would have an employer. they are independent contractors. they don't have an employer that says hey, you are going to lose your job f you don't pull it together. they have power. if you remember deepak chopra told us how he confronted michael jackson and was dismissed. they have the power for their disease to progress. >> it does seem, sanjay, some doctors like having celebrities in their lives and may be more willing to prescribe them something just to, you know, keep them in their lives. >> yeah, we saw this with conrad murray. we heard it with other celebrities. there's doctors which we reported on they take a few patients, they are celebrities. they expect that doctor to essentially take care of them and get them the things they say they need.
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anderson, to your point earlier where you say there's a larger point, we talk about the celebrities because they are famous and perhaps because they have this access. there are a lot of people out there that have these sorts of problems. i can't express that enough. we talked about all these famous people but one in 20 are misusing the medications now. we may not hear about their deaths but one in 20 will die. the warning about don't misuse these drugs isn't a polite thing if you think about it, don't misuse it. it should say this could kill you. >> what is the advice? >> doctors don't say it but they need to. >> what is the advice if they are taking multiple things and they are not sure how it all -- is it just a question to your doctor? >> i think you need to be transparent. i don't want to condemn anybody in particular, but a lot of patients getting these
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medications is because they are getting, you know, someone to get xanax and another anti-ang sopsi ty medication are not bei forthright. a doctor would say why are you taking these medications? if you are not an addict and don't have a problem, i'm watching this stuff about whitney houston, i don't have to worry about this. yes, you do. the next time you think about it might be because you have had a catastrophic event because of combining and misusing these drugs. >> it is an eye opener. i'm not a drinker, but have an occasional wine. if i'm going to take an ambien one night, i poo-poo the alcohol/drug combination. >> this is the third time he's said ambien. maybe we need to pull him aside.
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>> i do occasionally when i travel on a plane. >> i heard that the first time. >> i am not an addict. >> you are a great example of how cautious someone must be. you are trying to use them intelligently. you saw the caution on the label, you are trying to be careful. i saw the label but i'm not driving a vehicle. you could be in harms way. >> really? >> let me say something about that, this illustrates a point. when you combine them, it's not just adding it. it becomes worse. it deals with a part of the brain that tells you to breathe so you don't have to think about it. regulates your heart beat. if it's tinkered with, this is more science than your audience may want to know, when you go to sleep, your drive to breathe may go away. it's potentially deadly.
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this has been known for awhile. >> your drive to breathe goes away. >> and also your swallowing mechanism becomes suppressed. they stop breathing. >> we keep having this conversation but i think it's an important conversation to have. again, it's a larger issue than just this one tragedy. dr. drew, i appreciate it. sanjay, i appreciate it, thanks. >> you got it. >> legitimately prescribed medication can kill. by the same token, it bears repeating. we do not yet know what happened in the case of whitney houston. itis important not to get ahead of the facts. one fact is clear, if prescription drugs played a role in the death of whitney houston, it is not the first time. in this video taken days before michael jackson's death, the king of pop rehearsing for an upcoming tour looks like a
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picture of physical health. but off stage, he was suffering from a crippling addiction to propofol or milk, as he called it. it was enabled by his doctor, conrad murray. >> i then decided to give it to him to get a couple hours of sleep so that he could produce it. i didn't want him to fail. >> just six months later, hollywood would be rocked by another death. actress britney murphy who played in "eight mile" and played the ugly duckling in "clueless." >> why m i listening to you to begin with? you are a virgin that can't drive. >> her death was an accident due
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to pneumonia, iron deficiency and drug intoxication. her husband and mother disputed the findings to larry king. >> for the record, my wife had not taken any drugs that could harm her that morning. that is for -- i will -- >> no drug overdose? >> please. britney was scared to take -- >> she never had a drug problem? >> there was keith ledger known for "broke back mountain." >> i wish i knew how to quit you. >> why don't you. -- why don't you let me be, huh? >> he died months before "the dark knight." they raved over him as the arch villain, the joker. >> no, no, you, you complete me.
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>> ledger died from an accidental overdose of painkillers, anti-anxiety drugs. he was only 28. singer amy winehouse's struggles with addiction were well known. ♪ >> but in the end, the singer wasn't done in by drugs in a ruling disputed by her father. the coroner said she died from accident alcohol poisoning. it isn't new. elvis presley, marilyn monroe, just to name a few. they have focused on hollywood's dirty little secret, doctors who make prescription drugs readily available to the stars. despite her history as an addict, doctors overprescribed her pills. >> there's some doctors out
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there, many doctors who may be enamored by a star. they are trying to please your client. you have to have stars on the other end using their fame to get the drugs. >> i'm sure that helps them to get the doctor to get whatever they want. i have been in that position myself. >> now, investigators also want to know, is that what happened to whitney houston? cnn, los angeles. still ahead tonight, family and friends of whitney houston are going to pay tribute to her saturday. the pastor delivering the eulogy joins me live. the one-sided war. using everything they have to crush their people. keeping them honest. [♪...]
