>> so the laugh doctor from curious and unusual deaths says that laughter reduces stress, boosts the immune system, releases pain, decreases anxiety and a host of benefits so i guess that's the good news as long as you can stop before it gets too dangerous. that does it for us. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. the red line america says iran cannot cross. is it close, and what will america do about it? and new developments in the shooting at an ohio school, and the football coach who chased him out. >> and a rutgers student who filmed his roommate in a sexual encounter and then his roommate committed suicide. shood ravi be held accountable? let's go outfront. good evening, i'm erin burnett.

"outfront" tonight, a shady red line. a red line the whole world is watching. the red line is a line that the obama administration and members of congress say iran cannot cross. listen to this. >> always keep all of our capabilities ready in the event that those red lines are crossed. >> that signaled an intention by iran to cross the red line. >> the fact they are active here has crossed a red line. >> the problem is when someone tells you there's a red line you can't cross or else, two things matter. where exactly is the line? and what exactly will happen to you if you cross it? defense secretary pennetta has stated the obvious. getting a nuclear weapon crosses the line, and today, an obama administration official who would only discuss this sensitive issue anonymously got a little more specific, telling cnn's security blog that iran moving toward 90% uranium

enrichment is potentially a red line that could trigger american action. but how far toward? right now, iran is enriching uranium to 20%. 20% is required to operate nuclear power plants and iran insists its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes. they tell outfront getting to 90% weapons grade levels of uranium enrichment would be quicker from 20% than from 0% to 20% in the first place. they could do it, get from 20% to 90% and a nuclear weapon in a few months frau now, and anything about 20% isn't useful for anything but building towards a nuclear weapon. is toward 90% enriched uranium above what the iranians have

now, and how would the united states even know what iran is doing since they haven't allowed weapons inspectors into key facilities? the red line needs to be defined more clearly. oil prices have surged on the uncertainty, impacting all americans. and iranians continue to be planned by crippling sanctions which would end if they proved they were not building a weapon or had any intent to do so. this is why the eyes of the world will be in a high-staked, high pressure meeting between netanyahu and president barack obama in washington. at this hour, netanyahu is on a plane, en route to north america, ready to make demands. two israeli newspapers, are reporting that israel will ask the u.s. to define the red line clearly and deliver an explicit warning to iran if they cross the line. netanyahu wants the answers to be issued in a statement after

he meets with president obama. >> well, how will the united states respond to its important ally, israel. i asked robert menendez in just a moment, but first, cnn has gained rare access into tehran, just the day before its first national election since the disputed 2009 presidential election. ivan watson is there tonight, and just before the show, i spoke to him and asked whether the iranian government's anti-u.s. rhetoric and message has been rubbing off on the people he's been speaking to there. >> well, you know, everybody that i talked to around iran and every time i have been here, is always incredibly friendly. even people who really view the u.s. as a mortal threat to iran. tend to be kind and friendly. here is an example, this tuesday night, i was detained here with our camera crew while filming some campaign posters, and the guy who detained us, a militia officer, accused me of hurting

his government. i bumped into this guy in the bazaar today, surprised him, and he is a shop keeper there. that's his day job. he sells buttons and zippers. and he kissed me on both cheeks and gave me his phone number. that shows some of the contradictions here. there are more restrictions, however, for american journalists and some suspicion here. we weren't allowed to bring satellite telephones in, which we have been able to do in the past to make our broadcasts. and we have come under some pressure on that front for moving around. another example, tomorrow, with the friday vote, the first election i have ever covered anywhere in the world where i'm being bussed to the polling stations along with other invited journalists. not being exactly allowed to move around freely on election day. >> wow, that's a very interesting anecdote. last but not least, ivan, sanctions. the government obviously keen to

