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documentary called "lenny." everybody is entitled to an opinion political or otherwise and i'm not telling anybody who to like. they're both very personal decisions. personally i can't wait to see how the republican candidates start courting the head-banger votes now that we know a lot of endorsements are not set in stone or more appropriately, set in rock. erin burnett "out front" starts now. days after her get, details about whitney's final hours continuing to emerge. what was found in her hotel room. let's go "outfront.
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good evening. out front tonight, iran's threat to the united states in the united states. right here at home. now, as we said last night, no one buys iran's claim that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. today on capitol hill, james clapper drove that message home. >> iran's technical advances particularly in uranium enrichment strengthen our assessment that iran is more than capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon if its political leaders chooses to do so. >> he also said that iran has the largest supply of ballistic missiles in the middle east and that they could one day be capable of carrying weapons of mass destruction. this is footage of iran's test missiles which they do like on show to the world to show the tower of their program and the country is working in intercontinental ballistic missiles, as well, developing
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them to deliver for 2,000 miles. 1kw5 1kw50irk9sz will tell to fire 2,000 miles. 12k3w4r50i6r7b8g9sds own i and consider this, high ranking israeli official said earlier this month that iran is working on missiles with a range of some 6,000 miles. that is far enough to hit the united states of america. now, an expert that we spoke with said that fitting an intercontinental ballistic missile could take months or years. but it is important to note that experts also tell us that israel may be exaggerating iran's long range missile capability. but on a smaller but perhaps much more real and frightening scale, iran could attack the united states in a much more fearsome way. the top intelligence officer for the new york police department, the nypd, said this week in an op-ed that iran's next target could be here in the nation's largest city. given iran's increasingly rhetoric, the nypd must remain vigilant in attempting to detect and disrupt any attack by iran or its proxies.
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the intelligence officer calls this no idle threat. and remember this fall, the u.s. government says iran was planning it to bomb a crowded restaurant in washington, d.c. the target was this man, saudi arabia's ambassador to the united states. but perhaps 100 or more americans would have died, too. the defendant is an american of iranian descent and he stands trial. this week the iranian government is suspected of carrying out bombing attacks against israeli diplomats in thailand, india and the republic of georgia. the question is, will iran strike inside the united states. out front tonight, peter king, chairman of the house committee on homeland security. good to talk to you, sir. i know that you have been briefed and obviously mr. clapper has briefed you on many of the details and you've been told there is no specific plot at this time. are you satisfied with the intelligence you've been
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getting? >> i am. because even though there is no specific plot, the intelligence community does believe that an attack could very well happen. right now a threat from iran, possible attack from iran, is the greatest threat we face and every threat is being tracked down. so while there is no specific threat, we're assuming -- we have to assume that one could occur. and i agree totally that we have to assume that hezbollah would be the proxy for iran and could well carry out the attack. so i'm convinced everyone is working 24/7 on this. >> and has it changed? you're saying that iran is the greatest threat for a terror attack in the united states. whether they do it through hezbollah proxy or otherwise. has that changed, has the recent rhetoric and conversation raised that threat level or not? >> it really hasn't. several things.
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one is the tremendous tension in the middle east with israel and iran and the fact that iran is getting so close to having a weapon, nuclear weapon. secondly is the fact that back in december, we stopped the plot of the attack -- or the assassination attempt on the saudi ambassador which would have killed hundreds of americans. that was crossing a red line. and all the chatter out there, just the general consensus among everyone in the intelligence community is that right now iran and hezbollah would be the number one threat to the united states. unlike al qaeda, which is still a very serious threat or at least the offshoots are, hezbollah is a state trained terrorist organization. that is really the major leagues of terrorism. if iran launched hezbollah, there's a real concern. >> and if the united states were to -- when you have these conversations with security officials, if they were to arm
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the opposition in syria, a place iran has been very involved, does that put america and americans at home at greater risk of these sorts of attacks in your view? >> yes it does. that can't be enough to stop us from doing whatever we have on do, but the tightening of the sanctions increases the risk. if we get engaged with syria or with iran, then, yes, that definitely increases the likelihood that iran and/or hezbollah would strike within the united states. we're assuming that. we're assuming which is why we're trying to monitor everyone in this country who is associated with hezbollah. other facilitators. we'll monitoring carefully. >> do you think there could already be an iranian or hezbollah sleeper cell in the united states given there will have been reports and again unconfirmed that iran could have been involved in those bombing targets in the past few days for israeli officials overseas?