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breaking news tonight, a source telling cnn whitney houston was seen drinking on the day she died. the official cause of death is not determined until toxicology reports come back. the funeral takes place saturday at her childhood church. it's where a young whitney houston sang in the choir, then soloed and grew into that voice. those to be there to pay tribute will be gospel royalty, bbbc,
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pastor marvin winans. they have been close for decades. here is whitney performing in 1989. ♪ >> that was whitney houston and the winans at the image awards. joining me, a member of the winans family, marvin winans. i appreciate you being with us, pastor. you and your family are so close to the houston family. how is your family doing and how is whitney's family doing? >> my mother, after we heard it
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said she felt as if she lost one of her children. i said mom, it's because you have. talking with cissy, i said mom, it's going to be all right. faith plays a great part in how we cope with uncertainties in life. it is not something that we run from in difficulty. it's something that we run to. so, by the grace of god, everyone is holding up well. >> you were there for her wedding and you are there for her coming home, a celebration of her life this weekend. how do you go about writing the words that you are going to say? i mean, do you know what you are going to say? >> well, it's -- it's about praying and, you know, folk will talk about doing the eulogy. my job is not that of a eulogist.
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my job is to speak on behalf of god as it relates to where we are and how we go further. we pray, we speak from our heart and allow the holy spirit to lead us to begin to minister hope and healing to those who are there. >> how do you give that? faith is important. in times like this, people question their faith and say, you know, why would a young woman be taken from us with such talent and such potential and life ahead of her? >> well, the wonderful thing about salvation is that it is a choice. as i was talking to some people the other day, i thought about an old gospel song that says we are our heavenly father's children and he loves us one and all. there are times we will answer to another's beck and call. so, salvation is constantly a choice. it is a constant vigil of doing
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the right things. it's not a blame game on god that somehow god just took whitney from us. it is a fact that we have choices and the choices we make may not be the best choices but just as a son or daughter may di disappoint their father doesn't mean he doesn't love them. >> you and i were talking before the show and i was asking what you want to get across. one of the things you said was really important. the importance of praising people and telling them how much you care about them and love them in their life, not just after they passed. >> it is amazing. we take life and love for granted so often. as you play that video of bb and cc, whitney was supposed to sing with the winans first. we ran into contract problems.
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we lost our brother ronald and whitney came and sat with us and rolled with us to the cemetery. that's what families do. we rally around each other when someone is hurting. we lay aside what we do professionally and find the time to be there. the power of presence is so great. so, people need to learn how to say i love you and i miss you. last week, whitney was alive. i was here preaching. there were no cameras. no one was calling me. since her death, you know, we are fighting off news agencies simply because they don't understand that we lost a sister. this is not a break or an opportunity. we are really hurting and seriously grieving. it amazes me the insensitivity
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or the media when it comes to things like this. >> i think, you know, often people see it as a news story and there's facts to get out for family in the epicenter of this, it's not a story, it is life and death. it's heart break. >> yeah. >> a heart break that never heals. >> it's someone that was there and now you can no longer speak to them. maybe you didn't tell them that you loved them. maybe if you had known, you would have did some things differently. so, there's a lot of questions, a lot of things that go through minds, why wasn't i there? why didn't i help? what if i picked up the phone? what if i went and got her? you have to reconcile all of that within yourself and you miss that person so greatly.
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>> there had been some discussion, i understand or talk publicly about a public service. obviously, this is going to be a private service. a lot of her fans wanted some sort of public service to take part in. for you, the importance of it being private and of it being family is clear? i don't think knowing cissy and the houston family, i don't think it was a matter of public or private as it was this is my daughter, this is my sister, this is my mother, this is my friend and we want to do this with dignity. we don't want to have a parade. we loved her when she was nippy in new jersey. the world loves her because of her voice but if nippy could not sing, the houston family would
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love her. i knew that momma houston would do it the way she wanted it done. we are going to church and we are not going to be worried about if the world can get in. we are going to lay our daughter to rest in the confines and the tradition of what we do. >> there's so many people around the world listening to her music and sadly now who weren't listening to it last week but i hope you know that -- and i hope the family knows there are countless people around the world sending their prayers. i wish you the best. it's going to be a difficult weekend for you. >> it will be difficult, but god answers prayer and prayer changes things, people and circumstances. >> pastor winans, i appreciate you being on tonight sir. >> thank you. >> we are going to look at politics coming up next. we want you to be part of the
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legalizing same-sex marriage. >> i said i think this is a national issue. we can't have two marriage laws. we have to have consistency in what marriage is. i think we need to have a national discussion about it and develop a national policy. >> it's not the first time he's talked about a national policy. his call for a national policy seems at odds about what he says is his strong support for state's rights. another issue, banning birth control, he argued for states having the rights to make their own laws. here he is talking about why it was wrong to overturn a connecticut law. >> i never questioned whether the state had the right to do it. it's not a constitutional right. the state has a right to pass whatever statutes they have. >> unless it's same-sex
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marriage. a poll shows santorum with a seven point lead over romney. an international poll shows republican enthusiasm about the election is faltering. president obama's approval rating climbed to 50% for the first time in eight months. we have a former white house press secretary for george w. bush. and seen your strategist of priorities usa action. the romney super pac came out with ads attacking santorum. we saw what happened when g gingrich was the focus of the ads. do you think santorum is different? do you think it's going to chip away at santorum? >> oh, yeah. if you do the advertising properly, it picks up on what people are inclined to believe about a candidate for better or for worse.