say they are not hurting us, not affecting us, but what are you seeing on the ground? >> there's no question that the country is going through a period of economic hardship. the value of the iranian currency has plummeted over the last four months. nearly 50%, according to some estimates. against the dollar. inflation has grown. iranians are seeing that their money goes half as far when it comes to importing foreign goods or if they want to travel outside of the country. it's not clear whether that is a direct consequence of the tougher u.s. and european sanctions against iran. that i have not been able to fathom at this time. but there is no question there is more economic hardship right now. what is remarkable, erin, is to be able to walk around tyronn, a country that has seen its currency lose so much of its value, and not to see chaos or problems in the streets, that is

pretty much life as usual, though people are feeling economic pressure right now. >> all right, ivan watson, thank you very much. reporting from tehran tonight. a rare opportunity for a journalist who was able to get into iran. thanks. and now joining me, senator robert menendez, democrat on the foreign relations committee. thanks for taking the time. >> great to be here. >> prime minister netanyahu is on a plane to the united states. he's going to meet with president barack obama. there are reports that president obama is considering in his speech at the big apack suppic to outline the red line that iran cannot cross. do you think he'll do so in a bullet pointed way? >> i don't think it will be bullet pointed. what we share in common with our partner, the state of israel, is that we seek to prevent iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, not simply to contain it. the only difference between us

and the israelis is the question of timing. >> and so let me ask you this question because this is where i get confused. you develop a weapon, that's a red line. but as we were talking about today with government sources telling cnn, going towards90% enrichment, that's crossing the red line. anything above 20% is going in that direction. how do you define it? how would you define it? >> clearly, going beyond the 20%, headed to 90% is the march toward nuclear weapons, but it's under the atomic energy supervision, so we would have a good sense between our intelligence and the intelligence of our alies that the iranians are headed in that direction. that would evoke the opportunity for us to act. the difference is u.s. military capacity is far beyond those of some of our allies so our timeframe is more ultimate.

>> you could wait longer. >> and we want these sanctions, the legislation that i passed that became law to actually continue to bite. you saw the report of your colleague, and clearly, there's no other reason for iranian currency to be so devaluated except for the sanctions. >> one thing i want to ask you because i know you get frequent intelligence briefings. weapons inspectors from the iaea were not given access to all of the facilities they wanted last week, and i pulled a couple pictures from the center for strategic international studies. as you can see, the building right now, this is how it looks. okay, and now, look at it a couple years ago. and we'll show you how it looked. and what you see there is buildings that anything that is happening is now happening underground. are you confident that we have the intelligence to know what

they're doing, when they're doing it, and when they cross the line if they're going to cross the line? >> we have the greatest intelligence that we have had on our own capabilities, as well a what we're sharing with the greatest cooperation that has existed between the state of israel and the united states in both military and intelligence sharing taking place right now. we have as good intelligence as anyone is going to have. >> leaks have coming out referring to intelligence reports that are at least a year old. you're saying between then and now, we're getting the best intelligence we ever had. >> we ever had, and the sharing of the intelligence with israel is the best it has ever been. >> i'm going to put all that together. best intelligence you have ever had, and it's telling you that it's okay right now? >> as we speak, erin, right now, we're okay. now, of course, iranian action can ultimately accelerate that moment.

but as we speak right now, and as the iranians are suffering from the beginning -- and by the way, this is just the beginning of crippling sanctions. yesterday was the first day in that actually sanctionable items for nonoil transactions. at the end of the months, the president is going to have to certify that there's enough oil in the marketplace for us to go through with the rest of the sanctions that takes place at the end of june. in the next several months, it's going to ratchet up to a point where the regime has to think, do i want to put our entire people through this, and potentially lose control? >> rudy giuliani said the president needed to talk specifically about the threat of bombing iran. using the word bomb, and if he did so, he wouldn't have to do it. mike rogers on the house intelligence committee said this to john king just a couple days ago. >> i think this would be better done with rolled up sanctions, tighten them up fast, don't wait until july.