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>> we have to assume that they are. that's certainly what he was making clear in the "wall street journal." this is what iran has done in argentina. certainly what they're doing overseas in thailand and india, georgia. so, no, we have to assume that and again, we hope no, but we assume they do and that's why i can tell you there is a tremendous amount of counterterrorism activity by all the elements of intelligence right across the board and also state and local. >> i'm wondering, some people say the receipt or vehicle overblown, you all keep talking about this, that's part of the problem. what do you say to those criticisms? that this is more about rhetoric than reality. >> no, and -- i'm republican in saying this. i have no reason to be defending
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a democratic administration for political reasons. when you have people like general clapper ad general petraeus, when you have really across the board in the intelligence community and this administration, all the leaders saying how concerned they are about an attack from a iran, when you have the nypd which has the best local counterterrorism unit in the entire country which also works 24/7 and you see what iran is doing oversea, we would be negligent in not talking about it because it's important to alert local governments, local communities, especially if anyone in their community sees any activity or sees anything unusual to call the police, call the fbi. >> well, thank you very much. we appreciate it. with the gop split with romney and santorum, the dream for some, the nightmare for others, isn't that the way things are in life? a brokered convention. and is this the moment chris christie has been waiting for? and two years after he tried on blow up a plane, the underwear bomber is finally sentenced today. and should a man who murdered his two children and himself be allowed to be buried next to them?
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santorum dropped out. this came on the same day that a michigan poll came out saying the santorum threat in romney's home state is rising. romney has some really weakness with the republican rank and file. and adding to the uncertainty in the race is the likelihood of texas with a massive 155 delegates delaying its primary from april 3rd, it could be late may. some saying even later. the date is contested still. now, it's still early to talk about a possible brokered convention, but that hasn't stopped us from doing it frankly for the past several months. all right. no candidate win as majority of the delegates needed. there's a magic number. nobody gets to it and the contest goes all the way to the convention in august. then the contest goes all the >> we would be looking at a brokered convention. nobody is quite there yet. so i think that months from now if that's the case, then, you know, all bets are off as to who it will be willing to offer themselves up in the name of service to their country.
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i would do whatever i could to help. >> um. i think i know what she was saying, right? am i missing something? all right. for history guys, last time we had a brokered convention, 1952 for democrats, '48 for republicans. john, let's go through the scenarios first. first, if romney gets the necessary delegates, when do we know? >> we were playing with the cnn delegate calendar just to create a sense of the dimensions. to give us a sense of how far this is from being done. if mitt romney won all the contests, all the delegates starting with the 28th, it would take until april 3rd. >> and that involves him winning georgia and a whole lot of other places. >> ain't going to happen. same number it would take rick santorum if he won everything
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until april 24th. >> april 24th. okay. and neither one of those scenarios is likely. >> ain't going to happen. >> here's what's interesting. if you took romney and santorum and split the delegates today, split all the proportional states 50/50 and split up the winner take all states, half and half, you actually get a situation where nobody wins the 1144 necessary. mitt romney would come up just short at 1136. that is a step to a brokered convention. add in ron paul, going to stay in the race, the point is, it has gone from simply being an overheated political fantasy to a dim possibility. mathematically, you work with the numbers, this could actually happen. >> a fantasy for some is a nightmare for others. so which is it for you? >> i think the dream scenario for a lot of people is that you suddenly get in some other candidate, some fantasize about chris christie, some say mitch daniels, and that person would
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swoop in and save the republican party from itself at the last minute. the problem is these are all guys who knocked around the idea, thought about it, decided not to do it. these are all people with their own skeletons in the closet. i think you'll have a battered and bruised nominee. if you get to a brokered convention, they'll have to hammer out some kind of deal that will make any candidate look very compromised. so i think it's more bad news. >> republicans not accepting the really difference the fact that they've got what they've got, they kind of know he what they've got. is that a brokered convention where they can't face that reality in time, is that good for you, are you salivating at that idea? >> first of all, i think a lot of republicans have faced with the reality as we just heard. this thing has gone from bad to just down right awful for them. if there was a way, if i was a republican, i would just say let's just stop right now. just take a time-out, let's think about this thing for a week and come back and try plan b. because plan a is not going well
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here, guys. i'm not sure that some kind of -- what i thought about is maybe somebody does get in late and wins the last five or six primaries and looks strong when they come into tampa. at this point, there are more bad things that could happen than good things. and if you're a democrat, that is a good thing. >> but coming in at the last minute, say you miss the southern primaries. let's play the chris christie scenario out for a second. you don't have him going in the south because he's too pro gun control. you come in to a lot of the northern states. what happens about someone gets in after super tuesday? >> it's actually too late to get on the ballot in the vast majority of states. >> so you can't even get on the ballot? >> right. so any fantasy scenario involves a long ball attempt. it would involve a brokered convention. remember, all delegates are released after the first ballot. we haven't seen those kind of
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politics in a long time. so keep hope alive if you want to, folks. but it's going to be tampa, it won't be before. >> we like to speculate. what's wrong with that? maybe the guy gets on -- christie's big problem is remember he repeatedly said the reason he didn't run is that he was not ready to be president. that's -- it's one thing if you say i'm not running and then you get in. that happens all the time. i don't know how voters would react to that. but it's not looney to think that they could get to tampa. get there without somebody at 1144. >> james carville, what about sarah palin? i mean, who knows. she's on tv a lot, but it sure sounded to me like she was saying she would step up to the plate if needed. >> if we're talking about fantasizing, that would be something.