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there are vulnerabilities with santorum. romney is going to expose them. that is part of running for office. santorum needs to show he can take a shot, give a shot. >> listening to the alleged political experts over the last several months, on paper, there's no way santorum should be in this position. he doesn't have a campaign headquarters, really. a lot of passionate followers. the fact he is in this position, does that tell you that maybe republicans really are enthusiastic about the election after what the polls show? >> well, i don't know if they are enthusiastic about the election. state by state, the turnout is lower than 2008 when the primary was really competitive. this time around, santorum benefits from the fact republicans are having a tough time coalescing around romney. conservatives don't trust him
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because his record doesn't match up with what he's saying on the campaign trail this time around. on the spending, romney and romney super pac have a lot up in the air. when romney and the superpac and allies spend a lot of money, romney does well. when they don't, he doesn't. santorum's superpac is matching them dollar for dollar in michigan. >> do you buy there's a lack of enthusiasm? >> i think there's a lack for romney. a lot of the santorum vote is anti-romney vote. they are hoping santorum is who they want. there's a lot of question about everything with his record that people don't know. he's largely unknown. he's filling in the blanks. he's in a rush to fill them in before romney does it for him. i think there's been a decline in republican enthusiasm since
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fall. it's how republicans are going after each other. i anticipate it's going to build up once they have a nominee. it's going to be exciting once they do. as for turnout, it's hard to measure. florida is a big quirk because of a 2008 ballot that brought out hundreds of thousands of people that don't vote presidential. missouri, four years ago, had it been a real primary, this year was a beauty contest. if you compare the two states, there's a huge drop off. without that, you have record outcome in new hampshire and south carolina. it's inconclusive. >> i want to ask this question. if santorum wins michigan, will he take on the beloved front-runner status or will it remain with romney? >> i think it remains with romney. he has organization. he's getting on the ballot everywhere. the fact that nobody is
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contesting romney in arizona is a huge issue. the press is going to focus on michigan because it's where a fight takes place. if you are romney, you are chalking up delegates. people aren't taking me on in arizona which has a primary the same night as michigan. >> if romney cannot win in michigan where his father has a long history, where he was born, it could be crippling for him, no? >> i think it's a problem for romney. i don't think the issue is whether or not he wins the nomination, he's the only candidate who has the infrastructure to bring it to the end. if he loses michigan, which is not looking great, a big problem could be his fund raising drys up a bit and he's not able to have the kind of impact in a campaign he needs to have throughout the primary. in 2008, president obama and hillary clinton went through this. the president built support in almost every single state.
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tonight, president assad is calling for a national vote on a draft constitution that he says contains reforms. critics say it's window dressing. at least 32 more people were killed today. this little boy running from sniper fire. you can hear the shots being fired. a man runs after him, carries the boy to safety.
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video from a damascus suburb shows them lying down next to an army tank. we can't verify the reports because they won't let us in. arwa damon is there in homs. here is what she said. i know you saw a patient who had a brain injury. pieces of this man's brain came out of his head. they sewed back his head up to keep it inside. he needed to get out and will die if he doesn't. >> reporter: he will. he's not the only one in there in that kind of dire condition. there was another young volunteer at the clinic who has been injured in one of the strikes on the clinic itself. he was in an incredibly difficult situation. we later on heard that he had -- he didn't make it. it's because he wasn't able to
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receive the medical care he needed. the nurse tending to him was 27 years old. she was also a volunteer, crying out, wanting to know how it was the international community could watch human beings die and do nothing. she pointed to the young man pressing his head saying this is a human being. this is not something made of stone. life has value. how is it in the 21st century the world can watch and let this massacre take place. >> you have covered a lot of places where violence is happening and suffering is happening. how does this compare? >> reporter: it doesn't, anderson. it really doesn't. on the one hand, yes, we are covering all the conflicts you come across. death you come across. sorrow, you come across. atrocities. what we have witnessed happening inside syria does not compare to anything that's taken place in any other country, whether you
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compare it to the other revolutions across the middle east or the other types of violence and various conflict zones. what's happening here, it's very difficult to put it into words, anderson. the level of dispair. what's happening. how one-sided the war it is. you have a massive pow er that s the syrian government using every single tool at its disposal to crush the opposition that really, as they put it is crying out for freedom. we hear all the stories of children being massacred at the hands of the regime. no one being spared. you can't compare it to anything else. >> arwa, stay safe. thank you. arwa damon. susan hendricks joins us with the 360 news bull ten. >> advances in the nuclear program. iran's president to view what
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