continue to put pressure on them, and have a real option of military consequence for iran. they don't believe it, iran, i mean, and neither does israel. we have to change the equation if we're going to be, i think, have an impact on iran backing down from their nuclear weapon program. >> once you know where the red line is, what are the consequences? has the united states and the obama administration been clear enough about the consequences? does iran believe that military action will happen? >> the positions of military assets in the gulf, assets that did not exist to the extent they exist today, which gives the president all options to pursue, is enough of a message to the iranians that we are serious about stopping their march to nuclear weapons. >> senator, thank you very much. we appreciate it. obviously a crucial meeting this weekend. >> absolutely. ahead, a city devastating by the tornadoes. we're going to go to harrisburg, illinois, and talk to a grandmother who was picked up and thrown from her home in the

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just about 36 hours after violent tornadoes ripped through the midwest, residents of the storm-tossed region are left with the task of cleaning up. the death toll remains at 13 with harrisburg, illinois suffering the worst hit -- six died there. we spent the day today with a woman who miraculously survived a tornado that demolished her home. >> 30 seconds after i closed the door, it basically just blew the door off and sucked me out. i guess. i remember twirling around and being thrown down on that pile of stuff. and like i said, thank goodness i wasn't buried. i had -- i had a tray like you put christmas cookies on and stuff that was laying beside me. i was trying to put that over my head. i looked down and there's a big fifth of vodka right by my leg and i thought, oh, my gosh, of

all things. >> well, this is what remains of the house her parents built back in the 1980s. amazingly, she actually told us this is the third time she has cheated death. she survived a cerebral an arism and a bout of pneumonia. >> it's frightening because when you think about it, everything here can be replaced, but not my life or anyone else's lives. and you have to put that in perspective, i guess. >> janice was found on a pile of rubble caked in mud with bruises by her son-in-law. brad allen, and the two "outfront" tonight as they try to pick up the pieces. janice, i'm so glad to see you there with your dog because i

know the dog was missing for a while. right? >> oh, yes. yes, she was. they searched for her for probably eight or nine hours and finally found her in the house. a chair had tipped over and she was under the chair. and she, of course -- i don't know if she has a broken leg or if it's sprained or whatever but she has her little cast on. she's getting along really well. i was so worried because she's 11 years old. >> what a miracle that she was protected by the chair. your story is a miracle, too. i know, janice, obviously you're still -- you're still in shock. i mean you have to be in a lot of pain. do you remember how it happened? >> well, all i remember -- it was so quick, but i heard the tornado sirens and then i heard the sounded like a train, or like you're in a wind tunnel. i ran to the pantry, slammed the door and i mean i could not hold the door closed. it just took the door away from me. i think that's what hit my face and my hand and all that. and then i just started flying through the air. it was really, really

frightening and landed on top of the pile on the top of the house basically. i couldn't get up. i mean i wasn't really hurt but i was kind of in a little hole and it was pouring rain. and it was awful. then all of a sudden my cell phone rang. because it had flown out there with me in my pocket. and it was a friend of mine and she said, are you all right? i said, no. anyway, she called 911 and called my daughter and my daughter called my son-in-law and i guess he flew over there -- or went as fast as he could and he got there -- you may have gotten there before -- probably about the same time the firefighters got there. >> brett, what happened when you got that call? how did you find her? >> well, when i got there, there was already four firemen that were in the process of dragging her out at the time.