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president obama is the luckiest man that i know of. even he's not that lucky. oh, please, let that happen. that's a two stage scenario. now you have utah and south carolina maybe. >> so here's the thing. if romney is wounded, if delegates are released, then it will matter who romney supports, right? so who has been his most effective surrogate. chris christie has been an effective surrogate, but who has bob mcdonnell, a guy who ran a very formidable campaign, very effective on romney's behalf. >> it's hard because no one nationally knows who he is. >> that's fair, but the thing is that romney again, what's going to happen is who do they want to release their delegates too. >> we're getting way out front here. but the point is, what's significant -- >> it's a verb. >> the point here is that the math is a real problem for republicans right how. it's not a joke anymore.
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with texas moving back, it becomes harder and harder for any candidate to clinch this realistically until late may or june and there are scenarios in place where nobody gets to 1144. that nightmare or fantasy is not impossible. >> some fantasies are nightmares. >> that's right. >> we talked about chris christie and he is in the midst of another controversy. he said he'll fly new jersey's flags at half-staff for whitney houston. critics say is he celebrating a junky, disrespecting those for who the honor -- whom it should be -- is reserved. christie responded on twitter "i'm not say has gone whitney houston is a role model. what she is cultural icon in the history of this state. smart politics? >> absolutely. chris christie is running in a very urban state and already at
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a big disadvantage. he has to demonstrate that he's in tune with the times and people of my generation for whom she was just the role model of female dignity. and i think that it would be crazy of him not to. so i think this was a very good move and it demonstrates that he's a more broad minded political figure. >> what do you think, james? >> i agree completely. that is a very good point. i think the governor -- i didn't realize until 170 million album, my god, you know, tragic the way that her life went toward the end obviously, but he's not celebrating that. i agree with the governor. i think he made a good point. >> it is interesting the political point it make, but it is a state that is very proud of its magicians. bruce springsteen -- >> bruce is coming to jazz fest. >> yes, he is. he's closing out sunday.
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that's true. >> my man quinton, he gets everybody down there. >> but it's the governor's job to build the state, so jersey pride. >> and it shows one thing we know, he loves his state. >> yes, he does. >> got to be a thing who are governors of states in which they were not born. all right. thanks to all of you. good to see you. life in prison. that is the sentence for the so-called underwear bomber. now, you remember this. it was christmas day in 2009 when farouk abdulmutallab hid a bomb in his underwear and boarded a northwest airlines flight in amsterdam. as the plane neared detroit, he tried but failed to detonate the bomb. instead flames shot to the roof of the plane and it set off widespread panic. now, you remember that passengers on that plane especially after 9/11, they stepped up, they restrained him, they fought back. flight attendants fought to put out the blaze and the plane landed safely. for the sentencing today,
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prosecutors showed for the first time video of what could have happened if the plot worked. and you're seeing some of that now. frightening images. and i remember that christmas day because i got the call to go to nigeria to report on abdulmutallab. spent time at his family's house and people close to him at the time said they were incredibly embarrassed. the whole country of nigeria was humiliated and embarrassed by this. joining me now is deb, she was inside the courtroom. what was his demeanor, how did he react? >> he was virtually emotionless. he stared straight ahead making eye contact only with his lawyer. you have to understand, this was a packed courtroom. but as that bomb video was played, he said allahu akbar, god is great, god is great. and he did have an opportunity to give a statement and he said proud to kill, that's what i did.
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now, his parents, they were in detroit and they actually planned to come here and be in that room. they decided at the last minute not to. but his lawyer says that they do want to see him. they understand it could very well be the last time they do. certainly before he's sent way to a super max prison, erin. >> just you recounting how he reacted and what he said, i think it makes everyone's stomach turn. it was awful and disgusting. i know abdulmutallab chose to act as his own attorney, but the court assigned him an attorney and i know you had a chance to speak with anthony chambers after the sentencing. what did he have to say about his client? >> he wasn't surprised. first of all, he wasn't surprised by the sentencing. he said that he and abdulmutallab spoke about appealing a couple of days ago because they sort of realized it was a foregone conclusion that he would be serving life. but he says his client stands by his convictions. >> he has not apologized or given any indication of being remorseful, i would agree with
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that. he seems to be committed to what he did and to a cause. >> and, erin, also just hearing his own lawyer say, look, me and abdulmutallab, we didn't talk about politics and we didn't talk about religion. he knows that what abdulmutallab did he still continues to believe it was the right thing, that it was a blessed thing that he did by trying to bring that plane down with all 289 people aboard. >> there were 289 people aboard and i know that -- i remember talking to some of them at the time and sort of the fear that they couldn't believe how close they had come. i know that six of help spoke before the sentencing. let's just listen quickly to one of them. >> everybody was scared we was about to die. we thought that the plane is going on blow up in a few seconds. but somehow by the grace of god we were saved on that day. so for one moment, we thought we were going all die and we were
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in tears but we landed safely. so today is a today to serve the justice. >> how emotional were some of the victims in court as they heard him say that allahu akbar? >> they were very emotional because they understand just how close they came to dying. now, the woman you heard there, it was interesting. she says she still remembers the smell of his flesh burning. remember this was a device sewn in his undergarments. it sent flames climbing up the wall of the plane. at one point she said umar, look at me, she said i have sons. she said i forgive you. which was fascinating. there was another delta flight attendant, the one who actually put out the flames, he was so emotional, he said he still has nightmares and this dream job he had traveling the world, he said there's no joy in it for him anymore.
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and still a third said my family and i, we pray for you. we pray for you, umar farouk abdulmutallab. >> that's amazing she said she forgave him. we have new details about whitney houston's final hours. that's next. and then amanda knox. she's home. and she sold her memoir. we have the number. and should josh powell be allowed to be buried next to his children? the ones he murdered. [ degeneres ] what's more beautiful than a covergirl? two covergirls. that's right. get two miracles in one product.
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we start the second half of our show with carries that we care about. we focus on our work and do the work. first tonight, iran's threat to the united states. national intelligence director james clapper said iran is on its way to producing a nuclear weapon and this comes as there are fears and a report in the intelligence community that says iran could carry out an attack on american soil. a top intelligence official for the nypd says new york city is a possible target. i asked peter king about how serious the threat is. >> even though there is no specific plot, the intelligence community does believe that an attack could very well happen.
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right now a possible attack from iran is the greatest threat we face. and every threat stream is being tracked down. so while there is no specific threat, we're assuming -- we have to assume that one could occur. that's why the nypd and by the way i agree totally with mitch silva that we have to assume that hezbollah would be the proxy for iran. so i'm convinced cia, fbi, plus local police are work 24/7 on this. >> number two, an extension of the payroll tax cut through the end of the year ready for a vote. we have learn congressional negotiators have signed off on an agreement. republicans dropped their request to have spending cuts pay for the extension of the tax cut. the congressional budget office says the deal will add $89 billion to america's debt. a vote could come tomorrow. number three, harper collins has acquired the rights to publish amanda knox's memoir.
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the book will likely be published next year. they wouldn't comment how much she was being paid but local reports said she could be paid $4 million. knox kept diaries while in prison. she was convicted of murdering her roommate but later cleared and released. number four, jobless claims dropped to a four year low, much lower than anyone was looking for. initial jobless claims coming in at 348,000. if this trend continues, we could see monthly jobs reports show 200,000 or more new jobs added every month. it has been 195 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? lower than expected inflation data, better than expected housing numbers could help. sent the dow higher by 123 points today. just over 12,900. and that is the highest we have seen since may of 2008. whitney houston's funeral will be in newark on saturday. it's going to be a star studded
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affair with a guest list which includes kevin costner, chaka khan, and bobby brown. there will be performances by stevie wonder and aretha franklin. and it will be broadcast live here on cnn. five days after she died, details continue to emerge about her final days. in addition to being seen drinking by the hotel pool before 10:00 in the morning, sources say investigators found xanax and amoxicillin if her room. now, whether she was taking those when she died is still unknown. but for those who knew houston, these developments are disturbing but frankly, not surprising. roberta flack has known houston and her family for decades and she spoke out for the first time since houston's death. i spoke to her earlier and asked her why she chose to come out front now. >> i wanted a chance to talk about her artistry, you know. i think that's what we need to be stressing at this time.