i couldn't tell where they were dragging her out of. it was just such a mess. wasn't really a hole. it just -- rubble. josh allen and john gunning were there and brent davis, police officer, was there. there was two guys i didn't know. i didn't know the other two. josh pretty much carried her out and they helped her to the ground over there. i had just pulled up and they were already getting her out. >> then they put me in the back of his pick-up truck. >> they carried her to the back of the truck and let her sit there a while. they couldn't get an ambulance over there so i took her to the hospital in the back of the truck. >> janice, are you feeling all right? obviously i can see on your face. you're injured. you're talking about your hand and your arm. but physically and mentally, are you in shock? >> well, i think i was definitely in shock then and i think now -- i don't know that it has sunken in quite -- i don't know how i'll feel in a

few days. but, yeah, it just basically injured me on the whole right side of my body for some reason. i've got scratches and scrapes and my foot, just -- but everything on the right side. so i don't know. it was awfully -- it was really, really frightening. and you don't realize the force of the wind that you hear people talk about, the suction and i mean, i'm telling you, it just takes you. there's -- it was awful. >> unbelievable story and you recount it in a way that sort of makes it come alive. brett, you obviously have the best mother-in-law, most amazing mother-in-law in the country. it sounds like from the storstory. >> good son-in-law! i have a good son-in-law. he was right there. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. >> well, 20-year-old dhahran ravi is facing 20 years in prison after his former rutgers university roommate, tyler clementi committed suicide in 2010.

five days into his trial prosecutors say they have laid out a case which shows he deliberately placed a webcam in their room so he and others could watch clementi having a romantic encounter with another man. days after tyler clement meant ee learned he was being watched, he killed himself by jumping off a bridge in new york. the case gained widespread attention to bring attention to bullying and hate crimes. but there are questions as to how responsible someone else is for tyler clementi taking his own life. there is the law and then there is what you you think as a person might be the right thing to do. legally can he be held responsible? >> he's technically not charged with homicide here. this is not a reckless homicide or manslaughter. believe me, if new jersey prosecutors could have charged him with that in the death of tyler clementi, tyler clementi

jumped off the george washington bridge, they would have. he's charged with bias intimidation and he's charged with invasion of privacy. now, would he have been charged with those things if there had been no suicide? i don't think he would have. i think tyler clementi's suicide led prosecutors to bring these charges. but technically, the jury is not going to consider the suicide. >> ravi could obviously get a prison term here, up to ten years, i believe. is that reasonable? >> well, there's a disagreement that people have about this. new jersey has the strictest law in the country on invasion of privacy. what the law says basically is, if you film somebody engaging in an act of intimacy and you stream it publicly, you let somebody else see it, you're guilty of a felony. a very serious crime. >> they have a law about that specific thing. >> that specific thing in new jersey. it is the strictest law in the country.

then they take it to another level. they say if you filmed that because of bias intimidation, because somebody is gay and you want to humiliate them, we're doubling the sentence to ten years. so as a result of that, ravi faces ten years in prison if this jury finds him guilty, as opposed to looking at this as some stupid adolescent college prank which is how it would have been treated in prior years. >> now what he did was awful, it was inhumane, it was thoughtless, it was homophobic. it was all of those things. i don't think anyone would say that it wasn't. >> well, the defense says it wasn't. >> they say that it wasn't. they say it was just a total harmless prank. >> oh, yeah. well, to me the thing that's been amazing about this case as i've watched it go in -- this was a shocking case when it first came down with the suicide, everybody said clearly homophobic. ravi now has said you know why he activated the webcam? there was going to be an older man in the room and he was afraid somebody was going to steal his stuff, steal his computer. i mean people put nanny cams in their own houses.

don't they? >> he's saying the camera happened to be there, it caught this, then yes -- >> he said i activated it because i didn't know who this strange guy was coming into the room. it had nothing to do with ravi being gay. i knew he was gay when i moved in with him. i'm not homophobic. that's the defense in this case. this is a hard fought battle. >> so what do you think the verdict will be? i know i'm asking you to totally speculate. >> i think it is going to be a not guilty verdict because this is a very, very difficult case, a very hard issues for the jury to grapple it. was it homophobia? was it adolescent stupidity? do you want to send a kid to prison for ten years for this? i think the jury will have a lot of problems with the case. >> it seems like he has learned something no one would ever have to learn, either. thank you. can outrage and targeted attacks against soldiers be stopped in afghanistan? still related to the burning of those korans. and a major development in the ship adrift at sea with more than 1,000 people onboard. ♪