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there's so much been written, not only since her unfortunate passing, but even before, so many negative things about whitney and all the bad news. and the real point is that she was a great talent, had a very unique singing voice and style. and could just wipe you out with her voice. >> such an incredible thing. and there's a feeling because of dugs, she could hurt her voice. i want to play for you her performing with kelly price just a couple of days ago. ♪ >> it's hard to listen to. and i've heard it. they've been playing that. and, okay, if that's the way we
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want to remember her. i don't. i don't. when i want to remember whitney, i play all of those songs that were big hits for her. the greatest love of all, saving all my love for you, run to you from the bodyguard, where she talks about the need to run to somebody who can save her, you know. and i'm thinking could there ever have been a time or point in her performance of that song when she really felt that she needed to -- and i'm sure the answer is yes even before i ask the question. that she really felt she needed to run somewhere. so she could be safe. and of course i know her mother, so i know she was safe there. >> are you angry, though, that people didn't intervene and angry -- i mean, angry that such a beautiful voice could end up like we heard? >> i'm not angry. i'm confused.
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because i think that there was enough written about her to warn all of us in the sense that something needed to be done. we needed to step up. >> did you ever think yourself about stepping in some were you aware of the problems, did you ever feel you wanted to but were afraid to? >> absolutely. >> because a lot of people who don't have famous people in their lives like whitney houston are afraid to step in. >> even with someone like myself, i'm sure that there were a number of people, even people, relatives -- >> when did you last think about i should say something or i want to say something? >> well -- to whitney? i wouldn't say anything to whitney. i probably would have gone around to clive davis who i know fairly well or even to her mom to say is there anything. but, you know, there's certain things that we understand between each other in the black community anyway and in the american community. and a lot of it has to do with say out of their business, you know. that kind of attitude.
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>> that's why you didn't. >> i wouldn't say it's not why -- it certainly had a lot to do with me being hesitant. >> did cissy know? >> yes. and i spoke to cissy today. which is why i'm going to the funeral. >> and she's heartbroken about it? >> she's strong. cissy sang with me in the '70s. did back up for me as well as many other artists. she's a strong person. i think if she wasn't strong, whitney wouldn't have lasted and had the enormous success. >> might not have gotten as far as she did. >> got her singing chops from her mom. >> she said her addiction was to food, she would eat and eat and eat. she said drugs are the new fried chicken.
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and we go inside sear syria. we spoke to arwa damon in homs, in the center of it. and josh powell murdered himself and his children and now he wants to be buried next to them. ♪ ( whirring and crackling sounds )
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we do this at the same time every night, our outer circle. we reach out to our sources around the world and tonight, syria. shelling opposition groups in homs and more bloodshed. 70 people were killed today. arwa damon took a tour of the neighborhood that has been completely destroyed at the center of the violence. >> reporter: we were touring through the neighborhood. and the devastation is widespread. there's rubble strewn against many streets. it is incredibly challenging. we have memorized and we have mapped out mentally where all the known government positions are on various routes so they can shoot into various streets.
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government forces are however on the outskirts of the neighborhood and bombarding it from out there. you see hardly any civilians around. many of them are staying indoors. >> and arwa, yesterday you talked about children that you had seen obviously you were talking to a lot of people with horrific injuries unable to get medical care. did you see more of that today? >> reporter: we did not see anyone who was injured today, but we did actually go into one of the make shift bunkers that has been set up in various parts and families are piled on top of one another, women and children, and the most chilling thing about it is you walk in and everyone swarps around you. they just swarm around you. people are pulling at you because everyone has the story of a loved one who died, everyone has a desperate plea for help. there are such shortages when it comes to food and medicine. children are getting sick. can't even get basics like cough
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medicine, pain killers, and that sort of stuff. and it's a humanitarian tragedy. it's just reached unimagined portions. >> you can tell us what it's been like every day to get food, to sleep? to have heat? what's it been like for you? >> we've been living ever since we got here pretty much -- you eat whatever is available. a slice of bread or a bit of rice. you have to even smuggle bread in because flour and other supplies have been cut off to many of the areas known to be points for the opposition. you sleep on the floor with a blanket if you sleep at all. and we've only been doing this for a few days. these activists have been doing this for months and months on end and that's not to mention the ongoing shelling, the gun fire, the daily risk that they take to their lives. we come out of these locations and get back to our homes.