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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about and focus on our reporting, do the work and find the "outfront five." first tonight, the so-called red line about iran. that's the line that obama administration officials and members of congress say that iran cannot cross. but, just what defines the red line will be a major topic of

discussion when israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu an president obama meet on monday. democratic senator robert menendez, a member of the foreign relations committee told me something very interesting about the quality of america's intelligence about iran right now. >> we've got the greatest intelligence that we have had on our own capabilities, as well as what we are sharing, the greatest cooperation that existed between the state of israel and the united states in both military and intelligence sharing is taking place right now. so we have as good of intelligence as ever. >> red cross support could start arriving in homs, syria in a few hours. government has agreed to allow humanitarian workers into the hard-hit baba amr neighborhood with medical and food supplies. an activist told us there are bodies in the streets and there hasn't been any food or water. at least 22 people were killed in homs today according to activists. three, crude oil prices spiked this afternoon. it was amazing, just an immediate pop on something that

came out of saudi arabia, an unconfirmed report about a pipeline explosion there. an economic expert on the region tells "outfront" it is unlikely there actually was an explosion, but just to tell you how important it would be, crude climbed above $110 a barrel in after-hours trading on that report. a disruption in the oil spry from saudi arabia is really the center of everything right now because when you look at iran, if there is an effect or some kind of cut-off of iranian supply because of tensions, the supplier that's going to be able to pick up the difference -- the only one, frankly, that really can, is saudi arabia. so disruption there, crucial for oil prices. initial jobless claims fell by 300,000 to 351,000 last week. claims had been drifting lower the past few weeks. economists say the positive trend is likely to continue. exception of job losses which continue at the government level. speaking of government, it's been 210 days since the united states lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? not enough? new data shows personal income and consumer spending rose in january but not as quickly as economists were hoping.

two nato soldiers in southern afghanistan were shot dead today by two gunmen, one in an afghan national army uniform. this is the third shooting at a base or government building since news emerged that american troops mistakenly burned korans and other religious materials last week. the incident has sparked outrage and protests across the country leaving at least 41 dead, hundreds more injured. president barack obama has apologized, but does the united states need to do anything else? journalist and author sebastian junger is no stranger to afghanistan. his latest book "war" is about the time he spent with u.s. troops there and he comes out front tonight. sebastian, good to see you. president obama's apologized, so has the commander general allen in afghanistan and he told abc news that that apology so far is

working. here he is. >> the reason that it was important is the same reason that the commander on the ground, general allen, apologized, and that is to save lives and to make sure our troops who are there right now are not placed in further danger >> it is hard to tell. do you think it has improved it with that apology? >> it calmed things down. we're not out of the woods yet. >> do you think it calmed things down? >> well, every child is taught that if you offend someone who you care about, you apologize. i think that's intuitively clear to everyone. there's a lot of resentment in afghanistan about the u.s. presence there. it wasn't that way ten years ago. i was there, the afghans were so grateful. but a lot of mistakes have happened, and the people who really want to attack troops there, no, it's not going to do anything. karzai needs to do more to make it clear to his people that this is not the way forward for his country. i'm not sure he's done that yet. >> a lot of this has been afghans that are either posing in official uniform or afghans that wear uniforms. how troubling of a trend is that given that so much of what would make any transition here

effective from the united states back to afghanistan would be people in uniform working together? >> well, it's incredibly troubling. it is hard to guard against and the taliban are in a perfect position now. they don't have to infiltrate the national police or the army in order to attack u.s. forces because there are individuals in those forces who are just upset and willing to attack on their own unilaterally. so it is a terrible position for us to be in at the moment. >> president karzai is a big question mark in all this. you say he needs to do more. he's actually called for nato to put the troops who did this on trial. don't believe we have a formal answer yet from the united states. what do you think about that? they say that this was completely accidental and we've talked about how the books are in arabic, they would not maybe even have known. but what would the impact of such a thing be, putting them on trial? >> you know, karzai's playing this double game. he needs nato there or he's dead. he's political dead, he's physically dead. he needs nato. >> physically dead. seriously. >> he won't survive that transition. but on the other hand to have

political credibility in afghanistan he has to denounce nato at every turn. that's what he's doing right now. my guess is he doesn't really believe a trial will lead anywhere but he wants to be seen as saying that. so it depends on the military laws. i don't know how they would apply to that situation, if the soldiers didn't know what they were burning. they probably didn't. then they're innocent. so it is a show trial. >> you spent an incredible amount of time in afghanistan. over various years. all the way through this process. is hamid karzai part of the problem? is he the wrong guy for the u.s. to be backing? i mean even taking aside the incredible corruption, which he clearly seems to be a part of? >> he is part of the problem. he started out as a very inspiring person. i met him in 2000 before 9/11. he was really inspiring. but he has allowed a really criminal cartel to take over the government, and we are also part of the problem in that we have not used our tremendous leverage to force him towards good behavior. we could do it. the bush administration didn't do it. obama's not doing it.

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we do this at the same time every night, our outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. in the seychelles, a disabled italian cruise ship was towed safely to port victoria today. passengers spent several agonizing days at sea, no power or running water for days on a cruise ship because a fire broke out in the ship's engine room. cnn's dan rivers is there and dan met passengers as they got off the ship. he told me a little bit ago how they're doing. >> reporter: erin, the people i spoke to seemed exhausted. they seemed sunburned. but above all, they were relieved. they had spent three days adrift on the high seas after that engine fire saw black smoke billowing through the ship, terrifying many of the passengers that were all too aware that it is only a month and a half after the costa concordia disaster in italy. the costa allegra is alongside, the passengers are now installed

in hotels, some flying home. many said to me that they would not want to be getting back on a ship any time soon. they survived on salami sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and dinner. one woman said to me she never wants to see another salami sandwich as long as she lives. >> a sentiment i think everyone could understand. the cruise ship industry under investigation by congress as well. >> charges for the 17-year-old accused of killing three students and injuring two others in chardon, ohio. t.j. lane is facing three counts of aggravated murder, two counts of attempted aggravated murder, and one count of felonious assault. this comes with hundreds of students, their parents, and staff returning to chardon high school for grief counseling. classes officially start again tomorrow. the assistant football koch who is held as a hero for chasing lane out of the school, spoke earlier for the first time. and in hero fashion, he was humble. >> i don't know why this happened.

i only wish i could have done more. not a hero. just a football coach and study hall teacher. the law enforcement, first responders, that came to our aid that day, they are the heroes. >> ted rowlands is outside of chardon high school tonight. the charges were filed in juvenile court. a center of the debate this week has been whether at 17 he should be tried as a juvenile or as an adult given the heinous nature of the crimes he committed. could it change or will he be tried as a minor? >> he will be tried azine adult, erin. it will be shocking if he's not charged as an adult. the prosecutors said they'll ask the judge given his age and the seriousness of the crime. i would be shocked if he was trialed as a juvenile. >> so just a matter of time.

it was shocking to see that. what was the process like today? i know you were at the school. you saw people coming, students, parents, teempers, for the grief counseling. what did you see and what did people say when you spoke to them? >> well, it was emotional just to watch parents holding hands with their children, teenagers walking into the school. they went into the cafeteria. they had groups there, psychologists there, grief counselors there to help for both parents and students. we talked to people afterwards, and they it was overwhelming to be back in the school, in the cafeteria where the horror took place on monday. they'll all be back without their parents on monday. >> we heard moving comments from the assistant football coach saying i wasn't a hero. so many of them have credited him with chasing lane out of the school. people say there is a second hero. tell me about that person.