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and the power has actually cut on out and that is yet another thing that they have to deal with here. the day-to-day bravery is hard to put into words. >> and so is arwa's bravery there. >> this just adds insult to injury. josh powell burying him next to his two young sons after he brutally killed them and committed suicide in this home. powell's family tried on buy a burial plot for josh in the same cemetery as his sons. the maternal grandparents threatened to sue. a group of local police officers bought plots on either side on prevent powell from being buried next to his children. miguel, i know you have news from the family. >> yeah, terry powell, the mother of josh powell, released a statement a short time ago saying finally relenting on this, perhaps there is some decency in this case, saying we
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love our little charlie and braden and we want their resting place to be a place of peace and comfort. we have made the determination that josh will not be buried at woodbine cemetery and are in the process of making other arrangements. in addition to all the things you talked about, the outrage out there, what may have turned the tide on this is a shred of decency, a call from charles cox, the father of susan powell, to terri powell, and he asked her, don't do this. the kids don't want it. our family doesn't want it. the town doesn't want it. she relented. and now josh powell will be buried somewhere else. >> all right. miguel, thank you very much. you're right, at least nice to hear one part of decency in that horrific story. general motors posted its highest profit ever. really? we'll get to the bottom of that. and the man with the golden touch. groupon, flicker, facebook, linkedin, he got in all of them
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general motors earned the largest profit ever last year, two years after we know it almost collapsed into utter ruin. strong sales helped gm earn $7.6 billion last year that beat the old record of the late 1990s. as part of the bankruptcy bailout, taxpayers own 30% of gm stock and we, the taxpayers are still in the red. to break even, those shares need to trade around $59 each. that brings us to tonight's number, $27.17. that's where gm stock closed today. yeah, we can get there. we have a long way to go, baby. >> reid hoffman got into groupon
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so just six years ago, tonight's guest was living in silicon valley make millions. his company was struggling. he kept at it and invested in 80 start ups like groupon, and was one of the first investors in facebook. his own company, linked in went public and made him $1.7 billion. he wrote a book called "the start-up of you." tonight, he came out front. >> how did i get to be like me? >> right. >> i think the key thing is for
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everyone to think seriously about how they invest in themselves. how do they essentially take their career and life seriously, whatever their aspirations are. if it's to be a product inventor or investor or a runner of a bookstore, anything else, invest in yourself. take the notion that you are a business. you are the ceo of your own life, the entrepreneur of your own life. >> in your book, you talk about this. >> yes. >> do i have to be like you? honestly, you are a genius. can i ask you a question, you have a college degree in symbolic systems. i don't know what that is. >> cogno science. >> your first job? >> at a game company. >> you are really, really, really smart. can people who aren't as smart as you do it? >> i think for sure. the notion is everyone can invest in themselves and make
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themselves better. it's one of the things i love about the silicon valley. can everyone aspire to be an inventor of major companies? no. >> be pragmatic. don't just have a dream and assume it's going to happen? >> no, you have to invest in it. in a globalized world, there's competition, transformation. a billboard we saw was a million people can do your job, what makes you special? it's a good question to ask and how do you develop it? i'm the right person for this and this job. >> so, here's a question to you. you were wrt $1.7 billion after linked in. that doesn't count the facebook thing that's about to come your way. how did it feel? you grew up -- your father was a lawyer. you didn't come from nothing. it's different now. does it feel different?
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>> no, for me, this is all about how do you lead a good life? how do you have a meaningful life? how do i play a role in society. so, i don't really actually use any of that. it's tools for things i do in the world it's nothing about who i am. i'm no better than anyone else and no worse, hopefully. i think the only thing that changes is your palette of tools in terms of what kind of impacts. what responsibilities do you have to make changes in your world? >> how do you feel about that now that you have the means to fill the responsibility in a way others don't? >> it makes me feel responsible and bewildered. i'm always thinking about those things. it's one of the reasons i have