>> nick walzak still can't feel his legs. it's a long process for him, but his mother today spoke out and said there was a teacher by the name of joe richie, he was a teacher that while the gunfire was going on, came out and pulled nick into the classroom and started to give him medical attention right away, and she believes that saved her son's life. she made a point of thanking him today. he's the second hero in all of this if you will. >> thanks very much. students go back to school tomorrow. >> well, up next, what happens when a bank decides to start trying to charge for things that were once free. a bank that tried and failed to do this two months ago. that means "outfront" is on your tail. and journalist anthony shadid lost his life doing what he loved. his wife joins us tonight. l 1%, there's big news.

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the fractured world of post saddam iraq, the civil war in libya, egypt in the wake of revolution. anthony shadid of the "new york times" risked his life to find human stories amidst all that war and devastation. two weeks ago today, shadid died

of an asthma attack in syria, unable to get medical care. he was covering the violent conflict that has killed more than 7500 people in that country. shadid was only 43 years old. he left behind a wife and a baby. his wife said he has just finished his masterpiece about rebuilding his ancestral home in lebanon. he was supposed to be on it, but she was taking his place. she spoke to me earlier tonight. >> i am trying to get my head around it. it's just so unreal, so unbelievable. it's -- you know, it's an unfinished life. and he left too soon. and just part of me feels like when someone had so much more to give and to do and had so many more plans, at least in the near future, they should not go. i'll never understand. >> he writes about being in libya, and he was in libya in the civil war.

i remember reading the "new york times" covering his coverage of libya. he talked about lying, his face pressed to the ground, and a soldier saying shoot him, and he didn't get shot. he writes about being in jail, said we were blindfolded, bound with plastic handcuffs, i panicked at the restraints dug into my wrists and numbed my swollen hands. it had to be hard for you to hear that, to see that, but when he came home, what did you think. >> it was heart breaking. we picked him up at the airport and drove there, because i knew that if he was going to be better and try to move on and forget about what happened as hard as it is to forget, it would be in the house that he wrote about. but it was extremely painful, you know, and you almost don't want to touch them or like talk to them, talk to that person who has been through something like

this, and want to give them all the time they need. so it was very, very painful, but i think it helped him a lot being there right after it happened. just kind of coming to terms with it and accept what happened. >> he writes about going there with you and your son and saying there's nowhere else in the world i could go in that moment other than the ancestral home. before he died, he spoke about the home and building the home. i wanted to play a little clip of something he put together recently. >> the biggest thing i have now having finished it, the moment you walk into the house after you have been gone for a while, and it feels lonely. there's a sense of it being mment. it's repaired and renovated and restored, but how do you fight that loneliness that has been the house's identity for so long?

>> are you going to stay there? >> it's my home, too, and anthony so many times asked me when we were sitting in the garden or in the house, that if he dies, he wants to be -- or when he dies, he wants his body to be cremated and he wants me to spread his ashes in the garden. i did this, and i put in between the two olive trees he loved so much and he takes about in the book. and so he's there, and there's no other place for me to be other than with him there. it's our home. >> you're a journalist, too, in your own right, and i was telling you i read some of your work. you had that passion for the middle east like he did. you wrote about assad and syria. are you going to keep doing that? >> it's a hard question. i don't know. i haven't thought about it. enough yet.

i'm still trying to understand what happened. and it's going to take a lot of time. but i don't know. can feel like i'm a little mad at journalism. >> because of the place it made him go even though he loved it? >> even though he loved it, yeah. it would be hard, you know, to do this thing that we did together and we loved doing together so much, it would be hard to do it alone. >> and so you have your son now. >> which is a beautiful thing. >> it is. >> that you have that, and the one thing when i thought -- you know, obviously, i followed his work, and admired him as a journalist, then i found out about you. and i was thinking how lucky at least that you have that one thing. >> that's true. and i think probably my son is